1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field. We're a little late 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: getting into the studio this week, West, but it's been 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: kind of a busy week with regard to the Packers 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: making their roster decisions, trimming things down to the initial 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: fifty three man or I guess at the moment two 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: man roster for season. I want to start with what 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: I think are the two biggest pieces of news to 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: come out of the roster decisions from this week. One 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: is that the Packers decided to put David bak Tr 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: on regular season pu p that means physically unable to perform. 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: He was on the pup list for all of training camp. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Starting the regular season, there means that he is out 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: for a minimum of the for six weeks of the 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: regular season, so Elton Jenkins will be this team's left 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: tackle for at least the first six games of one 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: And the other big piece of news is the Packers 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: are going to have a new punter in with the 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: release of J K. Scott and a trade in the work. 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: So I will let you start on those two nuggets 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: and let me know your thoughts. One I thought was 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of the inevitable. One kind 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: of caught me by surprise, and and really the decision 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: at Puncher was the only thing that I think kind 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: of surprised me throughout this process. And generally speaking, I 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: thought green Bay really did win the roster reduction. I 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: think they put together a really strong sixteen man practice squad, 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: and I like the way they built the fifty three. 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: It made a lot of sense, uh for for box 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Tri though, this was something that I actually have to 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: admit I was not fully educated on. I originally was 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: operating under the assumption the packers would be able to 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: bring him back onto the the active roster and then 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: place him on injury reserve. That is not the case. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: If a guy is going to be placed in I 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: ARE he has to pass a physical first and then 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: either have whether it would be an aggravation or different 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: injury than be eligible for i R. So box tr 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: actually wasn't going to be able to go that route. 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: In the past that never mattered, But with the way 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: the NFL has shifted to having a three week injured reserve. Now, 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: that's why it was sort of a topic. So what 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: the facts are is that he's on the physically unable 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: to perform list regular season that takes him out for 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the first six games of the year. Here, he would 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: be eligible to come back for Washington. For a lot 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: of organizations, For a lot of football teams, this would 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: be doomsday type news to lose a five time All 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Pro left tackle. The Green Bay Packers not saying they 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: don't want to have David bok tr out there, but 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: they have probably as good of a safety net as 54 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: you're going to find in the NFL with Elton Jenkins 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: being able to play that position. There were so many 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: articles I read this summer, Mike about teams that were 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: dealing with injuries at left tackle, the indian Indianapolis Colts 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: among them, and there were a lot of questions as 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: far as who was going to be able to man 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that position. Since the day that this team reported back 61 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: in July, that has not been a question here. Elton 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Jenkins has been the guy in the Packers feel pretty 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: good about him going into the regular season. Yeah, and 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: as much as the Packers do feel good about the 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: way things are set up on the offensive line. With 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins moving to left tackle. Looks like you're going 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: to have a rookie starting at guard in Royce Newman. 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: We all know obviously since the day he arrived, Josh 69 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: Myers will be the rookie second round draft picks starting 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: at center. As good as the Packers feel about their 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: offensive line and how it sets up to navigate this 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: absence of box TR, we do have to make one 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: thing clear, and the the status of the offensive line 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't really have to do with the decision on bok TR. 