1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to what we like to call the MAC and 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: three OTP. That was one of the coolest things. Hey, 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: people listen to this a lot. Sometimes they do, No, 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: they do, and all of that right there they did. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: And they asked me about MAC and three and I said, 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: these three that I'm working with are brilliant. That's Dave McGinnis. 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: He would be the mac Amy Wells is here. Hello, 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: the great Jim Wyatt is here, two of three, and 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith. So it is the MAC and three 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: OTP on Friday, March the fifteenth, with much to talk about. 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: This is why I contend that the National Football League 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: is the most popular sport in America. Not only is 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: the football great in the fall, but we go year 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: round making news like nobody else. And the past week 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. Oh my gosh, it's been wild and crazy. 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: I always describe free agency in this type of or 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: this time of the year as a giant game of 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: red rover. Every offseason, every person in the NFL lines 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: up in two lines, and then they all run at 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: each other and switch teams. Don't I couldn't tell you 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: who plays for any team right now. I have no clue, 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: but it has been so much fun to watch this news. 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Twitter is on fire. This to me. Look, there is 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: never an offseason in the National Football League. There is 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: just a season when you don't play games. There is 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: this NFL is full on every minute of the day 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: for twelve months out of the year. This is a 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: huge part of it. I love her analogy because, look, 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: this is an extremely important part. Right now. There are 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: four stages to NFL free agency. This is the first 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: stage we've gone through. The first immediate stage that you 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: go through before the draft, after the comb all right, 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: the league has reconciled a little bit of the tampering 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: with the two days legal tampering. It used to go 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: on all the time. Believe me, I did it. I'm 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: just telling the truth. But now now as to what 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: we have, you've got, we've got three more sections of 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: free agency to go. Don't think that it's it's completely 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: over yet. But the first initial phase where you get 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: the first influx, as Amy says, where everybody starts to 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: switch very very quick. It's really exciting, it's interesting, and 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: if you do it right, you're making your team better. Yeah, 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: and it is a three hundred and sixty five day 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: league year. Now it's never stopped free agencies. At one 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: thing that has changed over the last you know, eight years. 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: I guess once this three day period started is initially 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: I think the league didn't want teams even announcing deals. 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: They didn't want agents announcing deals until the league years started, 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: which was this past Wednesday. And I remember the first 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: year when that went into effect, three o'clock Central time 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: on the day free asis started, year of Twitter would 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: just blow up because all these deals were announced at 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: the same time. Now, the first wave of free agency 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: is oval with by the time the actual league year 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: starts and all these deals, it's kind of free for 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: all these deals are now the teams can't do anything 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: about it until the guys come in and sign and 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: past the physical. But the agents now are leaking these 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: things left and right. Where Monday was a flurry, Tuesday 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: was a flurry. You look at some websites and they've 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: already got the contracts posted with the signing bonuses and 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: the year the year's salary, So that part has completely changed. 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: And uh and it here we are, you know, end 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: of the week, and thanks continue to happen from players 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: getting released, the players being signed, and it's gonna go 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: like this for a while until thanks really slow down. 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Let's start with the latest news as we tape the 68 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: MAC and three OTP, and that is the release of 69 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: right guard Josh Klein. Jim White surprised, No, I mean, 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that certainly a big edition by bringing in 71 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Rogers Saffold to play when the guard spots. I think 72 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: when that happened, I think some people assume, well, it's 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: could be okay, it's could be Saffold one side, potentially 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Klein and then Ben Jones in the middle will if 75 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: you ask me, And I'm not trying to slight Josh Klein. 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: I think when I looked at that group inside last year, 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: he was the probably the worst of the bunch. And 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: again I'm not trying to disrespect him. I thought Ben 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Jones was better than people thought he was, and I 80 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: think that that Klein's struggled, and I think with this 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: contract situation, you know, I think John Robinson figured make 82 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: this move now and still plenty options out there in 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: free agency and the draft where you can still people 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: may panic here, you know, on March the fifteenth, Okay, 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: who's your other guard? Are going to be there's time 86 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: and there's options on the roster that can help you 87 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: back up there and uh so that that seat won't 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: be left unfilled. Uh you know, heading into offseason work. 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: General managers in this league separate themselves by these types 90 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of decisions because and again I've done this a long time, 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: and look, those general managers, you make decisions. Every decision 92 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: you make, you make to make your football team better. 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: But if that decision doesn't work out, and you are 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: willing to admit that it didn't work out and move on, 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: those types of general managers are the type that you 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: want as a head coach. Believe me, that's what you want, 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: and as a fan base that's what you want also, 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: because look, you're dealing with human beings. Even if you're 99 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: getting a free agent out of this league that you've 100 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: watched them play, you can it can still not work 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: out like you want it to. And take the money 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: out of it. And once you take the money out 103 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: of it and make as long as you're making pure 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: football decisions with every personnel decision you make, you are 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: getting better. John Robinson is at the top of the 106 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: list in my opinion, being able to separate himself and 107 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: from and because you gotta take your ego out of it, 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: just because you made the decision and it doesn't work out, 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: admit that it didn't work out, and go make a 110 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: better one. I like the move coach Max taking the 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: money out of it. I'm putting the money back into 112 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: it because realistically, not every person on the offensive line 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: can be getting paid. There's only so much money to 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: go around. We know Taylor Lawan got paid last year. 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Roger Staffold's going to get paid. Jack Conklin is going 116 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: to get paid. Ben Jones has a contract right now. 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: So you've got to do some allocating of funds and finances. 