1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club caps the World's mos dangerous morning show to 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club dj NV, just hilarious, Charlamagne the God, but 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Envy's not here, Lauren Larossa is and we got a 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: very special guest in the building. And I am insulted 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: at YouTube or Google because I went to go Google 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Carlos just to see what they say he is. 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: They called you a goddamn. 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: YouTuber reality TV show produce Solutre. 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: Yes, well, no, I'm definitely a multi hyphenate like everybody 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: in this room. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 5: So yes, listen. I'm a CEO of. 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: A productric company, King Damant a tame Andrew, I am 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: somebody who has a YouTube channel. I am the host 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: EP of my podcast, Reality with the King. I'm a 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 4: certified yapper, and you know I'm a Libra Carlos King. 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: Y'all. What's happening, what's happening, what's happening? 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: So happy to be here. 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 6: Talk about a bit because till Charlomagne's point, when when 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 6: people talk about Carlos King, Reality with the King is 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 6: a big show. People know the moments, but I don't 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 6: think people really understand that you were very intricral in 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 6: a lot of our favorite reality TV Real Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah, 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 6: ol senate seasons. Talk about that journey in your career. 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: Yes, so listen, I'm the first black man to ever 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: executive produce the Real Housewives franchise in general. So Atlanta 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: is my first one season six and to this day, 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 4: under my leadership, season six of the Real Housewives of 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 4: Atlanta still remains the highest rated season. 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: On any show on Bravo. 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: So you know, for me, I am somebody who takes 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 4: my career very seriously when it comes to the amount 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: of work I've done Real Housewats of Atlanta, Real Housewats 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: in New Jersey, And because of that is when I 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: left the show to start my production company, Kingdom Entertainment, 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: and now am the creator executive producer eleven Match Huntspell. 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Which is a number one show on Oprah Winfrey's network. 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 6: I read an article on out that says that that 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 6: show is responsible for sixty nine percent of all original 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 6: programming hours on own. 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my production company, Kingdom Rank Entertainment, produces sixty 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: nine percent of the programs on Oprah's network. 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: I love that. 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 6: Talk about some goddamn how do you, how do you 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 6: figure out like what you want to do or what 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: you want to get involved in? Because Love and Maritimeville 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 6: original idea, Yes, where does that come from? 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: I love black people. I'm somebody who is interested in 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: telling black stories. I love black couples, and I felt 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: that at the time, there wasn't a reality show that 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 4: focused on black couples and their relationships when it comes 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: to not the man being behind the woman like on 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: a Housewives or a female ensemble show. One thing I 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: know about men, straight men, they have an opinion. 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: I'm a little crooky. 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: You listen a straight black man. 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 4: As we see what the million podcasts people have, they 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: have an opinion. And I wanted to do a show 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: for the first time where the man and the woman 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: had equal footing and billing on the show, and Love 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: and Match Huntsville has been the number one showing on 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 4: for the past six years. 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 7: How did you go about casting the couples? Are these 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 7: friends of yours or do you know? 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 4: So I had a meeting with a then couple named 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: Melody Martell who wanted to do a show about property preservation, 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: and I was like, not sure about that, So I said, 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: find me some people I want to do a show 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: about couples. They introduced me to the Scots and the 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: rest is history. 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: What originally drew you to unscripted TV? And what keeps 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: you passionate about? 73 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so listen, I'm a journalist. Hey Portscha, Hey Lauren, 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm a journalist. I grew up watching Oprah Winfrey, the 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: late Anon de Lewis, who was my idol for so 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: many years and still remains. And for me, I wanted 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: to just be somebody who was able to report on 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: real people's stories, real people issues. So when I got 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: the bug and the call to produce The Real Hospital 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: of Atlanta, that's the first show I've done, and the 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: moment Charlotte may I stepped on set, I felt like 82 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: how you all feel. It's like when your purpose meets 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: your passion. And I felt that God created me to 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: be a storyteller and to tell people's stories in the 85 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: most authentic way. And doing unscripted is the blessing that 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: I never thought I needed. 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Wow, well it really is. 88 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: You talk about why, because the thing is this, I 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 4: feel like everybody has a story. So when I started 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: my podcast Reality with the King, I wanted to create 91 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: a safe space where people were able to be unprovoked, 92 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: not judge, and be able to just sit with somebody 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: who cares about them and say, this is my truth 94 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: and this is how I feel. And for me, when 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: it comes to reality television, there's nothing that makes me 96 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: more happy than to see regular people live their Robbist dreams. 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: I think it's the most important blessing of my life life. 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: When you think about season six of the Real Housewives 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: of Atlanta. 100 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: Right now we all know all the historic cast members 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: of Real Housewives of Atlanta. What makes a cast member 102 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: must watch TV? To you, is it personality? Is vulnerability? 