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Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. President Trump doubles down

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Speaker 1: on a plan to possibly send migrants crossing the border

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Speaker 1: illegally two sanctuary city jurisdictions. Plus the fight over the

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Speaker 1: definition of spine continues because the left doesn't own a dictionary,

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Speaker 1: it seems, or they're just really dishonest. We've got that,

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Speaker 1: plus a whole string of fantastic Freestyle Friday guests for

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the

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Speaker 1: mission or mission is to decode what really matters with

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Speaker 1: actionable intelligence. Make no mistake America, You're a great American Again,

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show begins, He's a great guy. We

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Speaker 1: are giving very strong consideration to having people after a

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Speaker 1: twenty day period, because again you're not allowed legally to

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Speaker 1: hold them for more than that. We will move them

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Speaker 1: into sanctuary cities. California certainly is always saying, oh, we

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Speaker 1: sanctuary cities. Well, we'll give them more people. We can

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Speaker 1: give them a lot, we can give them an unlimited supply,

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Speaker 1: and let's see if they're so happy. They say, we

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Speaker 1: Let's see if they have open arms. The alternative is

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Speaker 1: to change the laws that we can do it very

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Speaker 1: very quickly, very easily. Okay, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: President Trump not messing around on this one. I have

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Speaker 1: it's all you need, Ninth Circuit says, and therefore it

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Speaker 1: But here we are. Congress isn't going to act. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats love this. They see the future of the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party slipping away. They see the Democrats a one

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Speaker 1: party state increasingly looking like a reality. You know, there

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Speaker 1: because it is lawlessness. It's wrong, It undermines, if not

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Speaker 1: But Democrats just say, oh, we're a nation of immigrants.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, no problem at all. Now, why

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Speaker 1: so we can't separate parents from their kids. That's too harsh,

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Speaker 1: mayor of a sanctuary city. We believe sanctuary cities are

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Speaker 1: frustrated with the lack of results, which are very real,

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Speaker 1: promises that don't come through, and so they just they

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Speaker 1: don't have to vote for, you know, some commie leftist.

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Speaker 1: They can just not show up for Trump. And let's

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Speaker 1: say you have you know who knows, you know, Beto O'Rourke.

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Speaker 1: Although his odds are looking pretty long right now, that

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Speaker 1: could change he wins. Then they're going to push for

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Speaker 1: an amnesty. You know, they're going to push for an amnesty.

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Speaker 1: That will be the only fix that they want to

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Speaker 1: talk about, and if they have the votes in the Congress,

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Speaker 1: they will do it. At that point, the country will

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Speaker 1: have tipped forever in the direction of there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with the legal immigration, particularly from Latin America. It is

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Speaker 1: as Americans as anything else could ever be. And this

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Speaker 1: issue will be done because we will have lost. That

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Speaker 1: is not a projection for ten years out. We're going

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Speaker 1: to figure this out in the next eighteen months, whether

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Speaker 1: that's coming true or not. If the Democrats win, it

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Speaker 1: will be all in on amnesty, and if they get amnesty,

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Speaker 1: we won't have to talk about amnesty again because America

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Speaker 1: will be an open borders country. We will have the

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Speaker 1: free flow of people across our southern border, and the

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Speaker 1: notion of kicking people out of the immigration because of

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Speaker 1: immigration violations will just become a fantasy. Those are the

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Speaker 1: stakes right now. I wish it wasn't so, my friends,

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Speaker 1: but that's where we are. I've got a whole lineup

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Speaker 1: of fantastic guests. We've got Ami Horowitz, Inez Felcher, the

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Speaker 1: writer and director of Unplanned, So stick around team, We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot more show coming your way. Standing here

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Speaker 1: at the border, that family separation will never be reinstated.

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Speaker 1: The President made it very clear this week we're not

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Speaker 1: rethinking bringing back family separation, but it's absolutely essential to

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Speaker 1: end a humanitarian crisis that really threatens the security of

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Speaker 1: the American people and is creating hardship on both sides

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Speaker 1: of our border. Congress needs to act. Vice President Pence

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Speaker 1: is correct that Congress needs to act, and I'm correct

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Speaker 1: when I tell you Congress is not going to act.

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Speaker 1: So where does that leave us. I've seen and been

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Speaker 1: subject to a lot of the talking points this week,

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Speaker 1: and the talking points have all focused on how the

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Speaker 1: Republicans are heartless and cruel. This is a time worn

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Speaker 1: tactic by Democrats. This is what we expect from them.

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Speaker 1: They can't really make their argument about immigration to the

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Speaker 1: American people because their argument is there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration. There's no downside to illegal immigration. They would

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Speaker 1: like to see illegal immigration continue. They will oppose all

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Speaker 1: efforts to stop illegal immigration, but they won't say that,

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Speaker 1: they'll just act in that manner. And so how do

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Speaker 1: they then shift the narrative burden so that they don't

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Speaker 1: have to make the case right, so that they don't

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Speaker 1: have to even tell the American people how they feel

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Speaker 1: about this? Oh, that's right, Republicans are mean, they're bad.

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Speaker 1: Look at the family separation issue. It was so terrible.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Meanwhile, the same media that is now

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Speaker 1: so focused on family separation that has been was only

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Speaker 1: in place for a few weeks and ended nine months ago.

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Speaker 1: That same media is just now finally coming around to

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Speaker 1: the very obvious recognition that there is a massive migrant

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Speaker 1: surge at our border and that the sovereignty of the

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Speaker 1: United States is disappearing day by day. Play seven. I

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Speaker 1: think the President and I appreciate the fact that people

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Speaker 1: around the country, and even many people in the media,

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Speaker 1: are now beginning to recognize that we have a genuine

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Speaker 1: crisis at our southern border. On Tuesday four thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: people came across our border illegally along the southern border

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Speaker 1: in its entirety, the vast majority of those people were

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Speaker 1: families and unaccompanied miners being driven by human traffickers and

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Speaker 1: drug cartels that are exploiting these vulnerable families, and they're

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Speaker 1: exploiting loopholes in our laws. That's what's happening. Do Democrats

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Speaker 1: have any response for this, anything that they would like

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Speaker 1: to see happen, or any any ideas that come to

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Speaker 1: mind to prevent this from continuing. Now, They've got nothing

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Speaker 1: because they like this. The status quo is something that

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Speaker 1: they favor. I think the Vice President is a good

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Speaker 1: surrogate on this issue. He has a calm and calm

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Speaker 1: yet serious demeanor, which is what you need here. And

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Speaker 1: I've noticed they've started to go after Vice President Pence

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Speaker 1: a little bit more specifically Vice President Pence getting attacked

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Speaker 1: by the guy called Mayor Pete Pete Buddha judge. Here

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Speaker 1: is what the mayor said about Biden. Play three. I'm

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Speaker 1: not interested in feuding with the Vice president, but if

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Speaker 1: he wanted to clear this up, he could come out

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Speaker 1: today and say he's changed his mind that it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be legal to discriminate against anybody in this country for

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Speaker 1: who they are. That's all. Yeah, Now he's he's saying

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Speaker 1: that he's a Pence. He's saying Pence is a bigot.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. And this goes to the religious

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Speaker 1: freedom issues that are still very much undecided in this country.

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Speaker 1: The courts will have to see which way they go.

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Speaker 1: And I know you know how I feel about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, from a constitutional perspective, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: very clear that you should not be able to force

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Speaker 1: somebody to engage in speech. For example, right, you know this,

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Speaker 1: this is the decorating a cake for a gay wedding

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Speaker 1: versus selling a cake to a gay couple. Selling a

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Speaker 1: cake to a couple, No, you're selling a cake. That

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Speaker 1: is not That is not speech. But you know, making

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Speaker 1: somebody engage in expression of ideas that should be protected

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Speaker 1: by the first end. But you know the left considers

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Speaker 1: that to be big at it. And here's what a

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Speaker 1: Vice President Pence has to say in response to Mayor Pete.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've known Mayor Pete for many years and

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Speaker 1: he knows I don't have a problem with him. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe in discrimination against anybody. I treat everybody the

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Speaker 1: way that I want to be treated. And do you

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Speaker 1: agree with him that God meet him gay? Look, the

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Speaker 1: truth of the matter is that all of us have

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Speaker 1: our own religious convictions. Pete has his convictions. I have mine. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: he argues that your quarrel is with him as a

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Speaker 1: way and this is the way God made me. That's

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Speaker 1: just not your belief. Well, I think I think peace

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Speaker 1: quarrels with First Amendment. All of us in this country.

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Speaker 1: I have the right to our religious beliefs. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Bible believing Christian, So that's the President engage with his

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Speaker 1: critics on this issue, but they're obviously trying to well.