118 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: So as much as it's a decision based on productivity 119 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: and all of that, there's also a financial decision to 120 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: be made. And it's coach Mike mention. I mean, I've 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: seen it happen a ton of times. You've seen it 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: happened more times than I have. But you know, a 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: GM makes a decision like that, and they're going to 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: ride with them until the wheels fall off because they 125 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: don't want to admit the mistake. And that creates a 126 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: bad feeling among the coaches at the front office, and 127 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: you kind of got to feel in the locker room. 128 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, the only worries this guy is playing because 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: he's got you know, he was being paid this much money. 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: So you'll eliminate that stuff, is coach Mike said. And 131 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a move that had to be made. 132 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: And now I'm curious to see what happens at that 133 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: other guard spot. Could Kevin palm Field, who was resigned 134 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: this week, end up being the Titans starting right guard. 135 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: He could, he could, He's gonna compete for it. But look, 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: as I said, there's some more levels of free agency 137 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: to go. And remember now the area you're in now 138 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: to fill your football team as a draft, and this 139 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: draft we were we were all at the combine together. 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: We've been going through this for a month and a half. Now. 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: This draft is big, people concentric this year offensively defensive line. 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: There's some guys, they're dudes that can play. I'm talking 143 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: about in the top one hundred players. Yeah, and I 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: think I'd be surprised if it's palm Field. I mean, 145 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, so many things are at stake 146 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: here because if you draft ad a true center in 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: the you know, in the NFL Draft, potentially you move 148 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Ben Jones to play guard, So you've got to keep 149 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: that in mind as well. I think I think the 150 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: star will come the starting spot is filled, whether it's 151 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: center or guard's going to come from somebody's not on 152 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the roster right now. Well, and we have to remember 153 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: that in training camp. That's really when we're going to 154 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: see how this line shakes out. There's so much time 155 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: during camp where they rearrange everything and we'll see all 156 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: kinds of people playing all kinds of different positions, and 157 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: they're just trying to find the best fit for everyone 158 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: and the best chemistry along that line. So I think 159 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: that we can watch them acquire offensive lineman and try 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: and find some pieces that we can speculate might fit. 161 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: We're not going to know until we get to training camp. 162 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: Is that why Dave McGinnis the signing of former Ram 163 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Roger Saffold was exactly the right signing for the Tennessee type. 164 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: I was so happy when that happened. First of all, 165 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: he was the best interior offensive lineman in this free 166 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: agency period. You know, I've got five years of experience 167 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: with Roger Saffold in Saint Louis and in LA. That 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: guy was the best offensive lineman we had. We played 169 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: him at left, took on left guard, right guard, right tackle. Okay, 170 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: and he really begins. He really began to blossom, you know, 171 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: once they finally brought Andrew Whitworth in and put him 172 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: right next to him. Look, Roger Saffold is a big 173 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: man that is light on his feet. He's powerful, he's 174 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: got a lot of nasty to him, and he's smart. 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: You saw his press conference. I mean this, this was 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: a tremendous signing for this football team. I must say 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: the bear hug between you and Roger Saffold after the 178 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: press conference was the most magical thing I've ever seen. 179 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: It was lovely. There are friends reunited. He's a big dude. 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: It was in Melton he would have been called for 181 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: holding the way he got right. Coach Coach know this 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: about coach Mick. Coach Mike only hugs good players. He 183 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: is I mean, I think the welcome and guy like 184 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: that who has the versatility h They can play a 185 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: number of positions. As Amy mentioned, competition in training camp 186 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: could could lead to some surprises and as many guys, 187 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: you've got to have played guard and played tackle and 188 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: played on both sides. That helps you in trying to 189 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: come up with some conclusions. But if a guy that 190 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: just came off a Super Bowl appearance knows what it 191 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: takes to win, I think he's gonna fit in great 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: in this locker room. I was impressed with this press 193 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: conference yesterday. The Titans will have a new backup quarterback. 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, the team makes a trade with the Miami 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins and they obtain Ryan Tannehill. Jim Wyatt, are you 196 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: surprised by the decision to move away from Blaine Gabbert 197 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: and obtain the former Texas A and M signal caller. 198 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm I figured it was coming. You just 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: didn't know who it was going to be. And then 200 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, certainly words started to circulate here inside the 201 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: building yesterday and kind of knew it was coming, just 202 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: a matter of win. And I think that he's an upgrade. 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question you can say it. And 204 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I thought Blaine Gabbert, you know, he took some unfair shots, 205 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I think from some people last year, but you got 206 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: to give him credit for winning, you know, the Texans 207 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: game for this team. He won the Redskins game for 208 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: this team. I thought he stepped in and played well 209 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: as a backup, But this team needed to get better there, 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: and I think with tanne Hill get better. These numbers 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of speak for themselves. I'm just talking about I'm 212 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: just gonna run down these real quick games. Tanney Hill 213 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: eighty eight to fifty six for Gabbett wins forty two 214 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: tanny Hill sixteen. Gabbert completion percent is sixty two point 215 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: eight Tannehill fifty six point two Gabbert passing yards in 216 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: his career twenty thousand and four to thirty four tanny 217 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Hill nine thousand and sixty three Gabbert yards per attempt 218 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: seven tanny Hill Gabbert six point one touchdowns one hundred 219 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: twenty three Tannehill Gabbert forty eight. Passer rating eighty seven 220 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: point zero Gabbert seventy one point seven rushing yards twelve 221 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: ten rushing yards for Gabbert six thirty one and overall 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: QB passer rating in two eighteen ninety two point seven 223 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: for Tannehill seventy four point nine to Gabbett. Numbers don't 224 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: always tell you the same the story, but tanne Hills 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: played a lot more games, He's been a lot more effective, 226 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: and he's a better backup officer for this team moving forward, well, 227 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: great athlete to a lot of people, forget that he 228 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: began his career at Texas A and M as a 229 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So to me, Amy, he is much more 230 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: similar to Marcus Mariota in terms of play style because, 231 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: as Jim mentioned, he can run. He doesn't run quite 232 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: as well as Marcus, but he can run. You can 233 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: run the same offense with him well, and that's the thing. 