WEBVTT - Adam Blackstone 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:14.800 Well, take valachi. We are the authority on all things 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:20.360 R and Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on? My name 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:26.400 is Tank and this the R and B money pod. Yeah, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:34.960 the authority, my my my on all things, all things 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:36.920 R and B. Let me tell you something. You know 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.360 what I'm saying. Our compella is fine, A compella is okay, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.200 it's cool. You know what I'm saying. You're standing alone? 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:43.760 Do you think flat foot? And you know what I'm saying, 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.120 a little microphone, no microphone? Do I get it? There's 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:52.640 something about that accompaniment, something about when that accompaniment is pristine, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.200 when it's when it's right, when it when it's custom. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.680 Huh but pristine, no accompaniment A couple of it. Nope, 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.400 to see. I think when it's Taylor made got to 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.520 be right to the to the song and to the 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.880 the range. But then to the artist is Taylor Mane 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.000 and did. I don't want to do no introduction. I 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.640 just want to get straight to the man himself, Mr 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:23.280 Adam Blackstone. Yeah, you want to sound you want sound good, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.840 sound good, you want to tap in with B B. 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.119 Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.920 Come on now, this this was this is when I 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.400 knew or yeah, I mean you you've always been special, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.200 but when this is when I knew you were special? 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.480 Special man, when I came, when I came to the 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.680 j T concert, and come on, do the initials over here, man, 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.200 everybody who I'm sorry when I came to the Justin Timberlake, 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:56.120 HU give you your flowers? No, I'm getting you your flower. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.960 We gotta say, if you're right, you're right, you ain't 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.960 wrong when I came to the Justin timber Lake concert, 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:08.400 because you were empting overseeing, uh, the entire musical dichotomy, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:14.519 and and I felt like you gave, you gave justin 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.639 the moment that he had probably been searching for for 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:23.560 a long time. It's interesting, man. His music speaks to 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.040 all of us and always has. I think it was 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.000 something about the different swag that I was able to 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.640 bring from church, from soul music and then just being 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.760 a hip hop head. But he's the thing, he's he's 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.040 a soul singer for sure, right, he got he gets 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:45.680 his pop off, he does. But he's so when you 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.160 went to when y'all went to drink you away, I 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.919 can't drink you away, right, that's right, young fella, yeah, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:55.600 let me tell you something. To take it to that 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.560 four car. Let me tell you something. When you went 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.840 to that place and he got to getting to it 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.119 his bad, I felt like he wanted to shout, yeah 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:09.360 he got his Memphis. I felt like he went Baptistecostal. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:16.239 He wanted to shout. I said, oh my god, man, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.560 we um. That was one of them ones where he 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.320 played that record for me and I just heard tim beatbox. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:29.000 It's it's country by nature for sure. Originally. However, however, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.200 you throw a B three on that, it can take 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.920 you to a whole another place. Um. And so yeah, man, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.240 we we took it there. And and what I love 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.320 about him specifically is he embraces that side of who 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.360 he has around him. You know what I'm saying. We 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.720 can say it's culture, you know whatever we want to say, Um, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.080 that he might not have experience the way we have experienced. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.800 And when I bring it to him and feels fresh, 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.000 it feels new for his listener, even it feels fresh 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.000 and feels new, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.440 ain'tful to him. Man, He already know we actually you know, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.360 not to put the time stamp on it, but he 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.080 showed up at my last um sun Rose event, and 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.560 like just the fact that he embraces the culture and 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.560 like you know, gives gives us soul musicians, R and 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.040 B musicians, R and B singers, the flowers and it's like, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.120 you know, we appreciate you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:27.520 I lie for sure, sure, for sure that big just 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.400 like he's one of the ones, you know what I mean. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.880 There's so many others out there too, but him specifically, man, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.760 he loves to embrace that. So I'm thankful for because 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.200 he let me be me. Yeah I was. I was. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.080 I think I think I came to like six or sex. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:50.560 I was hanging out. Yeah, yeah, I don't know anybody, 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.360 you know what I mean, all of his humbleness when 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.520 he finds something that he rocked with, Yeah, like where 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.360 are you going? Yeah you know, Tony, I'm like, what 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.760 are you doing? Bro? You know i'd say something, say 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.800 something real candid too. The homie keeps around that upper 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.440 echel line, so it pushes him too. So that's a 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.520 testament to who you are to R and B. A 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.760 testament to who you are to him as well, because 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.599 it's like iron sharpens talk yeah, I was looking at 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:26.400 the best show like he's like, you gotta see it? Yeah, yeah, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.680 it was. It was special. I'm not a concert guy, yeah, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.200 but this was an experience. I can't. I can't, but 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.240 you know, I'm just not. I'm not the guy that's 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.400 a whole bunch of concerts. It's just never been my 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:42.880 thing because I think for me, I like to hear 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.600 it the way it was on the album. So sometimes 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.159 if they can't, if they don't recreate that for me, yeah, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:54.640 I get mad. Come to it. Adam Blackstone the third person. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.800 I'm gonna tell you something. I pride myself on making 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.839 that live experience is better than the album, and that's 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.599 hard to do. I'm not at all saying that. That's 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.320 just what I do, and it's that no, no, no, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.520 especially because those ten thousand and twelve thousand thousand people 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.640 in there are there because they like the record. If 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:22.080 I can give somebody a moment to hear when we 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.760 or slow in a different way where they're like, that 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.280 makes me want to go and listen to the record 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.240 even more. That's what that's that's that's that's what I 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:37.680 pride myself on. So it's a fine line people what 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:43.600 they're absolutely familiar with and then got to take them 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.120 on the ride because there's the thing I like to 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.800 tap into two and we can talk about this crazy, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.520 But where was your mindset as an artist making this record, 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.760 because a lot of talented singers and musicians and producers 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:01.120 specifically have to bring themselves back to make a record 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.440 that's audible for the listener where it's not too too crazy. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.560 But you might want to go there, you know, I 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.720 see you sitting you know when we I was just saying, 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.760 saying at the piano in the house and all that, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.880 It's like, you can go there. But when you just 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.440 laying it for an eight bar phrase, we gotta kind 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.760 of think about what it is. So my opinion, whether 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.920 it's me tapping in with Janet, me tapping in with re, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.720 me tapping in with Drake, it's like, like, where would 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.840 you when you're making the record in your hands full champagne? Wow, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:38.200 he's because it wasn't. I didn't do that ONCT was 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:45.200 actually really nicknames chad At not the whole name. Not 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:52.440 if you're nasty, not bro. Let's you know, let's go 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.960 back to the beginning. Yes, let's go back to where 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.640 all of this started absolutely you know what I'm saying. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.920 Born in Jersey. Yeah, my player partner from tring to 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.480 man Dante Jones's let me tell you how much, Um 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.200 we just was talking about him, man, new Jersey basketball legend. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.640 Straight up, they're gonna say all that on here because 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:21.040 then they're gonna be seeing fun. He got the championship. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.080 That shout out to my guy brought me the championship. Bocha. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.400 It's a little more personal though, because this is one 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.480 of my best friends in the world where literally but 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:39.080 his championship came against my hometown Golden State. Boy. Oh yeah, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.839 and he played a part. He played a major. They 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.760 put his ass in the game and he started doing 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:48.240 dirty ship and sucking people up and I'm cussing at 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:56.880 the TV sitting rightdom smiling. Yeah he that so he 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.640 knew Jersey now it Jersey basketball and I'm trying to 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.240 see the Clippers at night, like you might need to 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:08.160 make that call from me right here coaching. Yeah, um, alright, cool. Yeah. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.000 And so born in Jersey, my family, my my father, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.040 church organists, and what you would deem now today as 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.560 like a one man band, like um wedding band. Guy, 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.679 we didn't call it that, you know, back in the 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.240 eighties nineties, but like you know, as I look back 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.120 and even talk about it a lot, he wasn't the 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.640 first musical director that I've seen, because when you in 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.760 that in that wedding band scene, you hit one hundred 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.760 vpms and you just you electric slide, you chat your slide, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.400 you you doing all the songs that just you know, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.360 get the people going. So it's like I saw him 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.040 curate setlists like in his head all the time and 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.840 just moving based off of what the people were doing. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.520 Um as at an early early age. When I moved 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:53.640 to Philadelphia in thousand for college, that changed my life 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:59.000 culturally because I had never seen, um the impact of 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:04.400 soul music in the culture of a city, Like a 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:10.199 song means so much to a surrounding area and then 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.920 in turn the song whoever sang that song, those people 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.720 are held to a higher echelon in that area too. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:21.640 So UM met the roots crew in Philly and then 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.959 you know, my life, how do you run into the roots? Well? No, 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:31.760 so I was the guy, you know, just playing everywhere, clubs, sessions, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.559 jazz club I was doing everything. I was in college too, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:35.800 So I was like you know, who's gonna give me 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.520 thirty five dollars? Who don't give me the fifty dollars, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.800 we'll talk. I'm pulling up church, different churches, all of that, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.480 and so ran into what were you making a church? 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.600 We know because we talked about with Tank made the church. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.800 We're still trying to figure out what's Tank being. It 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:53.320 depends if I played with my dad, I made Daddy. Yeah, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.199 if I played just take this. So what was your 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.000 main instrument in church? Was drums to drums? Yeah, because 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.040 we don't have a bass player, you know, like that 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:10.640 that was if you had a bass player, Yeah, for sure, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:15.880 it was Oregon piano drums. That's it. If you're left 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.319 foot or that's a flaw. Oh yeah. And if you 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.320 went to a church with a base player and a 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.360 guitar player, that you're a mega church. Yeah, you're you're 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.599 a mega church. You got over eleven hundred members, you 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.920 got two services. Yeah. So, um, I played drums at 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.800 church all my life. You know, my uncle played drums 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.679 at a different church. And then all my you know, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.120 role music role models in Jersey played drums. And so 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.120 just to take us step back when we moved to 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:53.079 a different town. Older white gentleman band director at my 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:58.600 school said, listen, candidly, he said, all the black kids 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.120 want to play drums. I know your family. We have 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.840 a void in the school for a bass player for sure. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.160 Second grade, Mr Matt Lack, you can't say that in 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.120 this day. He can't say that, he said, all the kids. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.160 But I knew what he meant. Like I went to 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.920 you know, urban, I was in a primarily permanent No, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.920 I was in a black community. So all the kids 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.880 want to play drums. He's right, I know your family. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.079 I heard about y'all. You know your dad's a musician. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.440 We don't have a bass player. And I was like, hell, no, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.960 I'm not caring this. We used to walk to school. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.079 You'll remember that. Remember that we used to walk to school. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.199 So he had me this instrument that long right there 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.800 in the case. I said, I'm not walking to school 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.600 with that. I want the sticks. I'm bringing my sticks. 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.240 Best decision I ever made second second grade, never forget, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:56.839 and started playing a little stand by me Doo doo doo, doom, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:01.960 doom doom, Like learning now, okay, then I'm learning you know, bills, bills, bills, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:06.480 and uh, you know beat me nine one one in 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:11.440 the second grade. This kind of in the second grade. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:18.679 No no, no, no, you know what I'm saying, you know, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.160 um um. And then as we you know, that's a 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.640 that spanned some years. But I was like, okay, I 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.760 can get into this. And it made me different. It 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.520 did like everybody wanted to do that thing on the 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.240 drums or that thing on whatever, you know, to be 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.719 the only guy playing bass. I took pride in that, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.920 and I was like, I want to be great, and 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.800 you know, that set my journey off to go to 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.280 University the Arts in Philadelphia, and I moved to the 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.239 Philly in two thousand, was doing all the gigs around town, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:55.360 a base, any and everything you play upright, So at 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.160 that time, now I'm playing both. Because I also realized 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.240 when I saw the bass players as I got older 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.920 at church, a lot of them didn't read music and 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.240 I didn't have the skill set as good as them 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.840 at that moment, So how could I differentiate myself? So 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.400 I really started like really honing in on the ink 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:19.440 and like really reading. Yeah, so that that's I'm going 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:25.880 to say, ironically enough, it's fifty fifty now my gigs 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.560 today because that's why I'm able to do movie scores, 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.840 That's why I'm able to write the charts out for 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.440 Soul Train Awards, Horns players or I'm doing that. I 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.160 just did the Oscars. I had to score for sixty 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.160 piece orchestra, like I wouldn't be able to do that 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.440 without learning how to read music at all. This whole 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:49.800 episode is going to be flawed. No, this is Fowers 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:58.440 except the musicians. First. You have to accept except except 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:06.480 ship Come on, I wanted out to be at to 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.040 read music. I can't, But you want to encourage every 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.840 musician out there is never too late. Yea. It sets us, 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.680 it sets us apart from the ceiling that you have. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.360 That's all. Not that you're gonna play any better or 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.520 but there's more, but it's just more that I watch. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.960 I would watch um, I would watch Tim Carmen, Yes, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:38.120 Tim Carmen. I will watch Tim Carmen coming. And he's 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.440 he's a he's a rare one because you know, with 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:48.120 piano it's tough to be to be gifted and studied 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:54.400 and be able to live in both worlds. Like he's 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.960 very much. He can very much do Eric Clapton and 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:06.400 then go to evangelistic Church of the Children and Easy Easy, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.120 and everybody in both areas be like, oh my, and 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.120 then and then go play with Kendrick or Future or 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:17.880 what yeah, and and and what made me really? I mean, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.400 I've known him from the house, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.960 But when we were doing that dream Girl soundtrack, he 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.960 would just they would just throw that sheet in front 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:30.080 of it and he would just get active, and I'm 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.080 like and so that was a big part of my 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.280 evolution as a college bass player because I was playing jazz, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.640 got a jazz scholarship. But then my walking baseline felt 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.200 like I was playing shot with music. So they was like, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.000 what is that? Ain't really what we normally used to 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 but he moving in and out them changes like something 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.240 is different to me, that was normal. I'm gonna be 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.920 completely honest, not to like from learning from your father, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:03.080 learning from my learning from the culture. So it was like, Okay, 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.280 I see B flat major seven, I know what those 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.240 notes are, and i know I'm going to G and 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.399 I'm like, Okay, then I'm gonna go to the flat. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.320 I'm like, oh, that's all that is. Victory is mine. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.240 But it's like it's somebody playing a head over a 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.960 jazz head over top of it. I'm like, oh, I'm 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.200 gonna move in and out of it's different, and they're 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.600 like yo. Like so then that propelled me within the 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.280 structure of my school, like he just played different, like 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.080 it's right, but it's like it ain't nothing we really 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.680 heard specifically from an adolescent, not that bass players weren't 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.399 doing that, but at my age and where I was 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.399 at school. Um So, reading music has helped me do 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.200 continuously today, help me do so so much. I'm able 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.920 to juggle three, four or five gigs because I can 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.199 write it down and then forget it and forget it 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.159 and forget it and get right back to it, forget it. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.960 I don't have to internalize when you're learning a something 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.320 on it takes a different type of brain power to 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.480 be like, when I play it again, I have to 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.520 remember what I just did. When that ink is on 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.640 the paper and it's telling you see to f It's like, okay, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.080 I know how to muscle memory, read through them changes, 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.919 and then boom, Thank Jay Valentine's segment is over. I 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.879 gotta get to this Mars Day segment. Boo and me 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.320 turn the page. You know what I'm saying, okay, Bloom, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.360 Morris Day is over, Boom, let me go do so 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:30.760 you so you wrote out slow for sure, string parts 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:35.520 and everything. Yeah, I mean, you know, like for the 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.600 you know when Nearly came and did the John and 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.919 it's like, we're gonna embellish and all of that. I 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.680 gotta write it for the band. When you send me 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:45.760 the arrangement, you know what I mean, I'm like, this 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.560 is what it is. This is how we embellish it. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.280 Put the horns on top of it, all that. It's 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.280 it's because we're moving so fast. You know, I'm saying, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.600 you approve of this? Cool? You know what I'm saying. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.359 Next thing, you know what I mean, we got to 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:05.800 I would to see the music should four four times 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.520 and put it up on something because right because bro, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:15.320 conversation around all of that, y'all smashed. It's nuts. Thank 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:20.600 y'all smash some Some of my favorite, you know, R 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.959 and B moments have been we had some good your 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:30.480 your your win, we win. It's still it's still in show, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:36.200 still in show. Yeah, that's one of the ones I 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.000 don't want to have to do. Yeah, you want to life. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.160 You come to my show right now and you will hear, 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.800 you will hear your job. Yeah, you gotta do that 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:51.239 for the shout out. Shout out Terence Vaughan even on 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.919 your program Man just crazy even. I think the Cornish 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.879 helped with with with um slow oh yeah yeah and 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.400 shout out going to call on on the string arrange 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.399 as well. But as we bring it together that I 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.040 had to trust you on that because Tank sent it 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:14.240 to me because like I said, I'm very much the 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:19.560 album guy, but very much let me be transparent. We 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:24.199 wasn't about sketch five before we liked where because I 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.520 had to because because it was like I was like, 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.600 we need the song for sure, but in these moments, 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.840 but it just needs moments, right and it needs something 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.240 over top floating over top of it to make it, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.240 to make it the experience that you know, no one's 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.520 ever no one's ever had before with the song. But 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.320 then we got to get to a place like so 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.560 when those last eight bars like called I hit I 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.280 want this and I played that this is what I want. 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.200 We have to go so much when he said this 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:03.159 is what I want, he makes a video. If he 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.359 makes a video of him at the piano and saying this, 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:11.879 whatever the instrumentation is base keys, get strength. This is 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:15.920 what I want. I love that about you and other 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.440 artists where it's just like it's let me translate what 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:24.880 you want in the best way structurally possible for our band. Man, 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.359 you know what I mean, because there's no guessing. It's like, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.040 my job is to make it better. To make it 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.320 better your idea. That was my That was my issue 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:44.359 in the beginning. But because I'm not I don't play, 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:50.760 so I don't have the two talented moments y'all get 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.439 too talented. Just it's just reality. There were moments you 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.640 know that I had learn about that. Just get too 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.760 talented because you're getting your ship off. I only got 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.960 so much ship I look at it. But it's the 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.800 way to get it off and for the people to 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.760 be like, I'm getting off too by hearing that. Right. 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.560 So he sends me, sends me to MP three and 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:17.440 I'm like this niggad and turned slow into a Disney song. 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:24.240 Just the first thing I said Disney, I said, Man, 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:28.840 were fucking the Disney ship. These niggas gonna boom me. 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.520 I'm like, nigga, I ain't been on stage. This nigga 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.239 got me out here and singing a Disney song. This 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.120 nigga is trying to ruin me before I get back. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.919 But the way the way I structured it is I 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.720 made sure that he could he could he could just 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.160 stay where he would navigate. Everything would dance around him. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.119 So here's the other thing, just about television in general. 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.760 We can talk about this a whole another day. When 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:57.560 we are creating those musical moments, there's a visual that 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:02.000 has to match. Agreed. This man, I hate to say 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:03.919 it like this. I hope I don't get in trouble. 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:08.600 Has been a part of some amazing men to women's 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:14.840 visual moments than I had to be safe. He introduced 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:20.640 us to some people we we ain't know before, Joey 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:26.400 and some some some moments with these strings where it's like, yes, 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.080 they're playing this thing, but it's erotic and it's sexy, 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:33.000 and we pushed, we pushed the envelope behind. Man, it 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:38.000 is I just you know, that's like I said the 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.359 wrong time. Yeah, you gotta be politically correct. This is 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:46.359 my motherfucker show two different things. She did pole work 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:50.320 and she's a pole dancer. Yeah, it's almost a professional 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:55.840 poll arenasion I respected? So is that like a singer 0:23:55.840 --> 0:24:00.000 and a singer. No, no, no, no, she's a she's 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:05.360 a No. I respect it though, I respected. What I'm 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.639 saying is so I'm gonna go back. We're gonna run in. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.760 I'm going back to say when we're creating those moments, 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.040 whether that be for y'all or whether that be for 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.879 any artists. Like there's also for television, there's a visual 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.600 thing that goes with it too. So those accents and 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.679 those hits that he was hearing in his head or 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.560 that I might put a impact on or something like that, 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.919 we know them lights is gonna go crazy. We know 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.760 that depth. You know what I mean. Show me what 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:39.560 you do with that drop? Yeah? Okay, that that far. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.560 So it's like, you know what I mean. So that 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.480 I'm like, I'm looking at it as moving at it. Yeah, 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.720 So I'm I'm seeing the movie player. Yeah it's a movie. Yeah. 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:52.680 Because I'm saying, I see the set, I see the lights. 0:24:52.640 --> 0:25:00.440 I'm getting this TV. So I'm like, I'm like, once 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.480 it gets to him, it's gonna really get. It's gonna 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.040 really get aggressive what I'm saying. And we and I'm like, 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.240 I see it. All clear is dead. It was there 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.320 and it was. It was okay, so let's go back. 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.399 Let's let's let's go back. Okay, So you art school, 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.240 you can read. You, you're hitting the streets of Philly. 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:24.480 You're going crazy, rosy and how how and what was 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.160 that open mic night at a spot called the five 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.320 Spot we used to go to in Philly and at 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:36.400