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Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Caesar Rewards. I am your man, MG Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: socially distancing and masking when and where possible. Glad you

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Speaker 1: could be with us, and you know we are in

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Speaker 1: the midst of our fantasy camp series. We have gotten

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Speaker 1: through the a f C, We've done one division in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, so we keep marching along as always. I've

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Speaker 1: got two guests that I'm very excited to talk to.

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Speaker 1: We will get to them in just a moment, as

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Speaker 1: we talked to the NFC North. But before we get

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Speaker 1: too deep into this, we want to talk to my

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Speaker 1: Faithfoolk producer Senor Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murph. How are

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Speaker 1: things where you going right now? Well, they were good

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Speaker 1: until about four am this morning when we had a

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Speaker 1: bit of an earthquake there. Um, I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: diagnose myself with vertigo. I'm I'm like Lucille two and

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Speaker 1: arrested development. I I'm starting like to like grab stuff

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Speaker 1: make sure that I am um like level equilibrium or whatever. Bad. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I feel you on that, because I feel like at

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Speaker 1: this point, I may, like, you know, hang a tennis

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Speaker 1: ball is swaying, then I'm like, Okay, there's an earthquake,

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Speaker 1: and it's not just me like having a mild panic

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Speaker 1: that movie, it's like, I'm just gonna leave that on

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Speaker 1: every table. Yeah, no, I understand totally. Yeah, if there

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Speaker 1: was an earthquake. For those of you who who don't know,

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Speaker 1: an earthquake a four point two, which is a decent

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Speaker 1: sized shaker in the middle of the night. Normally people

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Speaker 1: on Twitter know that because everybody in l A will

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Speaker 1: tweet earthquake when it happens. But it was the middle

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Speaker 1: got up to do that. So uh, thanks Eddie. We

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Speaker 1: all get through this one together. But let's bring in

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Speaker 1: my guests now. The first one. You know her from

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Speaker 1: Yahoo's Sports. She has been a stalwart there for a

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Speaker 1: very long time. Has a podcast over there with our

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Speaker 1: old pal Matt Harmon, amongst others. One of the one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite bowl on Twitter, and I'm glad to

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Speaker 1: have her on the show. It is the one and

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Speaker 1: only Liz los a list that's for jumping in. How

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm great, Marcus, I too, am in the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles area, And while I'm not considering hanging a

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Speaker 1: tennis ball from my ceiling, I would like to maybe

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Speaker 1: get some sleep. I don't I know that that's that's nuts,

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Speaker 1: but it would be nice to sleep through a whole night.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a newborn anymore so. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: last time I was in your thought, I was hiding

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Speaker 1: a pregnancy. I was like ten or eleven weeks pregnant

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Speaker 1: the last time I was on your show. She's not

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Speaker 1: newborn anymore. But I still like to sleep. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what's sleepy or whatever. Nobody nobody gets to

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Speaker 1: sleep anymore in my other guests. Alright's all cancel there.

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Speaker 1: It is my other guests. You know him. You know

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Speaker 1: him from this very podcast. I mean he used to

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Speaker 1: sit in this role that I am right now. I

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Speaker 1: was asked I was asked if I was going to

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Speaker 1: start this show by saying fantasy freaks and geeks, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would from some royalty did. He's

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Speaker 1: been all around the world and I was back to

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Speaker 1: sit in with us for the day. It is my

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Speaker 1: good friend James coach. James, welcome back to the pod Man.

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Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing great? And Marcus Grant over

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Speaker 1: there just holding it down and just doing a superb job.

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Speaker 1: It has been a minute, right, it's been um a

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Speaker 1: little over two years, a couple of years. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: so it's good to be back and talking with you

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Speaker 1: and then of course talking fantasy football. You know what

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Speaker 1: we should just rebrand this thing though, is the Young

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Speaker 1: Parents Podcast. That's that's really has got a young one's

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Speaker 1: got a young one. Man. Let's just let's just talk

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Speaker 1: about diapers and stuff. Let's do that, the the, the the,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll have the draft of best fantasy diapers

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Speaker 1: oh one, um like that. Um so, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: It will get to that, but I think we'd be

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Speaker 1: next week. But on Wednesday, Fantasy Twitter sort of lit

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Speaker 1: up because Damian Williams announced that he was opting out

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Speaker 1: knowing that the guy who was his main competition in

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Speaker 1: that backfield is not going to be there. So, Liz,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you your thoughts on c H. How

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Speaker 1: how how far have you moved him up and what

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Speaker 1: I have appreciated in the in the in the Jonathan

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Speaker 1: I have moved him inside of my top eight players

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt that the weapons at his disposal

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna go I think he's gonna go ham

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Speaker 1: But um his reps at the top of the season

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Speaker 1: I mean, James, you're you're you're feeling on him? Is he?

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Speaker 1: Is he in that top top six or eight for you? Now? Oh? Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know you, your intro is about mask

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Speaker 1: there is space between I have to and I get

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I have to wear a mask at

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Speaker 1: last year, right, he was the tight end twenty two

427
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: in true catch rate. He converted thirty eight of sixty

428
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: three looks thrown by Aaron Rodgers. We just talked about

429
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: Nick Foles and or Mitch Trabinski. Neither of them is

430
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: as good as Aaron Rodgers. And it's like the receiving

431
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: corn Green Bay was terribly deep, so that he had

432
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: a ton of options. So no, I don't. I don't

433
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: particularly see, especially if Anthony Miller is able to stay healthy,

434
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Graham even getting the kind of target share he would

435
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: need to be fantasy relevant. So I think he's like

436
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: my tight end, you know, twenty six seven something like that. Man,

437
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: let me just piggyback on what Liz just said there

438
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: and and she comes out with great stats man, and

439
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: all those numbers may go a whole hell of a

440
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: lot of sense. You know me, I'm a stats dude.

441
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm next gent stats this and next gent stats that.

442
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: Let me just break it down for you. Jimmy Graham

443
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: runs like he's made of legos. Okay, he is real

444
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: blocky right now, man, Like, no, the dude can't run.

445
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: I mean we we make fun of Jason Witten Um

446
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: for how he's running nowadays, Jimmy Graham is approaching Witten status,

447
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, these are serious dad

448
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: runs at this point. So beyond all the numbers in

449
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: the sty No, Jimmy Graham's not having a revival um.