234 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: That's what you're ultimately looking for in a backup quarterback 235 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: is someone who you don't have to change the scheme 236 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: for or you don't have to dumb down the playbook 237 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: for when they're in because they have such a different 238 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: skill set from the number one guy. So with Tannehill, 239 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: you have more of that similar skill set, you have 240 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: more parallels between the two, so if something were to 241 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: happen in the middle of a game, you don't have 242 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: to change anything. He can just come in and keep 243 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: it rolling. And that's really what this team is looking for, 244 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: and I think that that's what this team has been 245 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: lacking in the past. And John Rominson made no I mean, 246 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: he tried to clear up any confusion that anybody would 247 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: have about what Ryan Tannehill's role was going to be 248 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: coming in because I think already on Twitter you see 249 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: some stuff and about people well as couldntain he'll compete 250 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: with Marcus and be the starter. He's coming in here 251 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: to be the backup. John Robinson told that to Ryan Tannehill. 252 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: He told that to Marcus Mariota, so you kind of 253 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: know the expectation coming in. With that said, if you're 254 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill and you're looking for a good landing spot, 255 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: you know it's a smart business move to come here. 256 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Marcus Mario has got one year left on his contract. 257 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: He has not He needs to prove he can stay healthy. 258 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: And if he can't stay healthy, Ryan tanney Hill is 259 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: going to get a chance to play This guy again. 260 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: There's no question, one of the best a starting thirty 261 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: two quarterback in this league. And now the Titans have 262 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: two starting quarter two guys that could start at quarterback, 263 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: even though Marcus is clearly the number one, and with 264 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the departure of Gabbert and the fact that Miami picks 265 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: up some of the deal, it's in essence cap neutral. 266 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: You improve your backup, you move up forty five spots 267 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: from the seventh round to the sixth round this year, 268 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: you give up before next year, but it helps your 269 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: two nineteen football team, I think definitely well. And I 270 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: think that's what these moves are about right now. Listen, 271 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: this Tennessee Titans team has shown how close they are. 272 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: So we're not thinking about rebuilding a team for years 273 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: to come, as we've seen us doing the offseason previous years. 274 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: We're thinking about twenty nineteen. How can we get the 275 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: best pieces for this team right now. I think this 276 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: is a move that shows that in twenty nineteen, the 277 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans aren't messing around staying with offense. Adam Humphries 278 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: comes from Tampa Bay seventy six catches for over eight 279 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: hundred yards, five touchdowns. Forty eight of his seventy six 280 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: catches went for first downs. Told me in an interview yesterday, 281 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: sure called me a slot receivers. Some receivers resent that 282 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He says, that's what I do. If there 283 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: was any signing that I think the Titans could have 284 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: made that fit exactly what the doctor ordered, it was 285 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Adam Humphries at slot. And it helps everybody. Helps a 286 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: quarterback because he gives him a god to find in 287 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. He helps Delaney Walker because 288 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: it's one less more guy that have to worry about. 289 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: He helps the running game, he helps outside receivers. And 290 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: I think you know the fact and not that the 291 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Patriots are certainly the team you got to model yourself 292 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: after allthough they have been very successful. But the fact 293 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: that they were in on him so much and made 294 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: a run at him two different times to get him 295 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: kind of shows you the way the league respects what 296 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: he has done. And I think he's gonna be great 297 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: in this offense. He's a tough guy, makes tough cutches 298 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: across the field, He takes hits, he makes guys miss, 299 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: he gets first downs. Uh. I think fans really gonna 300 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: like him. You know what, we've all seen the film. 301 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: You can watch film and evaluate people, but you don't 302 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: know the person. You can't get the person off the film. 303 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: I had two assistant coaches for Dirk Cutter on offense 304 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: called me when we signed him. One that you know, 305 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm very very familiar with. All he wanted to say 306 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,239 Speaker 1: was Mac, you could not have signed in this organization 307 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: a more professional player. They said, this guy is a 308 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: pro and he is fantastic look, he has got he 309 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: has got stick him and miss him to him. I 310 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: mean he can stick his foot in the ground. He 311 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: can run those option routes as good as anybody I've 312 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: ever seen. He's a tough player, but their qualification and 313 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: their recommendation as a person, and I think we've seen 314 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: I think we saw that character displayed by not only 315 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: what he did, because New England coming after him at 316 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: the last minute was legit. Believe me, I was contacted 317 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: by that too, that was legit. And for him to 318 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: hold to his guns, and that to me says a 319 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: world about the person, and the person is important. Speaking 320 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: of professionals, the resigning of Kenny Vaccaro as significant as 321 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: anything the Titans have done. Amy Wells, you sat down 322 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: with him in our Saint Thomas Sports Park studio and 323 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: really an interesting conversation because it was clearly the most 324 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: open and excited that I've ever heard Kenny Vacaro. Winny 325 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Tom absolutely, and I mean, let's first say, he had 326 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: just signed his contract, so it's not hard to be 327 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: excited after that happens, but he really was fired up 328 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: about returning to this team. He talked a lot about 329 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: the guys in that room, with him and how close 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: he is with a Dory and Kevin Byard and Malcolm 331 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Butler and all those guys. He said even FaceTime, Malcolm 332 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Butler and I quote Malcolm Butler doesn't talk to anyone 333 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: unless he has to. So I think that they have 334 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: a really strong bond. And he just thinks that the 335 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: sky's the limit for all of the guys in the secondary. 336 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: And he was so excited to get back with this 337 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: team and continue to build on what they did last year, 338 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: which I thought was just so cool. Yeah, and I 339 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: think certainly, uh and the one and he spoke to it. 340 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: And before I get too far away from Humphreys, I 341 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: want to forgot to mention that he had now with 342 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots. He had understand he had four teams that 343 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: were that wanted him when free ac started, and then 344 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: so he picked the Titans over four other teams, you know, 345 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: across the NFL, and stuck that commitment. As far as 346 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Karl goes, I mean, it's it's we talk about the 347 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: comings and goings around the league, and you know, from 348 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: guys getting released to guys getting signed, the guy's getting extensions. 