1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Richard Salamat. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Prisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: It is all about what used to be called ARM Holdings. Now. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: This is SoftBank's semiconductor designing unit. It's a file for 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: what is said to be this year's biggest IPO in 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the United States. Let's get details now from Bloomberg's Joeannawell. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: The company plans to start its road show the first 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: week of September and price the IPO the following week. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: ARM is seeking to be valued in the listing at 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 3: sixty billion to seventy billion dollars. The offering is being 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: led by Barclays, Goldman Sachs, JP, Morgan Chase, and Mizuho. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: But there's no sign of Morgan Stanley in ARMS draft 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: IPO fouling. That's a rare event for a bank that's 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: often a lead advisor on landmark technology IPOs. A successful 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: debut by ARM would provide a welcome relief for soft 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Bank after its Vision fund lost a record thirty billion 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: dollars last year. I'm joining Wan Bloomberg Day brageisiha Well 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 3: after the. 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Bell in the US Zoom Video Commune locations raised its 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: forecast for both profit and sales for the full year. 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: The story from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: It is a positive sign for the software maker's plan 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 4: to expand products beyond its namesake video conferencing software. Investors 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: have been concerned about the stagnation of Zoom's once explosive 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: sales as the company is challenged by major rivals such 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 4: as Microsoftware, its central product. Zoom's plan to resuscitate growth 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: hinges on expanding its tools for large businesses such as 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: phone platforms, customer service systems, calendar applications, and chat features, 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 4: fueled by advancements in artificial intelligence. In New York. Charlie 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 4: Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Right, well, Siddy, let's have a look now what was 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: going on at Goldman Sachs reported in wanted to get 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: out the personal financial management business. The reasons behind it 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: will explain that by Bloomberg's through the Natheragen. 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: Goldman Sachs is exploring a sale of an investment advisory 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 5: business that had just bought four years ago, which is 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: another Solomon deal, another deal that was struck under its CEO, 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: David Solomon, that is being undone. That is the great 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 5: chase of the mass market that Goldman had plotted a 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 5: while back. It's completely being unknown now. And this is 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 5: another sign off that. 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: That was a Bloomberg SA. Another ogent saying that GOMEZX 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: is in advanced discussions with potential bias. 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: We are hearing that City Group CEO Jane Fraser is 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: weighing an executive reshuffle. This follows the exit of the 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 2: bank's longtime deputy Paco Ebara. Fraser is looking to simplify 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: the company's businesses and organizational structure. Here is Bloomberg's Shanali Basik. 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 6: Remember paco Ebara is on his way out, So what 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 6: does this do? This elevates their business leaders themselves as 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: well as giz Drane Fraser, the CEO, more oversight potentially 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 6: into those different businesses as they lose a pivotal leader 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 6: of more than three decades. 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Now, in an effort to simplify operations, City Group will 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: officially scrap two of its core operating units. Those include 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: the Institutional Clients Group and the personal Banking and Wealth 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: Management division. 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Rashan all right, well, let's get back to China and 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: the countries is said to be considering ramping up support 59 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: for local government financing vehicles or lgfvs. And this is 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: really down to the amount of debt that they're carrying 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: in all the worries about them being unable to pay 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: that back. 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 7: Bondiau has more, China may set up an emergency liquidity 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 7: tool to provide low cost funds for longer maturities to 65 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 7: lgfe's that's according to Chinese media allt Taisin. If approved, 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 7: the move would provide cash strapped lgfe's access to funds 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 7: to improve their cash flow and avoid short term liquidity stress. 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 7: There are no official figures for the size of LGF debt, 69 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 7: but the International Monetary Fund estimates it was seven point 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 7: eight trillion dollars last year in Hong Kong. I'm Bonnie 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 7: al Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about the rough ride for US treasuries, 73 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: the sell off in the bond market forcing ten year 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: yields to a near sixteen year high. We've got a 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: ten year last quoted in New York at four thirty three. Essentially, 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: the market is bracing for the risk that interest rates 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: will remain elevated. We've heard the refrain higher for longer. 