450
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: His better days are behind him. I mean, he's I

451
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: know this might be a little bit of a hot take,

452
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: but he's a borderline Hall of Famer honestly, Um, but

453
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: his better days are done, you know, and so no,

454
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: I would imagine this will be his last year, um,

455
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: if not his second last year, because like I said, man,

456
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: the guy's he looks like he's made a legos. I

457
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: just am not investing any kind of draft capital in

458
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: him whatsoever. It's hard to imagine. Remember that the guy

459
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: who was so amazing all those years in New Orleans

460
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: is this same guy now, because like once he left

461
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: the Saints and just it all went south Ford. I mean,

462
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: it was just it. It's been shocking. But but here

463
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: we are, so um over to the Detroit Lions. Liz,

464
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: which of the two running backs there, DeAndre Swift, carry

465
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: On Johnson are you more likely to ride with this year? Maybe?

466
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: Just based on a DP or production or whatever whatever

467
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: criteria you're using. I mean, I think I have to

468
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: follow the team's lead and leaned towards deond DeAndre Swift. Right.

469
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: I love carry On Johnson, but his struggle with me

470
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: issues cannot be denied. And in fact, it looked like

471
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: the team, the franchise was getting tired of him missing

472
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: consistent game, swift and dynamic runner. He's got vision instinct.

473
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, your own Bucky Brooks said he had that

474
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: pitter patter, which I thought was the best description of

475
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: what Swift can do his timing his feet. My issue

476
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: with Swift really is that, you know, he comps to

477
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, who has had his own durability issues, who

478
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: has his own kind of upright running side, which, by

479
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: the way, is part of what got carry On in

480
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: trouble too, because Carrion has to lower his pad level

481
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: as well, and so um. I would prefer to fade

482
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: this backfield, but I do think that Swift has higher

483
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: has much higher ceiling than Johnson. And you know, if

484
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm sitting there and I have to make

485
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: a decision and Swift falls to me, I'm not gonna

486
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: be upset about it. When I look at this backfield, Marcus,

487
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: I kind of see. I'm with Liza. I'm generally tending

488
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: to avoid it. I agree that DeAndre Swift. Look, he's nasty, right,

489
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean from an athletic profile, two twelve pounds, he

490
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: round eight forty UM. A man of that size with

491
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: that kind of speed, um. I think Dalvin Cook is

492
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: is a great comp for him, because Dalvin ran you know,

493
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: similar numbers, uh to DeAndre Swift. But the problem is

494
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: he's a top sixty pick right now, and it is

495
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: not totally clear that he's the a side to this

496
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: two man rotational backfield. Right he clearly has the higher upside,

497
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: but that's already priced in. So that to me is

498
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: the problem with the backfield. And you know, we talked

499
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: about carry on. Look, he's missed fourteen games over the

500
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: last two seasons. I think he's overall pretty good player.

501
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Meniscus tear certainly scares me a lot, but he's going

502
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: in that you know, ninth, tenth, eleventh round range right

503
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: around pick one hundred. Um, I'll tell you what. You know,

504
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: if he's the starter and you're getting a starting run back,

505
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: you know in round ten, that's also not bad, you

506
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, uh, the offensive line there

507
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: in detroit's not bad either. And so for me, it's

508
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: a backfield that I think they're prices will force me

509
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: kind of away. But clearly it's a backfield that you know,

510
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: if you want to be optimistic, you know that they've

511
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: got a defensive mind of coach and they want to

512
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: run the ball. So, um, if there's if there is

513
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: some upside there, at least from a philosophical standpoint. You

514
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: know that they're going to try to keep that ball

515
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Yeah, I mean I think, Look, I

516
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: I know that we when we start looking at backfield, right,

517
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: and I know the fantasy Twitter, we always tend to

518
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: trend towards the younger guy, which I guess give Swift

519
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: the advantage in that situation. But I think I sort

520
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: of fallowere both of you are where I I don't

521
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: think I've drafted either one of these players in any situation,

522
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: just because I have zero clarity on what it's going

523
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: to be like. And look, this is another one of

524
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: the many ways is that the pandemic is sort of

525
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: changing how we do this because we aren't going to

526
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: get uh, we're gonna get preseason. We're gonna see a

527
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: lot of training camp. We're not gonna see a lot

528
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: of these camp battles that were used to seeing to

529
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of help us make these decisions. Uh. And in

530
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: this situation, I don't know that I'm willing to take

531
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: a stab at either one of these guys. I know

532
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: that when I have a question about a cal bear,

533
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: there's only one person I want to ask about it. So,

534
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: uh so, James co James COO, is Marvin Jones being

535
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: underdrafted this year? You're gonna be surprised by my take,

536
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: But no, I think he's actually being overdrafted. As a

537
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he's got a top on I know,

538
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: I know it kills me to say this, but he's

539
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: got a top one hundred price tag. What are we

540
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: talking about here with Marvin Jones? You know, ninety one

541
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: targets last year, so sub one targets. That's not good.

542
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: Seven seventy nine yards last year, that's not good. He

543
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: had nine touchdowns in thirteen games, that's great, but four

544
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: of those came in one game against a washed exam

545
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: of your road. So I just for me, I just

546
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: talked about it philosophically, right. The biggest thing for me

547
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: is that pencil bro a k A. Matt Patricia clearly

548
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: wants to run the ball. Detroit was seventeenth in passing

549
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: attempts last year, sevent so bottom half of the league.

550
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: Goladays the clear cut top dog in the passing game.

551
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: I think Hawkinson takes a step forward. I'm just I'm

552
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: struggling to find where does the volume come from? Uh

553
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: to kind of support this top one hundred price attack

554
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: from Marvin Jones. I just don't see it, but you don't.

555
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: You don't, but you don't think I do account that

556
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: half the games he played were with David Blow and

557
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Driscle. All. Yeah, for a career season. And when

558
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: you look at what Marvin Jones, he was top three

559
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: in touchdown rape. Fine, you make a good point about

560
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes, but he was also top fifteen production premium

561
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: and uh the wide receiver, nineteen in fantasy points per game. Yes,

562
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: he's thirty, Yes he's been banged up in back to

563
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: back seasons. But if I can get um like a

564
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: top thirty, top thirty five potential player in the ninth

565
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: round around the same spot the fools are drafting, Noah

566
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: fans signed me up, especially in a year COVID lists

567
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: and street free agents being shipped onto teams. Look, I'm

568
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. I actually had a did a

569
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: mock draft where I ended up getting Kenny Golladay. I

570
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: think I got Golla Day in the the second round,

571
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: and I got Marvin Jones in like the ninth round,

572
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I kind of like this, like I

573
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: felt I felt okay about this. Um. All right, So Les,

574
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned Noah Fan and where he's going. Let's talk

575
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: about his former college teammate t J. Hawkinson. Are you

576
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: buying the hype on t J Hawkinson this year? Oh? Man,

577
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to buy it so bad.

