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Speaker 1: is Tank and this the R and B money pod. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the authority, my my my on all things, all things

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Speaker 1: to see. I think when it's Taylor made got to

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Speaker 1: his bad, I felt like he wanted to shout, yeah

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Speaker 1: was called the Okay Player Crew and so um. They

423
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: used to go on the road and do with these

424
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: hubs of touring shows. They asked me to go as

425
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: a young, you know, adolescent kid. But it was, you know,

426
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: for the local and I don't want to say local,

427
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: but like it was the underground, full underground, like real talk,

428
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Jay Z then decides he

429
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: wants to do Unplugged and hired the Ruts and hired

430
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: the Roots. I actually didn't, so I didn't play Unpluged,

431
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: But so what happened was the route. I wasn't a route,

432
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: but the Roots the band did unplug and Jay said

433
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: that was so good. Let's take it on tour and

434
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Maddison Square Garden and we're gonna call

435
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: it Fade the Black. It's gonna be my last album,

436
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: he said, it's my last album. It's j last, It's encore,

437
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That was my first big gig.

438
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: You're going the road j Z it do oh three

439
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: as twenty years ago. So I was. I was through

440
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: rehearsal process. I meet this guy um just kind of

441
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: around producer Pink Polo Shirt. You know, he says, Yo,

442
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: when this is over, you should come rock with me.

443
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: You know, I got some stuff popping. I got my

444
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm putting my album out myself. You know,

445
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna help me. You know. I was like,

446
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, I got you. You know, let's

447
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: let's connect after this over Kanye West, Right, I go

448
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: on tour with Kanye. We do this thing called to

449
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Go on the Dark Tour, which arguably is one of

450
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: the top five shows I don't mind saying. Ever, he

451
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: had a spaceship on the stage. It didn't work at first, right,

452
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Like it was like issues with it, like it was

453
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: a whole thing with the major issues. But his vision

454
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: was his vision. He wanted the alien, he wanted spaceship.

455
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: He wanted to ban in the pit like it was Broadway.

456
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: It was this thing that was my job to curate

457
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: that through working with Kanye. I met this girl from Barbados,

458
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: she kind of opening for us here and there, and

459
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: it's like, Jay, it's like, yo, you know, I'm gonna

460
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: sign this new artist whatever. We're donna cut her hair

461
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: and she's real cute whatever. They come out with him brother, right,

462
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: So it's really so it's like I end up working

463
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: with Re after Kanye because she's opening with us, you know,

464
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: through Re and me at this amazing light skinned Canadian

465
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: boy who like rap sing I had never heard anything

466
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: like it at the time, and I'm just like he's like, yo,

467
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, after you don't really like come rock with me.

468
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, I got some stuff. Ends up being Drake,

469
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Through Drake, we got this

470
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: kid from North Carolina on the tour with us opening.

471
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Had no idea he was. We just would watch him nightly.

472
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: He just wrapped so good named Ja Cole. Right. So

473
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: then that's the case. And then I meet Jermaine Dupree

474
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: at the at the Drake show. He says at the time,

475
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: he's like, my girlfriend's going on tour like he needs

476
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: he needs And I was like, oh, yeah, call me,

477
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm a huge fan of

478
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: JD so So Deaf has been influential in my R

479
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: and B path. Janet Jackson, this is Girls. So they

480
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: called me on three ways like yeah, we went to

481
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: see the Drake Show and Kanye Show and it's cool.

482
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: And when I started working with Janet, she had the

483
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: same manager as my good brother justin timber Lake. So

484
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, when Janet's done, I want you to

485
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: meet my other client at the time. You know what

486
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so that's just the way God works, man.

487
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: And it's like I've done hundreds of things in between

488
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: all of that. But I say that through line to inspire.

489
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: Did you work on that infamitue super Bowl? I did

490
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: not work on that early super Bowl. I did not.

491
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not. No, I did not.

492
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: But I say that through line to inspire because I

493
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: speak about, you know, relationships and how the relationship equity

494
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: is sometimes more than any monetary value that I could

495
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: ever deposit to myself. Um, I don't mind saying I

496
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: could call y'all, y'all gonna pull up for me. We're

497
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna sing a song and we're gonna kill it. But

498
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: you know that I protect you all as an artist

499
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, I protect the integrity of the music. And

500
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: I've been able to do that for my twenty year career,

501
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: so that when I do make an album like my

502
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: album Legacy, and I call Queen Latif or I call

503
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin, or I call Mary Mary or Leslie Oldham Jr.