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Speaker 1: For Mayor Pete, of course, to punch up at the

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Speaker 1: Vice President the United States when you're the mayor of

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Speaker 1: South Bend, Indiana, that that certainly elevates his profile, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's he might have taken the betto Lane

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Speaker 1: in the Democrat primary. I really believe that. I think

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Speaker 1: that Mayor Pete is eating Bettos lunch. That was like

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Speaker 1: Mayor Pete, like, there's enough sandwich for both of us

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Speaker 1: if you just like cut it down the middle, but

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Speaker 1: like I won't the extra mustard because like I like mustard.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a Mayor Pete impression. I should probably

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Speaker 1: work on a Mayor Pete impression. I'm gonna be in

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Speaker 1: Indiana this weekend speaking of Mayor Pete and Vice President Pence,

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Speaker 1: some of you who are going to be hearing this,

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Speaker 1: hopefully on Woe Woe Out in Fort Wayne, Indiana tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I will be at Talk Tank. Assuming all the flights

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Speaker 1: line up on time, it's going to be a kind

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Speaker 1: of tight turnaround, but as of now, the expectation is

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Speaker 1: it'll be good to go. I will be in Fort Wayne, India,

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Speaker 1: Anna tomorrow and if you have not already, please go

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Speaker 1: just type in WOWO Fort Wayne and on Google and

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Speaker 1: you'll pop up and you go to Talk Tank. You

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Speaker 1: or if you're in the Indiana area, just happen to

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Speaker 1: probably not for you. But there we haven't. Our two

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Speaker 1: the United States, in a dog whistle to Sean Hannity,

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Speaker 1: is a big deal spying. Why does Trump, at his cronies,

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Speaker 1: including What to Do AG use that word. It increasingly

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Speaker 1: looks like he is doing the president's dirty work here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that the left has

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Speaker 1: gone crazy other than to just say it, what is

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Speaker 1: what is this guy's well? How? How are you even

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Speaker 1: supposed to have a discussion with these people? What happened

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Speaker 1: is spying. There's there's no other way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: There's no uh, you know, you could call a uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, someone's chest pains a coronary you know, a

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Speaker 1: coronary aberration that could lead to death, or you could

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Speaker 1: call it a heart attack. Both are true. And clandestine

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Speaker 1: surveillance of an individual's communications by a government entity is spying.

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Speaker 1: This is a definitional truth. This is not a oh

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Speaker 1: I think or maybe or and yet you've seen people

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Speaker 1: running around saying the absolute dumbest stuff on this one.

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Speaker 1: Do we have Comy Sank to come on this, because

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Speaker 1: because Comy was running around saying that, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is oh clip two, yeah play it. I really don't

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Speaker 1: know what he's talking about when he talks about spying

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Speaker 1: on the campaign, and so I I can't really react

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Speaker 1: substantively when I hear that kind of language used. It's

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Speaker 1: concerning because the FBI, the Department Justice conduct court ordered

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Speaker 1: electronic surveillance. I have never thought of that as spying.

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Speaker 1: If the Attorney General has come to the belief that

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Speaker 1: that should be called spying, wow, that's going to require

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of conversations inside the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what he meant by that tournament. Factually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he meant because I don't know

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Speaker 1: of any electronic surveillance aimed cord order electronic surveillance aimed

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Speaker 1: at the Trump campaign. This is gaslighting of the worst kind.

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Speaker 1: You don't know did that the FBI director who was

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Speaker 1: at the FBI signing off on this stuff, saying he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know of anything really, Because they had a FISA

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Speaker 1: warrant for Carter Page because of his ties to Trump.

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Speaker 1: They ran informants to George Papadopoulos. They use national security letters,

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Speaker 1: which do not go to a judge. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this was reported on in the media. They use nation

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Speaker 1: security letters to get the personal communications and information of

644
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Speaker 1: individuals that they had suspicion. They use and they see

645
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: this is where they're playing the games. This was not

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: a standard law enforcement operation. This is very important because

647
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: the slimy liars out there are going to try and

648
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: mislead you on this. They're gonna try to convince you

649
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: like Comy, like Clapper. They're going to tell you, oh, no,

650
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: this was court ordered. This is court ordered. Yeah, guess what.

651
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Guess what it was through the FISA chord, a secret

652
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: court set up for counter intelligence purposes, not law enforcement purposes.

653
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: This is not traditional Fourth Amendment stuff. This is the

654
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: very narrow area of law where national security imperative effectively nullifies,

655
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: let's be honest about it, the Fourth Amendment. This is sorry,

656
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: there's a ticking time bomb somewhere. If we've got to

657
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: cut off your finger to get the answer to the

658
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: code to turn it off, that's what we're gonna do. Meeting.

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Speaker 1: This is essentially an inextremist basis for surveilling people. This

660
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: is the oh my gosh, you know, to stop a

661
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: terrorist attack or to stop a spy from infult the

662
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: United States government, we go to the fies Accord. You know,

663
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Speaker 1: you don't go to the fires accord for a drug deal.

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Speaker 1: You don't go to the fires Accord. For someone who's

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00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: doing white collar fraud. This is not traditional criminal casework

666
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: at all. And what we've seen is that the fires

667
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Accord is a rubber stamp you're taking to the court.

668
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: They say, well, you know, I'm not going to stand

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00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: in the way of national security. Sure, go for it.

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00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: But this was a counter intelligence operation, not a traditional

671
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: law enforcement operation. Counter Intelligence means in the realm of

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00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: intelligence gathering, dissemination, and espionage, which means spying. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: some of you may say, well, Buck, yeah, you work

674
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: the CIA, but you know Clapper and call me. They've

675
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: been doing this for decades. Yeah. I hate to be

676
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: the one to break into some folks out there, but

677
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: the Deep States not sending us their best. That's one

678
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: of the things that's been exposed in all this. Not

679
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: only are they partisans, they're really not very bright or talented.

680
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: They're bureaucrats. They're hacks. And if you need more evidence

681
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: for that, all I can do is just point you

682
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: to some of the things that they've said. John Brennan,

683
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: former CIA director, took issue with the idea that the

684
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: CIA steal secrets. This was public You just said, oh no,

685
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: we don't steal we cajole, we induce we actually know

686
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: you egit, you do steal secrets, you do steal information.

687
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: It's not and we have we have authority to do

688
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: this in specific circumstances to other countries and other individuals.

689
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: But you don't do it to Americans. Why, because it's spying.

690
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: CI is not supposed to spy on Americans. And what

691
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: we found out now is that really the FBI is

692
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: also not supposed to spy on Americans except under very

693
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: narrow circumstances and it goes through the FISA court. But

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Speaker 1: it is spying. There's no way around this. There's no

695
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: there's no serious discussion to be had with people that

696
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: try to suggest that this is somehow not what happened.

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00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a rewriting of history that we

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00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: just simply cannot allow. There's there's no common ground on

699
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: the oh, well, was there spying or was there not spying?

700
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: Of course there was spying, and that they're so desperate

701
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: to try to regain the the high ground on this

702
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: issue somehow as to just just deny obvious facts in

703
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: history tells you about where they really are on This

704
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: tells you about the desperation. I mean, you know. Here's

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00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: here's Chuck Schumer, for example, weighing in Play fifteen. When

706
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: someone has given real information that Russia interfered with our elections,

707
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: of course they're supposed to look into it. That's part

708
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: of their job. For mister Barr to label this as spying,

709
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: echoing some of the worst conspiracy theorists in the country,

710
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: he loses all credibility, and that credibility is vital because

711
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: he'll be issuing a report with redaction. So much dishonesty

712
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: from Schumer. But Schumer is among the slimiest. He's savvy

713
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: in his own his own me first, Chuck Schumer interests

714
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: before all else. Whegh, but he's very slimy. Muller is

715
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: working hand in glove with far on these redactions. To

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00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: suggest that the redactions will be politicized is to undermine

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00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: the entire process and to show that they were never

718
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: serious about Muller as someone that they really trusted and

719
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: care about. That was just useful at the time. That

720
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: was just what they said when they had to say it.

721
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: They they fundamentally do not care whether the process is

722
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: honest or not. They just want a process that allows

723
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: them to bash Trump, to hurt the Republicans. James Clapper.

724
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: James Clapper is out there now trying to clean up

725
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: the mess that he was a part of making. He's

726
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: not just an analyst on this. And this is also

727
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: where I think there's been so much dishonesty and a

728
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: lack of transparency on the part of the big media organizations.

729
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: It's one thing to bring somebody. Look, I'm one who

730
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: used to work in the CIA, obviously at a low level,

731
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: but I worked on some important issues and know a

732
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of stuff about those issues, right, But I was

733
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: never going on TV talking about the specifics of cases

734
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: that I worked on or or you know, individuals that

735
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: I you know, covered as part of my expertise, or

736
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: any of that. I mean, it was always at the

737
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: very general policy level, and it's about where I think,

738
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, the direction of the country should go on

739
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: those issues. Not well, when I was working on this

740
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: at this time, doing this thing, Clapper and Brennan and Comey,

741
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: these were the guys signing off on the spying. These

742
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: were I mean, this is why, you know, it's unprecedented

743
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: what they did to turn right around from being Intel

744
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: chief to partisan attack dog on issues they worked on

745
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: while they were in the intelligence community. This is dramatically

746
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: undermined the faith that future commanders in chief will be

747
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: able to have in whomever there. That's right. Spy chiefs

748
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: are damage from this will last for a long time,

749
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: but they're now in cleanup mode because they realize Bar

750
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: he's going to have access. He's gonna be able to

751
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: see everything. He's gonna know what's really happened, what really

752
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: happened here, and he's not scared of these people. He's

753
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: not going to back down. This guy, Bar is a

754
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: pro and they realize they're not gonna be able to

755
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: shake him or throw him off this. There's a really

756
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: big problem that he's looking into. And that's why he

757
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: got Clapper running around. This was just earlier today trying

758
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: to explain, Okay, well maybe there was spying, but here's

759
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: what well, here's why there were spying sixteen to the

760
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: extent that there was surveillance of anyone and had it

761
00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: was occasioned by contacts with Russians who were targets validated

762
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: foreign intelligence targets, and we sort of lost sight of

763
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: that and the threat of the Russians posed because that's

764
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: how this all started, is the Russian meddling, the Russian meddling,

765
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: which was so minimal in terms of impact that when

766
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Obama knew about it in the summer of twenty sixteen,

767
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: when it was brought to his attention, you know what,

768
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: he chose to do nothing. Nothing. Meddling in elections through

769
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: propaganda has been going on since the early days in

770
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: this country, since the early days of the KGB. The

