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We will 30 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: dive into that just three and out with John Middlecoff 31 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: by the way, that's me Hello, and a lot of 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: other football talk, the Packers, some other stuff going around 33 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. But obviously the big news of the day 34 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: is depending on where you lived. I was actually scrolling 35 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Twitter dot com at about ten thirty at night. They 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: say you're not supposed to do that. Actually, not good 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: for your eyes, keeps you awake, And I literally the 38 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: tweet popped up like it was breaking news and I 39 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: saw it was crazy. I'd be lying if I said 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't. My jaw didn't open a little bit. I 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: was shocked, not because I didn't think he was a 42 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: fireable coach, but just usually don't get someone fired Tuesday 43 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: night at you know, past ten o'clock. But it's naratus, 44 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: so we will discuss them. Uh, Mark Davis, my experience 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: with a franchise, Mark Davis and kind of where they'll 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: go from here. And the Middlecoff mail bag as well 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram. 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Let's start with Dratus. 77 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: When I got out of the NFL and I got 78 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: into the business of talking. I was associated with the 79 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: radio station in downtown San Francisco, and there were two. 80 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: There was KNBR, which was the bohemoth at the time. 81 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: I think they're kind of struggling now, but they had 82 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the Niners and the Giants and the Warriors, the cash Cows, 83 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and then the station I was with had the A's, 84 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: who are a terrible radio property, and the Raiders. And 85 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: I ended up getting a radio show right behind Greg Papa, 86 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: who is now the voice of the Niners, but for 87 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: multiple decades was the voice of the Raiders. I ended 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: up doing the postgame show for the Raiders for several years. 89 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I ended up hosting shows at training camp in Napa 90 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: and listen. I'm born and raised in Northern California. Like 91 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of people, I grew up a massive, 92 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: massive forty nine er fan, right. I didn't grow up 93 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: on Joe Montana my dad did, I mean he was 94 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: old by then too, but the Montana I grew up 95 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: on Steve Young, Jerry Rice to Jeff Garcia. Nowadays, while 96 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: I still root for them, and I guess I would 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: consider myself a forty nine er fan, my relationship with 98 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: football is much more base like I think about the 99 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: show and what I'm gonna talk about and how to 100 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: be interesting just on football in general more than I 101 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: do care about the teams like I once did still 102 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: passionate about the Niners, just because I know so many people, 103 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: you know, season ticket holders. But to me, I'm a 104 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: football fan and that's kind of what I've grown into. 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: Like I root heavily for the Eagles and the Kansasy 106 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs because of the relationships I had. I didn't know 107 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: much about the Raiders right that they most of my 108 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: friends growing up were not Raider fans. That they struggled, 109 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: I think, brand wise in Oakland in that area because 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: the Niners kind of sucked up all the oxygen. But 111 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: when I got to work around them, if you love football, 112 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: it was really cool. You know, the alumni base, it 113 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: felt collegiate, you know, from Jim Plunkett to Tom Flores, 114 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: to Willie Brown, to a lot of players in the 115 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties to Howie Long, guys that come around, 116 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: and if you're a fan of sports, you feel the history. 117 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: And I never people think I talk a lot of 118 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: shit about the Raiders, but I really appreciated that element 119 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: of it all and I got very very close with 120 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Greg Papa who beside the Davis family, I don't think 121 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I'd ever met anyone who cared more about the Raiders. 122 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: And it's a powerful thing. And listen to anyone listening 123 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: that's a Raider fan, just like if you're a Giants 124 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: fan or you're a Cowboy fan. It's a big part 125 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: of your life now. Unlike a lot of the franchises, 126 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: that team has sucked for so long and one problem 127 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: they had, and you could feel it when you were 128 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: around them. Anyone that knows, Like if you're my age, 129 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: like late thirties, in your forties and your fifties, and 130 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: you're constantly talking about college or high school or something 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: you did in your twenties, your life's probably not going 132 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: that well. And I'm not saying you can never look 133 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: in the past and think about memories when you get 134 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: with old friends, but if that is a consistent theme 135 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: of your life, or when you spend time around someone 136 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: else and they're constantly talking about you know what used 137 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: to go well, things are probably not going great currently 138 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: in the present day. And that was always a big 139 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: theme with the Raiders. They love talking about, like the 140 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: seventies with John Madden and Kenny the Snake Stabler. Now listen, 141 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I love those stories, right. Kenny's Tabler's famous line was 142 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: he could study the playbook by the light of the jukebox. 143 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: That team in the seventies. Some of the stories that 144 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: I got to hear was like the Mob meets the 145 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: NFL meets like a biker gang. It was incredible, but 146 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: it was like, this is twenty fifteen. The team is 147 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: a three win team. What are we doing here? And 148 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: I think they've always struggled with that. They're a family 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: run operation. And Mark Davis, I think to understand the 150 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Raiders you have to understand Mark Davis and the stories 151 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: I used to hear him and Al Davis I don't 152 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: think had the best relationship, Like Al wouldn't allow him 153 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: to fly home with the team back in the day. 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: So Mark Davis, you know this is not like a 155 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: forty year old guy. This is a guy in his sixties, 156 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: been through a lot. I think, as just I don't 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: even I don't want to speak out of turn here, 158 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: but is that a rough go of things? At times 159 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: I think he's has said publicly, I mean he's never 160 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: had a job. This is the only job he's ever 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: had that. He just inherited a team. I don't know 162 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: how old he was when out passed away, like fifty 163 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: eight years old, and the team was terrible, and the 164 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: team continues to be terrible. I will give Mark Davis 165 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: credit on this for just firing Josh McDaniels. I do 166 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: believe he has balls. And I haven't been around that 167 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: many owners, you know. I've spent some time around Jeffrey 168 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: Luriy not like that much personally, but I just saw him, 169 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, on a semi regular basis. Talked to Jed 170 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: in passing a couple times, but I definitely don't have 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: a relationship. I don't know other owners. I have talked 172 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: to Mark Davis probably more than any other owner when 173 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I was doing those shows, and I always thought Mark, 174 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think if you just see him on 175 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: the internet, everyone making fun of very easy guy to 176 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,479 Speaker 1: talk to, Like it's very easy to have a conversation 177 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: with him. And I think sometimes the word on people, 178 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: you know, in sports or just in general, billionaires can 179 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: be difficult to communicate with. Just living in a completely 180 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: different world. They live in a world where literally everything 181 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: is free. Think about that. That's how I heard a 182 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: billionaire described one time, and it's incredible. Right, what's it 183 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: like being a billionaire? Well, everything's free, right. You gotta 184 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: spend money, but I have unlimited money, so it's basically free. 185 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: And Mark Davis and the Raiders have always felt like 186 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: that's not really the case now, and I've been saying 187 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: this for a while, because you have way more money 188 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: as a franchise. You can afford to spend fifty million 189 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: dollars to tell someone to go away. Mark Davis is 190 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna get another check from the league office, or it 191 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: comes throughout the season for four hundred million dollars, and 192 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: then next year that number is gonna go up, right, 193 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: And obviously he's a part I don't exactly know his 194 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: revenue share agreement with this stadium, but he's making money 195 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: on the stadium. So he's got more money coming to 196 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: him than the Raiders have ever seen because they were 197 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: never like Paul Allen or Steve Balmer or some of 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: these other owners that have all these other ventures. Al 199 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Davis started as a football coach the way I had 200 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: always heard that he got the Raiders in the first place. 