Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club caps the World's mos dangerous morning show to
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club dj NV, just hilarious, Charlamagne the God, but
Speaker 2: Envy's not here, Lauren Larossa is and we got a
Speaker 2: very special guest in the building. And I am insulted
Speaker 2: at YouTube or Google because I went to go Google
Speaker 2: Carlos just to see what they say he is.
Speaker 3: They called you a goddamn.
Speaker 2: YouTuber reality TV show produce Solutre.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, no, I'm definitely a multi hyphenate like everybody
Speaker 4: in this room.
Speaker 5: So yes, listen. I'm a CEO of.
Speaker 4: A productric company, King Damant a tame Andrew, I am
Speaker 4: somebody who has a YouTube channel. I am the host
Speaker 4: EP of my podcast, Reality with the King. I'm a
Speaker 4: certified yapper, and you know I'm a Libra Carlos King.
Speaker 3: Y'all. What's happening, what's happening, what's happening?
Speaker 1: So happy to be here.
Speaker 6: Talk about a bit because till Charlomagne's point, when when
Speaker 6: people talk about Carlos King, Reality with the King is
Speaker 6: a big show. People know the moments, but I don't
Speaker 6: think people really understand that you were very intricral in
Speaker 6: a lot of our favorite reality TV Real Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 6: ol senate seasons. Talk about that journey in your career.
Speaker 4: Yes, so listen, I'm the first black man to ever
Speaker 4: executive produce the Real Housewives franchise in general. So Atlanta
Speaker 4: is my first one season six and to this day,
Speaker 4: under my leadership, season six of the Real Housewives of
Speaker 4: Atlanta still remains the highest rated season.
Speaker 1: On any show on Bravo.
Speaker 4: So you know, for me, I am somebody who takes
Speaker 4: my career very seriously when it comes to the amount
Speaker 4: of work I've done Real Housewats of Atlanta, Real Housewats
Speaker 4: in New Jersey, And because of that is when I
Speaker 4: left the show to start my production company, Kingdom Entertainment,
Speaker 4: and now am the creator executive producer eleven Match Huntspell.
Speaker 1: Which is a number one show on Oprah Winfrey's network.
Speaker 6: I read an article on out that says that that
Speaker 6: show is responsible for sixty nine percent of all original
Speaker 6: programming hours on own.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so my production company, Kingdom Rank Entertainment, produces sixty
Speaker 4: nine percent of the programs on Oprah's network.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 6: Talk about some goddamn how do you, how do you
Speaker 6: figure out like what you want to do or what
Speaker 6: you want to get involved in? Because Love and Maritimeville
Speaker 6: original idea, Yes, where does that come from?
Speaker 4: I love black people. I'm somebody who is interested in
Speaker 4: telling black stories. I love black couples, and I felt
Speaker 4: that at the time, there wasn't a reality show that
Speaker 4: focused on black couples and their relationships when it comes
Speaker 4: to not the man being behind the woman like on
Speaker 4: a Housewives or a female ensemble show. One thing I
Speaker 4: know about men, straight men, they have an opinion.
Speaker 3: I'm a little crooky.
Speaker 1: You listen a straight black man.
Speaker 4: As we see what the million podcasts people have, they
Speaker 4: have an opinion. And I wanted to do a show
Speaker 4: for the first time where the man and the woman
Speaker 4: had equal footing and billing on the show, and Love
Speaker 4: and Match Huntsville has been the number one showing on
Speaker 4: for the past six years.
Speaker 7: How did you go about casting the couples? Are these
Speaker 7: friends of yours or do you know?
Speaker 4: So I had a meeting with a then couple named
Speaker 4: Melody Martell who wanted to do a show about property preservation,
Speaker 4: and I was like, not sure about that, So I said,
Speaker 4: find me some people I want to do a show
Speaker 4: about couples. They introduced me to the Scots and the
Speaker 4: rest is history.
Speaker 2: What originally drew you to unscripted TV? And what keeps
Speaker 2: you passionate about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so listen, I'm a journalist. Hey Portscha, Hey Lauren,
Speaker 4: I'm a journalist. I grew up watching Oprah Winfrey, the
Speaker 4: late Anon de Lewis, who was my idol for so
Speaker 4: many years and still remains. And for me, I wanted
Speaker 4: to just be somebody who was able to report on
Speaker 4: real people's stories, real people issues. So when I got
Speaker 4: the bug and the call to produce The Real Hospital
Speaker 4: of Atlanta, that's the first show I've done, and the
Speaker 4: moment Charlotte may I stepped on set, I felt like
Speaker 4: how you all feel. It's like when your purpose meets
Speaker 4: your passion. And I felt that God created me to
Speaker 4: be a storyteller and to tell people's stories in the
Speaker 4: most authentic way. And doing unscripted is the blessing that
Speaker 4: I never thought I needed.
Speaker 1: Wow, well it really is.
Speaker 4: You talk about why, because the thing is this, I
Speaker 4: feel like everybody has a story. So when I started
Speaker 4: my podcast Reality with the King, I wanted to create
Speaker 4: a safe space where people were able to be unprovoked,
Speaker 4: not judge, and be able to just sit with somebody
Speaker 4: who cares about them and say, this is my truth
Speaker 4: and this is how I feel. And for me, when
Speaker 4: it comes to reality television, there's nothing that makes me
Speaker 4: more happy than to see regular people live their Robbist dreams.
