WEBVTT - Will There Be a Conviction? with Reverend Mark Thompson 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.320 That's what's up. Family. It's your girl to mek A D. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.360 Mallory, and it's your boy, my son and general. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.280 And we are your host of street politicians, the place 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.960 where the streets and politics me. I'm celebrating my birthday. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.279 I'm just celebrating every day I've been out every day. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.079 I'm actually very tired. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.520 Yeah, you in these scraps out here, in these scraps, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:26.480 as you know. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.960 That I do not stay outside past a certain time 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.280 or past a certain amount of days, doing no social 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:35.839 stuff like. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.040 Work every day. Every day. I could go, go, go, 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.760 but this is here. Two steps no from the what 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.640 you go up to the left to the right. Can't 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:46.560 do it us so much. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.960 It ain't gonna work no more. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.000 I'm getting older. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.200 Let me just say I can feel it like I'm 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.200 really tired, Like I be falling asleep in the middle 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:58.320 of conversations. It's pretty bad. Like it's not it's actually 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.959 not healthy, Like I don't know, I need I need 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.440 a rest, So I'm a rest soon. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:08.280 But the soccer, dad mold is a lot for me. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.200 Man. These kids made soccer like ooh, they got games 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.679 that started seven and eight in the morning. And you 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.920 don't get back until like eight. This weekend was it 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.319 was crazy. Both of them had a bunch of games 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.720 and then Cameron had a game and then Keston had 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.560 a game on Sunday. Then we went to the carnival 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.440 all day and they want you to run around and 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:31.840 move around, and. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.679 My body was just like this ain't gonna work. Maybe 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:35.240 I hear you. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.280 We went to see Transformers, like we had a We 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:39.360 had a whole weekend. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:40.640 You know, it was. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.800 Me and my guys. We had a dope weekend and 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.360 you know it was a lot going on. But yesterday, 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.480 you know it was it was just it broke me down. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.360 Broke me down like a shot man. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.960 There's nothing wrong with that. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.280 That's a good breakdown when you just get a chance 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.480 to be with your family and kids keep you young. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:03.840 Kids keep you. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.440 Young, you know, because I tell you when I am 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.400 handling my granddaughter's you. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:08.840 Gotta be. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.760 You can't be slow like you gotta be catching things, grabbing, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:15.840 so it keeps you young. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:17.120 Hence the reason why. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.119 I have to get my rest because I usually get 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:21.600 me a nap. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.560 Yeah, and I. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.399 Haven't been having thats and I need one. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.560 Actually, I took a nap between so the Tony's happened 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.960 last night, and you know that the play that I 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.440 invested in along with Candy Burris and my good girlfriend 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.840 Lushawan Thompson and our friend lu Shan, we made it 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.400 all the way to being nominated for a Tony Tony, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.800 but we didn't win. And so last night there was celebration, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.360 dinner and parties and whatever because the mere fact that 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.280 we made it all the way to the nomination is. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.800 A big thing. Another black play one in the category. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.360 So at the end of the day, I feel like 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.679 a win for black people is always a win for 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.600 all of us. Of course we wanted to win, but 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.520 still black people did win in the category, so that's good. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.160 But in between the dinner and the other stuff everything 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.760 that was going on, I went to sleep because I 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.239 needed a break to even get to even I didn't 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.680 even see the part of the Tony's when we didn't win, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.280 because I was just waking up to try to get 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.320 to the event. Like I just it's bad. That's it's bad. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.040 It's pretty bad. A good thing that did happen over 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.800 the same this weekend as well is that the Randy 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:42.400 Cox matter settled in Connecticut, So if folks people who 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.280 are you don't follow us, know that Until Freedom was 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.800 one of the organizations on the ground in Connecticut at 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:54.640 the very beginning when Randy Cox was paralyzed by police 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.280 where they gave him a rough ride. And shout out 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.320 to our brother Scott x Asdale, who is the state 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.800 conference leader in Connecticut of the NAACP, but he's also 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.600 one of the national board members of the NAACP, and 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:14.160 he's over the social justice work nationally for the NAACP, 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.039 and so he called us immediately upon what happened to 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:18.799 Randy Cox. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.480 He also got attorney Ben Crump's to take on the case. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.560 They have been in addition to working on getting charges 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.919 for the police officers, they also, of course, as you 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.840 know has been protocol, have filed a or had filed 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.480 a civil suit against the city and the police and everybody, 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.400 and its settled for forty five million dollars, which is 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:46.040 the largest settlement since George Floyd and obviously before that 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.799 for any black person who has been harmed by police 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:51.800 and a person. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.800 Who is not dead. Brandy Cox is alive. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.480 I'm paralyzed unfortunately, and you know, forty five million dollars 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.919 sounds like a whole lot of money, and and in fact, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.200 it is a lot of money. It is certainly again 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:11.480 the largest settlement for any person that has been abused 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.920 by police and their rights have been violated by police officers. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.200 And so that's a good thing. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.359 However, when you think about someone who is paralyzed with 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.520 a number of physical issues, I know, you know, he 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.039 was suffering with bed sores. Even though he was in 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.400 a great facility and he was turning him and all 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.280 of that, still his body had sores, you know, his 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.320 he was you know, of course he has a lot 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.359 of physical challenges. He needs a lot of equipment. He 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.120 has to be able to live in environments that allow 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.119 for all the things, the services or whatever. So forty 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.960 five million dollars after you finished paying your lawyers and 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:48.200 you do. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.440 It all, so basically his thing really just goes to 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:52.320 his medical. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.719 Expense, right exactly, because after you. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.240 Yeah, there's no benefit from them if you can't even 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.640 if you can't move from your next down, Like what 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.960 do you think forty five million dollars really does? Would 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.360 just make sure that that he you know. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.520 He just comfortable, comfortable, and he also has his mother, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:12.400 you know who. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.280 His mother is just a regular lady. Like you know, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.599 she's just this. You know, when we talk. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.000 About this all the time, these things happen to people 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.560 that just regular kit we'll just regular everyday people out 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:26.839 here trying to survive. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.159 You know, she's not a woman of great wealth. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.159 She's a regular woman just trying to make it from 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.960 day to day. And now she has a responsibility. And 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.479 by the way, she's also sickly, she has her own 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.240 health concerns. We know her, sweet sweet lady, and to 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.720 see her have to now take care of him forty 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.360 five million dollars, which is not forty five million because 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.120 once you again deal with all the things, you got 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.599 to pay in the fees, and then you got to 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.960 move because you need to live somewhere that you can 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:04.479 like first of all, making your home handicap accessible, it's 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:13.200 not It's very difficult. It's a lot corners and curved turning, positioning, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.240 medical equipment. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:16.760 It is not easy. 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.240 So to your point, forty five million dollars, while it 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.560 is definitely still the largest settlement that we have ever 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:29.880 seen for a person violated by the police yet and 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.280 still it is. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:31.520 Not a. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.560 Hundred hundred two hundred million. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.440 You make a lifetime. This is a lifetime of medical 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.280 medical you know how medical course is. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.480 And he's young, sixty seventy. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:47.880 This is a young man, and he has to have 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:52.000 a lifetime a medical cost. So at some point they're 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.040 going to have to utilize that money. Try to invest 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.000 in something that continues to make money, because that right there, O, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.880 right now, just off his medical you know alone, is 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.080 if he's able to live a long life, you know, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.480 just just the average life that the individual lives. 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:11.720 So that mother, his mother maybe seven sixty nine seventy, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.240 like these people have years to live. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.239 Yes, yes, that's. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.680 That's where we stand now. And of course he needs 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.840 medical kids twenty four hours a day. Still, Oh, I 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.080 was gonna say before you say that. And you know, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.880 the more money you have, the less help you get 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:29.640 from the government. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.240 So that's a. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:30.960 Whole other thing. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.080 You're paying for everything on your own because the more 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:38.080 money you like, if you have medicaid. The best insurance 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.480 I had was Medicaid. I'm not even gonna lie. It 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.760 was good insurance when I had Medicaid. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.120 Then I got a job, got myself together, moved on. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.960 No more Medicaid. Insurance goes down. 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.800 From there, so you have to be super poor, and 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.800 they're trying to change that. The Republicans want that to end. Okay, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.040 but there was a time when as far as you are, 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.200 you could have good insurance. Now you you might not 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:08.920 even get it at that point. So we just end 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.920 up the messed up. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.640 Time to start Ugdale Man for doing leading to charge, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.840 you know, and being vocal on the local grassroots side 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.200 of d Randy Cox you know situation, you know, and 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.440 Ben Crump once again for doing what he does. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.439 You know, I tell people all the time, I don't 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.560 know what y'all think Crump does. You know. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.120 Crump is not prosecuted. He can't send nobody to jail, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.600 but he when he goes in there, he wants to 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.120 make sure that you paid for what you did wrong 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.839 to anybody exactly. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.600 He's pretty much the best at that. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.240 Like he said, you're gonna make it so expensive that 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.920 you can't even you don't even want the police departments 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.360 in the city can't even manage the amount. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.000 Of money that it costs you to pay for. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.800 Injustice and that and that, and that's a part of 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.040 his own activism. I'm gonna find a way to bring 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.720 as much attention into these situations so that when you 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.200 have to settle, the number is so high you can't 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.560 even afford it. We're just going to start bankrupting police 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.760 departments until we can get courts to actually give us justice. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.000 So everybody's fighting on different levels. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.640 Funny thing that happened last night. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.840 So you know that the writers in Hollywood, all the 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.400 writers in Hollywood have been on strike for over all months. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.599 So they're striking for all types of all types of rights. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:34.200 They want sort of an overhaul to the ways in 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.439 which writers are not respected in this moment, right, So, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.320 and people who don't know about this, you should really 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.720 because it's actually something. It's really powerful to see how 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:50.080 writers from so many different backgrounds, writers from all different hues. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.080 It's not just black folks because you know, usually it 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.080 be the blacks and the browns getting together to strike 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.440 about something. But there's white people, there's black people, there's 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.160 all types of writers coming together to say, nah, the 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.840 system has to check. Writers have to be respected, they 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.079 have to be paid different, they need benefits, they need 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.640 all the things that they're supposed to have. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.319 So that's been going on. So because they did not. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.400 Have because the writers are on strike, there was no 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.360 real script for the Tonies. Last night, speaking of the Ties, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.240 there was no script for the Tonys, and so we 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.360 were getting up there saying whatever they wanted to say, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:29.960 and one person stood up and called DeSantis Governor DeSantis 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.679 the Grand Wizard of Florida. Now that is so listen 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.040 as true as can be. But beyond it being true, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.360 it is something you never see happen on daytime TV, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.760 prime time. So I'm just saying, I'm I'm very happy that. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.520 That voices have to be heard. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:50.760 Man. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.920 You got to call a spade a spade, man, because. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.520 If the writers have been there, it would have probably 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.360 been many white writers that would have been on this show, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.760 and they would have censored it. So, you know, not 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.800 to say that I hate this that they have to strike, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.640 but it's good that if when they were striking, people 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.880 just get this talk real and say whatever they want. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.560 That's really hard to strike too. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.680 That's part of the strike. That's definitely part of the stripe. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:14.800 Man. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.839 We're going to speak truth to power in this tract. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.400 That's right. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.720 Since we all strike, Hey, we're gonna just say whatever 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.400 we want to say. And then what in the hell, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:36.000 speaking of Governor Di's answers. Is Teddy Riley talking about like, bruh, 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:36.920 my thing? 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.240 Is this right? 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.280 He's been defending Trump because he says that Trump did 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.640 something I think part of his cousin or did something 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.000 for his family and pride. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.200 His brother. Now I didn't even. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.520 Know what he did, but I know he was saying, oh, well, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.360 we kind of owe it to him because he did 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.560 something for my family. Why don't we understand that just 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.679 because somebody does something for you, it does not mean 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.640 that you owe them your ass like you're dumb for 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.480 that period. You don't owe them your whole ass just 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.079 because they did something for you. You can still say, hey, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.520 I pre first of all. First of all, if that 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.880 is what is required for some favors, you might not 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.680 need that favor. And I'm not saying and I know 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.600 that if he was here, he would say, Oh, it's 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.440 easy for you to say that I was the favor 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.360 is in trade for my brother's freedom. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.280 Respect that I get it. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.559 But if a person therefore tells you that because or 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.720 if you feel that because you your brother was free, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:45.400 you now have the obligation to support a racist, fascist, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.640 freaking man who we just we just have been talking 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.640 about the last few weeks or the last few years, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.280 but specifically in the last few days. Actually how dangerous 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.720 this man is. And you here like just be Why 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:07.280 don't people know how to just be? 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.800 Who asked him to say something? 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.720 I'm telling you that's that's what social media does. You know, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.000 we've all been victim. It makes you speak when you 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.640 don't need to speak, right, It makes you say shit 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.320 that everybody should know, Like if you support Trump, support Trump, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.640 you know, but I think I think in the space 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.960 that you are Teddy Riley, just just understanding where you are, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.160 what your demographic is, what your fan base is. You know, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.840 I think you have to be very much more strategic 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.320 and articulate at the way that you support somebody, Right, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:48.120 because you support somebody like Trump, because he freed your 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.880 your brother, you have to you can say that. You 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.120 can say, you know, what I appreciate with President Trump 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.440 is then for my brother there, and you know he 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.240 has done good things. I don't agree with this. I 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.160 don't agree with that. I don't agree with this. I 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.840 can see why this is a problem. But you know 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.000 the fact that I will always be grateful for the 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.400 fact that he was the personal part of my brother 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.760 now this right here, I can't go, sir, I understand 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.840 why everyone else is mad, you know. And and when 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.800 you do stuff like that, people can't do anything but say, okay, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.760 I can I can respect that. But when you just 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.080 start saying, yo, I support him because he did this, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.240 and he taught me how to be a free man. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.960 And what you're talking about the free man. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.040 That man got more charges than the pooky. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.280 But what are you talking about? Like what did he 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:33.600 taught you? 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.360 He taught you how to just say fuck fuck you know, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.440 common sense and you know, fuck the law and I'm 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.160 just gonna do things my way. And like, I don't 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.440 understand what Teddy is trying to, you know, prove or 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.280 try to say. But I think it landed wrong. This 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:50.960 one didn't. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:51.680 Land properly, you know. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.680 So here's the thing when you don't know what you're 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.160 talking about and you get to talk and people can 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.400 click quickly tell and so in order to to do 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:05.480 what you just suggested, which is to say, hey, I 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.320 I forgot to call him sexist, I said racist fascists. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:13.560 I needed to say sexist, And they excuse me. When 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.400 when you. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:23.240 Are not well informed, right, you're unable to say I 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.240 appreciate Trump for what he's done. But I also see 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.600 an issue with x y Z because you don't even 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.240 know what x y Z is. Because you're not even 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.800 paying attention to what's going on. You can't be because 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:38.240 I have to believe Teddy Riley as an artist and 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.520 and and an and a and a. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.480 Musical genius that we know and respect. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:46.920 I have to believe that you have not been paying 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.720 attention to the political landscape in America. For you, I 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.880 would not even say right that I just I support Trump. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.720 I mean of Joe Biden one hundred percent. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.880 I wouldn't even say that. No way would I say. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.360 And nobody has ever seen And that's what pisses me 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.400 off because people say, oh, you said, well, I said, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.320 just show me the place where I said vote for 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.119 Tell me showed me the one time that you heard 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:14.000 those words ever in ever come out my mind. There 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.080 has never been a time that I told you go 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.560 vote for Biden. Nobody can ever put that in my mind. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:21.720 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.080 So I understand you know the reality of what's going on, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.199 But oh, so what I was want to say, You know, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.719 it seems to me it's very disheartening, right that us 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.720 as black people that it's like, you give us this 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.560 one crumb and we stop and we never forget that crumb, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.280 and we just overlook the fact that the master them 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:43.240 beat us and do all. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:43.600 Type of shit. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.640 It's like, I have I hear this same sentiment, Well, 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:48.280 Trump let niggas go home. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:49.960 I know niggas that went home. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:51.960 And it's like when you look at the amount of 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.360 people that Trump let go home, you know, and they're vocal. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.439 Somehow their voices get vocal, dude, the black people that 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.119 they let go home, the voice is vocal. And when 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:08.440 you look at historically, you know, the Obama administration did 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:13.159 more part in this historically than probably the last ten administrations. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.880 And you never hear that talked about. You know, those 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.679 are those things are never like literally, he had the 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:23.000 side over one thousand people to be free because the 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.760 Republicans refused to pass the original lord that he wanted 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.960 to make the drug. The people who are the same 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.520 people that Trump let about five thousand of them go home. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.440 Originally he was trying to. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.600 Make it retroactive, so everybody with that charge would have 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.679 been free immediate, you know. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.960 And the Republicans blocked. These are the things that's not said. 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.639 So when we have those conversations where, oh, and Trump 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.800 gave us stimulus, you know, nobody get like this is 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.399 the ship that that when Trump says woe for me, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.399 you know, my African Americans, what do you have to lose? 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.640 You know, shit like that is like somebody throwing us pennies, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.240 and we just say, look, he gave us this, you know, 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.680 and it really is disheartened. But you I understand because 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.520 you're talking about people who really haven't had anything. You know, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.480 You're talking about our communities who really have been disheveled 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.480 and dealing with a lot. So you know, they they 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.240 played this game all the time, and we fall for it, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.320 and I hate hearing it. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.639 What I would say is that because you mentioned but 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.920 you kind of like spent past it that President Obama 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:37.160 he was trying to pass legislation that would allow multiple 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.800 people to be freed at one time, and they slowed 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.639 down his progress by forcing him to have to go 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.440 and free each person individually, which. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.120 If they didn't slow down the process, they blocked the process. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.160 Well that's what I'm saying. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.720 They ain't blocked that process. So what happened is since. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.959 They wouldn't block, they wouldn't pass the legislation because they 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.520 gutted it. And that's how they came up with this 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.400 first step, because they completely gutted Obama's bill that would 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.240 have retroactively freed all non violence. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:08.320 Drug offenders. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.840 So they gutted it and they came up with this 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.840 first act that only freed probably like three percent of 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.440 what he was trying to let go. But and in 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.239 his last days, since he knew they wasn't doing it, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.720 he started signing over one thousand partans to release people. 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:27.560 And because he figured before that that they. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.720 Would do it, you know, he wasn't. 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.240 Now it's like three or four days and ten days 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.800 before we go, and you got to physically sign nose. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.000 Well, it wasn't a physical signing thing though it wasn't. 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:43.200 It's that in order to get each individual person freed, 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.800 there's a court process. So that's what that's what I 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.560 meant when I said slowed it down. There's a court 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.359 process for each person. There's all types of briefs that 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.880 have to be fouled, there's lawyers that have to go 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.400 in and do all of this work within the courts 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.840 and so they wouldn't allow out him to pass legislation 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.760 that would make it happen easily or. 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.680 Not so much easily. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.760 Well yeah, I mean retroactively, yes, But I'm saying it 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.600 would have it would have been like a slate of 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:18.000 individuals versus him having to have his administration with all 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.399 the other things they're working on, focus on individual people. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.719 And so with that being said, these folks are very 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.600 strategic about what they do. And I think that, yes, 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.520 you know when you talked about how Trump said, you know, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.520 the black people have nothing to lose, and so did 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.840 President Biden say, if you black, you're. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:39.960 Not black, if you don't vote for me. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.959 I mean, these these these people say some of the 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.719 dumbest shit you ever want to hear. And it's all. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.800 It all is rooted in racism. All of it is 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.399 rooted in racism. And I'm saying that a person like 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.720 Teddy Riley needs to have people around him to help 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:56.560 him be informed. 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.640 And he need not feel that he. 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:04.080 All Donald Trump an allegiance against his own people. 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:06.960 That he need not feel that he. 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:12.000 Owes Donald Trump an allegiance against American citizens. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.639 I mean, you need not feel that you can. 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.560 Still say I appreciate this thing you did over here, 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.919 and I respect it, but you need not go and 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.080 sell your whole body in order to get that. It's 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.359 like a man gives me a nice bag or a 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.119 nice gift, or even does something life changing for me. 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.960 You can't screw me every time you come over here, though, 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.760 Like what they say the song, the song say what have. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:36.920 You done for me lately? 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.760 Okay, because you might have did that thing over there, 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.440 but then you're doing these other things over here. That's 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:46.080 not okay. And we just don't have to praise racist 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.280 white people. We just don't have to do it no 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:53.959 matter because guess what pardoning your brother, pardoning all our people, 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.360 free our people, free our people. Not saying that everything 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.440 our people have done is right or whatever, but standing 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.400 in the way the systems have been set up in 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:05.240 this country and the ways in which they can find 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:10.720 to criminalize us and not criminalize themselves, that is unjust 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.760 so free our people. I'm saying that, right, And so therefore, 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.080 if you do pardon somebody, damn it, you were supposed to. 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:19.320 So now there we go. 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.040 So you didn't do shit that was so so big 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.880 and cool, It's good. We grateful for Topeka and others. 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:28.600 We know that that was the right thing to do, 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.720 but it was the right thing to do. So just 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:32.600 because you did the right thing does not mean that 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.960 you have to get praised in the bullshit that you're. 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.919 Also doing at the same time. So that was my 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:40.680 thought of the day. 