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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do a live on a first Friday

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Speaker 2: miracle edition of the program. Merely bow the great z.

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Speaker 2: This is why you need Sundays. This is why we

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Speaker 2: had a day on Monday. Perfect baby, we should have

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Speaker 2: taken it. You got your Sunday pass. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna be in today, sir.

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Speaker 3: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Well, because I'm gonna use one of my five Sundays

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna stay home because and then you can

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Speaker 2: switch it for a day like this.

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Speaker 4: We're in Ohio in the sunshine, and that's why early March,

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Speaker 4: that's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're gonna be and so we take it.

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Speaker 2: I was walking around the yard this morning, the great

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Speaker 2: start to a story. It was looking for the buddy droppings.

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Speaker 2: As it were so in the old days. I would

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Speaker 2: walk him morning and night and he would do his droppings.

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Speaker 2: The droppings are so formidable now, I mean, it's like

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Speaker 2: a human situation is what we're looking at.

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Speaker 3: He's a big dog, he's a big boy, So.

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Speaker 2: No it's not and so like picking it up, but

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Speaker 2: I do it because I'm a human. I live in

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Speaker 2: a society. I'm going to clean it up. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not crazy about it. So now I just I still

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Speaker 2: walk with him, but I let him out to go

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Speaker 2: do his business and we then then we'll walk. So

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Speaker 2: there was like a dozen this morning that I had

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Speaker 2: found and I sent the boys out Sunday to go

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Speaker 2: do it, and they just did a half assed job.

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Speaker 3: They probably were out there for now.

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Speaker 4: They I took pride in that as a young man,

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Speaker 4: that was one of my big chores.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hated it, sucks, hated it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so sho when you get the ones that make

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Speaker 4: you gag like I'm fresh a fresh full, Yeah, terrible.

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Speaker 3: It's awful.

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Speaker 2: So I was doing it this morning and there was

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Speaker 2: probably a dozen still out there. They did do some

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, but clearly not a full comprehensive look

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Speaker 2: as I would give. And as I was walking like

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Speaker 2: everything was just like a sponge and I thought, this

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Speaker 2: can take forever.

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Speaker 3: Oh forever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is just absolutely soaked out there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: yesterday was a deluge of epic proportions, by the way,

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Speaker 4: you called it correctly. So I had to go do

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Speaker 4: a thing for Connor with a.

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Speaker 3: K A video. You walked out.

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Speaker 4: You said you're gonna miss your window pal last yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: after this post show yea, and boy did I Yes,

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Speaker 4: you did. So I was curious.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, are you gotta you gotta go now? I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: I had add responsibility, responsibilities.

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Speaker 4: I'm a working may gives me crap all the time,

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Speaker 4: constant here I am, you are here, I am working,

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Speaker 4: And uh so I got that done, went out pouring.

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Speaker 4: I was, however, able to they're no umbrellas, and I

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Speaker 4: always an umbrella in my car.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't do you any good, doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It's in the car and you're not in the car.

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Speaker 4: And I had, you know, yesterday I had the white.

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Speaker 3: The whites. You did have the whites.

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Speaker 4: They're They're totally fine. So what I did was I

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Speaker 4: used our car's feature, which never has worked before Summons

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Speaker 4: and I.

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Speaker 3: It came all the way down to the very front. Scary.

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Speaker 5: I came up.

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Speaker 3: He's like, dude, what is going on right now? I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it never works. It's never it's working right now, What

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Speaker 3: would you have done if it would have haywired and

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Speaker 3: drove into the building?

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Speaker 4: Been very sad. Well, once you take your finger off,

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Speaker 4: it stops immediately.

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Speaker 3: I never have the.

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Speaker 2: Guts to try it because I'm always in a parking lot,

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Speaker 4: Something out of my spot turned and came right to

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Speaker 4: the front door, which is as close as I could get,

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Speaker 4: and so I just had a dead straight sprint through. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: there weren't puddles yet, so I was able to shoot

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Speaker 4: fine and then I was right in. So that was

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Speaker 4: that actually made me happy because I've tried it before

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Speaker 4: with no success. No, so like the fact that it

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Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. Yeah, I'm gonna have to I wonder if

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Speaker 2: it could cross the street.

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Speaker 4: It can, but I feel like that's bringing in a hole.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of elements in them. Yeah, other Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there are other people in the sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it got biblical last night on the way home,

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Speaker 2: Hail and one of one of the worst drives.

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Speaker 3: It was bad. Yeah, it was quite bad.

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Speaker 4: Back what you're saying earlier though, with with the dogs

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Speaker 4: and the picking up and sending.

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Speaker 3: The kids out to do it.

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Speaker 4: So we're luck at you with asa is she is

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Speaker 4: like at least four times a day. Oh really yeah,

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Speaker 4: so mourning when I let her out, mourning. And then

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Speaker 4: I I do live in a society, but I say,

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Speaker 4: go fertilize the yard.

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Speaker 6: To go.

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Speaker 4: She goes the runs around the side, nobody sees it,

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Speaker 4: who gets it?

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: Then my mom takes her for a walk after her breakfast.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know that I've ever seen a dog

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Speaker 4: like we think of a dog, like a dog or

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Speaker 4: a dog. They're motivated, buy food and love it is

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Speaker 4: obsessed with food. She could, Yeah, I think she would

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Speaker 4: if I just kept feeding her all day. I think

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Speaker 4: she would eat herself into into oblivion if she could

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Speaker 4: herds her joy. Her zest for food is like bootsy

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Speaker 4: zest for one of my big snipes, very pumped my

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Speaker 4: favorite Yesterday's like.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing? I'm playing with mister z. I

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Speaker 3: could hear you in the background. You're like you are

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, it's fantastic. It was dinner. Said hey, buddy,

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Speaker 3: how are you everything good over there?

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Speaker 5: He's great?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so said I came down there to get him

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Speaker 2: to this. It is dinner time, and so I tell

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Speaker 2: him to do that, and I said, why don't you

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Speaker 2: coming up? And he goes okay, And then if you're

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Speaker 2: watching on the stream, then he went.

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Speaker 3: Up because he had a great time. So he had

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Speaker 3: a great time. We got a second. We're close to

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Speaker 3: getting our first VIC. I talked to him.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, dude, are you doing everything on

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Speaker 2: your end of things to fulfill this stream of getting

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Speaker 2: your first VIC? And he is honest that he is not.

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Speaker 4: Dude, you got to heal up, like you can't be

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Speaker 4: walking around with less than full health and full shields.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're shooting at you. They're shooting, so every shot

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Speaker 3: takes something. It's just math. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to be at two hund that's his strategy.

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Speaker 2: Like his strategies, don't worry about.

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Speaker 3: It's like whatever, I'm at one hundred, I'm like, out

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Speaker 3: of two hundred and fifty, that's not good.

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Speaker 5: That ain't it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, by my count, because it means you're at forty

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Speaker 2: So that's probably he probably gets that that headspace from

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Speaker 2: how he is, like if he's on my wife's phone,

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Speaker 2: like he doesn't need it. To be fully charged, like

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be plenty to get me through what

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Speaker 2: I need to do. Well, nobody's shooting, but no one's

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Speaker 2: shooting at the phone. No no, so oh my god.

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Speaker 4: So his s is great, but acess for food is

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Speaker 4: equally great. And she so she mourning. Then she gets

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Speaker 4: her breakfast. Her breakfast is a meaty boat, a gravy bone.

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Speaker 4: She loves a gravy bone. That's the first thing she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she gets just a.

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Speaker 4: Teeny little bit of kibble, and now I give her

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Speaker 4: and it seems to be helping, so she loves that.

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Speaker 4: Then she goes on a walk to my mom again

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Speaker 4: in the morning. Then she gets lunch, Then she goes

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Speaker 4: she can't wait for her afternoon walks. After her afternoon walk,

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Speaker 4: then she gets first dinner, and by the way, goes

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Speaker 3: Walk as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's three. Yeah, first dinner. Then she gets

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Speaker 4: second dinner. Then she wants everything that we're eating. If

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Speaker 4: you have anything in a.

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Speaker 3: Bowl, she is demanding that the ball before it is

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Speaker 3: the as night, she is beside herself.

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Speaker 2: She's gotta have you give her some leftover stuffy.

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Speaker 4: Listen, if I'm cutting steak, she's sitting like she sit there.

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Speaker 4: And so I always tell the kids, I'm like, look,

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Speaker 4: she was ripped away from not only her family but

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Speaker 4: her species to live with these giants, and the one

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Speaker 4: thing that makes her happy is food. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: give her some food. But then she has the time

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Speaker 3: And she always tried a lot of that's a lot

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Speaker 3: of feeding.

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Speaker 4: No, not like night feeding the foe were Oh oh,

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Speaker 4: the movements, The movements happen around the feeding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it, I got you. Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Buddies twice a day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but her kibble she only gets so she gets

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Speaker 4: you're gonna laugh. This breakfast is a third of a cup,

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Speaker 4: Lunch is a third of a cup. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: for dinner because she gets first and second dinner, she

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Speaker 4: gets two thirds of a cup.

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Speaker 3: So like basically one cup of food for the day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is that where we're at? Okay? Which is not a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's not a lot at all. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: But she's lost weight. She's looking good. She's like eleven pounds.

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Speaker 4: She's she's doing well. She jumped up on the bed

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Speaker 4: the other day, so maybe the wheel's getting better.

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Speaker 3: That's good. We bought her stairs just to get some,

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Speaker 3: get some use.

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Speaker 4: Them to get up onto the bed. Oh you know manytimes,

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Speaker 4: You know manytimes.

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Speaker 3: She's used them. Zero zero, absolute zero.

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Speaker 4: She would rather flail herself into the middle of the

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Speaker 4: bed trying to make it and being rejected.

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Speaker 3: At least she still has the spirit. The effort is

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Speaker 3: still there. She made it this yesterday morning. Whoa Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, she's back.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, good news. I have nana handle that stuff.

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Speaker 4: When I was a kid, though, my goal was to

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Speaker 4: always leave one to the point where it started growing hair.

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Speaker 3: That's always fun when it really starts to decompose, like

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Speaker 3: that's when you're really living. Got like white hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I there are so many kids that run around

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Speaker 2: our yard. But that's where I'm coming, like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: did you step in one of these things?

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Speaker 3: You got to throw the shoes away. It's a horrible day.

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Speaker 3: Efficient. It was efficient. Yeah, no, no he didn't touch him,

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Speaker 2: I would have changed. They would have won, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: You fell short.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, you fell short to the ultimate goal, and so

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Speaker 2: And that's why when I when I look back on

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a magical season. I mean it's an unbecoming end.

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Speaker 2: I think, if it what if it's this? What if

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Speaker 3: It feels better.

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Speaker 4: At Davis ended up turning into a preseason game. Davis

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Speaker 3: Weird game in fouse. The first half was great, it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, okay, these heavy we're gonna punt throw

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Speaker 4: We were about to make it a one possession game

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's done. Then you're done. But no, it is

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Speaker 4: I think for the look the Calves, it feels like

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Speaker 4: able to. You want to do better than they did

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Speaker 4: last year, right, you want to go and at least

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Speaker 2: So I think they have to from I guess from

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Speaker 2: a there's that. So that feels like that would be

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. These are really cool things to get you through.

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Speaker 3: No, not until I met my wife. Yeah yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: Do I have this right?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes some onion in there with butter, and that's the operation.

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Speaker 3: My head around. But at the same time, it's just

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Speaker 2: No, And like every holiday, it's served every I'm talking.

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Speaker 2: We have it at Thanksgiving, we have it at Easteria

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Speaker 2: I don't have to eat them, but I see them

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Speaker 3: It's a heavy dish.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, And a lot of people enjoy them

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Speaker 3: I just go God. So when I see chestnut crushing thirty,

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Speaker 3: I think I could maybe do six. Maybe, dude, it's intense.

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Speaker 3: I mean six would be six, six would be I

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Speaker 4: I know, but I would also be starting a gross out.

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Speaker 3: You would, but you could do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Your ability to have really incredible manners and eat a

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant it is a very big compliment. I've

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Speaker 3: You're in conversation.