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: This decision on bok TR is about protecting a major 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: investment in one of the best players in the game. 77 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: The Packers recently extended him, signed him to a big, 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: long term contract. The last thing they are going to 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: do is jeopardize that by rushing him back and bringing 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: him back too early. This wasn't going to be a 81 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: case of, you know, oh well, if they don't have 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins to play left tackle, and there's all these questions, 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna rush David Barton. No, that's not what the 84 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: approach of this organization was going to be. They do 85 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: feel good about where they are on the offensive line. 86 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: But the box tr decision was about David bok tr 87 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: situation first and foremost. Yeah, and it was good. I mean, 88 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Brian good Con said, I mean he didn't feel comfortable 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: him personally putting back Tr in that position. I'm sure David, 90 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: if he had his brothers, would be out there against 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans. But the story I'll tell everybody now that 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: we have a real in house example is in his gains, 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean in his gains tears as a c L 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: during his junior year against TCU. He comes back playing 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: four TCU, comes back in six months and ends up 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: tearing the same knee again. That's what you're looking to 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: avoid the Packers, like they mentioned, there's a nine to 98 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: eleven month window there for a lot of offensive lineman 99 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: returning from this injury. There's really, especially early in the 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: season here, where they have some fluidity, There's some you know, 101 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: versatility that they can take advantage of with that offensive line. 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: It's better to be able to make sure that Bat 103 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: is in a good spot so that this team that 104 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: has real Super Bowl hopes for two thousand and twenty 105 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: one can have their best player available down you know, 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: whatever point it comes, but definitely down the stretch yea. 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: And just to provide some perspective on the timeline here, 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: the fastest we've ever seen anybody come back from an 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: a c L in Green Bay was Brian Bolag a 110 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: few years ago. And botr E being on pup for 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: at least the first six weeks of one season. Essentially, 112 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: when he's eligible to come off p pup within a 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: week or so is almost almost matches up to Brian 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: Bulag's timeline. So now every injury is different. I'm not 115 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: saying the Packers are following the Brian Bolagh a timeline 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: because every individual individual and every injury is different. But 117 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: just to provide that perspective. That was eye opening too 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: when Bolaga did that. You guy, remember he actually toured 119 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: at the beginning of November and he was ready for 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: week one. This is a little bit different. This was 121 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: New Year's Day or New Years even New Years Practice 122 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: of week seventeen, almost two full months later. So Box 123 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: are very much still on the same timeline, just trying 124 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: to make sure you can get him healthy. Yeah, and 125 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: with regard to a new punter, a trade is in 126 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: the works for Corey b yor Quaz hopefully I'm pronouncing 127 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: that correctly, punted three seasons for the Buffalo Bills, was 128 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: in training camp this summer with the Los Angeles Rams, 129 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: but the Rams decided despite Bi york was having a 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: really impressive preseason, they decided to stick with their tried 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and true veteran, the All Pro Johnny Hecker. So the Packers, 132 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: seeing that by Us was going to become available. But 133 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: the Packers, being a conference runner up from a year ago, 134 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: very very low in the waiver claim order, Brian Gudokuntz 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: was not going to take the chance that this punter 136 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: could be claimed in front of him. So a little 137 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: swap of draft picks for the future down the road 138 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: guarantees that the Packers get him. B York was doesn't 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: actually go on waivers, and he's on his way to 140 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Green Bay to join the Packers. And this is a 141 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: punter that Brian Goodacom is the personnel staff feel is 142 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: is one of these young players with the arrow pointing 143 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: up and you just have to look at his statistics 144 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen in Buffalo to to see, um, you 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: know that that arrow pointing up for this young man. Yeah, 146 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: and you know the Bills. They ended up going in 147 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: a different direction. They signed Matt Hack, who was a 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: little bit more of an established punter this offseason, so 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: that allowed york has to kind of hit free agency 150 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 1: in a month into it felt like maybe Los Angeles, rams, 151 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: a place where he's actually from southern California, might be 152 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: a good fit for him. As you mentioned here, there 153 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: was a five time four time All Pro and Johnny 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: Hecker there, but Hecker's had some you know, injuries, There's 155 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: been some issues there the last few seasons. So it 156 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: was a legitimate competition right down to the final bell. 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: There was a contract thing kind of going on with 158 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: with Hecker as well, which is also partly why b 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: York was maybe wasn't brought back to Buffalo because of 160 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: becoming a restricted free agent and and with the depressed 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: cap and all of that. So lots of circumstances lead 162 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: to the thing. And now suddenly Corey borku was is 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packer. But and as I told people 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: an insider inbox, because they were asking about special teams, 165 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: what are the Packers doing to improve their special teams? 