78 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: The FED will have its annual gathering, the Symposium in 79 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Jackson Hole, Wyoming, at the end of the week. Traders 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: are expecting a hawkish tone from fedcher J. Powell. He's 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 2: set to speak on Friday. Here's Claudia Strom, founding member 82 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: of Strom Consulting. 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 5: This is not going to be talked about because it's there. 84 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: They're going to hold to two percent, and frankly, I 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: will think they will hold it to the very end. 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Claudias Strom talking about the FED sticking to its inflation 87 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: target of two percent. Now, despite the movement in treasury 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: yields today, the swaps market is still pricing in the 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: fact that the Fed is likely done with its rate 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: hike strategy and potentially could begin ending or rather cutting 91 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 2: next year. And before we get to global news, let's 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: just pass along that Charles Schwab will be cutting jobs 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: and closing or downsizing some of its corporate offices. The 94 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 2: associated costs are expected to be between four hundred million 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: and five hundred million dollars. We had shares in Charles 96 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: Schwab today down just two tenths of one percent. It's 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: time now for a look at global news. The bail 98 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump in the Georgia election interference trial has 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: been set. Let's get to Ed Baxter for a look 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 2: at Global News. 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 8: Eddie, Yes, and it is two hundred thousand dollars DOUG. 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 8: A consent agreement Trump through his attorney also agreeing to 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 8: make no direct or indirect threats of any nature against 104 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 8: any victim of alleged scheme, including in social media posts. 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 8: This agreement reached before his surrender later this week. Meanwhile, 106 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 8: Trump is saying again he will not participate in the 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 8: first debate or maybe any of the others for the GOP. 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 8: Bloomberg's Nancy Lyons says this doesn't surprise some political scene watchers. 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 9: A former president has defied naively said he will not 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 9: take part. He cites his wide lead in the latest 111 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 9: survey of likely GOP voters. The decision does not surprise 112 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 9: Charlie Cook of the Cook Report. 113 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: Or President Trunk should have his head examined if he 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: did go into debate. 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 10: He's got everything to lose, nothing to gain from it. 116 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 9: As for the eventual nominees for the presidential race, Cook 117 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 9: tells Bloomberg sound on the only obstacle he sees preventing 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 9: it from being a Biden Trump face off would be 119 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 9: health related issues in Washington. Nancy lyons Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 120 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 8: All right, Nancy, thank you. Japan will begin a contingents 121 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 8: plan to discharge wastewater from the Fukushima nuclear disaster site 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 8: as soon as this week. NHK reports Prime Minister Fumiokashia 123 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 8: will meet with his cabinet at ten am local this morning. 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 8: Remnants of Tropical Storm Hillary is still pummeling areas outside 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 8: of the major southern California cities. Flights being disrupted and 126 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 8: record amounts of rain being recorded major cities. I say, 127 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 8: feeling they really dodge to major bullet. ABC News Tim 128 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 8: Pilliam on Bloomberg, saying that there's some blue sky shows. 129 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: We care about our firefighters first in our community as well, 130 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: and if they can go to work. 131 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 8: In a healthy way, then it's difficult for them to serve. 132 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 8: This is Tim right now. 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 11: We are seeing conditions improved greatly and that is very 134 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 11: good news. But Hillary brought record breaking rainfall to southern California. 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 11: Some parts saw up to a year's worth of rain 136 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 11: in just one day. 137 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, but in Palm Springs, yeah, that's the floodwater still 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 8: waiting for water to receive and then to assess damage. 139 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 8: The storm is moving up through Las Vegas. US President 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 8: Joe Biden has arrived on Maui as famous Chief at 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 8: Deanna Chriswell has already said today that efforts to find 142 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 8: survivor's temporary shelter has gone very well. 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 9: There are sixteen people that remain in shelters, and we 144 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 9: have posted two thousand people that we have already moved 145 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 9: into a hotel rooms. 