WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Moving Parts

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola, And it is a Wednesday inside the

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<v Speaker 1>s WBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in studio. Let me adjust my camera, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get it straight there. Okay, Mickey Spagnola and my first studio,

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<v Speaker 1>and Everson Walls is in his own personal studio, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got lots to talk about on this edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Shots. First off, Mickey, how about we say hello

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<v Speaker 1>to Everson. Make sure Everson can hear as well. Hello, Everson,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here. We don't want you to fill see you. Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even see Bill. We are you? Bill? You're

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<v Speaker 1>like you're like God speaking down a month people? Were you?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not on the WebEx? Where are you at? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm off by myself. Okay, off, but he's here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the WebEx you want to share. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>off by himself. My mind is going so many places

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<v Speaker 1>with that statement, And Nicky, this is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>you've been back here at the Star in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. I was here yesterday. Well okay, yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>first and I'm glad to be back here. Did this

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<v Speaker 1>show yesterday, That's right, we did do a show yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's good to be back here and around people,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, yeah, it's great. And I even got to

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<v Speaker 1>watch practice for the first time. And uh, this will

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<v Speaker 1>be three weeks, right, three weeks. And then when's the

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<v Speaker 1>last time the Cowboys won a game? I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>some relation there. They need me here? What position would

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<v Speaker 1>they need to put on the shoulder everywhere they go?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you know, you know on those on those

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<v Speaker 1>jerseys where they had the little insignia where I think

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<v Speaker 1>who had was it basketball? They had chime on there

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they about to put at spags fifty two?

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<v Speaker 1>There there you go, there you go. Vicky's the backup

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<v Speaker 1>kicker right now they got one. Well yeah, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>series practice squad, the backup backup. I was wondering what

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<v Speaker 1>that guy was doing today. He's got number one don

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<v Speaker 1>number one on. I don't know if I can. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do we have two kickers? COVID environment. Yeah, they decided

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<v Speaker 1>if you have sixteen what yeah, sixteen guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad, if one of them, you know, if Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Jones goes down or Zeroline goes down, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't bring somebody in within six days, so you better

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody to go. So they thought that for insurance purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>they ought to bring this guy in because he can

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<v Speaker 1>do all three things. I wonder if we can get

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<v Speaker 1>a close up of say, he's a hybrid? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid? That was my next questions, a hybrid? He's

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid. We're gonna get a close up of Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>and you can take a good look. Look, Mickey, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the screen over there? Oh my, what's in front

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<v Speaker 1>of your camera? Mickey? That you're a laptop. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it before, but it wasn't covering up the one s

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<v Speaker 1>covered up there? You go. At least I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a gigantic cup of tea? How you feeling there? Ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that I can't write as bags? I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>your eyebrows, but that doesn't count. The only thing that counts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the big I understand. I understand, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So can you name the new punter or kicker that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the premises here or slash kicker. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to hunter Niswander Swander Okay signed to the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's ahead of Mickey on the depth chart. But

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, yes, news has happened here since we last convened,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course that would be the trade of one

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin to the Detroit Lions. And then more news

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<v Speaker 1>today on the practice field. Eye witnessed reporter Mickey Spagnola

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<v Speaker 1>on the scene to let us know the whereabouts of

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other veteran players. Yes, and even though

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy wouldn't answer the question during the press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was no don Terry po or no Darryl

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<v Speaker 1>Warlie on the practice field for at least the portion

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<v Speaker 1>we were watching. So I'm assuming that if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>get traded by the end of the day, they will

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<v Speaker 1>be released. So that'll be kind of in line with

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<v Speaker 1>what Jerry Jones said yesterday that there would be personnel

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<v Speaker 1>changes on the defense. So no Everson Griffin the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>trader to Detroit for a conditional draft choice. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>likely a six, but can be a fifth. And then

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<v Speaker 1>these other two guys, if no one gives them a

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<v Speaker 1>bushel of apples, they're probably going to be released, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I figured out? And so don Terry Poe

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<v Speaker 1>had three point five million guaranteed on his free agency contract.