166 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I said that they are turning over all the stones. 167 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Now they are taking a look. They're casting a wide net. 168 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: JJ Molson came back on the practice squad as a kicker. 169 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time the Packers kept a 170 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: kicker on the initial roster going into the season on 171 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Obviously, Molson was there at the end 172 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: of the last season as the COVID replacement. You know, 173 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: there's questions they're about, you know, how they're going to 174 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: handle these coverage units. At the end of the day. 175 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: J K. Scott probably the most talented punter during my 176 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: time on the beat that the Packers have had, but 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: consistency was an issue. They feel like the Orcus is 178 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: a guy that can help kind of calm those waters 179 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. And with some cold weather experience having 180 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: punted in Buffalo for a couple of seasons. Absolutely, And 181 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: even though he's a left footed punter, a right footed holder, 182 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: right footed, right footed, right, that would be a trick West, 183 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: that would be something that would actually get some ratings. 184 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: All right handed gentleman despite being a left footed punders. 185 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: So what we'll see how it all shakes out. Yeah, well, um, quickly, 186 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: here we's some sponsor business. 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We we've talked 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: before about about how as rare as it can be, 196 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: you can never necessarily count out these guys that show 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: up part way through training camp. Everybody kind of wonders, like, 198 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: why are you bringing someone in like after the first 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: preseason game. How does he get a chance to show 200 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: what he can do well? Three guys Dennis Kelly, I 201 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: key at Um the cornerback, Kelly being the backup offensive tackle, 202 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: I keat him at cornerback, and Chauncey Rivers the edge rusher. 203 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: All three of those guys show up after training camp starts, 204 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: and all three of them end up surviving final cuts 205 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: and are on this Packers roster. And uh and Rivers 206 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: a really interesting story and just in terms of a 207 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of the connections here. He went to junior college 208 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: route played at East Mississippi Community College, the school made 209 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: famous by the Last Chance You show on Netflix, which 210 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: was also a school that Zadarius Smith attended earlier in 211 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: his career. Rivers also went to the same high school, 212 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: not at the same time, but the same high school 213 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: as Preston Smith, and both of those guys also coming 214 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: out of Mississippi State, and the Packers with other younger 215 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: Mississippi State players like kyl and Hill, like Elton Jenkins, 216 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: guys that Chauncey Rivers played with, it must not have 217 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: been a whole lot of a big transition for that 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: guy to walk into the Packers locker room. A lot 219 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: of familiar faces. Yeah, I think he even said he 220 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: walked in the cafeteria and like Preston was like laughing 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: whenever they locked eyes the first time. So yeah, for 222 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: a guy that's showing up on August fifth or whatever 223 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: it was, I mean, obviously, uh, he's been around this 224 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: some of these guys on this football team. You know. 225 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: The thing that's great about Chauncey Rivers story is this 226 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: is a guy that when you talk about the deck 227 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: kind of being stacked against you. Last year, he's trying 228 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: to make Baltimore's roster as an undrafted free agent during 229 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: COVID H he sticks on the practice squad all year, 230 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: got elevated for one game, but ultimately came back trying 231 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: to crack the roster this year, and then a weekend 232 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: a training camp gets cut. Now, as I wrote in 233 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: the story that we have on Packers dot com, that 234 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: is a death knell usually for players that are undrafted 235 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: free agents or first two players getting cut the first 236 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: week at camp. Because you know, everybody likes to talk about, oh, 237 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: who's gonna these guys are gonna get claimed, or or 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: this guy is not gonna be able to make our 239 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: fifty three, but the other thirty teams are gonna want him. 240 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: The reality is is that these teams have been developing 241 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: their own rosters for three four months. When a guy 242 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: comes free at the beginning of August, it's a really 243 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: long odds for him to make the fifty three man roster. 244 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Some have done it, you know, Jamal Jamal Crawford, James 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Crawford a number of years ago did it with Green Bay. 