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Speaker 2: There's at no point where I feel like you're rushing

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Speaker 3: That we'd love it. Yeah. Do you imagine just a

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Speaker 2: We play golf, play a little Fortnite, order some you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we have some Fortnite. We play some yeah,

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Speaker 3: Big wins for everybody. So back to the caves.

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Speaker 2: I think you gotta go six seven games in the

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Speaker 4: I think you you really what you want is and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll get it, But what you

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Speaker 3: I don't think you want any part of them. Well

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Speaker 3: you gotta want you get it. They can't beat them.

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Speaker 3: You gotta beat them.

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Speaker 2: I understand, but I don't think they can. You've got

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Speaker 2: with nobody playing. They punked them. They're flicking Donovan Mitchell's chain.

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Speaker 2: They are disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: Josh Hart that was that was a gangster removed. That

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Speaker 4: And he's not a great shooter. The step actually hit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like nineteen rebounds, yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: swagger and something to entertainment for us, it would be

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Speaker 2: beat the Knicks in the first round would be the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be the one. And then you get

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Speaker 5: I have no clue.

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Speaker 2: I don't watch a lot of it. See, I think

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Speaker 2: They're all in so they'll watch the college basketball and

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Speaker 2: then they'll the calves are the two things they're monitoring.

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Speaker 2: So I don't watch a game from start to finish.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not watching.

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Speaker 4: So so right now, Celtics are the one, and the

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Speaker 4: Celtics have already clinched a playoff birth they are the

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Speaker 3: East who have done so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Celtics are one, Bucks are two, currently, Calves are three,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they do the playing thing for the.

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Speaker 4: Playing and right now the Heat, seventy six Ers, and

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Speaker 3: The Bulls and Hawks have losing records. I would not

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Speaker 4: Let's see, could you name the top three guys on

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Speaker 3: Isn't Paula ben Caro there?

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Speaker 5: One?

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Speaker 3: They drafted a kid from Florida State, Isaac.

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Speaker 3: do they have a what about Jay and Suggs?

444
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:00,920
Speaker 5: Is he there?

445
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:01,200
Speaker 3: The kid?

446
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 5: Oh?

447
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 3: He would be the third.

448
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 4: Gonzaga their their second lead, Caro Suggs their third leading score.

449
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 2: Wagner something I was gonna say something that the hoff

450
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 2: might see and Wagner yeah, okay, so.

451
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,360
Speaker 3: But get job out of me, great job at you? Insane.

452
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen our Lanta Atlanta Magic game since Penny left,

453
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 2: So I play.

454
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,160
Speaker 3: I had no two K in my rotation this year.

455
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 8: I'm not.

456
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't know it. Yeah, so they're like the three,

457
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 3: they're the four.

458
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 4: They're thirty six and twenty six Knicks as thirty six

459
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 4: and twenty six heater thirty five and twenty six. Seventy

460
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 4: six ers are thirty five and twenty six. Seventy six

461
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,640
Speaker 4: ers are I'm playing? And the Pacers are pretty solid

462
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 4: thirty five and twenty eight right.

463
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 9: The Sixers have been missing Joel Embiid for a while now. Yeah,

464
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 9: so that's why they're down there. They're like the scariest

465
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 9: seven seed because if they get Empied back.

466
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 3: Is there talk that he could come back.

467
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 9: I think he's supposed to be back around the playoffs. Okay, yeah,

468
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 9: so that would be kind of scary as a seventh seed.

469
00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 2: Okay, so win around minimum requirement. Feel happy? About things.

470
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 2: Give me you to a six to seven game in

471
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: an Eastern Conference semi yeah, ecstatic, Eastern Conference Final, thrilled.

472
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: Thrilled, absolutely thrilled. Okay, that's that's where I'm kind of

473
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: by the way.

474
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy on the Cavs merrill.

475
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy who doesn't miss. He's unbelievable to one

476
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 3: not miss threes. Yeah, So.

477
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 2: They had a statue it wasn't like seventy percent on catch,

478
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 2: catch and shoot threes.

479
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 4: He's number one in the league. He's averaging in sixteen.

480
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 4: He needs to play more like he should be. I

481
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: want him on the floor a lot now. Josh Hart

482
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 4: bullied him on when he was defending him one on one,

483
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 4: and so Dante DiVincenzo was pretty nasty in that game too.

484
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: He was a lot of smack.

485
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 4: Good for him, like, yeah, he's got a lot of

486
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: swag to him. They had to put a coral on

487
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: him late in that game. But so sixteen minutes, where's

488
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 4: this I need a sh shooting? This to me is

489
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 4: the crazy thing. So he's shooting forty three point eight

490
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 4: percent from three, which I guess is the best end

491
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 4: he's got.

492
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: Why was he not in the comp the three point shootout.

493
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: It's outrageous.

494
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 5: It is. I'd like to.

495
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: Okay, he is attempted on the season two hundred and

496
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: sixty six field goals.

497
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 5: Yep.

498
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 4: How many of the two hundred and sixty six field

499
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 4: goal attempts that he has do you believe are three pointers?

500
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: I know it's going to be an absurd amount, so

501
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: that my hunch is it's probably like two forty five.

502
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 4: Two thirty three, Yeah, out of two six six. The

503
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: game that I went to against the UH Knicks, he

504
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: had twenty one points on the night. He took nothing

505
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: but threes. Every single attempt was a three.

506
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

507
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: I think he was seven for Do you think at

508
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: some point that they they should eliminate that shot.

509
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 3: The three point shot?

510
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, to get the movement back in the game.

511
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 3: It's the NBA product. Is it's not great.

512
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 4: It's not a great product because it's either isolation or

513
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: it's just chucking threes.

514
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: Yep. Three's dunks. There's really no kind of nuance to

515
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: the game. None.

516
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: And it's fun when people really try to play d

517
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: at the end of a game.

518
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you can get rid of it.

519
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: Do you move it back?

520
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: Where can it go, you'd have to get rid of

521
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: the corner three if you moved it back anymore. So

522
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: if you could put a line like somewhere between the

523
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: top of the key and the half court and say

524
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,239
Speaker 2: if you shoot from back here, that's worth three, but

525
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: maybe that would I don't know.

526
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: It's it is. It's tough.

527
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: If the last couple of minutes are great, if it's engaged,

528
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: it's a close game. Other than that, it's just kind

529
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: of trade and pick. Playoffs are good.

530
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: But even some of those games suck individually.

531
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 4: My game seven is that's what's so great about the

532
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 4: NFL is every game.

533
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: The playoffs of the game seven.

534
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: That's why football. That's why football is one and two

535
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: in this country. The advantage of football is there's every

536
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: game matters. That's the difference.

537
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 4: So you're talking about corner threes. I was in my

538
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: random scroll yesterday, YEP, I came across a video that

539
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: had Tony Parker all right, and it was somebody from

540
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 4: the Celtics teams or from the it was from the Heat.

541
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: Ray Allen was on the Heat when he hit the

542
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 4: corner three and three, So somebody was on that Heat team,

543
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 4: but it wasn't Lebron or Boscher Wade obviously, actually Wade

544
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: was in there, but he wasn't the one telling this story.

545
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: So they were talking about that shot, and you know,

546
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: they show the replay of it, and Tony Parker goes,

547
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 4: I closed out.

548
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: I was right there, he said.

549
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't found because Pop would have been all over

550
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: me if I fouled him, he said, But and I

551
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: was there, like I was in his bringing the ball.

552
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: I was right there, he says. Was one of the

553
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: greatest shots I've ever seen. And he said, what it

554
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 4: was so crazy to him is how Alan was able

555
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: to sprint to the corner, yeah, backwards, catch it, shoot it,

556
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: never look at his feet, know that he was not

557
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 4: only behind the line, but not out of bounds, which

558
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 4: is not.

559
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: A big amount of room.

560
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: And so the guy in the heat told the story

561
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: that every day after practice, Alan would lie on the

562
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 4: ground under the basket, somebody would slap the ball. He

563
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 4: would hop up, sprint to the corner, back pedaling so

564
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: that he could catch it and shoot it without going

565
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: and have somebody watching.

566
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: Make sure you're telling me that. Yes, they said he

567
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: did it.

568
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 4: Every after every practice, like a hundred times, so that

569
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: he like they were as surprised as anybody who was

570
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: watching that was at that shot went in. The guys

571
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: on the heat were like, this is the best possible

572
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: scenario because he literally does this every single day from

573
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: the ground. He starts lying on the ground, hops himself up,

574
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 4: gets out there, back pedals to the back.

575
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: Doesn't look boom. So he knew it was a total

576
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: muscle memory shot. That's great, it's crazy. That's great though.

577
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: They like the preparation. Preparation it paid off. Man, that's incredible,

578
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: Big Lee.

579
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: I've never heard that story that I just shouldn't miss

580
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: this free throw, shouldn't miss the free throws, and you're fine,

581
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: make your free throws and you.

582
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: Have to worry about it.

583
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: Poe with this, He says his great grandmos Off the

584
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: boat from Poland would make homemade parogis by the hundreds

585
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: until her nineties. Ten out of ten dish. There is

586
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: a nostalgia to him. There's no question, uh. For those

587
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: of you who grew up with them, Dave says, the

588
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: perfect parogi dinner is sauer kraut and kilbasa, sour cream

589
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: and hot sauce. That's so much going on, I can't

590
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: even imagine taking that.

591
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 4: See to me, I'm and I'm a dumpling guy, but

592
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: I need meat in my dumpling.

593
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to throw lobster in there?

594
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 5: Great?

595
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: You want to do they? No, then I don't think

596
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: it's a prog anymore.

597
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 9: Sounds like a dish from my childhood, Sauer kraut, perogis

598
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 9: and kobasi.

599
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 3: Oh that was it. Yeah, like growing up here, that's

600
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: what I could digest.

601
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: Why don't we make I want to challenge it. Why

602
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: don't we make a shepherd's pie perogi? So you're still

603
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: getting the essence of a progy and that you're getting

604
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: the dumpling with some mashed potato in there. But then

605
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: you're also gonna get a little ground lamb, maybe some peas,

606
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: some carrots.

607
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it would.

608
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: Least would there's some nutritional value and there's some subject Yeah,

609
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: some protein, Yeah, a little bit of protein that's straight

610
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: like that's carbs, stuff with carbs.

611
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: That's correct.

612
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then topped with fat that's right, with a

613
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: side of fat that's right.

614
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: Four Yeah, that's it, drenched in butter. Yeah.

615
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: There's a reason people on the coasts maybe are a

616
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: little they don't they're not exposed to they look a

617
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: little different, a little bit different, a little.

618
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: Bit of different. Indeed. Yeah, so the Kelseys did well.

619
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: That was cool to see them.

620
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a great I saw this morning on

621
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: their podcast, Travis talked to Jason about his retirement and

622
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: like got really emotional with it, with with the story.

623
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: It's a great story.

624
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 8: God bless I love.

625
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: That he put that in there.

626
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: Speaking of did you see the story about the guy

627
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: who has taped him his entire career?

628
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: No?

629
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: Oh, man, his taped Jason taped Jason as in the

630
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 4: athletic trainer who taped him?

631
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: Oh, tape him up? Ye, like taped. This will take

632
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: me but one second. Yeah, you're good.

633
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: Initially I thought you meant like he had a video

634
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: recorder on him the whole time, but instead actually taped

635
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: his ankles.

636
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: His name on Instagram was trainer Joe Oh And there's

637
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 4: a picture of him and Kelsey hugging each other and

638
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: he says, I remember back in Jason's second year.

639
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: This is actually I think this is worth three So

640
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. You can get it for me.