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 8: Meanwhile, in his first national interview since the burning of 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 8: Lehina Town on Maui, fire Chief Brad Ventura says the 148 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 8: fires have been devastating for the islands firefighters. 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Firefighters are hurting. 150 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: This is their community, this is their home, These are 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: their people. 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: Nobody in our department is unaffected by this. 153 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, he says, fifteen firefighters did lose their homes. Global 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 8: news power by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and 155 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 8: analysts in over one hundred and twenty countries. In San Francisco, 156 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 8: I'm Ed Baxter, and this is Bloomberg. 157 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: Let's get to Lori, heinel our guest. Lori is the 158 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: Global CIO at State Street Global Advisors. She joins US 159 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: from Boston, Massachusetts. It's always a pleasure, Laurie, thanks for 160 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: joining us. Talk to me a little bit about what 161 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: you're seeing in the bond market today. Elevated yields. Yeah, 162 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: some of this may be tied to the notion that 163 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: we're maybe on the verge of a soft landing and 164 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: that rates will be higher for longer. Are you expecting 165 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: the economy to kind of weaken to the point where 166 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: we can be talking about FED rate cuts next year? 167 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 10: Well, we actually are thinking that we're going to be 168 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 10: talking a lot more about FED rate cuts next year. Obviously, 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 10: all eyes right now are going to be all what 170 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 10: the Fed and Chairman Power are going to say at 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 10: Jackson Hole. We believe that they will remain diligent about 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 10: inflation and keep that next rate hike on the table. 173 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 10: We actually think that the FED has done enough already 174 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 10: and we're seeing lots of signs of weakening both in 175 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 10: the economy but also more sustainably lower inflation rates. 176 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: But ultimately, here Laurie, I mean, surely they're going to 177 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: not be cutting rates back to what we've had in 178 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: the post to GFC era because they need to have 179 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: abs to deal with structural changes, which may mean that 180 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: inflation is structurally higher for longer. 181 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 10: Well, we think that there's a case to be made 182 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 10: that inflation's slightly higher than it would have been sort 183 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 10: of pre the COVID era, but certainly not something that 184 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 10: justifies rates with a five handle. We actually think growth 185 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 10: in the US next year is going to be sub 186 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 10: one percent, and there's a risk that we have a 187 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 10: recession next year. We also look at more near term 188 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 10: inflationary data, and you're seeing the rolling three months come 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 10: in and around a three handle. So we actually think 190 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 10: that the FED may be cutting pretty dramatically going into 191 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 10: next year, as much as two hundred basis points. 192 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I haven't heard that before. We have a two year 193 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: treasurer right now yielding five percent. Maybe we can pivot 194 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: away from the macro a little bit and talk some 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: of what's been happening in the equity market today. Big 196 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: rally in in Nvidia now this company will report results 197 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. It's certainly become a bit of a proxy 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: for the trade and artificial intelligence. Despite higher bond yields today, 199 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: there was no holding back in video. Are you a 200 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: buyer of this the theme of AI? 201 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 10: Well, we're more a buyer of growth and quality growth, 202 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 10: especially if we're right about our core call, which is 203 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 10: that US growth is going to slow pretty dramatically, and 204 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 10: that's against a backdrop where global growth is likely to 205 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 10: slow pretty dramatically. Once again, investors are going to be 206 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 10: looking for those pockets that have some tailwinds, and so 207 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 10: we do think that large cap US, particularly technology services, 208 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 10: some of those areas are poised to do better. Yeah. 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know, when we see the large cap universe, 210 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: I mean, and we've just seen it up till of 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: late in the last sort of couple of months of 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: dow out performing, which means is a sexual rotation. What 213 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: is that rotation? And is it because of a fear 214 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: of perhaps they're being a slow down and perhaps going 215 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: to companies which are more defensive. 