349 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: And I thought the really touching thing from him the 350 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday was him talking about Jonathan Cyprian. Jonathan Cyprian, 351 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: you know really good guys we all know, and had 352 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: bad luck. Here's first year he played just ten games, 353 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: came back Fantasy years strong. I think he felt like 354 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: he was gonna have a great twenty eighteen. Tears as 355 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: acl in camp and Kenny Vaccaro shows up period a 356 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: couple of days later and played extremely well, and Cyprian 357 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: knows how the league works. I talked to him with 358 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He said, Hey, there's a scenario where 359 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm back and Kenny Vacaro's. No, there's a scenario where 360 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: Keny Vacaro's back and I'm not. There's a scenario where 361 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: both of us are bike. He said, you can't control that. 362 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: We'll kind of see what happens. But I think he 363 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of felt like the rotting was on the wall. 364 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: And even with that, he supported Kenny Vacaro all the 365 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: way through. And to hear Vaccaro talk about him and 366 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: get emotional, tearing up about the support he guy from 367 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Cyprian, I thought said a lot just about not 368 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: only Cyprian, but just about kind of the relations and 369 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: ship guys are forming inside that locker room. But Carl's 370 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: a great get. He was going to go, so if 371 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: you don't get him, he's going somewhere else to play. 372 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: He's got good chemistry with Kevin Byrd and uh it 373 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: was guys all like him. He's a tone setter, you know, 374 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: on the defense and uh, you know, he's another big hit. 375 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: He didn't count as a free agent. He's not coming 376 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: from another team, but he's a big free agency get 377 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: in my mind of keeping him from going somewhere else. 378 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: You know, the first time Vacaro showed up here was 379 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: that situational practice we had at the end of training camp, 380 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: because you know, he was he'd been a free agent 381 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: for that long. I've known about Kenny Vacaro. He's a 382 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: West Texas guy, of course, which i'd you know, defer 383 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: to a lot from Brownwood, Texas. Look, this kid was 384 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: the best. He was the best safety coming out of 385 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: the draft when he came out of the draft. I've 386 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: liked his game, you know, ever since, and I like 387 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: it even more now that I see very seldom do 388 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: you bring a guy in that late that fits in 389 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: immediately with your team as fast as he fit in, 390 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: and that as quick as he assimilated himself to Demp's 391 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: is not only schematically, but the way that he brought Look, 392 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: he's a legitimate tough guy. This is a legitimate tough 393 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: guy playing in a legitimate tough defense and he fit 394 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: right in. This to me was an extremely important signing 395 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: for two reasons. He doesn't have to relearn anything. He 396 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: can only start to build on what he had. The 397 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: chemistry that Amy has talked about within that group, I 398 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: thought was one of the most major things to the 399 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: development of this defense. The way Demps used them, and 400 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: plus he wanted to be here. You could tell he 401 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: wanted to be here, and that's you want that. That's 402 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: why this organization is so strong. They are building a 403 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: locker room and a culture that people want to be here. 404 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: When you have that, you could send that from Roger 405 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: Saffil yesterday he said, Coach Mack and this is a 406 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: good place, isn't it. I said, It's a great place. 407 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Roger tight End. Luke Stocker is not going to be here. 408 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: He leaves the Titans to go to the Atlanta Falcons. 409 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt, were you surprised by that? Well, yeah, he 410 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to come back. Oh, He's a guy 411 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: that the team was interested in resigning, and he apparently 412 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: got a better offer from the Falcons, and uh, you 413 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: know sometimes that happens in free ac Now you've got 414 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: a spot to Phil and you know that that room 415 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: is not empty. I mean certainly, John hu Smith, Delanny Walker, 416 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Ferkshire, you know, play well last year, Michael Pruett. 417 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: But I think you'll see another edition there. I mean, 418 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: but soccer was you know, he's a butt of a 419 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: lot of jokes because of the fourth and one Kieri 420 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: that he had in Houston, But it overlooks the fact 421 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: he's a really good blocker, a good team guy, a 422 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: good player, and and he leaves a little bit of 423 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: a hole here that needs to be addressed because he 424 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: is that physical presence. Amy Wells, were you surprised, Um No, 425 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. I figured that with the way that 426 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: free agency works, there's always a guy that gets away 427 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: that you're always like, ah, I wish we could have. 428 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: But I mean it leaves a lot of room for 429 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: the Titans to make some moves and find another physical 430 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: blocking tight end. I know there are some in the draft. 431 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: I know that there are still some out there. I'm 432 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: not worried about the tight end position for a second. No, 433 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's not surprising. Amy's exactly right. You're gonna 434 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: lose some. You're gonna lose some, and then what you 435 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: try to do. Clearly, I mean, there's contingency plans throughout 436 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: this roster and as soon as soon as that slot 437 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: was vacated, believe me, they've already got plans as to 438 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: how to fill it. And what Amy says is right, 439 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways to fill that slot. There 440 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: are people in this draft. You know, I've been going 441 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: through this draft pretty heavy. There are guys in this 442 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: draft like that that will be filled. And I think 443 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: it kind of shows you what the front office is 444 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: dealing with two on some of these deals, because while 445 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: they wanted Stock or Bich, I think there was a 446 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: point they weren't going to cross or there was a 447 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: number on him that what his value was, and if 448 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: you could get it somewhere else and want to try that, 449 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, go for it. But uh, and I think 450 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: that's what happened here. I mean, I think he certainly 451 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: was a guy that was they intended to resign, but 452 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: they weren't going to overpay or put themselves in a 453 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: position where they're going to extend themselves too much. And 454 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: this is such an interesting time of the year because 455 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: in terms of guys and teammates and locker rooms, everyone 456 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: understands that this is the time to get that money. 457 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, this is the time where people are trying 458 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: to do what's best for them and their personal business, 459 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: where teams are doing the same thing, and they're trying 460 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: to do what's best for the team business. So this 461 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: is the time where we see some of that wheeling 462 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: and dealing and people get away and guys move on 463 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: that you wish you could have kept, and we're good 464 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: for the team and all of that, but guys are 465 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: trying to get their money. And I think everyone understands 466 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: that this is professional football. That's right, and that's what 467 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: you do, and that's where tough decisions are made. But 468 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: they're the guys and free asa. Do you chase the 469 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: money or do you go to a place where maybe 470 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: you're a better fit. And I'm not saying that, I'm 471 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: not saying this is what happened with Luke Stocker, but 472 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: I look around the league, you know, Monday twos, you 473 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: see in some of these contracts that are just for 474 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: whopping numbers, and you think, you know, okay, this guy 475 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: at least is going to have money in security, but 476 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: maybe the situation is not going to be great for him. 477 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: You got a really weigh what's most important to you. 478 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about resignings. We mentioned pom Field 479 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: in the offensive line. That's one that certainly stands out. 480 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: David Flewwellen at the running back position. Amy Wells. He's 481 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: certainly a popular guy within the building, and for good 482 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: reason he is. He's a good guy, and I think 483 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: everyone was so sad to see him go down late 484 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: in the season. He was just starting to get some carries, 485 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: be impactful and then he goes down just out of nowhere, untouched. 