641
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: I remember back in Jason's second year when he tore

642
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: his knee. I went to the head trainer and told

643
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: him that I needed to do his rehab because he

644
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: needed to be treated like an athlete, not a conventional

645
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. What would occur over the next twelve plus

646
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: years would certainly impact my life in a way I

647
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: never would imagine. You all know about the on field

648
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 4: accomplishments and many of the off field ones too, But

649
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: what this man has meant to me and now my

650
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: family over the past decade plus is nearly indescribable. From

651
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: being his wing bowl cornerman, to our long rehab sessions

652
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: followed by knights out on the town, to sleeping on

653
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: each other's couches, to being in each other's weddings, to

654
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: Cisle City polar bear plunges, to the Super Bowl appearances

655
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: in a ring. We were doing it, We were there,

656
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: doing it together, And in what would be his final season,

657
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: when I was diagnosed with cancer and had to undergo

658
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: radiation chemo, he offered his shorehouse if I ever needed

659
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: to get away, and offered to pay for meal services

660
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: to help my wife and I out, And he called

661
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 4: me randomly when I had been home too sick to

662
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: come in because of chemo, just to check on me

663
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: and chat about random things. That's who he is as

664
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: a person. I tape this guy's ankles and thumbs every

665
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Speaker 4: day for thirteen seasons. And when he played his last

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Speaker 4: game in Tampa again, I could not be there due

667
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Speaker 4: to cancer. And when he told me he would be retiring,

668
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Speaker 4: I expressed my regret of not being the last person

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Speaker 4: to ever tape him up, and he offered to have

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Speaker 4: me tape him up for his retirement press conference.

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Speaker 3: So if you notice he was taped up for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's who he is.

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Speaker 4: And I hope these stories can add to an already

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Speaker 4: unbelievable legacy.

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Speaker 3: Come on, that's great. Yeah, what a guy.

676
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Speaker 5: What a guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he goes on and basically say I love

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Speaker 3: him and progress the family and thank you for the men.

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Speaker 3: But that's incredible, awesome. It gives you, It gives you

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Speaker 3: the emotions. Yeah, life's all about.

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Speaker 2: That's it, man, That's absolutely what life is all about.

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Speaker 2: Those are your Hot Topics Today, presented by Vivid Seats,

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Speaker 2: official fan experienced partner of your Cleveland Browns. There are

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Speaker 2: reports out there that there could be a mutual well

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Speaker 2: we know there's a mutual interest, but that Joe Flack

686
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Speaker 2: on the Browns have met about a potential reunion.

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Speaker 3: We will get to that.

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Speaker 2: We had some big names released yesterday, some franchise tags applied.

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Speaker 2: It feels like Cousins kind is going to be the

690
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Speaker 2: one that goes first, or will be the one that

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Speaker 2: has to kind of go first. We'll get to all

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Speaker 2: of that coming up next. To listen to Cleve the

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Speaker 2: has met with the Browns about a possible reunion. He

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Speaker 2: said as much that he'd want to take some time

712
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Speaker 2: see what was out there, but that he really enjoyed

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Speaker 2: his time and would like to be back.

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Speaker 4: Least surprising thing ever, Do I think that he'll get

715
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: an opportunity to start somewhere. I do, so We'll have

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Speaker 4: to see what that that looks like for Joe flaccol

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Speaker 4: I would love to have him back as a backup.

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Speaker 3: How many jobs do we got?

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Speaker 5: One?

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Speaker 3: Ah ahead, make your point on say.

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Speaker 4: One thing that's in trusting though, is as we are

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00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: transitioning a little bit of our offense to be more

723
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson centric, let's not say that we couldn't go

724
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Speaker 4: back to some of our core concepts that Flaco ran

725
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: very well.

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Speaker 3: You know, you just.

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Speaker 4: Wonder does that does he fit what we're doing? I

728
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Speaker 4: want when I'm just asking that as a question, fair question.

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00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: I want Joe Flacco back. I couldn't have loved the

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Speaker 4: guy anymore. Every time I got talked to him was

731
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Speaker 4: a delight. When he was in the studio with us here,

732
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Speaker 4: absolute delight. You mentioned earlier in the show the season

733
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Speaker 4: was magic. A big part of that was Flacco. Yes,

734
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: the magical feel part of it was Flacca. Where we

735
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: feel like we got cheated was the Browns season needed

736
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Speaker 4: to either continue or end in Baltimore. We needed to

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Speaker 4: beat Houston. You need to have Flacco return to Baltimore.

738
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Speaker 4: That's how you know it's not scripted. If it was scripted, folks,

739
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: we would have gone to Baltimore period, end of story. Yes,

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Speaker 4: because there would have been no bigger matchup Brown's Ravens

741
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Speaker 4: Flacco off of it.

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Speaker 2: So I like how that was the threshold for yeah,

743
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 2: you know it's not scripted. That's as opposed to everything.

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00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: That's the one all the rest of it. Also, well, yeah,

745
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: well listen't it. We're when you line them up. I'm

746
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: just lining up on exhibit A. It was just exhibit A.

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Speaker 3: I would love it.

748
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Speaker 4: I think he is such a good influence and I

749
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: think that his presence would give you kind of another

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00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 4: coach in that room. And also if he was here

751
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: for a full offseason, I think he could really help

752
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: the Shawn with some of that back to the field

753
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: defense because he can say, look, this is what I'm

754
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Speaker 4: looking at. This is these are my keys. This is

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Speaker 4: what I'm reading. This is how he decided. I think

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Speaker 4: it would be very good.

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Speaker 3: I will. I couldn't. That's I would love it. Same.

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Speaker 2: Here are the team now, you tell me who I'm

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Speaker 2: leaving out. These are the teams who I think either.

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Speaker 2: I think there are only five teams who for sure

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Speaker 2: will have a new quarterback. Well, I think he's only

762
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: four teams that will for sure have a new quarterback

763
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: New England, Atlanta, Denver, in Vegas. I think Tampa Bay could,

764
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Speaker 2: depending on how this all shakes out and what their

765
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: interests are like, they may be in the Justin Fields market. Now,

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Speaker 2: if Atlanta is gonna go Cousins, which it seems like

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00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: that's the way that's going to go, then if you're

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, do you flip right away into fields and

769
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Speaker 2: say he can throw a deep ball to Mike Evans,

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Speaker 2: that's one thing he can do.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he broached that yesterday. I thought it made a

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Speaker 3: lot of sense. Yeah. The two that I have questioned

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Speaker 3: marks would be Minnesota if Cousins leaves, which seems like

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Speaker 3: he is, which.

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Speaker 2: Seems like he is, and then Pittsburgh who But I

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Speaker 2: don't know what they're I don't understand. Well, we'll have

777
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: brook Prior on at two o'clock. Yeah, maybe some clarity

778
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: on what their thought is. But when you talk about

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Speaker 2: Flacco starting, you've got cousins, You've got there aren't fields.

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Speaker 4: Russ Flacco would start in New England if New England

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Speaker 4: drafts a quarterback and they wanted him there to be.

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Speaker 3: The bridge mentor.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and supposedly they also are interested in Jacoby Brissett

784
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Speaker 4: in the same role.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: There is a one where he's going in and it's like, no, no,

787
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Speaker 4: you're Joe Flacco our starter for twenty twenty four.

788
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Speaker 3: No, no, be bridge And so that's that would be

789
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Speaker 3: New England.

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Speaker 4: Look at him, Look at him, Look at him, look

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Speaker 4: at him, just pacing by God Monico today. She's not

792
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 4: a fan of it, not happy with it at all,

793
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Speaker 4: just running a business.

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Speaker 3: She's not a bigger fan of the peacocking. She doesn't

795
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: like it. She even went thumbs down, thumbs down against it.

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Speaker 3: Adamantly anti peacocking. If this is the man's runway.

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Speaker 4: Anti senior swag, anti swag anti senior swag, i don't

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Speaker 4: know how you.

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Speaker 2: Could be anti senior Swag's running a business. You do

800
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: it at your own peril very much. Some big names

801
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: released yesterday. Jamal Adams quadre Diggs will Disley all from Seattle,

802
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Jerome Baker from Miami released the Jaguars released, Darius Williams

803
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: was released there. Eric Kendrick Kendrick's rather with the Chargers

804
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: as well. Among those who were released franchise, I didn't

805
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Speaker 2: want to say the name for you that was on

806
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Speaker 2: our boards. Jalen Johnson was a franchise in Pittsburgh, Josh

807
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Allen with the Jaguars, and Kyle Duggar, who I always remember.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar.

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Speaker 2: We must have been it must have been the Delpit

810
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Speaker 2: draft r Lenora Ryan. I remember Dane brug was saying

811
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Speaker 2: that over and over. Kyle Duggery.

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Speaker 4: He loved Kyle and he had that horrific game we

813
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Speaker 4: played in New England. He had a pick six off

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Speaker 4: of Bake early in that one. He also is represented

815
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Speaker 4: by the Agent to the Stars.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, it's.

817
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: This is the He got kind of done dirty by

818
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 4: the New England Patriots right here, did they really?

819
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

820
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: Transition tagging him that means he's probably not going to

821
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Speaker 4: get any offers. This is a guy that was looking

822
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Speaker 4: at big money on a multi year deal, big guarantees,

823
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Speaker 4: and now he's basically locked into a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: Hmmmm mm hmm. Cruel game this one. Yeah, it's a

825
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: it's a it's a tough business.

826
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Broncos are going to let Russell Wilson meet with

827
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: teams before legal tampering period begins, so he's going to

828
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: do so with permission. Cousins Wilson fields and then it

829
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: feels like Baker is the the fourth in there and

830
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Speaker 2: depending on what the first three do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be wild, right And and.

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Speaker 2: Like somebody had like Minnesota with Baker, if they lose Cousins,

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Speaker 2: I don't see that at all, Like to me, like

834
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Speaker 2: Quazy would.

835
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Speaker 3: He I don't know that he would go down.

836
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't feel like a fit to me.

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00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 4: No, he would have at least some comfort. And there

839
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: is tape of him playing well in a similar styled

840
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: offense in the second half of twenty twenty. Yeah, and

841
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 4: you know, doing some nice things with McVeigh, So there

842
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: are similar principles there.

843
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know there aren't many jobs. No,

844
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: there aren't.

845
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: Asian I've given you there's it's New England, Denver. Other

846
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: than like Washington's taking a quarterback, Bears are taking Caleb Williams.

847
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: So like those are the no brainer things. But then

848
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: after that, and then by the way, to further.

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Speaker 3: Did you mention your point?

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00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: I did?

851
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, to further prove your point, you could have

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00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: five first round quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Right, So there are in the a FEE West two

854
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: open jobs. In the FC South.

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00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: I think you could make the case that there are none. Yeah,

856
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: AFC North none. Well, I guess steelers, so that's three. Well,

857
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: count steelers, that's three Patriots is four? So there's four

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00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: in the AFC. Yeah, NFC commanders, five Vikings, six Bears.

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00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: We won't count. We really shouldn't count commanders. It shouldn't

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00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: count the patriots of the commanders. And listen, New England could.

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00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: Zag though they could true open jobs. It's Atlanta, Denver, Tampa,

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00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Vegas right now, Tampa, right now, Tampa.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: That's the list, true open jobs, right now.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where you're at. Hey, where are you going

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Speaker 2: to be when Billy, Joel and Ron Stewart performed together

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Sep Cleveland Brown Stadium, bron you better be there.

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Speaker 3: Four Like it's September thirteenth?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one night only.

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Speaker 4: Now again, Well theoretically one night only says one night

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Speaker 4: only now one night only here. I think it's possible

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Speaker 4: they could do like could they also do this in

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Speaker 4: England for example?

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, but you don't know. It's not scheduled. Listen,

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Speaker 3: we know you never know. You can't take anything for granted.

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Speaker 2: And now let's go back last week to Indian coach

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Speaker 2: defense get the podium.

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Speaker 10: Kind of what Larry King was asking about getting a

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Speaker 10: new input for the offense and trying to maximize the

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Speaker 10: sean How important is it to get guys who have

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Speaker 10: been in college like.

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Speaker 11: Commune to add to that it can be I just

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Speaker 11: I think the game, as you know, Scott, like, you're

902
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Speaker 11: always trying to stay ahead of all the evolutions of

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Speaker 11: this game is that are taking place. And that's one

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Speaker 11: of the things that you know, what keeps me up

905
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Speaker 11: at night is where's the game going? Where's the offensive

906
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Speaker 11: game going? I tell people all the time that you

907
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Speaker 11: can put tape on from twenty years ago, or call

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Speaker 11: it fifteen years ago, when I'm I'm on the sideline

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Speaker 11: of those games and but game doesn't resemble.