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<v Speaker 1>He played two hundred and sixty six snaps, so and

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<v Speaker 1>he had nine tackles. So for nine tackles costing three

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<v Speaker 1>point five million, that ends up being four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty four thousand dollars per tackle. Good job if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get it. Also it comes to yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not fair. And fifteen thousand per snap. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>count the double teams that he took, right, Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what he sposed to be able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He was supposed to hold up against double teams and

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<v Speaker 1>he got watched. You can't. How do you quantify that, Spags?

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me? We all I know is he had

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<v Speaker 1>nine tackles? How many did he have last year? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know that? I do not got it? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have. You know, you're looking at the Cowboys stats

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<v Speaker 1>in the four games. Yeah, the Cowboys last year, which

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<v Speaker 1>are different than I watched him play. Typically the tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>typically the stats the which is off the coaches film

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys put out is a different number than

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<v Speaker 1>what you will see on NFL on the game stats.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I took a game. Those those those

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<v Speaker 1>were off the game staff. The game Cowboys were nine

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<v Speaker 1>okay and off the game stats out the last three games,

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<v Speaker 1>right right. And last year he four Carolina eleven games,

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<v Speaker 1>ten starts, he had twenty two tackles, seven tackles for

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<v Speaker 1>lost in, six quarterback hits and or pressures, and four sacks. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't have any of those in the four

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<v Speaker 1>games I watched. Not bad so, but he was under

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<v Speaker 1>that great this year. Hey Bill, Bill, should that tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something? Right? Uh? Worly and Poe, Yeah, Worally was

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<v Speaker 1>my pet peeve. Paul was spags pet peeve. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>that means that Jerry Jones is listening to our show, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what that means? Absolutely, he's listening. He's taking

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<v Speaker 1>out with advice, He's taking out advice. And I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and claim Everson Griffin as my pet peeves. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. I like the fact that they made

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin the captain against Washington. Well, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>think they were trying to put an advertisement out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that that he's a shrew move.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, the way Jimmy got credit for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>If if Jimmy was coaching the team and this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone would for years be talking about what a shrewd

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<v Speaker 1>move that was. Upping the stock of Everson Griffin making

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<v Speaker 1>him a captain against Washington, he played us most, he

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<v Speaker 1>played his most snaps in the game. He looked and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an untrained eye, but he looked like he played

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<v Speaker 1>as well as he's played as a cowboy. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as being aggressive and getting after it. Yeah, I'm sack.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a couple of tacks. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>out there as what do you think just he was

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<v Speaker 1>out there like bait, right, I think I think as

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<v Speaker 1>they could exactly. I can't get anything from Pope, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get anything for Worli. So if we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>dumping some things here, then you know he's got the

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<v Speaker 1>four Pro Bowls, got a little bit of status from

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<v Speaker 1>the past. I mean, no one's gotten much status going

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<v Speaker 1>on what they've done this year. So what are we doing? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we are we giving up? Are we dumping? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we dumping everybody. Well, no, I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, and Mike McCarthy wouldn't admit that they

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<v Speaker 1>were sending a message, but I think you know at

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<v Speaker 1>progress stop when you're they're progress stoppers, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might as well. If you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get anything more from those guys, you might as well

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<v Speaker 1>play some of the younger guys. This is the way.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing with Worlly too, by the way, is Cheeto's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back. He looked the part of practice we got

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<v Speaker 1>to watch today. He was running as well as I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him run, So he's ready to come back. Progress stopper.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they liked what they've seen from Dorance I'm strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they want to give Bradley an Eye more

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<v Speaker 1>of an opportunity and Randy Gregory coming on. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know when we saw on Sunday Kennedy Gregory gets six

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<v Speaker 1>snaps in the game, now you probably will get more.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have a guy like Everson Griffin on

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<v Speaker 1>your team, I mean he's gonna play okay, And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to give more snaps to other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>then something's got to give. And that's and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>something of value for Everson Griffin, who was on a

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<v Speaker 1>one year contract to start with the thing on Whorley.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought when they signed him, I liked the move

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<v Speaker 1>when they signed him because of they had the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>at cornerback, and I thought the way, the best way

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to bring along Digs would be You've got him

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<v Speaker 1>as a safeguard. Here's a guy who was a third

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, who has starting experience in the league, and

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<v Speaker 1>you got him as at the best he would be