201 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: He didn't have any money. The mob in New York 202 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: help funded him, and he was kind of a just 203 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: crazy dude and ended up buying and buying and buying 204 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: and became the majority owner. But what he didn't have 205 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: money that this was like the sixties, right. This is 206 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: a guy who's a football coach, had a whistle around 207 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: his neck. It's what made him a unique owner. He 208 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: could also coach and obviously later became the GM and 209 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: the personnel director for a long time. And I always 210 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: appreciated hearing Al Davis stories because from Andy Reid to 211 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh to Belichick, these fucking guys idolized Al Davis. 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: And the Al Davis that I saw in my latter years, 213 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: like in junior high and high school through early in 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: college before he passed was not the Al Davis that 215 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: these guys in their sixties and seventies right now working 216 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: up in the NFL saw when they were kids in 217 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. And this guy was a leading 218 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: maverick in the league, and Al Davis would have done this. 219 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: What the Raiders had become with Josh McDaniels and Dave 220 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Ziegler was a complete embarrassment. And I have seen some 221 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: embarrassing teams and Mark Davis. I saw one team Mark 222 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Davis fired Dennis Allen after four games, and then Tony Soprano. 223 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: The rip buried a football and the team went on 224 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: to win three games, and it led to Khalil Mack 225 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: and Derek Carr. I guess they were already on the team, 226 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: but that team was a troach as well. I think 227 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: it led to a Mark Cooper. But my point is 228 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: that this team just needs to be blown up. Now. 229 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: There's several different conversations I've been saying forever. The league 230 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: would love to get a super super rich guy to 231 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: run this team and get rid of Mark Davis and 232 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: his team. I think would easily easily get eight to 233 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: nine billion dollars Vegas no state income tax, incredible stadium, 234 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: incredible practice facility. It would be an easy team to 235 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: sell given the amount of people that could afford it. 236 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: They would be lined up. I don't believe anytime soon 237 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be willing to put this team on 238 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: the open market. So unless he's forced out, I think 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: this guy's going to own the team till he dies. 240 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: And I will give him credit for this. I do 241 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: think it takes balls when you find yourself in a 242 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: situation to just blow these guys out. And I think 243 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of times in football, in relationships, in any business, 244 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: it's not like they were technically losing money. He could 245 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: have just rowed this thing out the season. Once you 246 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: don't like her anymore, you're like, well, I'll just play 247 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: this out for a little longer, right, I don't really 248 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: want to go back on the open market. I enjoy 249 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: sleeping with her, and you just delay the inevitable. And 250 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, fuck it, rip the band 251 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: aid off, get the hell out of my building. Josh McDaniels, 252 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: I think is objectively one of the worst coaches in 253 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: NFL history. I want to read you a stat in 254 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: dent Well one. He's the first coach in the Super 255 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Bowl era, So this goes back to nineteen seventy. Not 256 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: to coach for two different teams and not make it 257 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: through the second season twice. Fired in Denver in year 258 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: whatever you want and a half. Same thing here with 259 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: the Raiders. I'll give you a specific number. In Denver 260 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: he lasted six hundred and ninety four days. With the 261 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, he lasted a little over eight hours. Obviously, 262 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: he didn't accept the job with the Raiders, he lasted 263 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: a shorter period of time than he left when Denver 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: was six hundred and thirty nine days. Now, I think 265 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: in Denver he was just a Bill Belichick clone. Everyone 266 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: couldn't stand the guy and he was such an asshole 267 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: you had to get him out of the building. To me, 268 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: and in Vegas, I don't know if it was that ugly, 269 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and you know, the vitriol from the players. I'm not 270 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: saying it was positive, but I think it was clearly 271 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: this guy's over his head. He has no clue what 272 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: he's doing, and let's face it, there is no arguing 273 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: It's not even disputable. At this point. The Belichick coaching 274 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: tree is a fucking embarrassment, like a complete joke. Like this, 275 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: this is the crew guys that can't and let's face it, 276 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: he's their best coaching candidate of all the guys coming 277 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: out of New England. Now, I would say Patricia, Joe, Judge, 278 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: even Flores. I was thinking about it at the gym today. 279 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Flores technically had a better career than those guys. But Flores, 280 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: when his owner was offering him one hundred grand a loss, 281 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: would not lose to get Joe Burrow. Think about that now, 282 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: several years removed, this guy would have changed your life. Brian, 283 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: we all could see it about halfway through LSU, and 284 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: you're that big of a moron to not realize it. 285 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: And he ended up beating Cincinnati that year. And listen, 286 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: how great too is we can argue to W'll blue 287 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: in the face. Brian Flores hated to a tonguevy Lola 288 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: couldn't stand the guy. So Brian Flores, who good defensive mind, 289 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: can't deal with offensive players or the big picture understanding 290 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: to save his life. Now he's not as bad as 291 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Patricia Joe Judge to me is a laughingstock. And Josh 292 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: McDaniels is one of the biggest failures we'll ever see objectively. 293 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't even be denied. And for about ten years Josh 294 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: was having Dan POMPEII and The Athletic and Bleacher Report 295 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: write all these articles that he was looking in the mirror. 296 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: It turns out when you make that guy the head coach, 297 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: he can't coach his way out of a wet paperback. 298 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: When he's your head coach, your team will get progressively worse. 299 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Your players will hate him. Part of being a coach 300 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and one thing I've heard from people around Josh won 301 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: that building with Ziegler from the coach's standpoint and the 302 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: players and people around it, heard it was toxic. Heard 303 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: people despised walking into work in the morning. And listen, 304 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: people weren't always happy when they were winning championships walking 305 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: into New England. But at least you knew everyone's on 306 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: edge a little bit. That's how Bill liked it. You 307 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: were gonna win probably a lot. Like with parcels Hell. 308 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh used to scream at the coaches, not the players, 309 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: but you know what you knew. If you sucked it up, 310 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: kept your shoulders back, head up, looked everyone in the eye, 311 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: you were gonna make playoff runs every single year and 312 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: end up with the rings. The other thing that's pretty 313 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: clear is Tom Brady, like Belichick, we can argue till 314 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: we're blue in the face. I think if you gave 315 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: him a decent quarterback, he'd win a lot of games. 