1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ruthie's Table four, a production of iHeartRadio and 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Adamized Studios. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: The films of Olivia Coleman have the power to move 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: us to tears, make us laugh, and inspire us to 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: try something new. They can also make us feel really, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: really hungry. In the Favorite playing Queen Anne, Olivia Coleman 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: conveys her authority by insisting on a cup of over 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: rich hot chocolate. And there are tables laden with roasted venison, 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: lamb cakes, desserts, the symbols of wealth and privilege. None 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: to the queen, what what you cannot have? Got chocolate? 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Your stomach? Sugar inflames it. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm AGirl having that cup? 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Do not? I'm sorry, I do not know what to do. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh fine, give it here and you can get a 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: bucket in a mop for the aftermath. I met Olivia 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: over food one night in the River Cafe. She was 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: with my friend Maggie gillinol and they just wrap filming 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: for their movie The Lost Daughter in Greece. It is 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: not an exaggeration to say they pretty much ordered everything 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: on the menu. We immediately got into talking about feeding 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: our kids, cooking and inflicted distance from family when working 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: This was a conversation that could have lasted for hours, 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: but I had to go back to the kitchen and 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: she needed to finish your lemon pasta before it cooled down. 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: Today we're here in the River Cafe and she is 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: the one who's been cooking the lemon pasta. Now we're 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: going to pick up where we left off. Conversation with 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: a woman I admire, I respect, and I adore lucky me. 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh, that was the best introduction. 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Thanks, Man's true. It's true. So you're in the River 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: Cafe kitchen with Alex, who's on the section called Hots 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: two which does pasta. So what was it like? What 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: it just say? 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Lovely? 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: You chose for your recipe tag you Telly with lemon, 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: cream and parsley, And I wonder if you would like 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: to read it. 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 3: Four hundred grams tagli tenny and salt and coarsely ground 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: black pepper, three hundred miles double cream, one hundred and 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: twenty grams unsalted butter, softened zest and juice of four 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: juicy lemons. Six tablespoons roughly chopped flat leaf parsley. One 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty grams of grated parmitan. 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: This is one that you chose. 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean it. It is absolutely lovely and classic, 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: and I think sort of as you start being this 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: time of years, is you know, it's sort of starve 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: a bit more light in summary, but still on its 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: slightly miserable. 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Well have I picked something too easy for you? 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: No? No, this is great, fantastic. 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: What we want to do is we basically. 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Just get everything in in the pan. 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: That we need. 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: So we're going to have a bit of butter of 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: a bit of. 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 3: Cream in a large, thick bottomed saucepan. Gently heat the cream. 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: When warm, add the butter, lemon, juice, and zest, stir 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: briefly together. 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Then remove from the heat. 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: Cook the tagultarian a generous amount of boiling salted water 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: until al dente, and then drain, stir into the warm 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: cream and season. Add half the parsley and tossed together. 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: I was going, do you want to like toss it? 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: Can? I? 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because I feel like, sorry, that's a 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 2: bit you know, we've still got a bit of you 67 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: Just give it a good old yeah, yeah, exactly. 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: Serve immediately on warm plates with the remainder of the 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: parsley and the parmesan as it. 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Cools, it will sort of thicken up a little bit, 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: and then a little bit of parmesan on top. 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: From that's sort of what we're looking for. Its pretty Oh. 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: What did you observe? 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Just amazing. 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: He said you cooked it? You actually did well. 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I think he's lying, definitely. 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: It's not easy to go into it. Let me do that. 78 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: I did the tossing. Yeah, did you catch it? Yeah? 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: Well I did make a bit of a mess of 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: your floor. Sorry, Oh dear, okay, we. 81 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: Just wanted no, we didn't want to know. 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: Did you see food and your ability to eat, Well, 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: it's a kind of measure of your success. People very 84 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: often see that that we've talked to would say as 85 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: their success increased, they measured it by being able to 86 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: go to a good restaurant, better bottle of wine, even 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: not have to look at the right hand side for 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: the prices before they looked at what they wanted to eat. Yeah, 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: the difference is so is that how is that measured 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: in your career? 