Speaker 1: I think it's the most important blessing of my life life.
Speaker 3: When you think about season six of the Real Housewives
Speaker 3: of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Right now we all know all the historic cast members
Speaker 2: of Real Housewives of Atlanta. What makes a cast member
Speaker 2: must watch TV? To you, is it personality? Is vulnerability?
Speaker 2: Is it drama or just something else that we might
Speaker 2: be missing.
Speaker 1: It's all the above.
Speaker 4: And what's funny is so when I cast women and
Speaker 4: men of my shows, the number one question they ask
Speaker 4: me is what are you looking for? And I always
Speaker 4: say I want authenticity. The reason why the three of
Speaker 4: you are so amazing at your job is because people
Speaker 4: wake up in the morning and want to listen and.
Speaker 1: Watch what the three of you have to say.
Speaker 4: So for me, it's all about being authentic, being vulnerable
Speaker 4: and listen. We all like a little excited life that
Speaker 4: may be a little messy, just like the world is
Speaker 4: so that scarphone and go live. You know, just had
Speaker 4: to get the man out on her chest, have to
Speaker 4: get the mess off her chest. That's a high six
Speaker 4: team shout out to Nikki. So for me, I love
Speaker 4: that and that's why I've Jes went live and was
Speaker 4: talking you know, her truth. I called Jess and Lauren
Speaker 4: and said, hey, I have a podcast car Reality with
Speaker 4: the King, want to come.
Speaker 8: On and talk to me.
Speaker 9: I did.
Speaker 6: But you've been also to even from the first day
Speaker 6: I met you, you've been really encouraging of us, Like
Speaker 6: you spoke to me about Jess before all of that,
Speaker 6: and you spoke to me about just this environment. What
Speaker 6: has that looked like for you mentorship wise to because
Speaker 6: it was I didn't even know you, but you were like,
Speaker 6: here's what you need to do, here's what you like.
Speaker 10: Why are you that way? And what is that?
Speaker 4: Because I know what it's like to grow up in
Speaker 4: this crazy business and just wanting to be heard. I
Speaker 4: know what it's like to be the only in the room.
Speaker 1: I'm an openly.
Speaker 4: Gay black man, shocker. I know this voice is so deep,
Speaker 4: so much based in it, But for me, I know
Speaker 4: what it's like to be the only one. I know
Speaker 4: what it's like to fell alone, and I know what
Speaker 4: it's like to be a black person in a space
Speaker 4: where everybody feels like they know you.
Speaker 1: So when I saw what the two of you were
Speaker 1: going through.
Speaker 9: Listen, listen you.
Speaker 4: First of all, Charlamaine is the Carlos Kinger Radio, I.
Speaker 10: Normally would say and.
Speaker 4: Definitely yes, like my spirit out of love because he
Speaker 4: was like, I mean, you know, say what you gotta say,
Speaker 4: saying now get off.
Speaker 5: Your chest and it gave me a hug before and
Speaker 5: she's crying and you was like you felt that way,
Speaker 5: was like be crying for weeks.
Speaker 10: And they're gon say, why see a crowd all the time?
Speaker 9: And don't right for me?
Speaker 4: I love black people, I really do. And I am
Speaker 4: everybody's mentor. I'm known as somebody who loves all the girls.
Speaker 4: Every single reality star has contacted me to give them advice.
Speaker 1: They slide in my DMS to no shade, to you know,
Speaker 1: hop on my shows.
Speaker 4: But other than that, they do want somebody who looks
Speaker 4: like me to say how do I go about doing this?
Speaker 1: And that's why mentorship is very important.
Speaker 4: To me because I want to be able to give
Speaker 4: back to my community in a way that feels safe.
Speaker 7: And I heard you mention you want to be the
Speaker 7: change in the industry, right, So yeah, that's what you're
Speaker 7: talking about when you said I want to be the
Speaker 7: change in the industry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I want to be the agent of change,
Speaker 4: because there isn't anybody at the scale of producing in
Speaker 4: which I do that is black. I literally am like
Speaker 4: the face of black reality production.
Speaker 1: And I take that very seriously.
Speaker 4: And that's why for me, I have given so many
Speaker 4: opportunities to black people unscripted.
Speaker 1: I have created so many jobs for people.
Speaker 4: And there's nothing, honest to guys, that makes me happier
Speaker 4: than when I go to work and I see so
Speaker 4: many black people look like me and they're working for me,
Speaker 4: and I promote them and I give them raises and
Speaker 4: I send them off to do everything. So for me,
Speaker 4: I want to be that because no one did that
Speaker 4: for me truly.
Speaker 1: As a black man's.
Speaker 2: Business, you know, there's always a fine line between storytelling
Speaker 2: and exploitation and reality TV.
Speaker 3: How do you know when you've crossed it? And do
Speaker 3: you care?
Speaker 1: I do care? I do care. I have a chow
Speaker 1: called Bell Collective.