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: But for Rivers to come in and make the statement 247 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: that he made. He's not the tallest pass rusher you've 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: ever seen, six ft two two and fifty nine pounds, 249 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: but he just was explosive and as he said, I 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: mean he had a fire and inside himself. After the 251 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravers, Ravens cut him. And for Green Bay, it 252 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: was perfect timing. They just lost Randy Ramsey to that 253 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: ankle injury. They needed bodies at outside linebacker with said 254 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Darius Smith being injured, with Rashawn Gary and Preston Smith 255 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: sitting out of the preseason games, and here's Chauncey Rivers 256 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: getting a big opportunity and he capitalized it, especially against Buffalo. 257 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say, we've talked a lot, and 258 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: we were talking last week about there's always going to 259 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: be somebody who states their case and and earns a 260 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: roster spot in that last preseason game, somebody that you 261 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: don't think is necessary, or somebody who is definitely on 262 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: the bubble has not solidified a spot on the roster. 263 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: And I would say, really, two guys, in my mind 264 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: did that. Rivers did that. The Packers had been with 265 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: with the Smith's and Gary not playing in the preseason games, 266 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: the Packers had not had much edge rush pressure in 267 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: the preseason games, and then in the first half against Buffalo, 268 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo starters are on the field and Chauncey Rivers gets 269 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: a ten yard sack of All Pro quarterback Josh Allen. 270 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that that make people 271 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: take notice of you. The other guy, I would say, 272 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion, earned his roster spot in that final 273 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: preseason game in Buffalo was the sixth round draft pick 274 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: out of Boston College, Isaiah McDuffie. This was a young 275 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: man who was dealing with I believe it was a 276 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: hamstring injury early in camp. Miss some time. I'll miss 277 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: the first preseason game if I'm not mistaken. Second preseason game, 278 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, did find a little bit up and down. 279 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: Then the third preseason game he showed up to play 280 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: um defense, special teams. It was all there, and as 281 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: a result, the Packers end up keeping five inside linebackers, 282 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: McDuffie being that fifth guy to go along with with 283 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: the other veterans in front of him. Yeah, I was 284 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: able to play the whole game. Packers only had three 285 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: inside linebackers active for that, so they excuse me, rotated 286 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: way Ray Wilburn and Scoota Harrison the other spot. And 287 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,479 Speaker 1: here's Isaiah McDuffie every single play serving as a communicator, 288 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: being out there leading this defense. Nine tackles whatever, it 289 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: was a half sack. I mean, the guy wasn'tpactful. And 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: as Brian Goodutz was asked, because he's like, okay, you 291 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: kept five inside linebackers. We also have to look at 292 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: it as they only have four safeties right now, one 293 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: of which Vernon Scott is dealing with the hamstring issue. 294 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: The two positions when you talk about core four on 295 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: special teams that they usually get a lot of play 296 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: are inside backer in safety Isaia McDuffie is gonna play, 297 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: Tye Summers is gonna play, or in Burke's I thought 298 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: had a really nice camp, He's gonna play. Packers are 299 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: talking about rebuilding these special teams units. They have a 300 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: core there that I think they really can kind of 301 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: circle around. In addition to the fact that mcduffee's a 302 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: really solid long term prospect for that inside linebacker position, yeah, 303 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: no question about it. A couple of other thoughts, uh, 304 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: the undrafted rookie streak that that we talked about a lot. 305 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: Jack heflin the defensive Lineman out of Iowa, from northern 306 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: Illinois to Iowa now to green Bay ends up making 307 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: the roster. And then, with regard to that wide receiver 308 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: competition that we spent so much time talking about, the 309 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: last wide receiver standing so to speak, uh earning the 310 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: number six spot Malik Taylor, with three of the other 311 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers that he beat out being brought back onto 312 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: the practice squad, that being e q st Brown, Juwan 313 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Winfrey and Chris Blair. Yeah, and Devin funchis who I 314 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of people had almost sharpied in for 315 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: a roster spot at the beginning of camp. He ends 316 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: up not being there. This is why I love the preseason, Mike, 317 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: and this is why, while I agree you don't need 318 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: four preseason games, you may not even need three. Malik 319 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: Taylor is the reason why you need preseason games because 320 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: I think that this is just a training camp competition. 321 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot harder for him to make 322 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the roster. But with Green Bay sitting there four veterans 323 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: during this entire preseason, Malik Taylor played a lot of football, 324 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: maybe more than anybody on the Packers offense this offseason. 