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.720 My thought of the day is to Teddy Riley, you 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.560 do not owe Donald Trump your whole ass just because 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.920 he pardoned your brother. He did what he was supposed 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.840 to do. He was the president, and obviously they found 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:57.000 reason to do so. Now you still at this time 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.679 have the right to call a spade a spade and 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.959 call lot of men who is a racist, sexist fascist 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.879 who wants to take our country to a place where 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.040 black people will not be free. So whatever he tells you, 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.240 or whatever you think you learn about being a free 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:17.280 black man, if you allow Donald Trump to be president 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.840 of this country, I promise you they have done enough 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:24.480 to unravel, to shift, to change, to destroy the little 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.440 bit of progress that our people have made. And if 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.440 you allow even for one moment that man to become 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.840 president of this country again, you're gonna see some shit. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.159 Because the DeSantis is the governor DeSantis and all of 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:41.000 these folks. They were emboldened due to President Trump's presidency. 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:45.320 So don't sell your whole ass for one favor that 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.240 was done to your personal family, because there is a 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:53.359 family of millions and millions more that also deserve for 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:54.600 you to stand up for them. 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.080 Not the whole ass, toy, not the whole thing. 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.479 So now it's time for us to go to our guests. 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.720 I'm excited to have this conversation because we keep calling 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:03.600 me asking me about Trump. I'm like, shit, I don't know, 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.280 Like I'm trying to figure it out, just like you. I 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.640 just want to ask, is Trump going to jail? So 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.040 our next guest is going to come on and help 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:16.080 us break down what's happening. Thirty seven indictment charges. That's 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:20.719 a lot of charges. That's a lot of charges. Perhaps 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:29.840 there was a real investigation going. So our guest today 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:34.760 is somebody who is absolutely no stranger to street politicians. 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:40.200 We like to call him our smart, educated, edumaicated knowledge 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.320 of well bull know it all of all about all 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.800 things politics of bull movement. 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.879 Everything is Reverend Mark Thompson. 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.360 He's also our friend and brother, and we invited you 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:57.760 on today, Reverend Thompson, to help us unpack what is 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:03.520 happening with the Trump indictments and the question that I 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.000 have to get us kicked off is is Trump going 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.960 to jail? That's what I want to know. Thank you 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:10.760 for being on with us. 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.639 Mark Thompson, well, thank you for having me, and good 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.480 as always to be with you and Mice. 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.600 Hey brother, how you doing King? 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.080 I'm good man, you know, to be first of all, 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.520 full disclosure. Obviously I'm not an attorney, but most people aren't, 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:27.960 so I think it's good to hear from us lay 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.880 people about what this looks like and what this means. 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.600 And first of all, I think it's important as much 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.480 as the three of us talk about injustices and the 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.000 criminal injustice system. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:38.840 I mean, for a. 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.600 Change, we see a white man being held accountable for 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.159 crimes that he actually committed, when everyday black folk are 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.800 held accountable for crimes that they don't commit or that 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.399 they don't have legal representation to get them out of. 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.360 And I think they've been statistics to. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.200 Show that most of us who are locked up don't 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.000 even see the inside of a courtroom in terms of 0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:01.879 a trial. We're pushed into a please situation. And answer 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.679 to your question, I think it's going to be very, 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:09.000 very difficult to keep Donald Trump out of jail because 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.360 of the magnitude of what this is and for those 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:13.639 who may not really understand that. 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.520 On the one hand, it. 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:19.159 Looks like, well, he stole some boxes, some documents, but 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.199 you have to know what the documents mean. This is 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:29.440 classified information about weapons systems the Department of Defense plans 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:35.360 to invade or surveil other countries, and it also contains 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:42.680 information about informants and what have you, agents and the CIA. 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.360 Now New York Times did a story. 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:51.720 Recently on CIA agents being targeted, being outed. That's a 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.440 very serious crime when you're the commander in chief and 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.240 you take that oath of office. If you are causing 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:03.919 harm to people in the CIA who are spies and 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.200 exposing them, that puts them in their families at risk. 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.720 And it appears Donald Trump has put those individuals risks 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.080 at risks. We don't know for certain yet whether he's 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.359 caused the death of anyone, and we probably won't know 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.960 because that information is still classified. But if in fact 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.840 he's caused death and harm to individuals who are unemployed 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.760 the United States government, if he's revealed secrets, and by 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:30.120 the way, when you reveal secrets about United States agents, 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.800 you often also are also are revealing secrets abouts and 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:39.440 agents in other countries who are United States allies. Also 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.120 want to be clear, you know, to borrow page from Malcolm, 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.800 you know, when people would say our astronauts are not 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.440 our astronauts, these aren't our agents. We as black folks, 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:54.680 really don't have any business but to do anything but 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.600 criticize US foreign policy and US espionage has never been 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.040 good for US, and it's never been good good for 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.240 black people, if not people of color throughout the world. 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.480 But in this business of empire in which he was 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:08.440 their employee. 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.280 You know, if we're the president, we are an employee 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:13.040 of the empire. 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.520 And when you have a job and you take an 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.400 oath on that job and you do things that bring 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.320 harm to your employee, your company, that institution, which in 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.600 this case happens to be the United States government, you 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.560 can go down thirty seven counts. 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.040 I don't know anybody in any. 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:32.440 Category lastly, that can have thirty seven charges filed against them, 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.120 thirty seven felonies federal charges and escape being convicted of 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.800 any I just don't you know, as you know, nice 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.479 even when folks have to take plea deal. They get 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.680 a bunch charges, but they got to plead something's gonna happen. 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:46.600 That's part of the arrangement. 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:47.040 You got it. 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.640 And I don't really know if he's eligible for a 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.040 plea deal. He's probably too proud to do it. But 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.320 I think it's gonna be very, very difficult for an 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:54.960 argument to be made to keep him out jail. 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:56.280 Wow. 0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.920 So he so basically some of the information he has 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.640 exposes the CIA's snitches, the ones they got. 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:06.960 Wow. 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.600 So man, well, well put it in another way, he's 0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.320 he's he's snitching. 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.720 Now we don't exposed. So they just might have been 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:17.080 just undercover. 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.840 Undercover, and that's the CIA's that's their job. They spy organization. 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.240 So throughout the world, the different intelligence agencies, the most 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.080 notorious being the the CI, A, British m I six 0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.280 that's James Bond, folks, that's who he works for, UH 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.680 and obviously Israel's Massade. Those are three of the most 0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.160 powerful espionage agencies in the world, and there are others 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.479 that are significant Pakistan, Canada, UH and And that's the 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:50.400 business of Empire. They spy, they surveil, they spy on countries, 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.280 that they consider enemies and they spy on each other. 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.760 All right, That's that's the intrigue of politics in the world, right, 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:03.160 And so Trump has placed that whole apparatus in jeopardy. 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:04.520 It is, it is reckless. 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.560 And ultimately, if you're the president today, if you're Joe Biden, 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.920 then your allies are probably call and saying, what's up? 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.480 How can we trust you? Is our information safe with you? 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.200 Because you have spies of work together. If there's if 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:21.200 there's a US spy or a US project or initiative 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:25.080 that's working with the British government or the Israeli government, 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.840 and that's in those boxes, and it gets exposed. And 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.440 what is he doing? He takes the boxes, y'all. It's 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.960 it's if if it weren't funny, it'd be kind of 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:38.680 saying he's he's real messy. He takes boxes, packs them himself. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:44.400 He packs these boxes of classified documents himself, stores them 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.280 on the stage in mar Alago. Then when the heat 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.280 comes he puts them in the bathroom in Marlago. I 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.440 mean boxes on boxes, and when people come back, he 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.120 shows off, Look, I have a box. 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:55.800 This is a document. I'm not supposed show you a 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:56.440 secret document. 0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.200 It's like a kid showing off something to make himself 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.840 seemed popular, very reckless, very childish. 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.320 But you brought up Joe Biden and President Biden, and 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.200 so he had documents as well, Right, that was something 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.720 that was found recently that he also had document documents. 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.120 What's the difference in the two. 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.440 Well, to this point, Joe Biden hasn't been indicted. 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.720 Second of all, he reported immediately had taken these documents 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.760 by mistake. Also, by the way, Mike Pence as well, 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.800 Mike Pence found documents on his person, disclosed them, turn 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.600 them in. So apparently it's not an impossibility that someone 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.720 could take something home that they later learned they should 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.200 not have taken home. And both those instances with Biden 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:45.440 and Pence, those documents were disclosed and they're under if 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.960 they're not still on investigation. Investigation was closed and it 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.720 has not resulted in a special council or a grand jury. 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.520 And then we're not talking about boxes either. I mean, 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.280 if you look at the indictment, folks, Trump probably had 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.560 at least twenty twenty five boxes doctor documents. I mean 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.080 huge boxes are going to moving truck, right, And I think. 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.480 With President Biden when he was asked to return the 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.520 documents or whatever happened, they immediately turned them over. It 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.040 wasn't like this process that they had to go through 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.960 of literally breaking into mar Lago right go get through, and. 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.080 He didn't obstruct justice. One of the charges of obstruction 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:23.640 of justice, which is a very serious charge. 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:24.200 Trump lied. 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.720 He lied about the documents, lied about what he had 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.080 lied about where they came from. 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.680 He's incriminated himself several times. 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.920 With the back and forth stories about I could be classified, 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.880 but I can't, and I know I shouldn't have him, 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.800 but I'm able to do classify. If I say it's classified, 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.880 he's classified, but I know I'm really not supposed to 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.680 have it. I mean, he's he's just all over the place. 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.240 He has no legal representation, that's real. Two of his 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.320 lawyers have resigned since this. Nobody wants to represent him 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.440 because none of the lawyers want to go to jail. 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.200 They're scared of that. And that's what happens when you 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:53.200 represent Donald Trump. 0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.480 He has we all live in New York. 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.880 He has been able to skir the law all his 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.040 life in New York, get away with things. But I 0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.920 think he's finally met his match in this Special Council 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.720 and in this in this federal judicial system. 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.279 So so he's been indicted, So what's what is the 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.320 next stage do you have? They said any time for trial? 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.359 Like what is who's going to try it? 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:18.560 Like? 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:23.279 What is going on? Will find out what the timetable is. 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.520 It's supposed to be something called the Rocket Dock at 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:30.520 Rocket Docket in Florida, which is why the Special Council 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.480 chose to go to Florida for that. But the bad 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.319 part of out it about it is they ended up 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.960 with a Trump appointee as judge who's made some rulings 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.960 in the past favorable to Trump that even the Eleventh 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.839 Circuit which oversees her, criticized her for so. Not sure 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.399 how this is going to work out. She may try 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.759 to help him. I think it'll be difficult for her 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.440 to do. She has an oath as well. This is 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.279 a pretty this is not circumstantial case. It's pretty black white. 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.280 He we have the pictures of the boxes in Marlago, 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.520 so he can't say they weren't there, all right, so 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.640 he took him home. He has them, and in a 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.440 trial like this, that's really all you're trying. Does he 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.320 have him, does he not? Did he lie about having them? 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:14.240 They can prove all of that. She may have the power, 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.200 It's unclear yet. 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:17.359 She may have the. 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.080 Power to postpone the trial for a long time until 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.040 after to draw it out. And I'm sure whatever lawyers 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.960 he tricks into representing him to draw it out past 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.920 the twenty twenty four election, and if he can do that, 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.480 he can run again. I doubt he'll be re elected, 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.239 but he can't back. I think if it's Biden and 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:38.920 Trump head the head, it'll go down the same way 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:39.840 it did in twenty twenty. 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.680 We'll see, but he'll have this hang over his head. 