504
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, whatever you need, You've sewn into me

505
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: so much that I want to give this back to

506
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: you because I can't afford their performance or you know

507
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you know, we we if we're

508
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: talking numbers, I'm just being honest, it's a different type

509
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: of currency. So I've always tried to be a nice person.

510
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I know that sounds so simple, but there's a lot

511
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: of unnice niggas out there for sure. Yeah, And so

512
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: I've always tried to have integrity and respect for the music. Uh,

513
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: not do too much, you know for somebody who likes

514
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: just the album, do enough for somebody that's gonna get

515
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: that special get out of it, and then also at

516
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: the same time make an impact for the consumer so

517
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: that the artist is like, I want those people to

518
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: feel that way again, who did that about my music?

519
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: My career has been who did that? Straight up and

520
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I never even said that out of my mouth before,

521
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: but it's like who did that? Who did you? Who

522
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: did that? Who did Janet? Who did that? Who did

523
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: justin like you know what I'm saying, Like that's my resume,

524
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: That's how I get so yeah, and so I'm really

525
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: thankful about that, you know what I mean, because like

526
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, my name is in rooms that I don't

527
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: even know sometimes based off of being good work, not

528
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: based off of any and being a great person, but

529
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: and trying to be a great person always. But well,

530
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: I think being a great person is like the icing

531
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: on the cake, right because you know, in in our

532
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: in our world, you know what I mean, people will

533
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: people will accept if you do good work, whatever comes

534
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: along with work to the working working. So people will

535
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: accept a gang of foolishness and bullshit if the work

536
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: is But there's there's an extra measure umn of of

537
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: what do you say, um of longevity that goes with

538
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: being a good person. That's it, man, that's it. And

539
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: then you know surrounding I've realized that a lot of

540
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: my favorite artists have longevitycause they're good people. So if

541
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at how to sustain I look at Verdine

542
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: and White. I look at Philip Belly, I look at

543
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Terry. Wow. Yeah, not that, I not that.

544
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: I know. They ain't got no enemies like you know, man,

545
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I know, but I mean, like my

546
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: relationship and seeing their relationships with people. I'm sure they

547
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: didn't knock somebody bried back in the day when they

548
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, Lord Jesus ants at the base

549
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: sit somewhere that don't look at Listen, listen, you can't

550
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: be mad at let her get that off. Yeah, that's

551
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: but what you're saying, absolutely right there, Yeah, absolutely right man.

552
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: It's been cool and good person. Yeah, it's been really

553
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: cool to see the evolution. And then now you know,

554
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: the young kids. It's funny I'm calling them kids, but

555
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: it's like we're the O G s now right. They're

556
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: taking what I've done and just like it's scary the

557
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: limitless potential that they have musically. Now, what I'm trying

558
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: to do is teach them how to be people persons,

559
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: because a lot of that is that too. When you

560
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: get on the phone with Jay or you get on

561
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: the phone with a tank, it's like, how do you

562
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: convey your idea without it sounding like you're being forceful,

563
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: without it sounding like you don't know really what you're

564
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: talking about, and some bullsh You know what I'm saying,

565
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: And it's fluff, but like standing what you know, standing

566
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: your your gift, but but conveyed polite. You know what

567
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a lot. You know, I think I'm

568
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna be completely honest. I sound old, but I think

569
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: social media has, you know, really ruined the one on

570
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: one relationship contact from artists to worker or co worker

571
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: or you know what I mean, producer, you know, people

572
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: sending beats and all of that. It's like when you

573
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: get in the room, so I'm in that special magic

574
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: from back in the day, the nineties, all that it

575
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: was in their room, in the room, yo, in the room,

576
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: you could just hear you like you'd be walking imagine walking,

577
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: I not even imagine, y'all know it walking through record plan. Yeah,

578
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: and somebody purposely is leaving their door open so you

579
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: can hear purposely or even the collaboration process. Right, it's

580
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: like you know all the musicians and I know that

581
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: played on the Timberland records. You know what I'm saying,

582
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, my one of my great great friends,

583
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: Daddy is Trippett's like he played based on Crime River

584
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: and then Tie Trippet sang on Crimeate River. And I

585
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: know that one of the reasons that happened is being

586
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: in the room. Know what I'm saying. He ain't right

587
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: there and say there's a choir part that I want

588
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, it's like yos like

589
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: you know what would be crazy crazy? Yes, there it

590
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: is magic magic, it's magic like that, and that that

591
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: is one of the things that I think we missed

592
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: because even verbalizing as a producer that just sent might

593
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: send a beat or something what you think would enhance

594
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: the record, you know what I mean without being in

595
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: the room. You know, so what do you what the gig?