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<v Speaker 1>either in a starting role or getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>snaps the first half of the season, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>hand it over to rookie. Well, they decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and give it to the rookie anyway, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a waste of time. Yeah, and they didn't anticipate using

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown and Chitube a Woozier within the first two games,

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<v Speaker 1>so they had no choice to play the rookie. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're gonna go through growing pains, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. They don't forget they also had signed another

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<v Speaker 1>veteran corner ban Rice Kennedy, who opted out right in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason, so I think they were just covering their

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<v Speaker 1>bases with those signings and it wasn't for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and but you got to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make the decision like they have to move on when

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to move on now. And the thing with

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<v Speaker 1>Poe is now, you know, you get more snaps for

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<v Speaker 1>Neville Gallimore, maybe you'll find out more about justin Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods will get more snaps, and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>they decide to do with Tyrone Crawford, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>looked at what happened this past game, they listed Tyrone

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<v Speaker 1>Crawford as the starting defensive end. So and all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my question for you. What defense do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Nolan wants to run. I'm not sure, but if

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee can get back on the field, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they can run a four three because they would have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's played strong side linebacker. Or they can

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<v Speaker 1>put Jalen Smith on the strong side and put Lee

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<v Speaker 1>on the week side if they think he does it better.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you what. I went back and looked

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard different things about that forty yard run

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<v Speaker 1>by Gibson. The Cowboys were in their nickel defense and

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<v Speaker 1>the Red the Redskins, the Washington's lined up with two

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<v Speaker 1>running backs. I got to consider mckissic a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a wide So they lined up with two

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<v Speaker 1>running backs, mckissic and Gibson. Gibson was kind of, uh

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<v Speaker 1>like like a slot back. That's where he lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a tight end. Well, the Cowboys are in

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<v Speaker 1>their nickel defense. So there's two running backs, a tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>and two wide receivers and you're playing nickel. And guess

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<v Speaker 1>which hole they attacked where Jordan Lewis was as the

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<v Speaker 1>nickel defender instead of having a linebacker there. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>bumped off and it wasn't a great block. He just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got screened a little bit by an offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had a linebacker, they're diagnosing that play. That

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<v Speaker 1>play maybe gains three yards, but no, he gets knocked off.

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<v Speaker 1>The corner gets knocked off. Vangersh took a bad angle

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<v Speaker 1>at it, and there was nobody there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point that you got that guy that's in

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<v Speaker 1>the hole that's got to make the tackle and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make the tackle. So to me, if they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play a three, if you're gonna play a four to

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<v Speaker 1>three against teams that want to run the ball, don't

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<v Speaker 1>masquerade with a defensive end standing up and having four

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<v Speaker 1>down lineman. Right, give me another linebacker in there. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's the only criticism the way of four

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<v Speaker 1>three is designed, I mean, and and that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>they've what they've been running. They've been having a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end play the sam linebacker in the four three, and

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<v Speaker 1>that done more and in that alignment. Think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a strong side linebacker, you could line

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<v Speaker 1>him up on the line of scrimmage. Right. They do

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot with a strong side linebacker, and that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't give the offensive lineman running start to pick off

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ninety pound dB uh as what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>If that much backs real, I was gonna say one

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<v Speaker 1>give him so anyway you want, you want to plug

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<v Speaker 1>the hole, so you know, and and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people want to say, well, they didn't have any effort

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<v Speaker 1>on that, Well, they had effort that didn't have enough manpower. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was misdirection too, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>were behind vander ash We got caught behind because uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and so I think it was a tackle that

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<v Speaker 1>was able to pick him shield him off from the

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<v Speaker 1>play to get over to the hole, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>there there and we talked about this, yes, and Everson

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<v Speaker 1>brought it up. Mike McCarthy spoke to this today. His

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<v Speaker 1>quote was, everything we do on defense is about our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything I've ever done on offense was the challenge of

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<v Speaker 1>defender if I felt like he had bad eyes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on that play for some reason, uh, Jalen Smith is

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<v Speaker 1>on the Cowboys right side at linebacker right, and he

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<v Speaker 1>does not see the handoff. He's taken steps to his

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<v Speaker 1>right while the whole flow is going to us. A

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of plays like that, and what's he what's he

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<v Speaker 1>looking at? Do you think there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a toss back? What'd you say, Bill, there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of that. There's a bunch of a bunch of plays

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, and ever from your linebacker, from your

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<v Speaker 1>from your cornerback looking inside when the guy's running a

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<v Speaker 1>straight nine route on you without a stutter step right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going inside, and it's like, what are you looking at?