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.760 If the trial goes forward and he's in deep trouble, 0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:49.960 deep doodoo, that just lessens his chances even more of 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:51.200 being elected president again. 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:56.120 If he was elected president, could he go to jail? 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.560 Can you send a sitting president to prison? 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:01.920 I believe so. 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.279 I think the you know different things about that, So 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:07.919 I was yeah. 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.840 My understanding is the only thing that would actually disqualify 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.480 him from serving would be if he was actually convicted 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:21.239 of sedition and insurrection in the January sixth matter. I'm 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.920 not clear as to whether or not if he's found 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:29.279 guilty of the Espionage Act, if he in fact is disqualified, 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.000 he ought to be. I mean, that's there's historical president 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.560 for that. You know, Bennett an Ord, bennettedt Onnod wasn't president. 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.920 But we say the name Benedict Arnold. That's the name. 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.840 It's always used when somebody is a turncoat or a snitch. 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.760 And and Donald Trump is right, is the first president 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.920 to be in that category. To make you asked earlier 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.799 whether this has happened before. I think the closest that 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.200 this has come before. 0:36:56.040 --> 0:37:01.960 Was when Richard Nixon. Well actually two instances. 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:07.000 Richard Nixon sabotaged the Paris Peace Accords that would. 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.840 Have ended the Vietnam War. 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:14.320 During Johnson's administration, right before the sixth state election. Wanted 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.960 to harm Johnson, so he sabotaged the peace talks it 0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.000 could have ended earlier, to draw out the war to 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:20.720 hurt Johnson. 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.840 Needless to say, Johnson not running. 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.040 The only other circumstances would have been when Ronald Reagan 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.719 and George H. W. Bush the Father negotiated with the 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.840 Ayatola to keep the hostages in Iran in nineteen eighty 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.319 so that Jimmy Carter could lose and they could win 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:36.760 the election. 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.240 So there's been that level of infirs. 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.000 They were prosecuted and they were never charged. They were 0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.279 never charged, and those are things that are that are 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:50.680 known about. There was no special counsel appointed, and some 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.719 of that is circumstantial. That's about places and people being 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.520 in different places at certain times. 0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.840 But this is hard body evidence, paperwork. 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.000 But but that brings me to my question mark, how 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.920 did we get the pictures? 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:08.400 How did that happen? 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:08.680 Right? 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:13.080 You talked about lawyers who have resigned, You've talked about, 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.080 you know, people who don't want to be implicated in 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.000 this because it's actually really serious. 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.640 I mean, I don't know the gentleman's name. 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.880 In fact, I think I could pull it up, but 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:27.120 it was it's one of these uh talking heads or 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.320 folks that they invite to be on Fox News channel 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.600 all the time that has defended Trump for everything anything 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:34.160 he does. 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.920 He's you know, Trump didn't do anything wrong. 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.360 And finally this weekend the man was on Fox News 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.480 and said these charges are pretty damning. Right, So it 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.400 seems like a lot of people are beginning to say, 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:48.480 there's no more. 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.279 We can't there's no more wiggle room here. 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:54.399 So the question that that makes me wonder, how did 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:58.400 these documents become? How did the pictures of the documents 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:02.640 and the video and all of the details of. 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.360 What he did and said, And. 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.200 Like you said, he was telling people, I'm not supposed 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:07.719 to have these doculas, but I have them, but I 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:08.480 could declassify. 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:10.560 How do we find all of this out? 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.360 Well, as we know, the Special Counsel's Office and the 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.160 FBI have been investigating this for over year. So they've 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.640 interviewed Trump, they've interviewed people down in mar A Lago. 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.879 They have been gathering evidence, and they took pictures of 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.839 the documents once they found them, once they realized where 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.920 they were, and so that's how we have them, and 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.439 that's what's in the charging document. We had not seen 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:36.840 those pictures before the indictment document was released and the 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.640 Special Council said, look, everybody, just look look at this. 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:40.680 We don't have a lot to say about it. You 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.120 can look at it for yourselves, read it for yourselves, 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.439 and see what this is really all about. So that's 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.920 how it came about. This has been going on for 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.000 some time. He prolonged it by not wanting to turn 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:59.480 documents over over time. He prolonged it by changing his story, 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.560 so many tis. All of that is laid out, and 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.400 people go look at it online. You can just literally 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.520 google the Trump indictment and see even some of the 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.040 things he was saying. He had somebody somebody's writing a 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.520 book and he says, come let me show you something. 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.560 I'm not supposed to show you this, it's a secret. 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:15.759 But look I got this document. This was planning for 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.759 water to go to war against Irhan. This is the 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.319 missile weapons system. We're trying to be just crazy. And 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.640 even the people who were doing it, like they were like, wait, minue, 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.600 maybe we shouldn't be looking this either, because they don't nobody. 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.799 You know, people don't want to be implicated. You know, 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.360 don't show me. I don't want to see that. But 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.399 he's flashing these documents of people just to impress them, 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:37.360 because that's just how immature he is. I think to 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.200 his credit, the Special Counsel and by the way, the 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:46.560 Council Jack Smith, he is a prosecutor in the International 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:52.080 Criminal Court, so he has a reputation of prosecuting world 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:53.320 leaders for crimes. 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:54.080 That's his thing. 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.799 So this is who was chosen by Merrit Garland to 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.680 prosecute this, and I don't know. I just don't know 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:03.800 how Trump gets. 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:03.880 Out of it. 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.320 It'll be it'll be drawn out. You mentioned, though, Tamika, 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.120 that people are now saying that. 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:09.440 He's in trouble. 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.719 Some are, but none of the Republican candidates are yet. 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:18.560 They are interestingly silent because they still don't want to 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:19.279 offend his base. 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:20.120 They want his voter. 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:25.400 So DeSantis that the day after DeSantis said Trump violated 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.759 the Constitution when he tried to order him to take 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.520 part in the insurrection, He's gonna kill Mike Pints. 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.080 It's gonna have him hung. The next day, when Trump's indicted, 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.520 he says that that's wrong. He's scared. DeSantis are scared. 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:43.719 Chris Christie came out throwing lefts and rights in his announcement, 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.840 but he's been silent too since they indictment. So so, 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.239 on the one hand, those are the candidates, but yeah, 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.080 other former officials, other. 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.200 Former Jonathan is who I'm talking. 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.800 I mean, people like that Bill Barr, even his Attorney General, 0:41:58.280 --> 0:41:58.960 John Bolton. 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:00.719 But you know sometimes. 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.600 People William Barr had something to say. 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.480 Yeah, they're all they've all said Trump is out of control. 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.600 But I also, in my experience people also say those 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.000 kinds of things because they may want to make sure 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.359 they're not implicated. And anybody who was an attorney worth 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:15.960 here's or her assault in the room with him while 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.040 he was doing that, would have said, hey, dude, you 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.839 are your own on this one. 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:19.719 I can't be a part of this. 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.840 That's that's what you say, right with when you be 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.120 with your friend, your friend is wild and crazy and 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.200 you with everything, you with the ships, and then they 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.800 get to a certain point like what's. 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.000 That movie we always laugh about Mice. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:39.720 American? I will leave you. 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.080 Killing cops that everybody know you police. 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:45.400 I'll give you another example. 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.719 Let's all all all of us here talking again, all 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.319 of us listen thing for a minute. Barack Obama's leaving 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.520 the White House and he calls some of us because 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.200 hey'll come over help me get some stuff put in 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.759 some boxes and take with me. Now, what does an 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.719 average person do. We might go over there and say 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.080 what can we take? We may we take some sheets, 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.839 some china, some paintings, even stuff that we can show 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:05.920 off to our friends. 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.040 Might we might have a few friends that might pass 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:09.000 buy some stuff they can. 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:16.640 Sell hot but what who would nobody here, nobody listening, 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.439 I'm sure would ever think, Hey, where the classified documents kept? 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:20.080 Why? 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:21.840 Because what are we gonna do with him? 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.000 What do you do with classified documents? 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.680 The only thing you can do is go to jail, 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.080 but all that might so the other thing you can 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.960 do is if you have a way to sell those. 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.360 The only way you know how to sell those is 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:37.280 if you are a professional spy. And what have people 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.600 always said about Donald Trump? That he is an agent 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.080 for the Russian government. So if somebody dropped a document 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.919 like that in any one of the three of our laps, Okay, 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.560 y'all go sell this. We won't even know who to call. 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.759 We don't know anybody who knows who to call. But 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.960 I'm person who would do who could do it would 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:55.279 be a spy. 0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.520 That's one of the That's the jail that they don't 0:43:58.520 --> 0:43:58.879 even going. 0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.759 To put you in jail, right, that's jail. 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:03.239 They can just hold you and say, look, we're just 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.640 gonna keep you here for a bus sixty years until 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:06.880 we figure out what you know. 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.120 Linda talks about that all the time. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.719 It's like guantanamobey or whatever or something where they just 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:17.080 hold you and you don't know what boson in those environments. 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:21.640 But you know, Mark, you talk about how he sounds 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:22.440 like a kid. 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.799 Because it's true, it's kind of like you're dealing with 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:28.680 a little child, right, Do you think that that is 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:34.040 something that will get him leniency in the final hour 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.719 that he didn't know how serious it was, or he 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:38.719 didn't take it seriously because he thought it was like 0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.200 a joke, you know, because it seems like they always 0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:46.600 find wiggle room for white men one and two. Trump 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.000 absolutely seems to just get away with whatever he wants 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:50.319 to do. 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.400 So where do you see holes possibly? 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:55.800 I think in this judge. 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.840 I think that's the biggest concern right now now the 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.319 Special Council. Some are saying he was wise to take 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.120 it to Florida because not only if that's where the 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:08.720 documents were, it prevents Trump from drawing out the trial. 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.520 If it were here in New York, what would Trump say, Oh, 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.279 in New York is not a fair jury in New York. 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.480 Everybody in New York is against it, which is true, 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.400 and he would argue that he would be certainly convicted. 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:23.080 So you take it to Florida aware one of the 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.080 grand juries voted to indict. So even though Florida is 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.479 Trump slashed the Santis country, they got a grand jury 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.000 down there, can't get a grand jury nowhere to indict 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.120 no officers for killing black people. But a grand jury 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.200 in Florida, one of the red estates in the country, 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.719 now voted to charge Donald Trump and to indict him. 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.200 That says they saw something. They was like, whoa, this 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:49.239 is a little scary. So you we'll have to see. 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.400 I think the whole will be with the judge. She'll 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:55.239 probably try to do some procedural things to muck it up. 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.320 But I think it's going to be very difficult because 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.400 when you instruct jury in a trial, you try to 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:08.040 confine it to just the facts. Did he take these documents? 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.000 That is the question, and there are pictures of the documents. 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.239 He's been all over television. Seeah, I took him, my 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:14.960 head the right to take him, but he didn't. He 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:16.400 didn't have the right to take him. 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:21.280 So he took these documents when he left left office. 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.480 So this is not all at least that's what they think, 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:24.840 because he couldn't. 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.560 He took he took backed up, and he took his ship. 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:31.920 So we saw the picture of the U haul truck 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.480 outside in front of the White House and they made jokes. No, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.520 it was like a real picture and people made jokes 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.080 that it was Milania getting her stuff out of there. 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:43.759 But it's very possible. 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.760 There's some documents like he just did what he wanted 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.239 to do. But there has to be a reason for it, 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.719 because you can't tell me that this man did not 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.840 know he could get in big trouble for taking these documents. 