596
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Do you feel like? I mean it was a really

597
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: crazy domino effect? Um? Which gig? Do you feel like

598
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: you really really got the flex on? Like really got

599
00:36:54,120 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: to go crazy? Like in terms of just yeah, I

600
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: think it was that and that that seemingly is newish

601
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: is ten years old now, so maybe it's okay I

602
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: met J T. Christmas ten years today. Yeah, imagine justin

603
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Um and then we did Legends of the

604
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: Summer after that, which was jay Z and and Justin together,

605
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: which was crazy. I think I flexed on that, like

606
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the times work where

607
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I was able to be in front of white and

608
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: black audience simultaneously and they both sets of cultures, ages,

609
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: genders were like, this is crazy because you always can't

610
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: make everybody. You can't make everybody happy. You know, some

611
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: of my best work that I personally think it's my

612
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: best work, some people don't like it, you know what

613
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That was one of the first moments Legends

614
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: of the Summer with jay Z and Justin where it

615
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: was like you got we got it off for every

616
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: for everybody, for everybody, the hood, the lawyers, doctors, you

617
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: know at that time, in sync fans were thirty five

618
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: plus Jay fans range any age. And then like Justin

619
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: was coming out with a joint suit and tie and

620
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: then it was like, you know, then they was doing

621
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Holy Grail. Was just like this child we got off,

622
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and then I did Sinatra in the in the middle

623
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: of the show, he did New York, New York, going

624
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: into New York, jay Z record, You know what I'm saying,

625
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: so it was like I wouldn't say, I gotta send

626
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: that to you, bro, jay Z Justin is called Legends

627
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: of the Summer. It's top five easy for me. Easy

628
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: because I got it. I got it all off. I

629
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: got to get my hip hop rocks off. I love

630
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: pop music. People know that I gotta get that. I

631
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: got to get that off. I got to get the

632
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: soul thing off. It was everything. It was all inclusive. Um.

633
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's the one I think that you know

634
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: for me? Was was it ten years ago? But even

635
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: before that, Um, you know, Kanye Going the Dark really

636
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: established my m D career and that I knew leaving

637
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: that tour I could do anything. And being a musical

638
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: director is fifty one percent non musical, dealing with personalities,

639
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: you know who we're talking about, You know what I mean.

640
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: It's it was a lot for me, um and and

641
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: um dealing with ever changing sonic palette. He he went

642
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: from this college dropped out to we ending the show

643
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: on Stronger, you know, daft Pump. But then he went

644
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: through a phase during their unfortunately right I was there today,

645
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: his mom passed and he was going through some relationship things.

646
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: So he went love lockdown with it. So and then

647
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're importing these tycho drums from like Taiwan.

648
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: It's like doom doom, doom, doom, doom, doom doom, I'm

649
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: not loving you. So it's like we're going from like

650
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: a range of emotion. It's just a whole range of

651
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: psychedelic stuff, all being very transparent through it, through the music,

652
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so I ended that tour.

653
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: We done did three albums now, we don't did Graduation

654
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: eight oh eights, you know what I'm saying. And then

655
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: of course his first record, which you know, we intertwined

656
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: in there. So it was like it was crazy man,

657
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: Like I left that tour knowing that I could do anything.

658
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Funny story, you know, we walk into the stage. We

659
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: didn't sound check once. We was on tour for a while.

660
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: But he says, Yo Adam, I don't want to do

661
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: the second verse tonight to the Champion and it's like

662
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: five four three two, and I'm like, wait what. So

663
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: I run over to the pro tools. I just was

664
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: telling this story and I run over to the pro tools.

665
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: The show is starting. I'm like, you have to edit

666
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: with your eyes now, I'm like, okay, yes I did,

667
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: because I don't have been running back to the grid

668
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: just a seriously and how I'm like, okay, eight bars,

669
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm highlighting right, the show is starting on the other computer.

670
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: Delete those eight bars, put it together, jump back of

671
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: my stage and I said, band, we're taking a second

672
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: verse out. Whatever it was, eight bar, six bars, whatever,

673
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: it is, right, And then I just had to trust it.

674
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: I had to trust it. So you know, that's why

675
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: I say it's a lot of it is non musical.