486 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: So I think I'm very excited to have him come back, 487 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: see what he can do in his what would be 488 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I guess his third year here, and really see him 489 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: start to develop and maybe earn some of that respect 490 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: and earn some of those carries. I'm glad that he's 491 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: going to be here for another year. No, I think 492 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: he's an important piece. Look, fifty three man roster, there 493 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: is nobody that is not important. You know, that's something 494 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: that everybody needs to remember. You know, there may be 495 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: some more visible guys, but the importance to a franchise 496 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: and the importance to a club. And I think this 497 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: is a nice piece. He's a good special teams player. 498 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: You know, he can he can also you know, he 499 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: can also do some things offensively. I liked I liked it. 500 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: He's coming back. And another piece, Ty Smith at the 501 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: cornerback position. And before we talk about him specifically, I mean, 502 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Titans at corner. Name me a 503 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: team in the league who has a better five man 504 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: corner situation than a Dory Jackson, Logan, Ryan, Malcolm Butler, Lea, 505 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Shaun Simms, and Ty Smith. Uh Durden and Calue certainly 506 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: have shown potential as well. It's very rare for a 507 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: team to not be worried about corner depth at this 508 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: moment in the offseason. That's one spot the Titans have 509 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: to feel pretty good. Yeah, I would, I mean, and 510 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: I do. I mean, you know, here's a guy that 511 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: started two playoff games just a couple of years ago, 512 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: and if not for an injury, he would have been 513 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: involved this past season to some degree. So uh good 514 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: players worked hard, really like him. And uh I agree, Michael. 515 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: I think the secondary, at least a cornerback spot is good. 516 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: I think certainly we've talked about SIPP and we've talked 517 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: about for Carro. I could still see another edition there coming, 518 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: but I think a secondary at corner you're in good shape. 519 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: Eleven personnel. Just for our listeners, get that in your mind. 520 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Eleven personnel. That's what most people line up with offensively 521 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, not only on third down, 522 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 1: but on first and second down. Three wide receivers, one 523 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: tight end, one running back, and a lot of times 524 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: dispersed to look like an empty set. You can never 525 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: get enough cover people on your defense. You just cannot 526 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: do it. And that's so important. You've got to build 527 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: that because the way this game has expanded offensively, especially horizontally, 528 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: you've got to have guys that can cover in space. 529 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Right now, only three safeties on this roster. Can the 530 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Titans find another safety in this draft who could help them? 531 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: Taking out Dan Crookshank because maybe he can step in 532 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: and play more of a role on defense than he 533 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: did last year. Just going to take him out for 534 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: just to say, but can they find safety help that 535 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: can be immediate? Help for the defense in the twenty 536 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: nineteen draft. Well, it depends on what you talk about 537 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: immediate help. I mean, you've got two guys that can 538 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: play interchange back there with vacar On Bayard. They can 539 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: play back, they can drop down. If you ask me 540 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: if there are safeties in this draft that will be 541 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: able to contribute as rookies from the line of scrimmage, 542 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: and we're not talking special teams. My answers, yes, I've 543 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: already vetted these guys. The answers, yes, yeah, And I agree. 544 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I can't help. But wonder, you know, if Kendrick Luis 545 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: is hanging around out there, whether or not he's you know, 546 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: potentially somebody you consider. I can't help, but wonder what 547 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: happens if if if Jonathan Sipprin remains a free agent 548 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: for a long time, and uh, you know, would that 549 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: potentially be an option, But you know, at this point 550 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: he's probably to come back here obviously would be taking 551 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot less money, And I think 552 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: pride comes into play. Jonathan Sipre's a great guy. But 553 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: I think I do think you can't dismiss the fact 554 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: that it's it may be tough for a guy to 555 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: come back into a locker room on a reduced role 556 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: after being a starting safety for you, you know, at 557 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: the start of your career. Here Damian Webb, who was 558 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: on the practice squad last year, could he be a factor? 559 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Jim could be. I mean thought enough to still be 560 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: hanging around here and spent so much time with the team. 561 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: Somebody to keep an eye all but I think there's 562 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: gonna be more incoming at that position, all right, So 563 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: lots to do in the secondary. A lot of talk 564 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: in this offseason about pass rusher, about outside linebacker, about 565 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: strengthening that position. When the reports came out that Cameron 566 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Wake was going to be the first signee for the 567 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Titans at the outside linebacker position. Ninety eight sacks in 568 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: ten years, five Pro Bowls, Amy Wells, were you surprised? 569 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: I was ecstatic. Were you surprised? No, not really. I 570 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: think that it has it is no secret that that's 571 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: an area of need for the Tennessee Titans, and I 572 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: think that that was a price already for everyone upstairs. 573 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: And I was just I was beside myself. I was 574 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: so happy. I think that he is going to be 575 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: such a good fit for this defense. And I think 576 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: that Demps is going to have a lot of fun 577 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: with him. I'm not surprised. I've got a lot of 578 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: history with Cameron Wake in this building. You know, when 579 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Jim Washburn was a defensive line coach here, he called 580 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: me into his office to look at Cameron Wake's two 581 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: seasons in the CFL when he went up there and 582 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: was adamant and went upstairs, which Washburn would do, Yes, 583 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: he will to go upstairs and kick doors open. And 584 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: this is the guy that he wanted, and for good reason. 585 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: This is a natural pass rusher. Now Court, now he's 586 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, he can still rush the passer. 587 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: It didn't surprise me. I mean, he could have been 588 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: in this building a long time ago. I'm happy he's here. Well, 589 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: it's funny, of all the moves so far, this is 590 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: the one that I've gotten both sides on him. Because 591 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: one side is ecstatic about getting a guy who's got 592 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: ninety eight career sicks. He's got five multi double digit 593 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: sack years, you know. But the other side of it 594 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: is he's thirty seven years old, and you'll wonder how 595 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: much gas it has left in the tank. I'll say 596 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: this just reading the stuff out of Miami and seeing 597 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: some of the playtime stats, they're sad to see him go. 598 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, because he was a good player and very 599 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: productive and reduced snaps last year. But he's also such 600 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: a great guy, you know, in the community and in 601 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: the locker room, and that helps a team as well, 602 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: especially a team that has some youth that needs to develop. 