Speaker 4: A wonderful woman named Marie Monroe has a mother who
Speaker 4: abuses drugs currently and has been doing that since Marie
Speaker 4: was a little girl. It was Marie's decision to have
Speaker 4: that story be told on the show. We told the
Speaker 4: story in one particular episode. Marie was looking for her
Speaker 4: mother and she was searching for her through crackhouses, and
Speaker 4: we were following it, and we of course wanted the
Speaker 4: end of the story to be she was getting healed,
Speaker 4: because that was Marie's intention. The moment I saw that
Speaker 4: this woman had a problem that didn't look like she
Speaker 4: was going to be healed, I ceased shooting with her,
Speaker 4: and I said that at some point will feel like
Speaker 4: we're exploiting this woman who clearly still has a drug
Speaker 4: abuse situation that is prominent today. And I did not
Speaker 4: want to be somebody to use my millions of viewers
Speaker 4: and audiences to show a black mother dealing with that
Speaker 4: for the rest.
Speaker 1: Of the show. So I sees production on that.
Speaker 7: One, and then even not even before you get to her,
Speaker 7: even some of the other extra crad kids and some
Speaker 7: of the houses that you'll followed them in, they was
Speaker 7: probably like, damn yit, I ain't telling us that they
Speaker 7: was coming to day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the real crackhouses of Atlanta will be fired.
Speaker 1: Carlos King Radio.
Speaker 10: Call manage for the rest of it. You are one
Speaker 10: of the girls, not one of the girls.
Speaker 9: Do you know this?
Speaker 5: Us gays love you.
Speaker 3: I tell you love me. They called me.
Speaker 5: They say, I'm trade what.
Speaker 3: Means no, but it's.
Speaker 9: Trade is and clocking in.
Speaker 4: The trade is a black masculine well not black, a
Speaker 4: masculine man that looks like this, you know, with your
Speaker 4: basketball shorts and T shirt and yes, yes we like
Speaker 4: run around over here.
Speaker 10: That's for you to say. They'd be like, he's around
Speaker 10: he so they I'll be like, my god, I was walking.
Speaker 3: Out of the bag.
Speaker 2: What happened walking out of vickcom It was about four brothers, right.
Speaker 2: I didn't even paid no attention. I'm walking right, so
Speaker 2: I'm mind of my business. Aunt Charlamagne, don't you walk
Speaker 2: over here? Don't you walk back us with all that
Speaker 2: ask and I say nothing.
Speaker 8: We love.
Speaker 3: When I went back exactly.
Speaker 7: So I want to go back to something that you
Speaker 7: said before. You were saying that you know you wanted
Speaker 7: to be the change in the industry. What were some
Speaker 7: of the things that you had to go through before
Speaker 7: you even got to that, like you ever mistreated in
Speaker 7: the industry before you got to.
Speaker 2: Where you are?
Speaker 1: Yes, I good question. I remember.
Speaker 4: Being a producer and I worked really hard and I
Speaker 4: climbed the ladder the right way. I was a PA,
Speaker 4: a P I had every step in this business. And
Speaker 4: I remember I had these sentimental who I thought were
Speaker 4: like everything to me, and long story short, I reached
Speaker 4: out to them for advice, like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 4: know I have an opportunity to be an executive producer.
Speaker 1: I need some advice. What should I do?
Speaker 4: Do you know an agent? Should I get an agent?
Speaker 4: And all these things. Long story short, they went behind
Speaker 4: my back and tild my bosses. I did not deserve
Speaker 4: the promotion. Wow, why Because what I have learned in
Speaker 4: this business is everybody wants you to do great as
Speaker 4: long as you're not doing better than them.
Speaker 1: And that was a tough pill for me to swallow.
Speaker 4: And I remember crying about that because it was my
Speaker 4: first time experiencing betrayal.
Speaker 1: From people who I thought were looking out for me.
Speaker 4: So when I experienced that, I said to myself, no
Speaker 4: black person in my willhouse would ever have to go
Speaker 4: through that again. And that's the reason why my company
Speaker 4: I have an open door policy.
Speaker 1: I speak to everybody from the PA to the grip,
Speaker 1: to the sound person to.
Speaker 4: The executives, because I want everybody to know that when
Speaker 4: they work with Carlos King, we're gonna have a great time.
Speaker 1: We're gonna work really hard.
Speaker 4: But you also have somebody where the owner of the
Speaker 4: company is gonna shake your hand and speak to you
Speaker 4: and say thank you at the end of the of
Speaker 4: the of the shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I was always wondered about black
Speaker 2: reality TV stars. They seem to not get the same
Speaker 2: like mainstream deals or magazing covers. Why do you think
Speaker 2: the industry still treats black reality stars like they decided
Speaker 2: this is the not the entree, especially when they had
Speaker 2: success like Real Housewives of.
Speaker 10: A lot of people talk like that about NII. They
Speaker 10: feel like she should have more.
Speaker 4: Yes, MEMI to me is the Meryl Streep of reality television,
Speaker 4: and we're gonna put some respect on her name.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 4: We all have benefited from nine Leaks, and I'm comfortable
Speaker 4: saying that giving the woman her must do in this business.