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.879 But he took the risks anyway. But then why would 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.160 he tell other people? 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:04.399 Mark, would you say he's stupid? He's you know, and 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:06.680 and he's he's narcissistic. He thinks he can get away 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:11.560 with everything. Look, remember now, folks, the protocol is for 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.080 the outgoing president and the incoming president to be sworn 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.760 in the ride to the Capitol together. 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.239 Remember Trump didn't go to Biden's inauguration, he boycotted it. 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:23.719 Well, now we know why he stayed back to be 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.120 sure that his stuff personally, he personally packed this stuff. 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.400 That's what the indictment said. He didn't have just staff 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.799 do it. He's going through the boxes. Let's get this, 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.879 let's get this instructing people what to pack. 0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:35.120 So and he didn't do that. 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.440 In a matter of a few hours, he had obviously 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.120 contemplated what he was gonna take and what he was 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:44.120 going to try to use, uh, to either sell or 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.600 to flash around. Uh, you know what other thing to 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.080 makes him stupid is I hope he got something out 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.880 of it. I mean, what's the point in going to 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.160 jail just to keep some in your bathroom. You're gonna 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.040 gonna do somethinghere to sell it, get some money, you know, 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:03.000 extend your your contract with Putin or whoever you're gonna 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:03.799 sell that information to. 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.239 You probably gonna have you probably gonna have a you know, 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:10.160 sut his own little museum. 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:14.120 Well again, that's what there's a process for that. 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:18.000 There are presidential libraries in museums, and you have to 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.160 go through the National Archives and they decide what's released. 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:25.000 Some things have timed releases, so there's certain presidential libraries. 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:26.640 They may never get a document, they won't right away, 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:30.760 but they'll get it when it's officials to be released. 0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:34.360 He's gonna circumfit the process. 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.520 Man, already, I want it now. 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.399 And but but even with that, has anybody heard about 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.279 any fundraising the bill? The Trump Presidential library because it 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:44.200 any most that starts right away. 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.480 That probably was the reason money if his library. 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.280 Trump ain't got no library, he has got no players 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.400 the libraries in the bathroom in Marlaga. 0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.799 He probably was trying to be that was his exit plan, 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.000 his retirement plan. He said, Man, all those fails, I 0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:57.960 got these documents. 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.719 Man, I said, but wait me, let me ask this 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:01.319 question though. 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.479 Do you think and I know, again, like you said, 0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:04.560 none of us are lawyers. 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:06.840 We weren't there. We don't know all the details, but 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:08.040 we were pretty. 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.120 Smart folks, and you know, we've been doing some things 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:14.239 for long enough that we can make some pretty good assumption. 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.759 Do you think he was being blackmailed to get these documents? 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:23.600 And have we heard yet that anything is missing? 0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:28.200 Like are they looking for something in the to your point, 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:34.160 current administration, the current administration has to deal with allies saying, hey, 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.400 where's the stuff that we got something going on over here? 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.520 Where's that stuff? Like cause anybody said, well, you know, 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.960 where is this document that is about something serious in 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.520 terms of international issues? 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:50.799 Right? So last I'll answer the second part. 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:54.440 First, I think we can reasonably hypothesize that that is 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.560 going on, but because it's classified, they won't tell us. 0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.520 Also, that's the nature of that. 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.279 We're going to to get little pieces of information dribbled out, 0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:04.520 and they're not going to disclose anything. 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.920 That they may want to use in trial, because. 0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:12.400 That's we're gonna know everything in trial. It's going to 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:13.000 be closed. 0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.439 Well, well some of it will be open. 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.080 I'm sure some of it will be closed, some of 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.320 it will be classified. But whatever they choose to disclose 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:21.880 to the public, they're gonna hold that evidence. 0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:23.719 They're not going to give tip him off. 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:28.920 Right, we'll never know the conversations that Biden is having 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:30.200 with world leaders. 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.520 Will never know, I said, New York Times just did a. 0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:38.839 Story on cioperatives being targeted and hunted and killed. So 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.520 but you can't say who they were because that's the 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.359 nature of being a CIA operative. Nobody can know who 0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.640 you are. Sometimes your family can't know you're a CIA operative. 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:49.920 And so we'll never know whether that's a relationship. But 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.440 directly between what Trump is done, we may find out 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:57.200 in months to come or years to come. The White 0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.600 House will never tell us that the President of France 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:02.640 is called by it and to say. 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.280 Hey man, you compromise some of my people. 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.080 You got you got operatives that work for the United 0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:11.000 States and operatives who work for other countries if their 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.759 locations are disclosed. I mean this, this is that's the 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.839 nature of the spy business. Your your life's on the line. 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.799 If you get you get outed, you you're done. You 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.719 your cover's blown. We've all watched enough TV and movies. 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:24.399 You know where it works. You're covers blown, You're done. 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:26.279 So Trump is a spot. 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:33.080 Well so Malcolm Nance, who's the national security expert himself, 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.080 when this, you know, was going on at first when 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:37.959 he was in office, kind. 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:39.120 Of walked us through the four levels. 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.080 The highest level being a full on agent, the lowest 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.960 level being a useful idiot. And I think there was 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.960 consensus that Trump has always been a useful idiot. Nobody 0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:50.840 could ever find the evidence that he was actually on 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:52.960 a payroll and that he had a you know, a. 0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:54.360 W two from the Russian government. 0:51:55.000 --> 0:52:00.040 But somewhere on that spectrum he's between useful idiot and 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:00.840 being an agent. 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:05.239 I think he played being black men possibly. 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.080 Well, and that's part of the compromise. 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:11.120 The compromise was always that they had surveiled Russia had 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:11.960 surveiled him. 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:13.680 It surveiled him in Russia. 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.439 That's how the issue of the Golden Shower, the PP 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.319 tape was out there, although they may not even need 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:23.799 that because what you also have the other reality is 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:28.720 he owes money to the to the oligarchs in Russia. 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:29.919 That's enough. 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.920 And let me tell you something. Put this aside. What 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:34.560 we all know, what they how they play in Russia. 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:35.799 They will take you out. 0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:40.160 They kill people, they disappear people, car accidents, everybody jumping out. 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.160 Everybody ain't jumping out the window two three, four times 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.160 a week. That doesn't happen every day, always five people 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.680 jumped out the window Russia today. You know, no, no, 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.680 no important people too, I mean big name people. 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:52.560 So you know he knows that. 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.880 And so that probably too is part of the black 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.560 male and so that's that's how he gets away with. 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.719 That's why, that's what that's what motivates hm. 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:00.880 Hm. 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.520 Wow, it's a lot. 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.240 To unpack, Mark, it's a lot to unpack. 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:10.880 So he's going to jail, well, we we hope, so 0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:14.040 we hope that he's held accountable. I mean, they'll probably 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.560 they'll send him someplace nice if he goes, but I 0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.719 think it'll be very very difficult. I mean, what do 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:21.280 you do with the president. You put an ankle bracelet 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.359 on it, you let him, you stay in the house. 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.359 I mean, you got to figure out this. This has 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.120 never happened before, so this, this will be a very 0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.760 very different thing. If he goes to jail, he won't 0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.240 have the bronzer, the hair care products. 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:34.120 It's gonna be rough. 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:37.239 I think you can give him house. Arrests him and 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:38.000 his homeboys. 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:43.320 He got his house, like he got what table, tenants, 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.919 he got tenants, he got golf, he got whatever he needed. 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.200 It ain't ten to jail. I don't have that much 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.440 faith in the hearth I hear. 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:53.839 And you may be right. 0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.839 You may be right about that too, but it may 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.560 be enough that this will be if this happens and 0:53:59.600 --> 0:53:59.960 goes down. 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:00.920 If he's convicted. 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:05.000 The first of all, he's already the first president in 0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.800 history to be federally indicted. 0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:09.640 And it's not done there. 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:13.640 Finnie Willis in Georgia is working on another indictment from 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.440 the from the election and the interference in that. 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:18.879 So he's going to have other indictments to come. 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.719 He's got a city indictment here in Manhattan, a state 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:26.040 indictment from the state of New York, George is coming. 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.080 No that this has never happened to any other president 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:31.719 in history, So if nothing else, he's in. 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:33.319 The history books for that. 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:36.200 Wow. 0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.320 Now now the question becomes, what all now the candidates 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:41.400 are running on, Well, we'll pardon, We'll do like Gerald 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:45.719 Ford and and pardon him if he's in office soon 0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.800 if they put him in jail. Whoever, if a Republican 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.040 president is in office, they'll pardon him, uh and and 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.360 release him. And you know, the way this country works, 0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:58.160 Biden may be if he's re elected, he may be 0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:02.080 forced to the same because remember, Jim, that's what I know. 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.759 Before you say, because I want you to say, give 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.040 us the history of Jimmy Carter. But I was gonna 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:12.920 say that Joe Biden president Biden might pardon him himself 0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:16.680 because if there is violence in the streets the way 0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:19.520 that has that Trump has been calling for, right like 0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.640 that is a thing, a real thing that he's using, 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:27.840 which I don't even think that it's a whole language anymore. 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.560 Seems to be very clear that tomorrow, I get well, 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.280 we wouldn't say tomorrow. It seems to be very clear 0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.759 that he and other extremist groups are calling for there 0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:41.880 to be an uprising, and if he goes to jail, 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.680 we can only imagine that that would get worse. And 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:48.520 perhaps Joe Biden would feel that or the administration would 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:50.799 feel that it doesn't serve the country to have him 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.759 inside of a prison. And and you know, and the 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:57.600 other thing is does it serve our country from a 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:03.759 you know, visual right, the visuals of that tour for 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:06.440 other countries doesn't make us look weak, like what do 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:06.920 you think? 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:09.480 Well, those are all the considerations Biden will have to 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.160 take up because it is. 0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:12.719 Going to impact allies. 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:14.000 You know. 0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:19.400 The Prime Minister of Britain was just here. He visited 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.440 the White House and for the first time he's a 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:22.200 person of color. 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.200 Although he's a right wing conservative. 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:29.120 I'm sure in those private conversations Biden had to provide 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:34.319 some reassurance that mutual secrets are safe or unsafe. Now, 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:39.640 the other thing that happens is if and a CI 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:43.359 operative is at risk of being burned, and people know that, 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:45.399 I mean, they get these documents, they review them, they say, 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.799 look these people in jeopardy. Then you pull them out, 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.680 you know, if you have time to do that. But 0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:52.560 we also know some people have not been able to 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.720 be pulled out, and their lives may be in jeopardy 0:56:54.760 --> 0:57:01.000 even as we speak. But I think that what Biden 0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:02.880 is going to. 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:03.439 Have to do. 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:08.520 Jimmy Carter commuted the sentences of one or two people 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:12.480 convicted in Watergate. They were still they weren't pardoned, but 0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:17.600 they were commuted from prison to be free. Trump is 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:20.520 an old man. They sent him to prison. I mean, 0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.200 it could just be something simple. He's too old, too sick, 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.400 and people play those games too. The mafia does that. 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:28.960 I mean, if you you know, I'm too old, I'm sick, 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:31.200 and then they'll figure out a way to commute the sentence. 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.280 So seeing him doue to count a hard time that 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:38.400 a young person or a non president. Look look how 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:42.280 they prosecute people or want to prosecute those involved in 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.880 wiki leaks and other classified information. This is the same thing. 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.360 And the United States has pressed him it so you 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:52.720 can't come after all the other whistleblowers who are legitimate 0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:55.280 whistle blowers, and then comes to Donald Trump. 