578
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Like coach just was so confident with his like he's

579
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: taking a step forward, and I was like, oh, I

580
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: want to be there with the there. Um. You know,

581
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that the star are gonna align

582
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: at the top of the season. Like in June, Bebel

583
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: came out and said that he wasn't sure that Hawk

584
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: was still a hundred percent back from the ankle injury

585
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: that ended his rookie season prematurely. He last he landed

586
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen list. Nobody's going to start practicing

587
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: until the middle of August. I just I just think

588
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: that's a lot to shake off for a player so young.

589
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: But when I look at how he flashed, particularly you know,

590
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: week one, I think that the tools are all there.

591
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: The question is am I gonna draft him? Here? It's

592
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: like more of a strategy question, right, Like, am I

593
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna draft him? And know that it's going to take

594
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a minute to get going, or am I going to

595
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: try to try to gamble a little bit and not

596
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: draft him and hope somebody else in my league gets

597
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: impatient because he's not producing right away and then try

598
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: to scoop him. Yeah. I will say this when it

599
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: comes to tight end, and I've I've said this repeatedly

600
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: on this show, Like I felt better about the teams

601
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: where I either get one early, where I go early

602
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: and get like a George Chittle or Travis Kelsey, or

603
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: I wait late. I mean Hockinson, I guess contends to

604
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: fall into that later grouping. Um, you know it's Hawkinson yea, yeah.

605
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably why I don't have a

606
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: lot of Hockinson on teams, just because he's sort of

607
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that in middle ty here. I think if I'm going later,

608
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: I tend to lean toward the you know, the Blake Jarwin's,

609
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: the John new Smith's, that sort of thing. I just

610
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: feel like if I'm getting that guy in the middle rounds,

611
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: like I just haven't liked those rosters at all. That's

612
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: just me. Um, I think you're right. I think you

613
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: hit it right on the head. You know t J

614
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: is going somewhere in round twelve, late round twelve, you

615
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: know thirteen. Um, although there's gonna be a lot of

616
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: spots where he just drops to like the fourteen fifteen

617
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: round and and it's just that's just the nature of

618
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: the beast of that position. Um, it's gonna be very volatile,

619
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: especially the back end of drafts. But you met John Smith,

620
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin. I think Eric Ebron is another interesting name.

621
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, you know my love affair for Jack Doyle

622
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: as well. Um, Dallas God is hanging around too, So

623
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you know, t J. I think

624
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: he's supremely talented. Um, I think he's got I actually

625
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: think he's got better upside than Noah Fan. And look,

626
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: you know your former cohort um loves Noah Fan, absolutely

627
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: loves him. But I just I just don't see it

628
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: there with Fan, you know what I mean, Like he

629
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: struggles to catch the ball and you know, sorry, I

630
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: liked I like my my pass catchers actually have good

631
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: a you know, I see the talent with Noah Fan.

632
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's a lot of pass catchers

633
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: in that offense. At least there'll be a lot of

634
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: guys competing for targets in that offense, right, and you've

635
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: got Courtland Sutton, you know, then we're gonna see what

636
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: happens with you know, with Jerry Judy and kJ Hamler,

637
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think Albert oh is gonna

638
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: make that much of an impact this year. But there's

639
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: just a lot of guys I think battling for those

640
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: targets there in Denver, and that's you know, that's the

641
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: thing that scares me about fan. Yeah, the last thing

642
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: I'll say about Hackinson is this, I'm not gonna pay

643
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: a premium to get Hawkinson. I'm just not right. I'm

644
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: not gonna pay a twelveth round price to get Hawkinson.

645
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: But if he falls him in the fourteenth round, which

646
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: very well could happen, I'm not upset at that, you know.

647
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna wait on tight end for sure this year,

648
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And and if he's a guy

649
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: where all these other guys have gone and I get

650
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Hawk in like the fourteenth round, I'll be happy with that, honestly.

651
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: And I'll just probably just try to manage the position

652
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: like I do every year, no doubt. All right, So

653
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: over the Packers now, Liz what what is the ceiling

654
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers? I mean, we know they didn't draft

655
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: any wide receivers to help him out. He was kind

656
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: of salty about that. I mean, look, if if, if

657
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: you could count chips on shoulders, as you know, potential

658
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: fantasy points and Aaron Rodgers is the QB one this year.

659
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: But in terms of like real actual fantasy production, what

660
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: is his ceiling you think? I mean, so a couple

661
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: of things. R I p all of my Devin Funch's

662
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: hot takes because he also opted out, and I really

663
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't think that there was an opportunity there, and if anything,

664
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity to help Rogers um. Last year, Rogers average

665
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: seventeen fantasy points per game. That was the QB thirteen.

666
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: It is no coincidence. Nothing has changed, right, They lost

667
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham and now lost Evin fun just they didn't

668
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: draft anyone. I don't know how his ceiling can be

669
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: above QB twelve. He's my QB thirteen. Like, I feel

670
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: like we're gonna there's a very good chance we're gonna

671
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: see the same thing we saw last year. And it

672
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: is clear to me that the front office in Green

673
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: Bay does not believe that they are in a super

674
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: Bowl window, even if Aaron Rodgers thinks they should be.

675
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're in a super Bowl window,

676
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: and I think I think I think Aaron Rodgers still

677
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: has some good football left in him. Um. But the

678
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: problem is, yeah, they don't seem to be doing anything

679
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: to help him out. And it's just it's just sort

680
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: of frustrating, confusing. I don't I don't really get it.

681
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: So then that that's the next question for me. Then,

682
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: co which Green Bay Packers receiver do you believe in

683
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: the most in the non Davante Adams division. I will

684
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: give you a big nope on this one. I'm there's

685
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: no there's no one. There's no Green Bay receiver. I'm

686
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: no no one. There's absolutely no one. Look. Um, to

687
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: go back on what Lisz said, you know, he was

688
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was the quarterback thirteen um, and that's fine.

689
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: But he had a couple of bright spot games. But

690
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: other than that, he was a bad fantasy player at

691
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: that position last year. And I don't actually, I actually

692
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: don't blame Aaron Rodgers. I'm I'm not a Matt Lafleur guy. Um.

693
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, I could go into a whole bunch of reasons.

694
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, I will when we

695
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: talk about Aaron Jones. But um, for me, Aaron Rodgers

696
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: is just such a blow pick in fantasy this year.

697
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: You know he's going to eighth round, which if you

698
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: are an Aaron Rodgers fan, or if you're a football fan,

699
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh my god, I got Aaron Rodgers and

700
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: eighth round. This is great. No, I just think it's

701
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: such a blow pick, you know, Josh Allen, Carson, Wentz,

702
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. I think Daniel Jones is gonna basically give

703
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: you similar fantasy production to Rogers this year, and you're

704
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: giving guys like Daniel Jones like five rounds later. So um,

705
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: I don't see upside with Rogers at all this year.