316 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: He clearly knows defense. He's not good at drafting. His 317 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: ego is so big, he makes so much money he'll 318 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: never give up the GM spot. But if you give 319 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: him a good quarterback, even obviously Tom Brady's great quarterback 320 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: of all time. But if you just gave him a 321 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: solid guy, he's gonna be fine. Belichick knows what he's doing. 322 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: Belichick can lead a room, Belichick can scheme a game plan. 323 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is the head guy, cannot Matt Patricia as 324 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: the head guy, cannot Brian Flores, cannot understand offense how 325 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: to deal with those guys completely. And if that's the 326 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: case in twenty twenty three, he can't be my head coach. 327 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: Quarterback way too important. That's the lifeblood of our sport 328 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: right now, that quarterback position. So if you can't figure 329 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: that out or see that, maybe you can with time. 330 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Who knows, he got a good lesson this, You know 331 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks seeing Cousins go down and 332 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: what Cousins is meant to that team. But this, Josh 333 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: McDaniels and the Belichick tree man, it really wouldn't have 334 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: gone any worse. Now, if you're Mark Davis, here's the reality. 335 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: You're in Vegas anyone. I would imagine many people listening 336 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: to this have been in Las Vegas special place. I 337 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: love it. I have a lot of a lot of 338 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: love for the Vegas Strip. I really enjoy it. When 339 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: I was scouting, I used to stay. It was a 340 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: kind of my hub. I used to spend a lot 341 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: of time there and not even I wasn't even allowed 342 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: to really gamble at the time, I would just I 343 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: liked it. I can go into a casino and just eat. 344 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: I like walking around. I like the noises, I like 345 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: the lights, I like how cold it is. I like 346 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: everything about casinos. I've been liking casino since I was 347 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: about They legally allowed me to enter Cash Creek Indian 348 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: bingo and casino. Back when me and my friends in 349 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: high school we used to sneak in and played blackjack 350 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: when I was like fifteen, sixteen years old. Love a 351 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: good casino. It's a bright Light Stars place, and it 352 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: goes back well before I was born. Got my dad 353 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: used to work for was in the casino business, back 354 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: when guys like all Lee and Elvis. So this is 355 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: in like the seventies, the end of their careers, and 356 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: it has continued till now, till Celine Dion's Bright Light 357 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Stars and now sports are coming there. You better win 358 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: because if you don't win, not only will no one 359 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: give a shit, that arena is just gonna be complete outsiders. 360 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: And that's what Vegas the Raiders have become, right because 361 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: they're so shitty that when they play the Chiefs, when 362 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: they play the Broncos, when they play the Bears, the Steels, 363 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: it's a home game. That's all it's gonna become, is 364 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: a home game. And I think, if you're Mark Davis, 365 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: you gotta swing big. And here he's proven this before. 366 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: Listen was John Gruden nowhere near the hype, didn't even 367 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: sniff what we thought it was gonna be. I thought 368 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: he was gonna be awesome, and he was terrible. I mean, 369 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: he was well over his head. But I do appreciate that. 370 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: You can't dispute that many other franchises in the NFL 371 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: and in college were lining up for years trying to 372 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: hire John and Mark Davis had to pay a tax, basically, 373 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: and his tax was that ten year contract. But he 374 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: he took a big swing. And I admire anyone. That's 375 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: why I'm so hard on Dean spanofs. It's like, Dean, 376 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: you didn't build this shit. You have nothing to do 377 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: with Sofi Stadium, You had nothing to do with the 378 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: purchase of this franchise. Your grandpa and father are the 379 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: ones that made all your money in your family. Now 380 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: your family has more money than they ever dreamed of having, 381 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: and they were already rich, and you're so afraid to 382 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: ever use it. You love getting these cheap coaches, and 383 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: then you complain when you always lose. Rinse, repeat, rinse repeat. 384 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: This is the same thing over and over. Well, look 385 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: in the mirror, bro cut at bigger check. Take a 386 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: big swing, and there's no guarantee just because you hire 387 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: a big name coach it's gonna work. But he never does. 388 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: And if I'm Mark Davis, I gotta go big name, 389 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: big game hunting. And obviously Jim Harbaugh, who has connections, 390 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: who got his start with the Raiders, makes a lot 391 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: of sense. I think it's pretty clear with this cheating scandal, 392 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there long. I think it's fair 393 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: to say it would be shocking if Jim Harbor is 394 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Michigan's coach next season. If this cheating scandal had never existed, 395 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: and Harbaugh had signed some massive contract that Michigan was 396 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: about to put in front of him, maybe fifteen million 397 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: dollars a year, I would say, yeah, it's probably not 398 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: even an option. But the moment a picture goes viral 399 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: and I've known Jim mcawain since Fresno. State of that 400 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: dude in the Marines, thank you for your service. Standing 401 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: on the sideline right behind the coach of Central Michigan 402 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: as they're playing SPARTI Jim mcawayne worked for Jim Harbaugh, 403 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: like I mean, if you could deny it all you want, Listen, 404 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be detective here. Not hard to 405 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: put the piece of the puzzle together. Jim Harbaugh, his Marine, 406 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: they were honestly nothing but respect for how deep they 407 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: went into this cheating scandal. I just saw someone say that, Listen, 408 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: no problem with stealing signs, but when you do it 409 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: to the level they're doing it, you basically know everything's 410 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: coming and when you have better players, it's not a 411 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: fair fight. And Michigan has been kicking the shit out 412 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: of everybody since this Marine. I got on the sideline. 413 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: I defended him. I said, I think a lot of 414 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: people are doing some form of this. Nobody I don't 415 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: think was going to the level of getting former employees 416 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: to give you a hat and a T shirt wearing 417 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: their logo as you're playing their rival. I mean, that's 418 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy, and I don't Macwayin denied it and 419 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: un listen, I'm not pointing fingers here, but I don't 420 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: think it's that hard to put do and two together 421 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: on this one. So to me, Jim Harbaugh, I don't 422 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: think they're like, I don't think they can hire a coordinator. 423 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you can just do Josh McDaniels part 424 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: du Dennis Allen part duh like Ben Johnson, for as 425 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: awesome as he's been in the Lions, I don't think 426 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: he can do that Like when the forty nine Ers 427 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: hired Kyle Shanahan, or that Sean McVay was hired. It 428 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: obviously has worked out, but I don't think he can 429 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: risk that. You need something that you know. And I 430 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: heard Colin say har Harpbaugh's one hundred percent lock to work. 431 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: He's worked every single place San Diego, Stanford, the forty 432 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: nine Ers, Michigan. He's four four like there are no failures, right. 