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:56.840 Well we're just going to give him a pass. 0:57:56.920 --> 0:58:01.440 Now, Well that's it. 0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:03.640 I mean, it's like you said, Myson, it's a lot 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.240 to unpack, and especially for people who don't pay attention 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:11.080 to politics at all. This is like overwhelming all of 0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:13.800 this stuff. All they see is on the news. You know, 0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:17.560 Trump has indicted, and I think that it certainly puts 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:21.960 a damper on society if he's indicted in this way. 0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:23.320 All these charges. 0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:25.840 You hear all these people saying this is a big deal, 0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:29.480 and then he does not face any real consequences for it. 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.280 That's not good for America either. So no, it may 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.240 not be good to have him. 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:38.680 In prison because of all the implications, the violence, the 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:42.040 just everything. How we look again, because to your point, 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:45.400 which I didn't even think about that Mark, that if 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.400 you put him in jail, what stops him from just 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:49.520 telling everything. 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.440 He knows right and. 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:55.560 Really putting our country in danger and our agents that 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.080 are around, you know, across the borders and in different 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.960 places around the world. So, I mean, all of those 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:04.000 things are true, but there's also something to be said 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:08.160 about the fact that our people and people anybody other 0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:12.080 than the president and rich white men and rich white 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:18.080 people are held responsible and accountable for their actions tenfold 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:22.360 sometimes tenfold, and to see him walk free with just 0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:26.160 I think that would also harm the country, our politics 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.160 and everything else. So that's that on that, But I 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:30.000 don't know if you want to say something about that, 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:32.560 But I do want you before you go, Mark, tell 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:38.040 us about what's happening with Jalen Walker matter in Akron, Ohio. 0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:40.640 No, I'm good. 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:42.320 I want to hear about it because what you said 0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:44.080 is pretty much my sentiments. 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.000 It's just it's a quagmire. 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.640 You know, when you think about Trump, what he represents is, 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:55.120 you know, he represents lawlessness, and he represents something that 0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:58.760 can put this whole country in jeopardy on either way, 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:01.760 him being free jeopardized us, and him not being free 1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:04.240 also jeopardized us. And that's why we have to be 1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:06.800 very careful about the people that we put in power. 1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:10.920 You know, you give people a level of power, they 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.960 can abuse it, you know, you know so. And I 1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.920 think his actions in the way that he moves shows 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.600 that at some point he realized that he had a 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:24.120 level of leverage that made it almost impossible for him 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:27.880 to be held accountable, right because he's like, yo, I'm 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:31.120 a common person. I'm somebody who's not politically savvy. I 1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:33.120 just have money. I know how to utilize my money. 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.040 Now you give me access to secrets and things that 1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:37.480 can completely. 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:38.280 Damage this country. 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:42.320 I have knowledge that I shouldn't know, and they know 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:45.200 that I have this not so you know, you can't 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.040 make me an enemy, you know, because then at that 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.720 point I could utilize this information to benefit me. So 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:55.200 it's like he's playing from that point of view. 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.680 So yeah, it's very strade. 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:58.240 I agree. 1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:00.200 And last thing I said just on Trump is I 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:04.320 know I wouldn't want to be caught in between the 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.880 CIA and the Russian FSB. 1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.760 I mean, you have, you have a death sentence. 1:01:10.360 --> 1:01:14.080 You're gonna piss off the CIA and the Russian FSB, 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.160 and and sooner or later something's gonna happen to you. 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:18.200 I mean that's just all. 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:21.120 This may not having the day of tomorrow, but you 1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:23.600 really those are two people, you, two groups at two 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:26.880 institutions you don't want to have looking for you. So 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:29.240 you know that that's it. And so from that point 1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:31.120 of view, and I know, no do others. The more 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:32.520 people that around him, they don't want to be called 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:33.960 ininated because their names exposed. 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:37.080 So folks are heading for the els by a peace man. 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:38.439 Nice to know you. I'm out. 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:39.000 Uh. 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:41.560 So there's that Jalen Walker. 1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:45.520 Uh, folks, grand jury see and this, watch that, and 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:47.920 I said that earlier. For a reason, you have a 1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:51.960 grandeur in a red state like Florida. See what we 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.840 not what we've yet to see. They saw enough to say, 1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:58.880 indict the former president Donald Trump, who ran in this state. 1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:02.640 In one They found a grand jury to do that. 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.360 That's huge, that's not supposed to happen. 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:10.840 Grand jury in Akron, Ohio seized the hard evidence of 1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:13.880 a young brother shot at almost one hundred times with 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:16.800 forty six bullets hit him and decide. 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:19.800 Not to hold a single officer. 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:24.200 Who of the eight officers and five the shot everybody 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:26.080 got off Scott free. 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:28.640 Had a national margin Akron last month. 1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:31.520 This month, June twenty seventh, we invite people I know 1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:34.560 you both will be there at the Department of Justice 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.840 to the man the Department of Justice initiate a pattern 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:43.360 and practice investigation into the Akron Police Department and investigate 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:46.200 the case of Jalen Walker to see what his civil 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:50.200 rights were in fact violated. So you know, while we 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:55.160 get some I mean, while people are seeking justice for Trump, 1:02:55.200 --> 1:03:00.160 we still have our lives not mattering. You know, you know, 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:02.760 you know what I get it to Trump. You know 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:05.000 what Trump ought to say key'all said, wait a minute, y'all, 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:09.280 if you can't indict someone where there's video and photos 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:11.200 of him being shot forty six times, you can let 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:12.520 them off, why can't you let me off? 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:15.480 You would almost be justified in saying that, what's the difference? 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:19.240 They had the evidence, dead to rights on those eight 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:23.760 officer in Acron did nothing and so obviously to the 1:03:23.840 --> 1:03:25.920 United States and the many of the United States and 1:03:25.920 --> 1:03:29.160 the people on these grand juries, these documents are more valuable. 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:33.560 But again, why we're talking about agencies where their individuals 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:35.440 working in their lives in jeopardy, and most of those 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.320 people don't look like us. Now, I'm sure there's some 1:03:37.880 --> 1:03:40.000 agents of color their operatives. When to say, you know, 1:03:40.000 --> 1:03:42.160 black people have jobs in the CIA, Now people color 1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:45.000 have jobs in the CIA, But that's still the institution 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:45.800 of the empire. 1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:49.000 That's still the institution of the empire. Jalen Walker out 1:03:49.040 --> 1:03:50.560 here on his own, any one of us out here 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:50.919 on our. 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:56.439 Own, there's no accountability justice for Jaalen dot us. Check 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:58.920 your social media. But one point thirty PM a Department 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:00.560 of Justice. If you're in the DMV, if you want 1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:04.200 to join us, and we're bringing buses from Akron. So 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:05.800 if you're an Acron, you can jump on the bus, 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:08.560 Hop on the bus, get on the bus, come to Washington, DC. 1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:10.840 We're gonna be out in front of the DJ making 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:12.560 some noise for our brother. We have to we have 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.760 to do something to bring this about. Mary Garland didn't 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:17.520 want to prosecute Donald Trump. That's why he gave it 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:21.640 to a special council. Wisely, but we got to do 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:24.800 something about Jalen Walker. You know, let's let's get let's 1:04:24.840 --> 1:04:26.520 hold those officers accountable as well. 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:31.360 Well, we want to say but before before you do that, Mark, 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:34.240 tell us about what the people of Akron did. 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:36.120 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:38.200 The legislation that's the past. 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:40.800 Well Akron, I would hope, And unfortunately this does not 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:46.320 get the type of coverage it deserves. Akron was Jalen 1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:50.320 Walker was shot June twenty sevens twenty twenty two. So 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:53.680 that's why we're gathering in Washington D June twenty seven. 1:04:55.120 --> 1:05:00.520 By November of twenty twenty two, the citizens of Akron 1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:04.720 got placed on the ballot an initiative to give to 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:08.200 establish civilian oversight of the Ariican Police Department. 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:11.400 So less than six months and folks. That shows the 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:12.040 power we have. 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:16.160 In our local communities to bring about change and reform. 1:05:16.560 --> 1:05:19.160 As I've said, I know it sounds like a broken record. 1:05:20.000 --> 1:05:27.760 We will not tweet justice in policing. Police are governed locally, 1:05:28.160 --> 1:05:31.240 so we gotta get IOBO grease together. But you know, 1:05:31.320 --> 1:05:34.600 it's sometimes it's easier to tweet. Sometimes it's not as 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:36.400 glamorous and we don't have as much time. 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:39.680 It's too tedious to do local organizing. 1:05:39.760 --> 1:05:41.920 And we get gratified when we put something on Twitter 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:45.520 on Instagram and it gets thousands of likes, But how 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:47.720 many of those likes in your local community to bring 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:49.200 the change in that local space. 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:50.919 Akron didn't do any of that. 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:53.760 They got on the ground and Akron focused on Akron 1:05:54.400 --> 1:05:56.080 and got that initiative on the ballot so that the 1:05:56.240 --> 1:05:58.360 civilian overside of the police part if Akron can do it, 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:01.360 the low Akron is not any news every day. Every 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:04.480 other city, big or small can do the same thing. 1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:07.680 So I think people really should should focus on that, 1:06:07.760 --> 1:06:11.240 you know, and not give in to the instagratification and 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:14.360 the comfort of because because the social media is not 1:06:14.400 --> 1:06:18.160 telling you where these lights coming from and what assignment 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:21.400 are you giving I want in York, I want you 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:23.840 all to sign this petition. What's about to happen in Atlanta. 1:06:23.880 --> 1:06:26.640 We were down there to stop cop City. Their signature 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:30.080 is on the ballot to vote to repeal the city 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:33.680 Council's passage of cop City this November, and they'll probably 1:06:33.680 --> 1:06:37.800 do it. But that's real organizing. That's the discipline that 1:06:37.880 --> 1:06:42.040 it takes. And and look as we look at we're 1:06:42.120 --> 1:06:44.520 upon the sixty the anniversary of Mega Ever's assassination. 1:06:45.440 --> 1:06:46.240 Local organized. 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:50.560 Mega wasn't shot for being a national organized that's the 1:06:50.640 --> 1:06:54.800 power of local organized. Doctor King Montgomery again, if he 1:06:54.840 --> 1:06:56.160 was around there, what we tell him to do? Oh 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:58.560 for womer national organization and get your Instagram account. No, 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:02.040 we gotta do the local organizing when it comes to 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:03.880 a lot of these issues, especially the police. 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:05.240 That's what the people in Actin did. 1:07:08.440 --> 1:07:08.960 Well Mark. 1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:13.400 You know, it's a lot because we could go on 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:15.680 and on with this case. In that case and people 1:07:15.840 --> 1:07:18.480 some people know about cop City because we started informing 1:07:18.520 --> 1:07:22.640 them on our show and started talking about cop City, 1:07:23.120 --> 1:07:25.360 and you know, so some folks know, but some people 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:30.720 are like what cops, Jaylen Walker, Trump, It's so many 1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:33.000 things that one time it's hard to keep up with, 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:35.439 but it's good to know that you know, you're out 1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:37.920 there in so many different staces and then able to 1:07:38.080 --> 1:07:43.840 come and articulate you were out while being between working 1:07:43.840 --> 1:07:48.560 with Justin Jones in Tennessee. You were then back in 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:52.360 New York for Jordan Neely to stand with Jordan, the 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:57.080 protesters and the organizers around the murder of Jordan Neely, 1:07:57.440 --> 1:07:59.520 which we should talk about that real quick before you go. 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:03.760 Then you you know, back and forth, and Akron helping 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:06.120 to manage things there, showed up. 1:08:05.960 --> 1:08:07.760 For the folks at cop City. 1:08:07.840 --> 1:08:09.840 It's something to be said about all of that, because 1:08:09.840 --> 1:08:11.400 it's a lot of work and it takes a lot 1:08:11.400 --> 1:08:14.600 of resources to move around from state to state and 1:08:14.640 --> 1:08:17.960 be there to give some of that wisdom that you 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:20.840 have to these movements that are being led largely by 1:08:20.920 --> 1:08:24.920 younger organizers, younger organizers and younger activists. 1:08:24.960 --> 1:08:27.640 And I know that everybody. 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:31.479 That you've been working with appreciates your involvement and the 1:08:31.640 --> 1:08:34.160 knowledge that you have just a wealth of knowledge. I 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:37.760 know certainly we do it until freedom, and we do personally, 1:08:37.880 --> 1:08:41.040 you know, my son, and so we just want to 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:44.040 salute you, first of all for what you've been doing 1:08:44.280 --> 1:08:46.720 and how consistent you've been in this movement for a 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:49.760 very very long time. And and I did want to 1:08:49.800 --> 1:08:51.759 talk about Oh shoot, I forgot what was it? 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:53.080 What was about? 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:55.400 Right? 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:59.240 Did you all see that for Jordan Nearly? 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:00.400 Uh? 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:04.160 That that Daniel Perry came out with a statement where 1:09:04.200 --> 1:09:06.360 he sat down with. 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:08.320 He did a video. Did you see this? It just 1:09:08.400 --> 1:09:09.400 came out yesterday. 1:09:09.880 --> 1:09:12.559 He did a video recording and one of the things 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:16.200 he says in his video is that he was he 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:20.080 was his life was threatened, and he had no choice 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.520 but to do what he did because he was protecting 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:27.479 himself and he was protecting the other people on the train. 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:32.599 I'm still who else has corroborated the story that his 1:09:32.760 --> 1:09:35.400 life was in danger, because I'm not heard one person 1:09:35.560 --> 1:09:40.960 say that Jordan Nearly touched, lunged at, or did anything 1:09:40.960 --> 1:09:44.519 to anybody. And and maybe I'm wrong about this because 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:47.840 I know Mark, you know most of the details. Did 1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:53.320 we not hear that that that, uh, Daniel Perry approached 1:09:53.400 --> 1:09:57.680 Jordan Nearly from behind? So how are you threatened if 1:09:57.680 --> 1:10:00.240 you went behind somebody and snuck up on And that's 1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:01.400 what the reporter said. 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:03.200 The reporter or the journalist. 1:10:03.600 --> 1:10:06.320 The journalist who was there that recorded is said that 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:11.640 Daniel Perry saw Jordan Neely yelling and screaming and that 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:14.920 he snuck upon him from behind and grabbed him around 1:10:14.920 --> 1:10:17.719 his neck, which is which based upon what we see 1:10:17.800 --> 1:10:20.000 in the video, that looks about right. 