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: I remember we've got a close group of active friends 92 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: that we all were drama school together and we all 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: stayed very close. But when we first left drama school, 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: sometimes we'd go to you know, a pub for someone's 95 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: birthday to eat, and it was very much sort of 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: how about should we share that all of us were 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: you know, really there wasn't much lots of money going 98 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: around and and renting terrible places and trying to share 99 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: something between us. Or if we club together and buy 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: one bottle and then we could always get something from 101 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: the offfee on the way home and have more to 102 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: drink because it's cheaper at home. And then cut to 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: you know, years later, I could say, let's walk out 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: for dinner, my shout or you know what. 105 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: Did you read after we had the ask? Was that 106 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: celebrated with food? 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: No? 108 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: I think that was entirely booze. 109 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: I could do another program called you know, I was 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: so out of it sort of I couldn't believe what 111 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: had happened. 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: You did seem very sharp, yes, And why why were 113 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: you so surprised? 114 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd get it, you know, the first 115 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: time I'd been nominated, and we were so proud the 116 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: film and everything, but I just thought that that's never 117 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: gonna happen. That's oh, it makes your emotional. It was 118 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: such a ridiculous thing to have happened in a way. Yeah, 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: I can't believe it. Still can't quite believe that happened. 120 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: I did afterwards. 121 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 122 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Do you are you an emotional eater? Do you eat 123 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: when you're happy or sad? You both? Yeah? 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do love you know, the comfort foods or 125 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: hot buttered toast butter place, but I love butter. 126 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Toast is basically just a vehicle for butter. Agree. 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: My mother in law used to say that butter is 128 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: the best cheese, you know. She treated it like cheese 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: and you just have a piece of slab butter until 130 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: she decided that it was would kill you, so that 131 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: I was never allowed to cook with butter after that. 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: But it is really Yeah, I like it. And when 133 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: you make a film like for instance, going to Greece, 134 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 2: when you made the last order. 135 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: With Maggie too, Yeah, all of the we're in the 136 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: same hotel. Maggie had a little house separately because she 137 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: had to do grown up things think about the next day, 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: and we were all quite badly behaved. Who you were 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: so me Jesse, Dakota, Dakoacha Johnson, Jesse Buckley, to Coach Johnson, 140 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Paul Meskill, Ollie Jackson, Cohen, Dagmara Demin, chic. 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Who else? 142 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: I feel awful if I'm missing anyone else out. But 143 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: we were all together and quite badly behaved and eating. 144 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: We knew exactly the menu because we'd all been the 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: same hotel for I think six weeks, so we knew 146 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: the menu back to front. And they were very sweet 147 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: and would do very but there was I remember they 148 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: had a deconstructed fetter, you know, Greek salad, so it 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: was a really different fetter, not a solid one, but 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: quite a soft one, laid out sort of prettily rather 151 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: than you know what. But I remember from a childhood 152 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: holidays degrees which is great, big chunks of everything in 153 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: a bomb. I have even got pictures of the food. 154 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: And they did a savice with mango and m lovely things. 155 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: This is Greece, in Greece, in the hotel in the 156 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: Poseidonian and as well, Yes we did go to Greece 157 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: as it as yeah as kids, and I remember then 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: eating octopus. I couldn't eat octopus now because I've you know, 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: the my octopus teacher, and learning so much about how 160 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: clever they are. I can't do it any but to 161 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: eat it straight out of the sea, so fresh and 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: squid and. 163 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: So did your parents travel with you when you were 164 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: a kid, did you kill No, they. 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: Weren't really travelers. But my dad's best friend moved to 166 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: Naples when I was twelve. I don't think they'd ever 167 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: been to Italy, and we decided to go and we 168 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: stayed with them. 169 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: In the summer. 