706
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. By the way, by the way,

707
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: we might need to burn this tape. I can't believe

708
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm having these takes on Rogers and Marvin Jones. It

709
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: hurts my soul. It hurts my soul to be saying

710
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: these things. But it's true. It's absolutely true. Und say,

711
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: go ahead. I was gonna say, I do think that

712
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: when we're looking at the non Davante Adams division of players.

713
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: I totally understand why co is saying, Nope, you're not

714
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: going to get anything from me, and he's right because

715
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: the receivers are not worth talking about, whether it's the

716
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: Wizard King or people hoping that Equanimius st. Brown has

717
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: been ingratiated himself to Aaron Rodgerson also taken a couple

718
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: of yoga classes, because let's be honest, his tape is

719
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: stiff af Anyway, I think that Jason Sternburger we talked

720
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: about how this could be the podcast of young parents

721
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: while Jace is on the case because somebody that's a

722
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: Paw Patrol reference. Very cool. Somebody, somebody has got to

723
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: account for the sixty three targets now vacated by Jimmy

724
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: Graham and Sternberger. I mean, if we're throwing darts real

725
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: late or thinking like we're gonna stream at the tight

726
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: end position, which it sounds like you both do and

727
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: I do as well. Sternberger is a third round draft

728
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: pick from twenty nineteen. He's got enough speed to stretch

729
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: the field. He's great and contested situations. You all intend

730
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns over his final season at A and M. So

731
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: like again, I'm not sure that a breakout happens early

732
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: in the season for any of these young players, frankly,

733
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me if Sternberger by the end

734
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: of the season is that has become a security blanket

735
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: type player for Aaron Rodgers, like, you know, November ish

736
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: after Halloween. All right, I just I get we need

737
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: to put together a list, and I don't know what

738
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: this category would be, but like the the Green Bay

739
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: Packer fan Boy Hall of Fame or something like that,

740
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: because I feel like Jay stern Burger is jumping in there. Um.

741
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jake Kumero was in that list,

742
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: Jared Abbert, Dearris, there was the original blanking on who

743
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: is who was the original the original Packer fan boy

744
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: receiver who like that that for years we thought was

745
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna actually turn into something and never did. I'm blanking.

746
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna kill me. I wish Alex gal Hard were

747
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: here to help me out, but it just just stern

748
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: Burgers the next one in the list, right, He's the

749
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: next one on the list of the the Packer you know,

750
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Packer blogger, Twitter fan boy that you know, he's gonna

751
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: broake us, break us all down, and disappoint us. Um,

752
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: so you went to talking about Aaron Jones. Uh, So,

753
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: I just asked you, do you think he is still

754
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: a top ten fantasy running back this year? I think

755
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: he has the talent, no doubt, to be a top

756
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: ten back. There's absolutely no doubt about it. But let

757
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: me just say this, Matt Lafleur is not a good coach,

758
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: full stop. Okay. The Rams and the Titans improved their

759
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: offensive d v o W after la Fleur left both teams.

760
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: The Rams went from four point three yards per carried

761
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: a four point nine yards per carry after he left.

762
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: The Titans went from four point four yards per carried

763
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: a five point five point oh yards per carry after

764
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: he left. Those are significant gains. Oh, by the way,

765
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: we we dump on Mike McCarthy all the time. Okay.

766
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: When la Fleur joined this team last year, Green Bay's

767
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: offensive d v o WA went from seventh to eight. Okay,

768
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: So no, I don't. I don't. And by the way,

769
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: I have human eyes. I can see what it's happening

770
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: on the field, and I don't like what I see.

771
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, um, I don't think

772
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: this offense it's very starter stop. I don't think they

773
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: did anything to help Rogers whatsoever from a schematic stand point. Um.

774
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: Rogers obviously take some blame in that too, because he

775
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: likes to hold that ball. But there's just I don't

776
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: see I don't see them doing anything schematically other than

777
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: trying to establish a run game, UM to help Aaron Rodgers.

778
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones had so much of his fantasy value attached

779
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: to those touchdowns. Well, this is the problem A J.

780
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Dillon they drafted. He's an absolute monster two fifty pounds.

781
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: He ran a four five three forty with a forty

782
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: one inch vert at at two hundred and fifty pounds.

783
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: If you don't think he's getting goal line carries, I

784
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. A J. Dillon is

785
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: going to be a problem. Uh for those folks who

786
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: draft Aaron Jones. I think the touchdowns come way down.

787
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: I love Aaron Jones as a player. I don't think

788
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: they're utilizing him correctly. Um, and I just don't think

789
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a top ten fantasy running back to here.

790
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean, so does this mean? I mean, is this

791
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: is this sort of a David Montgomery situation where I

792
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: just got to kind of change my person. I mean,

793
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a tops in running back. But

794
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: if I if I squip and look until my head

795
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: the right way, can I find a spot for Aaron

796
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Jones on my roster? You can find a spot for

797
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: him as long as you're not expecting him to be

798
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: more than an RB two. And I don't know if

799
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: you get the value dropping to you that way, because

800
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone is done done the research.

801
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Coke hasn't done in your league. I mean maybe in

802
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: your league, but in the average league. Co is spot

803
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: on with this one. I also love that he brought

804
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: up the fact that Matt Lafleur likes to stop and

805
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: start like his offense is very jagged. It is not smooth,

806
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: and running back is what a position of rhythm. It is,

807
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: in fact, probably the position that requires the most rib

808
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: rhythm per any professional running back. Telling you that you

809
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: cannot talk about Aaron Jones without also talking about a J. Dillon,

810
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: who broke seventy eight tackles in RB four totally the

811
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: ball eight hundred and forty five times over his three

812
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: years is at BC. This is a work course. Oh

813
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: and by the way, he was also camped to the

814
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: player that Matt Lafleur is credited with unlocking, fairly so

815
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: or not. Last fun fact, when Jamal Williams and Aaron

816
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: Jones were both on the field and healthy last year,

817
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: their snap share was pretty close to fifty fifty. Matt

818
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Lafleur isn't interested in having a single running back backfield,

819
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: despite the talent that he has with Aaron Jones. Is

820
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: a hundred percent right that Dylan is going to be

821
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: the goal line gremlin and Jones's touchdowns are going to regress.

822
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: That's too bad. He is wildly talented. He is outside

823
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: of my top twelve players at the position, however, for

824
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: those reasons. Wow, So you guys have to convinced me

825
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: that Matt Lafleur's offense is like an Atlantis Moriset album.

826
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: It is a jagged little pill. Nice. Yes, thanks, appreciate, appreciate.