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's coming right at you. So there's there's something

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<v Speaker 1>to be said about. You know, we can talk about scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can talk about not being good enough, but

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<v Speaker 1>how about looking where you're supposed to look, which goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to what I was saying yesterday about preparation. Better

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<v Speaker 1>start watching some tape and the twelve yard touchdown run

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<v Speaker 1>on the and some of this stuff is not just

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<v Speaker 1>about tapes bag. Some of it is just just watching

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a football player. Yes, that is just it. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>these things have become so complicated and they just don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be. So when you talk about your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are not just about what happens after the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is snapped. Some things about recognition exactly. You know, as

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<v Speaker 1>as line as linebackers, you have to anticipate your priorities

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going to be the biggest thing that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to impact your defense versus what's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>least impacted. So as the play goes on, you prioritize.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just something goes on in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>This is nothing you have to calculate or I have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn this. No, if you're playing at professional football,

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<v Speaker 1>your brain should already be able to calculate that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how you get good defensive teams because you have more

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<v Speaker 1>people in tuned to what's going on pre snap and

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<v Speaker 1>post snap. We don't have that, so let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>break on this a good note. At practice today with

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee, okay, helmet on, you know, whatever pads they

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<v Speaker 1>were wearing. He was in the middle of everything. He

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<v Speaker 1>did his little chord work and he came over to

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<v Speaker 1>where the two linebackers were worked because they were in

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<v Speaker 1>special teams. That's what we get to watch, right So

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith and Vander esh are over there with the

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker coaches working on some different things and they were

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<v Speaker 1>explaining things to him. The next thing I know, Shawn

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<v Speaker 1>Lee he's doing the explaining and it's like, see, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they were missing. They need him on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if he plays this week, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing all the drills that I saw they

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to do. So that's a good sign. And

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<v Speaker 1>what Mike McCarthy said he was asked about Shawn Lee

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<v Speaker 1>and at the press conference this morning, talked about some

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<v Speaker 1>of that innate sense that he has that ever since

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that's been lacking in the linebacking corps and

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<v Speaker 1>also said that he's done everything except game day stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and so and he holds out hope that maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be up to Shawn Lee's experience dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the multitude of injuries that he's had in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether he's going to be ready to go or not,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll leave it up to him, and there's a chance

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<v Speaker 1>he might be able to play on Sunday night. We

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<v Speaker 1>shall see, Okay, not this Sunday for shared the next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Who they playing the next week? Pittsburgh. Who is Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Lee from Pittsburgh? That's right, think he wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. Mike McCarthy's from Pittsburgh. Exactly, Bye McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>was to be on the field. I get steamers too,

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, my mom and dad used to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the prison rodeos all the time. That's about

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<v Speaker 1>the closest my family has ever been to going to

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<v Speaker 1>some type of whatever the heck you're talking. I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to the bull riding. I went first the

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<v Speaker 1>first year it was there. Yeah, it was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I enjoy. Bring a lot of dirt in there,

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<v Speaker 1>don't Yeah they do. Yeah, Yeah. I've been to the

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<v Speaker 1>big rodeo in Calgary, the Calgary stamped Yeah right, I

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<v Speaker 1>was there for the one hundred year anniversary rodeo. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that? All right? There you go, So you got

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<v Speaker 1>another opportunity. Now do they still do that thing? You

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<v Speaker 1>got me on that one? We got a comment back

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. Ever since, we've got a comment on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at CBS eleven Bill Jones Jackson Jones no relation

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<v Speaker 1>tweets ew is my favorite all time cornerback. Oh in't

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<v Speaker 1>that nice? You look at the smile and getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. Man, You guys just haven't been airing

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<v Speaker 1>it on this show. Like I thought Bill had the

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<v Speaker 1>periscope going. Bill's not doing anything over there, just playing