Speaker 4: I think when it comes to black reality stars, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: just like any black woman in any industry. You aren't
Speaker 4: given the invest that you deserve. You're not, whether it's
Speaker 4: the music industry, whether it's journalism, whether it's you know,
Speaker 4: the medical field. It's an unfortunate fact that when it
Speaker 4: comes to black women in any industry, black women lead
Speaker 4: the charge. They're the curators, you know, they're the tastemakers.
Speaker 4: But unfortunately, advertisers feel like if they're not white, would
Speaker 4: the consumer buy into that?
Speaker 1: And I think they will. And that's why we look
Speaker 1: at Porsche.
Speaker 4: Williams capital p the cover of People magazine. Bernadine Peters,
Speaker 4: Angela Bassett. Yes, you know, like you look at Porsche
Speaker 4: and listen, I'm gonna say this because I believe in it.
Speaker 4: I think Porsche Williams is currently the black Kim Kardashian
Speaker 4: of our time, and I think we need to look
Speaker 4: at her as somebody who is going to make so
Speaker 4: many strides in this business. And I believe strongly. Her
Speaker 4: People magazine cover her illustrated that fact. And when I
Speaker 4: saw that, I was like, where's her deals?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: I'm like that to me, that to me really showcased
Speaker 4: like this woman is about to set things on fire,
Speaker 4: like she did that car.
Speaker 10: You said it was iconic.
Speaker 4: Well, like I think Portia is so iconic, and I
Speaker 4: just love her so much because again, she's what Charlie
Speaker 4: Mane I just talked about.
Speaker 1: She's vulnerable, she's funny, she's.
Speaker 4: Authentic, and you know, she's having a season where she's
Speaker 4: going through a divorce and that's challenging.
Speaker 9: I think any woman.
Speaker 4: Is going through divorce sees that and understands that. And
Speaker 4: if you have never gone through a divorce, I think
Speaker 4: you will never understand what that does to a woman.
Speaker 4: It does something to a woman, and I've seen it
Speaker 4: with Ninny Leeks. I've seen it on my Show's Loving Marriage,
Speaker 4: I've seen it across the world, and.
Speaker 1: I think we have to really give her some grace.
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask, did you see the interview that
Speaker 6: Simon recently did with Page six where he I did
Speaker 6: How did you feel about that interview in him throwing
Speaker 6: a lot of the blame on I think.
Speaker 4: That I think it's one of those situations where I
Speaker 4: don't know Simon. I'm as Simon at the wedding for
Speaker 4: the first time, the Nigerian one, because at the time
Speaker 4: I was with an African who looked like Charlie Mayne.
Speaker 2: Was he from the Miley Regent That's where I'm from.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know.
Speaker 9: He couldn't related to Simon. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Plus one for the wedding.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we alone, my gosh, circumstance, yeah.
Speaker 9: All my cut.
Speaker 1: So my thing is I'm being so began me.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I like a good.
Speaker 1: Amount of protein. But my thing is this.
Speaker 4: I met Simon at the wedding day, the Nigerian wedding.
Speaker 4: It was Me Giselle Bryant sitting next to each other,
Speaker 4: and I saw the love in that room.
Speaker 1: And you have to be there to understand there was
Speaker 1: love there.
Speaker 9: I am shocked.
Speaker 4: That Simon has decided to go this route when it
Speaker 4: comes to creating a narrative about his wife.
Speaker 1: Listen, I wasn't there. I was in their bedroom.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, But I do think when
Speaker 4: it comes to a man at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: I do think there's some sort of protection that needs
Speaker 4: to happen to where you have to look at her
Speaker 4: mental health and understand that. I do believe that everybody
Speaker 4: should tell their own story, but I do think it
Speaker 4: comes to a point to where it could be too much,
Speaker 4: and I think as a man, you have to decide, like,
Speaker 4: I got my point across and I'm done. And I
Speaker 4: hope that Simon, in his quiet times, understands that I
Speaker 4: feel like he did an interview, he got his story out,
Speaker 4: and I think now is the time to be like,
Speaker 4: all right, bro, we heard.
Speaker 3: You also too.
Speaker 2: You got to look at it and think to yourself
Speaker 2: how much of that is projection? Because I mean he's
Speaker 2: going through a lot of trying.
Speaker 3: For sure, he just was locked up.
Speaker 2: You got deported, Yeah, set up like shopping a whole
Speaker 2: new place, even though you're from there, Nageria.
Speaker 4: I don't know he's Nigeria.
Speaker 10: I mean he can go between both, but I think
Speaker 10: he's in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just can't come back to the mark. I
Speaker 2: just think when I saw the interview, I just saw
Speaker 2: a lot of projection.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw a lot of pain.
Speaker 4: And listen, I'm not here to dissect that man's emotion
Speaker 4: and what.
Speaker 1: Is in real or not.
Speaker 4: I believe he obviously, Listen, I know there was love
Speaker 4: that I was at the wedding and Portia teared up
Speaker 4: and I saw so much love between those two that
Speaker 4: that I am shocked.
Speaker 1: That things are worth at now.