603 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: So I think he's going to make an impact on 604 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: this team in two thy nineteen and hopefully beyond. But 605 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: I think just his presence alone will will do this 606 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: team some good. You've said something key, because my first 607 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: thought when I read it was Harold Landry just got 608 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: a lot better. Well, yeah, he did, because I mean, 609 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, look, let's talk about twenty nineteen, because that's 610 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: why you signed this guy. I mean, you signed this 611 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: guy to be able to bring and we all know 612 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: we needed a little more heat from the edge and 613 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: you still a lot more. Yeah. Well, and you start 614 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: signing guys like this, you know four twenty nineteen. I mean, 615 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: to me, that's important. And the way you construct a team, 616 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean you've got to construct it with different pieces. 617 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: All of the lego pieces have to fit, but they're 618 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: all different shapes and sizes, but they all fit together 619 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: if you get the right ones. This is the right 620 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: one for right now in my opinion. What has made 621 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: him such a special pass rusher Dave McGinnis, Well, first 622 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: of all, he's a great hand use guy. He understands 623 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: and he and he's he made himself like that. He 624 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: came into this league out of Penn State as a 625 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: stand up behind the line linebacker. That's not his world. 626 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: He was basically Wesley Woodyard. He went to Yeah, I 627 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: mean he's behind the ball linebacker. He went to Canada, Okay, 628 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: you know where it's a it's a three down game, 629 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: and developed himself into a pass rusher. And again I'm 630 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna defer back to Jim Washburn again because 631 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: of this. He's one of the best I've ever seen 632 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: at identifying pass rushers. I mean, he'll look under every 633 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: rock in America to find a pass rusher. And I mean, 634 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: and that's and that's the truth. And he knew what 635 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: it took. This guy. This guy had as good a bend. Now, 636 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: he's not a gumby dude, but he's a guy that 637 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: can bend and get low and turn and plus his 638 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: hand usage, his counter moves. This is a pure pass rusher, 639 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: and so that's what makes him so good. Plus he 640 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: is relentless. He's relentless when he plays. Number of snaps 641 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: are going to be important, you know what Jim just 642 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: brought up. But he's relentless when he's out there with 643 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: his hand on the ground. Yeah, envision that's how the 644 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: team's usual. I know there's a lot of questions he 645 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: playing outside bikers. He's playing with his with his hand 646 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: the dirt. Envisioned being paying in the dirt defensive end 647 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: in a four three alignment and maybe maybe playing alongside 648 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: Jerald Casey on a lot of snaps. But so I 649 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: still think there's a need moving forward at outside linebacker 650 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: edge rusher to kind of help that young group as well. 651 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: But he's a different He's kind of a specialty guy 652 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: that gives his Amy mentioned piece kind of another tour 653 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: to work with. Maybe like what Charles Haley was doing 654 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: late in his career, do a lot like why Dallas 655 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: brought Charles Haley in from San Francisco. Look again, let's 656 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: go back to this eleven personnel thing. I talk about 657 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times you're gonna use four man spacing 658 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: if people are going to widen you out, okay on 659 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: first and second down, four man spacing, whether you're a 660 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: three four or four three team, four man spacing is 661 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: coming into being a lot in the National Football League 662 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: on early downs just because of the way offenses are 663 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: being played. That's how you They will use this guy, 664 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: dean piece will They will figure ways to rotate this 665 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: guy in there. I like the signing, and I'm loving 666 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: the mix of veteran leadership, the old guard with some 667 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: young fresh talent. I think that that's going to be 668 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: a good mix on this defense and is going to 669 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: be a big part of what makes it so successful 670 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: is you've got the young fresh guys who can get 671 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of reps. You've got the older guys who 672 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: can really help train up some of the young pups. 673 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: And I think that he's gonna be a great, great 674 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: fit for this defense. Again, talking to the people that 675 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: worked with him, because they changed staffs down there in Miami, 676 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: this guy's work ethic off the charts. Not necessarily a 677 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: big raw rock guy, you know, big talker, tremendous work ethic. 678 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean from Candle can't. I mean, that's what you want. 679 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: That's look the biggest way that young players learn from 680 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: veteran players in this league. It's not so much what 681 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: the veteran players say on a day to day basis, 682 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: it's what they do. This guy does. Yeah, and he's 683 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: twice been named the winner of the Don Shoe Leadership 684 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: Award down there. He was the you know, he's the 685 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: ed Block Courage Award when he came back from the 686 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: torn achilles tendon. I guess the year later. I mean 687 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: just people have admired the way he's worked and he's 688 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: going to set a great example for everybody on this team. 689 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: Here's how you know how fired up I am about 690 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: Cameron Wake. I am the first person in this room 691 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: to call someone old. I am the very first one. Yes, 692 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: you are, And in this situation, I say, age is 693 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: only a number. I'm not worried about it. I think 694 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: he's young at heart and I'm ready to watch him play. 695 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: Well that's a change. That's how you know I'm exciting 696 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: Or she's a sellout? No, no, no, let me say 697 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: maybe you know. You know where I talked about at 698 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast. Gms that separate themselves because 699 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: they're willing to admit maybe they didn't make the right 700 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: decision the first part. That's what she's doing. I mean, 701 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: she's separating herself. She is separating herself. I want to 702 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: hear from Cameron Wake yourself. Well, you'll get a chance 703 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: right here. This is my visit with Cameron Wake from 704 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: earlier today, just after he signed his contract. Cameron Wake is, 705 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: you have had success in your thirties. I have wondered this. 706 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: You leave Penn State, you go to the Giants for 707 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: six weeks in the offseason, don't make the ball club, okay, 708 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: and then you go to work as a mortgage banker, yes, 709 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: as an intern at a fitness center, and eventually you 710 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: became a personal trainer, right, and so for two years 711 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: you're in the process before you go to Canada of 712 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: doing that. As you have had great six's into your thirties, 713 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: how much has that personal trainer experience helped you to 714 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: kind of keep your body fresh, learn new techniques? How 715 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: much has that experience meant to your football success? You know, 716 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: it's helped me out in a lot of ways. Obviously 717 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: the physical part it was a tremendous success. Trying to 718 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: get your body ride, what to eat, what kind of exercises, 719 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: do to get ready for, you know, the demands of 720 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: the football world. But I think more so mentally it 721 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: was a tremendous success because it helped me kind of 722 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: not only for time management, but that work ethic. You know, 723 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: I was in a traditional nine to five role where 724 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: there's nobody helping you, there's nobody counting on you, there's 725 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: no coach blowing the whistle, there's nobody waking you up. 726 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: Those those things are all on you. And obviously, to 727 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: be successful in this in this profession, in this league, 728 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: you got to be a self start or self motivated. 