103 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: Is it drama or just something else that we might 104 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: be missing. 105 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: It's all the above. 106 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 4: And what's funny is so when I cast women and 107 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: men of my shows, the number one question they ask 108 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: me is what are you looking for? And I always 109 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: say I want authenticity. The reason why the three of 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: you are so amazing at your job is because people 111 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: wake up in the morning and want to listen and. 112 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Watch what the three of you have to say. 113 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: So for me, it's all about being authentic, being vulnerable 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: and listen. We all like a little excited life that 115 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: may be a little messy, just like the world is 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: so that scarphone and go live. You know, just had 117 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: to get the man out on her chest, have to 118 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: get the mess off her chest. That's a high six 119 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: team shout out to Nikki. So for me, I love 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: that and that's why I've Jes went live and was 121 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: talking you know, her truth. I called Jess and Lauren 122 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: and said, hey, I have a podcast car Reality with 123 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: the King, want to come. 124 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 8: On and talk to me. 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 9: I did. 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 6: But you've been also to even from the first day 127 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 6: I met you, you've been really encouraging of us, Like 128 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 6: you spoke to me about Jess before all of that, 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 6: and you spoke to me about just this environment. What 130 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 6: has that looked like for you mentorship wise to because 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 6: it was I didn't even know you, but you were like, 132 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 6: here's what you need to do, here's what you like. 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 10: Why are you that way? And what is that? 134 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: Because I know what it's like to grow up in 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: this crazy business and just wanting to be heard. I 136 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: know what it's like to be the only in the room. 137 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm an openly. 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 4: Gay black man, shocker. I know this voice is so deep, 139 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: so much based in it, But for me, I know 140 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: what it's like to be the only one. I know 141 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: what it's like to fell alone, and I know what 142 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: it's like to be a black person in a space 143 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: where everybody feels like they know you. 144 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: So when I saw what the two of you were 145 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: going through. 146 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 9: Listen, listen you. 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: First of all, Charlamaine is the Carlos Kinger Radio, I. 148 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 10: Normally would say and. 149 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: Definitely yes, like my spirit out of love because he 150 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: was like, I mean, you know, say what you gotta say, 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: saying now get off. 152 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 5: Your chest and it gave me a hug before and 153 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: she's crying and you was like you felt that way, 154 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: was like be crying for weeks. 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 10: And they're gon say, why see a crowd all the time? 156 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 9: And don't right for me? 157 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: I love black people, I really do. And I am 158 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: everybody's mentor. I'm known as somebody who loves all the girls. 159 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: Every single reality star has contacted me to give them advice. 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: They slide in my DMS to no shade, to you know, 161 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: hop on my shows. 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: But other than that, they do want somebody who looks 163 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: like me to say how do I go about doing this? 164 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: And that's why mentorship is very important. 165 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: To me because I want to be able to give 166 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: back to my community in a way that feels safe. 167 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 7: And I heard you mention you want to be the 168 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 7: change in the industry, right, So yeah, that's what you're 169 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 7: talking about when you said I want to be the 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 7: change in the industry. 171 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I want to be the agent of change, 172 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: because there isn't anybody at the scale of producing in 173 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: which I do that is black. I literally am like 174 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: the face of black reality production. 175 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: And I take that very seriously. 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: And that's why for me, I have given so many 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: opportunities to black people unscripted. 178 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: I have created so many jobs for people. 179 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: And there's nothing, honest to guys, that makes me happier 180 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: than when I go to work and I see so 181 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: many black people look like me and they're working for me, 182 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: and I promote them and I give them raises and 183 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: I send them off to do everything. So for me, 184 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: I want to be that because no one did that 185 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: for me truly. 186 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 1: As a black man's. 187 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: Business, you know, there's always a fine line between storytelling 188 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: and exploitation and reality TV. 189 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: How do you know when you've crossed it? And do 190 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: you care? 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: I do care? I do care. I have a chow 192 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: called Bell Collective. 193 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 4: A wonderful woman named Marie Monroe has a mother who 194 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: abuses drugs currently and has been doing that since Marie 195 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: was a little girl. It was Marie's decision to have 196 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: that story be told on the show. We told the 197 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: story in one particular episode. Marie was looking for her 198 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: mother and she was searching for her through crackhouses, and 199 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: we were following it, and we of course wanted the 200 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: end of the story to be she was getting healed, 201 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: because that was Marie's intention. The moment I saw that 202 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: this woman had a problem that didn't look like she 203 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: was going to be healed, I ceased shooting with her, 204 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: and I said that at some point will feel like 205 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 4: we're exploiting this woman who clearly still has a drug 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: abuse situation that is prominent today. And I did not 207 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: want to be somebody to use my millions of viewers 208 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: and audiences to show a black mother dealing with that 209 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: for the rest. 210 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Of the show. So I sees production on that. 211 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 7: One, and then even not even before you get to her, 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 7: even some of the other extra crad kids and some 213 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 7: of the houses that you'll followed them in, they was 214 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 7: probably like, damn yit, I ain't telling us that they 215 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 7: was coming to day. 216 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:56,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the real crackhouses of Atlanta will be fired. 