676
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta trust yourself because they trust you.

677
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't got too many

678
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: mess ups, but that was a heart that was Did

679
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: you get through that? When I got Oh yeah, I

680
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: got I got through that. It was good. But also

681
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: it's like I'm really a student of the music too,

682
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: so it's like if I do, I know, I can

683
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: look at that file and be like, here's the verse.

684
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's also to like your uh, the people

685
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: who you empower your delegation process. For sure, only as

686
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: strong as my team m D is only as strong

687
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: as a team because you can try to do everything,

688
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: but it don't work like that, especially if I got

689
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: to go to choreography rehearsal. I gotta go to strings rehearsal,

690
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: I gotta go to home rehearsal. Like I have to

691
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: know that each department has their own self sufficiency um,

692
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: and that comes from me hiring them for sure. But

693
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like I gotta really figure out.

694
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: I had to figure out, like who I just trust

695
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: to say this is the edit, go ahead and do

696
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: it when I see you when I get back. And

697
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: one of your guys, we talk about you all the time,

698
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: Danny Chang, God is our guy. That's our guy, one

699
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: of the best in the world. I can text him

700
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: right now and say, take the second verse out of this.

701
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna go this. The pre hook gonna be four

702
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: bards and then I need to manage for name changed too,

703
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: though you know it's Chung. I'm sorry. My grandmother's maiden

704
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: name is Chang. That's me and he always had that. Danny.

705
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: I love you, Danny, I love you. We love you,

706
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: and you talking about how how and how you template

707
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, tune B G V bus Like, I'm like,

708
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: Y'll give me that tink bro stop that I need that.

709
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: That's what I want you know, he got it and

710
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: he's he's transcended a lot of people's music based off

711
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: of how y'all you know, I wasn't even around when

712
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: y'all was working like that are still working or whatever.

713
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: But um, he's been able to infiltrate his sound in

714
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: R and B specifically like straight up you know what

715
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: Danny mix Yo vote by the vocal. Last time I called,

716
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I need said, yeah, I'm just

717
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna man, Okay, let me let me, let me check

718
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: and see what I can do. Man, I'm about to

719
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: do this eminem you know what, don't I'm finding mars.

720
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Don't call me back. Just but but listen, that goes

721
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: back to saying he loved the music. Bro. He he

722
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: talks about Tank and R and B and Mary and

723
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: all the Merry records and talk about neo records. He's

724
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: done like he loves R and B music, yo, Like

725
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: straight yeah, he's been locked in for a while and

726
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: even you know, you know we're talking about the Asian

727
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: American here is like culturally, that just shows to me

728
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: how powerful our music is for sure. Period. It's not

729
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: a black thing. It's just it's just a thing. And

730
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: you know we can. We can argue all day that

731
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: going into three. We are pop music, straight up. I

732
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: don't mind saying that, you know what I mean. It

733
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: don't get said much, but I can the way I navigate,

734
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm able to do that. I see who's on the

735
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: b ET Awards and also on the v Maze. You

736
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. I see who's on TV one,

737
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: but also on the American Music Awards. You know what

738
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's not no, that's not no coincidence that

739
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Chloe Belly can navigate through Black Music Honors and also

740
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: go do vm a's You know what I'm saying. That

741
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: Normandy can come from television and beat on vm as

742
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: am as that Beyonce, you know what I mean, can

743
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: go do dream Girls but then do the BTT Awards,

744
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: but then she just did the Oscars. We are pop music.

745
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: They chase us straight up. I'm you know, this is

746
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: what it is. We said all the time, properly popular music,

747
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: that's all. Whatever is the most popular. You know, I'm

748
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: shout out to our brother, you know, takeoff man. But

749
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: like you know, like Me Goes is essentially the biggest

750
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: pop group of the decade period. Change the sound. I

751
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: don't care where they're from. I don't care what they

752
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: look like. Favorite group, it just is what it. Yeah,

753
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I look at things like that.

754
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: I look at what Dirk is doing. I look at

755
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: what Baby doing. It's like, how can you deny? You can't,

756
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: you can't deny it's global. Yeah. Global. You also tapping

757
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: my guy when I saw you with uh be more

758
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Brian Fraser man go work work, who played with me

759
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: last night? Yeah, he was there last night getting busy. Yes,

760
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know we go my ninety seven partner.

761
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: We both I laughed at both of y'all when he's like,

762
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: I'll do anything and that's my word, listen laugh at

763
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: But y'all, did y'all both have your shirts off? No?