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<v Speaker 1>with the stats, that's all. Yeah, all right, mickey, How

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<v Speaker 1>about how about Zack Martin? Might we see Zack Martin back?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's nearly a definite that he plays on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Sunday night. He was in practice, fully dressed and

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<v Speaker 1>taking part in the the drills that we get to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>so he looked like a full go. I mentioned Chitubey Woozier.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like he's ready to go. So those were

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<v Speaker 1>good signs from the guys that have been missing games. Uh,

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Joe Looney was out there. I don't know if he's ready,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least he was out there with a with

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<v Speaker 1>a helmet on um. And also I mentioned Sean Lee,

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>so uh, Andy Dalton though was not out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of a how do I say this?

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<v Speaker 1>A scarce, sparse looking quarterback crew over there with number

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>seven which is Ben Denucci, and number three, which is

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert, and that was it. That was your quarterback

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 1>school going on. Hm, Ben de Nucci, when did he

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>first play here in Fresco, Texas. It would have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the Division one Double AS National championship game in

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>January's North Dakota State. He was quarterbacking James Madison. North

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Dakota State won that game because they win every FCS

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>national championship going back to before Carson. As I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching that game, I actually called Charles Haley, Yeah, asked

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>him what does he know about this quarterback? Really, he

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good, you know, that's his alumni. Finally got

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>back to me. But you know, Charles is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some intellectual football so he didn't have much

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>to say. But I did see how well that young

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<v Speaker 1>man played in that game, and to just even get

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<v Speaker 1>him there, you know me, GRAHAMI State University. I still

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>say one double A that that one double A championship,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole talent level is very underestimated. So I gotta

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>give Gano some love. I'm hoping he does well. You

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.239
<v Speaker 1>know he was. He was basically the Tony Romo of

0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen season. That's what Romo was at Eastern Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended up being the Division one Double A Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. The difference is that Tony Romo sat

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<v Speaker 1>for three years before go out there and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, even his rookie year, he got an

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>opportunity in a preseason game before going I was going

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>to say he probably would want to bring his James

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Madison offensive line with him, except now that Zack Martin's

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<v Speaker 1>out there, it kind of mitigates a little bit of

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the problems they were. So it appears that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a matchup of starting quarterbacks who are from

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<v Speaker 1>the FCS National championship level. Okay, James matt and so

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>James Madison lost that FCS National championship game to North

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<v Speaker 1>Dakota State. So this has Ben de Newcie's payback game

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<v Speaker 1>against Carson Wentz, the North Dakota State product, the Philadelphia

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Eagles quarterback. There you go, there's your motivation for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, another like you like mccarthur. These answered to

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<v Speaker 1>the question about if you have to change the offense

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<v Speaker 1>up or change things up with Denucci at quarterback as

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>it started a game barely practice and hasn't had a

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game. That's what they're up against. So the defense

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>has got any any comes say, Oh, he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know who asked the question and if they were, if

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>they had their mask on, if they were smiling or

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<v Speaker 1>laughing when they asked it. Yeah. But wait, I'll tell

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you what, guys, if we're going to be optimistic about this,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, as you're bringing up these three players are

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>there coming back. Each group that's represented has been a

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>major failure in regards to this Cowboys season. You know,

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the linebacker position, if Sean Lee

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<v Speaker 1>can come back and all things go well, Sean Lee

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>can make a difference. Those mistakes that were made that

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<v Speaker 1>led to a big impact in the game could probably

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>not happen. A Woozia. We've seen two dbs get run

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<v Speaker 1>by as if their feet were in quick in quicksand

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<v Speaker 1>or basically submit a Woozia could come back you don't

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>have those mistakes, game might look different. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>with Zach Martin coming back, just having one all pro

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to be inserted back into the lineup could possibly make

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a difference in regards to our pass protection, in regards

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to our ability to block for the run. So just

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>these three signings here, if I wanted to be that,

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, ultimate Cowboy fan, which I am, I'm hoping

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that these three individuals coming in can make a difference

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to where it can at least give us a chance

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to win the ball game, and if nothing else, don't

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>take us out of the ball game with the mistakes