217 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: Carlos King Radio. 218 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 10: Call manage for the rest of it. You are one 219 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 10: of the girls, not one of the girls. 220 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 9: Do you know this? 221 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 5: Us gays love you. 222 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: I tell you love me. They called me. 223 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 5: They say, I'm trade what. 224 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: Means no, but it's. 225 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 9: Trade is and clocking in. 226 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: The trade is a black masculine well not black, a 227 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: masculine man that looks like this, you know, with your 228 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: basketball shorts and T shirt and yes, yes we like 229 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 4: run around over here. 230 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 10: That's for you to say. They'd be like, he's around 231 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 10: he so they I'll be like, my god, I was walking. 232 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: Out of the bag. 233 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: What happened walking out of vickcom It was about four brothers, right. 234 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: I didn't even paid no attention. I'm walking right, so 235 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm mind of my business. Aunt Charlamagne, don't you walk 236 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: over here? Don't you walk back us with all that 237 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: ask and I say nothing. 238 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 8: We love. 239 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: When I went back exactly. 240 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 7: So I want to go back to something that you 241 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 7: said before. You were saying that you know you wanted 242 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 7: to be the change in the industry. What were some 243 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 7: of the things that you had to go through before 244 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 7: you even got to that, like you ever mistreated in 245 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 7: the industry before you got to. 246 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: Where you are? 247 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I good question. I remember. 248 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: Being a producer and I worked really hard and I 249 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: climbed the ladder the right way. I was a PA, 250 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: a P I had every step in this business. And 251 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: I remember I had these sentimental who I thought were 252 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: like everything to me, and long story short, I reached 253 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: out to them for advice, like, oh my gosh, you 254 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: know I have an opportunity to be an executive producer. 255 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I need some advice. What should I do? 256 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: Do you know an agent? Should I get an agent? 257 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: And all these things. Long story short, they went behind 258 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: my back and tild my bosses. I did not deserve 259 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: the promotion. Wow, why Because what I have learned in 260 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: this business is everybody wants you to do great as 261 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: long as you're not doing better than them. 262 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: And that was a tough pill for me to swallow. 263 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: And I remember crying about that because it was my 264 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: first time experiencing betrayal. 265 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: From people who I thought were looking out for me. 266 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: So when I experienced that, I said to myself, no 267 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: black person in my willhouse would ever have to go 268 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: through that again. And that's the reason why my company 269 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: I have an open door policy. 270 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: I speak to everybody from the PA to the grip, 271 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: to the sound person to. 272 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 4: The executives, because I want everybody to know that when 273 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: they work with Carlos King, we're gonna have a great time. 274 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna work really hard. 275 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: But you also have somebody where the owner of the 276 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: company is gonna shake your hand and speak to you 277 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 4: and say thank you at the end of the of 278 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: the of the shoot. 279 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I was always wondered about black 280 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: reality TV stars. They seem to not get the same 281 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: like mainstream deals or magazing covers. Why do you think 282 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: the industry still treats black reality stars like they decided 283 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: this is the not the entree, especially when they had 284 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: success like Real Housewives of. 285 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 10: A lot of people talk like that about NII. They 286 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 10: feel like she should have more. 287 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: Yes, MEMI to me is the Meryl Streep of reality television, 288 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: and we're gonna put some respect on her name. 289 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: For sure. 290 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: We all have benefited from nine Leaks, and I'm comfortable 291 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: saying that giving the woman her must do in this business. 292 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,359 Speaker 4: I think when it comes to black reality stars, unfortunately, 293 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: just like any black woman in any industry. You aren't 294 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: given the invest that you deserve. You're not, whether it's 295 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: the music industry, whether it's journalism, whether it's you know, 296 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: the medical field. It's an unfortunate fact that when it 297 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: comes to black women in any industry, black women lead 298 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: the charge. They're the curators, you know, they're the tastemakers. 299 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, advertisers feel like if they're not white, would 300 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: the consumer buy into that? 301 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: And I think they will. And that's why we look 302 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: at Porsche. 