729 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: You know, you can't have to people holding your hand 730 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: or or coddling you. And you know, those have been 731 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: some of the lessons that I friably carried on and 732 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, to my later years and trying to also 733 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: pass on to some of the younger guys as well. 734 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: Your story and the success has been unreal. I think 735 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of us knew you was Derek Wake back 736 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: when you were being recruited out of high school and 737 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: at Penn State. And then you go to Canada and 738 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: they get your name wrong and start calling you by 739 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: your middle name and suddenly your Cameron Wake. What would 740 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: Derek Wake. Think of Cameron Wake's great success in the 741 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: CFL and now ten years in the National Football League, 742 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: five Pro Bowls, ninety eight sacks. What would that guy 743 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: back then have thought of what you have been able 744 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: to do. I hope he wouldn't be too surprised. I 745 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: know it was a dream of his. You know, I'm 746 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: thinking back to when I was a young, a young 747 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: pup and just you know, wanting to be successful. I 748 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: knew physically having the gifts and just you know, wanting 749 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: the opportunity. So Derek just wanted an opportunity. Just give 750 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: me a chance, you know, once I get on the field. 751 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, I would like to think you wouldn't be 752 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: able to deny me. And Ameron got the opportunity to 753 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: do it, and I think Derek's cheering them on somewhere 754 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: in the other world. But it's definitely been a tremendous journey. 755 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: You know, I've loved every minute of it, all the 756 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: ups and downs, everything that comes with it, and uh, 757 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking for more, so I'm here. So 758 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: why did you correct the guy in Canada? You know, 759 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: at the time, I'd be honest, I didn't. I didn't 760 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: think I would stick. I didn't think i'd be there 761 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: very long. I'm like, yeah, you know that this might 762 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: not be a big deal. But then obviously I started 763 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: having success and I was like, well, it's not Brokes, 764 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: So are you superstitious? It's that I wouldn't say I'm superstitious, 765 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: but it was something that was going well. So I'm like, 766 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to upset the apple cart. I'm just 767 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna leave things as they are. And I kind of 768 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: ran with it and it's worked out for me so far. 769 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 1: What does your family call you? Family calls me Direk. 770 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: They still call you Derek. Okay, thirty seven years old, 771 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: You've made a couple of bucks, You've you've done well. 772 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: Why keep doing this? Why is this still important to you? 773 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: You know what? Every day I look in the mirror and, uh, 774 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, gold of mine way back was to maximize 775 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: your potential, you know, and I've always been a person that, 776 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, you want to achieve more than you have 777 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: in the past, you know, beat your best self. It's 778 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of like the mantra, and so you know, every season, 779 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, I kind of look 780 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: in the mirror and say, hey, do you still have 781 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: it in you can you still do more? And the 782 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: answer is yes, you know, I coach sign me up again. 783 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: Um if not the day that, if that day ever comes, 784 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: that'll be the day I hang up the cleats and 785 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: move on. But um, you know, there's still fight left, 786 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: There's still you know, I feel like ability to go 787 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: out there and help teams win. And I still have 788 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: a passion for the game, so you know, all those 789 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: things kind of fit together. My body is still you know, 790 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: in the right place. I still feel good, not waking up, 791 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: moaning and growing, and um, you know, I still love 792 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: the game of football so um that that's what drives me. 793 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: And that guy in the mirror keep telling me to 794 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: keep going forward. So here I am why the Titans 795 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: for Cameron Wake. You know, the Titans organizations has been 796 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: one of the organizations that I have admired from far, 797 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, actually as a as a younger guy. Actually 798 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: uh grew up watching the Freak as a as a 799 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: youth in the Tennessee Titans or a team that I really, 800 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, admired not only the organization, but you 801 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: know the toughness of the teams and the way they 802 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: played the game. So you know, even we just obviously 803 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: played you guys from Miami and the longest game in 804 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: NFL history. Um, just being able to see the team, 805 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: you knew they're going in the right direction and wanting 806 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: to be a part of something that's obviously trending upwards. 807 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: So it seemed like a match me and Evan. What 808 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: does Cameron Wake have left to do? You know what, 809 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of things, like you said from 810 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: the personal standbo you just mentioned to, I've I've gotten 811 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. I've been on Pro Bowls, I've been 812 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: all Pro contracts and all the things that are kind 813 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: of you know, subjective for me for Cameron Wake, but um, 814 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: you know I was I haven't been fortunate enough to 815 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: kind of get any great team success, you know, to 816 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: be standing holding trophies or you know, any kind of 817 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: team accolades. You know, they've kind of slipped my fingers. 818 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: So that's kind of a big thing for me is 819 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: to go out there and make sure that you know, 820 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily about me. It's about everyone going and 821 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: achieving the next level, you know, whether it be division 822 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: and champion, whatever it may be. Holding the trophy up 823 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: and getting the ring is something that that's really important 824 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: to me. Finally, Cameron, you're a pre eminent pass rusher 825 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: in this league. That makes you considered among your peers 826 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: a great player. So when great players switch teams, you 827 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: have that opportunity to impart that work ethic, the secrets, 828 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: all of those sorts of things. As you work with 829 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: Kamalai Kreia, A, Harold Landry, a Sharif Finch, some of 830 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: the really good young pass rushers on this team. What 831 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 1: does it mean to you to come into this room 832 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: and have that opportunity to pass along some of those secrets. 