433 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: And to me, if you hire Harbaugh like he's gonna 434 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: work now when Super Bowls, who know, just get to 435 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs back to back years, Mark Davis would be 436 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: doing cartwheels down the strip. I don't think another name. 437 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: And I heard someone on the internet say this, this 438 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: is way risky because he's starting to get his ass kicked. 439 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I do think from a bright lights and there's a 440 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Gruden aspect and there's a salesman's aspect, I think Deon Sanders. 441 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be incredible. That would feel very Vegas, 442 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: It really would. Now we'll see where they end up picking. 443 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they could pick a son, but Deon Sanders Vegas. 444 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: That feels a little far fetched at this point in time. Again, 445 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: every time you look up on Saturday, as they've been 446 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve, they are getting worked. I mean, 447 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: UCLA just destroyed them. They still have a lot of 448 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: tough games coming up on their schedule. They're not going 449 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: to win. But I'd be all for that. And then 450 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I think the other one is if Belichick becomes available, 451 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: and listen, I know, well a Belichick tree. He is 452 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: the tree. Like Belichick, I do not. Belichick knows what 453 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: he's doing, like these guys, clearly don't. I think you 454 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: would entertain that if you were Mark Davis, I also 455 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: think you could sell that, even if it was just 456 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: for four years. He's given out these massive contracts. That's 457 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the other thing Mark Davis has done. He's you can 458 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: say he's a bad businessman, but I think he has 459 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: to pay somewhat of a tax to get people to 460 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: come to his franchise. He had to give Gruden ten years, 461 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars because that was the only way 462 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: to get John Gruden to come to the Raiders. Otherwise 463 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: he was gonna go to Tampa Bay, right. The only 464 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: way to get Josh McDaniels, who kept turning people down, 465 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: it was making a ton of money for Belichick, was 466 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: to give him and his general manager six years. It's why, Like, listen, 467 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I've been fired before I was making fifty grand. My 468 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: contract ended. Like what was I gonna do? I didn't 469 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: have any money. The only thing I'd ever worked in football, 470 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: Like I was like I was twenty eight years old. 471 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Like it was tough. I mean it was. It was 472 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: very scary time. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad for 473 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels at all. He's got another thirty forty million 474 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: coming to him. He's already a multimillionaire. Same scene with Ziegler. 475 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: You get fired and you have four plus years on 476 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: your contract at seven figures a year. I mean Ziegal's 477 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: probably making a couple Josh is making ten plus. Like, 478 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: give me a fucking break. I don't lose a second asleep. 479 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: Even Mick Lombardi, I would imagine, was making a million dollars, 480 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: has a three year contract. Like, you're not screwed in life. 481 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: You got a lot of options. Even if you got 482 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: to take a year off, you got cash coming your way. Now, 483 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna have big ripple effects. Guys at the 484 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: bottom of the totem pole are gonna get fired. The 485 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: guy making eighty grand or ninety grand or one hundred 486 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: grand that doesn't have a multi year contract and might 487 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: not know that many people in football. That sucks. I 488 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: feel for those people, but I never have any sympathy 489 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: for the guys at the top of the food chain 490 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: who deserve to get fired and get fired with a 491 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of money coming to them, Like that's that's called 492 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: the fucking American dream. You're gonna get paid a million 493 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: dollars to go play golf. Like whenever I see that 494 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: these people are humans too, well, yeah, maybe they're kids, 495 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: but Josh, like Josh gotta go to the fucking gym, 496 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: get to the elliptical mix in a salad and get 497 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: your shit together, because what we just witnessed, what you 498 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: forced on us again was I mean, what I had 499 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: to witness on my couch and everyone listening to this 500 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: on Monday night was a waste of my three and 501 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: a half hours, It really was. And obviously the players 502 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: turned on you, and reports were that players were going 503 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: to dinner with Mark Davis over the last week. It's 504 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: pretty clear what they told him. Get this guy the 505 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: hell out of here, and to Mark Davis's credit, he 506 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: did to the packers because Gouda Kins talked to the 507 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: media today or at least to one of the ESPN 508 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: dot com reporters and listen. What I appreciate about people 509 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: in football is when you can just be candid and 510 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a line, right, you don't have to 511 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: just come out and say, you know this guy sucks 512 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: or you know our defensive coordinator just blows, even if 513 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: that's what you think. There's a balance you have to 514 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: have in a team environment. Right, I can say whatever 515 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: I want. The only people I have to answer to 516 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: in terms of what I say is me, Like it 517 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: just reflects me. There's no one like this isn't a 518 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: team of seven people right behind me that are also 519 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: on the air. Right, if I threw the producer under 520 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: the bus, that'd be a scumback. Hey, this guy fucked 521 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: up a graphic. But I would never do that, and 522 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: it never happens. Right. But in football, everything's such a 523 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: team oriented operation and everyone is accountable in terms they 524 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: get their opportunity to talk. They're under the microscope. You 525 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: got to be very careful what you say, especially when 526 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: it comes to a quarterback. And I think when you 527 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: look at the Packers, their quarterback situation is already settled. 528 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Jordan Love's not going to be their quarterback next year, 529 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: and Gudakin said that. Here's why I really quick though, 530 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: before I say go into what he said, I give 531 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: them credit for not picking up his fifth year option, 532 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: because I think we see this time and time again 533 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: where teams pick up an option and then immediately regret it. 534 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: And when it comes to a quarterback or a wide 535 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: receiver or a defensive end, it can be very very expensive. 536 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: And when you pick up these expensive options and then 537 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: you turn on the player during that fourth year, you're 538 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: screwed because you can't get out of it. Ideally, you 539 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: would like to trade it, but if the guy can't play, 540 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: no one is taking that salary. So they gave him 541 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: a very very you know, cost effective on their salary 542 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: cap extension for like eleven million dollars, which obviously if 543 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: they could do it over again, they wouldn't even have 544 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: given him an extension. But you have to have a 545 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: contingency plan if he is good, because you don't truly 546 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: know until a guy plays games and it's the bright lights. Well, 547 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: they've seen him now. In his last several games have 548 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: been a disaster. I think he has eighty interceptions. But 549 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: if you just watch him, he's just not very good. 550 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: And listen, football is hard. A lot of quarterback the 551 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of quarterbacks relative to the top, you know, 552 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen guys are not that good and it's very, 553 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: very difficult to win with. And that's Jordan Love. And 554 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: like Gudikin said, he's got ten games, a lot is 555 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: on the line over the rest of the season. What 556 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: he's essentially saying is like, unless the miracle happens, he's 557 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: not gonna be our quarterback anymore. Now. I think, you know, 558 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: in some organizations you would get blamed because there was 559 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: an owner for screwing up the Aaron Rodgers situation for 560 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: not figuring it out, for ultimately trading him. But when 561 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: this team has no owner, like, these guys are gonna 562 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: get another quarterback, but this was one season that's gonna 563 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: be on their resume. Ultimately, Rogers ended up wanting out. 564 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: They just they pivoted and they didn't screw themselves financially. 