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Speaker 5: Our current game. You just think about shotgun? How simple

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Speaker 5: that is, right?

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Speaker 11: Shotgun has shot up a ton in the last fifteen years,

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Speaker 11: so it's like, what are those evolutions coming? And oftentimes

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Speaker 11: those plays from high school college make their way to

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Speaker 11: the NFL.

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Speaker 5: So certainly we're always looking at plays that.

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Speaker 10: Maybe will be showing up on something we looked in

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Speaker 10: specifically when like for Tommy a guy like yeah, that

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Speaker 10: factored into you know.

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Speaker 5: Wanting that Tommy or our stuff.

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Speaker 3: Where do you think offense is going?

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Speaker 5: Great question. I'm not gonna tell you everybody else you know,

923
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Speaker 5: but yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean you look at every trend throughout the league

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Speaker 11: and what's what are people doing a lot of? And

926
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Speaker 11: then it's okay, what can we zig while everybody else has.

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Speaker 11: Those are the type of conversations we have. So the

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Speaker 11: game it will always be evolving based on the players,

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Speaker 11: based on the players that are coming in, based on

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Speaker 11: the rules that are changing year to year.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just trying to stay ahead of the evolution.

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Speaker 5: That Tommy was a ballboy for the Browns when he

933
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Speaker 5: was a kid, before he got bold, I did know.

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Speaker 11: I didn't know the ballpoy part, but I knew Tommy

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Speaker 11: had been in the boat for it was his dad

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Speaker 11: working there, So I know when when he came in

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Speaker 11: for his.

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Speaker 5: Interview, there were a couple of people that recognized him

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Speaker 5: with the Greenbrier. Did you know immediately you want that

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Speaker 5: you wanted to go back or is that like maybe recently.

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't say immediately, but once you got down there,

942
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Speaker 11: once we were leaving there, just based on the experience,

943
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Speaker 11: what you don't want to do is say, you know.

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Speaker 5: We had a good year or a bad year. It's

945
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Speaker 5: all tied back to that. That's not increase. But coming

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Speaker 5: out of there, I thought we got our work done.

947
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Speaker 5: I thought we whatever we did in terms of the

948
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Speaker 5: players being around each other with was positive. It's a

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Speaker 5: beautiful environment.

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Speaker 11: They treated us great down there, so felt pretty strongly

951
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Speaker 11: shortly thereafter we.

952
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Speaker 5: Left there that would be a very good things.

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Speaker 12: We turned the Ken ondoorse serious question again in your

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Speaker 12: heating process with did you address the angry issue he

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Speaker 12: was presented in that point a lot.

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Speaker 5: I know Ken, I need to well, I know Ken,

957
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Speaker 5: I know what he's about, and he is so hyper competitive.

958
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Speaker 5: That's who he is.

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Speaker 11: The stories of him playing pick up basketball or or

960
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Speaker 11: you know, legendary. He wants to win, he wants to

961
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Speaker 11: and look at his career as a player. You know

962
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Speaker 11: what the teams he was on, how he competed like crazy.

963
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Speaker 11: So I think he's just such a competitive person. But

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Speaker 11: that one moment is is really not a big deal.

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Speaker 5: Real, he stays, We'll work through it. Kevin.

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Speaker 13: With the run game, I mean, what are the challenges

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Speaker 13: when you don't have Nick back fully yet? Obviously you

968
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Speaker 13: have a new position coach, you have Jerome? You know,

969
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Speaker 13: you guys are still trying to develop, Like what is

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Speaker 13: that going to look like these next you know, handful.

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Speaker 5: Of Months's a good question.

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Speaker 11: Again, those are all things that we're discussing and working through.

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Speaker 11: I'm excited about Deuce and the impact that he's gonna

974
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Speaker 11: have on that room. You know, you mentioned Jerome. Deuce

975
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Speaker 11: is a guy that have played at a high level.

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Speaker 11: He's developed young guys.

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Speaker 5: He brings his own ideas based on the schemes that

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Speaker 5: he's been in over the years. But we're working through

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00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: all that. You're than the fact that the fact that

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Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey kind of came out of Brian Dable and

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Speaker 5: Joe O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: Sort of trickled down. How much do you think that

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Speaker 3: will help in him working with He's got that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think all, all of that is important, Uh

985
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Speaker 5: Mary kay.

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Speaker 11: You know Ken's been in a bunch of different systems.

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Speaker 11: I know most recently you mentioned DABS and what they're

988
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Speaker 11: doing in Buffalo, but Ken has been in versions of

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Speaker 11: the nerve system, which I was also in when he

990
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Speaker 11: was in Carolina. So he he sees the game very

991
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Speaker 11: we see the game very similarly. But all of his

992
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Speaker 11: experiences I think are important.

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Speaker 12: When he brings with Duke Duce so supposedly has some

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Speaker 12: legendary competitive practices which forwards yea and fill, it's like

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Speaker 12: discover is that part of the attraction to him is

996
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Speaker 12: letting the fire.

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Speaker 11: Into that not not necessarily, I mean that's part of

998
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Speaker 11: who Deuce is. Dus brings the energy every single day.

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Speaker 11: He does a great job just even in our with

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Speaker 11: our staff bringing it every day. H you know, he

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Speaker 11: he definitely is is a guy that you're gonna hear

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Speaker 11: out there on the practice field.

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Speaker 5: He may have some shouting matches with coaches at times,

1004
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Speaker 5: and that might happen so I may have to intervene.

1005
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 5: But again, a very very competitive guy.

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Speaker 14: And I know that you are working through things and

1007
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Speaker 14: have meetings that they're coming up, But was there like

1008
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Speaker 14: a shared philosophy with you and Ken when you were

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Speaker 14: interviewing and everybody decided to hire him, that you thought

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Speaker 14: you both like this and this is going to continue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think Ken, again going back to his background,

1012
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Speaker 5: is buried. So he's somebody that there's not many plays

1013
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Speaker 5: that he hasn't ried or of the systems that he

1014
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Speaker 5: hasn't run. So he's open minded.

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Speaker 11: I think that's where we are as an office staff

1016
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Speaker 11: offensive staff right now we put this thing back together,

1017
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Speaker 11: is what fits our guys and what.

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00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 5: I think that's the way that we feel.

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00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 11: Like you've got about concepts n be hasna to fit

1020
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Speaker 11: our guys, and I think Ken's uniquely in a position.

1021
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Speaker 6: But kind of going back to the t building stuff

1022
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Speaker 6: with Greenberg last year you did that week in LA

1023
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Speaker 6: you have to West Western trips?

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Speaker 3: Is that something that you you're have you requested a similar.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we'll get there, not yet on the schedule necessarily.

1026
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Speaker 5: I think our religious.

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Speaker 11: Teams would want to kill me.

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Speaker 5: I people playing at all these trips. No, I think

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Speaker 5: we we'll see how it goes, but not necessarily there yet.

1030
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Speaker 5: In terms of her question, never we'll see. Yeah, I

1031
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Speaker 5: don't have any answer. I don't know. Uh. I know

1032
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Speaker 5: that's been reported, but I I don't.

1033
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Speaker 14: I don't know Kevin w Elijah more. Do you feel

1034
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Speaker 14: like he may have been someone that suffered from all

1035
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Speaker 14: the turnover and to bring involving d our quarterback.

1036
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Speaker 5: Do you think the upside is so much higher for it?

1037
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Speaker 6: I do.

1038
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Speaker 5: I mean you look at Elijah's just look at the numbers.

1039
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 5: I mean, he has a career year, and I think

1040
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 5: that was for a reason.

1041
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 11: I even I feel really strong about him and the player.

1042
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 11: As you know, when you are moving different quarterbacks in there,

1043
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Speaker 11: that can affect it.

1044
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 5: Uh.

1045
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 11: You know, you look at the Jets game where Mari's

1046
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Speaker 11: out and Elijah went right to the focal part and

1047
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Speaker 11: just making plays up and down the field.

1048
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Speaker 5: Before he got hurt. So I know what he's capable of.

1049
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Speaker 8: Uh.

1050
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Speaker 5: And after a career year, we anticipated him and even

1051
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Speaker 5: getting there.

1052
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Speaker 2: Valuable was just Kent's previous work with other quarterbacks that

1053
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Speaker 2: are sort of the same.

1054
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Speaker 5: I guess conceptually what DeShawn would do in terms of

1055
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Speaker 5: like him new.

1056
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Speaker 3: Rash Allan and I guess we're some of the things

1057
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Speaker 3: that you guys.

1058
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Speaker 13: Are putting your heads together that he kind of was

1059
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Speaker 13: bringing the table that you hope you can pull out

1060
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 13: of the shot.

1061
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's definitely part of it. With Ken's experience. Ken

1062
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Speaker 11: has a lot of experience with a bunch of different quarterbacks,

1063
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Speaker 11: but notably like you mentioned Josh Allen cam new As.

1064
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Speaker 5: We all know that the game in this NFL is

1065
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Speaker 5: evolving constantly year to year. So I think Ken is

1066
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Speaker 5: a person with his experience with what he's been exposed to.

1067
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Speaker 5: He I feel really confident with him running our meetings,

1068
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Speaker 5: making sure that we're staying at it.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle the fact that you've got to

1070
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Speaker 2: Shaan coming off with his shoulder injury, You've got Kenw's

1071
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Speaker 2: work with two guys that.

1072
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Speaker 5: You know callowed you guys like the mind manners.

1073
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Speaker 3: How do you handle the whole running piece with Deshan?

1074
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Speaker 13: And how you what were you challenge to you with?

1075
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Speaker 5: Right? I think they're all All quarterbacks are different.

1076
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Speaker 11: Mary Kay and like you mentioned Josh Allen cam Newton

1077
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Speaker 11: are different. DeShawn has always been very mobile. He will

1078
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Speaker 11: always continue to be very mobile. We'll always teach him

1079
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Speaker 11: and coach him up on me and smart because he's

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Speaker 11: doing a great player for us. We don't want him

1081
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Speaker 11: to get injured, as we know, as important as that

1082
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Speaker 11: position is, but that's always going to be part of

1083
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 11: his game. So Ken and I will constantly, you know,

1084
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Speaker 11: coach all of our quarterbacks to make sure that they're

1085
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Speaker 11: taking care of the games.

1086
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Speaker 10: When you talk about their backup quarterback and others, de

1087
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Speaker 10: Sean coming off the shoulder just around the league, a

1088
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Speaker 10: bunch of guys other Do you think there's more value

1089
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 10: in having an experienced guy behind Sean?

1090
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Speaker 11: We'll see, you know, I think there's certainly his value

1091
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 11: of experience, of course, but we'll see how it all

1092
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Speaker 11: shakes out.

1093
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Speaker 5: I thought Dorian did a great job for us.

1094
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Speaker 11: Abody got better as the season went on, as you

1095
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Speaker 11: would expect a young player, So I expect him to

1096
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Speaker 11: take a big jumping in year one two as well.

1097
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Speaker 5: Surprise well a lot of different guys.

1098
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Speaker 14: But I think back specifically last season Jeremiah putting on

1099
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Speaker 14: a bunch of muscles.

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Speaker 5: While he was an Alcali and Deegan and doing that.

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Speaker 14: What does it say about players who use this time

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Speaker 14: is oft time to kind of level up and work

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00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 14: on things that they want to and that you guys

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Speaker 14: are kind of.

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Speaker 5: Looking forward to.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's a great point about Jay Okay.

1107
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 11: He was very intentional hitting stronger last year, and I

1108
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 11: thought that show does play, and he showed to him

1109
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 11: being a build and his strength not just in how

1110
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 11: he plays, but being able to.

1111
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 5: Take the wear and tear with the seventeen year season.

1112
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 5: So he's something that works very hard off the field that,

1113
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 5: like you mentioned, it's a unique situation for but I

1114
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 5: would tell you there's there's guys. I'm sure that we're

1115
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 5: in Maria this morning working out.

1116
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 11: There's guys really all over the globe right now with

1117
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 11: us working out, not because they have to, but because

1118
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 11: that's part.

1119
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: Of their jobs and making sure that they're keeping their body.

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Speaker 15: Throwing out a shotgun versus under center.

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00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, going out a shotgun versus under center.