325 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: When you factor in the fact he was also at 326 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: the offseason program O t a S Mini Camp. This 327 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: is a guy I think a lot of people sort 328 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: of quote unquote left for dead and in this this 329 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, this really tight, hotly contested receiver competition, and 330 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: he comes out right out of the gate fourteen catches, 331 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: eighty five yards, leads the NFL in the preseason and receptions. 332 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: This is a really impressive young athlete. And as Matt 333 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Lafleur said on Wednesday, that talent has always been there, 334 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: but you're starting to see him bring some of those 335 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: other things to the table. And then obviously the cherry 336 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: on top is the fact that he also can contribute 337 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: on special teams. Yeah, and how can you not like Jack? 338 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Heflin stories ods a young man profits town, Prophetstown, Illinois. Uh, 339 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: small town. He's uh, you know he he even said 340 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: he knows he's got a lot of people following him, 341 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people counting on him. He's you know, 342 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: he but you know, jokingly, it's like, you know, he 343 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: he wants to he wants to make a name himself, 344 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: making name for his town. I mean, all all that 345 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and uh, and here he is that 346 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Packers have the four veterans on the 347 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: defensive line in front of him, with Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Kingsley, 348 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: Kiki Tyler Lancaster. They spend a fifth round pick on t. J. 349 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: Slaton out of Florida, who was also impressive during camp 350 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: and the preseason games. So there's there's five defensive linemen 351 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: in here. Jack Heflin ends up carving out a six 352 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: spot at that at that position for for him to 353 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: stick and and just uh, you know, if you haven't seen, 354 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: he's now done two press conferences in the media auditory 355 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and both of those videos are posted on packers dot 356 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: com from within the last week to ten days. So 357 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen um the interviews that have been 358 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: done with Jack heffln, you gotta go check him out. 359 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: This is h He's he's a fun young man to 360 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: talk to. He's a fun young man to talk to. 361 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: He's amazing to listen to. But actually the most underrated 362 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: thing about him, I love nonverbal communication, Like I just 363 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: I live forward. It's something that's one of my big 364 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: things I sort of majored in. If you ever don't 365 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: just listen to what he says, watch his press conferences, 366 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: because to me, it looks like the mayor of a 367 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: small town, like going up on the podium just kind 368 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: of holding court. I mean, he looks so comfortable. He 369 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: has kind of a posture there that he's just but 370 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's kind of a heart 371 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: on your sleeve. It is thing. It's just it's it's 372 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: it's it's endearing, incredible, it's incredible to hear him listen, 373 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: it's incredible to hear him talk about his story. Because yes, 374 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: there's been undrafted players year after year that I've come 375 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: through here and have had success. And some of them 376 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: are like Allen Lazard who just for whatever reason got 377 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: overlooked by NFL scouts even though he was incredibly productive 378 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: at Iowa State, or Chris Barnes. Just people just miss 379 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: on these guys. Jack Heflin, you almost get the feeling 380 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: that nobody was really looking for it, you know, coming 381 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: out of profits town, and the fact that he didn't 382 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: have any d one scholarship offers, and the fact that 383 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: he didn't build a chip on his shoulder because of it, 384 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: it just made him work harder and out of all 385 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: the things he said, in addition to the fact mentioning 386 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: that when Jerry Montgomery called him and woke him up 387 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: to tell him he had made the roster, saying that 388 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: that was the best day of his life. You couldn't. Also, 389 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: you talked about tugging at the heartstrings a little bit, 390 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: the story that he told of calling his mom Judy 391 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: to tell her, hey, I had made the roster. And 392 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: if you remember the first presser he did with the media, 393 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, he was saying, I used to tell her 394 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to play at Iowa and She's like, okay, Yeah, 395 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: he went and played at freaking Iowa and now he's 396 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Well, and then and then 397 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: his his season at Iowa is shortened by COVID And 398 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: then didn't the Hawk guys end up losing their bowl game? 399 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: Wasn't wasn't their bowl game? I mean you talk about 400 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: trying to get noticed and get film out there for 401 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: scouts and everything, all kinds of things working against this 402 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: young man. And now here he is on the Packers 403 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: roster for week one of the season. Yeah, and you 404 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: gotta feel good about it. And again, Mike, it's not 405 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: a position where there's a lot of special teams, you know, 406 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: incorporated with defensive line. God, he had to earn it. 407 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: He he had to earn it at his at his position. 