565 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: But whoever their next quarterback is, and I would imagine 566 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: if they keep losing, they are gonna be in the 567 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: mix to draft a guy really high. That guy better 568 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: be good and he better be good fast, or these 569 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: people will lose their job. Because the Green Bay Packers, 570 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, Alabama Football, Texas football, USC football, there 571 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: are certain franchises that just do not tolerate losing. And 572 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay has been lucky enough with Farvan Rodgers. They've 573 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: just always won. They've just been winning consistently for three decades. 574 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: It's one thing if you lose a game, but Rogers 575 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: threw three touchdowns. He's like, oh, defense could be a 576 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: little better. When your quarterback plays as shitty, it feels 577 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: like your whole franchise is going nowhere. So the pressure 578 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: on this Gutikins and Lafleur this offseason to figure out 579 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. For everything that went wrong with Josh, 580 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: his interpersonal skills, his ability to relate, Greater nation not 581 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: liking him, maybe the alumni turning on him. If Jimmy 582 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: Garoppolo had just been good, if Jimmy Garoppolo is just 583 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: playing like the thirteenth best quarterback and throwing some touchdowns 584 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: and they were four and four, he wouldn't be fired. Right. 585 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: What ultimately did him under was Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't just bad. 586 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: He was beyond atrocious. He couldn't have gotten. He couldn't 587 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: be any worse. He's missed games, and he leads the 588 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: league interceptions, and his interceptions is one thing. Well, a 589 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: couple were tipped. You know, one he slipped. It's like 590 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: hitting guys in the hands. Interceptions that aren't even close. 591 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: When you consistently miss on the quarterback position, you got problems. 592 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: So the Packers, you're gonna get one more bite at 593 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the apple, and you better make a count a couple 594 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: other things looking around the league. Matt Stafford hurt. This 595 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: is why short of the Rams. When the season started, 596 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know how it was gonna happen. I didn't 597 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: know what the injury was gonna be. I just bettered 598 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: him getting injured. And now he's got a thumb injury. 599 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: It's looking like he's not gonna play this week. I 600 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: think the Rams are in free fall. I said it 601 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: this during the trade deadline. I would have traded Aaron Donald. 602 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: I would have reset my franchise. You're losing games with him, 603 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: and every game he plays, his value diminishes a little. 604 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: Plus there's always the risk that he get injured again. 605 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: So Stafford, I don't We never really got the information 606 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: on Sets and Bennett who they drafted what in the 607 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: fourth round and then just disappeared. Bizarre situation. But Matt 608 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Stafford's hurt the ramsoo they're screwed. Deshaun Watson still injured. 609 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: Kind of like the Sets in Bennett situation, a little different. 610 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: It's just weird, that's all to say. It's just weird. 611 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: And when you pay a guy this much money and 612 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: he can't play and your team's good, it's pretty devastating, man, 613 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: it really is. Now. I know when he's played, he 614 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been anywhere near what they traded for or the 615 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: guy they thought they were getting trading for. But when 616 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: you if you got to play PGA Wallucker, you're just 617 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: gonna lose more games than you win. I don't care 618 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: if your defense becomes the eighty five Bears defense. Speaking 619 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: of the Bears, it just never ends. It just never 620 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: freaking ends. Yesterday they tried to say a round pick 621 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: for a pass rusher that they're gonna eventually have to 622 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: pay twenty five million dollars when they could have just 623 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: paid him twenty five twenty six million dollars and kept 624 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: the second round pick. Still baffled by that, twenty four 625 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: hours later, today they fired their running back coach, and 626 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: I was expecting, you know, we need a spark on offense. 627 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: We wish I think his last names coach, Walker, his 628 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: family the best moving forward. We appreciate everything he did. 629 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: That was not the statement. The statement was basically, there 630 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: was a standard that we hold ourselves to and he 631 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: didn't meet the standard. So something happened again, and they 632 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: had a defensive coordinator resign, he had a fire running 633 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: back coach. This eber flu situation is getting worse. I 634 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: do not see how Matt Eberflew is the coach of 635 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears in twenty and twenty four. I can't 636 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: see it anyone else in his shoes, firing coaches left 637 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: and right, potential police raids on guys home, having to 638 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: fire a guy for hr reasons a coach, I mean, 639 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I can't remember the last time, you know, 640 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: for something that's not public like we've seen. Remember we 641 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: saw the one coach maybe it was a executive for 642 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the Lions, drive through tackle bell naked, Shanahan's offensive line coach, 643 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, did a little line when he had the 644 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: stripper girlfriend. He got fired. Like we've seen the situations 645 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: where coaches get fired. It's like, hey, you gotta fire him, 646 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: even if you don't want to fire him. But you 647 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: don't see situations like what are the details, Like wait, 648 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't just he's not just bad at his job. Now, 649 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: it's not really performance based, it's just something really bad happened. 650 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: We can't publicly say that's usually how you get fired 651 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: as a head coach because all these guys reflect you, 652 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: even though they're all grown ups, they're all making good 653 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: money a major major problem for the Bears. More and 654 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: more thought about Chase Young to the Niners, like the 655 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: clock sticking for Steve Wilkes. If he can't get this 656 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: defense back on track and they don't make a legit 657 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: run again and their defense underperforms, He's gonna be a 658 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: one and done defensive coordinator. He really is. You can't 659 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: have Chase Young and Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and 660 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: Drake green Law and Eric Armstead and Javon Hargraves and 661 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Hufunga and Tarvarius Ward and your defense getting slicing dice 662 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: on a weekly base. It's one thing if you know, 663 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: on a given week, AJ Brown beat you and you 664 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: lose a game. It's another thing if P. J. Walker 665 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: beaccha and then Kirk Cousins has a crew day against you, 666 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: and then Joe Burrow looks like an MVP against you. 667 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: It's like you're gonna slow down to anybody, Do you 668 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: have any like If your fastball is not working right, 669 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: Eventually you gotta try another pitch. Eventually you gotta throw 670 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: a change up or a curveball. If every single person's 671 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: inting your fastball inside outside, high low, you gotta come 672 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: with a different pitch. So to me a lot of 673 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: pressure on him. Heineke starting for the Falcons, another team 674 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: with just quarterback issue, like, what are the Falcons gonna do? 675 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: Obviously Desmond Ridder backup Heinike clearly just more of a bridge. 