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>we've been having these three particular groups consistently on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the note, now, those are great points, Everson

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we'll see, hopefully all of them will be

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>able to be back this week. One of the note

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<v Speaker 1>on Ben da Nucci and uh, you know the James

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Madison team when they were here in Frisco for the

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>National Championship game. It was just days after Mike McCarthy

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was named the head coach of the Cowboys, and they

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>were staying here at the Star at the Omni right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ben da Nucci and some of his teammates got

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>on one of the elevators here they were working out

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>here at the Star and got on one of the elevators,

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<v Speaker 1>and who does he run into. Let me guess, Mike McCary. McCarthy,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and Mike McCarthy's on the elevator. So he positioned himself

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>at the back of the elevator and introduced himself to

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy, and McCarthy knew who he was because he

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<v Speaker 1>was in tune with the James Madison quarterback and of

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<v Speaker 1>course him bend Nucci being from Pittsburgh too. He started

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>his college career at pitt And the reason that Ben

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>d Nucci wanted to introduce himself to him, he wanted

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to let Mike McCarthy know that Mike's brother Joe, who

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<v Speaker 1>passed away in twenty fifteen, who is an attorney in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was Ben da Nucci's eighth grade basketball coach. And

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<v Speaker 1>Bill he read my story from back after the draft. Right, wow,

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>so they go, they got a long history together, that's right. Yeah,

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>So what the connect and d Nucci and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of records in Pennsylvania high school football. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the Gatorade player of the year, highly recruited out

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of and went to pitt you know, and then he

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>but he wound up transferring to James Madison, started some

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>games at pitt wound up transferred to James Madison. And

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>here it was just three or four months later the

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys drafted Ben da Nucci. And now how many months later,

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<v Speaker 1>six months five months later he got his first practice

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<v Speaker 1>as the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. This afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and when the Cowboys drafted him in the seventh round,

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<v Speaker 1>they had no idea that he would actually be not

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<v Speaker 1>practice today. Of course, they've had their own share of injuries.

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Their offensive line looks like this, lining up at left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle the nine time Pro Bowler Jason Peters, who was

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>close to retirement. They brought after they had injuries to

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<v Speaker 1>their starting left tackle Andre Dillard and then their starting

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>right guard Brandon Brooks. They signed him prior to the

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>season starting, but basically brought him out of retirement at

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the age of thirty eight or whatever. He is. Well

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<v Speaker 1>now he's lined up back at left tackle again well, which,

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>by the way, they moved him to left tackle after

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<v Speaker 1>the injury, and he balked at it. It was almost like,

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm getting paid to play guard, not

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>left That's right, that's exactly right. And they rework his

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>contract and then he did but they then he agreed

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to play left tackle, and then he got hurt. So

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>now he's back. Okay, all right. Nate Herbig why he

0:34:55.280 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>did not want to play right He knows it's a

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>beast out there waiting on him somewhere to try and

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>get to his quarterback. He's like, oh no, you're not

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna put that with that. That's like playing cornerback in

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the flex defense. That's what it's like playing left tackle

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>these days. Nobody wants it. Only the strongest heart can

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>have it. That's it. Nate Herbig is at left guard.

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Jason Kelsey, three time Pro bowler, is at center. Yes,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the right guard is Matt Pryor, who is a college

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>free agent last year and the right tackle seventh round

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>draft pick two years ago. Jordan made lotta as Lane

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Johnson is out to start the week, So both teams

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>with offensive line problems. That's exactly right. We'll see Lane

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Johnson could be back they say, But and their quarterback

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is thrown motions than the Cowboys starting quarterback. That's right,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>And he's been sacked twenty five more times as Deduci

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>has already been sacked three times. Right, but the Winz

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>has been sacked twenty eight times already this season in

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>seven games. Maybe this is what the Cowboys defense needs

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to get. Well, that's right, that's right. And the other

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>guy I ever send that's not starting. Let's just everybody

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>calmed down here, Let's let's look at what we're dealing

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>with here. Carson Wentz has he was like Dak Prescott,

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>just without Ceedee Lamb Cooper Gallop. Okay, he's still going

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>out there doing the best he can. I gotta handed

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to to to Zach to Wentz. Uh he is and

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got so much heart and so much athletic ability,