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: Yes, in the summer, we went to Ischia in the 171 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: Bay of Naples and just had because they lived there 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: and he married an Italian woman. We had incredible food. 173 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: We went to amazing restaurants, and we didn't know what 174 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: we were doing, so he would trust me and you 175 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: would order something of everything and try these beautiful things. 176 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: We went to little restaurants in people's houses in the hills. Oh, 177 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: yeh is it when I was twelve? I was born 178 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: in seventy four and I can't do maths. 179 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's eighty two, well done, No twelve, no 180 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: maths either. Seventy four eight eighty six. How long did 181 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: it take us to add twelve to seventy four eighty 182 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: that's the year before we started here. And it's interesting 183 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: that you know your first introduction to Italian cucoo was southern, 184 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: you know, so regional, isn't it a different said, you 185 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: go on to Venice, you would have had completely different food. 186 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: And I love the food of southern Italy. I did 188 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: that last year. I went sailing in that area and 189 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: it's lemons and basil. 190 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, fish fresh. 191 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, fresh, really good. So let's go back to the beginnings. Yes, 192 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: born in. 193 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: Norfolk, Yes, not really a family of food. Food was 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: always love. We'd always sit together and we had dinner. Yeah, 195 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: a lot of My mum was a nurse. Often she'd 196 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: come in. It would be quick. We might sit on 197 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 3: the sofa watch Telly with food on our laps and 198 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: you know, doctor who. But when people came around, it 199 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 3: was an excuse for my dad to open a bottle 200 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: of wine and entertain. 201 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: And who did the cooking? 202 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Then? 203 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: Did he ever cook? 204 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: He? 205 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: My mom did the cooking. She never really loved cooking. 206 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: And her mum, I remember my granny sort of dreaded 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: people coming around. And we'd always have slightly overcooked salmon, 208 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 3: new potatoes and green beans. I think that was it 209 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: every time I went to my granny's house. And but 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: then my mum whenever anyone came for a dinner party, 211 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: I can just remember cold Morney. That's with cheese and 212 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: kind of crepes and spinach, I think, yeah yeah, and 213 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: new potatoes as simple as possible. 214 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: She really didn't want to spend much time. After that 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: trip to Italy. 216 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: My dad decided he wanted to get involved and started 217 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: to particularly pastors and things, and that's. 218 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: What did you do? 219 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 3: He was a surveyor, chilter surveyor, but he quite liked 220 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: the glass of wine feeding everybody. 221 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: He wasn't great, but he was enthusiastic. 222 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: I think it is hard for a woman who was 223 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: a nurse, you know, how to think about did she 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: work nights? 225 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 3: By the time I came along, she wasn't doing nights 226 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: because she wasn't working in the hospital. She was working 227 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: on the district, so I can't even remember. She must 228 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 3: have been on call if someone needed her at night time. 229 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: But she worked Christmas Day, you know. She always took 230 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: the shifts that she knew other people didn't really want 231 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: to do. I think, and your grandmother lived near you, 232 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: often i'd go and stay there. If Mum and Dad 233 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: were very busy, I'd go and stay with my granny. 234 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: And she always had orange Club biscuits in her. 235 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: What are your memories of your grandmother, my grand orange. 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: Club biscuits, rabina hilariously by in my bed. So that's 237 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: sugar all night. 238 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: Probably they didn't think about that. 239 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: No, no, not at all and pretty. 240 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, So the memories. What about your father's mother. 241 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: She was an amazing baker girl. 242 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: We found someone in the y. What did she make? 243 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: Just there was always she had a little larder and 244 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: she'd always go have a little look in the cupboard 245 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: there go on and there was always been a little 246 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: bit of cake and made you a little bit something 247 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: or shortbreads, fruitcake which I'd ever liked, so she'd always 248 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: make me a little chocolate cake. And yeah, just we 249 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: were always allowed to go in and help ourselves. 250 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: So growing up Norfrika's see only place incredible secret. 251 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: We used to also our holidays were also camping in Norfolk, 252 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: just a few miles away from where we actually lived 253 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: on the coast, and we'd camp in a campsite and 254 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: picked Sanfa. We in Norfolk we call it Sanfa And 255 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: when I first saw it written down on our menu 256 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: in London said Samphire. 