Speaker 4: But with that being said, I do think at some
Speaker 4: point you have to put down, you know, the missile,
Speaker 4: just say I will deal with this now privately, so
Speaker 4: hopefully that happens.
Speaker 1: Has is that all the questions about I know you want.
Speaker 10: To get it out? No, no, No, that's it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: Has doing reality CV ever been challenging to you to
Speaker 7: the point where you were like, all right, look, I'm
Speaker 7: done with this shit, like I'm walking away from this. Like,
Speaker 7: has there ever been a moment where it got personal
Speaker 7: for you? Although it's business?
Speaker 5: Oh, Jess with the cook You know what I'm saying, I.
Speaker 3: Learned, I learned a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Look I think, oh, okay, I'm gonna say this now. Okay, Look,
Speaker 4: I think there is a time to where you have
Speaker 4: to take inventory of what's happening in an industry. And
Speaker 4: I look at reality television now and it's not what
Speaker 4: it used to be. I started in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: Like I was there when Needy Lee's had a quick weave.
Speaker 9: Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was there when Charae had broking gates in her
Speaker 4: million dollar home. You know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 4: was there when things were real, and women joined the
Speaker 4: show because they were like, this could be interesting and
Speaker 4: obviously listen, be famous and all those things and whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't like where it's hitting to where I feel
Speaker 4: like a lot of people joined this show for the
Speaker 4: wrong reasons and they don't understand that.
Speaker 1: It's it's a.
Speaker 4: You're doing a deal where you have to exchange your
Speaker 4: privacy for publicity. And when you hear reality stars saying
Speaker 4: I ain't talking about that, that's too real, or when
Speaker 4: they use social media to turn people against the production
Speaker 4: because they don't like the fact that the audience doesn't
Speaker 4: like them in this particular episode, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 4: we all have bad moments.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I felt for you when you, you know, talked about
Speaker 4: your situation.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you. You're good, but you know,
Speaker 1: because he loves, he.
Speaker 9: Loves, he's like me. He's like he like speed.
Speaker 1: Right, that's Charlamagne. You get the G in the end
Speaker 1: of the e because the G is.
Speaker 4: Silent, Okay, So so for me, I do understand that
Speaker 4: this is a tough industry because of social media. And
Speaker 4: I have said that social media has killed the reality
Speaker 4: star because social media has poisoned. The reality start into
Speaker 4: behaving in a way that pleases them.
Speaker 1: And the reality star.
Speaker 4: If they're not strong enough and if they don't have
Speaker 4: the right people around them, they can fall into that
Speaker 4: trap and they can lose opportunities because nobody wants to
Speaker 4: be around somebody who constantly is berating some one when
Speaker 4: you're like, we.
Speaker 1: Were good, Oh but that episode aired.
Speaker 4: And you don't like the feedback that you're that you're getting,
Speaker 4: so now all of a sudden, it's editing fought.
Speaker 1: But baby, during the production, we were good.
Speaker 5: You know, we had a watch party, was great, you
Speaker 5: got the episode.
Speaker 1: You was like yay. And then user three oh seven.
Speaker 4: Nine you be and you like production and it's like
Speaker 4: come again. So those days to me are definitely diminishing.
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why look reality with the Kings
Speaker 4: of Hip podcast, and that's why I'm so happy to
Speaker 4: announce that we have partner with Black Effects. He King Effects. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So shout out to Charlotte May. I really appreciate you. Listen,
Speaker 4: You're somebody who I always looked up to since your
Speaker 4: days being with Wendy, and I feel like our stories
Speaker 4: are so parallel because I know what it's like to
Speaker 4: be the psychic and I know what it's like to
Speaker 4: just want to be able to of course service the
Speaker 4: person who you're working for, but also have your own
Speaker 4: dreams and desires.
Speaker 1: So with my podcast.
Speaker 4: Joining the Black Effect Network, you know, expect things to
Speaker 4: be bigger and bolder and listen. I think for me,
Speaker 4: it shows that you have two black men who are
Speaker 4: powerful in their own individual industries. But I believe this
Speaker 4: partnership will show the world and the community and the
Speaker 4: culture that two black men okay can join forces with
Speaker 4: no ego and figure out a landscape to where we
Speaker 4: can do business on a multi level scale. So the
Speaker 4: fact that this partnership is happening me and I'm Charlie
Speaker 4: made about to make a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking forward to, you know, learning the
Speaker 2: world of unscripted you know, through you. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I want Black Effect to be a multimedia you know company, right,
Speaker 2: multimedia production company.
Speaker 3: So you know we've already talked about doing unscripted stuff.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, including a show with your wife and your kids. Well,
Speaker 4: I love that because I'm really single, and I love
Speaker 4: it when you have a partner who's support No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: maybe I love that Charlote made Steve Harvey I look
Speaker 4: and and Lebron I love it when you have a
Speaker 4: partner that is supportive. And one thing I have listened
Speaker 4: to you talk about your wife, you, Lebron, Gucci with
Speaker 4: Akisha k R and Lebron, You, Lebron, Steve and Gucci
Speaker 4: have all said I'm good, but I'm great because.
Speaker 1: Of my wife.
