1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Max Schurz are back on FT Max. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Great to see you. How's the year going, man, We 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: haven't caught up with you in a minute. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me back on. Yeah, you're going 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: going great. 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I had a hiccup there for a while, 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 3: but back on track and we're playing. 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Some good baseball here and some meaningful baseball that summer. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Did you see this coming? So you signed with the 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Blue Jays in the off season, right, And I'm sure 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: you see some of the names on paper, but they 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: had been disappointing in the prior couple years. I'm sure 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: you evaluate teams obviously when you're making a decision on 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: your free agency. Did you see this kind of breakout 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: for the team? 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't look at it like that. You know. 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: Chris Bass is one of my good buddies. Played with 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: them in New York and he was there. I just 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: had conversations. I keep it up with them all the time. 20 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: We were just having conversations kind of throughout the whole 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: free agent process and just kind of what the team 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: looked like. 23 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: And then I think they signed Santander and Santander and. 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: Then you know, I had a conversation with the upper 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: brass of the Blue Jays, and they said, no, we're 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: all in for twenty twenty five. We're looking to make 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: moves and if we're good, we're gonna go out to 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: trade deadline as well. So when I heard that, that 29 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: gave me a lot of confidence that this team can 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: turn around. They had they identify their mistakes and one 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: to have a really good twenty twenty five and so 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: it's been great to be a part of it. 33 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 4: Max. 34 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: Can you describe what it's like playing for the Blue Jays. 35 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 5: We haven't talked to you, I don't think maybe since 36 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: spring training, but everyone I know that's ever played for 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 5: Toronto says it's awesome up there, and everyone but everyone 38 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 5: that doesn't play for him says, oh. 39 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: It's customs and I got to do this and do that. 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 5: But every guy I know that's ever gone up there, 41 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 5: so the organizations unbelievable the way they treat you. 42 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: So can you can you expound on that? Spand on that? 43 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of fun this summer. Man, 44 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: it's been great playing for the Blue Jays. They treat 45 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: the families amazingly well, like my girls, they've had so 46 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: much fun. We've been staying downtown and so it's made 47 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: it really easy to get the kids to the park 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: to get some. 49 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: Extra hours around dad. So that's been great. Uh. 50 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 3: And you know, every team's kind of got crap you 51 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: gotta gotta deal with. I mean, it doesn't matter what 52 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: team you're with. I mean, if you play in LA 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: or New York and DC, you're sitting in traffic. I mean, 54 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: you know, that's one of the life things that you 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: gotta do with. With Toronto, yeah, you gotta do with 56 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: some border stuff. You know, you gotta be on the plane, 57 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: I guess, and have the card game go on for 58 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: a little bit longer than usual, and you know, you 59 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: gotta deal with some border stuff and get the bags 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: off the kearrousel sometimes. 61 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: So you know. 62 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: But outside of that, being in Blue Jay, it's been 63 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: actually so much fun. Loved it, loved every mento of it. 64 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 6: When they said the some of the things that they 65 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 6: wanted to change, or they they said, oh, this is 66 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 6: what we need to change for this year. Did they 67 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,559 Speaker 6: change those things with the Santander signing? But then Santander 68 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 6: hasn't hasn't even played much this year, so it's like 69 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 6: other guys have stepped up, right. 70 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: I mean they looked at themselves was internally too, where 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: they wanted to make changes to hitting coaches, what they 72 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: want to do different with the pitching, and obviously how 73 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: they wanted to you know, they made a trade for 74 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: you know him, and as they didn't like their infield 75 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: defense and they go out there and to get you know, 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: one of the best gold gloves second basement as there 77 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: is in the game. 78 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: And so it's moves like that. 79 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Where they looked internally at themselves of how they wanted 80 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: to operate differently, uh, you know, and the addition of 81 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: signing guys, uh, you know was the kind of change 82 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: that they looked. So tough to really tell because I 83 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: wasn't here last year, uh to really know all the 84 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: ins and outs, but uh, you know, just from the 85 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: scuttle butt, that's kind of what's been going on. 86 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: Well, you guys are doing great so far, so you're 87 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: you're in a good spot. But I got to ask this, 88 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: how's the back? 89 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: Right then? Your back? Was your back that tightened up 90 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: on your last start? 