1122
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's it's part of the shotguns really

1123
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 11: the majority of plays now, where whereas that was so different.

1124
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 11: I can remember early in my career we were third

1125
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 11: and ten, we were under center, So that's just changed.

1126
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 11: I think the timing, you know, the classically trained guy,

1127
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 11: some of the timing coming from under center is just

1128
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 11: a little bit different from the gun, just based on.

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00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 5: The time that the ball travels back to quarterback but

1130
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: as you've seen, we'll do both.

1131
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 11: I believe there's ways to play the game, whether you're

1132
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 11: in the gun, whether you're under center in the pistol.

1133
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: There's definitely ways to do a variety of things.

1134
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 6: Kevin m with your later draft picks. How beneficial are

1135
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: these meetings and interviews getting a chance to be in

1136
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 6: front of them and.

1137
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 8: Get to know them personally.

1138
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's really important, and I think we try very

1139
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 11: hard here to get in front of the players. We'll

1140
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 11: have zooms with the players that we don't catch here.

1141
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 11: We'll bring players into our building in the spring. Is

1142
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 11: part of our thirty visits. So all of these are

1143
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 11: exposures for us. And as you know, when you're making

1144
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 11: these decisions and you're adding these guys to your team,

1145
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 11: you want to find out as much as you can

1146
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 11: about them, and sometimes in fifteen minutes it's hard to

1147
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 11: find out everything. So our scouts do a great job

1148
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 11: as information gathers and trying to teach you about a

1149
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 11: guy and then you know, explain what a guy is about.

1150
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 11: But ultimately getting them in your building or here, getting

1151
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 11: in front of them, I think.

1152
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 5: Is really important.

1153
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 13: I know you guys have obviously a handful of guys

1154
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 13: on that D line. I know there's turn over every year,

1155
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 13: but they're due to be free. Just how confident are you, guys,

1156
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 13: that you're gonna be able to, you know, rebuild, replenish

1157
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 13: that room however you want to work it.

1158
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 5: I think, you know what, we'll work hard to do

1159
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: what's right. I know Andrew has a.

1160
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 11: Plan and he is ready to go in that regard,

1161
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 11: but it was an important position for us and that

1162
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 11: will always you know, just like the offense a line,

1163
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 11: really both lines.

1164
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 5: Are super important to us.

1165
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 15: Kevin on that out line, I know you'll never say

1166
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 15: you could have too many tackles, but with three guys

1167
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 15: who probably want to start, do you think one of

1168
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 15: those guys will be able to handle maybe not playing?

1169
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: If that happens, it's.

1170
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 11: A great problem to have, you know. I feel awesome

1171
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 11: about all of our guys, but the three guys you're

1172
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 11: talking about.

1173
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: I feel great about it. Do you feel like you

1174
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 5: have enough really good, strong weapons for DeShawn and will

1175
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 5: you solicit income from him? On that topic and taking

1176
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 5: a game.

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Speaker 11: Consideration, yeah, any quarterback I've ever been around would always

1178
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 11: take more guys, of course, But I think you know,

1179
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 11: to Shaun trusts Andrew. I trust Andrew. We'll go through

1180
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 11: this process and do what is right for the team.

1181
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 11: But certainly, you know you're always trying to add as

1182
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 11: many weapons again, Kevin.

1183
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: Last year switched to Jim, Him and Bubba seem to

1184
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 5: go really well.

1185
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: Did that give you any more comfort in switching all

1186
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: the guys on offense this year?

1187
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah? I wouldn't characterize it that way. I would just

1188
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 5: you know, Jim and Bubba.

1189
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 11: You know, I'm really really excited about those guys, and

1190
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 11: you know, what we're able to accomplish in year one

1191
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 11: I think was really impressive and are things that you know,

1192
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 11: we looked for a big jump.

1193
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: From year one and two as well.

1194
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: What did you think of your be minus grade from

1195
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: your players?

1196
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know report card season. I guess you know,

1197
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 11: we talked about it a little bit earlier. I feel

1198
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 11: really confident that the players can give me input whenever

1199
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Speaker 11: they see fit.

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00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 5: So would you rather get an A in that no

1201
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 5: Coach of the Year rather no comment? Kevin?

1202
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 15: When it comes to, you know, wanting to stay ahead

1203
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 15: of trends on offense, would you pick like Jim's brain,

1204
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 15: Jim Schwartz's brain and kind of see what we're seeing.

1205
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we talked about it all the time.

1206
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 11: I mean, and again, there's there's nuance to this game,

1207
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 11: and there's things that show up in a given season.

1208
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 5: There's things that show up in the super Bowl that

1209
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 5: are gonna up in Week one.

1210
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 11: And maybe it was just a little bit different of emotion,

1211
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 11: or maybe it's a different formation, or maybe hey, they

1212
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 11: taught that concept slightly differently than we teach it.

1213
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 5: What are the advantages of that?

1214
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 11: So that's the fun part of the off season for

1215
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 11: us is looking at where these trends are going. So

1216
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 11: we look at the trends both from a data standpoint,

1217
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 11: you know, let's gather all this information, let's look at it.

1218
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: What literal trends and play type do we see going up?

1219
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: Do we see going down? And then from a coaching perspective,

1220
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 5: as we watch all this tape, hey, teams are doing

1221
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: a lot of this why a lot of the pre

1222
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 5: snap motion.

1223
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 11: Why are they doing and what advantages are they gaining?

1224
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 11: So that's what the spring is about. And then I

1225
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 11: think it's fun for us as we see it all

1226
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 11: show up. Then in the fall, as teams start to

1227
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 11: implement some.

1228
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Speaker 5: Of those changes you playing Ken you to pick up

1229
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Speaker 5: no I retired?

1230
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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, coach from the Combine coming

1231
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: up next week. Continue behind enemy Lines on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: now for ESPN NFL Nation Steelers reporter, a great friend

1241
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Speaker 2: of the program, A Brook prior joining us, talk a

1242
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: little bit about the Steelers their situation. She joins on

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Speaker 3: Keep it Twisted, Cleveland, Brook, thanks so much for taking

1246
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: the time. They are they really not going to get

1247
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: a quarterback?

1248
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 5: Here? Is this? Is this real?

1249
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: They're not gonna They're not adding to that room.

1250
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 5: Brook.

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Speaker 6: That is everything that I'm hearing I was in India.

1252
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 6: I was in Indianapolis last week at the Combine, and

1253
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 6: all of the conversations I had were very much that

1254
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 6: the Steelers are going to roll with the guys they have,

1255
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 6: obviously Kenny Pickett being the only one under contract right now.

1256
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 6: But it kind of feels at this point it's more

1257
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 6: likely than not that Mason Rudolph returns to kind of

1258
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 6: compete with Kenny Pickett or be the guy to push

1259
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 6: Kenny Pickett in a quarterback competition in training camp. And

1260
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 6: you know, then maybe they draft a guy and you know,

1261
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 6: a second day pick, maybe third day pick. But I

1262
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 6: think if if you've got you know, photoshops or edits

1263
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 6: of Justin Fields in a Steelers uniform, or Russell Wilson

1264
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 6: or Kirk Cousins, you put those in the trash folder,

1265
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 6: maybe save them for later, just in case crazier things

1266
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 6: have happened. But I don't see it at this point.

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Speaker 3: Are you surprised by that?

1268
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not, because it goes against everything the

1269
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: Steelers have done. Now, It's not what I would do,

1270
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 6: but I am not in charge of the Pittsburgh Steelers organization.

1271
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 6: They are incredibly loyal so we know I know that

1272
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 6: about them, right, I mean, they want to stick with

1273
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 6: their guy. They want to say, hey, we were right

1274
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 6: about Kenny Pickett when we drafted him in the first round.

1275
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 6: So it's kind of hard to cut bait when you

1276
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 6: want to be loyal. I think I would have a

1277
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 6: hard time doing that if I was the decision maker.

1278
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 6: But that's why I am not, and I just write

1279
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: about what they do.

1280
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such an interesting thing. And we did the

1281
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: Ravens yesterday and talking a little bit about them, and

1282
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: obviously we're in this spot, you know, the Bengals are

1283
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: in this spot like all of us. All of these

1284
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: teams in the AFC are trying to track down Kansas City,

1285
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: and all of these rosters in the AFC North are

1286
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: either smacked out in the middle of the prime or

1287
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: entering it in the case of Baltimore, maybe maybe getting

1288
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: out of it in terms of some of the decisions

1289
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: they're going to have to make. But when you look

1290
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh's roster and they had a winning record, again,

1291
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: you look at it and you go, boy, if they

1292
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: just had like decent quarterback play like Russell Wilson's sixty

1293
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: seven percent completions, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks, Like if

1294
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: he's on there, doesn't that get them to eleven twelve wins?

1295
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: Where's the fan base with all this brook? Are they

1296
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: they want to run back picket? Are they convinced?

1297
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 8: Uh?

1298
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 6: That is not what Twitter tells me. Uh, let me

1299
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 6: tell you. The fan base I think is feeling pretty

1300
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 6: antsy because it's this. You know, obviously, the thing in

1301
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is the standard is the standard, and right now

1302
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: they're holding with the status quo more than trying to

1303
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 6: live up to a standard that was set by you know,

1304
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 6: the franchise in years past when they were winning Super Bowls.

1305
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 6: Right now, I think it's feels very frustrating and like

1306
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 6: they're in this purgatory of look at this roster, how

1307
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 6: can you waste TJ. Watt and mink I Fitzpatrick And

1308
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 6: you've got this electric, just offensive weapon in George Pickens

1309
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 6: and Najie Harrison, Jalen Warren and they're all these pieces

1310
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 6: and there's just this hurdle that this team is all

1311
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 6: feels like they're refusing to leap over because it would

1312
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 6: mean they have to change how they do business in

1313
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 6: terms of acquiring a quarterback, and so it kind of

1314
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 6: feels like the Steelers saying, hey, you know what, we

1315
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 6: know that maybe you guys think we need a quarterback.

1316
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 6: We know best. We think that we can win by

1317
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 6: making a team that is a run first team, a

1318
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 6: strong offensive line. We're going to invest our resources in

1319
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 6: the trenches, and we're going to try to beat all

1320
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 6: of these really good offenses with a good defense and

1321
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 6: an offense that you know, dominates time of possession. And

1322
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 6: I think that that's why they brought in Arthur Smith

1323
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 6: instead of someone from you know, like a a Clint Kubiak,

1324
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 6: somebody from you know, a more of a high flying

1325
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 6: Shanahan tape offense. They're saying, hey, we're going to commit

1326
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 6: to ground and pound and hope that that gets us,

1327
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 6: you know, back to the playoffs and maybe win a

1328
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 6: first playoff game since twenty sixteen.

1329
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: Brooke, you said you if you were running the Steelers,

1330
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: you would do something different.

1331
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: What would you do?

1332
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: What would be the Brooke prior plan for twenty twenty

1333
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: four and as you said, a hyper competitive AFC North

1334
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: Pat mahomes all of it. What would what would be

1335
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 4: your course of action? And was and was it influenced

1336
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 4: by everybody on Twitter.

1337
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I can tell you that I

1338
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: am a terrible fantasy football manager, which is probably why

1339
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 6: I am, among other reasons, not a real general manager

1340
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 6: of an NFL team. But if I'm the Steelers, I

1341
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 6: trade for Justin Fields, especially as that price tag comes down.

1342
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 6: And I know the Steelers are so good in the draft,

1343
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 6: especially in the second round. I mean last year they

1344
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 6: got Joey Porter Junior and Keanu Benton, two guys that

1345
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 6: started a lot of games, will be cornerstones I think

1346
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: of a defense for a long time. You know, they've

1347
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 6: gotten guys like George Pickens in the second round. But

1348
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 6: when I look at what Justin Fields can be, where

1349
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 6: his ceiling is, I think his ceiling is so much

1350
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 6: higher than Kenny Pickett's. I think there's a ton of potential.