257 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that was, so. 258 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: I thought it was pronounced. 259 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: I thought it was spelt as a kid s a 260 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: n f e r sanfa, but I think that's just 261 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: the Northern way of saying it. But the way we 262 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: ate it as well was so shake off the mud 263 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: in the seawater and it's sort of blanched, but it's 264 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: still so you keep the root thing and just dip 265 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: it in butter and put it like that. You get 266 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: the meat off the meat, you know. Yeah, yeah, And 267 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: we'd always just have it like that. You'd never have 268 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: it with something else. 269 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: You eat it. That's how we ate it. 270 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: We take that little twig off at the barroom and 271 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: then we've blanched, put it with a fishbert and yeah 272 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: and sea burst. It's great. It's a short season though, 273 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: isn't it. 274 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 275 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: I think you're not allowed to pick it anymore. 276 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: We used to really go and pick it, just go 277 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: to the beach, pick it off the marshes and fish 278 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: and fish. Yes, we used to go cockling as well. 279 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: And mussels. I have always loved mussels. Oh that garlakey 280 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: dunk bread in it. 281 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 282 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: I did my first school play when I was sixteen, 283 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: and suddenly I'd always been so rubbish at everything at school, 284 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: and then suddenly did a play and went a light 285 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: went on. 286 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I love this. 287 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: I wonder if I could do this, but I didn't 288 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: know anyone who did it. I assumed you had to 289 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: come from that place in order to do it, so 290 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: sort of had a secret yearning that never said it. 291 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: And then I went to Homerton, which I think still 292 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: is a teacher training college in Cambridge, but I left 293 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: after a term or so, so I never They call 294 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: it matriculation when you become part of the university, but 295 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: I never did that, so I was never part of 296 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: the university. 297 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: And I left because I just couldn't do it. 298 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: And then went off to the town of Cambridge and 299 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: ended up working as a cleaner there for years. And 300 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: I had a bicycle has the same major to everyone else. 301 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: Nobody questioned me, and I went cycled around, went to 302 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: lectures of people. So I went to an architecture lecture, 303 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: went to an EU law lecture with when I was 304 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: totally in desperate, in love with Ed and just trying. 305 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: To you were being an actor. Nigella last and a 306 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: friend of mine, you know, she worked as a cleaner 307 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: in hotels and Florence, and she said it was the 308 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: most revealing you could have, particularly in the hotel the 309 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: way people left their rooms or so you did that 310 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: for her. 311 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: Long, Yeah, a couple of years, and then did a 312 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: secretarial course. That was my mum's suggestion that if you're 313 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: going to be an actor, you need something for it. 314 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: So you knew then that this is by then. Yeah, 315 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: I had done in Cambridge. There's about thirty drama societies 316 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: and I would just cycle aandaled it. I did my 317 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: shift cycle and auditioning things don't play his learning lines, 318 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: going back, cleaning all the loose and chasing head around. 319 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was your husband to be was a student Cambridge. 320 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Yes he was. 321 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: He's proper clever and he was there doing it properly. 322 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: What does he do He was doing law then, but 323 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: he's a writer. 324 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 325 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: And then we went off to Bristol of Vic Drama 326 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: School together and then we sort of you know, the 327 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: food is love thing. We went to Thai restaurants and 328 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: discovered new food together and there's Aai restaurant in Cambridge 329 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: and it was so delicious we took it back with us. 330 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: We asked its the first of a time I've asked 331 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: for a doggie bag. And I didn't want to leave 332 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: any of it, and we left it on his window, 333 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: still outside, putting arms out the. 334 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Window and going, oh my god, it's amazing. The lemon 335 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: grass and the coconut. 