771
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: only difference now is that it's happening with Facebook puppets

772
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: instead of or sock puppets on Facebook instead of a

773
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: newspaper that's getting funding from the communists. But that was

774
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: all happening. It's been happening for a long time. No

775
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: votes were changed, the election was not thrown, but they

776
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: after the fact, needed to create a narrative that would

777
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: have supported all the things that they were doing to

778
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: try to destroy Trump from within the government. Let's be

779
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: very clear about the facts. A Democrat administration of Barack

780
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Obama had its political appointees at the very top the

781
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: apex of the National Security Apparatus open up a spying

782
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: investigation on President Trump's campaign on flimsy partisan evidence that

783
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: was never verified, that was unvetted, and then once they

784
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: began it They were invested in the righteousness of their

785
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: cause such that even when it should have been clear

786
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: to any person with two brain cells rub together that

787
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: there was no collision between Trump and Russia, they kept

788
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: going and kept going, and then they leaked selectively to

789
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: the press. Then they worked with their allies and the

790
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: media and the Democrat National Committee to get this storyline

791
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: out there to freak out half the Democrats and give

792
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: the other half of Democrats who were smart enough to

793
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: not buy into this. Or maybe it's the other one

794
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: tenth of Democrats who were smart enough to know this

795
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: was all nonsense, a cynical excuse for why Hillary laws

796
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: that they were all too happy to latch onto. That

797
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: is what happened here. That is why we cannot allow

798
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: them to shift the narrative, to change this around, to

799
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: pretend that history isn't what in fact we know it

800
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: to be. I've got some more on this team. We'll

801
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: hit a quick I've we got to stay on this

802
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll be right back. Thank god, we

803
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: have an attorney general who calls spine for what it is.

804
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: In late twenty fifteen early twenty sixteen, Spine began on

805
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign that information leaked that led to what

806
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: they considered to be legal spine that began that they've

807
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: acknowledged that they'd started doing in at the end of July.

808
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: Legal spine doesn't make it doesn't make it right just

809
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: because at the time it was legal. You know, a

810
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: lot of things have been legal that weren't right, so

811
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: we can there's there's different ways to approach this problem.

812
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: But even if they stayed data within the the technical

813
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: discretion that they had to open up a case like this,

814
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: the lack of transparency in that process, and the lack

815
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: of good judgment and the checks and balances that are

816
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: supposed to prevent exactly this kind of abuse is breathtaking.

817
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: It really is. And I'm very sure that the Democrats

818
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: are going to have some explaining to do, and Komey

819
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: and Clapper and Brennan are going to have a lot

820
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: of people they're asking them questions that they don't want

821
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: to answer about just how the heck had got to

822
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: the point that you had three FISA renewals against Carter Page,

823
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: that you had this guy Stephen Halper sitting down for

824
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: a conversation with George Papadopolis and really inviting the conversation,

825
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: and then we were being told by the New York Times,

826
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Speaker 1: if memory serves that, because Papadopolis said that maybe there

827
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: were some emails coming, which is a rumor that I

828
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: had heard. Everyone had heard this, it got out there

829
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: that they opened up a full FBI field investigation on

830
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: They sent the FBI to go investigate this and look

831
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: at this right away. I mean, they really believed all

832
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: of this, you know. I think that part of what

833
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: drives the dishonesty here. I think one of the major

834
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: problems that has to be addressed is that there's a

835
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: sense of embarrassment. There should be a sense of embarrassment.

836
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: There's a real sense of embarrassment from the people who

837
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: went along with this, who were supposed to be professionals.

838
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: They'll never admit this publicly, but I have a hard

839
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:09,959
Speaker 1: time believing that Andy McCabe is really or Sally Yates

840
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: is really as stupid and naive and easy to mislead

841
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: as they would have to be to think this is

842
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: all true. I mean, I don't think that Sally Yates

843
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: is so dumb, and she escapes a lot of criticism

844
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: on this. You know. I've always been very watch out

845
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: for Sally Yates. Remember she was the hashtag resistance acting

846
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: Attorney General who refused refused to enforce the travel band.

847
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, she was the one who just said, I'm

848
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Speaker 1: not I'm not doing that. Remember the travel band was

849
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: upheld by the Supreme Court. So interesting that she was

850
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: so certain that this was not something that should have

851
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: been done. Now. I know there are various iterations of

852
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: the travel band, but she didn't say we need to

853
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: adjust the travel band. She said not doing it. She

854
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: was also the one who came up with the pretext

855
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Speaker 1: for the General Flint interview of the Logan Act. This

856
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: is straight out of the a federal prosecutor can indice

857
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: a ham Sandwich playbook. The Logan Act is so vague

858
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: and so unconstitutional as a law that no serious prosecutor,

859
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: no serious prosecutor, has ever ever brought a Logan Act

860
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: case against an individual in this country. I think there

861
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Speaker 1: might have been one in like the eighteen hundreds or

862
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, nobody would bring this up today.

863
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: But it was the that was the pretext for an interview.

864
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: Sally Ates is not stupid. She just knew that that

865
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Speaker 1: was the cover, and that's what's been going on here.

866
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh well, maybe maybe we didn't tell them that the

867
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Speaker 1: DNC dossier, the DNC funded Christopher Steel dossier, was oppo research,

868
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: But you know, we told them that there was there

869
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: was private money behind it. You know, we told them

870
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

871
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they were just they know the bureaucratic system

872
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: well enough that they were able to move this along

873
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: when any clear minded, intelligent human being, at every step

874
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: of this process you should have said, not only is

875
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: this on flimsy evidence, not only are we opening a

876
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: spine campaign with just fantasies underlying the whole thing, but

877
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: we're doing it in a presidential election against a campaign

878
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: this should have been considered nuclear level waste, radioactive stuff.

879
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: You better be darn sure you've got this locked down.

880
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: And not only was it not locked down, it was

881
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: all just a fraud. They try to defraud the American

882
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: people of Trump's victory. That's what they were doing. Our

883
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: first order of business is to present Planned Parenthood's Employee

884
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: of the Year Award, Babby Johnson. I'd be the youngest

885
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: director and Planned Parenthood history. You'll actually be in charge

886
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: of the abortions at your clinic. I have a chance

887
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: to make a real difference. God, no matter what you

888
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: do for the rest of your life, you're still gonna

889
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: be a baby killer. The only thing that's changed is you.

890
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: Abby can even hear yourself talk right now about these procedures.

891
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: These are little babies. But the one thing that all

892
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: experts agree on is that at this stage the fetus

893
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: can't fill anything. Sorry to bother you, but they need

894
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: an extra person in the back room. I saw it.

895
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: It was like it was twisted in fighting for his life.

896
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: That is the trailer from the movie Unplanned that is

897
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: out in theaters now and is surprising at least the

898
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: mainstream media with how well it's doing, which means how

899
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: well it has been attended. People want to see this movie.

900
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: It's about the story of former plan parent, her director

901
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: Abby Johnson, and her conversion to a pro life advocate.

902
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: We're now joined by the writer and director team for

903
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: the movie Unplanned, Chuck and Carrie. Thank you so much

904
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: for being her, Chuck Consilman, Harry Solomon, appreciate it. Thank you.

905
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: Not a problem, all right, So let's let's arue carry

906
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Speaker 1: the writer um. First of all, are you at all

907
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: surprised at the reception this has had. I mean, I

908
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: know when I saw earlier this week, I think it

909
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: was over the thirteen million dollar mark, which for an

910
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: independent film is pretty incredible. Yeah, we'd pair fourteen million.

911
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: Now we're not. You know, anytime a movie does well,

912
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: you're happy and you're excited. You know, we're humbled by

913
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And but we felt from the beginning, honestly,

914
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: that this was an anointed movie and that that there

915
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: were people. You know, half of America, more than half

916
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: of America, is against abortion, and so you have this

917
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: silence majority just waiting out there, and we brought the

918
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: movie forward and people are just ecstatic, crazy excited about

919
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: the movie. And uh, and you know, Chuck, I'm wondering,

920
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: did you try to get a So you know, I

921
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: interviewed Ibby Johnson order this week, so I'm familiar with

922
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: her story and for everybody listening, she was, I believe,

923
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: the youngest ever director of a planned parenthood, saw an

924
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: abortion procedure that she assisted in and had a complete

925
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: conversion and decided that this was the taking of a

926
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: human life and she would fight against it for the

927
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Speaker 1: rest of her life. And so she has an inspiring

928
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: personal story. But we know how the politics stack up

929
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: on this one. And so, Chuck, did you approach any

930
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: major studios about partnering with you? I mean, what was

931
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: your reception like? From what do you? I guess you

932
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: consider mainstream Hollywood. Yeah, well, you know, we knew that

933
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: we would have no chance at the studios. Actually, we

934
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: suspected that the studios, if they had a chance, would

935
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: actually buy the project and shelve it, never allowed to

936
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: see the light of day. So now we knew from

937
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: the outset that we had to get completely independent financing.

938
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: We had to be outside of their production, outside of

939
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: their post production. We actually had hoped at least that

940
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: we would be able to rely on traditional marketing, marketing

941
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: through social media and so forth, and we were shut

942
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: down at every turn. Every chance they got to throw

943
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: in a cheap shot, they did. So we went oh

944
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: for nine in our attempts to license music from the

945
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: studios that actually was owned by the studios. You know,

946
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: we had Wow, they wouldn't even let you license music

947
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: for the movie. No, we actually wanted to open with

948
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: Sidey lopas girl just want to have fun. You know,

949
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: we have a Halloween scene in there trick or treating.