1351
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 6: There's a ton of meat left on that bone. I'm

1352
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 6: trading for him, and I'm kind of saying, you know

1353
00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 6: what we have tried with Kenny Pickett. I maybe maybe

1354
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 6: Justin Fields is the flashy, shiny object that I'm being

1355
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 6: distracted by, and I should give Kenny Pickett another chance

1356
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 6: to play under an offensive coordinator that has a system

1357
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 6: that's maybe a little more sophisticated and puts him in

1358
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 6: better positions. But I would feel so tempted by Justin Fields,

1359
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 6: especially knowing he's someone that Mike Tomlin really liked coming

1360
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 6: out in the draft and I think could really flourish

1361
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh in the right right set of circumstances.

1362
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: Well, Brooke, can I just tell you on behalf of

1363
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: bo and I and I think many Cleveland Browns fans,

1364
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 4: We're glad you're not running the Steelers.

1365
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 5: That's not what we want.

1366
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: So we do not want Justin Field.

1367
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 4: We don't need chasing him around, We do not need

1368
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 4: him playing for the Pittsburgh SAI. So if quarterback, if

1369
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: it truly is much ado about nothing Kenny Pickett, and

1370
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: they're gonna obviously bring Mason Rudolf back or figure out

1371
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: a way to do that.

1372
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 3: What is the big off season story in your mind

1373
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1374
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: Well, you know, when I look at their free agency,

1375
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 6: it feels like the Steelers are in this the middle

1376
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 6: of this deja vu. I just finished writing about a

1377
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 6: thousand words on a free agency preview. The positions that

1378
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 6: they need to address in free agency are largely the

1379
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 6: same as last year. They need more inside linebackers, another corner,

1380
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 6: maybe another safety, some more offensive linemen, and I think

1381
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 6: for this team it's about trying to get something going offensively,

1382
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 6: which again feels a lot like what we talked about

1383
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 6: this time last year, where they were coming off of

1384
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 6: the second half of the season where they got into

1385
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 6: a good rhythm offensively, they got a run game established,

1386
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 6: can you pick. It looked good and it felt like, Okay,

1387
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 6: they've got to build on this momentum, and then it

1388
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 6: just kind of the tires spun in their tracks until

1389
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 6: Mason Rudolph took over the last three games of the season.

1390
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 6: I think the Steelers the story of this offseason and

1391
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 6: the story of this coming season is how can they

1392
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 6: get started faster and how can they prove that they

1393
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 6: deserve to still be considered among the NFL's elite franchises

1394
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 6: when they don't really have much of an elite record

1395
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 6: to point to recently. You know, just having a season

1396
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 6: that's above five hundred is not elite, and it's not

1397
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 6: going to do it in an AFC where Patrick Mahomes

1398
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 6: can the Chiefs can you know, trade away cut whatever

1399
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 6: all of his receivers and the Chiefs are still winning

1400
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. You know, the Steelers don't have that

1401
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 6: luxury of trying to figure things out and hoping they'll

1402
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 6: come together and just staying above five hundred, because that's

1403
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 6: how you end up in purgatory with picks that are,

1404
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 6: you know, anywhere from nineteen to you know, twenty three

1405
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 6: in that range where yeah, you're going to get a

1406
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 6: really good player, but you're not going to get maybe

1407
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 6: the type of difference maker that you'd get with the

1408
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 6: top ten pick. And if you're picking thirty one thirty two,

1409
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: that obviously things have gone really well for you in

1410
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 6: the postseason. So I think that this is a team

1411
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 6: that has to break out of that cycle one way

1412
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 6: or another.

1413
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Arthur Smith higher he was prickly certainly

1414
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 3: at times as the head coach in Atlanta. What do

1415
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: you what do you make of that fit?

1416
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: It seems it seemed to me to kind of go

1417
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: against type a little bit in terms of who they

1418
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: typically try to hire. Mike such a such a huge

1419
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: personality and force of nature. How do you sense that

1420
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: all goes together?

1421
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 4: You know?

1422
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 6: To me, the Arthur Smith hires all about Kenny Pickett,

1423
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 6: and it's all about the run game. I was just

1424
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 6: looking back at the Titans stats in Arthur Smith's last

1425
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 6: year as offensive coordinator. I believe that was the only

1426
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 6: year that Derrick Henry earned his earned an All Pro nod. Obviously,

1427
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 6: he's been a Pro Bowl player, He's an incredibly talented

1428
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 6: running back, one of the best to do it, but

1429
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 6: he really came into his own under Arthur Smith. And

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01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 6: I think that they had a very complimentary offense with

1431
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 6: Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry, and I think that that's

1432
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 6: the type of offense that the Steelers want. They see

1433
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 6: that they have players that could maybe not rep loate

1434
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 6: Derrick Henry. Nobody is going to be Derrick Henry, but

1435
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 6: I think Maggie Harrits has a similar run style. He

1436
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 6: just needs to get started earlier. And I think that

1437
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 6: also having Jalen Warren is like a complimentary style back,

1438
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 6: should also help that run game. And I think that

1439
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 6: they're trying to do things that maybe take some of

1440
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 6: the pressure off of Kenny Pickett, make it so that

1441
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 6: you know, they're making throws easier for him, doing things

1442
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 6: that just it felt like last year, not only was

1443
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 6: the offense too simple, but it was too hard. It

1444
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 6: was putting him in these positions where they weren't allowing

1445
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 6: him to throw the middle of the field. There wasn't

1446
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 6: a lot of play action, there wasn't a lot of RPL.

1447
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 6: It was incredibly frustrating to watch, and so I think

1448
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 6: that this is about putting him in a position to

1449
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 6: succeed and trying to really evaluate the status of the quarterbacks.

1450
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 6: Also why they brought in Tom Arris as a quarterbacks coach.

1451
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 6: They keep Mike Sullivan on staff. But to me, all

1452
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 6: of these hires suggest that they're pouring resources into proven

1453
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 6: that they were right in drafting Kenny Pickett, which at

1454
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 6: this point I think the jury's still.

1455
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 5: Out on it.

1456
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 4: Most certainly has talk with Brook Pryor ESPN NFL Nation

1457
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 4: reporter covering the Steelers, Brook kind of and everything. Just

1458
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 4: listening to what you were saying there. It feels like

1459
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 4: their way to make Kenny pick Out a success is

1460
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 4: to minimize him, and it feels like it feels like

1461
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 4: it's hard in this AFC, the way that it's constructed

1462
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: to win, minimizing your quarterback to actually go on a run,

1463
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Just with the quarterback gauntlet

1464
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to face in the playoffs.

1465
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 6: Yes, at the same time, you know, I think that

1466
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 6: it's minimizing it, but it's also I mean, like we

1467
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 6: were saying at the beginning of this of this this

1468
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 6: hit that if you just have a quarterback that's defense,

1469
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 6: you can make a run with the way the Steelers

1470
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 6: are constructed in terms of they have an incredibly talented defense.

1471
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 6: You you know, keep the ball away from the other

1472
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 6: team's offense with the run game, and you just have

1473
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 6: a quarterback that minimizes mistake and at least get some

1474
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 6: drives together. I think the problem with the offense last

1475
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 6: year is that there were a lot of turnovers when

1476
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 6: Pickett was in there, he was getting sacked, he was

1477
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 6: just not making smart play. I think if you have

1478
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 6: a quarterback that I know that we gosh really hate

1479
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 6: the term game manager and all of the things that

1480
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 6: come with it, but if you have a guy that

1481
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 6: I think can be a capable game manager, you know,

1482
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 6: I think that b Rock Purty is a step above

1483
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 6: a game manager. But even if he was maybe you know,

1484
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 6: a step or two back. I still think that the

1485
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 6: forty nine Ers have a very successful season. Maybe they

1486
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 6: still make it to the super Bowl. I think if

1487
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 6: you can get a similar level of play in Pittsburgh,

1488
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 6: then they have more success than they've had in the

1489
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 6: last couple of years.

1490
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1491
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things that a lot

1492
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 4: of teams in the NFL are wrestling with. Right what

1493
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: is success is success? That's a trying to be a

1494
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 4: playoff team and be a competent team or success trying

1495
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl? Is that how you define success?

1496
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: And I think that's going to be interesting. I think

1497
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 4: it's a tough one. Just our division is so tough.

1498
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 4: THEYFC is so tough, and obviously Mahomes is at this point.

1499
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 4: You know, Mahomes and Ury and the Chiefs are really

1500
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 4: kind of the gold standard. You mentioned the defense, which

1501
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: was excellent. If there were any questions maybe at all,

1502
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 4: Joey Porter Junior really came on strong, but kind of

1503
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 4: on the back end or the cornerback room. How do

1504
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 4: you feel about that room going into it? I know

1505
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: Levi Wallace is a free agent. Any do you think

1506
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 4: they maybe go there early in the draft again after

1507
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: the success with Joey Porter Jr.

1508
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually just wrote that. I think the two

1509
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 6: positions that have to be the steelers number one priority

1510
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 6: in free agency are a starting capable cornerback and a

1511
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 6: starting capable inside linebacker. They did a lot of great

1512
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 6: work at inside linebacker last year, and then all those

1513
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 6: guys got hurt except Alandon Roberts, who I think could

1514
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 6: survive a nuclear fallout because he is just so determined

1515
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 6: and so resilient. But Cole Holcomb is coming off a

1516
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 6: really severe knee injury that the timeline for his return

1517
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 6: is kind of unclear. Kwan, Alexander Torre, the Achilles. He's

1518
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 6: a free agent.

1519
01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 13: I know that they are.

1520
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 6: Interested in him, but again that's a lengthy recovery process.

1521
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 6: And then when you look at cornerback. A year ago,

1522
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 6: they did bring in Patrick Peterson, but to me, he

1523
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 6: is more valuable to this team as a versatile defensive back,

1524
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 6: you know, putting him at spot, sometimes moving him just safety,

1525
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 6: you know, just kind of being that Swiss army knife.

1526
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 6: But he doesn't have the same speed that he used

1527
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 6: to be to be I think in every down corner.

1528
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 6: So this is a really deep cornerback class. I kind

1529
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 6: of look at a guy maybe like Dane Jackson, just

1530
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 6: in terms of the way that the Steelers approach free agency,

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01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 6: they are very conservative. They're not going to spend a

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 6: ton of money. Dane Jackson makes sense as a guy

1533
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 6: that is from the Pittsburgh area, played at pitt has

1534
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 6: been a solid contributor in Buffalo, and maybe they think

1535
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 6: he can elevate kind of what they thought in Levi

1536
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 6: Wallace and that didn't pan out. But I think that,

1537
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 6: you know, maybe you don't give Dane Jackson a huge deal,

1538
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 6: but he's someone that you take a chance on knowing

1539
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 6: that you have Patrick Peterson there if you need to

1540
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 6: put him back in there, maybe you drafted from another corner.

1541
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 6: And they drafted a corner last year in the seventh

1542
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 6: round who was injured. Corey Trice Junior was injured in

1543
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 6: training camp and he looked pretty good before he got hurt.

1544
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 6: He has a very similar build to Joey Porter Junior.

1545
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 6: I think he's someone that we shouldn't forget about as

1546
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 6: they are, you know, building out the rest of the

1547
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 6: team in this offseason.

1548
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 3: All right, broke will get you out of here on

1549
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: a fun one.

1550
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 4: And I know it's a ways off, but do you

1551
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 4: expect Steelers fans to have more muted reactions to whatever

1552
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: transpires in the preseason this year.

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 6: I think I think Steelers fans are going to be

1554
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 6: a little gun shy. I know I am not going

1555
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 6: to be making any super Bowl predictions in August, because

1556
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 6: you know, it turns out the preseason is the preseason

1557
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 6: for a reason. It's a wild concept. But turns out

1558
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 6: preseason doesn't actually matter, and it's all fools gold, and

1559
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 6: we should not get excited about anything that happens because

1560
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 6: it can all disappear in Week one.

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 4: I would remind I feel okay making such a joke

1562
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 4: because I was here in twenty seventeen when the Browns

1563
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: went four and oh in the preseason that's right, and

1564
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 4: then failed to win a game in the regular season.

1565
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 3: So I understand. Don't buy into that preseason hype.

1566
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly.

1567
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 6: Just enjoy it while it lasts, but don't don't.

1568
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: Exactly do it for too long. Always great talking to you,

1569
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 3: brou Thank you so much for your time.