303 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: Williams capital p the cover of People magazine. Bernadine Peters, 304 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: Angela Bassett. Yes, you know, like you look at Porsche 305 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: and listen, I'm gonna say this because I believe in it. 306 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: I think Porsche Williams is currently the black Kim Kardashian 307 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: of our time, and I think we need to look 308 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: at her as somebody who is going to make so 309 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: many strides in this business. And I believe strongly. Her 310 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: People magazine cover her illustrated that fact. And when I 311 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: saw that, I was like, where's her deals? 312 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: Now? 313 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm like that to me, that to me really showcased 314 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: like this woman is about to set things on fire, 315 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: like she did that car. 316 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 10: You said it was iconic. 317 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: Well, like I think Portia is so iconic, and I 318 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: just love her so much because again, she's what Charlie 319 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: Mane I just talked about. 320 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: She's vulnerable, she's funny, she's. 321 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: Authentic, and you know, she's having a season where she's 322 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: going through a divorce and that's challenging. 323 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 9: I think any woman. 324 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: Is going through divorce sees that and understands that. And 325 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: if you have never gone through a divorce, I think 326 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: you will never understand what that does to a woman. 327 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: It does something to a woman, and I've seen it 328 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: with Ninny Leeks. I've seen it on my Show's Loving Marriage, 329 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: I've seen it across the world, and. 330 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: I think we have to really give her some grace. 331 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 6: I was gonna ask, did you see the interview that 332 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: Simon recently did with Page six where he I did 333 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 6: How did you feel about that interview in him throwing 334 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 6: a lot of the blame on I think. 335 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: That I think it's one of those situations where I 336 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 4: don't know Simon. I'm as Simon at the wedding for 337 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: the first time, the Nigerian one, because at the time 338 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: I was with an African who looked like Charlie Mayne. 339 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: Was he from the Miley Regent That's where I'm from. 340 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: I don't know, you know. 341 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 9: He couldn't related to Simon. I don't know. 342 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: Plus one for the wedding. 343 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we alone, my gosh, circumstance, yeah. 344 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 9: All my cut. 345 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: So my thing is I'm being so began me. 346 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I like a good. 347 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Amount of protein. But my thing is this. 348 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: I met Simon at the wedding day, the Nigerian wedding. 349 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: It was Me Giselle Bryant sitting next to each other, 350 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: and I saw the love in that room. 351 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: And you have to be there to understand there was 352 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: love there. 353 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 9: I am shocked. 354 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: That Simon has decided to go this route when it 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: comes to creating a narrative about his wife. 356 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: Listen, I wasn't there. I was in their bedroom. 357 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, But I do think when 358 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 4: it comes to a man at the end of the day, 359 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: I do think there's some sort of protection that needs 360 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: to happen to where you have to look at her 361 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: mental health and understand that. I do believe that everybody 362 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 4: should tell their own story, but I do think it 363 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: comes to a point to where it could be too much, 364 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: and I think as a man, you have to decide, like, 365 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: I got my point across and I'm done. And I 366 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 4: hope that Simon, in his quiet times, understands that I 367 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: feel like he did an interview, he got his story out, 368 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 4: and I think now is the time to be like, 369 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: all right, bro, we heard. 370 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: You also too. 371 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: You got to look at it and think to yourself 372 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: how much of that is projection? Because I mean he's 373 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: going through a lot of trying. 374 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 3: For sure, he just was locked up. 375 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: You got deported, Yeah, set up like shopping a whole 376 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: new place, even though you're from there, Nageria. 377 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 4: I don't know he's Nigeria. 378 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 10: I mean he can go between both, but I think 379 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 10: he's in there. 380 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just can't come back to the mark. I 381 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: just think when I saw the interview, I just saw 382 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 2: a lot of projection. 383 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw a lot of pain. 384 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 4: And listen, I'm not here to dissect that man's emotion 385 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: and what. 386 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Is in real or not. 387 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: I believe he obviously, Listen, I know there was love 388 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 4: that I was at the wedding and Portia teared up 389 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 4: and I saw so much love between those two that 390 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: that I am shocked. 391 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: That things are worth at now. 392 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: But with that being said, I do think at some 393 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: point you have to put down, you know, the missile, 394 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 4: just say I will deal with this now privately, so 395 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 4: hopefully that happens. 396 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: Has is that all the questions about I know you want. 397 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 10: To get it out? No, no, No, that's it. 398 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 399 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 7: Has doing reality CV ever been challenging to you to 400 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 7: the point where you were like, all right, look, I'm 401 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 7: done with this shit, like I'm walking away from this. Like, 402 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 7: has there ever been a moment where it got personal 403 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 7: for you? Although it's business? 404 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 5: Oh, Jess with the cook You know what I'm saying, I. 405 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 3: Learned, I learned a little bit. 406 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: You know. 407 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: Look I think, oh, okay, I'm gonna say this now. Okay, Look, 408 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: I think there is a time to where you have 409 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: to take inventory of what's happening in an industry. And 410 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: I look at reality television now and it's not what 411 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: it used to be. I started in two thousand and eight. 