950
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: So we wanted, you know, Danny Elfman's goes a dead

951
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Man's party, and from some of the some of the

952
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: mainstream slash liberal media, we get well, well, you know

953
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: there's soundtracks not good. It's a little bit Christian influence,

954
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: tore like, yeah, why do you think that is? You know?

955
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: But but what was really annoying and aggravating was Google.

956
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean Google wouldn't accept our banner ads. And that's

957
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: really well before that, we couldn't get on table television

958
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: for the most part, Fox News and CBN were the

959
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: only people who would take our ads. We were turned

960
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: down by Lifetime, Hallmark, up TV, Cooking Network, Travel Network,

961
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: EI Y. I mean the list goes on and on

962
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: and on. So you know, we were reduced to just

963
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: social media and Google wouldn't accept our banner ats and

964
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: so and with an R rating, which is what we

965
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: got tagged with by the MPAA, we were forbidden from

966
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: running our trailer before anything that wasn't another R rated

967
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: movie and that yeah, Kerry, can you explain? Can you

968
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: explain that to me? Kerry? Why would you guys get

969
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: an R rating for this movie? Well, it's political? Are

970
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: The way we looked at it was first of all,

971
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: that it's an ex Obambaer appointee used to be Assistant

972
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: Sacred Secretarious Date, so his political leanings were pro choice.

973
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: He runs the MP double A. And there are large

974
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: parts of America that will not go to CNR rated movie.

975
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: A lot of parents won't let their children go to

976
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: see it. Ironically, by giving us an R, they're using

977
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: basic Christian virtue or the virtue of these families against

978
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: them because exactly what they don't want to exactly what

979
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: they want to happen is, which is to not let

980
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: families see the movie and succeed by giving a NOR.

981
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: And so that's what they did. You know, it was unfair,

982
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: but there it is. Now, how can people see it

983
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: right now? Is it only available in select theaters? Is

984
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: there an online you know, downloadable that you can pay

985
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: for a version? Will it be on iTunes? So I

986
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: think a lot of people listening right now would like

987
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: to see your movie. Un planned, there are fourteen hundred

988
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: plus theaters across the nation. Obviously we will electronically you know,

989
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: streaming and so on and so forth, but right now

990
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: we're between fourteen and fifteen hundred screens, So we'll all

991
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: across the nation give it take, and we will probably

992
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: not be available. This is yeah. The for those who

993
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: are thinking it will show up on my Netflix subscription.

994
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, our representative had a meeting with Netflix last

995
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: week and they're one hundred and thirty nine million subscribers.

996
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: Will probably not be treated to this because you left

997
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: the room saying there's no appetite in the room because

998
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, again that's a Hollywood entity, so um, you

999
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: know that's part of the looking to suppress this message.

1000
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: And I don't expect we'll be on Amazon streaming either,

1001
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: because they're actually financing, funding and producing a pro abortion

1002
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: movie as we speak. They're going they're producing This Is Jane,

1003
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: which is the story of an underground abortion provider networking

1004
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: pre roversus way in Chicago, So I don't expect a

1005
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: warm reception there either. When we show up right and

1006
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: across the country. What's the reaction been like to the

1007
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: people who have seen the movie that you've been talking to,

1008
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: It's been profound. We have people data is unbelievable. We're

1009
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: getting thousands of emails, texts, calls of people who were

1010
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: pro choice that are saying, and you know, I never knew,

1011
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: I never understood, and they're becoming pro life post aboard

1012
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: of women and men or basically, I mean, some of

1013
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: these calls are unbelievable. We had one woman call us up.

1014
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: In sixty or five years, I've struggled with the fact

1015
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: that I had an abortion every day of my life,

1016
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: and now I'm finally free. The movie is nine about

1017
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: condemning any side or saying any side's write or room.

1018
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: It's as hope and gives the fo and so you

1019
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: know the reaction to that. We treat the plan paring

1020
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: with people fairly. We don't. We don't use bias. Everything happened,

1021
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: everything is, and that we're going through. I mean Google

1022
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: labeling us under movie subjects. It's formostlysh from up the ganding.

1023
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean really, yeah, that's amazing. Guys, we got we

1024
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: gotta leave it there and fortune we're at We're at time.

1025
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: But I just want to say to the both of

1026
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: you for what you've done here by bringing this movie forward.

1027
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: I know you're probably receiving a lot of heat from it,

1028
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: but Chuck Consoman and Carry Solomon, writer and director team

1029
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: for Unplanned, thank you for joining us, guys and everybody

1030
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: out there, if you can, it's in fourteen hundred theaters.

1031
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: Go see Unplanned for yourself. Don't let big Hollywood decide

1032
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: what you can and can't see and what the truth

1033
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: is supposed to be. Thank you, gentlemen so much for

1034
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: joining and good luck to you. Thank you all right, team,

1035
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: we have more coming and going to talk about the

1036
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: progressive left and the games they play to try to

1037
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: shut down debate. That's coming up. Printing on the front

1038
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: page to circulate all around New York City, an image

1039
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: that is incredibly upsetting and triggering for New Yorkers that

1040
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: were actually there and we're actually in the radius that

1041
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: will couple one morning, or we're in their schools and

1042
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: didn't know if they were going to see their parents

1043
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they'll listen. Such an

1044
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: image for such a transparently and politically motivated attack on Ihan.

1045
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: This is we are getting to level where this is

1046
01:03:54,640 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: an incitement of violence against progressive women's color. Ah, there

1047
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: you have it. You kind of knew it was coming, right,

1048
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: You knew it was likely that Ilhan Omar and Rashida

1049
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: Talib and Alexandrio Kazio Ortez Cortez, the kind of big

1050
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: three of the progressive female left that they in the Congress.

1051
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: They're now circling the wagons around the defensive Omar after

1052
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: she said that nine to eleven was a thing that

1053
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: some people did, which is yeah, that that's going to

1054
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: get individuals upset. That's going to make them think that

1055
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 1: there's really something wrong with the judgment of the person

1056
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: that would say such a thing. That's not surprising anyone.

1057
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: But see, this is what the left does now, is

1058
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: when you say things that they don't like because they

1059
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: don't want to engage in the argument. They don't want

1060
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: to go in the back and forth the intellectual exchange

1061
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: over do you have a point? Is what you're saying

1062
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: worth hearing? Can you maybe convince me that you're correct?

1063
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: What they do is speech equals violence. Now, this is

1064
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: one of the most clear instances of where the college

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Speaker 1: campus rhetoric has transferred over into real adult life. Speech

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Speaker 1: equals violence was much more common on college campuses a

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Speaker 1: few years ago than it would be in the general

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Speaker 1: national political discourse. You hear this because they would, and

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Speaker 1: this is when also you began to hear the beginnings

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Speaker 1: of snowflake as a term that was used right, people

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Speaker 1: would talk about the snowflakes and safe spaces on campus.

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Speaker 1: Why would you need a safe space, Well, you need

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Speaker 1: a safe space if you cannot, you truly cannot handle

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Speaker 1: the words that someone is saying. They make you feel unsafe. Well,

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Speaker 1: why would those words make you feel unsafe? That seems

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Speaker 1: a bit extreme, doesn't it. Well, if you feel unsafe

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Speaker 1: because those words are tantamount to close to violence, well

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Speaker 1: then it's completely reasonable that you would take that position. Right.

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Speaker 1: If if it's almost like they're attacking you physically by

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Speaker 1: attacking your mind with words, then you do need a

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Speaker 1: safe place to go to. This was very common on campuses,

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Speaker 1: and now it's very common in real life. Hate speech

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Speaker 1: laws and the way that you are now criminalizing legitimate

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Speaker 1: political arguments. You know, look here, here's a perfect example

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Speaker 1: of this. I just yesterday and I was I was

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Speaker 1: doing rising and we're talking about Chelsea Manning and I

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Speaker 1: said she for Chelsea Manning and I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 1: mean to. This is like when the term undocumented comes

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Speaker 1: out of my mouth and I just want to just

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Speaker 1: grab my tongue and just smack myself in the face. No,

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Speaker 1: don't use they're made up politicized terms. Use the real terms, right.

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Speaker 1: Someone who was in this country without legal justification is

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Speaker 1: not undocumented. There an a legal alien. That is the

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Speaker 1: term in federal code. That is what it is called.

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Speaker 1: I'm not allowing other people, for their own reasons, to

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Speaker 1: change the language. I'm not going to use the words

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Speaker 1: that they tell me to use for political reasons. Chelsea

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Speaker 1: Manning is a male, a biological male. Chelsea Manning only

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Speaker 1: has one set of parts, and it is not female.

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Speaker 1: And yet here we are on I think all of

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Speaker 1: the major news channels, all of them. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: about every show, but I've heard it all the major

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Speaker 1: news channels. Everyone is now expected to refer to Chelsea

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Speaker 1: Manning as she. This is where reality and politeness for

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Speaker 1: me collides. You know, I don't. I would never advocate

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Speaker 1: for making somebody feel badly just because I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't like people to especially look. I think that those

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Speaker 1: individuals who are transgender have a very a very difficult

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Speaker 1: road ahead. I think that they should receive a lot

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Speaker 1: of support from friends, from society at large. I think

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Speaker 1: that they're very troubled a lot of the time. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying all of them, but I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of them have deep psychological issues, and I think the

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Speaker 1: medical literature would back that up. And it is incumbent

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Speaker 1: upon all of us to be to be kind, to

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Speaker 1: be decent to one another. But there's also an obligation

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Speaker 1: on each of us to be truthful and to be

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Speaker 1: honest and not to bend the knee to delusion. And

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Speaker 1: when I'm being told that someone is to be referred

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Speaker 1: to as female when they're actually male, I'm not comfortable

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Speaker 1: that because that's not true. You know what if I

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Speaker 1: was told that I had to refer to a fifty

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Speaker 1: year old as a fifteen year old because he felt

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Speaker 1: that way. And there are people that take this position.