91 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, last start. 92 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: It's actually kind of minor, like the upper scap, uh, 93 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: you know, before the game I woke up normal, kind 94 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: of looking down at the sky reports. 95 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: And you know, I was looking at them. 96 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: I looked up all of a sudden, I could feel 97 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: like my upper scap was tight, like, oh, that's godd 98 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: like whatever, you know, I don't know, I'm forty one. 99 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: I got to do a crap now, So I don't know. 100 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: I heat up thinking it was gonna go away. But 101 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: then kind of in the second end, I kind of felt, 102 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: you know, kind of get a little bit tighter again 103 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: on me. And so that's when I kind of learned 104 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: the team, Hey, I got something here, and you could 105 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: see it was compromising my stuff, and I was gonna 106 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: you know, I was good. 107 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: It was dull. 108 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't sharp something I thought I could pitch through, 109 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: but it was affecting my stuff, and you had to 110 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: come out of the game early because of that. 111 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 6: One of the things that we heard from the Blue Jays, 112 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 6: or from about the Blue Jays. I think Justin Turner 113 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 6: was even talking about it when we had them on 114 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 6: talking about the Jays. Their medical stuff is like next level, 115 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 6: state of the art. Well, I know two of your trainers, 116 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: jose minstro and vood and Chung are two of the 117 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 6: biggest slouches I've ever seen in my life, and they're 118 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 6: two of my best friends in the training world. But 119 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 6: do they really have because you've been around, do they 120 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: have a leg up medically on other teams? 121 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would characterize it like that. 122 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: When they came through and they did all the renovations 123 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: to the Rogers Center, I mean, this home clubhouse is 124 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: as pristine. It's the nicest home clubhouse probably in the game. 125 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the tech I was just in Texas, Texas 126 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: might be the biggest. I mean it's awesome. Texas is 127 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: big and it's awesome, but the details here in Toronto 128 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: are great. So you know, they kind of got all 129 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: the machines and everything you need to you know, go 130 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: about your day. I mean there's definitely times I'm using 131 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: some of those shock wave stuff where I'm shocking myself 132 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: to get everything going. 133 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: But no, it's very good, very good all the way around. 134 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: Max. 135 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: How surprised are you? I mean early in the year, 136 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 5: the Blue Jays weren't great, but now all of a 137 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: sudden they took off. It was like they three last 138 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: three months they've just taken off. 139 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 4: Is it offense? Is it defense, is it pitching? Everything 140 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: just came together. 141 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: What changed because early in the year was kind of like, ah, 142 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 5: where are the Blue Jays gonna go? 143 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: And then who it was like a rocket ship. 144 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're just getting off. You know, I 145 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: want to say on a slow start. 146 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 3: We just you know, we with was saying in April 147 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: that you know, you can't win in the division in April, 148 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: but you can lose it. 149 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Well, we didn't lose it in April. 150 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: You know, we were playing kind of five hundred ball 151 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: and we're you know, kind of go off to this 152 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: and I don't want to say a slow start, but 153 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't get off to the best start, uh, 154 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: And then we just kind of clicked as a team. 155 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: We start identifying the roles that everybody wanted to be in. 156 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't pitching, but I was watching this 157 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: go down and watching how everything was transpiring and how 158 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: the offense started clicking. Defense is playing great, uh, you know, 159 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: even the outfield defense. I mean, but now I've seen 160 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: Varsha out in center. Man, my gosh, I knew he 161 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: was good. I didn't know it was just good. I mean, 162 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: he's making highlight reel catches. All the singles, you know, 163 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: every every seems like every every day he's going back 164 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: and almost robbing a home run. And so you combine 165 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: that with all the little things that was going on, uh, 166 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: and then go up and down the lineup. 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I mean, the cameras that they have, 212 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: the HD stuff that you know, they can see on 213 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: you, you know, and like you said, the coaches they're getting it. 214 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: You know that that's kind of the great area for me. 215 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: When the coaches get involved. I don't mind when some players, 216 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: you know, if you're on the field, your base run, 217 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: you can get something that. 218 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's part of the game. 219 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: Uh, you start getting the coaches involved, that's a great 220 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: area for me, you know. You know, like you said, 221 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: in the future, do we want to real change to 222 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: help kind of curtail this? Uh yeah, I guess I 223 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: think that's a conversation for a different day because I 224 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: mean does nothing to you know, talk about it now 225 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: or complain about it now. But in the future, yeah, 226 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: that could be something to talk about because I mean 227 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: it's just next level now and multiple teams. 