827
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: All right, that's over to the Minnesota Vike. Uh is

828
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: how high it's too high to draft Alvin Cook? I

829
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with him inside my top six. Maybe

830
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: maybe he's my RB six if I'm having a very

831
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: very positive day. The like news of the holdout ending

832
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: in him reporting to camp two days ago, although again,

833
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: practices aren't gonna happen because really can't. This week is

834
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: physicals and COVID tests. Um, that is optimistic, but I

835
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: just feel like the durability issues have me leaning towards

836
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: maybe more higher floor players like I I might personally

837
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: prefer Nick Chubb even um with the addition of students,

838
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: even with creat because I think as like staying of

839
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: completing six, staying on the field and so arafting in

840
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: the I'm not necessarily swinging for the fences in a

841
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: way that I WHI were counting on Cook. So inside

842
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: the top six might be a little bit too high

843
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: for me. Inside the top ten absolutely like in that

844
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, six to ten range. I'm very comfortable with

845
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: him there. Uh, James, I know you like guys. You

846
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: like you you will send to like jump all in

847
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: on certain guys. Are you jumping all in on Dalvin

848
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Cook or you being a little more cautious. Well, I

849
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: think what Liz was hitting at, and I totally agree

850
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: with this is the fact that he's not the most

851
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: durable cat out there right. Um, I think he is. Um,

852
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: He's perfect for this system. He's got speed, he's got

853
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: some size um outside zone run scheme all day long.

854
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: By the way, Stefanski moves on. But the guy who,

855
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I think was the architect of this

856
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: offense anyways, is Gary Kubiak. Um he stays on and

857
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: he assumes the offensive coordinated role. If you know anything

858
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: about fantasy football, if you know anything about the running game,

859
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: you know Gary Kubiak is an absolute mastermind when it

860
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: comes to the running game. So Dalvin is in a

861
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: very healthy spot. It's great. Unfortunately, he himself has dealt

862
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries throughout his career. Okay, now,

863
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: all of that being said, it's a fragile position anyways.

864
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Right we're talking about running back, and I'm not taking

865
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: him with a top three pick. But if I could

866
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: be convinced at taking him at four just because of

867
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: the Kubiak factor, Um, Look, he's in that tier for me.

868
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: That's what Alvin Kamara, Michael Thomas, Derrick Henry, He's in

869
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: that group, right, So I could be convinced. Look, I

870
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: have a man crush on Alvin Camaro, so I'm not

871
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: gonna take him at four. Could be convinced of it

872
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: at four. Um, And and certainly he's got that potential

873
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: and for all the reasons I just listed about Gary

874
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Kubiak and all the wonderful things that he has done

875
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: for fantasy running backs. I mean, you know, you think

876
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: about Steve Slaton, Arian Foster, you know those guys back

877
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: in the day. That's a real big reason why. And

878
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: I know it didn't pan out last year. But Alexander

879
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Mattinson to me, is the most high upside handcuff you

880
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: can own in fantasy this year. Yeah, I would. I

881
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: would totally hear that. I think Madison even mat I

882
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: was like, he has standalone value, but you know he

883
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: will get some opportunities uh this year. So I think

884
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: if you Draftdalvin Cook, it's almost mandatory that you go

885
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: out and you draft Alexander madisonson have that insurance there. Um, um,

886
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: are we too low on Justin Jefferson. I say this

887
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to pump up my own ego because

888
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: I've been I think he is going to be the

889
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: number one Fantasy rookie wide receiver because of the opportunity.

890
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like he's being drafted like that. Um.

891
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: So I would like it if you would pump up

892
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: my ego a little bit. Please don't tell me that.

893
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm um if I'll start, But I mean he's six one,

894
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: two oh five. He ran a four four three forty, right,

895
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: so he's got all the athletic attributes of a of

896
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: a premium wide receiver, right. Um, he's smooth. He just

897
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: has great catch radius. Um, and you talk about the

898
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: price right now, he's going around pick one twenty so

899
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: tenth round if you're in a twelve teamer. Okay, Um

900
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: to me, I'm just I love the player. I'm a

901
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: little bit confused by the fit. I know there's so

902
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: many targets for grabs now that Stefan Digs is gone,

903
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: but he was a matchup problem as a slat receiver

904
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: and only he was met as an outside receiver there

905
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: for l s U. Right, so is this an offense?

906
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: And I get Mike Zimmer's the head coach, but and

907
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: it would be a Mike Zimmer fever dream to to

908
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: run the ball sixty times a game. But I'm just confused.

909
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: You've got two slat receivers in Adam Feeling and Justin Jefferson, Like,

910
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: how do you run this offense? I'm just I guess

911
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't really understand how they're gonna build

912
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: the passing game, um, and especially around Kirk Cousins, who

913
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, obviously took a little bit of a step

914
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: back last year. So UM, to me, I think the

915
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: pick around one twenty sounds about right. He's a rookie.

916
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have camp Um. I think he'll be

917
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: slow out of the gates. Um, it's not a great

918
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: pass offense. And overall, I'm just confused as to what

919
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: role he will play. Are they going to kick him outside?

920
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: Because he certainly has a speed to do it, size

921
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: of speeds to do it, but Um didn't look great

922
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: as an outside wide receiver at L s U. I

923
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: also think he had one of the most efficient quarterbacks

924
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: to play the college game under center helping him. He

925
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: had Jamar Chase on the outside helping him do what

926
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: he can do. I don't think that Justin Jefferson's talent

927
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: is mitigated to just being a slot receiver. I comped

928
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: his ceiling to Keenan Allen when I was watching his

929
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: tape in the spring. I think he can become that.

930
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: But again, as Co points out, he is a rookie

931
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: in a Mike zimmer offense. I don't know if he

932
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: has the tools around him necessarily to replicate, to copy

933
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: and paste what he did with the Tigers. Immediately, I

934
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: think when I think of Justin Jefferson, and I posted

935
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: this on my Instagram. I like to do a weekly

936
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: would you rather Wednesdays? I did a rookie addition this

937
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: past Wednesday between Jalen Reagor, who's going around the same place,

938
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: and Justin Jefferson. So, Marcus, I ask you then back

939
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: to you, I know my answer, but would you rather have?

940
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: And you're looking in the double digit rounds Justin Jefferson,

941
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: who was I would gather your thinking floor player because

942
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: of what he's able to do and his fit in

943
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: the offense versus Jalen Reagor, who at TCU was more gadgetty.

944
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: And also you got Alshon Jeffrey starting the pup. You

945
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: got Marquis Goodwin, who you know was signed to the

946
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: Eagles um opting out of the season for personal reasons.