216 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 10: We think one of the things that's been so remarkable 217 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 10: about the last couple of months is that the US 218 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 10: economy has proven much more resilient than many had feared, 219 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 10: and so we are seeing a broadening out of that rally. 220 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 10: So the short term out performance is one thing, but 221 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 10: if you look at the longer term kind of durable 222 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 10: rally of some of these large cap tech names, they've 223 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 10: really dominated. If you look over twelve eighteen month period, 224 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 10: so it is a broadening of bus market continued in 225 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 10: enthusiasm for the fact that you know, we do have 226 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 10: robust growth here. Still, third quarter will probably come in 227 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 10: stronger than what many had anticipated and relatively strong consumer 228 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 10: So against that backdrop, it's not surprised, not surprised to 229 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 10: see the market broaden out a bit. 230 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: It is a different story, I think we can agree 231 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: in China. Goldman Sachs recently cutting its target on Chinese 232 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: equities a lot of concern here of what's happening with 233 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: the property market, and Goldman is of the view that 234 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: until Beijing introduces more forceful policy measures, property prices and 235 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: equities will likely continue to slump. And I'm wondering how 236 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: you're viewing the China story right now. 237 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 10: Well, we have been pretty negative on China for quite 238 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 10: a while now. We didn't think that the post COVID 239 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 10: bounce was going to be nearly as robust as what 240 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 10: many had believed. And as we're seeing, there are still 241 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 10: overhangs from property market and we think, unfortunately this is 242 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 10: going to be a long duration kind of workout situation. 243 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 10: We don't think it's going to be a typical Western 244 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 10: crisis where things kind of fall out of the bottom, 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 10: you take your medicine, and then you kind of move on. 246 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 10: We think that they're going to try to navigate some 247 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 10: sort of a management of that crisis, but it's probably 248 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 10: going to impact their growth story for the next couple 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 10: of years. 250 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Lauri, it's interesting you say that, say that you didn't 251 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: quite buy into the bounce after the COVID off the 252 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: COVID restrictions were lifted. Why didn't you believe in that 253 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: in that bounce lasting for a long time? And secondly, 254 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: how does that inform you now that view that you 255 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: just shared with us. 256 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 10: Well, I think, first and foremost, there wasn't as much 257 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 10: sort of pent up demand or pent up capacity, if 258 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 10: you will, as you had in other geographies where you 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 10: had actually a fair amount of fiscal stimulus which was 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 10: actually supportive of consumer behaviors. You also still had a 261 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 10: number of disruptions from a geopolitical standpoint, concerns about the 262 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 10: property market, which had been weighing on the region for 263 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 10: quite some time. And by the way, I guess at 264 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 10: backdrop where other parts of the world were slowing from 265 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 10: their post COVID rebounds and not as much take up 266 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 10: of the capacity that might be available coming out of China. 267 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: So is there a global market Let's put the US 268 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: aside that you're interested in. Can I tempt you to 269 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: take a position in Japanese for example. 270 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 10: So we keep trying to get excited about Asia. More generally, 271 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 10: we tend not to do it on a country by 272 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 10: country basis. So while yes, Japan has been a very 273 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 10: good performing market here and we certainly like some of 274 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 10: the names there and are overweight in our global portfolios 275 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 10: where we have active management at play, it's not really 276 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 10: where we've gotten to know Asia. More generally, we do 277 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 10: like Europe, though we think that the European story may 278 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 10: be a bit under appreciated, and you know, certainly as 279 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 10: long as the war, you know, moves on there, there's 280 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 10: a little bit of a lack of enthusiasm. But we 281 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 10: do like Europe. 282 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: Laurie, thank you so much for taking time to chat 283 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: with us. Lori Heinel, the global CEIO at State Street 284 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: Global Advisors, joining us here on DBA. This is Bloomberg 285 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: day Break Asia. 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