764
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: He had because you know we nicknamed him the Tasmanian right,

765
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: and he had the stuff, the stuff and stuff and

766
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: what's crazy that you remember, you know, you go to

767
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Disney World and get the stuff animals They put us

768
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: in the front of his drum. Kid, he was he

769
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: was going that crazy everywhere y'all was. But he was like,

770
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: you like the Tasmanian devil you are, So it was

771
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: like it was crazy though he's so so dope. The

772
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: concept of what Tim was doing, he didn't have that

773
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: coming into rehearsal. Wow. So I think him and Johnny

774
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: Crane kind of collaborated on what it feels it sounds like,

775
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: and then he just went somewhere different. Added the sauce.

776
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: Junuine will be looking back at him like what is going?

777
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: And I'm a drummer too, so I'm looking back and

778
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: y'all never be able to You can't do that. I

779
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: was like, you can't do that. I help that helps

780
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: you pick your land backround. I played a little bit

781
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: of the kids. I would play bass like I played

782
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: drops that church with my dad, but I don't play

783
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: like that. He wanted them once and and and again.

784
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: You know Philly natives um coming from church and not

785
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: to even run his background down, but like when you

786
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: see him migrate to Atlanta and and do Genuine and Aaliyah,

787
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: but then get the call for Janet and Madonna. Right,

788
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: it's kind of like two fold where the foundation has

789
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: been laid because of this soul music that he's played

790
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: through church and through R and B. It allows you

791
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: to play come on vote that he playing that thing

792
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: like he out different controls, a different control man. He's

793
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: able to have those things and live and live in

794
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: it and be authentic. Let's get into the my day.

795
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: I want to get into your mom. You've been you've

796
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: been doing music on a high level. Top five, Oh,

797
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: top five, we want to know your top five? Top

798
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: five on top five, Top five R and B artists,

799
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: R B artists and then R and B song song, Oh,

800
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: your top five I'm not singing with Okay, we got five,

801
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm still controlling this ship. I want to

802
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: know he's still in the worship everybody right. You want

803
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: to you're at home? Where your fives in the air? Yeah?

804
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: Top five? Didn't I tell you about being too talents? Talents?

805
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: I want to know who was at home with the

806
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: five spread fingers, top five R and B artists of

807
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: all time of man, female, mix them together, whatever you

808
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: want to do, Joe to see. You're gonna start there.

809
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the problem is I'm nasty because

810
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: I used to fall asleep with fiending in my ears

811
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: when I when I was a kid, just I just

812
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: I just I used to put the headphones on it

813
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: and said, take my mom. I was like my house

814
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: and my I was like, Yo, this dude crazy. Yo.

815
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: I was like, for a hit of you. It was

816
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: totally wrong. I'm sorry. I'm sorry mom and dad, but

817
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: I listened to that CD every night when I fell asleep.

818
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: So I woke up and I was like, yeah, this

819
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: is crazy. Then I was an album credit reader and

820
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm like Timothy Mosley, like who is this guy? And

821
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: just you know, arrest is history, Jody see Stevie wonder

822
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: why not? Why not? Michael Jackson very easy. Here's where

823
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: it gets a little tricky for me, because, um, you know,

824
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of so much music, and so I

825
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: have to be honest and say, you know, Usher, that's

826
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with you know, something wrong. Confessions changed, you know,

827
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: it was just crazy and even BFM on Usher Live,

828
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: which was early early Usher. Um. And then number one

829
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: for me, you know, arguably Brandy you said number one

830
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: to you because we didn't tell you. It wasn't no order,

831
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: but number one, number, number number I would take if

832
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: I was locked on the desert, it would be Full

833
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: Moon for me, easy easy album. I can top the

834
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: bottom every song Stranded, Stranded, full Moon Easy. I love that.

835
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 1: You know, everybody got there, you know, the honorable mention.

836
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: I gotta put Mary in there just because you know

837
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: of what she meant to the culture. You know what

838
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and like, you know, singing right wrong, you know,

839
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: puff putting samples in there that I hadn't heard before,

840
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: and then you know, you know, yeah, so that's it

841
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: for me. I got a lot of people left out. Okay,

842
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: yea Top five R and B songs. You already said feeling,

843
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna go to Feeding for Feeding

844
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: for sure because it's so wrong, it's so it's so wrong. Yeah,

845
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: that's the church, and y'ad. I think I don't think

846
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: it's wrong. Everything is right to me. And it's like

847
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: cortex guitar, like just so much church, so much church

848
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: and nasty but like crying for you, like and you know,

849
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: just just Joe to see but Feeding for sure. Top

850
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: five songs, Top five Um My, my songs is weird.