1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:23.200 Well, and you can't you can't put somebody in a 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:25.840 lock like that unless you are behind them. But but 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:30.360 here's here's the thing. We've not heard that he was threatened, 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:33.439 but then we know he was. Why was he threatened? 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:38.120 Because he was black? And people like Daniel Perry are 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:42.040 existentially threatened by black people just whatever we're doing, and 1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:46.360 if we're loud, especially we're doing something, or just there's 1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:49.960 something too. People have a fear of homeless people. They 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:51.920 see homeless people and they feel like homeless people are 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:55.160 gonna do something to him or and it's it's it's absurd. 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:59.960 But I doubt that if Jordan Neely was an unhigh 1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:02.599 I was a white person, that he would have done 1:11:02.600 --> 1:11:04.120 it that way or reacted in that way. 1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:07.479 So you know, if I'm the prosecutor, I'm going to 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:09.400 get into that. What were you, how did he threaten you? 1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:10.920 What were you afraid of? 1:11:11.000 --> 1:11:16.200 And then bring out the inherent racism in his perspective, 1:11:16.240 --> 1:11:22.320 in his lens to get this bs manslaughter charl he 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:24.880 should be that the charge should be higher, should not 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:27.760 be manslaughter, because so you got to break down the 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:31.360 amount of time, you know, and all the witnesses covering 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:34.160 for him, because there's a there's a moment in time 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:36.760 when he made a decision to put him in that 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:41.120 headlock and choke him. Were they in a confrontation. It 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:45.680 doesn't manslaughter require something accidental. But what gives you the 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:48.880 right to put another human being in choko? Come on, mi, 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:50.280 let meet him, go down subway there and put them 1:11:50.280 --> 1:11:50.720 back in choco. 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:53.320 We can't do that a white man at that. 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:55.040 Yeah, I mean, we can't do that. 1:11:55.160 --> 1:11:56.960 Just you're busy to make you business, go put some 1:11:56.960 --> 1:11:58.880 back in choke. Guess it's not what you do. You 1:11:58.920 --> 1:12:02.479 can't just do that and then say manslaughter, which suggests, well, 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:04.080 you know, it's a little people saying and it was 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:06.040 an accident. Ain't no accident. If I go down to 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:09.719 put somebody in a choko and that is a lethal thing, mostly, 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:11.360 how many people know how to put somebody in. 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:14.040 Choco and kill him? You have to be taught that. 1:12:14.080 --> 1:12:15.360 I don't say that. 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:15.840 I don't know. 1:12:16.400 --> 1:12:18.040 Y'all told me right now, go put somebody in choko. 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:19.880 I wouldn't know how to do it. I see what 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:21.400 I see on TV, but I you know, I mess 1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:22.080 it up. I don't know. 1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:24.439 So if you are a marine, which means you're a 1:12:24.439 --> 1:12:26.760 part of law enforcement, you know exactly how. 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:30.320 To do it. That's a military mood. It is a lethal, 1:12:30.479 --> 1:12:34.880 fatal and deadly mood. And he made a decision at 1:12:34.920 --> 1:12:35.840 a point to do that. 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:38.720 And when he made that decision, that's what why it 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:39.400 has to be looked at. 1:12:39.439 --> 1:12:42.000 Is it manslaughter is a second degree? 1:12:42.600 --> 1:12:46.000 It could still be first degree because the moment you premeditated, 1:12:47.000 --> 1:12:49.639 you know, I'm gonna kill this person, But when did 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:50.439 you decide to do that? 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:52.120 Is it? 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:55.559 Is it an accidental manslaughter kind of piece? If just 1:12:55.600 --> 1:13:00.040 because someone says I'm hungry and I'm tired, okay, and 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:02.559 then if I kill him, then that's kind of in 1:13:02.600 --> 1:13:04.360 the realm of it, because that's what people do. When 1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:06.439 people say they're hunger and tired, they might get killed. 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:07.080 So that's common. 1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:07.519 No, it's not. 1:13:08.320 --> 1:13:11.000 You made a decision when he said that that you 1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:13.240 were sick and tired of hearing his vite, his voice. 1:13:13.520 --> 1:13:15.519 You were disgusted by the way he looked and that 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:18.439 he was black, and you made a decision in your mind, 1:13:19.479 --> 1:13:22.120 you premeditated that went over there and killed him. 1:13:22.520 --> 1:13:27.080 Period sounds like they weren't murder than me. 1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:30.600 But hey, who are we We don't know nothing. 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:33.800 Right now, we know we are we were. 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:35.280 The sisters and the brothers. We're black, and we know 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:39.919 that there's a different it's sickening. There's a different standard 1:13:40.000 --> 1:13:43.400 of justice for us, a different standard of treatment. 1:13:45.160 --> 1:13:48.880 I was just with Merrily Evers. They shot her husband 1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:50.160 down like he was a dog. 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:55.200 And how many years did it take for that killer 1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:57.559 to be brought to justice, the woman who lied on 1:13:57.640 --> 1:13:58.400 him until. 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:01.360 I was just in Jackson, Mississippi. 1:14:01.400 --> 1:14:05.760 The tell families there she was able to leave here 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:10.599 and die peacefully without ever being charged for that last 1:14:10.600 --> 1:14:16.720 she told on Emmetel. So we know what this is 1:14:17.320 --> 1:14:21.479 and and that's why you know, who cares about Donald 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:25.120 Trump as a person. But the question becomes is is 1:14:25.160 --> 1:14:29.479 this is this one opportunity for the justice system to 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:31.960 actually be fair? Donald Trump gets off, It'll just confirm 1:14:31.960 --> 1:14:35.280 what we've already known that it's not fair, and then 1:14:35.439 --> 1:14:40.040 how many deaths has he caused with his behavior versus 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:42.000 ones we don't even cause, And then we have to 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:44.799 answer for ourselves. We help, we're taking a trial, we're convicted, 1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:48.639 we're locked up doing serious hard time. Most of us 1:14:48.680 --> 1:14:53.759 for nonviolent crimes. Haven't put our hands on anybody. Folks 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:56.880 still serving time for some kind of drug offense or 1:14:56.920 --> 1:15:00.639 something like that. So that's that's the problem with this country. 1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:02.479 That's a double stand. That's why we keep fighting. You know, 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:05.160 everywhere you listen all places I've been, everywhere I've been, 1:15:05.240 --> 1:15:07.280 y'all being so y'all, don't act like I'm going these 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:08.120 places by myself. 1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:09.960 We running around y'all. 1:15:10.000 --> 1:15:14.599 But still it's not I say this in closing, if 1:15:15.120 --> 1:15:20.280 if everybody listening to this podcast raise their hand and 1:15:20.360 --> 1:15:23.840 wanted to take an assignment on an issue affecting our people, 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:29.000 there will still be a million leftover. That's how much 1:15:29.040 --> 1:15:33.920 stuff we face every way, every day, on every level. 1:15:33.960 --> 1:15:36.960 And it's impossible for a couple of us to help everybody. 1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:39.639 That's why if we do stuff right where we are, 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:42.200 because stuffing some of you listening, stuff going on right 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:43.760 in your own community. We don't even know about it, 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:46.439 and the news ain't even covering, but you do, and 1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:48.679 you can organize around it, and then you know, black folks, 1:15:48.680 --> 1:15:50.200 you sing a song in church, right in the corner 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.479 where you are, right in the corner where you are, 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:54.680 someone far from harbor, you may help across the bar, 1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:56.639 right in the corner where you are, so you can 1:15:56.680 --> 1:16:01.280 make a difference, and when Carl will be there to 1:16:01.320 --> 1:16:04.080 support you. But don't wait on social media, don't wait 1:16:04.120 --> 1:16:06.880 on us. Just organize and get into it, and let's 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:08.880 get some of our people some more. 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:10.600 The freedom that we deserve. 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:13.479 Sounds about right to me. 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:17.840 Great, Mark, you on it, you on point. Thank you 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:21.000 very much for joining us today. We needed that update. 1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:23.000 We don't want to just talk. We wanted to have 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:25.240 somebody on here that know a little bit of something 1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:25.960 about a sun. 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:30.400 That's thanks Mark, We appreciate you. 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:32.960 Reverend Thompson, thank you for having me. Blessed to be 1:16:33.000 --> 1:16:33.519 here with you. 1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:35.960 Both. Continue folks to support until freedom. 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:39.320 Yeah, Mark Thompson of make It Playing, You got your 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:42.920 own show that folks need to support. Tell people how 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:45.200 they can catch you, where they can follow you. 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:47.840 Make itplain dot com. That's the easy place to go. 1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:49.960 But wherever you download your podcast, make it playing with 1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:50.839 Reverend Mark Thompson. 1:16:50.840 --> 1:16:52.760 It's everywhere you can download it. 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:56.040 We just recently posted an interview we did ten years 1:16:56.040 --> 1:17:00.160 ago with Merrily Evers which she disclosed that when she 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:04.040 and her husband asked for extra security from the NAACP, 1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:07.599 they denied it and the NAACP later fifty years later 1:17:07.640 --> 1:17:13.040 apologized for that. And it's a very poignant story that 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:15.840 she shares. So folks, so yes, please make it plain 1:17:15.840 --> 1:17:18.599 with Rivermark Thomas. Where you get your podcasts, Makeaplaine dot 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:21.519 com and let's get out all get out here and 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:23.120 get them get into it and get involved. 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:26.240 All right, Peace, thank you, Mark, Peace King. 1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:32.200 I appreciate whenever we get to have you know, Mark 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:34.639 on the show, because he really, even though he's an activist, 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:37.000 he's a thought leader, and I think a lot of 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:39.559 times people don't necessarily give him credit or maybe they 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:39.960 just don't know. 1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:40.160 You know. 1:17:40.200 --> 1:17:44.120 It's like it's like certain people get all the attention 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:46.840 and whatever. They just say stupid shit all the time 1:17:46.920 --> 1:17:49.680 and stuff you know that don't even matter, and then 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:52.040 the people who actually are like out there on the 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:53.479 ground that they get drowned out. 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:56.679 It's just very weird. We live in weird, weird times. 1:17:56.920 --> 1:17:59.040 We live in trendy times, you know, and that's that's 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:02.040 what it is. And you just got to acknowledge that. 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:05.800 And what I realized that hard work and real work, 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:10.600 substantive work, outlastes everything, you know. It's like it's like 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:13.639 when you look at certain brands, they just they don't 1:18:13.680 --> 1:18:15.880 go nowhere. I don't give fuck what happens. Polo ain't 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:18.280 going nowhere. It might not be the hottest thing for 1:18:18.320 --> 1:18:20.400 a day, and it might this and that and other 1:18:20.479 --> 1:18:22.640 brands come up with some new shit that people were in. 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:24.800 Polo's gonna be there, you know. 1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:27.400 So my thing is to just be Polo and be 1:18:27.520 --> 1:18:30.439 consistent and be you know, and have a brand that 1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:32.519 everybody knows that this is what you get with me. 1:18:33.000 --> 1:18:33.840 In consistency. 1:18:34.520 --> 1:18:36.920 I like that, Just be Polo, hey. 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:41.439 I mean I wouldn't necessarily use Polo out in the world. 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:44.360 It's like I would probably say something like just the. 1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:48.400 Time, you know, or just be because Polo probably has 1:18:48.400 --> 1:18:50.280 a history of racism to. 1:18:50.320 --> 1:18:52.920 Who the hell knows. I mean, the point is so 1:18:53.120 --> 1:18:53.920 well taken. 1:18:54.120 --> 1:18:56.880 The point is so well taken because you know that 1:18:56.920 --> 1:19:00.840 Mark would be polo, right, like somebody that's been out 1:19:00.840 --> 1:19:05.160 here consistently for a long time, that has a lot 1:19:05.160 --> 1:19:08.760 of knowledge and and and he's the strategist, you know. 1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:12.519 So all those fails, you're like, well, who can we 1:19:12.520 --> 1:19:12.880 get this? 1:19:13.120 --> 1:19:13.160 You? 1:19:13.439 --> 1:19:16.080 Well, I know, Mark nos It's like you're saying. 1:19:16.080 --> 1:19:18.000 I'm going somewhere if they I need to find an outfit, 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:19.920 I can't. Well if I put on a good polo, 1:19:20.400 --> 1:19:22.960 you know, rugby, I ain't gonna lose. They ain't gonna 1:19:22.960 --> 1:19:25.360 say nothing wrong. Give me a good color to match 1:19:25.880 --> 1:19:27.439 polo Rugby. 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:27.439 I'm good. 1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:28.560 Get laughed at you. 1:19:29.000 --> 1:19:30.800 I gonna get laughed. There ain't nobody was going but 1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:33.280 you got polo. You know. It ain't much you can say. 1:19:33.520 --> 1:19:35.800 And then what happens is every now and. 1:19:35.720 --> 1:19:38.320 Then they get into the season where they trendy, where 1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:39.880 they where they you know, they come up with something 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:40.519 that's even hot. 1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:42.840 So you never lose a polo. The only thing you 1:19:42.840 --> 1:19:45.439 can do is win to struggle that. 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:47.439 I don't know how to help. We took a turn 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:49.040 to Mark and Polo. 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:53.400 But speaking of a short thing, no, I don't know 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:56.479 if you had the opportunity to see the fight last night, 1:19:57.479 --> 1:19:58.280 and it was I. 1:19:58.320 --> 1:20:01.280 Don't know nothing about the There was a fight after 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:01.920 the fight, but. 1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:04.640 I don't know about I didn't know nothing about a 1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:07.080 fight was happening until after the fight. 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:10.760 There was so much going on, you know, there was 1:20:10.760 --> 1:20:12.920 so my other don't get it. It's so layered. 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:21.880 There was a fight between Floyd Mayweather Junior and John 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:22.759 Gotti the Third. 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:25.640 Wait a minute, whoy's junior. 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:29.439 Floyd Mayweather Junior from Floyd Mayweather is junior? He is 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:30.599 a junior. That's who he is. 1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:33.040 Oh right, because his father his mother. 1:20:33.600 --> 1:20:36.680 Okay, that's fine, because I was about to say, wait 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:39.240 a minute, so you're telling me that because I thought. 1:20:39.000 --> 1:20:41.639 I was all the way off. If you're. 1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:47.160 Floyd Floyd regular, Floyd, Lloyd Champ, Grand Champ. That's why 1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:49.479 I said, you know, it's a sure thing. You know, 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:52.680 Floyd gonna win. So you know, the regular Champ was 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:54.639 fighting against John Gotti the third. 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:56.040 Who is John. 1:20:55.800 --> 1:20:57.759 Gotti's real John Gotti? 1:20:57.800 --> 1:21:06.160 Because I thought it was like a nickname, No, herd gotty, No, it's. 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:09.600 John Gotti's son, his real one, the third. There was 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:12.760 this match that it really heated up around the next 1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:14.880 last couple of days. You know, they've been scheduling, but 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:17.400 I didn't really see the promotion for it into the 1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:20.320 last few days. You know, it was in Miami. You know, 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:23.000 Floyd was doing all type of workouts at the Fountain Blue. 1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:24.880 We had all type of events at the Fountain Blue. 1:21:24.920 --> 1:21:27.280 They had the face over at the fountains with all 1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:29.720 types of things. So it was a Miami event. And 1:21:29.760 --> 1:21:31.559 then it just started picking up and I started saying, 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:34.040 all right, so Floyd fight, let me, let me tune 1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:36.280 into it. So I'm you know, I'm laying here after 1:21:36.320 --> 1:21:39.720 a long day, and so the first thing I don't 1:21:39.760 --> 1:21:44.800 get right was for the It was the bout was 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:49.960 scheduled for eight rounds, but they stopped it at six rounds. Now, 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:53.920 for these six rounds, John Gotti the third did not fight. 1:21:54.520 --> 1:21:56.760 He probably do one or two punches. Floyd was just 1:21:57.200 --> 1:21:59.080 pretty much treating him. 1:21:59.240 --> 1:22:01.439 Like a punch event. It was like an exids. I'm like, 1:22:01.479 --> 1:22:03.120 what is he doing? Is he in there of the fight? 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:06.560 So what I don't get is so there was after 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:10.599 he was getting beat up every round, he started grabbing Floyd. 