947
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: So which of those two would you take? If you

948
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: are looking at the same if you're you know, if

949
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: they're both available at the same sensible place in a draft. Yeah,

950
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean I think, look, I was big on Justin Jefferson,

951
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: and I still like him, but I think the events

952
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: of the past forty eight hours or so has closed

953
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: that gap quite a bit between he and Reagor because

954
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: of what you mentioned, Because Alshan, Jeffrey very well could

955
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: miss the start of the season, because Marquis Goodwin is

956
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: not going to be there, because de Sean Jackson, for

957
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: you know, when he's there, he's great. He just hasn't

958
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: been on the field a whole lot the last couple

959
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: of years, So that means there are opportunities there. By

960
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: the way, I have completely given up on my my

961
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: fever dream of j j Artego Whiteside actually becoming a thing.

962
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that that that's gonna ever happen. Um

963
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: so so, yeah, I mean, because I think the the

964
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: the the gap for me between Jefferson and Reagor has

965
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: shrunk quite a bit. Uh So, I think, you know,

966
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: if all things being equal, they were both there in

967
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: the same spot, yeah, I probably would take Regor Sanks.

968
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for talking me out of my position. I to

969
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: him a wife a low to do it, Liz, Is

970
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: it over for Kirk Cousins. I mean, this guy was

971
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: a fantasy Darling in Washington. It just hasn't quite been

972
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: the same in Minnesota. Is it over or can you can?

973
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Gary koubya helped bring him back a little bit. I mean,

974
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: Flip tried to do it and Zimmer was like Zimmer.

975
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: Zimmer was like, no, no, no, we don't want you

976
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, Flip, Flip hat and uh. And

977
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: then Flip got fired after that lost in Seattle. So

978
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, my Zimmer offense, I don't think that he

979
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: is going to put up the same numbers. Also, the

980
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: quarterback position is so stinking deep this season, and and

981
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: when you're looking at quarterbacks, like this is a kind

982
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: of a side conversation, but the top my top eight

983
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are all mobile threats. Kirk Cousins you can move

984
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like, I don't think anyone's looking

985
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: at Kirk Cousins and calling him a mobile QB. Right, So, like,

986
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: if you don't have if the cheek codes aren't in

987
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: your legs, then you're not being drafted in in the

988
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: first twelve, and then you're streaming unless you're in a

989
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: super flex, right, then you're looking for your bioweeker or

990
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: an injury replacement. Yeah, I mean I think that's fair.

991
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I I've drafted Kirk Cousins anywhere. I just

992
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: was sort of looking at it as like a guy

993
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: who just has fallen off a fantasy cliff. I mean,

994
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: just thinking about those days in Washington when he was

995
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: kind of a top five, top ten guy, to the

996
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: fact that you know, he's essentially not relevant and he's

997
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: basically free when it comes to the draft capital now

998
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: and um yeah, I mean, I guess this is probably

999
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: his life now. Um, before we get to the he's

1000
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: still oh yeah, no, I'm not sad like he won't

1001
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: be in government cheese anytime soon. I'm not worried about that. Um.

1002
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Before we get to the superlatives. By the way, Jeff Janie,

1003
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: that's the name I was trying to think of. Oh yeah, there,

1004
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Jane He was He was Packer fanboy favorite number

1005
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: one for a long time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

1006
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Um alright, so some superlatives here, both of you guys

1007
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: that I will throw it out to one of you,

1008
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: but both you can jump in and uh and give

1009
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: me your answers. Here, James co, who do you think

1010
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: will be the top scoring fantasy tight end from the

1011
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: NFC North this year. This division is an absolute graveyard

1012
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: at this man, I mean, who are we talking about

1013
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: right now? Kyle Rudolph, T J. Hawkinson? Marcedes Lewis is

1014
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: the Marcedes low was first of all League. I don't

1015
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: know how, but he's the starter for Green Bay, you know, allegedly.

1016
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: But we'll see. I'm sure we'll see some. J. Sternberger,

1017
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, who I say is made of legos, like

1018
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: talking about right now, you know, I mean the guy said,

1019
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: I've got penciled in our backups. IRV Smith, colek met

1020
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Jay Sternberger. I get. If I had to pick one,

1021
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: I'll say it's T. J. Hockinson, but I don't like

1022
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: his situation. But I'll go with the Hawk, all right,

1023
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: Do you agree, Liz or you have a different name.

1024
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, if he doesn't, if Co doesn't

1025
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: mention IRV Smith, we just gotta say his name. But

1026
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Hawk is the clearing Yeah, I mean I would think

1027
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: so too. I mean that's probably I asked this question though,

1028
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: because it is just a It is a graveyard for

1029
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: fantasy tight end in this division. Um. Alright, So in

1030
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: the past, if I asked you the top scoring fantasy

1031
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: quarterback from this division. The you know, the reflex reaction

1032
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: would have been Aaron Rodgers. I don't think that's the case.

1033
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: So I'll start with you, Liz. I mean, who is

1034
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: the top scoring fantasy quarterback in this division? This Matt Stafford.

1035
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it pains me to say it, but Matt

1036
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Stafford if he can say with Bevil opening things up

1037
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: and the that, I mean the tandem, you've got the

1038
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: tandem too, of Golladay and Jones, I think that's going

1039
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: to be your answer. I think that's probably the right answer. Um.

1040
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: I can also convince my I, but I would probably

1041
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: still say it's probably still Aaron Rodgers just because, um, look,

1042
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: is he gonna give you fourty touchdowns? You know? Absolutely not,

1043
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: But he's so used to at this point putting the

1044
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: offense on his back, and I and I still think

1045
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: that he will put together a more consistent season than

1046
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. M again, mostly because I think pencil Bro

1047
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: doesn't want to throw the ball um and I think

1048
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: that will limit uh the opportunities overall for Matt Stafford.

1049
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: But I think Stafford's probably the right answer. Every time

1050
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned Matt, Patricia, I feel like I have to

1051
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: sit up straighter in my seat and improve my posture.

1052
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: The biggest sleeper or sleepers, if you got more than

1053
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: one coming out of this division, Yeah, to two of

1054
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: them for me? Um, you know, well, I'll save one.

1055
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: But and and I talked about Alexander Madison. UM. I

1056
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: think he's got the highest ceiling of all the handcuffs.

1057
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: UM in fantasy. I'm going to be investing in him,

1058
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: probably sooner than I probably should be. But I love

1059
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: his prospects. It totally did not work out last year.

1060
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: I did the exact same thing. But Dalvin was great

1061
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: last year. But he does have a pretty extensive injury

1062
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: history going all the way back to high school. Um

1063
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: and so and again and again. I'm not I'm not

1064
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: rooting for it. I'm just telling you facts. Okay, I'm

1065
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: just reporting the facts here. I'm not rooting for a

1066
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's injury. I'm just saying, if we're playing the numbers,

1067
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: I do think that Dalvin you know, is likely to

1068
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: miss you know, a few games, if not more. Uh.