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Speaker 1: I know right now it's fringe, but guess what it

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Speaker 1: was fringe ten years ago to say that men on

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Speaker 1: a high school track team should be able to compete

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Speaker 1: against women if they feel like women. Now that's not fringe.

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Speaker 1: Now we're being told that that's the expectation that we

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Speaker 1: should all have. Should I be forced to tell someone

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Speaker 1: who's fifty years old, or to say that someone who's

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Speaker 1: fifty is actually fifteen just because it makes them feel better,

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Speaker 1: Should the law recognize them as fifteen, with all the

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Speaker 1: implications that that would have, or vice versa. Could a

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old say I have the mental age of

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Speaker 1: a fifty year old, so I would like to vote.

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Speaker 1: I would like to be able to buy tobacco. I

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Speaker 1: would like to be able to get married and drive

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Speaker 1: a rental car, and all these things that are age restricted.

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Speaker 1: I think we all say, no, there's a biological reality here.

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Speaker 1: Why is it that age matters in the law. It

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Speaker 1: matters because there are developmental changes that occur. It matters

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Speaker 1: because there is an understanding of the wisdom of age

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Speaker 1: that is just true for all of us. You can't

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Speaker 1: make the same kind of decisions when you're thirteen as

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Speaker 1: you can when you're thirty or sixt And yet to

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Speaker 1: say that Chelsea Manning is a he and not a

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Speaker 1: she is almost to the left now tant to mount

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Speaker 1: to violence. It is mis gendering, which some countries in

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Speaker 1: the Western world now want to make a crime dead

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Speaker 1: naming referring to Chelsea Manning as Bradley Manning. That can

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Speaker 1: get you banned from Twitter. So this is now in

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Speaker 1: our own country. Saying that speech equals violence is a

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Speaker 1: massive invitation a giant open door for the most politicized

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Speaker 1: kinds of censorship and for the suppression of ideas that

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Speaker 1: not only trouble the left, but ideas that are necessary

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Speaker 1: if we're going to be living in a truthful society.

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Speaker 1: Speech equals violence is a tool for the suppression of truth,

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Speaker 1: and it is wielded to that end. We need to

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Speaker 1: understand that that's what's going on here. Need to call

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Speaker 1: it out when someone like AOC is saying that criticism

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Speaker 1: of a public figure, in fact, a member of Congress

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Speaker 1: ilhan Omar, is quote, incitement of violence against progressive women

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Speaker 1: of color. It is absolutely not that. And to say

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Speaker 1: that is to suggest that any criticism of women of

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Speaker 1: color in the Congress, or more broadly, in American society,

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Speaker 1: if they're public figures, is somehow you guessed it an

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Speaker 1: act of violence that debases the very concept of violence,

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Speaker 1: which is something that should never be introduced into a

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Speaker 1: political and ideological discussion. But that's what they try to do.

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Speaker 1: They conflate these things purposefully. It's a tactic, it's a tool.

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Speaker 1: It's dishonest, but unfortunately it is also very very effective,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to see more of this going into

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, I can assure you Friday Funday,

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Speaker 1: everybody freestyle time. We have our friend Inez Felcher Stepman joining.

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Speaker 1: It's been a little while since Inez has been by

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut, and here we are getting to talk

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Speaker 1: to her. She is a senior contributor to the Federalist

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Speaker 1: also the Independent Women's Forum. She knows a lot about

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Speaker 1: many things, and she's now going to share that with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Inz, thanks for having me. But

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Speaker 1: I should probably just get clarity. I say, Inez and

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Speaker 1: Inez back and forth, and you're too kind and polite

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Speaker 1: to correct me. But which one is it? Really? It's Enez,

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Speaker 1: but that's close enough. The only one that really scrapes

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Speaker 1: my ear, or so to speak, is Inez. But does

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Speaker 1: anyone ever go inay like trying to make it more

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Speaker 1: French inay, you know, like easy? But no, really that

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Speaker 1: was that didn't make any sense? Okay, let's keep going.

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Speaker 1: Equal pay day it was last week. Equal pay day

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Speaker 1: is not really a thing, So what why do people

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Speaker 1: think it's a thing. You know, as you study this, look,

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Speaker 1: this is a myth that's been debunked over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. But incredibly apparently we have to debunk

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Speaker 1: it one more time. It is not true that women

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Speaker 1: make seventy seven or seventy eight or seventy nine cents

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Speaker 1: on the dollar. That's just a total myth. That number

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Speaker 1: is collated by looking at the median income of women

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Speaker 1: on average, looking at the men's median income on average.

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Speaker 1: This is, you know, literally comparing all different kinds of jobs.

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Speaker 1: You're comparing, you know, the wages of secretaries to the

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Speaker 1: wages of engineers, and then coming out on the other

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Speaker 1: end and saying this is a discriminatory pay gap, when,

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Speaker 1: of course, the reality is this pay gap is due

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Speaker 1: almost entirely to the choices that women makes on the whole,

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Speaker 1: which are different than men. So I actually I think

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Speaker 1: this is I'm experimenting with something. You're just saying, just

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Speaker 1: love the pay gap. The pay gap represents freedom. It

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Speaker 1: represents women being able to make different choices than men,

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Speaker 1: more feminine choices than men. And hey, why are we

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Speaker 1: assuming that the choices that men make have to be

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Speaker 1: the standard? Why aren't women allowed to navigate our own

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Speaker 1: lives and the way we see fit without it becoming

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Speaker 1: a political problem to solve. I wholeheartedly agree, and even

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Speaker 1: you look at professions like veterinarian veterinarians, and they tend

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Speaker 1: to be very well paid and highly educated and for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, dominated by women. That's right. So there are

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Speaker 1: some these professions that are highly paid that are dominated

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Speaker 1: by women. There are a lot more that are dominated

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Speaker 1: fine men. So, for example, four out of five of

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Speaker 1: the top paying college majors have large majorities of male

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Speaker 1: students enrolled. Well, the reverse is true the five lowest

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Speaker 1: paid majors, so women have large majorities on all but

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Speaker 1: one of those. So some of those are chemical engineering,

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Speaker 1: aerospace engineering on the higher paid side and all the

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Speaker 1: lawerad side. We find things like, for example, social work. Right,

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Speaker 1: so women tend to choose, first of all, fields to

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Speaker 1: go into that are more interpersonal, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: those seals not all, but a lot of those fields

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Speaker 1: are and end up being lower paid. But these are

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Speaker 1: the feels that women choose to study in college, and

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Speaker 1: then choose to go into after college, and then once

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Speaker 1: they actually get to work. Men work about eighty three

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Speaker 1: percent more overtime than women. Even among full time workers,

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Speaker 1: women work fewer hours than do men. Men work more

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Speaker 1: dangerous jobs, which often come with a little bit of

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Speaker 1: boost in pay because, let's face it, we'd all like

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Speaker 1: a little less danger or not more in our lives.

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Speaker 1: And even if you remove all of the subjectivity right

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Speaker 1: from the sort of how employees are paid, right, you

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Speaker 1: take the discrimination backer entirely out of it. Wide share

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Speaker 1: companies that pay drivers completely by completely by formula right,

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Speaker 1: there's not a boss deciding who gets paid more than

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Speaker 1: somebody else. Those services also result in a pay gap

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Speaker 1: between men and women because men away, Hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me that uber is part of the patriarchy.

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Speaker 1: Computers are Computers are part of the patriarchy. Formulas and

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Speaker 1: math are part of the patriarchy. No, And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why that the male frame on this

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Speaker 1: is the one we should be taking. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: could just as easily talk about, for example, a time

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Speaker 1: with family gap or a time with friends gap between

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Speaker 1: men and women, where women tend to spend more time

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Speaker 1: with their families, more time with their friends, more time

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Speaker 1: cultivating those interpersonal relationships in their lives. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure why the fact that women choose to do that

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Speaker 1: is some kind of grand political problem rather than something

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Speaker 1: to be celebrated. After all, we are all incredibly privileged

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Speaker 1: to live in a country that is so wealthy that

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Speaker 1: that will has been created by by the capitalist system.

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Speaker 1: A country that's so wealthy that we can choose these

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Speaker 1: kinds of things, We can decide how we want to

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Speaker 1: balance to work in home life, because you know, for

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Speaker 1: most of history there was no choice. Everyone had to

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Speaker 1: work to stay alive. Now, I just want to ask

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Speaker 1: a very broad question here. You know, as you're you're

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Speaker 1: a married, wonderful guy, have an adorable dog, and our

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Speaker 1: female are a woman, and yet do not subscribe to

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Speaker 1: leftist feminist philosophy. What do these What do the women

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Speaker 1: who are on the woke left who complain about the

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Speaker 1: pay gap, what do they really want? You know, it

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Speaker 1: changes every six months, so it's hard to say. I

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Speaker 1: really like Kevin Williamson's formulation of the feminist movement as

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Speaker 1: a bunch of the three of the right kind of women, say,

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Speaker 1: I want it becomes a feminist issue. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just ridiculous to perpetuate this idea that

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Speaker 1: women in twenty nineteen in America are some kind of victims.

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01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all incredibly privileged, as I said, to live.

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Speaker 1: If you look back in human history. We're all incredibly

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Speaker 1: privileged to live in a country like we have to

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Speaker 1: have the prosperity and the freedom and the opportunity that

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Speaker 1: we have. Women have the majority, now get the majority

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Speaker 1: of both college and higher degrees. They own the majority

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Speaker 1: of wealth in this country. Actually, women are trending towards

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Speaker 1: two thirds of wealth owned in this country. They start

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Speaker 1: the majority of small businesses. It's just ludicrous. The idea

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Speaker 1: that women are somehow an oppressed class in American society.