Speaker 6: When you mean, when you see him and his dynamic
Speaker 6: with his wife, you realize that, like literally, I thank
Speaker 6: God for her because she is And I watched him
Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, you need that, Like it's like
Speaker 6: Yin yang, like she is the She's the one, for real,
Speaker 6: She's amazing.
Speaker 10: She would never do that show though, And.
Speaker 6: She said, we're gonna sit down.
Speaker 9: No, no, We're gonna sit not have and have dinner.
Speaker 1: But there'll be no cameras around. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: But question when you talk about, you know, working alongside
Speaker 6: people and one of your just do where are you
Speaker 6: and Mona Scott Young today.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's my mentor forever and ever and ever.
Speaker 4: She was on Reality with the King. The beauty of
Speaker 4: moment is this.
Speaker 1: People really tried to pit us against each other.
Speaker 4: I've learned so much from Mona Scott working with love
Speaker 4: and hip hop. And I saw this black woman baby
Speaker 4: come in and set ship on fire.
Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean with.
Speaker 4: Her wisdom, her knowledge, and I've learned so much from
Speaker 4: her and she and I we were just at conye
Speaker 4: Lando's Foundations celebrating the BT Awards two weeks ago in La.
Speaker 4: She is and always will be a woman that I
Speaker 4: have great respect for, and I do feel like when
Speaker 4: it comes to Mona, a lot of people do not
Speaker 4: understand the stride she made as a black one of
Speaker 4: the music industry, you know, alongside the Lake Christ Liity.
Speaker 1: So no, I love Mona. We're good.
Speaker 2: Was that at one time you felt pressure of delute
Speaker 2: black narratives fit mainstream expectations.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no.
Speaker 4: And it's funny because a lot, a lot all of
Speaker 4: my shows are starring black people. And I received the notion,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, do some show with some white folks.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm a storyteller first, But for me, I hate that
Speaker 4: because when you say, why don't you do shows with
Speaker 4: white people or why you only do shows with black people? No,
Speaker 4: one talks to these other production companies and say, you
Speaker 4: have a lot of white shows because they look.
Speaker 1: At it as it being mainstream.
Speaker 4: And when you say that, you're I'm gonna say it,
Speaker 4: you're pretty much calling black.
Speaker 1: Folks second class citizens. Why not? Why aren't we able
Speaker 1: to work together?
Speaker 4: And that's why our collaboration with my podcast in Black
Speaker 4: Effect is really one of my ways of showing people that, Sure,
Speaker 4: I could have went to this network, on that network,
Speaker 4: and we had so many offers, but when Dolly Bishop
Speaker 4: flew to Dollar yes I'm the president of Black Effect.
Speaker 1: When she reached out to me and said me.
Speaker 4: And Charlie Maine would love for you to be a
Speaker 4: part of our network, it was enough brainer for me.
Speaker 1: I literally and my management will be mad because.
Speaker 4: I thought myself doing the meeting, like, yes, I'll do it,
Speaker 4: but you know do they think? But I was thrilled
Speaker 4: to know that we could work well together and really
Speaker 4: show people that listen, I saw a center's baby and
Speaker 4: I'm all about black ownership and black power.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're not just producing shows, You're building a brain
Speaker 2: with Kingdom Ring.
Speaker 3: So what's your vision for Kingdom Raging beyond even television?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so listen, we will be a multi media production company.
Speaker 4: We will do podcasting, we will do unscripted television and
Speaker 4: scripted and with me at the helm of this production company,
Speaker 4: it's all about really following the trends of where we
Speaker 4: are now. You and I spoke about that two weeks
Speaker 4: ago with what Kai Sanata is doing. Yeah, so, like,
Speaker 4: there's stuff that I want to do. I'm a disruptor
Speaker 4: in this industry, and I want to have fun creating
Speaker 4: stuff that people are like. I had no idea you
Speaker 4: were thinking about that, So expect more from us in
Speaker 4: all facets of his industry.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 2: When you watch what Kai is doing, do you think
Speaker 2: that would work in reality TV?
Speaker 3: Could you do a reality show that's live like that?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look what Juski is doing with his
Speaker 4: dating showing YouTube.
Speaker 9: It is edited.
Speaker 4: But I also I say all that to say, there's
Speaker 4: an audience that wants to see someone of that status,
Speaker 4: of that status doing something unscripted realm and I think
Speaker 4: what Kai is doing can definitely working unscripted, just.
Speaker 1: Like having cameras in the house doing your live.
Speaker 4: Love Island is like the hot shown out right now
Speaker 4: and it comes on six days a week and that's
Speaker 4: like around the clock and all that stuff. And I
Speaker 4: think me and Charlie mainshakal Kai and figure out what
Speaker 4: we can do together to really show some live elements
Speaker 4: what he's doing. Absolutely not to put you on a.
Speaker 1: Spot high, but you know we can do it.
Speaker 3: Put them on the spot.
Speaker 6: Yes, do you think that Bravo this is a hard left?
Speaker 6: Do you think Bravo owns owes Kenya more?
Speaker 3: Some money money?
Speaker 9: Well, look, I don't know Kenya's deal.
Speaker 4: I don't know Kenya's deal, but what I will say
Speaker 4: about Kenya Moore is I work with her, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say this, Kenya Moore is one of the rare
Speaker 4: reality stars who did everything for that show Everything, What
Speaker 4: does everything look like?