1069
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: In and I wouldn't be surprised if Alexander Madison UM

1070
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: has a little bit of a breakout, all right, let's

1071
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: here's you get I mean, I think, I think, I

1072
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: when I probably have the same person who we are

1073
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: going to talk about a little bit later. Um, I

1074
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: would say the biggest breakout Again, it would not surprise

1075
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: me to see j Sternberger do something. I do think. However,

1076
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a sleeper he is.

1077
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: Tore Cohen needs to be mentioned as we're discussing fantasy

1078
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: options within the NFC north right, because you know he

1079
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: has um some dual threat ability. Yes, he's used more

1080
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher. But he is the human joystick

1081
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: or nicknames such for a reason. And so I think again,

1082
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: if you're looking to add, especially in PPR friendly formats

1083
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: in that are B three flex range, he is someone

1084
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: you might want to consider. And he is not terribly

1085
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: expensive given his current ADP. I'd like I like to

1086
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: re coen and I've drafted him in a number of

1087
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: spot especially because at the price of where you're getting

1088
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: him and knowing that you know they dude that so

1089
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: many targets last year and I don't I don't think

1090
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: that changes this year. Um. Alright, last one in this category, Liz,

1091
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: who's the most overdrafted player or players in the NFC

1092
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: North most overdrafted Mike Travisky um drafted drafted at all.

1093
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it goes up and down every day.

1094
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: But the most oh, that's a good question. The most

1095
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: overdrafted player is Danny Avendola being drafted, like, uh, maybe

1096
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 1: maybe Alan Lazard. I think probably Alan Lizard, for there's

1097
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: a whole lot of um assumptions going on about what

1098
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: Lizard will do, and I hate, I hate to believe

1099
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: that the bulk of them are be us. He was

1100
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: went to Aaron Rodgers house for Thanksgiving last year, you know,

1101
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: so I feel like maybe maybe I'm not. I'm not

1102
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: as hopeful as a lot of people are about Lizard,

1103
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: and so I think that might be the most likely

1104
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: of the well regularly drafted options to bust. Well, look,

1105
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard went to Aaron Rodgers house for Thanksgiving. Alan

1106
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: Lazard is getting more targets than Aaron Rodgers brother. Coincidence,

1107
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: I think not very good. Uh, Cody, you have the

1108
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: overdrafted category. I'll stay on that same team. And again,

1109
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: please cal fans, please don't don't get mad at me.

1110
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: But I do think Aaron Rodgers is the most overdrafted

1111
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: player in the NFC North. You know, he's going the

1112
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: eighth round at a position we're talking about quarterback that

1113
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: it's you can wait, you know, and I know we

1114
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: say that all the time, but but really, though Aaron

1115
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers was not a special player last year, there's they

1116
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: didn't address their biggest need, which was wide receiver at all,

1117
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: not through the draft, not through free agency nothing. I

1118
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: don't I don't understand what this this team is doing

1119
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: from a construction standpoint um, But whatever, bottom line is,

1120
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: they got no help for Aaron Rodgers. Again, I don't

1121
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: like the coaches there, So to me, Aaron Rodgers going

1122
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: the eighth round feels way way too high. And I

1123
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: get it, you know it's Aaron Rodgers. By the way,

1124
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: Can we can we put to bed this whole? Aaron

1125
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers is gonna have a revenge season. You guys, he's upset.

1126
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: He's been upset for like five years in a row,

1127
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like stop, you know,

1128
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: like guys, every year he's upset. You know, like how

1129
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: many times have it panned out? You know? Like at

1130
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: this point, you know, he's an older player, he's got

1131
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: no weapons. He can be upset all he wants, but

1132
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. So for me, most overdrafted player,

1133
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You just turned Aaron Rodgers into old man

1134
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: yells at cloud like I never thought I was all right?

1135
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: All right, um and with some either oars uh like.

1136
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: You don't need any deep analysis and you can use

1137
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: whatever criteria you want to pick between these two things.

1138
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: I will start with you, Liz Allen Lazard or Anthony Miller. Oh,

1139
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: this is easy. It's Anthony Miller. I mean, he was

1140
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: the sleeper I wanted to talk about, but I knew

1141
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: this question was coming. You can stay healthy. He is amazing.

1142
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: This is a player who I comped to Doug Baldwin

1143
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: coming out of college. Ace Talent posted seven touchdowns in

1144
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: eighteen despite playing through the shoulder dislocation over the last

1145
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: three months of his rookie year and absolutely started slow,

1146
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: but by mid November he was back to form. He

1147
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: posted five consecutive Fantasy relevant stat lines and averaged over

1148
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: eighty six yards per game from weeks eleven to fifteen

1149
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: before spraining his A C joint in week sixteen. So again,

1150
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: the key is health. But if he has it and

1151
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: there's an extra time to rest, Um, I think Miller

1152
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: is a fantastic value and sleeper within the division. Do

1153
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: you concur mr Co? Oh yeah, I'm I'm so big

1154
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: on Anthony Miller this year. Man, you know, just giving

1155
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: the price tag, he's going double digit rounds. I love

1156
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: I love this pick, you know, mostly because Bill Laser

1157
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: is the guy that I think could unlock h Miller.

1158
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: First of all, Miller's that third year wide receiver. We

1159
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: know about that trope, that narrative, but I think it

1160
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: holds a lot of water in look. Per next gent stats,

1161
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: Miller saw of his targets from the slot last year.

1162
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: And when Laser was the O C for the Bengals

1163
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: in eighteen, um, he had you know, a healthy complement

1164
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: of players the first eight games of the season, Okay,

1165
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton threw into the slott of the time. Per

1166
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: next gent stats, Tyler Boyd went absolutely crazy. Okay. He

1167
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: averaged six receptions eight yards per game to go along

1168
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: with five touchdowns over those first eight aimes. Look, I'm

1169
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: not saying Anthony Miller is gonna give you those numbers,

1170
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: but um, I think the Laser offense will feature the

1171
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: slot a little bit more. Um And and I think

1172
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller is a great player. So uh, for me,

1173
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: it's Miller all day long. I'm really excited, um, he

1174
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: to me and PPR could be an absolute breakout. Mm hmm. Alright, alright, um,

1175
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: all right, So I'll start with you on this one,

1176
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: then go Kirk Cousins or Nick Foles. Now come on,

1177
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: it's still I mean, very Cousins all we want, but

1178
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: Nick Foles isn't even starting at this point. You know

1179
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: what I meant to start. You're probably right, and you're

1180
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: probably right. And as a matter of fact, um, you know,

1181
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie is probably gonna listen to this podcast. He's

1182
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna take my advice. He's gonna go with a

1183
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: two quarterback system. Nick Foles is gonna get a little burn.