336 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: Milcolm so Cambridge and then you started acting more and 337 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: more and he went to Bristol. Yeah, and when you 338 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: actually then started working in the theater, that must have 339 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: absolutely your way of eating. Did it give you a 340 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: routine or did it give you restrictions some what you 341 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: could have? 342 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: And well, once we left Bristol and we were working, 343 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: you know, trying to earn our keep as actors. I 344 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: did my first few plays and things. I think I 345 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 3: ate quite late after the show because it was sort 346 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: of on a high. Certainly wanted to have a drink afterwards. 347 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: When I worked at the Noel Coward Theater right next 348 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: to Shiky's with Amy Morgan and Phoebe Wallerbridge, the three 349 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: of us would sort of go to Cheeky's afterwards and 350 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: sit outside and I think we all smoked then, and 351 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: we would order the little croquettes and the Scarlett Burgers. 352 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh, and that was a true and just drink. This 353 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: would have been. 354 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: After Iron Lady, except when I first met Phoebe, which 355 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: is Meryl Street playing Margaret Thatcher. 356 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: So a couple of years after that, three years after that. 357 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm so bad. 358 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: With but you can remember what you ate, you can 359 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: always Yes, Yeah, loves food, she does. 360 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 361 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: And it's really annoying that she's so tall and lean 362 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: and she loves eating. 363 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: It's annoying. It's annoying. I will, I will. But sure 364 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: you were eating out, so when you because it's you know, picnics. 365 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: Would you eat before if you were in a martine 366 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: would you. 367 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: We'd sometimes have a picnic on the floor of one 368 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: of our dressing rooms, so go to you know, get 369 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: sort of little little cheeses and meats and pretend you're 370 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: having a normal life and not going back on stage. 371 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: There are men involved as well. 372 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: Was it most of the female It was mostly just 373 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: the three of our girls, and we'd have a kip. 374 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: We'd sort of put we had some roll out mattresses 375 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: that we could put on the floor and we'd have 376 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: a snooze and eat nice food and then do the matinee. 377 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that it binds you together food? When 378 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: you when you go on a set and you know 379 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: that you're meeting you know, I don't know if the 380 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: all the other actors were friends of yours before, but 381 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: does it something that holds you all? 382 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 3: Before COVID happened, everyone would eat together on the dining 383 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: bus and I loved that you were eating with the 384 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: crew and what did you go for? What you go for, 385 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: and having a lovely time together, so social, and then 386 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: time to sort of all be equal and to let 387 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: your head down. And then now the dining bus hasn't 388 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: really come back, and so people sort of eat separately, 389 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: and that's such a shame, and you sort of sit 390 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: on your own in your little van. And I missed 391 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: that very much, and hopefully we'll come back. But also 392 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: sometimes you know, some actors are having to have a 393 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: particularly strict diet because they've got to look a certain way, 394 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: and that's sort of awful, and you try and hide 395 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: the pudding option that you went for. 396 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: How does weight and physical appearance with food, How does 397 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: it affect your work? I was just talking to someone 398 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: who's coming to London to be in a movie, and 399 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: his assistant said to me that he has a nutritionist 400 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: and a trainer because he's on a very special diet 401 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: for the film. And I thought, well, that'd be interesting. 402 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: I'd like to know about that because maybe I could 403 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: go on that without the nutritionist. And it turned out 404 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: that he was actually eating eight thousand calories a day 405 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: because I had to gain so much weight. It was 406 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: completely and I just was wondering how that, you know, 407 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: when you were a princess, when you. 408 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: When you okay queen and I had to put on weight. 409 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: You had to put on about two stone, did you? 410 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: And how did you do that? 411 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's easy. 412 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't need a nutritionist in my seat. 413 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: But you know, and Rachel and and Emily Emma are 414 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: very healthy, clean eaters anyway. They love food, but it's 415 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: sort of clean food, so well, they had their healthy options. 