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Speaker 1: I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the

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Speaker 1: Fred Show. Hey vilec, good morning, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: How are you all right?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: We're doing okay? What's going on with this guy? Luke?

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Speaker 1: Tell us how you met? About any dates that you've

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Speaker 1: been on, and then where things are now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I met him on an app and things were

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Speaker 3: going really well. We were talking for like two weeks,

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Speaker 3: like non stop, you know, day in, day out, good

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Speaker 3: morning to night, all that, and it was really exciting.

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Speaker 3: And so then we met up and it went really

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Speaker 3: well and I really liked him, and then nothing. I

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Speaker 3: never heard from him again, and I have no idea

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Speaker 3: what happened.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so the texting, the pen pal thing is

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Speaker 1: weird because people get into that. I know, I've done

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Speaker 1: it on a dating apps. You get into kind of

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Speaker 1: the pal mode, and then you never really actually meet

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Speaker 1: or it takes a long time. It's like are we

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Speaker 1: I guess there's two schools of thought. You either try

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Speaker 1: and get to know somebody or you're like, let's get

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Speaker 1: to it right now. Otherwise you get lost in the shuffle.

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Speaker 1: So you guys chat it for a little while, and

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Speaker 1: it got it got kind of flirty and intimated in

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Speaker 4: Know, good morning and good night and all of that.

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Speaker 1: And then you finally go on this date that you

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Speaker 1: thought was great, but you've reached out to him. Since then,

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Speaker 1: all of that has stopped.

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Speaker 4: I take it. No more good morning, no more any

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Speaker 4: of that.

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Speaker 3: It's completely like radio silence, totally ghosted, which has never

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Speaker 3: happened to me before. And you see why people get

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Speaker 3: so mad about it, because it's like, I'm just left wondering.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you talk to someone and like you

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Speaker 3: start sharing about yourself and opening up, and then it's

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Speaker 3: just like okay.

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Speaker 1: Cool, like all this buildings bye, and then this person

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Speaker 1: disappears after you meet You're like, what the hell what happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really don't know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we call him right now. Good luck, Violet. Hi

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Speaker 4: is this Luke?

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Speaker 1: Yep? This is Luke. Hey Luke, good morning. My name

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Speaker 1: is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning

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Speaker 1: radio Show. The whole crew is here, and I do

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Speaker 1: have to tell you that we are on the radio

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Speaker 1: right now and I would need your permission to continue

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Speaker 1: with the call.

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Speaker 4: Can we chat for just a second on the air. Okay, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 4: thank you very much for calling on.

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Speaker 1: Behalf of a woman who says she met you on

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Speaker 1: the apps and you guys recently went out. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Violet. Do you remember chatting with and meeting Violet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, So what's the laugh about? Because I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you what we know.

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Speaker 1: She reached out to us and said that she she

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Speaker 1: met you on the apps and that you guys would

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Speaker 1: chatted for a while and the chemistry was kind of building,

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Speaker 1: and then you guys went out recently, and then since

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Speaker 1: then it's been radio silence. You haven't responded, you haven't

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Speaker 1: reached out, and then there's kind of like this giggle

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Speaker 1: when I ask about it, or laugh or whatever, exasperation

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is. So what happened? Why are you

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Speaker 2: Because she's a little tease.

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Speaker 4: That woman's bogus, man, she's a tease and she's bogus.

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Speaker 2: Why Well, she led me on. We matched and and

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Speaker 2: things literally just continued.

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Speaker 5: To escalate in a beautiful, you know direction towards dating,

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Speaker 5: and we you know, started texting, We changed numbers, we

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Speaker 5: got super flirty, and then one morning, to my surprise,

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Speaker 5: you know, the sex thing turned into a nude and

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Speaker 5: I was like, dang, yeah it was hot.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So there was a lot.

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Speaker 1: See what she didn't mention was that the two weeks

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Speaker 1: of texting before you met that there was sexual texting.

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Speaker 4: Sexting is what the kids call.

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Speaker 5: It, right, A lot of implications for what happened when

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Speaker 2: And then we went on this date.

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Speaker 1: And at this point, you've seen a picture of her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were already at the end before we started.

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Speaker 5: So I mean I was like, okay, so all that's off,

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Speaker 4: So why Tonner's right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So you're going into this date, as I

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Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, well, clearly this is the direction

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Speaker 2: We've already kind of.

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Speaker 6: Quotes signed off on it. So I tried to be affectionate.

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Speaker 2: During the date and literally, you know, at the end

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Speaker 2: shut me down. And I was like, what, Like, okay,

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Speaker 2: so you just send someone a nude.

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Speaker 1: So you're angry because she's sexed with you and sent

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Speaker 1: you a nude, But then in person, she sort of

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Speaker 1: reserved the right to be physical with you the first

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Speaker 1: time that you ever met. I mean, I can see

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Speaker 1: why you had those expectations, but a person always has

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Speaker 1: a right to say no. And you know, people do

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Speaker 4: But like she owes you nothing. You do realize that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but she, I mean she led me on. Like

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Speaker 2: A different person.

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Speaker 5: It's like all that work that we put into where

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, was is this the person I

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Speaker 1: Well, let me bring Violet in. I forgot to mention

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Speaker 1: that Violet is here. So Violet, you didn't tell us

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can see why you know, somebody may

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I want to say that absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I reserve the right to be able to say yes

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Speaker 3: or no to getting physical with someone that I just met.