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore cared. She cared about telling her own personal story.
Speaker 4: She cared about asking questions where things would be swept
Speaker 4: under the rug. She cared about who was joining the show.
Speaker 4: She cared about if they fit. She cared about making
Speaker 4: amands with people. She cared about making sure that Carlos
Speaker 4: King was happy, you know, like she cares about She
Speaker 4: cared about that. It was very sad to see her
Speaker 4: be let go. But what I will say is I
Speaker 4: think there's an opportunity for her to return, and I
Speaker 4: think she deserves to return. She is the sheer definition
Speaker 4: of a force multiplier. And I want Kenya Moore to
Speaker 4: be somebody who understands her value and her worth and
Speaker 4: to do whatever her heart's desires. And if that's coming
Speaker 4: back to the show, fantastic. If that's doing other.
Speaker 1: Things she has a YouTube channel she's doing.
Speaker 4: We all love Kenya Moore and she is forever the
Speaker 4: American Black beauty of our generation.
Speaker 2: As you something as a producer, right when you look
Speaker 2: at own and you make up like sixteen said sixty
Speaker 2: nine percent of the continent, I think about what fifty
Speaker 2: cent did with starts.
Speaker 3: Yes, what Tyler Perry does would be to yes.
Speaker 2: Is that the movie is that how producers should be thinking, like,
Speaker 2: let me lock in with a network.
Speaker 4: And yeah, honestly, listen, our industry is going through a crisis,
Speaker 4: and I love so much.
Speaker 1: Listen. I grew up watching Oprah Win with my mother.
Speaker 4: So to be able to have a production company that
Speaker 4: I own produce sixty nine percent of the shows for
Speaker 4: her network under the leadership of the president Tina Perry,
Speaker 4: they hit up unscripted you tapping. To be able to
Speaker 4: work with them, Charlotte Maayne, and to provide so many
Speaker 4: shows for them, that is the goal to share that. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: and I have such respect and adoration for them, and
Speaker 4: they do for me and I will forever for the
Speaker 4: rest of my life as I have breadth of my
Speaker 4: lungs to produce for that network.
Speaker 1: They have given me so many opportunities.
Speaker 4: I host reunion shows for the shows I produce for
Speaker 4: the network, and we have an amazing work relationship. But yes,
Speaker 4: I think that is a future and I think listen,
Speaker 4: I think it's with any situation, you find a home
Speaker 4: that loves you, respects you, and values you.
Speaker 9: And OWN is that.
Speaker 4: And look, I'm able to produce for the networks, but
Speaker 4: for me, nothing is more valuable than my relationship with OWN.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say the network.
Speaker 2: There was a network that came to me one time
Speaker 2: and it was like, Okay, we want you to be
Speaker 2: the producer, and you're gonna be with this writer and
Speaker 2: we're gonna be working with three.
Speaker 3: Producers and three writers. Yeah, so figure it out.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, So clearly that's I guess that's
Speaker 2: what these networks are going nowaday.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, but you have to really, and I think,
Speaker 4: just follow the model that works for you with fifty
Speaker 4: cent has done for stars and you know has done
Speaker 4: for subscriptions for that platform. You have to know your
Speaker 4: value and your worth and I think, listen, you are
Speaker 4: Charla Maine, and I think you can go to any
Speaker 4: network and get a show green lit. For sure, that's
Speaker 4: what you want to do, but also think there's something
Speaker 4: valuable by going to one home saying why can't I
Speaker 4: just produce multiple shows for you guys versus just like
Speaker 4: constantly running around finding a home to do that for.
Speaker 2: Which network for the bag, but not locking you into
Speaker 2: a multi show deal before on.
Speaker 5: So, Lauren, your bob looks good.
Speaker 6: For real because I felt like you should ad a
Speaker 6: situation from Bravo. I felt like VHR like there's a
Speaker 6: lot of networks that you've been loosely associated with but
Speaker 6: that we know but behind the scenes in a big way.
Speaker 6: Why didn't it happen after all the Real Housewives success
Speaker 6: and what's going on in Carlos.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm somebody where I go where I'm valued,
Speaker 4: and sometimes what that means is not that there's.
Speaker 1: Any beep or anything. But when you grew up.
Speaker 4: In this business, right, sometimes people see you as one thing.
Speaker 4: And what I love about OWN is they saw me
Speaker 4: as a formidable producer, but they also saw me as
Speaker 4: an extraordinary CEO. They also saw me as talent. So
Speaker 4: to have a home that sees you as those three
Speaker 4: things is what means the most to me. And look,
Speaker 4: I pitched to all networks and I love them all too.
Speaker 1: However, I value a network like OWN.
Speaker 4: That sees Carlos King as more than one thing. And
Speaker 4: the fact that Reality with the King has a show
Speaker 4: on Own.
Speaker 1: Okay that comes on July eighteenth, so watch it Like
Speaker 1: that's dope.
Speaker 4: Like for them to come to me and say, we
Speaker 4: see your hit podcast, let's create a talk show for
Speaker 4: our network, you know what I mean. But I also
Speaker 4: have a show idea. Can you produce it?