412 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: Like I was there when Needy Lee's had a quick weave. 413 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 9: Okay, you know what I'm saying. 414 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 4: I was there when Charae had broking gates in her 415 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: million dollar home. You know what I'm saying, Like I 416 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 4: was there when things were real, and women joined the 417 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: show because they were like, this could be interesting and 418 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: obviously listen, be famous and all those things and whatever. 419 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: I don't like where it's hitting to where I feel 420 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 4: like a lot of people joined this show for the 421 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: wrong reasons and they don't understand that. 422 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: It's it's a. 423 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: You're doing a deal where you have to exchange your 424 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: privacy for publicity. And when you hear reality stars saying 425 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: I ain't talking about that, that's too real, or when 426 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 4: they use social media to turn people against the production 427 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: because they don't like the fact that the audience doesn't 428 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 4: like them in this particular episode, you know what I mean, Like, 429 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: we all have bad moments. 430 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: You know. 431 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: I felt for you when you, you know, talked about 432 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: your situation. 433 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: I feel bad for you. You're good, but you know, 434 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: because he loves, he. 435 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 9: Loves, he's like me. He's like he like speed. 436 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: Right, that's Charlamagne. You get the G in the end 437 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: of the e because the G is. 438 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: Silent, Okay, So so for me, I do understand that 439 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: this is a tough industry because of social media. And 440 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: I have said that social media has killed the reality 441 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: star because social media has poisoned. The reality start into 442 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: behaving in a way that pleases them. 443 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: And the reality star. 444 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: If they're not strong enough and if they don't have 445 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 4: the right people around them, they can fall into that 446 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: trap and they can lose opportunities because nobody wants to 447 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: be around somebody who constantly is berating some one when 448 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: you're like, we. 449 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: Were good, Oh but that episode aired. 450 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: And you don't like the feedback that you're that you're getting, 451 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 4: so now all of a sudden, it's editing fought. 452 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: But baby, during the production, we were good. 453 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 5: You know, we had a watch party, was great, you 454 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 5: got the episode. 455 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: You was like yay. And then user three oh seven. 456 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: Nine you be and you like production and it's like 457 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: come again. So those days to me are definitely diminishing. 458 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: And that's the reason why look reality with the Kings 459 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: of Hip podcast, and that's why I'm so happy to 460 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: announce that we have partner with Black Effects. He King Effects. Yeah, 461 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: So shout out to Charlotte May. I really appreciate you. Listen, 462 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 4: You're somebody who I always looked up to since your 463 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: days being with Wendy, and I feel like our stories 464 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: are so parallel because I know what it's like to 465 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: be the psychic and I know what it's like to 466 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 4: just want to be able to of course service the 467 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: person who you're working for, but also have your own 468 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: dreams and desires. 469 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: So with my podcast. 470 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 4: Joining the Black Effect Network, you know, expect things to 471 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: be bigger and bolder and listen. I think for me, 472 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: it shows that you have two black men who are 473 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: powerful in their own individual industries. But I believe this 474 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 4: partnership will show the world and the community and the 475 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: culture that two black men okay can join forces with 476 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 4: no ego and figure out a landscape to where we 477 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: can do business on a multi level scale. So the 478 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: fact that this partnership is happening me and I'm Charlie 479 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 4: made about to make a lot of money. 480 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking forward to, you know, learning the 481 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: world of unscripted you know, through you. Yeah, that's what 482 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: I want Black Effect to be a multimedia you know company, right, 483 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: multimedia production company. 484 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: So you know we've already talked about doing unscripted stuff. 485 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, including a show with your wife and your kids. Well, 486 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 4: I love that because I'm really single, and I love 487 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: it when you have a partner who's support No, no, no, no, 488 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: maybe I love that Charlote made Steve Harvey I look 489 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 4: and and Lebron I love it when you have a 490 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 4: partner that is supportive. And one thing I have listened 491 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 4: to you talk about your wife, you, Lebron, Gucci with 492 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: Akisha k R and Lebron, You, Lebron, Steve and Gucci 493 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: have all said I'm good, but I'm great because. 494 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: Of my wife. 495 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 6: When you mean, when you see him and his dynamic 496 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 6: with his wife, you realize that, like literally, I thank 497 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 6: God for her because she is And I watched him 498 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, you need that, Like it's like 499 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 6: Yin yang, like she is the She's the one, for real, 500 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 6: She's amazing. 501 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 10: She would never do that show though, And. 502 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 6: She said, we're gonna sit down. 503 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 9: No, no, We're gonna sit not have and have dinner. 504 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: But there'll be no cameras around. Yeah yeah, yeah. 505 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: But question when you talk about, you know, working alongside 506 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: people and one of your just do where are you 507 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 6: and Mona Scott Young today. 