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>so much endurance. Uh. Mentally he's strong. And I'm not

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>putting him over Dad by any means. But I will say,

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>watching that game the other night, and how well he played.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He had almost four hundred yards passing with no receiver

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a game. There have been several games where if I

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was crossing Wentz, I would have just thrown in just

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>thrown it in. Just here, take my helmet, take my

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>shoulder pads. I don't want to play anymore because they

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have been coming at him, no line, no receivers running

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>back to herk Sanders is down and they're coming in.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>But what they can This Philadelphia team, since last year,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe even two years ago, with Peterson as the head coach,

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>they've shown me to have more guts than almost any

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>team I've ever seen. They've shown me as a team

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that has the ability to make no excuses whatsoever. You love.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>On their official depth chart, they only have oh they

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>got five. I missed the one I was gonna say

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they only had four receivers listed. They got five listed, Elshan, Jeffrey,

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Travis Fulghum, who has become their his go to guy.

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>This guy's playing right and then backed up by John

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:09.919
<v Speaker 1>high Tower, r Sega Whitesides and quiz what you don't

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have Greg Ward listed there? What about what about Ward? Uh?

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Probably not on their social depth chart. He's got to

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>be on their depth chart. The wide receiver. Now he's there,

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>He's there, Mickey just can't fin Oh, I see what

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:28.720
<v Speaker 1>they did. They listed three wide receivers starting there. You go, yeah, yeah, okay,

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, and it was okay. Their receiving corps is

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a great example I think of. I mean when you

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>look at it, when they put their team together. They

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 1>had Alshon Jeffrey, veteran guy Deshaun Jackson who's now out

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>for weeks with his latest injury, veteran guy, first round

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>draft pick in Jalen Rager out to watch the hatchee

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and TCU, who, by the way, is back at practice

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and looks like he's gonna come back and play this week.

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>He's he's a good one. But it's a great example.

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You take Greg Ward, especially last year, he was the

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>one guy with all the injuries they had at receiver

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>last year, he was the guy who who developed and

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>emerged and he was their go to guy at the

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>end of the season. In fact, caught the touchdown pass

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>against the Cowboys. Last year a college quarterback at the

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>University of Houston, and then this year as a waiver

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>claim last month, the waiver claim from the Packers, I think,

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and he was originally with the Lions, but out of

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>old dominion, this six two receiver Travis Fulgham comes out

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere and you know he is making plays, game

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>winning plays. He had the catch against San Francisco and

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>was it a Sunday night game against San Francisco where

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>he made the play. You know, he had one game

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>against Pittsburgh he had ten catches for one hundred and

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>fifty two yards in a touchdown. Follows that up that

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 1>was after the San Francisco game against Baltimore with six

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>catches seventy five yards in a touchdown. And then he

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>gets the Giant's five receptions seventy three yards he's got

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>so he's got three touchdown grabs. But so he's a

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he's a guy that and they're big catches too, Bill,

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just plays that are just so by the way player. No,

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>these are big catches, third down catches, red zone catches

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that they truly need to get out of a get

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>out of a hole. And I'm not trying to be

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be all on Carston Wentz and

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>saying that he's all this and all that. He throws

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so many interceptions and makes so many mistakes it just

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>makes you want to pull, well, pull something out, but

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he can do it. But he also make throws. What

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you see is a guy that does not stay down

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on himself. He still believes in himself and his teammates

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>regardless of how many mistakes they make. They don't fall

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>back on that, and it's just refreshing to see, you know,

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and they touchdown past the Buston Scott is running back

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy. I asked McCarthy last night on his TV

0:40:55.520 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 1>show about about what he thinks and so forth, and

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he was saying and he pointed to that throw. He

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>said that that throw right there was all you needed

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<v Speaker 1>to see and a great catch by Boston Scott. Two.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of those things like you see in

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<v Speaker 1>practice where the quarterbacks tried to throw into the trash

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<v Speaker 1>can from about thirty yards out. He dropped that one

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<v Speaker 1>right and leaning back while falling back, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>And that Fulham guy's averaging fifteen and a half yards

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<v Speaker 1>per catch. That's right, and uh and it's a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of you can have progress stoppers on a team. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Alshon Jeffrey has had his moments in