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Speaker 1: It's just not true, and it's it's very disappointing and damaging,

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01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: I think too young women to send them off into

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Speaker 1: the world with this view that men are their enemies,

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Speaker 1: that men are their competitors, and with the idea that

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Speaker 1: they've got to be exactly like a man in order

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Speaker 1: to live a happy, you know, empowered life. I just

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Speaker 1: think that's a lie. And can you give some clarity

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: on I saw that there's which state was it? And

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Speaker 1: I might be asked you a question for which you

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: don't have the ready answers. I didn't ask about this

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01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: before we did the interview, But isn't there now a

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Speaker 1: state that's saying that transgender isn't there now moving to

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01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: the transgender students have to be able to compete on

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: women's team in high school? Which which state was this

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01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: this just happened? Well, it's not. It's not a state.

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01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: It's a There might be states that have similar laws,

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: but it is actually being proposed in the US Congress. Ah, yes,

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Speaker 1: in Congress. Yes, The Equality Act, among many other things,

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01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: would ensure that all public schools, both K twelve and

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: at the university level, would not be able to discriminate

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Speaker 1: between men and women with with regard to sports teams.

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01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: Of course, this would completely eliminate basically when sports. Um,

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Speaker 1: I if a man who you know, decides to compete

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: as a woman is able to, for example, um, you know,

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01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: run track with with biological women. I mean, that's just

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01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: not a fair fight. It's never been a fair fight.

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01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: Men are physically stronger. Um And yeah, no, so it's unfortunately,

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: it would be actually easier to deal with if it

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: was just you know, a crazy state like California or

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: um And I'm sure some states do or are looking

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01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: at similar laws. But actually the laws being proposed for

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: all of us is being proposed at the federal level.

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01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: And what what do your your feminist ideological opponents say,

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: when you say things like men are stronger than women,

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: do they do? They take umbridge at that. You know,

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: these days it's hard to be to be certain what

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: anyone will take umbradget because there are so many things.

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: In fact, it might be faster to list the things

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Speaker 1: that are not offensive considered offensive by somebody on the

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 1: left these days. Um. But yeah, I mean they argue

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01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: that men and women are not substantially different, not just um.

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01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: There's still I think a majority of people, even on

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: the left, who acknowledge the physical difference books between men

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01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: and women, but they deny that those differences had any

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01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: real substance or meaning in terms of who we are

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01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: as people. So um and and that's just not personal,

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 1: just not scientifically true, right, the Party of Science. Differences

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01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: between men and women's brains can be observed in utero, right,

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01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: that early in human development there are differences between men

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01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: and women brains, and that results in you know, men

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01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: and women making different decisions, not just about career in life,

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01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: but about you know, a whole bunch of other things.

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: And that's fine. I've never gotten this, this relentless drive

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01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: towards sameness as a quality rather than, you know, a

1342
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: quality of opportunity, rather than than looking at whether or

1343
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: not you know, men and women have opportunities to pursue

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01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: life the way they want to pursue it. Instead, we're

1345
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: sort of on this relentless drive to make men and

1346
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: women interchangeable automaton and that's just not only is that,

1347
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: you know, a fool's errand it's just no fun, right Um,

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01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: They're killing all the fun of the dynamic between men

1349
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: and women when they do that. Yeah, I like ladies

1350
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: being ladies. I'm a I'm a fan of it. I

1351
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. Everyone should check out what

1352
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 1: you would not be using you for their commercials. Then, oh,

1353
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: I know, well I got a beard these days anyway,

1354
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: So Gillette's probably not for me. Inez felt your step

1355
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: and everybody the Federalist dot Com where you can see

1356
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: her stuff. Also look for her on Fox News. Inez,

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01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: give the hubs a big hug for me, and we'll

1358
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Always. Thanks for having me, but team,

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01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. I'm here on the campus at

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01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina, where UNC and Duke are

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01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: holding a joint conference on the conflict in Gaza. So

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Speaker 1: I came here to get a sense the perspectives of

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01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,879
Speaker 1: the people attending the conference. This was a major conference

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01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: with hundreds of students, professors, and administrators who spent a

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01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: weekend bashing Israel and whitewashing the terrorist organization. Come us

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: if it only stopped there. This is a professor who

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Speaker 1: I asked about her views on the spate of attacks

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01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: in New York by black teens on Jews and synagogues.

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: Blacks have a lot of also reason to be angry

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01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: at Jews. Now, wow, that's not what you would expect

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01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: I think a professor to say when asked about anti

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01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: Semitism and anti Semitic attacks, or or maybe it is

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01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: with some people would expect professors to say these days,

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01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: given what's been going on, my friends. That was from

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01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: a new documentary film put out by our friend Amy Horowitz,

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: who's an independent filmmaker and self described gonzo journalists. And

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01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Ammy has joined us now to spruce up our Friday

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: with his tales of aminus. Hey Man, Hey Buck, how

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01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: you doing man, I'm good dude. So so this you

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01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: were at some conference, give us a little bit of

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01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: just a little bit of additional backstory here and then

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01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: you can explain the crazy that you heard on college campuses.

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01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on Bondai Beach in Australia a couple

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and just you know, calling through a

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01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: news feed and I happen to see that this is

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01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: you know, anti Israel conference. They they describe it as

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: a conference on Gaza, which means this code word for

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01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: anti Israel. I was like, oh, I know what it

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01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: might be. Has some fun to go down there and

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01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of you know, poked the bear a little bit

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01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: and see what I come up with. So um change

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: my plans. Flew out to North Carolina. Was on the

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01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: campus of the University of North Carolina, but it was

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: a joint conference between Duke and UNC And I can't

1395
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: understate this isn't like some kind of fringe conference, buck.

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01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: This was a major conference that was sponsored by every

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01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: major department and every major school, I mean, the School

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01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: of Pharmacy, for God's sake, sponsored this conference. And they

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01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: also got a quarter of a million dollars grant from

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01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: the US government. So it's bad enough that all of

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01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: these departments, schools, and our federal government were sponsoring anti

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01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: Israel conference. That in of itself, it's a travesty, but

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: what happened was just beyond shocking. I got there, and

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: of course it was the usual bashing of Israel, the

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01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: white Washington, Kamas, the white Washington because Bolah. I know.

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Speaker 1: It's sad that I kind of see this as part

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01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: for the course for a major university, but I did.

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01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: And then the featured entertainment came off. It was a

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01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: palacey and a rapper who, oddly enough, just days later,

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: totally independent of this, had this glowing article of The

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01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: New York Times up this guy. Anyways, he gets up

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01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: there and goes, guys, this is my and remember this

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01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: is really at the stage. This is hundreds of people

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: in this auditorium at the UNC in Chapel Hill. He

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: gets up, he goes, this is my anti Semitic song.

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01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: Like hum, he goes, let's get anti semitic together, and

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01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: people go wild. He's singing a song about having sex

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01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: with the Jew. Everybody's kind of audience participation. They're singing

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01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: with him. He goes, guy's not being a Semitic. Let's

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01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: take it up to know gifts and levels. I kid

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01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: you not. At the end of the song, he goes,

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01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: you guys are so beautifully anti Semitic. That's literally what

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01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: went down. He was the featured entertainment. And then I said, well,

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01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: I wonder, I mean, I don't know if everybody here

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01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: kind of feel that way about Jews. So I started

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01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: asking students, professors, administrators a couple of questions, and the

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01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: main one was this major, damaging and holy anti Semitic

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01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: trope that Jews Jewish money controls the US government and

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01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: off when I asked him do US money control the

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01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: US government? And Buck, I can't. I can't overstate this.

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01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: I probably spoke to thirty forty people. Two said not really,

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01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: and the rest said absolutely totally well known. This is

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01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: what we're seeing at our university. So you expect now,

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01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: you expect anti semitism from neo Nazis. You don't expect

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: it in the halls of our US Congress, in the

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01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: halls of academia. But that's exactly the situation we find

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01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: ourselves in today. How is it possible, ah me, that

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01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: this kind of overt and I mean, this isn't dog

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01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: whistle when someone's yelling I'm gonna wrap about how we

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01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: should all be anti Semitic. I think that's considered anti Semitic. Uh, yeah,

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01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: you know you usually don't. You know, this isn't even

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: like the ilhan Omar coded language, if it's all about

1443
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: the Benjamin's or whatever. This is just like, hey, everybody,

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: let's just be anti Semitic together for a while. You know,

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01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 1: there are some contexts where you know, if you're anti Semitic,

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01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in a lot of your Look, you're

1447
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: gonna suffer a professional consequence and people are gonna shout

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: you down. But if it feels almost like college campuses

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01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: are an anti semitism like free zone or not not

1450
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: free zone, anti semitism safe zone, there you go. Yeah, exactly,

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01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: You've got to get your right. You're right woke terms there. Bro,

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01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: Look you're you're absolutely right. And the question is how

1453
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: could this be? I will tell you the answer. Now.

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01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: It used to be that you're exactly right. That there

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01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: used to be like a veneer of protection against anti

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01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Semitism where you just said, look, I'm not an Semitic man,

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01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm just anti Israel. I just hate Israel. Now, look,

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01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: I believe that if you hate Israel and you don't

1459
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: attacks who Dan of Korea Ron at all. Then you're

1460
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: an semis right up. But okay, you can have you

1461
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: can still hang on this, this this thin film of

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01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: no man, I'm not ant semi. Now that's all gone away,

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01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why it is, because really it's

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01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: not about Israel at all. It really is about Jews specifically.