508 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's my mentor forever and ever and ever. 509 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 4: She was on Reality with the King. The beauty of 510 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: moment is this. 511 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: People really tried to pit us against each other. 512 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: I've learned so much from Mona Scott working with love 513 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: and hip hop. And I saw this black woman baby 514 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: come in and set ship on fire. 515 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean with. 516 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: Her wisdom, her knowledge, and I've learned so much from 517 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: her and she and I we were just at conye 518 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: Lando's Foundations celebrating the BT Awards two weeks ago in La. 519 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: She is and always will be a woman that I 520 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: have great respect for, and I do feel like when 521 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: it comes to Mona, a lot of people do not 522 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: understand the stride she made as a black one of 523 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 4: the music industry, you know, alongside the Lake Christ Liity. 524 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: So no, I love Mona. We're good. 525 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: Was that at one time you felt pressure of delute 526 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: black narratives fit mainstream expectations. 527 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: No, no, no no. 528 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: And it's funny because a lot, a lot all of 529 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: my shows are starring black people. And I received the notion, 530 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, do some show with some white folks. 531 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that I wouldn't. 532 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: I'm a storyteller first, But for me, I hate that 533 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: because when you say, why don't you do shows with 534 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: white people or why you only do shows with black people? No, 535 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 4: one talks to these other production companies and say, you 536 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: have a lot of white shows because they look. 537 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: At it as it being mainstream. 538 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 4: And when you say that, you're I'm gonna say it, 539 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: you're pretty much calling black. 540 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: Folks second class citizens. Why not? Why aren't we able 541 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: to work together? 542 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: And that's why our collaboration with my podcast in Black 543 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: Effect is really one of my ways of showing people that, Sure, 544 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 4: I could have went to this network, on that network, 545 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: and we had so many offers, but when Dolly Bishop 546 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: flew to Dollar yes I'm the president of Black Effect. 547 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: When she reached out to me and said me. 548 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 4: And Charlie Maine would love for you to be a 549 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: part of our network, it was enough brainer for me. 550 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: I literally and my management will be mad because. 551 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: I thought myself doing the meeting, like, yes, I'll do it, 552 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: but you know do they think? But I was thrilled 553 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 4: to know that we could work well together and really 554 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: show people that listen, I saw a center's baby and 555 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: I'm all about black ownership and black power. 556 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're not just producing shows, You're building a brain 557 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: with Kingdom Ring. 558 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: So what's your vision for Kingdom Raging beyond even television? 559 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so listen, we will be a multi media production company. 560 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: We will do podcasting, we will do unscripted television and 561 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: scripted and with me at the helm of this production company, 562 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: it's all about really following the trends of where we 563 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: are now. You and I spoke about that two weeks 564 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 4: ago with what Kai Sanata is doing. Yeah, so, like, 565 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: there's stuff that I want to do. I'm a disruptor 566 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: in this industry, and I want to have fun creating 567 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: stuff that people are like. I had no idea you 568 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: were thinking about that, So expect more from us in 569 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: all facets of his industry. 570 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: You did. 571 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: When you watch what Kai is doing, do you think 572 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: that would work in reality TV? 573 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: Could you do a reality show that's live like that? 574 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 8: Yeah? 575 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look what Juski is doing with his 576 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: dating showing YouTube. 577 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 9: It is edited. 578 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: But I also I say all that to say, there's 579 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: an audience that wants to see someone of that status, 580 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: of that status doing something unscripted realm and I think 581 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: what Kai is doing can definitely working unscripted, just. 582 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: Like having cameras in the house doing your live. 583 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: Love Island is like the hot shown out right now 584 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: and it comes on six days a week and that's 585 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: like around the clock and all that stuff. And I 586 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 4: think me and Charlie mainshakal Kai and figure out what 587 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: we can do together to really show some live elements 588 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: what he's doing. Absolutely not to put you on a. 589 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Spot high, but you know we can do it. 590 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: Put them on the spot. 591 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 6: Yes, do you think that Bravo this is a hard left? 592 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 6: Do you think Bravo owns owes Kenya more? 593 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: Some money money? 594 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 9: Well, look, I don't know Kenya's deal. 595 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't know Kenya's deal, but what I will say 596 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: about Kenya Moore is I work with her, and I'm 597 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 4: gonna say this, Kenya Moore is one of the rare 598 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: reality stars who did everything for that show Everything, What 599 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: does everything look like? 600 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Kenya Moore cared. She cared about telling her own personal story. 601 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: She cared about asking questions where things would be swept 602 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: under the rug. She cared about who was joining the show. 603 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: She cared about if they fit. She cared about making 604 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 4: amands with people. She cared about making sure that Carlos 605 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: King was happy, you know, like she cares about She 606 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: cared about that. It was very sad to see her 607 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: be let go. But what I will say is I 608 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: think there's an opportunity for her to return, and I 609 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: think she deserves to return. She is the sheer definition 610 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: of a force multiplier. And I want Kenya Moore to 611 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: be somebody who understands her value and her worth and 612 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: to do whatever her heart's desires. And if that's coming 613 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 4: back to the show, fantastic. If that's doing other. 