Speaker 1: So I listen.
Speaker 4: I have nothing but more love and respect for them,
Speaker 4: and it shows I'd rather you see.
Speaker 2: I'd rather see you doing that on OWN. I mean,
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen been at Bravo doing the same thing for ever,
Speaker 2: so I would rather see Carlos King doing that on
Speaker 2: producing shows, having his own talk show.
Speaker 3: It just makes all the sense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if that what led to that conversation you just
Speaker 6: had about like being seen in the proper way, Is
Speaker 6: that what led to because there's always been a rumor
Speaker 6: that there's like this thing with you and Andy Cohen
Speaker 6: that isn't the best relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's false, that's false. He and are fine.
Speaker 4: I have said this to him personally and I'll say
Speaker 4: it publicly. He is somebody that you have to be
Speaker 4: blind to not see that. He paved the way for
Speaker 4: people like me, for producers to be able to host,
Speaker 4: for re unions, for producers to be able to be
Speaker 4: seen as talent. And we're not going to negate that
Speaker 4: for him again. When you are two people doing great work,
Speaker 4: the audience wants to pitch you against each other.
Speaker 1: They try to do that with the two of you, right,
Speaker 1: They tried to do.
Speaker 4: That with Brandy Amonica and the fact that you two
Speaker 4: came together brand the Amonica now on tour.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fall into that trap.
Speaker 4: I am an amazing version of Carlos King and at
Speaker 4: the same time, in my same breath, I can give
Speaker 4: Andy Cohen his prosper being the best at what he does,
Speaker 4: and I think when it comes to social media who
Speaker 4: love to try to say you're.
Speaker 1: Trying to beat him.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 9: I really am not.
Speaker 4: I own a production company, I have a podcast, I'm.
Speaker 1: A YouTuber according to Wikipedia. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I want my people, and I'm gonna talk to my
Speaker 4: people alone, because a lot of them do say that
Speaker 4: he's trying to be some stop falling under the microscope
Speaker 4: of us being compared to somebody who is white. Sure,
Speaker 4: it's you are really shedding light on your own insecurities.
Speaker 4: I'm not insecure. So when people say, I'm not offended
Speaker 4: at all. But I do want my people to really
Speaker 4: respect what I have done, and respect my name, and
Speaker 4: respect my legacy, and respect what I have done for
Speaker 4: my community and what I'm still doing. When you go
Speaker 4: on set of a Carlos King show, You're going to
Speaker 4: see people who look like my cast I'm.
Speaker 1: The only one doing that, the only one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Do you feel like you get that respect?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: No, no, listen, the rain drops my pants, they see it,
Speaker 4: but no, listen, I don't.
Speaker 1: But I don't do it for that. I'm a very
Speaker 1: spiritual person.
Speaker 4: I know that God gave me this life to honor
Speaker 4: him when.
Speaker 1: I reached the prily gates.
Speaker 4: God is not gonna say not hold on, honey, let
Speaker 4: me see what they said about your social media child
Speaker 4: the shaved room posting like they're not going to do that.
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why don't crash out. Is the
Speaker 4: reason why when people try to come from me, I
Speaker 4: don't respond to them because I understand that.
Speaker 1: Y'all need that.
Speaker 4: Social media is a playground of misfits, and every once
Speaker 4: in a while I like to go on the playground
Speaker 4: and throw saying you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: By looking through the comments, we all, do you see
Speaker 1: your post that shady like? What is saying? What he
Speaker 1: is saying?
Speaker 9: Are they?
Speaker 1: Are they saying what I think they're gonna say what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking? So I get all that.
Speaker 4: It will never affect me to the point where I'm
Speaker 4: going to lose the respect of people who give me opportunities.
Speaker 1: Ain't none of y'all worth that? Nah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carlos is marching in the NYC.
Speaker 4: Yes, Gods love who serves over four million meals for everybody,
Speaker 4: And I'm so excited to partner with them.
Speaker 1: So I'll be here on a float and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have fun. Yeah.
Speaker 9: So God's Love.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing charity that I'm a part of. And
Speaker 1: again I'm a spiritual person.
Speaker 4: So the partner with an organization who does great work
Speaker 4: for the community. I'm honored that they have chosen me
Speaker 4: to represent them on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Make sure you support Coles King and all he does
Speaker 2: man the podcast.
Speaker 3: When this podcast is very.
Speaker 5: Well no, well, now they're on the Black Effect. Prepared
Speaker 5: to be sick of me?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, I am going up, so rain Drops exclusive.
Speaker 4: Listen up rain Drops now that Reality with the King
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Speaker 1: They got the latest with Laura bro So they have
Speaker 1: a lot of people.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to be dropping between four to five
Speaker 4: episodes a week.
Speaker 10: You coming from me because I'm daily.
Speaker 4: Well you know, listen, there's room for everybody. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 4: I will as long as I don't have a bob.
Speaker 1: You in good hands.
Speaker 3: Hair, Thank you?
Speaker 10: So what's happening?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 10: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 1: Girl? I look, I think it's.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's the Breakfast Club. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 3: Breakfast Club