228 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: I've been on it. You know what guys can look 229 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: at and decipher on you. It's crazy. 230 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 5: Well, they're not banging trash cans, right. I just want 231 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 5: to make sure that no one's banging trash, everything's coming 232 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: up and up. Okay, good, good answer. I figured I 233 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: figured that. Did you see recently that all of our 234 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: friend Rob Manfred came out and was talking about realignment? 235 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 4: Are you for realignment? 236 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 5: Would you like to see some people say eight divisions 237 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 5: of four? And then we have some people that say 238 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 5: four divisions of eight? Are you four realignment? Because I 239 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 5: think it would be great in certain ways, but then 240 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: I think there's other ways where it would hurt baseball. 241 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, very intriguing. I mean this also revolves around. 242 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: Expansions, so we got to see what two cities would 243 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: come into this. But that's definitely intriguing. If you know, 244 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: when you add two more teams into the league, get 245 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: the thirty two Okay, you know you look at the NFL, 246 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: they're divided in you know, eight divisions, four teams each. Yeah, 247 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: I'm open to it. I think it could be good 248 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: for the game. Something you definitely got to think about. 249 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: And obviously we're multiple years away from them, but I'm 250 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: intrigued by it. You know, I wanted to hear what 251 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: ideas are kind of read some things about it. You know, 252 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: there's kind of pros and cons who how you would 253 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: divide this up, but definitely open to the idea of it. 254 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 6: Has Rob made the clubhouse tour stop in Toronto yet 255 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 6: or when you guys were on the road. 256 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: No, we haven't seen him yet. I'm not holding my breath. 257 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: You don't they you don't think he's gonna come in there. 258 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 6: But do you do you feel like because obviously, you know, 259 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 6: there's a lot of the word you used was scuttle 260 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 6: butt about the Phillies, you know, and how they reacted 261 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 6: to him. Do you feel like they reacted in a 262 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 6: in a fair way when someone comes into their clubhouse 263 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 6: and talks about stuff that maybe it isn't necessarily how 264 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 6: they want to react, And how would you have reacted. 265 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: I can't really comment exactly on the Philly situation. All 266 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: I know is when you start dealing with the finances 267 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: of the game, you're dealing with people's livelihoods, You're dealing 268 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: with people how people are getting paid within the game, 269 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: and you're really in some sensitive situations. Uh, you know, 270 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: I did my work with a union. I definitely had 271 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: to have that in the back. 272 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: Of my mind. 273 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: I have people's you know, libyhoods, I mean, I mean 274 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: people's dreams, of playing the major leagues and how we 275 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: compensate people because of that in the back of my mind. 276 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: So I know that these are very contentiously, she's these 277 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: are very hot and things can get sideways really fast 278 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: because you're really talking. 279 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: About how the game can work. 280 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: So you know, without really speculating how things you know 281 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: got portrayed in the media. I wasn't there, don't know, 282 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: but I definitely know things like that can get like that. 283 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Max. 284 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: Sorry, you got me all choked up here. You just 285 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: mentioned you were you were on the union and you 286 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 5: were in the union, you were on the what what 287 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: I forget what the head executive executive board. Yeah, we 288 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: recently had a thing kind of come out and it 289 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: was in the Athletic about players that are now working 290 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 5: for Rob and they follow Rob into the clubhouse. Is 291 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 5: that your next move as a former executive board meeting? 292 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 5: When you retire, you're gonna follow Rob around for these 293 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: clubhouse tours so you can go up to the players 294 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: and say, Man, Rob is great, isn't he? 295 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 296 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: I probably won't be doing that. Probably probably doing that 297 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: somewhere else. I'm probably see I've retired from the unions off. 298 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: I don't I was too many phone calls. I got, 299 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: I got four kids, now I got I'm a busy dad. 300 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: I got these kids running around. I don't have time 301 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: to be sitting on phone calls, you know, keeping everybody 302 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: up to date. 303 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 304 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: And so you know that's always been my message to 305 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: the next you know subcommittee guys is look, you know, 306 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: I know you want to do a lot of great things, 307 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: but just knowing you're gonna be sitting on a lot 308 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: of phone calls because you've got to talk to everybody 309 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: across the league and you know kind of all your 310 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: kind of personal contacts, all your friends across the game. 311 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: Uh. 312 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: And then uh, you know, you got to. 313 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: Be talking to multiple teams and even people on your team. 314 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of work, a lot of phone 315 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: calls of trying to keep everybody on the same page. 316 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 317 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: And you know, Glad I did it. Glad I tried to, 318 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: uh do the best thing for the game always. You know, 319 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: I always loved that I did that. You know, it's 320 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: a lot of work, but Glad I did it, and 321 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: hopefully you make the game better. 322 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 6: What would you give advice? You would give advice for 323 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 6: people that are you know, going on to the executive subcommittee. 324 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 6: But what about young guys. What about young guys coming 325 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 6: into the game and how to engage in the Union. 326 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 6: Because young dudes are like, I want to go play 327 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: the game, I want to go out after the game, 328 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 6: I'm going to play the next game. I want to 329 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 6: stay in the big leagues. What would the advice be 330 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 6: that you would have for them? As a guy that's 331 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 6: now all right, I'm good like I don't I don't 332 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 6: need to spend more time on union stuff. 333 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, just talk to veterans. The veterans have been through 334 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: every level. 335 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: You know, when the young guys, when you're in the 336 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: you know, you kind of the pre arm and you're 337 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: making the minimum. Well, every veteran has been there. Every 338 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: veteran's put into three years. Every veteran's gone through, you know, 339 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: three years of art. They've seen free agency and especially 340 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: when you get you know, guys with ten plus years, 341 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: they've seen the ups and downs of free agency. They 342 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: see how different decisions get made on teammates. They had 343 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: a teammate go through this, and they have the experience 344 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: of seeing how certain things and within the CBA affect 345 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: how decisions get made for players' careers. So really for 346 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: young guys, just stay connected to the old guys can 347 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: talk about that type of stuff. You know, when you're 348 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: you know, sitting you know, on the couches and you 349 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: know after BP or something, that conversation comes up up. 350 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: Young guys need to be a part of that because 351 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: they helped control where does where the boat goes, so 352 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: to say, to where everybody in the game goes. 353 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: So everybody's on the same page. 354 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: All right, Well, for a couple of things. 355 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 5: First of all, I want to make you clear, we're independent, 356 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: so we're not owned by the union or no, it's 357 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 5: not for you. I know you know that, but I'm 358 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: saying for other people out there, we're not owned by 359 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: the players and we're not owned by the commission, so 360 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: we're independent. We just like well you mentioned though, the players, 361 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: the young players need to sit down and listen to veterans. 362 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: I remember as a young player you were like, I 363 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: just want to stay out of it and let those 364 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: guys handle it. How does the union make it better 365 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: on these young players, because again, you know when you 366 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: were young and you had the veteran guys at times 367 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: have changed a lot, but it was just sitting your locker, 368 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: don't talk, We'll let you know what you're supposed to 369 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: do right now. Now, younger guys have a bigger voice 370 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: in this game, So how does the Union communicate with 371 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: them better what they're trying to get across. 372 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: I think there's this better team communication about these issues 373 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: when it gets into kind of you know, when the 374 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: pressure really gets cooked up around these issues, that you 375 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: can get information out to the whole team very quickly. 376 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: I think teams are identifying. I mean now with phones 377 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: and texting, I mean, you can get in touch with 378 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: anybody across the league within five minutes. And so it's 379 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: really stayed in due diligence of kind of the union 380 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: rep on the team of keeping that kind of communication 381 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: in line, hey, throughout the team. So it's kind of 382 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: a team effort of who your leader is and then 383 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: how well everybody is engaged of understanding what the issues 384 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: are at hand. So yeah, I mean it's a difficult task, 385 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: but it's nothing that's not insurmountable. 386 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 6: Max, everybody had somebody just I know it's totally off 387 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 6: topic here, but you talked about being a rookie and 388 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 6: vets who is your guy that as a rookie just 389 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 6: absolutely wore you out, but could have also been somebody 390 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: that really helped you, because I feel like everybody has somebody. 