416 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 3: I would say, I have one of everything and all 417 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: of the puddings, and if you don't want that, I'll 418 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: have that. It started actually to be little bit quite 419 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: quite gloomy. I thought, God, what fun being told to 420 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: put on weight? But I can put all my quite quickly, 421 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: and so it starts to feel, oh, yeah, I don't know, 422 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: you want another pizza or another I'm going to have 423 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: to take it all off at the end, you know, 424 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: And how did you take it off? Just see it 425 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: old fashioned eating a lot less and trying to move more. 426 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: But it was boring and hard, and she loved to eat. 427 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Was yeah she was. I mean she did. 428 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: Was it fifteen pregnancies she'd had seventeen or maybe when 429 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: I watched the film against and she lost, she'd lost 430 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: seventeen babies. 431 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: That's right. 432 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: Her eldest one had lasted to had got to ten 433 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: years old, so they had varying degrees of ages. But 434 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: I think food for her was she was apparently clinically 435 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: obese and and. 436 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you eat comfort food. 437 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: And what I playing the queen and the was she 438 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: very different? 439 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: And she was tiny, so I did have to She 440 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: had a tiny waist and I don't have a tiny waiste, 441 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: so I did. 442 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: They were very sweet. 443 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: They got me a trainer before I started, and then 444 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: thankfully by my second season she was a bit older 445 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: and didn't have such tiny waste, so I was about. 446 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: A bit. Did you feel playing her and the research 447 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: into the live post war so completely restrictive and different 448 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: from what the voluptuous nurse and the time? 449 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Yes, so what was that like? 450 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: What was your sense of food in the palace and 451 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: food in the monarchy and food for being Queen. 452 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: Well, I think when they had I mean, this is 453 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: you know, only stuff, but I remember from what we did. 454 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: But whenever there was there were people coming to visit, 455 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: sort of big must entertain the heads of state things, 456 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: it was all beautiful, lovely food. But because she'd remembered 457 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: rations and everything, Yeah, she was never irresponsible about too 458 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: much food. She ate quite sort of circumspect frugally, and 459 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: she did maintain and she was very healthy and outdoorsy, 460 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: and she maintained a sort of neat little figure which 461 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: doesn't come from copies amounts of food. So I think 462 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: she was quite conservative about pleasure. 463 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's interesting that you know what you 464 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: wonder what pleasure there was in Yeah, you know you 465 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: can see the kings of France and the childs and 466 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: wonder whether the British aristocracy had probably probably did you 467 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: know those country houses then yeah, you just wonder about 468 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: the palace, whether eating and food was fun. I hope so, yeah, 469 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: I hope they enjoy it how they enjoy it now. 470 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: I think with King Charles, I think that that family 471 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: probably is more interested in food because. 472 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: The lovely organic vegetables and yeah, and for Miller's son 473 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: Tom Barker Bowls writes about food to cook book. 474 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully they have to. 475 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: I wonder if they go to restaurants. 476 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think that's probably hard thing 477 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: to do, isn't it. 478 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: Maybe do you cook at home? Is this passion for 479 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: food telling that you love to eat? But yeah, that's 480 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: fair enough. I'm a very good guest. 481 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: When I first left home, my mom gave me a 482 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: Delia Smith sort of complete, which was amazing. 483 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: And you know, I think she's good, really, I do. 484 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: She was in the restaurant that long ago, really, and 485 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: I thought she really taught a generation to cook. 486 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: All those lovely sort of staples. I learned that from 487 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 3: from her recipe book. So your mom gave you this book? 488 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, and so I loved cooking for my two flatmates, 489 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: Debbie and Olivia, and that was the only cookbook we had, 490 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: and we would I loved it. Also, I started to 491 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: enjoy going to the shop and going to buy because 492 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 3: we want such a tight budget. We'd picture meals and 493 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: buy for the meals, not just you know, anything off 494 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: the shelf. 495 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Fancy that. And I really enjoyed that. 496 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: And I enjoyed and sometimes it was just a jacket 497 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: of potato with loads of butter and cheese. But I 498 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: really enjoyed the us all eating together and you know, 499 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: feeding each other. So you have three children and you 500 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: work and sometimes you don't. Yeah, it can be home 501 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: or you have do have to shop. 502 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: So what is like? You told us what food was 503 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: like in your parents and your grandparents. If I were 504 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 2: to knock on the door, what is food like if 505 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: you were to knock on the. 506 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 3: Door that, Yeah, you should, because now we have I 507 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: still struggle with saying because I feel a bit it's 508 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: still of embarrassed. But we have a really lovely nanny 509 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: now I know, because we certainly both started working much more. 510 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: She's an incredible cook. 511 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Are they coming there? Yeah, you should, and you'll sit 512 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: down to dinner. 