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01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: It's about intersection and intersectionality is what has kind of

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01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: created this new leftist antisemitism that really was it new.

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01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: It was always there, but now it is really being

1468
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: uncovered and become naked. And it's this idea of that. Look,

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01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: they look at Jews as being all wealthy and rich.

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01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm still looking for my Jew check.

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01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: I haven't got it yet. But they all see us

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01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: as being these powerful, wealthy people controlling the world and

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01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: the poort, and since there are titans of capitalism in

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01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: their mind, therefore they are the instruments of the oppression

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: of the downtroun. That's really what it comes down to,

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01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: if you really want to ask me, If not about Israel,

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01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: it's really about money like everything else in the world.

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01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: And they look at Jews and say, you guys are

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: on top, other people are down, and therefore you are

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: their instrument of their demise. You're the reason why they

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Speaker 1: can't succeed in life. And that's really what's been uncovered

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Speaker 1: now in the last couple of years, and by I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: last like ten fifteen years, by this whole notion and

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Speaker 1: want to I want to put I want to put

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Speaker 1: to lie the this idea that this has always happened

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Speaker 1: the last two years. It's not. It's been happening. The

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Speaker 1: increased antisemitism has become significant over the last ten years,

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Speaker 1: during the entire obambaministration and now the first two years

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. And but the real lie is that

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Speaker 1: the growth is not coming is coming from white supremacists,

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Speaker 1: and that's not true. They've always those whack jobs have

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Speaker 1: always been there, they always will be there. The real

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Speaker 1: growth is coming from the Muslim community and from the

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Speaker 1: leftist across the United States, particularly from college campuses. Amy Hortz,

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Speaker 1: everybody check out where can they go to watch your

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Speaker 1: your latest doc? Ammy? They can go to Amy Horowitz

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Speaker 1: dot com, a repository of all things Amy Immy Horwitz

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Speaker 1: dot com. It's where you can find it. And Amy,

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Speaker 1: if the if the left ever gets you in and

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Speaker 1: you disappear off the radar. I'm calling some of my

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Speaker 1: old colleagues. We're gonna get you, buddy. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: We got you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Alrighty,

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Speaker 1: my friend, you keep doing what you're doing. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon. Okay, all right, team, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: in just a few Friday everybody, which means we have

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01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: have special treats galore, including one of the only men

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01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I know who can pull off a silk scarf in

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Speaker 1: all seasons, in all conditions, indoor, outdoor, patio, rooftop, basement,

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Speaker 1: you name it. This guy's got it covered for you.

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Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam is, in fact with this now back from

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Speaker 1: jolly old England. He is the global editor in chief

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Speaker 1: of the newly newly released and revived Human Events, which

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Speaker 1: you'll tell us a bit about, Raheem. Great to have

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Speaker 1: you back, my friend. Hey, thanks Buck. I appreciate the

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01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: subsphorial endorsement as well, because it don't get quite hot

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01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: wearing scarves in the summer. But it's worth it to

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01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: hear you talk that way about it. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're the only guy I know who can pull it off.

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01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, everyone else is walking around the shorts and flipflops.

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01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: We all know Rahim Kassam would not be caught dead

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Speaker 1: in flip flops, folks, because he's not a barbarian. But rahee,

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Speaker 1: tell me about telling you about what's going on with

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Speaker 1: Brexit right now. Yeah, Look, it's very important, very interesting

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01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: because some phenomenon the Mago movement are and extrictly linked,

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Speaker 1: as I think most people recognize, and the forces by

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01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: which those two movements were tried to tried to stop

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01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: them happening, try to brought them, try to bound them

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Speaker 1: up legally. You know, you guys had the Miller investigation

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01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: here in the US. We had We've now had three

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01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: years worth of legal battles and backing force over Brexit,

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01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: and this prime minister, our prime minister who campaign remember

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01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: for the remains side, for those who wanted to stay

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01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: in the EU, she's made a big bungled bosh up

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01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: of Brexits so far. So now we're at the point

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01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: where Britain will three years later be fielding candidates in

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01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: a European parliamentary election that's due to take place next month.

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Speaker 1: And that's fascinating for two reasons. Number One, that means

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Speaker 1: Nigel Farage is coming back into the fold. He's got

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01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: a new political party called the Brexit Party. And secondly,

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01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it just shows that the government, and

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01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: again I'm going to link this back to what's been

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01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 1: going on in the US as well. The government and

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01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: especially the Conservative Party that's you know, the Republican Party's

1544
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: counterpart in the UK, have not been able to see

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01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: the will of the people through. And when you think

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01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: about it, Buck, that's quite similar to the way a

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01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: lot of Republican politicians behave. You know, they'll campaign on

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01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: all sorts of issues that they read meat to the base,

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01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: but once they're actually here on the hill, very little

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01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 1: of that occurs. And so Nage'll set up this new party,

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01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: the Brexit Party, and he's taking support from the Conservatives,

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01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: from the Labor Party, from the Centrists, and more most

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01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,839
Speaker 1: importantly for him, he's getting major business and celebrity endorsements

1554
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: at the moment too. So what are we expecting then

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01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: to happen? Rain, And we've been hearing about this for

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01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: some time, but what are the next the next step?

1557
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: The months ahead looked like for Brexit. So you'll recognize

1558
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: that a lot of people after the twenty sixty referendum

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01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: from the main side. They started throwing accusations out like, oh,

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01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: we have to have a second referendum because the people

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01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 1: didn't really know what they've voted for. Well, these European

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01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: parliamentary elections next month are basically going to act as

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01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: a second referendum of sorts. It will be up to

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01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 1: the electorate to decide whether they send pro Brexit members

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01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: to the European Parliament or anti Brexit members to the

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01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: European Parliament. So this will hopefully draw a line under

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01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: the rhetorical claims the people didn't know what they were

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01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: doing when they voted for Brexit, and that means in

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01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: impact and effect, and pragmatically speaking, that means the government

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01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: can no longer hide behind that level of rhetoric to

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01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: stop it delivering Brexit. And so I think after and

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Speaker 1: my prediction as this, by the way, that you'll get

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01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: a slight majority of Brexit m EPs representing Britain in

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01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: the European Parliament after next month, and with that new power,

1575
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: those vps can go to Brussels and start making more

1576
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: demands than the Prime Minister has failed to make so far.

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01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: Out raheem tell me what you're up to with Human Events.

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01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: By the way, tell me what the latest is here,

1579
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: because I know you've got big You've got big plans.

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Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, tell them what Human

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01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Events is. Yeah. Well, Human Events is the oldest conservative

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Speaker 1: magazine in the United States. It was founded in nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty four. It soon became the favorite of one Ronald Reagan,

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Speaker 1: and he credited it with his conversion from liberalism to

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Speaker 1: conservatism that in turn led him to be a president. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, Human Events has been

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01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: left a little bit by the wayside by its previous owners.

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01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 1: So I went along and bought it as you do

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Speaker 1: earlier this year. And if people got to human events

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01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: dot com, they can see we'll be launching it in

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01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: about eighteen days time on maybe first. It's a beautiful website.

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Speaker 1: It's been impeccably designed in magazine style format buck and

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01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I say that because I was the one who designed it.

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01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: People known for his modesty everybody, but also but also

1595
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: not just as sartorial flair. So what's going to happen now?

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01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: You've got this thing up and running again. So we're

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01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: turning it into what we call a magazine right m

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01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: A G eight in all caps like those like those

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Speaker 1: big red ones you see at the Trump rallies. It's

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01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: going to be both an intellectual hub and also a

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01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: hopefully funny meme style place where where younger people want

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01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: to go and get the arguments to put them out there.

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01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: But most importantly for us, it's it's going to bring

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01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 1: together all the populist nationalist stories from all over the world.

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01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Just like we talk about Brexit, We're gonna be talking

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01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: about what's going in Hungary, what's going on in the

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01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: United States, what's going on in Brazil, what's going on

1608
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: in Israel, and show how all these populist nationalist movements

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01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: need to be further intertwined. And that I think is

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01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: going to bring something very very new to the US

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01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: media marketplace. Right Heim Kassam, everybody you heard about his

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01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: big project here, and unlike Brexit, his is actually going

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01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: to happen. So there you go. I appreciate it, all right,

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01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: my friend. I have a fantastic weekend. Rahimkasam dot com

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: everybody for more of his latest and team will be

1616
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: right back like soft butter on warm toast. Time to

1617
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: spread some freedom coast to coast. It's time for roll

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01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: call Friday. Roll calls very special because it's the last

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01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: roll call of the week, which means that I will

1620
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: miss all of you for days and days. I will

1621
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: not get to talk to you for a couple of days.

1622
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: Makes me sad I missed the team. People ask, what

1623
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: are you doing your weekend's buck? I say, well, probably

1624
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna think about what I'm gonna tell the team on

1625
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday. But maybe I

1626
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: should also do some other things, like spend time with

1627
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 1: some people in my general physical vicinity in orbit but

1628
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: just for another time. Facebook dot com, slash buck Sexton,

1629
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: if you want to send me your thoughts and messages.

1630
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 1: I enjoy this part of the show very much, so

1631
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 1: please be a part of it. Kent, I let a

1632
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: pop culture reference slide for a while, but you said

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01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: this is why we can't have nice things a few

1634
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: months back, and obvious reference to the t Swift song

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01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: I am a man in his forties, but I hide

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01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 1: behind my twelve year old daughter. We even went to

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01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: see Taylor Swift show Shields hie oss Kent. T Swift

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01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 1: is very talented. Let's let's just let's just be frank

1639
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: about this. Let's just say it the way it is,

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01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: t swift, very talented. So there's that doctor Rick. What's up,

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01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: doctor Rick. I don't know if you get these messages,

1642
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: but in case you do, do not pay your hospital bill.