391 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 6: But now as a vet you look back at you're like, 392 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 6: all right, I guess that kind of that kind of 393 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 6: worked out for me. 394 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 395 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: The best thing I can say about that Alex grows 396 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: in Detroit was Gerald Laird uh Man. He would just 397 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: get on you for absolutely anything, but he made the 398 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: best way, uh and the best way possible and uhleed you. 399 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: You know, you developed that relationship. 400 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: So then when it needed to be when he you know, 401 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: I mean he got stacks to the times. But like 402 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: this is how you need a pitch. You needed when 403 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: I call fastball away, fill the fastball away, and you 404 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: get very you know, animated about it, and you know, 405 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: really have great conversations about it, you know, at all 406 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: all different phases of it. So you know, if you 407 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: when you say that, you know it's a veteran that 408 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: was really harden me when I was young. 409 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: Say him. 410 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: Max, You've played with some of the best guys in 411 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: the history of baseball. 412 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: Maggie Price Soto. 413 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: I mean, you've you've had kind of a who's who 414 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: of of dudes on that you played with hit or 415 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: Wise right, and now you have Vlad. What is something 416 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 5: that people don't know about Vlad or comparison to some 417 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: of those guys that you played with throughout your career 418 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 5: that stands out and you can say Jay's fans, this 419 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: is why he's worth the contract that he signed. 420 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: You know, he's actually very athletic. He kind of gives 421 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: you some de tackle vibes. 422 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: He really like you watch him get down the line, 423 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, like he's running that mind that fast, 424 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: or he goes first to third or second at home. 425 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: He's actually you know, he's way faster than you would 426 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: typically think of him. And I think he's just he's 427 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: coming into his own I mean, as good as he is, 428 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: you know, there's still so much more on tap of 429 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: potential of what I see from him. You know, I 430 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: don't like throwing this comparison around because I hold him 431 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: so high, like you said, Miguil Cabrera, but he has 432 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: that type of talent. 433 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: He can hit the ball as hard as Mega Cabrera. 434 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: It's but maybe had the IQ. 435 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: And then you know the Polish when I play with him, 436 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: you know, I played him in the early thirties, so 437 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: a little bit different. 438 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: You know, Vlad's still got some time develop here. 439 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: But you know, if he puts his nose down into 440 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: the dirt and figures out how to you know, really 441 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: study the way he hits and how he doesn't, and 442 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: you takes stuff like that and puts it into his game, Uh, 443 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: he can be, you know, in an absolute offensive force. 444 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: I've definitely seen it. 445 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 6: Can you give us an insight into the bullpen pep 446 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 6: talk that you. 447 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: Gave bullpen pep talk? No? No, crats No, what was 448 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: that one? I don't know. 449 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: I think you're we're talking about Laddie. Laddie gave a 450 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: pep talk. 451 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 4: Oh that's my bazil, I was. 452 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what, it makes sense that all the time, 453 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: because we all have each other's backs, we all believe 454 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: in each other. 455 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: I think that's one strait that we have here is 456 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: that we think we have the right team, the right personalities, 457 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: the right guys. Everybody's in the right roles. Somebody fails, 458 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: somebody else is gonna do their job better, it doesn't matter. 459 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 3: We've seen this happen to us all throughout the season, 460 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: where hey, one bat, what happens there's somebody doesn't make 461 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: a play that somebody gives up a homer who knows. Uh, 462 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: No one's turning the back, no one's everybody's trying to 463 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: pick each other up. And so I think Glad he's 464 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: learning himself as a as kind of a leader, you know, 465 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: being twenty six years old still in the game, it's 466 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: it's tough to be kind of that vocal leader. And 467 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: he's finding his voice, he's finding his way to do it, 468 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: and he's showing support when guys need it the most. 469 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 2: And so, you know, you know, having him say that, 470 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: you know, that's just the kind of the who we 471 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: are kind of as a Blue Jays right now. All right. 472 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 5: I got to ask and she said, you're living in 473 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: the city. Have you met Drake yet? I mean, he's 474 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: the king of the six right, has Drake been to 475 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 5: a game? And as he said, what's up, Max. 476 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: No, we haven't seen Drake. Let's see, I'm trying to 477 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: think of any slurries that we've seen come by. You 478 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: got me on the spot drawing a blank. The cool 479 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: thing we did do is we did go to the 480 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: game seven Eastern Conference when the Leafs played the Florida Panthers. 