614 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: Things she has a YouTube channel she's doing. 615 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 4: We all love Kenya Moore and she is forever the 616 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: American Black beauty of our generation. 617 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: As you something as a producer, right when you look 618 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: at own and you make up like sixteen said sixty 619 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: nine percent of the continent, I think about what fifty 620 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: cent did with starts. 621 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: Yes, what Tyler Perry does would be to yes. 622 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: Is that the movie is that how producers should be thinking, like, 623 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: let me lock in with a network. 624 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: And yeah, honestly, listen, our industry is going through a crisis, 625 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: and I love so much. 626 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: Listen. I grew up watching Oprah Win with my mother. 627 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: So to be able to have a production company that 628 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: I own produce sixty nine percent of the shows for 629 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 4: her network under the leadership of the president Tina Perry, 630 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: they hit up unscripted you tapping. To be able to 631 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: work with them, Charlotte Maayne, and to provide so many 632 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: shows for them, that is the goal to share that. Yeah, no, 633 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: and I have such respect and adoration for them, and 634 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: they do for me and I will forever for the 635 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: rest of my life as I have breadth of my 636 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: lungs to produce for that network. 637 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: They have given me so many opportunities. 638 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: I host reunion shows for the shows I produce for 639 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: the network, and we have an amazing work relationship. But yes, 640 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: I think that is a future and I think listen, 641 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: I think it's with any situation, you find a home 642 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: that loves you, respects you, and values you. 643 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 9: And OWN is that. 644 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: And look, I'm able to produce for the networks, but 645 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: for me, nothing is more valuable than my relationship with OWN. 646 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 647 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say the network. 648 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: There was a network that came to me one time 649 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: and it was like, Okay, we want you to be 650 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: the producer, and you're gonna be with this writer and 651 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna be working with three. 652 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: Producers and three writers. Yeah, so figure it out. 653 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, So clearly that's I guess that's 654 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: what these networks are going nowaday. 655 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: Well, listen, but you have to really, and I think, 656 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 4: just follow the model that works for you with fifty 657 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: cent has done for stars and you know has done 658 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: for subscriptions for that platform. You have to know your 659 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 4: value and your worth and I think, listen, you are 660 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: Charla Maine, and I think you can go to any 661 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: network and get a show green lit. For sure, that's 662 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: what you want to do, but also think there's something 663 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: valuable by going to one home saying why can't I 664 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: just produce multiple shows for you guys versus just like 665 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: constantly running around finding a home to do that for. 666 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: Which network for the bag, but not locking you into 667 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: a multi show deal before on. 668 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 5: So, Lauren, your bob looks good. 669 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 6: For real because I felt like you should ad a 670 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 6: situation from Bravo. I felt like VHR like there's a 671 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 6: lot of networks that you've been loosely associated with but 672 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 6: that we know but behind the scenes in a big way. 673 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 6: Why didn't it happen after all the Real Housewives success 674 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 6: and what's going on in Carlos. 675 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm somebody where I go where I'm valued, 676 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: and sometimes what that means is not that there's. 677 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: Any beep or anything. But when you grew up. 678 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 4: In this business, right, sometimes people see you as one thing. 679 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: And what I love about OWN is they saw me 680 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 4: as a formidable producer, but they also saw me as 681 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 4: an extraordinary CEO. They also saw me as talent. So 682 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 4: to have a home that sees you as those three 683 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: things is what means the most to me. And look, 684 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: I pitched to all networks and I love them all too. 685 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: However, I value a network like OWN. 686 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: That sees Carlos King as more than one thing. And 687 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: the fact that Reality with the King has a show 688 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: on Own. 689 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: Okay that comes on July eighteenth, so watch it Like 690 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: that's dope. 691 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: Like for them to come to me and say, we 692 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 4: see your hit podcast, let's create a talk show for 693 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 4: our network, you know what I mean. But I also 694 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 4: have a show idea. Can you produce it? 695 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: So I listen. 696 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 4: I have nothing but more love and respect for them, 697 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: and it shows I'd rather you see. 698 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: I'd rather see you doing that on OWN. I mean, 699 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: Andy Cohen been at Bravo doing the same thing for ever, 700 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: so I would rather see Carlos King doing that on 701 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: producing shows, having his own talk show. 702 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 3: It just makes all the sense. 703 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, if that what led to that conversation you just 704 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 6: had about like being seen in the proper way, Is 705 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 6: that what led to because there's always been a rumor 706 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 6: that there's like this thing with you and Andy Cohen 707 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 6: that isn't the best relationship. 