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:12.679 Floyd was talking to him, just talking to him because 1:22:12.720 --> 1:22:14.559 he probably was trying to bait him to fight, like 1:22:14.640 --> 1:22:17.200 fight I'm just you just target practice. At this point, 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:21.680 you throwing probably one of two punches around. After the 1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:26.320 referee told him, hey, it's too much talking and it's 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:30.880 too much holding. It happens again. I'm gonna end the fight. 1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:37.240 So right after that, probably two minutes later, that happened again. 1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:41.240 He ends the fight. At that point, John Gotty third 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:44.400 starts going crazy. He starts throwing a bunch of punches. 1:22:44.439 --> 1:22:46.759 Now you ain't doing nothing. You didn't have this energy 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:49.840 the whole fight. The whole fight, you sitting there just 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:52.960 getting punched in the face and blocking. Now when the 1:22:52.960 --> 1:22:55.599 fight is over, you you turn into an incredible hulk. 1:22:55.640 --> 1:22:57.960 You want to start throwing punch and then you still 1:22:58.000 --> 1:23:01.200 get punched across the ring. I don't get why you 1:23:01.320 --> 1:23:04.120 had this energy after the fight was over, but you 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.760 didn't have that energy during the fight. It's like if 1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:08.280 you would have had that energy during the fight, you 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:09.920 probably more than like that. You would have still got 1:23:09.920 --> 1:23:12.080 beat up, but it would have been a fight at 1:23:12.120 --> 1:23:14.080 least would have looked like you was staying out there. 1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:15.519 You now you rageingr well. 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:20.240 So everybody comes on the stage, it's a it's mayhem, 1:23:20.720 --> 1:23:24.040 is a melee. You know he's they back him into 1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:27.400 the corner because now he doesne swung on Floyd. Now 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:30.920 everybody from Floyd's kid, like you see they all on 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:33.960 the stage. Dudes, I know people, we know they just 1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:37.599 running on the stage like big dudes coming. They got 1:23:37.600 --> 1:23:39.760 them back into a corner. So at some point the 1:23:39.800 --> 1:23:40.799 guy gets up the stage. 1:23:40.840 --> 1:23:43.080 It turns it to the people. 1:23:43.840 --> 1:23:45.240 Yep, the whole TMT team. 1:23:45.960 --> 1:23:53.000 And that was because at some point, non boxing match related, 1:23:53.760 --> 1:23:56.920 the gotty child, I mean, excuse me, the gotty dude 1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:00.559 tried to attack Floyd like on a different he. 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:04.840 Just ran because standing he just running, charging him, going 1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:06.960 crazy at that point. So now they're like, no, this 1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:09.519 ain't boxing no more. This match is over you You're 1:24:09.560 --> 1:24:12.920 taking this somewhere else. So now you know, people running 1:24:12.920 --> 1:24:15.479 on the running on the stage, you know, to get 1:24:15.479 --> 1:24:21.479 involved at that point. For by the good thirty minutes, don't. 1:24:21.360 --> 1:24:24.160 Have the police or the security. 1:24:23.680 --> 1:24:26.080 As security was not it was nothing they could do. 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:28.360 It was out of control. Like I'm telling you, it's 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:31.360 complete mayhem. So I'm watching this on TV for thirty 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:31.960 minutes straight. 1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:37.880 No huh, it was on the television. 1:24:40.000 --> 1:24:41.400 Camera did not turn off. 1:24:41.439 --> 1:24:44.480 They showed everybody that you see people on the sideline, 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:47.840 you see it just was you can hear people. You 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:50.240 could tell that there was a lot going on, not 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:53.479 just on the stage. And then his train up was 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:55.880 getting into it with other people, so that turned into 1:24:55.920 --> 1:24:59.240 a thing back and forth with them. 1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:01.519 So my I don't know. 1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:05.639 So then it gets backstage and someone that I didn't know, 1:25:06.439 --> 1:25:07.320 allegedly it. 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:08.400 Was Joscelyn Hernandez. 1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:12.840 I just see this woman whooping everybody's ass, like I mean, 1:25:13.240 --> 1:25:17.400 she throwing blows, she wrestling, she kicking then and broke 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:19.000 her up four or five times. 1:25:19.000 --> 1:25:20.760 She still So what. 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:22.080 I want to do is I want to I want 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:24.360 to give a lot of props to a lot of 1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:26.840 the men that were there because I watched her. 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:29.960 It's this one dude. I hope we showed the cliff. 1:25:30.000 --> 1:25:30.800 I'm gonna find it. 1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.680 But it was this one white man, I think he 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:38.920 was a security guard. And she slapped this man four 1:25:38.960 --> 1:25:43.840 times in his face clean and he didn't lift in 1:25:44.120 --> 1:25:48.400 hand to harm her. He didn't retaliate, he didn't block, 1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:52.360 he took the thing and and and just shielded up 1:25:52.400 --> 1:25:54.760 from going where she was trying to go smack this. 1:25:56.479 --> 1:25:57.680 Oh yeah, I hear she put it. 1:25:57.760 --> 1:26:00.000 I heard she went in jail, so that what happened. 1:26:00.600 --> 1:26:04.360 So after the big main label Joscelyn whatever that goes on. 1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:06.360 So my second I don't. 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:06.920 Get it right. 1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:09.439 You can't have like three out of it. 1:26:09.640 --> 1:26:11.920 I'm trying to tell you it's layer, this layer, because 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:16.320 it's too much. Today, I wake up and who I 1:26:16.360 --> 1:26:18.719 believe to be is jong Gott his daughter or granddaughter? 1:26:18.840 --> 1:26:20.920 I don't know. I can't confirm, nor than. 1:26:20.800 --> 1:26:21.880 I his daughter. 1:26:23.200 --> 1:26:25.719 She threatens Floyd's daughter. 1:26:26.160 --> 1:26:28.400 Right, not only does she threatened Floyd's daughter, who has 1:26:28.479 --> 1:26:30.880 nothing to do with none of this event. 1:26:31.360 --> 1:26:33.360 He was at the November She wasn't on those stage. 1:26:33.400 --> 1:26:35.479 She had her son, She literally had her baby. 1:26:35.479 --> 1:26:38.840 Floyd came out with his grandson, the first time people 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:41.800 actually had a picture of physically seeing his grandson. He 1:26:41.840 --> 1:26:44.200 came out, walked to the stage with his grandson. So 1:26:44.200 --> 1:26:47.040 his daughter is deal with a grandson. This lady decides 1:26:47.080 --> 1:26:52.040 to go on to social media threatened their daughter, calling 1:26:52.400 --> 1:26:56.439 them zoo animals. And I'm trying to figure out what 1:26:56.479 --> 1:26:59.280 did Dad have to do with anything? You know, like 1:26:59.439 --> 1:27:04.000 we did this this underlying racism of you know, the 1:27:04.080 --> 1:27:06.519 zoo animals she had a baby with an animal, and 1:27:06.560 --> 1:27:09.479 they all zoo animals, and you know, and and it 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:13.280 was really sad because now it turns into something else. 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:15.800 You know that that those were two people who got 1:27:15.880 --> 1:27:18.200 to a situation. There were two camps, this and that. 1:27:18.520 --> 1:27:22.240 Now you you got this racially motivated because I see 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:24.120 a bunch of black people like, yo, this ain't going 1:27:24.200 --> 1:27:26.120 down like that. Like I don't get for I don't 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:28.000 know what the fuck you calling zoo animals and this 1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:30.280 and that, and now it turns into a racial thing 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:32.120 that didn't have, So I don't want to get. I 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:34.840 don't get what she thought she was doing with that. 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:37.320 I don't even get how you thought you was even 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:39.160 getting involved with that girl. She'd had nothing to. 1:27:39.200 --> 1:27:39.639 Do with it. 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:43.240 I thought that what would you know what was said 1:27:43.280 --> 1:27:46.439 on behind the scenes. But regardless, I thought that one 1:27:46.600 --> 1:27:49.840 Gotty was a nickname. No, I don't even know that 1:27:49.920 --> 1:27:53.640 the Gotti family still was doing anything. So this, you know, 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:58.800 I I recognize that eyes Mika Mallory am not in 1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:01.000 the I don't even know what's going on, So I 1:28:01.200 --> 1:28:01.639 get it. 1:28:02.120 --> 1:28:03.120 But that's what I thought. 1:28:03.439 --> 1:28:07.120 So that's first second of all, I thought that these 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:09.719 people were which still would have been bad. 1:28:09.800 --> 1:28:12.720 But I thought they were like LATINX. 1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:16.920 Folks, Latinos who were using the Gotti as like you know, 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:19.760 I'm giant Gotti, like you know, I'm a killer like 1:28:19.880 --> 1:28:20.759 type of things. 1:28:21.160 --> 1:28:21.800 So the fine. 1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:24.000 So then I so I asked the question on shape 1:28:24.040 --> 1:28:28.080 room because I really seriously wanted to know is the 1:28:28.240 --> 1:28:28.920 woman white? 1:28:28.920 --> 1:28:30.880 Because I see the woman, she looks like she's white. 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:33.480 But I, of course we know a lot of Latinos 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:37.880 that they look they can pass their white passing. So 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:42.320 I asked the question, and within seconds there are hundreds 1:28:42.360 --> 1:28:45.679 of people like, yes, that she is white as snow 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:50.360 and Italian and this is, you know, really a John 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.160 Gotti family member. And I'm like, oh, this is really 1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:57.080 like not okay, Like you can't just call people zoo animals. 1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:57.880 That shit is bad. 1:28:59.080 --> 1:29:00.000 You can't call black people. 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:02.479 When did they take this? She take it down? 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:04.880 Or you don't know, I have no idea, haven't you know, 1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:05.799 I haven't been. 1:29:05.680 --> 1:29:07.760 I just seen you wouldn't know how to find her. 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:08.240 Try. 1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:11.400 It's just it's just it's it's unfortunate, man, you know, 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:13.760 for the you know, shout out to Floyd for he 1:29:14.120 --> 1:29:17.280 went out there and and and showed why he's, you know, 1:29:17.439 --> 1:29:20.720 arguably the greatest boxer ever lived. He went out there 1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:23.360 and treated this man like what he was. 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:26.479 He was like, did you think you were gonna win 1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:26.840 the fight? 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:29.840 But the thing is not even I just think I 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:31.040 would think that you're gonna fight. 1:29:33.600 --> 1:29:36.400 Else happened, Something else happened you. It's gonna come out, 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:37.519 I promise you. 1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:40.000 Is there some more details here that have been left 1:29:40.000 --> 1:29:41.479 out of the public distance if. 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:44.040 That was left out? Is this right, Floyd? I think 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:45.920 what happens is this Floyd is tired. 1:29:46.160 --> 1:29:50.599 He thinks that it's really sad that and the guys 1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:57.519 at MM a fighter you know, the second boxing match, 1:29:57.600 --> 1:30:01.400 and you know, he feels like people disrespect the sport 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:01.920 of boxes. 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:04.240 You know, you got these YouTube boxes. 1:30:04.640 --> 1:30:06.680 You got people that just think they're gonna come from 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:09.120 MMA and they gonna fight him and get in the ring. 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:11.320 And if I can make fifty to sixty million to 1:30:11.360 --> 1:30:14.400 beat you up and the MUNI humiliate you, then I'm 1:30:14.400 --> 1:30:14.800 gonna do it. 1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:16.120 And i'ma and I'm gonna do it. 1:30:16.439 --> 1:30:18.719 While I do it, I'm gonna show you the skill 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:21.280 set that it takes to be where I'm at. And 1:30:21.400 --> 1:30:24.680 I and I'm gonna beat you up and embarrass you 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:28.320 for even wanting to challenge me. But thinking that you 1:30:28.439 --> 1:30:30.920 in the realm that you could get on live TV 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:34.599 and challenge somebody like me who has established something, it's 1:30:34.760 --> 1:30:37.479 actually disrespectful, you know what I'm saying. I think that's 1:30:37.520 --> 1:30:40.080 I think that's the mind frame that look Floyd is 1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:42.320 coming from at this point or you So, y'all, y'all 1:30:42.320 --> 1:30:44.880 got enough money, y'all gonna scream got e gotty, you know, 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:47.720 And he kept parting, he kept you know, he was 1:30:47.800 --> 1:30:50.120 helding him going gott ee gotty every round. 1:30:49.880 --> 1:30:52.040 Like yeah, scream gotty because it's like, what the fuck you? 1:30:52.040 --> 1:30:54.200 I think y'all think I became the best I've been 1:30:54.240 --> 1:30:57.040 fighting my whole life since I was ten and eleven years old. 1:30:57.040 --> 1:30:58.840 To let a nigga that just decide he gonna wake 1:30:58.920 --> 1:31:01.679 up tomorrow come here and beat me, Like, why would 1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:02.679 you even think that? 1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:03.320 You know? 1:31:03.360 --> 1:31:06.120 And I think that it's disrespectful to him. So that's 1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:06.679 what that's. 1:31:07.479 --> 1:31:10.479 What is the Boxing Commission called the Boxing Commission. 1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:12.599 Yeah, but this is a this is not even part 1:31:12.640 --> 1:31:16.040 of sanctus. These are what you call exhibitions. 1:31:16.479 --> 1:31:19.840 You know, somebody is over the exhibitions. 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:21.760 And the exhibition but it doesn't it doesn't count and 1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:24.880 just you know the ranking of the real boxing commissions. 1:31:24.920 --> 1:31:28.400 So there are certain elements that don't that you know, 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:32.680 you don't have to adhere to to you know, to 1:31:32.720 --> 1:31:34.040 be involved in these. 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:36.400 Where's the ball out going to come from? Like who 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:38.080 has to respond to is. 1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:41.600 The people who the Zeus network? Like I heard that 1:31:41.600 --> 1:31:42.799 there's network. 1:31:44.479 --> 1:31:48.960 I'm the same people that carrying that carry uh blue 1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:52.200 face and. 1:31:50.800 --> 1:31:55.400 They performing opening up him? 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:57.320 Who's that network? 1:31:57.960 --> 1:31:59.760 Why they got to do better? 1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:02.080 And the thing is this we like for me, it's 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:05.600 just like you blame them, no, but you it's not 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:07.280 so much that you can't blame them. 1:32:07.400 --> 1:32:08.880 I think what happens is this. 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:14.519 When you utilize and you try to profit off the 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:18.680 least in the bottom of the culture, right when you 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:23.479 don't give a fuck understand that where Kashan in blue 1:32:23.560 --> 1:32:25.960 Face all right now, Like that's not some. 1:32:25.920 --> 1:32:27.519 Shit that you even should want to explod. 1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:29.920 So the fact that you put them on the same 1:32:30.000 --> 1:32:32.479 stage as the same like you're looking for some level 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:36.080 of controversies. You know, people are tuning in because they like, oh, 1:32:36.120 --> 1:32:37.439 I know they don't even fuck with each other. They've 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:39.920 been back and forth. He's been disrespecting her this and that. 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:42.680 Maybe the baby mama is there, maybe the terms of 1:32:43.000 --> 1:32:46.120 you you you're hoping that there's a level of some 1:32:46.280 --> 1:32:50.880 type of controversy that's to pay attention, because yeah, you're 1:32:50.920 --> 1:32:51.960 looking for that energy. 1:32:52.280 --> 1:32:52.479 Right. 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:56.280 So just like when you bring Jocelyn, when you Jocelyn 1:32:56.400 --> 1:33:00.280 has been banned from every TV show they got, just 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:02.880 think about it. She's been banned from every love and 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:05.400 hip hop band to the other show that she just had, 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:08.320 They Got, the Other Fight, the College Here They Band. 1:33:08.720 --> 1:33:11.680 She's been banned from networks, whole networks. Is like, nah, 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:15.120 we're not fucking at all. And you decide that you're 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:17.760 gonna say, you know what, that's exactly what you want. 1:33:18.120 --> 1:33:24.200 We want the person that's so uncontrollable that that people 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:26.000 want to see it. And that means that you don't 1:33:26.000 --> 1:33:29.400 have really any standards. So now when she goes there 1:33:29.800 --> 1:33:33.439 and she acts like motherfucking Rambo and she's beating up 1:33:33.600 --> 1:33:37.559 everybody and jumping around, now they gonna sue her, and 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:39.639 they gonna sue you nice. 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:45.320 And what I will tell you what my final word is, 1:33:45.680 --> 1:33:46.960 they put her ass in jail. 1:33:47.000 --> 1:33:51.400 Today in jail. Last night, monkey all you want, but 1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:52.639 your ass is going to jail. 1:33:52.680 --> 1:33:55.240 Yeah, they're gonna put her in jail. Man, So you know, 1:33:55.880 --> 1:33:59.080 you know, once again, shout out to Floyd. And you know, 1:33:59.160 --> 1:34:01.879 I just think that we as a people there. 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:02.679 Ain't got our. 1:34:04.760 --> 1:34:05.040 Friend. 1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:08.960 But he with tm T, Yeah was there. Man, shout 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:10.960 out to bad is another one. Good brother, you know 1:34:11.000 --> 1:34:14.080 he was. He was respectful, you know, you know, I 1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:16.479 see and made sure he didn't get into no melee. 1:34:17.120 --> 1:34:18.360 You know he could have. 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:21.439 But that's this is a lot. 1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:22.479 It's a lot. Man. 1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:24.519 Shout out to my man p T. I see, I 1:34:24.560 --> 1:34:26.760 see all of you know, Floyd's people there. 1:34:27.360 --> 1:34:32.160 But right mm hmm, this is I mean, you know, 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:33.839 I am like hmm. 1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:38.120 I woke up and started scrolling and the shade room 1:34:38.200 --> 1:34:40.320 had a whole bunch of you know, they be ready 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:43.200 to put anything bad that happened. 1:34:43.560 --> 1:34:46.599 That's that's that's what this coach box telling you all 1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:47.160 about it. 1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:51.760 Culture cannot wait to expose the bottom of the ship 1:34:51.800 --> 1:34:56.080 that we dealing with, man, and unfortunately that's what we are. Man. 1:34:56.520 --> 1:34:59.440 And with that we come to the end of another episode. 1:34:59.520 --> 1:35:03.120 Shout out the good Reverend Doctor Mark Thompson for his 1:35:03.760 --> 1:35:06.479 expertise and everything. 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