1570
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 6: Absolutely thanks guys.

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01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 5: Ahi.

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01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll take a look at the Steelers

1573
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: free agency preview. We have the CBD Whip coming up

1574
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,519
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Speaker 3: Nick just asked me if I was ready, I would say,

1580
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 3: are you ready? Oh baby?

1581
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: Billy Joel not Rod Stewart, can't be. It's happening. They're together.

1582
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: What it's the first time ever? It's yeah, it's on Friday,

1583
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: September thirteenth, maybe time ever. And if you're asking yourself

1584
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: saying where where would this be? Madison Square Garden, Oh,

1585
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: Arena feels that way in London.

1586
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: Feels like the only possible solution. The Santiego Barnabayol No,

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: the Stadio Olympico, A Stadio Olympic, No Emirates Arena, No, No,

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Speaker 3: Alian's Arena.

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Speaker 5: No. No.

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Speaker 3: Only here Cleveland Brown Stadium. That's it. How can you

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Speaker 3: get tickets? You can buy them right now. You go

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Speaker 3: to Cleveland Brown Stadium dot com slash billion.

1593
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: Rod billion Rod twenty twenty four to zero two four

1594
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: billion Rod two zero two four.

1595
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 3: It's Billy Joel Rod Stewart. It's one night only. That's it.

1596
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: You got to get out there and live. Kids.

1597
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: Here is your Uh, it's let me ask you, let

1598
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: me throw something at you, please throw away. I was illuminating,

1599
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: like the trouble the Ravens are in yesterday. Yeah, it

1600
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: is equally illuminating that Pittsburgh is apparently so stubborn that

1601
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: they're just gonna stay with what they are at quarterback. Okay,

1602
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: I've gotten this from anybody I talked to you over there,

1603
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: that this is it. They're gonna they want wild and

1604
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna roll with it. God bless them. I wish

1605
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: you the best kids. They is this division taking a

1606
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 2: step back. We'll do Cincinnati tomorrow. They're still a healthy Borough.

1607
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: But He's he's played four seasons, only been healthy twice.

1608
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 4: The Ravens are still gonna be good, Lamar's It's still

1609
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: a great division, yes, but Baltimore has gotten major roster

1610
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 4: issues right now.

1611
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is locked into this quarterback. But they're scary and

1612
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: know how to win.

1613
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 5: They do.

1614
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: They're they're not a super Bowl team. But there isn't

1615
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 3: a Carolina in the division.

1616
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm just saying, like last year, it

1617
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: felt like before Deshaun got hurt, assuming that he was

1618
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: going to play the way he played in the Ravens game.

1619
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: For the season, it felt like there were three teams

1620
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 2: in the division who I could say I wouldn't be

1621
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: surprised if they won the Super Bowl, including us, And now.

1622
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,480
Speaker 3: You still had three teams make the playoffs, right, you did, remember.

1623
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is next year, there's these are

1624
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: huge changes that are happening. Yes, Cincinnati is going to

1625
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: be fundamentally different next year than they were this year,

1626
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: and they're coming off another catastrophic injury for Burrow. Now

1627
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: two and four seasons. I don't know if they'll have

1628
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 2: Higgins or not. I don't we'll find out tomorrow where

1629
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: the feeling is on that they tagged him.

1630
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: But is it to tag to trade? Who knows?

1631
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's gonna stick with this quarterback? Baltimore's got major They're

1632
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: soon going to be very very good, but they're going.

1633
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 3: To look different, especially defensively.

1634
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: Yes, they're not going to be as good defensively, it'd

1635
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: be stunning, Plus new coordinators, all that stuff. So as

1636
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: we're going through this stuff, I just when you listen

1637
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: to Brook and you hear like how locked in they

1638
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: are to pick it in Rudolph. And you listen to

1639
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: our guests yesterday talk about the Ravens and like they

1640
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,879
Speaker 2: have real problems.

1641
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 4: It does feel like the division is as wide open

1642
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 4: as wide open can be.

1643
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: But I don't know that these I know it's crazy,

1644
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 2: it's sacrilegious to like say that these people aren't serious people.

1645
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 3: They don't feel like serious people to me. I know

1646
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: there's still Pittsburgh. I get it. I understand it. They

1647
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: win every year they go, but they're not Super Bowl

1648
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 3: any every year. They're not that anymore.

1649
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: If if you're trying and I think I think the

1650
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 4: way I said it was very fair and was accurate,

1651
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 4: was I.

1652
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 3: Knew exactly what you were meaning. And I think I

1653
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 3: think she did too.

1654
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 4: If you're trying to minimize your quarterback, that means that

1655
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:31,799
Speaker 4: you're not serious.

1656
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not serious.

1657
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 4: And Arthur Smith has never been able to necessarily elevate

1658
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: the quarterback that he's with. No, and Najee Harris is

1659
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 4: a fine player, he's not Derrick Henry. No, I mean

1660
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 4: that offense. That offense worked at its peak when it

1661
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 4: had Derrick Henry and aj Brown, Yes, who were at

1662
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 4: the time both.

1663
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 3: He was the best running back in football and aj

1664
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 3: Brown he was a top five to six, Yeah, five

1665
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: six receiver. They're not gonna have that. Pickens is really good,

1666
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: but he's got a lot going on.

1667
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: It's a it'll be interesting because it's gonna be a

1668
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 4: very This kind of an offense can feed one guy.

1669
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 4: But will Deontay Johnson be happy? Will Friarmuth be happy?

1670
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 5: Now?

1671
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: They have but you can't get the baller tight end

1672
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 4: in this offense he's gonna want to. I mean, I

1673
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 4: just feel like you get Beije on analogy. I mean,

1674
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 4: if you watch for people who watched the Falcons a

1675
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 4: lot last year, you didn't see an offense.

1676
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: That you're like, man, this is this is what I

1677
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: want to have happened in my place. No, he's gonna run.

1678
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 4: The two tight ends are gonna play Washington, Friarmuth a ton.

1679
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: That's why I asked her how does this mesh with him?

1680
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: And she said, this is all about Kenny Pickett. But

1681
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't all about the quarterback.

1682
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 3: No, not at all. He's not about quarterback development.

1683
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: Well nobody's If anything, it's about, it's about minimizing the

1684
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: quarterback's issues. So like, and we heard that from Brooke

1685
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 2: when she was talking about it, like, if you have

1686
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: a quarterback who doesn't make mistakes, well, yeah, that's a

1687
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: path to nine and eight, that's what that's a path

1688
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: to look at a lot of it's it's a lot

1689
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: of people talking right now about how this Broncos trade

1690
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: for Russ Wilson's one of the worst trades in NFL history,

1691
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: and maybe it turns out that it is, but you

1692
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 2: understand why they made it, of course, because they made

1693
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: it to get a franchise quarterback.

1694
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 3: You're trying to win, and that's the it is.

1695
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 4: That's a prerequisite to being able to win if you

1696
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: don't have one and and no offense to you know

1697
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 4: what Brooke was saying.

1698
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: But Brock Purdy, I think.

1699
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: Has proven himself, okay, to be on a completely different

1700
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 4: plane than Kenny Pickett.

1701
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: Not only that, not only is that true, it is

1702
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: also true that he's playing for probably the most gifted

1703
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: play caller him and Andy Reid. It's a short list

1704
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: of most gifted play callers in the sport, and they

1705
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: have the most weaponry in the sport, agreed, So all

1706
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: of those factors lying.

1707
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 3: Over there, came out, put Picket in there.

1708
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 4: But if Purdy is in Pittsburgh, he's good good, yes, yeah, yes,

1709
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 4: like those two are not the same. Thicket would not

1710
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: be what no party was no there, Sam Darnold might

1711
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 4: be playing, Yeah, quite honestly. Yeah, so their free agent

1712
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 4: list isn't huge, uh Oka four, Levi Wallace, Mason, Rudolph, Montrevious, Adam.

1713
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: The Rudolph thing's crazy. Now all of a sudden they

1714
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: think Rudolph can play. They've convinced that he can play.

1715
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: They've had there for years forever. You've tried to replace

1716
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: him with Trubisky and Pickett and anybody, and now you're, oh,

1717
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: he's well.

1718
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 3: The thing that's so interesting is now Victorian is summer school? Now?

1719
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 3: Am I misremembering this? And I ask you?

1720
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 4: And if you're if you don't have it, I'm last

1721
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 4: who know, I don't think I am. At the end

1722
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: of the year, wasn't Mason Rudolph their quarterback? Even though

1723
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett was yeah back help.

1724
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: They benched him. They benched him, and they went with Rudolph.

1725
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: They were going to Rudolf. Rudolf was the best quarterback

1726
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: play they had all year.

1727
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: Was with Mason Rudolf.

1728
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: Well, Rudolph was in the regular season three and oh

1729
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: completed seventy four percent of his passes even or nineteen yards,

1730
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 4: three touchdowns, no pick. Still only one hundred and sevent

1731
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 4: nine yards a game, but at a rating of one eighteen.

1732
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: And then you get to the playoffs and it's oh,

1733
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 4: it's fifty six percent, two touchdowns, one pick and a

1734
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 4: rating of eighty. I don't know they've had Mason Rudolph.

1735
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 4: He was drafted by them in the third round of

1736
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 4: two thy and eighteen. He started thirteen games in his career.

1737
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 4: He somehow is eight four and one in those games,

1738
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 4: which I think believe I believe, include two losses to

1739
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. He lost to the Browns in twenty nineteen.

1740
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 4: That was the Thursday night game, twenty one to seven.

1741
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 4: He beat the Browns thirty eight to seven. Week six

1742
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty. That was when Baked threw the pick

1743
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: six to Minka to open the game and they just

1744
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: boat race us. I didn't realize, Oh, he didn't start

1745
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 4: that game. He threw what he got it at the end,

1746
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 4: threw one pass for six yards, So he didn't start

1747
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 4: that one. So he started really one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1748
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 4: eight games in twenty nineteen. He started five games since. Yeah,

1749
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 4: two of them against Cleveland and both of them losses.

1750
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's strange. They now they picked well, they

1751
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: draft well, they do all of those things. They're excellent

1752
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 2: at that.

1753
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 3: Yes, so you can reload.

1754
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: They will reload, and of course you take them as

1755
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 2: seriously as you can because they've earned all of that

1756
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: and all they do is win. They just like when

1757
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: she said they haven't won a playoff game till since

1758
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: what like seventeen?

1759
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 3: Is that what she said? They want a playoff game

1760
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 3: since seventeen? I believe Hell I can tell you right now.

1761
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 3: Been a minute. Yeah, it's been.

1762
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 4: It's been a very very long time since they've won

1763
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 4: a playoff game.

1764
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: Let's see if they have the team franchise.

1765
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 5: Encyclopedia, what have it on here?

1766
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been.

1767
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 5: Is this that? Here we go?

1768
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: Yep.

1769
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 4: The last time they won a playoff game was twenty seventeen.

1770
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 3: That's a long time, man.

1771
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 4: Maybe in twenty sixteen, twenty and sixteen they lost in

1772
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 4: the conference championship game. Twenty seventeen they lost in the

1773
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 4: divisional round, but they may have had a buye.

1774
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long time. It's been a minute.

1775
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: So we've won.

1776
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: We've we've won, yeah, not multiple won one. We want

1777
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 4: to playoff there since then, yeah against them.

1778
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: You know you were one of the people who saw

1779
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: him do it. I was there.

1780
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,200
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1781
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1791
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: know Hello?

1792
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: How are you doing good?

1793
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 7: What are you guys doing today?

1794
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 5: Right?

1795
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 3: You're doing real well? Look at it out there?

1796
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 6: What is that.

1797
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: Is that just down? It's a misty fog. I think

1798
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 3: it's raining. I think it's a light rain.

1799
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 7: It was very misty foggy last night too.

1800
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: Oh baby boy?

1801
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: Was it? Yeah?

1802
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 3: Awful driving around?

1803
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 5: Not drive?

1804
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that drive I had yesterday on the turnpike back

1805
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: east side and east bounding down.

1806
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: Brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal. Yeah, with when the hail started

1807
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: popping in there, that was no damage. I didn't se

1808
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 3: any damage. I didn't see any.