481 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: That was a pretty was a really cool environment. I mean, 482 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: I know there's a hockey town in Toronto and man, 483 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: there was that stadium was going that we went to it. 484 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: It was nuts. 485 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: So it kind of gives you a taste of what 486 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: it could be for us, and so that gives us 487 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: the motivation. Man, if we can get there to the playoffs, 488 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: this is this is this is the Rogers Center will 489 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: be rocking. 490 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: I know that. 491 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 5: But by the way, I know you're rooting for the 492 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 5: Panthers because I know you live in Florida, so you 493 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 5: better have been rooting for the Panthers, not the Leafs. 494 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still kind of you had secret you had 495 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: to kind of do. 496 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: You had to do it in secret. 497 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: I know Washington Capitals. I still gotta. I still got 498 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: a piece of me that loves the Washington Capitals. So 499 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: uh okay, you know when they came in, they gave 500 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: me that trophy and I got the oldest Stanley cup 501 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: over my head like that. 502 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: Uh you know, I still remember that pretty well. So 503 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: that's can still going. Uh old, guys are still getting 504 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 3: it done. 505 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: All right. 506 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: So when you you recently faced Kershaw, did you guys 507 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: like have to get wheelchairs, you know, to get out 508 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 5: there because everyone's talking about all the time, right, because 509 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 5: you guys remember the famous game where you both started, 510 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: like forever ago in Dodger Stadium when it was supposed 511 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 5: to be Maddox and Randy instead it was these two puffs, 512 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: sures Are and Kershaw. Who the hell are these two guys? 513 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: And now twenty like twenty years later, you guys got 514 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: to do it again. So were you guys leaving notes 515 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 5: for each. 516 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 4: Other on the mound. 517 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 5: I know you guys exchanged jerseys, which was really cool, 518 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 5: but I mean that had to be one of the 519 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 5: most the best, one of the best games you ever 520 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: got to pitch in, right. 521 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: It was just really cool. And I knew that Dodger 522 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: start was coming up. It was like two starts ahead. 523 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm gonna get get the Dodgers. 524 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, who are I gotta get up? 525 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: I was like, please let it be Kershaw. This is 526 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: gonna be too much fun. And sure enough it lined 527 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: up just right where he was starting to and you know, 528 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: just what a moment. You know, we've been competing at 529 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: each other all these years, you know, from the same 530 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: draft class. You name it and still the eighteen years 531 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: in and we're still going at it. And you know, 532 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: we both went out there and compete hard against each 533 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: other just like we always have. And even though he 534 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: got the better end of it, you know, sit my 535 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: hat to them. But that was a pretty cool moment. 536 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: I didn't get a jersey from when I was in LA, 537 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: but I've always wanted to curse off jersey, so best 538 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: to get it in that way. 539 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 4: All right? Who should have been picked first? You were Kershaw? 540 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 4: You got it. 541 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: That's where you decide. 542 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to win every time. I don't care 543 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: who's against me. I'm trying to beat anybody who's who's 544 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: staying in that box. 545 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 6: But I'm saying who should if you go back to 546 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 6: the draft, because you always do these, like you know, 547 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 6: redo the trade or redo the draft, compare you have 548 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 6: to compare your career to Kershall's career. 549 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: Who should have been picked first? 550 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, that's weird. You know, it's easier to 551 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: do it when it's somebody else. If you go to them, 552 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: spot something else. Yeah, you can give it a lot. 553 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: It's you verse ten. 554 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's weird talking to yourself like that. 555 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, because we were on the mound, we 556 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: compete against each other. It's weird thinking into those terms, 557 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: but that's where that's where you to decide, like you're 558 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: out of the game. 559 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: Now you can look at it. Now you. 560 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: I got it. 561 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 5: You both are going into the Hall of Famous Dodgers. 562 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 5: So that's it. That's all the matters. You guys are 563 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 5: both going to the Hall of Famous Dodgers. 564 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he will be Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, Mac, that 565 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, that was fun, fun matchup to watch. 566 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: Great catching up with you man. Yeah, it's been a 567 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: minute so uh, we enjoyed it. Thanks for the time. 568 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the way. Man, we're following 569 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: this closely, all right. 570 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thanks money, Thank you.