1184
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: But no, look, you know what I'll also say this,

1185
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense is gonna be trash this year, absolute trash

1186
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: and um and I think I think that will force

1187
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to force to throw the ball more than

1188
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: they would like. Um. And so for those reasons, I

1189
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: do think Kirk Cousins uh will have a better fans.

1190
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we're burying Kirk, but not for

1191
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. Come on, come on, you're not gonna

1192
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: you guys are feeling that big Nick energy. Come on? Really?

1193
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: So I assume you're going Kirk Cousins as well, then, Liz,

1194
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean I'm going with the player that I think

1195
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: is most likely to play sixteen games. So yes, but

1196
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: I do like whose point about the defensive salad. That's fair?

1197
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: Um all right, uh, Liz, Tupacer, Biggie West Coast is

1198
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: the best coast. Give me too back? All right? All right,

1199
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: I figured James, where are you going now? Don't make

1200
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: me pick? Man? Um, look, Big is a better natural rapper? Okay,

1201
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: better natural opper is Biggie? Okay? To podcasts the better

1202
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: catalog though, and that that's not even up for debate,

1203
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,959
Speaker 1: right so um man, uh, God, don't make me pick.

1204
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: I will say this, I enjoy if I enjoy Biggie more,

1205
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: but I have way more two POC songs alright, And

1206
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: I feel like if if any of the people who

1207
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: run those verses, uh you know, contests, are are watching

1208
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: or listening to this podcast, can we get like Dr

1209
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: dre and did and Diddy to do like a verse

1210
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: that would shut the internet to play Tupocket that would

1211
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: shut the internet down, bro right, but you don't do that.

1212
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: If they want to do their own stuff, that's great.

1213
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: But even they just did Poc and Biggie songs like whatever,

1214
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: just have them do it, alright. Uh last one, uh Liza,

1215
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: the crunchy tacos. Wow, well, I think has brought enough pain,

1216
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: so I don't need little shards of fried tortilla busting

1217
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: up the roof of my mouth so much like my

1218
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: little my middle, not my little much like my middle.

1219
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a list soft right now. That

1220
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 1: is the correct answer, Listen, that's the correct answer, because

1221
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: crunchy tacos are just rude, al right, Like you have

1222
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: a crunchy taco in your car, and like, let's say

1223
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: you take that bite. Now, all of a sudden, you've

1224
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: got taco bits everywhere. You know what I'm saying. Like

1225
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: to me, crunchy tacos, they're just they're rude, Like you

1226
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, don't give me a crunchy taco.

1227
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: If I give you a crunchy taco, that's like inviting

1228
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: you to drop crumbs all over my floor. That's not

1229
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: what I want. Give you a soft taco and you're

1230
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy it, you know what I mean? So so

1231
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: soft is definitely the right answer. I think it's the

1232
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: right answer also because if you go to an actual,

1233
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, taco truck, they don't serve you crunchy tacos.

1234
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: They give you the soft like, you know, like that.

1235
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: I would rather take a taco from a truck then

1236
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: from like taco bell all day. So that's all right

1237
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: answer there is ye all day long, all day long.

1238
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys coming on. We went a

1239
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: little bit longer than normal, but I appreciate you guys talking.

1240
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: It was fun. We had a great time. At least

1241
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: I think we had a great time. I hope you agree.

1242
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: Um uh. For those who don't know where to find

1243
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: your work, Liz Loza, where can they do that? You

1244
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: can follow me on social at Liz Losa underscore ff.

1245
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: That's the same handle for Twitter and Instagram, and then

1246
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: you can check out Yahoo's Sports. There's I got an

1247
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: author page. It's pretty Just go to the Twitter handle.

1248
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: Sounds good, James Co, I know you were. You're a

1249
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: man of many places, a man of many talents. Where

1250
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,959
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Right now? Um? I'm gonna

1251
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: be Uh. I just re upped with both Direct TV

1252
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and Amazon Prime, so I'm excited to uh to get back.

1253
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, so it should be good. Um. But no,

1254
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna be back on Fantasy z own for I

1255
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: don't know how we're gonna do it, but but uh,

1256
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean how do you watch you know, twelve games

1257
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: all at once from your house? Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we're gonna do anyways, whatever, bottom line is, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we have Fantasy Zone coming back uh in the fall,

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Speaker 1: which is great, and Amazon Prime Uh, and Amazon Prime

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Speaker 1: show NFL next. Um, I will be their resident next

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Speaker 1: young stats analyst. Uh. I was gonna mention more stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I guess I can't so. Um, but that show

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Speaker 1: will be back as well. Um, really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: But man, I'm really hoping people will buy into this

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Speaker 1: concept of a micro podcast. Um, it's five minutes. It's

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Speaker 1: called The Fantasy Five with James co It's on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: it's on Apple. Um, we're working on Google right now.

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Speaker 1: But it's five minutes of your time. Just throw it

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Speaker 1: into the rotation. That's all I ask, you know, just

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Speaker 1: give me a chance. It's just five minutes. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: coming out you know, three times a week. First episode

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Speaker 1: just dropped on Wednesday. It was another one at another

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Speaker 1: episodes coming out tomorrow. Um, and and you know it'll

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Speaker 1: be fun. It's five minutes. We just you know, we

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Speaker 1: just hit the top of the hot topics and we

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Speaker 1: get in, we get out and that's it, you know.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know, I'll give you some sleepers, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you some wave of wire ads stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But it's a Fantasy five podcast with James Go and

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Speaker 1: I would really appreciate folks to kind of just at

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Speaker 1: least give it a test run. So wait, I'm all

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Speaker 1: about it. And by the way, if you're worried about,

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Speaker 1: you know, watching all the games, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: get getting bezos to send you a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: TVs like that, Dude's got that's true on like before

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Speaker 1: you can TV and you can watch every game you want.

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Speaker 1: There before we get out of here, my own little

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Speaker 1: bit of shameless self promotion, sign up for the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Game. Go to NFL dot com slash Fantasy sign up,

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Speaker 1: start your league, renew your league, get it all going today. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, training camp is pretty much upon us. So

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy game is live and we want you all

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Speaker 1: to jump in and play. I mean, the reason you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this because you play fantasy football, So come

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Speaker 1: play with us. There you go. That is it. We

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Speaker 1: are done. We appreciate your listening and downloading and watching.

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Speaker 1: As always, you know the drill. Tell two friends to

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Speaker 1: tell to friends, rate review, and remember, if you have

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Speaker 1: a secret, people will sit a little bit closer. Take

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Speaker 1: care of yourselves, wear a mask, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week.