513 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: We always sit together and eat. 514 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah when we sometimes the kids are doing late things 515 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: at school and we have we do a Sunday roast 516 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: every Sunday. 517 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: We're so boring. 518 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: And do you take them on holidays and food holidays? 519 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we took the kids to sort of holiday of 520 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: a lifetime to Sri Lanka just before lockdown and just 521 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: ate the most incredible food three times a day, curry 522 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: three times a day. 523 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that? 524 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: Because we traveled around with the kids, and our two 525 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: eldest are really adventurous. 526 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: They've always we've we've always. 527 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: Included them with all the food we have, and when 528 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: we have curry, we always make one that's slightly less spicy, 529 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: and they sort of they love it now and the 530 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: boys love spice. And so when we were traveling around, 531 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: our little one really wasn't wasn't thrilled, but she was 532 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 3: only four at the time. So she ate plain pasta 533 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: wherever we were plain rise and we would have egg 534 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: hoppers and the string hoppers for breakfast, and the dolls 535 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: and the coconuts, sambal and all these beautiful things we 536 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: would eat and they loved it as well. 537 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: It does tell you about a country, doesn't it. Yell, 538 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: that's growing. Yeah. 539 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: Our middle boy, he's he became obsessed with Japan when 540 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: he was very little, and he did a sushi course 541 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: and he makes beautiful sushi and ramen. 542 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: He does three day ramen. It does take yeah days, 543 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: it makes days. 544 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 545 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: And actually Ed is taking the two boys for a 546 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: cookery course when they before our eldest goes to university. 547 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: So they're doing a little week together little boys week 548 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: learning to cook. 549 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: Do you feel when you're away and you're working, do 550 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: you feel that your work takes you away from some 551 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: people you love? And well, you know, how does that work? 552 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: Ed and I have been together thirty years, and up 553 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: until COVID, i'd only ever been away. The longest I've 554 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: been away was two weeks, because I just don't take 555 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: jobs away from home. 556 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: Okay, let's stuck there. So then you you think about 557 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: accepting a movie or yeah, a player or something that 558 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: will keep you away from home. 559 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I get terribly homesick. I never used 560 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: to be able to sleep very well if ED wasn't there, 561 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: And now I think we're probably you know, I'm at 562 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: an age where sleep is harder anyway, So actually it's quite. 563 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: You go a night away, Yeah, I'll, I'll get a 564 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: great night sleep. 565 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: But I also I missed the kids, you know, I 566 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: wanted to be there, and so I was very lucky 567 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: that I had the option of great work in the 568 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: UK and I didn't have to go away and then well. 569 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: Lost or cha. I was going to say it was 570 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: that six weeks. 571 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Six weeks. 572 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: So Sunny went from the six sixth way, which is 573 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: I think why we all behave so badly because we 574 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: all adored each other, got on so well, got hey, 575 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: we're here, we're in a beautiful place. 576 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: Did the kids come out? 577 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: No, because weren't allud you because if they came, they'd 578 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: have to quarantine before point, so we'd all meet up. 579 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: We were each other's family, and I know dag Mara 580 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: was really missing her family, and I really understood that feeling. 581 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: So I said, you'll be back on the school run 582 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: before you know it. And they don't know that you're 583 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: miserable or happy, so just go for happy. 584 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: And men aren't nil who are in the same actors 585 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: feel that way as well. Do you think they know 586 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: that their wife is home with the kids, and it's all. 587 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: I've always struggled with this male female thing. I think ideally, 588 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: if you're all brought up the same, you are the same. 589 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: It's only conditioning that makes sisting male female. So all 590 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: the men I know and love struggle with being away 591 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: from home and they miss, you know, the ones I'm 592 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: not that impressed by have a ball. But I think 593 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: that's the same with some women as well. You know, 594 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: love being away. It's I don't think it's a gender thing. 