1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to a numbers game, Brian Gerdowski, this is our 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: mini episode. I know a lot of listeners to the 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: show are probably saying, what is like a mini episode? 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: You've never done this? Well for special incidences where there's 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: a breaking news moment that I can't get to in 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: the preceding episode. Tomorrow's episode is already recorded with Ann Kulter, 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: but we're not talking about the ice shrety Minneapolis, and 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: I think that needs to be addressed from me. I'm 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: sure most of you know what happened, but if you don't, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll brief everybody on the situation. On Saturday, federal agent 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis shot and killed a thirty seven year old 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: nurse named Alex Jeffrey pretty pretty or pretty I don't 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: know the pronunciation of the last name, but pretty is 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: how I'll say it. Of course, there was video evidence 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: which shows Alex pretty resisting arrest. There there's about half 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: a dozen federal Ice agents on top of him trying 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: to do him. Clearly was a very strong man. They 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: have him down when one of the agents discovers a 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: gun on him. The man was carrying a nine millimeter handgun, 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: a very expensive gun. I might add when it was 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: discovered that he had the gun, the agent who sees 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: it and takes it from him screams the word gun, 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: and another agent hearing the word gun at that point, 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I guess in the confusion and in the moment fires 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: the gun and shoots mister pretty multiple times, killing him. 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Secretary of DHS Christine nom came out of the statement saying, 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: mister Pritty was there to kill ICE agents or hurt 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: ICE agents. He wasn't from Minneapolis and this area specifically, 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: and he was actually carrying the gun illegally for Minneapolis law, which, 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: according to that local losses you need to have an 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: idea on you while carrying a firearm. Of course, the 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: left is insisting that this was a public execution by 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: ICE agents carrying out and calling them gestapo and you know, 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: using a bunch of dehumanizing language. Here's what you need 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: to know. First of all, as someone who's been extremely 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: supportive ICE and President Trump's immigration policy, I need to 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: speak candle, and honestly, I think there was a lot 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: of mistakes by ICE officers. I don't think it was intentional. 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: I think that in the moment with whistles going off 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: with fighting with shoving each other and you hear the 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: word gun. I think he acted on instinct, but I 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: think it was a mistake. This is not the same 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: as the Renee Goods case where she was charging her 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: car towards Ice agents and she made a lot of 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: bad decisions that led to her untimely death. This situation escalated. 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: It was escalating in park because Alex Preddy had this scuffle. 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: He refused to rest, but he didn't do anything that 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: deserved him getting shot and killed. I spoke to my 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: good friend who's a criminal defense attorney who was very 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: sympathetic towards mister Pretty and a supporter of President Trump's, 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: and she said, quote, if you have a firearm and 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: it's a legal firearm, as was the case mister Pretty, 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: and you get into a conflict with law enforcement and 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: they decide to detain you, even if you think that 55 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: they are wrong, do not resist. But if you have 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: a gun, you should say so, don't resist. Let them 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: disarm you, even if you were lawfully armed. And even 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: if you're lawfully armed, they will view it as a 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: threat while they tried to detain you, So you should 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: declare that you're lawfully armed. Let them detain you and 61 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: then get arrested. Do not resist. Mister Pretty's decision to 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: resist to arrest was a mistake on his part. I'm 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: not saying he deserved all the blame that that led 64 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: to his death, but we need to acknowledge that his 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: decision to resist arrest, to get into that scuffle, to 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: fight with Ice agents or Border patrol agents rather, and 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: to not declare that he had a firearm was part 68 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: of the dominoes, many of the dominoes that led to 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: his death. Secondly, a lot of conservatives are making nonsense 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: arguments about the gun, the style of gun. You know, 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: if he was allowed to have a firearm near law enforcement, 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of what I'm hearing in low what 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm seeing is nonsense. You absolutely have a right to 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: legally own a firearm and possess it near law enforcement. 75 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Do not start falling for these anti Second Amendment arguments 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: about legal gun ownership. You can have a firearm, but 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: you should declare it if you are being detained. You 78 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: should not resist arrest. Those are two important points, but 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: they are separate from the fact that you get too 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: legally own a firearm in this country. Do not fall 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: for anti Second Amendment arguments right now. What DHS Secretary 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Christine Noms said in response to the shooting, but I 83 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: need is an absolute disgrace. I need to make that 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: point very very clear. We have no idea what mister 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Pritty's intention was. He was an American citizen who had 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: every legal right to legally own a firearm. He may 87 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: not have known the law in the municipality pertaining to 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: carrying an idea, but that's not why he was shot. 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: What Border Control Chief Greg Bovino has said about him 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: carrying a firearm a Christie nom has said, are not 91 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: making the situation any better. There was a scuffle. You 92 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't have resisted arrest. There was a lot of chaos. 93 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: He was part of an activist group seeking to cause chaos. 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he should have died. He was not 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: pointing the weapon at the officers. His mistake was resisting arrest. 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: His mistake was not declaring he had a firearm. He 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: made mistakes, but those are not being acknowledged. They are 98 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: trying to gaslight people right now, and it's extremely unhelpful, 99 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: not only to the agents on the ground, but to 100 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: the agency as a whole. While they're discussing whether or 101 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: not they're going to continue funding. Christine nom and her 102 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: very close advisor, Corey Lewandowski's decision back back in October 103 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: to marginalize todd Lyons and orders are Tom Holman that 104 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: wanted to focus focus specifically on criminality and people with 105 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: final deportation orders, has done a lot of damage to 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: the agency back in October. According to Fox News, to 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: senior officials describe the mood of d just as intense 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: and combative, with some isoladers warning the new approach would 109 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: e road public support and blur the lines between ICE 110 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: and Border Patrol operations. And that's exactly what's happened. I 111 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: started off with the worst of the worst, knowing their 112 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: targets and hitting them, but since Border Patrol came to 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: LA in June, they've lost focus. This is the quote 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: from the Fox News article, going too fast, too hard, 115 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: with limited prioritization. Is it getting numbers, Yes, but at 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: what cost? I think Christy Nome was partially rife for 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: increasing activities within the homeland outside of just criminality, outside 118 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: of just people final deportation orders, but it's been a 119 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: little haphazard, and I think at this point christi nom 120 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: has made too many mistakes and the stakes are too high. 