408 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: He didn't really have a whole lot of other chances. 409 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: And for Green Bay, I think this is great though, 410 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: because not only do you get another developmental defensive lineman 411 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: in the system, Tyler Lancaster is working through the elbow injury. 412 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: T J. Slayton is an incredible talent, but obviously still 413 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: kind of wrong. Jerry Montgomery has talked about that, you 414 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: really get the feeling with heflin. This is a guy 415 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: that they're kind of we're looking for last year dude 416 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: that can go in there and play a dozen snaps 417 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: rotationally if you need him to to be able to 418 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: give some of those other guys a breather. Yeah, one 419 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: other thing we need to touch on before we sign 420 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: off for today, west the Packers Week one game against 421 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints has been moved to Jacksonville, Florida. Obviously, 422 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers and hopes and everything else going out 423 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: to all the folks down there in New Orleans and 424 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: the Louisiana area dealing with the the aftermath of Hurricane Ida. 425 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: But one of the one of the results of that 426 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: from a football perspective is Jacksonville. The Jacksonville Jaguars Stadium 427 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: will be hosting the Packers in the Saints kind of 428 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: a trade off here of your trading the noise of 429 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: the Superdome for the heat of Jacksonville. The biggest difference though, 430 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: in terms of calling it a trade is that the 431 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: noise is a one sided thing that's only for the 432 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: visiting team. The heat is a two sided thing, though 433 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: the Saints will be able to pick the sideline that's 434 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: more in the shade, you know, for the for the 435 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: bulk of of the first half there with a late 436 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: afternoon kickoff. But that being said, it is the heat 437 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: down there in Florida will be something both teams have 438 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: to deal with on September twelve. Yeah, I don't think 439 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be crying about not having to travel down 440 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: to that game. I think I'll be okay covering that 441 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: one from lambeau Field from Afar, remember that sixteen openers. 442 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. We're down there. We're down there 443 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: doing our pregame like social media live hits and stuff 444 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: like that, and we're you know, we're dressed up light, 445 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: dressed up all nice like we are when when we 446 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: go on the road with the team and oh my goodness, 447 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: like it wasn't even New Eastern Time yet and we 448 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: were sweating bullets out there. I just remember walking out 449 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: there and locking eyes with j Roon Elliott and I'm like, 450 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: dar and it's too hot. It's too hot, and he 451 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: just laughed it off. But it's just it was, you know, 452 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: it was funny. T J. Slayton actually mentioned this earlier 453 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: during the training camp because he's from Florida. Obviously South Florida. 454 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: Somebody had asked them like, is this is it this 455 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: hot because they were complaining about hot It wasn't training camps. 456 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: This is hot in Florida, and Slate was like, yeah, yeah, 457 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot hotter than this. This isn't. This doesn't 458 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: compare to Florida. So I will say this the one 459 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: thing the point I made an Inboxes that both teams 460 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: are gonna have to contest with it. The Saints are 461 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a little easier They'll be able to where 462 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: their road whites. As you mentioned, they'll be able to 463 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: pick where their benches. But the bigger issue there is 464 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: that if you're playing this in New Orleans, the Superdomes, 465 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: the loudest venue that in whatever century link is called 466 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: now are the two loudest venues in the National Football 467 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: League for my money. So that was gonna be working 468 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: against the Packers. New Orleans was gonna have it on 469 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: their side. On offense, this is something both teams are 470 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to adjust to, and they have to adjust 471 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: to a quick So hydration is going to be a key, 472 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: cardio is going to be a key, and ultimately just 473 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: mental toughness being able to fight through those emotions. Because 474 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, this is the type of game 475 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: I thought would have been really fun to play on 476 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: a fast track. Uh, this will not be a fast track. Yeah, 477 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: and especially when it comes to the fourth quarter in 478 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: a season opener, when you're when you're not quite sure 479 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: how in shape all of these all these guys are. 480 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: It's it's going to be an interesting one for sure. 481 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: But we got a whole another week to to talk 482 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: about leading up to that. For now, we'll call it 483 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 484 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 485 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for 486 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: tuning in everybody, We'll see you next time.