595 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a conditioning thing. But people get shut 596 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: down by different No. 597 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: No, people ask me if women chefs could differently from 598 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: male shops, and I always try and avoid that. They 599 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: really want you to say that women cook with more 600 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: care or more sensitivity and men are a bit more 601 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: and it's not true. 602 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: And it's not fair to the men that we all 603 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: know love and I know plenty of really uncaring women 604 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: and plenty of incredibly emotional, you know, kind men. 605 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: And now you're doing a movie about chocolate. Is that right? 606 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I had to talk about that will 607 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: they won't get and the chocolate. So what was that 608 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: like in terms of chocolate? 609 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: And oh they had a chocolate here, But when I 610 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: went to have for fittings and things, they said, come 611 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: and look at what this chocolate has made for us. 612 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: And these chocolates were exquisite, and he said you can 613 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: eat them all. I mean often, if it's going to 614 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: be a prop why bother maker, But that he was 615 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: so such a master. He insisted that it had to 616 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: taste beautiful, what sort of caramel? 617 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: Incredible? 618 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: And they were brightly colored and amazing shapes, and every 619 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: one of them you could have eaten, and it would 620 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: have been incredible. 621 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: I wish the audience could see your smile, because every 622 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: time you talk about food, your face lights up, and 623 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: you know, you sort of remember the things that you ate, 624 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: places that you've eaten. 625 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: And the first time I had truffle. 626 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, a white ruffle. Oh, just any truffle. Any, And 627 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: now we have we have a little job with truffle, 628 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: and every now and then, yeah, overscrumbled eagle, yeah on 629 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: a Russian pasta. 630 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 631 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: You know, food is love, and food is alleviating hunger, 632 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: and food is curiosity or traveling or discovering. Food is 633 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: also comfort, and I was wondering if there's a food 634 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: that you would turn to, something you'd either make or buy. 635 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman, wonderful person that you are, and I hope 636 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: you don't need comfort very often because you give such joy. 637 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean when you came in the restaurant today, We've 638 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: had all sorts of people come in and they're great. 639 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: They're politicians or you know, actors or writers or doctors 640 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: or whatever, and you just I could just see everybody 641 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: look up and be so happy you were there, really 642 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: happy that you were there. It was really great to see, 643 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 2: and of course I joined them and saying thank you 644 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: so much, so would you come back again? Yeah, okay, 645 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: we'll do it more. And meanwhile, will you tell me 646 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: and tell I was ever listening, what would be the 647 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: comfort food you turn to? 648 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 3: My comfort food is sort of a one spoon thing 649 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: and it's tarcodile. 650 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: I could eat that all day, every day. Okay, tacodile. 651 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: Tell me? 652 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: Can you just tell people who might not know what 653 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 2: it is? 654 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: So it's a lentils which are soft, and there's garlic, 655 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: and I think the tadca is the tempered thing on 656 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: the top. I've never made it, but I am a 657 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: connoisseur of eating it. Yeah, and it is my favorite 658 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: thing I always order. If we have a takeaway or delivery, 659 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: I order much more tarcodile than we need, so I 660 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: can have it cold for breakfast. I'll have it read 661 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: it again for lunch next day. I just love it. 662 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I could eat it. I'm going to try that love it. 663 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: I was surprised because I'm sure you're going to say 664 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: toast and butter. 665 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, don't be sorry, but. 666 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: I will come and have that talcodile knock on your 667 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: door and thank you so God, thank you having me. 668 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: And now you're going to go and have food. I'm 669 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: go have lunch and you can eat and eat and eat. Oh, 670 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you so much. Hi, it's Ruthie Rogers 671 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: and I'm so excited to announce that we have a 672 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: new book. 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