676 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: Maybe he gives them a well sparklex. I kind of 677 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: always liked Taylor Heinike, but the Falcons I thought had 678 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins written all over them. That clearly is probably 679 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And speaking of Kirk Cousins, Tear's Achilles 680 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: on Sunday and Tuesday night before he has surgery, he 681 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: goes to the Minnesota Vikings indoor like family trigger treat 682 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: on a scooter. I can't remember in recent memory a 683 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: guy that, like everyone kind of universally made fun of, 684 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a puss, overrated geek to just 685 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: you watch that Netflix especially, you're like, God, I kind 686 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: of regret all the things I've said about him. I 687 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: really like Kirk Cousins. I really appreciate him. Anyone that 688 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: watches it with their wife or their girlfriend, they talk 689 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: about him a lot, like I love that guy. Is 690 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: his wife that was buying him, you know, Cole's bucks, 691 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: and it's just it's a sad situation. But one thing 692 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: we've seen with Cousins super high character worked his ass 693 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: and even if his best football now is behind him. 694 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: Talking about a guy that maximized every penny and every 695 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: bit and every ounce of his ability. Right, he doesn't 696 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: have the talent of a lot of guys that fail, 697 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: but he just refused to not make it and refused 698 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: to not become a good player. Still had flaws and 699 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: still not a guy ideally you would look to do better. 700 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: But if he was your quarterback, I think we've learned 701 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: you can do a lot worse. 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This guy's been 726 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: in it to win it for a while, usually while 727 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: mixing feed for my cows here in Iowa. Just a 728 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: blue collar guy in the Midwest farm in his way. 729 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate you just had a little chocolate milk earlier day 730 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: after the gym tray a little protein in me. We 731 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: have been in hell here with Iowa's horrible offense. Yet 732 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: despite having one of the worst offenses in the country, 733 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: Iowa seems to win nine or ten games. How does 734 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: an athletic director in college or GM in the NFL 735 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: make a coaching decision in that type of situation? Unbearable 736 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: games for fans to watch, yet the coach is still winning. 737 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day because I 738 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: saw the headline that the athletic director came out and 739 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: announced that Farrens's son will not be returning. He obviously 740 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: had the clause in his contract that the team had 741 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: to average was twenty five points a game. They were 742 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: never going to do that. But when I think about 743 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: Iowa football, I think it's time for a change. I 744 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: was thinking about it, like, you're in this situation because 745 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: your offense stinks because the head coach made his son 746 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. There's a program that has a ton 747 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: of money. I think they lost last year early in 748 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, but their basketball team's good, Like you said, 749 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: their football team wins a lot of games. Now, you 750 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: definitely directly benefit from playing on a certain side of 751 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: the division, right or of the conference. Your division stinks. 752 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: It's why before you lost to who'd you just lose 753 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: to Minnesota? Whoever you just lost to twelve to ten, 754 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: and maybe now you're not gonna represent the Big Ten 755 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: against Ohio State or Michigan. But if you consistently now 756 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, depending you know, the schedule rotates. If 757 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: you played Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State every single year, 758 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: you would lose all those games, every single one of them. 759 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: You would never beat them, right, and then you just 760 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: you're randomly gonna lose to a Wisconsin or Minnesota or whatever. 761 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: So your schedule and I think next year, right, they're 762 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: no longer doing divisions. They packed twelve this year, didn't 763 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: do divisions. So once you stopped doing divisions, the way 764 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: you play a schedule, it changes things. And I do 765 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: wonder if Farren's like, isn't just time kind of maxed out, 766 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: had an incredible run, put a ton of guys into 767 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: the league. You can't watch an NFL game without seeing 768 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: someone from Iowa. I think it kind of peaked that 769 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: year you got to the Rose Bowl and then you 770 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: face Christian McCaffrey and Stanford and they embarrassed you. I 771 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: think the move is simply and I know financially he's 772 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: got this crazy contract. It's just hire a younger guy. 773 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Just kinda do what some of these other programs have done. Right, 774 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: What did Wisconsin do? They went out and they got 775 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: what's his name from Cincinnati Fickle? Luke Fickle to me, 776 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: Kaylin Dubore. At Washington, I'd be all over. I would 777 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: offer him what Michigan State did, Mel Tucker. I'd go, hey, 778 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: here's not quite that much, but here's seventy million dollars. Washington, 779 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna match it. They never have had to. Rumors 780 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: have always been, it's actually a little more difficult at Washington, 781 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: Like it's not difficult at Oregon. What do you need, 782 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: They provide it. Usc they'll do anything for you. It's 783 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: actually sneaky, a little harder at UCLA, at these big 784 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: ten schools. I mean, the resources you have, the money 785 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: you guys have made, if you got a better coach 786 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: and listen ference is a good coach. I just think 787 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: it's over. You know now, A guy like him making 788 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: as much as he makes isn't just gonna retire, but 789 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: you fire his son. He's sixty eight years old, he's 790 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: been there since what year did he become the head coach? 791 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine. I just think it's time. I would 792 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: get a new coach, and sometimes you get a new 793 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: coach not because you think the guy's an idiot. Right, 794 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: Look at the Patriots fire Bill Belichick at the end 795 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: of the season. It's not like they don't think Bill's good. 796 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: It's not like they don't know how talented Bill is 797 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: when he's got a good team. It's just time. And 798 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: in coaching, it's just not every coach can just coach forever, 799 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: even the Bobby Bowdens and those guys in the world 800 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: like it ends, especially the older you get. Think how 801 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thirty nine years old, and sometimes my 802 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: brain if I don't get a great night's sleep, it's like, God, 803 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: it's not firing like it did when I was younger. Hey, John, 804 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: regarding the Browns is from Zach. With all the weirdness 805 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: going on with Watson and Stefanski, how would you predict 806 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: it turns out? Long term? As you said, even an 807 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: average quarterback would have this team in the playoffs. But 808 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: it seems like Stefanski and Watson are in a standoff. 809 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: Only one of them have a two hundred and fifty 810 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: million dollars contract two hundred and thirty but you know 811 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: who's counting side tomyaslim I would say, Stevanski's in major trouble. Uh. 812 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: The old adage you can't fire the players, Well, you 813 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: definitely can't fire a guy who has that much money 814 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: coming to him. So Watson's contract makes him basically a 815 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: sacred cow, basically on scholarship. There's nothing you can do. 816 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: I think you got to hire someone, and this is 817 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: where it would be tricky, and maybe it wouldn't you 818 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: hire someone who believes that they can just get him 819 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: back on track. The other thing is money talks, like 820 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: was Denver really that great of a job opportunity, especially 821 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: if you didn't think Russell Wilson still had much like 822 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: was never gonna get it back? Oh it really wasn't. 823 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: Well what they do, Hey, Sean Payton, you want ninety 824 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: million dollars money talk shit walks and listen a lot 825 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: of these guys are rich. But if I think the 826 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: Browns would be a unique job opportunity. But like we've 827 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: talked about earlier, the team this year is not the 828 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: team next year. His cap hit goes up by forty 829 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: three million dollars. So some of these impact players on 830 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: your team. Obviously, Miles Garrett's going nowhere right In theory, 831 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb wouldn't have gone anywhere if you wouldn't have 832 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: got hurt your corners. But some of your the players 833 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: that are playing well are not. Just is Amark Cooper 834 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: on the team next year? Is that kind of why 835 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: they traded for Elijah Moore because they're gonna need a 836 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: cheaper wide receiver in two years. It gets a lot 837 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: more complicated when you lose forty three million dollars in 838 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: cap space. Even if the salary cap is let's say 839 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million. Let's just pick a number 840 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: that's easy to do. Math two hundred and fifty million dollars. 