851
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: It's you do so much and my song is weird

852
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: though it's about discovery. Yeah, those we don't know those songs. Um,

853
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: what about us, Brandy? You know, you know Rodney Jugon's

854
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: to me, it's just one is an all time great. Yeah, man, um, okay,

855
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: and my list changes daily, so we could talk every day.

856
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text youall, dow y'all, y'all bugged out, text

857
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: you all every day with a new list, right. So

858
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: whatever today Superstar Usher, m I'll be come on you

859
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: you know yeah, um um Fantasy Earth one Fire. Yeah,

860
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: let's get back to her team. Let's get back to

861
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: our team. M hm, you know, get back to birth.

862
00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: So and uh that's four and then um, today, take

863
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: you down Chris Brown. Wow, today, great record. It's an

864
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: amazing record. Today, it's amazing record. Live though too. Yeah,

865
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: just that's today. You know that's got a wrong thing

866
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: on it too, you know, like changes, Yeah, yeah, so

867
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: that's that's But Damon is a wrong kind of guy.

868
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah when he makes music, Yeah, he makes the music. Yeah,

869
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: take you out very Damon makes music out of order. Yeah.

870
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: I used to be sitting next to Day like that

871
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: corps don't go behind it, trust me a dude. When

872
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: next first day he said, yes it does, and Eric

873
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: Dawkins would come in and write on it makes sense

874
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: it right, Absolutely, that's good. You guys are good. Yeah,

875
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: want yeah, and like you know, honorable mentioned definitely keep

876
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: Summarine keep you know, honest, you know so much music

877
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: I can't get it away. But if you realize, like

878
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of my favorites aren't just the

879
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: stuff that I play, because like I was influenced by

880
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: so Like you know, listen listening to Joe to see

881
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: how main is one of the greatest feel good cool

882
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: song all times. Yeah, for sure, it puts you in

883
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: the mood when that record was crazy though? What about

884
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: us record? Brandy record? I was. I was there when

885
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: when when Rottney was figuring out the technology of the record. Yeah, man,

886
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't He's like listen to this. He was. I

887
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: was doing records with him. He was able producing records

888
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: on me, and he was like listening. I was like,

889
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that? And why He's like

890
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: something different? I'm telling you what this And he was

891
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: like and then snares are gonna be kicks? And I

892
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: was like, what are you talking about? Everything he's that

893
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: happened everything that song? Yeah, what is that? He made

894
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: a movie? Audio movie because Brand unfortunately didn't even go

895
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: toward that record, you know what I'm saying. And I

896
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: was like a concert going person. He let us how

897
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: we talked about seeing it. He made us see it

898
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: by hitting play. M it different. It's a lot of

899
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: people that don't do that no more Bruno Mars do

900
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: he do that today? You see it? And then he

901
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: got the you know, he got the visual now with

902
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: it to justin timber Lake. I feel like you see it, Usher,

903
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: I think you see it. I think when I listened

904
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: to a sex record with Tank, it's like you see it.

905
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: You want to be in the zone. But that's before

906
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: you Like, we didn't see that with Brand. You know

907
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like live on stage is what I mean.

908
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 1: What Rodney made a two bar or a four bar

909
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: loop do for five minutes? Like the train that keeps

910
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: part of the Transformers or something. What's what's that? What's

911
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: the world? Did they from the Transformers? I don't know

912
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: from time world? You're right where he made that record, yeah, bro,

913
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: And they just kept moving and I was just like,

914
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard nothing. I've never even tried it

915
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: as a producer at the time. You know what I'm

916
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: saying sounded like even fake Rodney Jerkins for about a year,

917
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't even try it. Yeah, I said, that is

918
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: out of my leaves. I'm gona shoot these jumpers. Yeah. Yeah,

919
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: he's doing something in the paste taste, something special and

920
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: it still is man the way he made he's one

921
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: of the people. To me, I talked crazy about music

922
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: and I'm such a geek of and a fan of music.

923
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: But he makes a loop move so different. So I'm

924
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: not done with you. We're gonna put together R and

925
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: B votron. Okay, all right, So we're gonna take the

926
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: basis the best of the best your world. We want

927
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: to know who you gonna get the vocals from, the

928
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: performance style, from the styling from and the passion of

929
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: the artist. Who are you getting the vocals from? Dialine? Dialine, dialine,

930
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: one person, one person, oh Man, one vocal, one person person.