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: She should step down from her position at this point. 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: The agency is too important, Mass deportations are too important. 123 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: She's not doing President Trump's administration or the goals of 124 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: mass deportation any favors with these public statements. It's just 125 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: her choice to smear the reputation of a dead American 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: citizen whose politics I may not agree with, is disgraceful. 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: We don't know his attention. He did make mistakes, he 128 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: did resist arrest, he didn't declare firearm. There was a 129 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: heat of the moment. There were a lot of activities 130 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: on the part of ICE agents. There was someone screwing 131 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the word gun and they mistaken it for the fire 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: for him being able having a gun and firing at him. 133 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: That's why he got killed. She's not doing anyone any 134 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: favors because we can all see the videotape, including herself, 135 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: including the President. Lastly, and most importantly, the activists left, 136 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: including politicians like Tim Wolls, have made this moment this 137 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: terrible moment by the way possible. These agitators are creating 138 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: a frenzy within the general public, making it very difficult 139 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: for ICE officers to do their job and waiting for 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: mistakes like this to happen to jump on it. Cam Higby, 141 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: a independent journalist, infiltrated the Minneapolis signal chat where activists 142 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: are on the ground communicating about how to stop ICE. Allegedly, 143 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: even local police are involved in this effort to stop ICE. Mayors, 144 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: local DA's, local police chiefs, governors. They are not presidents. 145 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: They do not have the right to pick and chose 146 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: which immigration laws they follow. By refusing to follow ICE 147 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: attainers and working with the president, they are creating the 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: tinderbox and lighting the match. The President cannot in this 149 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: moment show the sign of weakness that local anarchists have 150 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: the ability to push out federal agents from cities. If 151 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: the signal chat is real and they are able to 152 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: discover who these local actists are communicating about how to 153 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: stop federal agents and are making them into making their 154 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: own activists into martyrs, they need to be stopped by 155 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Law enforcement must do anything and everything to 156 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: stop them where they are carrying out the law. The 157 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: left is making the situation what it is and we 158 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: shouldn't forget that. And to my mostly concervative audience, if 159 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: you are like me, and you're really bothered by these images. 160 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: I was really bothered by what I saw with the 161 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: shooting of mister Pritty. I mean, I'll just say, last 162 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: night before bed, I prayed for him. I prayed for 163 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: the ICE agents out there, pray for border patrol. But 164 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: I I also then took a second look. I took 165 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: a second look at the images of hundreds of thousands 166 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: of illegal aliens who were let into this country by 167 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden. And I'm sorry this country was invaded. 168 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: It was invaded for four continuous years. Watch those images. 169 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: If you're having a moment saying maybe we should ramp 170 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: down mass deportations, maybe we should back away from that 171 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: campaign promise. And so my listeners on the left, I 172 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: understand your outrage. I understand, and I sympathize with a 173 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: lot of what you're feeling and what you're saying. But 174 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: we cannot stop mass deportations until all these people are 175 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: sent back. That's just how it is. You cannot allow 176 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: an invasion of your country and then turn around and say, well, 177 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: let's just forget it. Let all those people who broke 178 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the law, them millions who broke the law, that them 179 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: stay we need smart and decisive action that leads to 180 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: more mass deportations. And we're getting there, and that's the 181 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: bigger goal. And if you're angry, and you're a progressive, 182 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: and you're even a centrist and you're angry, you need 183 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: to remember in this moment, you've ever right to legal 184 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: in a gun, you have every right to legal protest 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: you or every right to legally make your voices heard. 186 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: You don't have a right to stop ICE agents doing 187 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: their job. You don't have You don't have a legal 188 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,479 Speaker 1: right to physically assault ICE agents or Border patrol agents. 189 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: There is no honor in being a martyr for anarchists. 190 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: So President Trump needs to make some very important decisions 191 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: about who leads this agency because at the rate that 192 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: we're going, with the negative images that are coming out 193 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: in the field, Christy Noman is doing immense damage to 194 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: the agency and activists are looking for it. A activists 195 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: on the left are looking for these moments. It is 196 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: very important this time to make sure, even if it 197 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: involves having an insurrection Act and sending in the military 198 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: to stop activists, ICE agents can do its job. Do 199 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: which job, declare victory and move on. Right, That's the 200 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: entire goal declare victory move on ICE is to port 201 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: one thousands of people from Minneapolis alone. I'm sure they're 202 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: getting very close to their target of how may they 203 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: want it import until? But that should be the moment, 204 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: right now and here from all operations should be smart, tactical, 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: decisive in and out. It shouldn't be minneappols should not 206 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: be messier than Venezuela. It shouldn't. It should be messier 207 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: than the attacks and the wrong and for some reason, 208 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: our internal law enforcement is become messier than our foreign policy. 209 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give Mark Ruby a one more job, 210 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: but somebody needs to lead the agency who knows how 211 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: to lead the agency and win back levels a public support. 212 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: I hope you're all doing well in this moment. I 213 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: hope you're all staying warm. I hope you're all staying safe, 214 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: and I hope at Lberry least you're all trying to 215 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: stay safe. 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