841 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: So if your cap hit is on that given season 842 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: is fifty million dollars, you're taking up twenty percent of 843 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: the salary cap. Well, his is sixty three, So I 844 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: mean we're talking that's a lot of money. Man talking 845 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight percent of the salary cap. 846 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: All going to Sean might as well just do the 847 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: math right now to see exactly what it is. So 848 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: sixty three divide two fifty, Yeah, twenty five percent. So 849 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: he's taking up a quarter of your salary cap. Think 850 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: about that, man, fellow cal Poly mustang here. I like 851 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: this guy already learn by doing. Baby, you know what's crazy. 852 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I'm someone who makes fun 853 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: of education, not in the sense of it's not important. Obviously, 854 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: reading and writing in some of the basic things that 855 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: you learn when you're younger in school are important, But 856 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: a large majority of things you learn in a classroom 857 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: don't necessarily apply, especially like in college. Nothing I did 858 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: in a college classroom applies to what I'm doing now. 859 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: But I also if it wouldn't have been toward for education. 860 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: And listen, I think you know, higher education. Some of 861 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: the stuff, I mean a lot of it's a scam. 862 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: But I got a graduate degree because I was a 863 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: GA at President State. Well, when I bought the house 864 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: and rates were ripping, I mean headed towards seven, I 865 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: was able to get a rate in the fives because 866 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: of a program that the bank or this mortgage lender 867 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: could offer, because I had multiple degrees. And I also 868 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: got the job at Fresno State because I had an 869 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: undergraduate degree. And I'll never forget and listen, I'm not 870 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna change my tune of making fun of what you 871 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: learn inside a college classroom. At least from in my experience. 872 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: A wise person once told me that, not me. I 873 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: think they talked to our class, maybe in like seventh grade. 874 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget the number one thing with doing 875 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: well in school. It just continues to keep your options open. 876 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's gonna last forever, right, 877 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: We'll see as like education, like in my parents' generation, 878 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: was everything with mine, it was still important. It feels 879 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: less important now, but it definitely keeps your options open. Hell, 880 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'd be paying way more money for this 881 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: house on a monthly basis, and shit, I might not 882 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: even be sitting here. So if it wasn't for cal Poly. 883 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: It feels like the season there is so much parody 884 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: in the league. Defenses seem to have stepped up in 885 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: a total lack of consistency from every team. Every week, 886 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 1: it seems like a new team is at the top 887 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: of the pyramid and they come crashing down. I can't 888 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: remember a time where this many teams have had a 889 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: chance to win it all because of the lack of 890 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: some true powerhouses. Seems to me home field advantage and 891 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: getting hot at the end of the season will basically 892 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: dictate who wins Super Bowl. Well, that and the ability 893 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: to string together a few consecutive good games. I think 894 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: an underrated part about I would say modern day football 895 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: is how different practice is than it was in the 896 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: nineties and the eighties. And I think if you go 897 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: back then pre the CBAS they have now and hell, 898 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: when I was at Fresno State, we practice in pads 899 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: a lot, and a padded practice is a lot more 900 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 1: difficult than what they call shells. It's like this pad 901 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: on your shoulder, but you do not tackle with it 902 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 1: and a helmet. A padded practice when you're also wearing 903 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: your leg pads, even though half the guys don't, is 904 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: football and those days are done. They are they limit 905 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: your ability to practice. In the CBA, you get x 906 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: number of days, especially the second half of the season. 907 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 1: So if you went back to like nineteen ninety three 908 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: and think of the best teams in like the early nineties, 909 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: if you just went to a Buffalo Bills practice, or 910 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: a Cowboys or forty nine Ers practice, or even in 911 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: the mid to late nineties, some of those Packers teams 912 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: with homegrin right, or you know the Pittsburgh Steelers, or 913 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: who have Denver Broncos. I will bet my a lot 914 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: of money that padded practices happened all the time, that 915 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: padded practices were the overwhelming majority of practice, not shells 916 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: or just T shirts and helmet, and I would bet 917 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: now the majority is the opposite, where it's just much more. 918 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not full speed and you're sweating, 919 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: but you're not playing football. And I do wonder if 920 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: that has hindered the ability to develop offensive linemen, because 921 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: let's face it, the amount of good offensive linemen in 922 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: the NFL has never felt less a guy that you 923 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: just felt like, oh, this guy's just really good guard. 924 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: Like how many when I was a kid. The amount 925 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 1: of star offensive linemen. I'm not saying they were famous 926 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: in the sense of like getting commercials, but just some 927 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 1: of the best players in the league were offensive linemen, tackles, guards, 928 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: and centers. It's like, I feel like we can name 929 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: the elite offensive linemen on like two hands. That was different, 930 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not talking just Hall of famers. I'm just 931 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: talking about really good, impact, pro Bowl level guys. Now 932 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: it feels like most guys are average to below. That's 933 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: not the case on defense. Think about every think about 934 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: half the league has multiple defensive linemen that you would 935 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: and then even the shitty teams have one good defensive 936 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: lineman that you'd want. Some of these teams, like have 937 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: an offensive line, you wouldn't want any of them. So 938 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: I think that's an underrated part about modern day football. 939 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: What does the NFL community, players, GMS coaches think of 940 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: the games creator of Madden's ability to analyze player and 941 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: create game situations simulations. I've full disclosure, I've never talked 942 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: to anybody about that. Obviously, players get worked up about 943 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: their rating, but in terms of when it comes to 944 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, like getting ready for games, simulating an opponent 945 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: or anything, I know Tyreek Hill made a joke about that. 946 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he's totally serious. I don't think it's 947 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: as as impactful as you'd think. Maybe you don't even 948 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: think that. I don't think it's impactful at all. But 949 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: I would imagine most people in the NFL under fifty 950 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: non players play made Madden when they were a kid, 951 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: and obviously all these players have played Madden and some 952 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: still do. So I think that's the bigger impact is 953 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: just like everyone's played. I think if you pulled the NFL, 954 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: some coaches would be old, but any coach under I 955 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: don't know, fifty to fifty five and every player, I 956 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: think he'd be hard pressed to not be. Ninety five 957 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: percent have played, and I'd bet a large percentage like 958 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: consistently played in their youth. I know I did. I 959 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: remember freshman year of college played all the time. My 960 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: squad was the Denver Broncos. Clinton Portis dominated. Couldn't stop me. 961 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: Do you think the Raiders will go after Hardball as 962 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: their new head coach at the end of the season. 