931
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 1: Mike is on as the kids. One person that's gonna

932
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: have a mic on oh Man today, Eric Dawkins. Yeah,

933
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: that's my today. Do your research the dock I got,

934
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: I got to he flawless brod. I haven't never heard

935
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: him mess up to me. Yeah, let's go ahead next day.

936
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: I just to you know, to open the computer, just

937
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: to open your mouth and sing a song. The voice

938
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: you said, right, Yeah, it's it's it's isn't it's it's

939
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: nobody like him. No, nobody like him. There's nobody like him. Um,

940
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: he's annointed performance style like them on stage. Who um

941
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: m hmm. You know it's like a tie. Like. I

942
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: love Tiana Taylor. I think she She's a very great performed,

943
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: really good. I really do. Chris is just a whole

944
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: another alien from that same wheelhouse. Yeah, and uh but

945
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jackson, you can't go on. Yeah, you know.

946
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: It's so it's like kind of you know, the father.

947
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: We got something. I'm gonna go Michael Jackson performance that's crazy.

948
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: Ye happens. M I'm gonna just play keys and sing back.

949
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna manage um styling, put that ship on, like

950
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: physically the drift. So this is weird for everybody. And

951
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, but I love the way Rick

952
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: Ross dressed because I'm a big dude. That's why he

953
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: gets it off. That's what he gets it. I feel

954
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: like somebody's gonna laugh at me saying that's about it.

955
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: But that's about it. But he has short, but he

956
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: has short above the knee. That's how. That's how, that's

957
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 1: how they show how richie are yt Yeah, they still

958
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: pocket new Rosses fly. I know that. You know you're

959
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna dress Uh, You're gonna dress him up

960
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: as a big nigger. You know what you said? This

961
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: is my transformation, right. I gotta budget. I got a

962
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: voice budget and I got a clothing butet I got

963
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: a voice budget, a performing budget, and a clothing budget.

964
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: This is me. This is what I'm doing. I want,

965
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: I want the whole thing. Here we go crazy. I

966
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: know that sound crazy. Sing like Eric Talkland, dance like Michael,

967
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: dress dressed like Ross whatever. Who I bet you if

968
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: you're going two k right now and make that sit

969
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: I bet you be my player. He yo, we need

970
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: an R and B two K. Let's get it bad.

971
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: You need to call a sports right singing competition video.

972
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: Let's get it. It's crazy. You said we own we

973
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: own him that. Yeah, let's do it. Do that. I'm

974
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: telling you you're just we're doing it. You have a

975
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: virtual microphone, and then I could compete with you anybody

976
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: else done. We're all right? Yeah listen, that's that's that

977
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: sounds crazy. Time stamped and with the thing on. Going

978
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: to concert and build your concert, body, build your concert,

979
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: drip build that's different. That's different. It's different. That's kid

980
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: highlight music, avert metaverse. Um, okay, the passion of the artists.

981
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: Who you getting the heart from? Wh're gonna make you cry,

982
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: I'll make you laugh, jump up. I've never seen anybody

983
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: more passionate than puff Daddy Wow period. He refused to lose.

984
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: He refuses to lose. That's your He needs a shirt

985
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: and I respect he needs what I respect it what

986
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: he literally passionate. He needs a shirt, says I refused

987
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I've never seen he inspired. He inspired me.

988
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: Uh did the bad Boy of Reunion tours some of

989
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: the best music I've ever listened to in the nineties

990
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: that I was able to translate to my instrument and play.

991
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: I've seen him jump on table and I've seen him

992
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: throw the set designs because it wasn't He was like, yo,

993
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't this don't meet my standard, you know what

994
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean. He's one of those people as well that

995
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: he's a designator and if you if he feels like

996
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: you are not doing your best, he's going to challenge

997
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: that because he wants to be the best. I've seen

998
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: him stay at rehearsal till two three four in the

999
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: morning while we're tired. I'm like, yo, I can't be tired,

1000
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: and he's still here. That don't make sense. He is

1001
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: a Lee Dirk straight up. There's no body like him.

1002
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: People can question his tactics, but he brings the best

1003
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: out of people. You know what I'm saying. Um, he

1004
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: is passionate about what he does, and he's passionate sometimes

1005
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: more than you, about what he wants you to do.