1809
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't look. There wasn't after I there

1810
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: was because I was in hail when I pulled in

1811
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: here yesterday and that didn't cause any damage. So I

1812
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: don't It's felt like a consistent hail.

1813
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: What do you have for sooner?

1814
01:20:58,720 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 7: First question?

1815
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 9: We saw get tagged yesterday, But the Chiefs look like

1816
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 9: they want to trade Lagarious Sneed. What team do you

1817
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 9: think is a good fit for the Chiefs to trade

1818
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 9: him too?

1819
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 7: That might need a corner?

1820
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 3: Well, who's got cap space?

1821
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 4: Why do they want to trade Lagarious Sneed? Is the

1822
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 4: question I would have. Let me answer your question with

1823
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 4: a question of my own. You know, why why don't

1824
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 4: you want to keep? I mean SID was a big

1825
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 4: part of what they did. Teams with the most cap

1826
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 4: space right now, this is from over the cap do

1827
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 4: Houston's got a lot Commander's Patriots, Titans, Texans, Cardinals, Bears, Lions, Bengals.

1828
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: I could see Houston kind of going all in now

1829
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: that they've got CJ on a rookie deal. Like I

1830
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: could see them going doing a little Niners here, like

1831
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 2: let's go all in and spend. How about the Eagles,

1832
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: That's absolutely something they would do. Yes, do they have

1833
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: room thirty seven point eight?

1834
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's totally an Eagles move. That's got how.

1835
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 4: Teams that are way under the cap right now? Bill's

1836
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 4: forty five million, Chargers, twenty nine million, Dolphins, twenty eight million,

1837
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 4: Saints twenty one million, Broncos, twenty Cowboys, fourteen Ravens, thirteen Niners,

1838
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: three Chiefs, have seven hundred and nineteen thousand of space,

1839
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 4: which is probably why this is happening.

1840
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 7: I think it's a cap space thing. It's like him

1841
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 7: or Chris Jones.

1842
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 3: You can't I think.

1843
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you could see the the Patriots going for him,

1844
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 4: But what do they I don't know what's going to

1845
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 4: be to me. I look at like, I don't know

1846
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 4: all of these rosters well enough to know. See the Bears,

1847
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 4: I just say Bears like Whalen Johnson or Houston with

1848
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 4: Stingley Yep, yep, and then you just get lockdown here.

1849
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 3: Now you have lockdown corners. Colts have a lot of money. Yeah,

1850
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 3: Colts were.

1851
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 9: One of the teams I was seeing when I was

1852
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 9: looking it up Rams. Yeah, we'll go to the next one.

1853
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 9: With a weak running back draft class, does drafting a

1854
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 9: running back make more sense or still signing one that's

1855
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 9: a veteran in this free agency class, it's.

1856
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 3: Not a great running back draft.

1857
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1858
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: I think you could get like a pretty good player

1859
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 3: at next to nothing. That's the thing.

1860
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 4: There's gonna be a glut too many, too many for

1861
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 4: not enough spots. If you can get I you can

1862
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 4: get a good player around the minimum, and that's really

1863
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 4: what you're looking for. I think I think the Browns

1864
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 4: are gonna be looking a lot around the league minimum

1865
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 4: for those positions. Now you get a guy like DeAndre Swift,

1866
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 4: I don't see how you could get him cheap. I

1867
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 4: wanted him last year, by the way, that would have

1868
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 4: worked out very well, would have worked out quite well.

1869
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 4: But our running backs did fine. I think that's the

1870
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 4: other thing too, Is.

1871
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: I just I one thing that I think is like

1872
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: we you and I say this whole time, Like, yes,

1873
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: the running bicks are fine. We need weapons, weapons, We

1874
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: need something that scares people. Andandre Swift scares you as

1875
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: a defense like you you hit him in a flat,

1876
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: make a guy miss and it's good night, Irene.

1877
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: So that's the that's the thing I'm looking. Give me

1878
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 3: weapons I need we need more weapons. Look at that

1879
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,480
Speaker 3: Uncle teddy Ted doing the God's.

1880
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 5: Work over there.

1881
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: Yes, it's over there working, go ahead, go ahead?

1882
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 7: And fact or fiction?

1883
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 9: Russell Wilson won't find an uncontested starting job this season.

1884
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: Fiction. I think that's fiction. I think he will get

1885
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: a job. I think he'll be uncontested somewhere.

1886
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Is it.

1887
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 3: So Tampa Bay like Atlanta feels like Cousins Minnesota? Yeah,

1888
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 3: so Cousins goes like he go to Minnie.

1889
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 9: Is he at the point where he's still you trust

1890
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 9: him as your day one no matter what.

1891
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was pretty good last year sixty seven, twenty

1892
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: six and eight. Yeah, thirty two hundred yards.

1893
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 3: He's a little checked down, Charlie, but like he's better

1894
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 3: than a lot of what's happening in the league.

1895
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, Yes, yeah, like he's better than Baker

1896
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: was last year. No, Aaron's talking like bakers get fifty

1897
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: million a year and they like Russ can't play.

1898
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went, I'm curious to see what happens with

1899
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 4: with Bake that's gonna be. I think that's a very

1900
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 4: interesting one because the biggest mistake a team can make

1901
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 4: is putting them in a situation themselves, in a situation

1902
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 4: like the Giants just did with Daniel Jones. Yes, where

1903
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 4: you pay them a ton of money and you just

1904
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 4: are not necessarily getting that return on that investment.

1905
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 3: And that is that's a tough tough thing to deal with.

1906
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: You have to in this league when it comes. And

1907
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: the bear that's why the bear this will be needs

1908
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: a decision for the Bear Skille Caleb Williams. It's a

1909
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: little tougher than the Daniel Jones thing because Fields has

1910
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: flashed elite traits, but you haven't seen enough of it, right,

1911
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: not enough to where you want to pay him fifty

1912
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 2: million a year. So have that be somebody else's problem.

1913
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 5: Yep.

1914
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,839
Speaker 2: And now now you get a guy who's the consensus

1915
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: number one guy who you can develop, and now you

1916
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 2: reset your clock yep. So you can't pay the Dan

1917
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 2: Dimes guys anymore. I don't know that you will. I

1918
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: think you'll see teams saying, you know what, no, no,

1919
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 2: he's not that. We'll get back into it and try

1920
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 2: to find it another way. Because as long as Mahomes

1921
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: is in Kansas City, you're gonna need elite quarterback play

1922
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: to beat him. And he ain't going anywhere so for

1923
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: the next decade plus, so better have an elite quarterback.

1924
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 4: Danny Dimes, if they were to cut him post June first,

1925
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 4: it would be a forty seven million dead cap hit

1926
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 4: this year. I mean they really, they really don't have

1927
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 4: much of an out. If they can get out after

1928
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 4: this year, after this year they could save post June

1929
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 4: first cut, they'd save thirty million and still owe him.

1930
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 4: They'd have eleven million of dead cap four, twenty five

1931
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 4: and twenty six.

1932
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1933
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 9: And speaking of Daniel Jones factor fiction, Daniel Jones will

1934
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 9: not be the starting quarterback for the Giants by the

1935
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 9: end of next season.

1936
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 3: Phil, I like I had the end of next season.

1937
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: That's good.

1938
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 5: Job at you, It is good, you know.

1939
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get every opportunity to be the guy.

1940
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 4: But I think it's it feels like based on history

1941
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 4: and what we've seen from him that it's likely that

1942
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 4: won't go well, and thus by the end of the

1943
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 4: year he would be out and you could make the

1944
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 4: case that he would be out of out of New

1945
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 4: York after that.

1946
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I concur doctor.

1947
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 9: Are they rookie quarterback sleeper team in the draft? No,

1948
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 9: like a JJ or somebody to sit in the first round?

1949
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think.

1950
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 9: Because i've I've I saw that somewhere that you take

1951
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 9: like a JJ McCarthy and just sit in behind Daniel

1952
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 9: Jones and let him grow and then if Dan doesn't

1953
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 9: worry to.

1954
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: That has to be a nurturing that's like a Madden

1955
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,919
Speaker 2: trade though, Like it has to be a nurturing situation,

1956
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: like Daniel Jones is not going to try to make

1957
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy better, not gonna try to help him, like

1958
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: you need Jacobe Brissette Joe Flacco for that. We said that,

1959
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,839
Speaker 2: we had that with Hoyer. That's also Brian, Like Brian's

1960
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Speaker 2: playing for his career.

1961
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Speaker 3: He's not gonna that's.

1962
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 4: Also a big asset to put it something. Yes, it's

1963
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 4: basically saying we're not we're hunting on the season. I

1964
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Speaker 4: maybe I'd be shocked though that'd be a that would

1965
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 4: be a shocking one.

1966
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Speaker 3: The final one.

1967
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Speaker 7: We go back to the Browns.

1968
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 9: What's the biggest storyline that you're watching for the Browns

1969
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,879
Speaker 9: as we near the start of free agency.

1970
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 3: Well, this is a I mean, this is for you.

1971
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 3: Let's put this on a tea for you, my friend.

1972
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: So I think the biggest storyline to watch just floating

1973
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: there it goes.

1974
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 4: The biggest storyline for the watch with the Browns is

1975
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 4: is really okay, how do you maneuver with the cap

1976
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 4: what restructures come? And then the addition of weapons on

1977
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 4: offense or webpon on offense and the shoring up of.

1978
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 3: The interior of the defensive line.

1979
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Speaker 4: M h, I think those are the biggest Those are

1980
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 4: the biggest things. I think, linebacker, you're gonna you'll figure

1981
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 4: it out. But I think in terms of big issues,

1982
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 4: it's is there a weapon out there that we can get?

1983
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 4: And then is there a guy if could we would?

1984
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 4: We are we okay rolling with Alex Wright and Obo Kuranquo,

1985
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 4: and then maybe like a guy that won't get a

1986
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: huge deal but is talented, like a Derek Barnett or

1987
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 4: a you Tour Gross Mottos who was with Carolina Penn

1988
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 4: State kid. It was a second round pick, but you know,

1989
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 4: wouldn't be huge on the salary, Kep, would you be

1990
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 4: willing to go with that at defensive end and then

1991
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 4: make us splash? Try to go get a Christian Wilkins, Yes,

1992
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 4: all a sudden, have Miles Christian Wilkins, Dalvin and where

1993
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 4: we go Alex Right or Obo or.

1994
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Speaker 3: You know one of those young guys.

1995
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that ought to get Let you sleep

1996
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: well at knife as a Browns fan. This front office

1997
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: has proven to be incredibly nimble and aggressive. So if

1998
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: other teams are vulnerable, they will be ready to pounce.

1999
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's happening time and time again.

2000
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: More than so.

2001
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: If there is a situation where it's we can't get

2002
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 2: this deal done, we can't lose him for nothing, We're

2003
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: on it.

2004
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 5: They're on it.

2005
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 3: They're your vulnerability that you don't even know you have.

2006
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 3: That's right.

2007
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's why this could be a fun

2008
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks for sure, So much more to come. You'

2009
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Speaker 2: listen to Clear the Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

2010
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2011
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2012
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Speaker 3: What do you think go play? Should go play? No,

2013
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Speaker 3: that's so Gibby's playing down there. I hope he is.

2014
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 3: I hope he's we have any life. I haven't heard

2015
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 3: anything from it. I don't want to. I don't want to.

2016
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 3: I just want him to be down there, go live,

2017
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Speaker 3: thriving in his world.

2018
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

2019
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Speaker 4: By the way, we should play this back for next

2020
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 4: time that you and I are doing something.

2021
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Speaker 6: Well.

2022
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 4: Actually he never says any bad about you when you're

2023
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 4: doing something. But if I'm doing something then.

2024
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, see they know it's called the truth. Laugh that

2025
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 3: you heard the truth laugh right there from Una. Yeah,

2026
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: but he should know.

2027
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Speaker 5: Joy.

2028
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 3: Somebody should be in the sun.

2029
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

2030
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, get out there and live a little bit. Gibbey,

2031
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 3: go get Bay go. That's it. The next level is

2032
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Speaker 3: coming up next for back tomorrow Cleveland Bron's Daily eight

2033
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2034
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2035
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