963 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: I think he's definitely square under their in terms of 964 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: the scope of who they're going to look at. I'd 965 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: be stunned, stunned if he wasn't near the top of 966 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: the list. Can't believe the Raiders made this move after 967 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. They can't even get tanking right. Can't 968 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: wait to hear. Well, here's the thing, Mark Davis did 969 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: not want to trade. Mark Davis. The one thing he 970 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: has going for him, the one thing his franchise has 971 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: going for him that's not winning that now no longer 972 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: has a coach are a couple of star players. And 973 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 1: the one thing about his star players is like they're 974 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: pretty good guys. They're guys you want on your team. 975 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: Every team in the league, every team in the league 976 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: would take in a New York minute, in the blink 977 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: of an eye, Davante and Max Crosby every single team 978 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: and they would start on every single team, and that 979 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: they would be captains on every single team. So when 980 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: you have guys like that, I get it from the 981 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: owner's perspective. Now, big picture, should they have blown it up, 982 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: you can always trade those guys in the offseason. But 983 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: I think Mark Davis because it's hard not to like. 984 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: You're around Max Crosby or Devanta Adams. There's the easy 985 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: guys to like. Who do you ever hear saying a 986 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: bad word about either guy? I know you touched on 987 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: this when it happened, but as a Bears fan, seeing 988 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: the Sweat trade made me want to go bald. Is 989 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: that a shot at me? Embarrassing move by the front office. 990 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: This is a losing team with no chance to win, 991 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: and what did they not learn from the mistake last year? 992 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: And will ultimately partake in the most expensive way to 993 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: acquire a pay a player and give premium draft capital 994 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: for him. It almost doesn't matter whether the sweat's good 995 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: or bad or not if it's a bad or good move. 996 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: And to top it all off, John Lynch humiliates the Bears 997 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 1: organization by trading a third for Chase Young. The poverty 998 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: seems to have no end in sight. I can't believe 999 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: after doing the same thing last year. To me, if 1000 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool had never existed and they had just used 1001 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 1: that pick on Joey Porter Junior, so maybe they had 1002 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: two good corners, you could somewhat be like, hey, listen, 1003 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: they're a pass rusher or two away. Their defense is 1004 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: coming along their defense and stinks. You could put Reggie 1005 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: White or LT in their prime on this team and 1006 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter. I think I read because on the 1007 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: athletic because Naggy's my guy and he used to be 1008 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: the coach. I used to some of the teams that 1009 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: I just get all their articles one as the Bears, 1010 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: and I read some of their local reporters kind of 1011 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: did this thought on just the trade and the impact 1012 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: gave their different opinions. I think the Bears have ten 1013 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: total sacks this season, and five of them, let me repeat, 1014 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: five of them came against Washington, who obviously has one 1015 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 1: of the worst offensive line slash. I don't even know 1016 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 1: if their offensive line is, their scheme whatever, there might 1017 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,959 Speaker 1: break David carr sack record. So if you remove those 1018 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: five sacks against that team, they have five sacks in 1019 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: seven other games. It happens a lot with college prospects, 1020 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, this guy had ten sacks his 1021 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: senior year, and then you're like, well, four of them 1022 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: came against UC Davis. He plays in the SEC. You 1023 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: have against the two tackles that he played that were 1024 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: going to get drafted. Oh, none, Well, so four came 1025 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,439 Speaker 1: against UC Davis, three came against a two win Vanderbilt. 1026 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: You're like, well, where did the other four sacks come from? That? 1027 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: That sneaky. Happens a lot with evaluating players. Context matters. 1028 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 1: I think the same thing with the Bears. I think 1029 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: their defense isn't even remotely close. Still baffled by it, 1030 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: really am, really am, And I listen, people might think 1031 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm just a Bears hater. I have nothing. I've only 1032 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 1: heard positive things about Ryan Poles as a guy. Right, 1033 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: I've heard these people really liked him that I knew 1034 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. But you do get judged on player 1035 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: acquisition when he become the GM. So good guy, bad 1036 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: guy whatever, he's been pretty terrible as a jam did 1037 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: fleece the Panthers. I'll give him that big fan of show. 1038 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: Happy belated birthday. I'm a diehards Packers fan. It's very 1039 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: odd to me to be this crappy. I've had my 1040 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: whole Packer fan hood of great quarterback and team play. 1041 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,919 Speaker 1: Welcome to life. Do you think they might clean house 1042 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: this offseason or trade up to get Drake May Also, 1043 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: you discuss the Super Bowl being played overseas. I'm not 1044 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 1: fond of that idea. Do you want to watch the 1045 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: Big Game at ten thirty am local time? Good point 1046 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't think about that. I would someone I always on 1047 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: some text chains last night once Harball or not Harbam 1048 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: once the Raiders fired, and it's like, do you think 1049 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: Harball would go the Packers, the Bears or the Raiders? 1050 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't think the Packers are firing anybody. 1051 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: I think those guys are safe. I think those guys 1052 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: are gonna be the coach in the GM next year. 1053 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: I really do. Here's a take. I haven't heard many 1054 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: people talking about Cleveland would have been better off keeping Baker. 1055 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: I know things ended bad for him there, but compare 1056 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: how he is playing to DeShawn this season. I don't 1057 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: think you can do that. I really don't. I don't 1058 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: think you can compare to Shaun Watson situation and just 1059 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: go oh, Baker would have been much better. Because I 1060 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: watch Baker, I think he's pretty terrible too. I think 1061 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,439 Speaker 1: Baker after the first couple of games has been really bad. 1062 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's losing them games for sure. So I 1063 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: will say I think you would have been in the 1064 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: same exact situation now financially, it wouldn't have been as expensive. 1065 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: I think the hard part about Deshaun is, Listen, sometimes 1066 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks just play bad. Sometimes they just are not good anymore. 1067 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: What are you paying them? Right? What are you paying them? 1068 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: Like with Matt Ryan once he kind of was not 1069 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: good anymore. It was a problem for the Falcons. They 1070 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: were paying him a lot of money, right the Russell 1071 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: Wilson's not quite the same guy. If Russell Wilson's making 1072 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, wouldn't be that big a deal. 1073 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: He's making like forty five like that. That's the problem. 1074 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: That's why everyone nitpicks Cousins and Dak If they were 1075 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: making ten million, it'd be like God, this best deal 1076 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: in football. Well, once you start making forty plus million, 1077 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: it becomes a problem. Appreciate everyone listening, have a great week, 1078 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: Talk to everyone soon. Audios the volume