708 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's false, that's false. He and are fine. 709 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: I have said this to him personally and I'll say 710 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: it publicly. He is somebody that you have to be 711 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: blind to not see that. He paved the way for 712 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 4: people like me, for producers to be able to host, 713 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: for re unions, for producers to be able to be 714 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 4: seen as talent. And we're not going to negate that 715 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 4: for him again. When you are two people doing great work, 716 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 4: the audience wants to pitch you against each other. 717 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: They try to do that with the two of you, right, 718 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: They tried to do. 719 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 4: That with Brandy Amonica and the fact that you two 720 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 4: came together brand the Amonica now on tour. 721 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to fall into that trap. 722 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: I am an amazing version of Carlos King and at 723 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: the same time, in my same breath, I can give 724 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 4: Andy Cohen his prosper being the best at what he does, 725 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 4: and I think when it comes to social media who 726 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 4: love to try to say you're. 727 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: Trying to beat him. 728 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 4: I'm not. 729 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 9: I really am not. 730 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 4: I own a production company, I have a podcast, I'm. 731 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: A YouTuber according to Wikipedia. You know what I mean. 732 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 4: I want my people, and I'm gonna talk to my 733 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 4: people alone, because a lot of them do say that 734 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 4: he's trying to be some stop falling under the microscope 735 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 4: of us being compared to somebody who is white. Sure, 736 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: it's you are really shedding light on your own insecurities. 737 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: I'm not insecure. So when people say, I'm not offended 738 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 4: at all. But I do want my people to really 739 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: respect what I have done, and respect my name, and 740 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 4: respect my legacy, and respect what I have done for 741 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: my community and what I'm still doing. When you go 742 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: on set of a Carlos King show, You're going to 743 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: see people who look like my cast I'm. 744 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: The only one doing that, the only one. 745 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 746 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 10: Do you feel like you get that respect? 747 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: Now? 748 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 4: No? 749 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't. 750 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 4: No, no, listen, the rain drops my pants, they see it, 751 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: but no, listen, I don't. 752 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: But I don't do it for that. I'm a very 753 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: spiritual person. 754 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: I know that God gave me this life to honor 755 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: him when. 756 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: I reached the prily gates. 757 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 4: God is not gonna say not hold on, honey, let 758 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 4: me see what they said about your social media child 759 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 4: the shaved room posting like they're not going to do that. 760 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: And that's the reason why don't crash out. Is the 761 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 4: reason why when people try to come from me, I 762 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: don't respond to them because I understand that. 763 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Y'all need that. 764 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 4: Social media is a playground of misfits, and every once 765 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 4: in a while I like to go on the playground 766 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 4: and throw saying you know what I'm saying. 767 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: By looking through the comments, we all, do you see 768 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: your post that shady like? What is saying? What he 769 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: is saying? 770 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 9: Are they? 771 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: Are they saying what I think they're gonna say what 772 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking? So I get all that. 773 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 4: It will never affect me to the point where I'm 774 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 4: going to lose the respect of people who give me opportunities. 775 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: Ain't none of y'all worth that? Nah? 776 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carlos is marching in the NYC. 777 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: Yes, Gods love who serves over four million meals for everybody, 778 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 4: And I'm so excited to partner with them. 779 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 1: So I'll be here on a float and we're gonna 780 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: have fun. Yeah. 781 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 9: So God's Love. 782 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: It's an amazing charity that I'm a part of. And 783 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: again I'm a spiritual person. 784 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 4: So the partner with an organization who does great work 785 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 4: for the community. I'm honored that they have chosen me 786 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 4: to represent them on Sunday. 787 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: Make sure you support Coles King and all he does 788 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: man the podcast. 789 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 3: When this podcast is very. 790 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 5: Well no, well, now they're on the Black Effect. Prepared 791 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 5: to be sick of me? 792 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, I am going up, so rain Drops exclusive. 793 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 4: Listen up rain Drops now that Reality with the King 794 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 4: is on the Black Effect Network. First of all, download 795 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 4: the app. Okay, they got recently Shady, which is Bryant 796 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: and Robin Digson. 797 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: They got the latest with Laura bro So they have 798 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people. 799 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 4: So I'm going to be dropping between four to five 800 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 4: episodes a week. 801 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 10: You coming from me because I'm daily. 802 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: Well you know, listen, there's room for everybody. Yeah, yes, 803 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: I will as long as I don't have a bob. 804 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: You in good hands. 805 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 3: Hair, Thank you? 806 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 10: So what's happening? 807 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: Nothing? 808 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 10: What's going on? 809 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 3: Girl? 810 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: Girl? I look, I think it's. 811 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 4: Follow you yeah, so follow me Instagram, TikTok x at 812 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 4: v Carlos King Underscore. My YouTube is at v Carlos 813 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: King Underscore. 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