833 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: That's always been something I've kind of held away at 834 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: the top of my priority list. You know, I was 835 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: I was lucky enough when I came in to have 836 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: players like Jason Taylor or Joey Porter who are kind 837 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: of like you know, in the prime later years of 838 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: their careers to have kind of they've gathered so many nuggets, 839 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: so much wisdom playing this game over there, you know, 840 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: storage careers, and you know there were guys who share 841 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: that wisdom. You know, they they pass it on. They 842 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: told me kind of all the little tricks of the trade, 843 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: and you know they've you know, played certain teams ten 844 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: to fifteen times and being able to say, hey, listen, 845 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: this is what this offensive coordinated maybe thinking about, or 846 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: this how you get to this quarterback? And uh, you 847 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: know they shared that with me and being able to 848 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: do the same in return. Um, not only is it 849 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: something I think is important, but I feel like it's 850 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: a responsibility, you know, to pass on that stuff. Um. 851 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: There's so many piece of the game that you can 852 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: only get from actually being on the field, hands on experience, 853 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: and um, you know, you know, it's kind of like 854 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: the saying where you don't you don't you don't diminish 855 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: your own light by lighting another's. Like you take one 856 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: candle light another. They both can shine. They both can shine. So, UM, 857 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: I want everybody to be as successful as possible because 858 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: that only helps, you know, reach my ultimate goal, which 859 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: is team success. So I want everybody out there in 860 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: the most sacks and the most Pro Bowls and the 861 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: most accolades, because that's going to help you know, the 862 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: entirety of the team. All Right, as we wrap up 863 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: this edition of the OTP, Dave McGinnis, I want to 864 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: ask you about edge rushers in the draft. You've studied them, 865 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: you studied them at the combine two part question are 866 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: they numerous and are they numerous enough that the Titans 867 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: could find one on Day two or Day three of 868 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: the draft. They're numerous, But you're going to find different 869 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: types of guys, all right. I mean you've got some 870 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: You've got some guys that are going to be gone 871 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: really really early because if they bring something really special, Okay, 872 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: then you have some guys that are going to be 873 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: good players. They're not going to be difference makers immediately, 874 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: but you're going to be able to find somebody that 875 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: can either stand up or put their hands on the 876 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 1: ground and bring something off the edge. I would say 877 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: at least at least three rounds deep in this draft. Yeah. 878 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: And now the question is how, I mean because you can. 879 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: I've always people have been asking about, Okay, where are 880 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: you going to draft? Where are you going to draft? 881 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: First round? And I said, well, ask me if a 882 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: couple of weeks after free ads it begins, Well, now 883 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: you can kind of see where needs still stand and 884 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: what the biggest needs are. And I think right now, 885 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: edge rush remains one of them. Obviously, intior lineman remains 886 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: one of them, and I defensive liner offense, think both. 887 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: I think both. Yeah, I think intier defensive line an 888 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: old line. So you could still go a number of 889 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: directions if I kind of look through my draft book now, 890 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: there will be some guys earlier you can strike on 891 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: if you'll wait, there will be some talent theory as well. 892 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: And I still think there's some guys available in free 893 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: agency you could still signed to add depth for fun. 894 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite player in this draft? Christian 895 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: Wilkins is one guy that I love, just to listen 896 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: to his Combine interview. Graduating two and a half years 897 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: and uh, communications major. He could uh he could play 898 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: a long career here and then maybe you know, fifteen 899 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: years and then be ready to take your spot. I 900 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 1: guess not coach Max Spot. I need, I need more 901 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: than fifteen years. Maybe maybe he'll have a twenty year 902 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: or maybe he'll take Amy spot. I'll like him, but 903 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: now because you're a good player, but because he just 904 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: seems like he's a great guy. Is he an edge rusher? Uh? No, Okay, 905 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: you think he's going to play down? Yeah, Christian Wilkins, 906 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, Clemson, Amy Wells. Do you have a favorite 907 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: player in this draft? You can't ask me this. You know, 908 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: I get very emotionally attached this time of year. Um, 909 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't yet. I haven't fallen in love with anyone yet. 910 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: It will happen, and it's going to be tragic as 911 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: we get closer to time and I realize that we're 912 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: probably not gonna pick whoever I love. And you can't 913 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: say Jimmy Garoppolo. No. Once I name them, I become 914 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: attached to them. It's a very emotional time of year 915 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: for me. I have to be delicate. Coach Mac, Yeah, 916 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: I really like what Monta sweat brings. I like Manta sweat, 917 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: and I wanta tell you somebody else I really like 918 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: because he's a man child and he's hurt and I 919 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 1: don't care. Jeffrey Simmons, Mississippi State. Yes, I mean defensive lineman. 920 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean this dude. This dude will split your Sternum. 921 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean you want you wonder what his injury. Wouldn't 922 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: wonder what that's gonna do to his UH stock and 923 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: what and what other teams will maybe cause him to 924 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: fall And if he's still hanging around at nineteen, you know, 925 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: I think he's still a first round pick. I think 926 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: He's just too good that even if he has to 927 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: take a red shirt year. I mean, you wouldn't think 928 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: he's available till November of this year at the earliest, 929 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: having the ACL surgery. Maybe he's a quick healer, who knows, 930 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: but I still think he's a first round pick. He 931 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: is a He and Quinnon Williams are right at the 932 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: top of just being those freaky interior Quinnin Williams from 933 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: Alabama is so special. Different kind of dudes, yeah, the 934 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: really different kind. Different kind of players play the same position, 935 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: but totally different types of players. You know you want 936 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: to get into Quinnon Williams. Quinnon Williams is so unique 937 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: because he is a big guy, but he is slippery 938 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: for a big guy, and a lot of times you 939 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: don't get that. He can move his feet within a 940 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: short confined area. He's got great hand usage, and plus 941 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: he is young, young, young. Quinnin Williams is special, all right. 942 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: How do they follow you on Twitter? Amy Wills at 943 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: Titans Amy am I E M Jim I'm at j 944 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: Wyatt Sports And of course you can follow him certainly 945 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: at Titans online dot com. With the great articles that 946 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: he has about everything. He's covering which right now is 947 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: just anything and everything. Jim White, thank you, Thank you, 948 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: Amy Wells, thank you. Thanks Mike and Dave McGinnis. Thank 949 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: you for hosting the Mac and three OTP. This is 950 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: our second one. I like this got good. The first 951 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: one got good. Response, well this will be better. The 952 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: young people thought it was great. The young people like 953 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: the MAC and three OTP for Jim, Amy and Coach Mac. 954 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: Mike Keat says, thanks for listening to the O t 955 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: PE