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Speaker 3: And second of all, sending a sexy picture of myself

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Speaker 3: automatically going to, you know, get lucky the first time

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Speaker 3: to be honest, like, and it wasn't even like it

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Speaker 3: was more like a teasing kind of thing. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that I am a teased as a person.

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Speaker 2: That means that I was, you know.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I've taken two law school classes total,

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Speaker 1: and I can say that a picture does not constitute

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Speaker 8: Because I'm so conflicted, Like I want to ride for

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Speaker 8: my girl, because you don't owe a man anything, right,

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Speaker 8: it's side to give it up. But Sis, you just

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Speaker 8: out here snapchat and you can't to everybody, right like

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Speaker 8: you never met that man.

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Speaker 4: He didn't buy you a business. She didn't say everybody.

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Speaker 4: But you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't send that nuty picture and say like nothing,

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Speaker 1: nothing's on the table.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You absolutely can. You can.

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Speaker 1: You can talk and communicate and express yourself sexually. And

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Speaker 1: and that does not mean that this man is owed

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Speaker 4: Is owed anything.

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Speaker 1: Again, I can see why the expectation was set, but

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Speaker 1: You need more time, So you could be disappointed, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I think, But you can't fault her for not giving

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I think this is so opposite.

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Speaker 2: What is anything I've ever experienced?

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Speaker 6: That's like that is the natural progression, like at least

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Speaker 2: But you were saying earlier like oh oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Be lucky a photograph. Well, and by the way, you

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Speaker 8: Like that happens a lot of times in relationships. You

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Speaker 8: talk a good game when you're not around each other,

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Speaker 8: and then you walk the wall and he's like, you

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Speaker 8: know what about everything you said in the text, like start.

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Speaker 1: Get away, I've done that, I've built up a day before.

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Speaker 1: And then we go to dinner and we eat like

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Speaker 1: and they got that. They got the prim rib right there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're being post Paul, you know, by a day or two,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I reserve the right to

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Speaker 1: say I need my pace after a meal like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Violent, you know, you know, you know, I just got.

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Speaker 7: To say, like I well, okay, yes, I sent a

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Speaker 7: picture of myself. And you know, we had we were

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Speaker 7: having all these conversations, but also like Luke, like it's

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Speaker 7: not like you were the same person exactly that I

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Speaker 7: like all the whity banter and put comebacks and you know,

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Speaker 7: this isn't.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what I thought it was going to be, Like.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really feel it.

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Speaker 2: Ways I was.

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Speaker 3: Feeling it in our conversations, and so now you know,

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Speaker 3: here I am kind of feeling like, Okay, let's you know,

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Speaker 3: let's let's give this another shot. Let's give us another date.

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Speaker 3: And so I was going, I was I had more

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Speaker 3: I absolutely had the intention of seeing him again and

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Speaker 1: You see, Luke, you're putting it all on her. I

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Speaker 1: mean you didn't exactly show up yourself. I mean you

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Speaker 1: it's almost like you walked in knowing you got it already.

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Speaker 4: I mean basically you said you were just waiting for it.

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Speaker 4: You said that already. Yes, you didn't even.

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Speaker 1: Try, because it's like, well, I got I got this already,

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Speaker 1: but you still gotta try.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you didn't.

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Speaker 2: She said, I just feel like we didn't try.

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Speaker 3: He didn't try.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Look, I just was so confused by the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just everybody reserves the right to change their mind

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Speaker 1: or to say, hey, let's slow this down or talk

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Speaker 1: is cheap. But look, I will ask the question. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this is a misunderstanding. He had, you know, expectations that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't exactly what you thought. Will you guys go

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Speaker 1: out again? Would you like to try one more time?

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Speaker 1: See if it goes better the second time?

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: And also Ruvi, I was wondering if you could stand

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Speaker 1: over a transcript of your texting with one another, because

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Speaker 1: we would just like to see sort of journalistic purpose,

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Speaker 1: journalistic purposes, Kik, you'd like to go through it and

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Speaker 1: just make sure that you.

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Speaker 3: Know that I feel like you can. You can figure

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Speaker 3: it out. You know what was said between us, you

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Speaker 3: know at anything that was unusual And honestly, no, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that I'm interested. I really want to be

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Speaker 3: with someone that's going to be a little bit more

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Speaker 3: transparent in the second that something is misunderstood, I'd like

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Speaker 3: to actually have a conversation about it and not just

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Speaker 3: be ghosted.

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Speaker 2: I want to be that someone doesn't want eighty I

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Speaker 2: don't want to, like definitely what's happening. And then it's

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Speaker 2: like psych jokes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, don't.

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Speaker 6: Pull the rug out from underneath me.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know what, you can keep your mailfective

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Speaker 3: all to your.

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Speaker 4: No beds and covered rug. Oh my god, Okay, she might.

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Speaker 1: Have hard I was gonna say, it doesn't it doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter what the state of the flores was because

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Speaker 1: he didn't get to walk on him so barefoot socks

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Speaker 1: not it doesn't matter. That's not happening.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm starving this right now because we'll play this

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Speaker 1: game for seven years. All right, guys, look, it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna work out.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. It's not a match. Best to look to

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Speaker 4: both of you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, thank you so much