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<v Speaker 1>this league, but he is what he is now. As

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<v Speaker 1>when did he come in the league in twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's thirty years old now. Deshan Jackson, he's older

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>than that. And and uh he did, he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's okay, yeah, uh yeah. But these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of their opportunity and showing that they can play.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>And how about Greg Ward. I mean, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>guy played for Tom Herman quarterback University of Houston. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you go back and look at his college career. He

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<v Speaker 1>led Houston to a Peach Bowl win over Florida State

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<v Speaker 1>where they wound up ranking the top ten in the

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<v Speaker 1>country as a quarterback. And then he you know who,

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>he you know who? What skins he has on the

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>wall from college in he beat as a quarterback, Houston

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>beat Louisville and Lamar Jackson in his sophomore year, and

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<v Speaker 1>then his junior year, they started the year against Baker

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Mayfield in Oklahoma and they beat them too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so he as a quarterback, he matched up against Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson and Baker Mayfield, two Heisman Trophy winners in one

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<v Speaker 1>and then, okay, he wasn't going to play quarterback in

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Well, he's got enough athleticism, want to whatever,

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to make himself into a wide receiver and he's gonna play.

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna play ten years in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had enough smarts to accept the fact that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my future probably is going to be at wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>and said, okay, I can make that transition. So from

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<v Speaker 1>a scouting standpoint, where am I dating? Am I dating myself?

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>When I bring up Marlin Briscoe? You are? And and

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>he here's the warning for the Cowboys and end around pass. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>be ready, there you go. You want to tell a

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<v Speaker 1>Marlin Briscoe story. Yeah, no, that that was his. That

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<v Speaker 1>was his basically, that was his career. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the first black quarterbacks in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>uh period, and uh he was. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>up in Denver. You know how it goes. You got

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>those coaches back in the day. They didn't believe in

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>black quarterbacks. And I think it was loose Sabing was

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>his coach. I could be wrong, but they treat him

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>like crap like they did most black quarterbacks back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. And they He ended up getting traded to

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<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins, and he ended up being part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Aamy Dolphin's Super Bowl team. If I'm not mistaken,

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that did not lose a game. He scored a touchdown

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>in that Super Bowl. If I'm not mistaken. So he

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me a lot of what Greg Ward does. Most quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the Black quarterbacks, that that that run a team,

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<v Speaker 1>they understand every asset facet of the game. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the same with greg Ward, just like Briscoe that that

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<v Speaker 1>that move was seamless from quarterback to wide receiver, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you know you want to play quarterback because you

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>grew up playing quarterbacking. We all know the stigma around that.

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 1>They still took their opportunity where it came and they

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<v Speaker 1>have not looked back. Marlon Briscoe, HBCU Black College Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer. I was just going to point that out.

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<v Speaker 1>You took it away from me, just in case you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I know the story because it's a

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>personal story. I've heard it, I've met the man, and

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<v Speaker 1>he has another grants, just like I'm sure Greg Ward

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't either. And all of that is true about Marlin Briscoe.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, on that undefeated Miami Dolphins team in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two, he led the team with four touchdown receptions.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean he led the team? I'm checking

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm that, Well, it wasn't that many. That caught

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<v Speaker 1>more than he did because that team was known for

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>having the three run jim kickback, just not have to

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>throw much at all, four touchdown receptions, was the leader

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and an undefeated team. I'm checking checking on and he's

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>got time not on his side. He was their leading receiver.

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Caught more passes than Paul Warfield. Well then Paul Warfield.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. Unfortunately I clicked on the link

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not coming up. I can't get In nineteen

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>seventy two, Marlin Briscoe. Let me wait, wait, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone leads the team other than Briscoe, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be Paul Warfield. Yeah, no doubt. Hall of Famer right there,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I got do? I have twenty seconds? Marlin Briscoe,

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<v Speaker 1>Marlin Briscoe, Come on, Marlin. Here we go. Marlin Briscoe

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy two. Wow, he only started three games.

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<v Speaker 1>He had four touchdown catches. So there you go. He's good, dude, good.

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>He was a great athlete. There's team stats didn't come up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I got it, I got it. I got it.