1006
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: All right, I can't you know, I can't. I can't

1007
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: get you know. We're going now? Yeah? Oh so we

1008
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: got this segment put right? Yeah, because I went to

1009
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: I went to somebody's event and they put me under

1010
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's right air conditioning. So now you had a

1011
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: good time. Now I'm out here with my bad white

1012
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: So it's called I ain't saying no names. I ain't

1013
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: saying no name saying I ain't saying the name, where

1014
01:05:51,880 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: you being, who and what you did and what I

1015
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know? That is though. Listen, story funnier, funked up,

1016
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: are funny and fucked up? Oh man, I got so

1017
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 1: many bro, this is Adam Blackstones. I ain't saying no man,

1018
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to go with it. Come on,

1019
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: my brother, let me think. Okay, okay, okay, yeah it's great.

1020
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. We got that same almost

1021
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: crazy this this this is crazy. But actually I think

1022
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: people will know what this is. But um, we had

1023
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: the v amaze Man new record just came out with

1024
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: an incredible artist and m she decides to uh, when

1025
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: I have a reptile on the stage with us, right,

1026
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: the joint snake goes crazy. Bro clears out the whole

1027
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: sound check and I mean it's just like crazy trainer

1028
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: trainers off to the side, grabs a dancer, bam right

1029
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: on the thing, right, Bro, When I tell you, I

1030
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: was scared than a mugg dog. That was not fun.

1031
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: Me and the girl dancer couldn't perform the next day

1032
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: at the VMA. They had to get her blood tested

1033
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: and like all this stuff. Bro, it was it was crazy.

1034
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah bro, yeah, and then you know, I ain't see

1035
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: the snake no more. I just put I don't know

1036
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: if they put him down, put him down? What you

1037
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: calling euphonize reptile. Yeah, bro, they had to join out

1038
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: there for sound check. We're playing this song, ain't gonna

1039
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, the nice reptile and just keep saying that

1040
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: and that John, I think like a pyro went off

1041
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: or something that was everybody was like, yo, crazy man.

1042
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: It was like a movie. It was a full terrified.

1043
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: It was a full movie. Yeah, no, we're not with that.

1044
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: I would not. I would we not. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: played that game. Yeah, we're not with that. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was rough. We cleared that. We cleared that stage so

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Speaker 1: fast you would have thought, uh, earthquake was happening. I

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Speaker 1: don't need know. It was worse than that. That's one

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Speaker 1: of them one, you know. Um wow, I ain't saying

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Speaker 1: on names. Yeah, I ain't staying on names. Be careful

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Speaker 1: with this, listen, brother man, um Mr Adam Blackstone. Man,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Thank you for having me well like

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Speaker 1: you already know you are. Thank you for sharing to

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Speaker 1: get for this. Yeah, man, you are. You are a

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Speaker 1: high level guy brother than you And I don't just

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Speaker 1: mean that just in musicality, man, but just as a

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Speaker 1: brother man. Since day one, man, you are absolutely um,

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Speaker 1: completely solid man. And you do amazing work. Man. So

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Speaker 1: those two hand in hand you will not lose. I

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Speaker 1: feel it. And I appreciate you all always having my bag.

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Speaker 1: I know I can call y'all at any time, and

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01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: you know we can shoot shoot, shoot it up like this.

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Speaker 1: And but also you know, don't get it twisted. We're

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Speaker 1: getting that lab and create something crazy or hit that stage.

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: And so you know, um, being solid is you know,

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Speaker 1: mean something to me. So you you you all have

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Speaker 1: that and I just appreciate being here. I appreciate y'all

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Speaker 1: letting me plug legacy and and and also you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing the fathers that you all are and and seeing

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Speaker 1: you know, the family men. That goes a long way

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Speaker 1: for me because it's teaching us that it's it's a

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Speaker 1: lot more than just this R and B met you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying comes back to that because that's

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Speaker 1: what we love. But like we do it for legs,

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Speaker 1: and we do it for our families and and and

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Speaker 1: even this just to have something to stand on. Um,

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Speaker 1: this platform that you all have is just incredible. Man.

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Speaker 1: So thank you all for having me. Appreciate you, Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you ladies. A gentleman. I am Tank and this is

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Speaker 1: the R B Money Podcast, the authority on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B. I gotta call this men the architect.

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Speaker 1: It is him right here and here used to have

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Speaker 1: a black Stone. Thank you for having me die R

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