1643
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: Talk to your hospitals billing department. Ask for the doctor's note.

1644
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: Since the doctor really didn't see you, they better not

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01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: be charging codes for a doctor's visit. I would ask,

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01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: what's ept codes are being submitted since you were only

1647
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: triage and didn't get any other services, asked for the

1648
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: CPT codes and fees associated with this one. You know, Richard,

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01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate it and thank you for sending me this,

1650
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm I was outraged at the the bill

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01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: from the emergency room. I did not actually get seen

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01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: by the doctor. The doctor came in for a second

1653
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 1: and said, oh, I have to go see somebody else,

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01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 1: and then walked away and never came back. So I'm gonna, yeah,

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01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight this one a little bit. You know,

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01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: they've sent me two different bills, one for like five

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01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, one for more like twelve hundred dollars, so

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01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: they clearly aren't sure what they should build me. But

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01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: it's just it. Look, it's just wrong. It's wrong. If

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01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 1: if in under other circumstances people tried something like this,

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01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: you'd say that it was fraudulent or you know that

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01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: it was it was borderline, honestly borderline theft. But a

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01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: hospital is just gonna say that they're going to charge

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01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 1: me twelve hundred dollars to take my blood pressure and

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01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: make me wait in a room for five hours and

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01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: not have anyone show up. Really that that seems like

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01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: not something that should happen. But you know, hospitals and

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01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: big pharmaceuticals, that's where a lot of the excessive cost is.

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01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 1: Why is the cost so high? That's a whole other

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01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: set of issues, but that's where the excessive costs are

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01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: predominantly found in the healthcare system. Andres howdy, quick note,

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01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: while listening to your podcast at work, I heard you

1673
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: comment on something your listeners were experiencing. There are certainly

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01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: transgender commercials during your podcast, which is not something I

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01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: care to indulge in during my Freedom Hut experience. Just

1676
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: an fyi. Lastly, your beard profile headshot is superb Andres

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Speaker 1: transgender John, do we have transgender a podcast promo with

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Speaker 1: Trent Huh. I, guys, I don't know anything about this. Look,

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Speaker 1: I just put out the I put out the podcast

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Speaker 1: of our show, and then I leave the the ad

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01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: side of it to other other folks. I don't have

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01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: any input into that, but I might have to start

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01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: checking in a little bit to make sure that you know, yeah,

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01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't want planned parenthood ads running on my podcast.

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01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's there are there are lines.

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Speaker 1: This is not non there are rules, So I might

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01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: have to look into this a little bit. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the heads up, Andrea. I'm not, by the way,

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Speaker 1: to my knowledge, there has never been a planned parented

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Speaker 1: commercial on my show. I'm just saying something like that,

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Speaker 1: there are there are rules. There are rules. M David R.

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01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Buckman Beard props. It's funny how the same leftists who

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Speaker 1: circle the wagons around ilhan Omar downplaying the role fundamentals

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01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Islam played at nine to eleven are the same folks

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01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: who say openly the white people in the twenty first

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 1: century are still culpable for slavery, and of course any

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01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: nut that goes on a shooting spree exemplifies Trump voters.

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01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: Even the liberal who almost killed Steve Scalise. Do they

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Speaker 1: not know how transparent this is or they know that

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01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 1: their base just doesn't care. Yes, and David, I talk

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01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: about this pretty frequently, and it's it's where the left

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01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: will decide that one incident is representative of a whole

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01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: group versus a series of incidents that are not representative

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01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: of the group at all. So you have terrorist attack

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01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: after terrorist attack. I mean people who say that, let

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01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: me just do a very quick breakdown of an analysis

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01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I've done many times. People who will say that the

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Speaker 1: greater threat in this country is a white supremacist terrorism

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01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: compared to jehotism. They first off skip past the lethality

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01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: of jehottest terrorism of the last twenty years. They just

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01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: go for attacks, and attacks can often be things like

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Speaker 1: graffiti on the wall of a building or you know,

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01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 1: islamophobic voicemail messages or something like that. When you look

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Speaker 1: at lethality series attacks, gehotists are far and away the

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01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: biggest threat of the country. And then you also looks

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Speaker 1: as a percentage of population. If you're talking about just

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Speaker 1: white supremacists, therefore just people who are white, and they're

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Speaker 1: about sixty percent. You know, the only view only precondition

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Speaker 1: for being a white supremacist, I suppose is generally you

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Speaker 1: have to be white. Sixty percent of the American population

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01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: is white, about one percent of the American population is Islamic.

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01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 1: So if sixty percent and one percent are committing terrorist

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01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: acts in a as a function of overall numbers, this

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01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: is just breaking down the numbers. That tells you a

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01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: lot too about where the real threat tends to come from,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. So this is why the story the Left

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01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,560
Speaker 1: likes to tell about the real threat being white supremacist

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01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: terrorism is not really what they think it is. But

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Speaker 1: we will have more on that for you. Roll Call

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01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: continues on here with our friend Keith, who writes, Buck,

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01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: the beard looked great last night. Stop fretting about it. Well, Keith,

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01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm getting comfortable with the beard now. Now

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01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 1: it's now I've been bearded, you know. Now I feel

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01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: like it's it's pretty good. If you're concern earned as

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01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 1: i am, about the juggernaut of big pot being pushed

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01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 1: on us as a medicinal good for society, then please

1737
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: read Tell Your Children by Alex Barrenson. It's an eye opener.

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01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: He's known primarily for a series of best selling spy novels.

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01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: But for years he's primarily for years rather, he's covered

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01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 1: the prescription drug industry for The New York Times and

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01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: knows how to read studies and research papers. You have

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01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: great guests on your show, and Alex would be another.

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01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: He's well spoken and intelligent. He was on Tucker's show

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01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: a few nights ago. For reference. Keith ps marijuano is

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01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: what Mexican newspapers called pot and last century and it

1746
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: apparently means madman. Well, Keith, you know this is I'm

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Speaker 1: very interested in this because, first of all, I think

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Speaker 1: that a lot of drugs that people take, a lot

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01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: of different substances have side effects that we don't even

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01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: really fully understand. We don't even really you know, we

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: can't comprehend the long term implications of and I'm sure

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01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: that's true of marijuana. I'm sure that there are things

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01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: about marijuana that are we know other than like am

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01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 1: Andy eaty pans and jelly beans, maybe two pans and

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01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: jelly beans, and incium Reese's peanut but air cups and

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01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: incium chunky monkey ice cream, and she's like it's delicis

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01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, we all know you get the MUNCHIESE,

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01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: you get lazy, you know, you maybe get a little paranoid.

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01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: And this is what people tell me. That's what people

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Speaker 1: tell me. Um. I obviously, as somebody who is in

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Speaker 1: the agency and then post agency, I have not done

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Speaker 1: I have not done any illicit substances in wow, it

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Speaker 1: is it is almost twenty years now, almost twenty years

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Speaker 1: without touching man, I have lived. I have lived a

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Speaker 1: pretty clean life. I mean not like little house on

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Speaker 1: the prairie level, but but pretty pretty drug free. So

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Speaker 1: there's that. So I'm not I'm not somebody who's an

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Speaker 1: advocate for marijuana, because I am a big fan of

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Speaker 1: what it does. Although I have seen and heard from

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Speaker 1: medical professionals that the effects of it, for certain for glaucoma,

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Speaker 1: and you know you've heard too, I'm sure for certain

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01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: chronic pain. It's very useful. And is it worse for

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01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: you than OxyContin? I don't know. But should people be

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01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: coming home from school and smoking weed every day? No,

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01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the answer is no. But I'll also tell you I

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01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: don't think that people should be having drinks every day.

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Speaker 1: I think the drinking is this is a personal philosophy thing,

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01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: So don't I'm not you know, passing judgment on anybody,

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01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: but you know, I kind of think of of alcohol

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01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 1: almost the way that people think of cookies or chocolate cake.

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01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Like it's fine to have in the mix. I like

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01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: a good glass it tequila or some wine or but

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01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: it's not a like two or three times a day thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to eat chocolate cake two

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01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: or three times a day. You want a one piece

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 1: of cake maybe when you come home from work, I

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01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 1: get it. Maybe two. It's a lot of cake. But

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you have a rough day, you think

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01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: of these things more as treats or more as as

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Speaker 1: things to celebrate with instead of in the routine. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly marijuana is not something that I would add.

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Speaker 1: First of all, if you're under eighteen, you shouldn't touch

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Speaker 1: any of this stuff. And I know that kids do that,

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01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm a big proponent for when you're

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01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: in your development phase, don't do any of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's my government side, or rather less

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01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: a fair when it comes to government side on this,

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01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: where I think that the government shouldn't be trying to

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01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 1: mess with people and certainly not imprison people for marijuana.

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Speaker 1: But then there's also the medical and scientific side, which

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01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: I have more curiosity about. I don't. I think we

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01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 1: should be legal at the national level. I really do.

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01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that I advocate people using it, certainly

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01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: not using it excessively recreationally. But look, I have, I

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01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: have my little puritanical status streak. I'm aware of it.

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01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: I try to keep it in line. That said, go

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01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: eat some delicious food this weekend, get some sleep, get

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01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: a nap in, hang out in the sun if you can,

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01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, go go take care of yourselves. Team. Next week,

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Speaker 1: I think the Muller Report's going to finally be out,

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Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a doozy. We're going to be

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01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: here in the Hut together. I am looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: You have your orders for the weekend, Team, have a great,

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01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: great time, enjoy yourself with friends and family until Monday.

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Speaker 1: Shields High