1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast. The Rocket Top Tennessee addition, as 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals head to Nashville and look to knock off 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: the seven and three Tennessee Titans. Coming up, I'll talk 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: to locker room favorite Trenton Irwin about his first NFL 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: touchdown catch and his promotion to the Bengals fifty three 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: man roster. Charles Davis will be in the booth for 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: CBS this Sunday and has some very interesting things to 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: say about the current state of the Bengals, especially the 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: offensive line. Then, and this week's Know the Faux segment, 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Nashville broadcaster John Burton gives us the inside scoop on 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the first place Titans. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: to you by pay Corps. More than twenty nine thousand 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: customers trust pay Corps to help them recruit, pay engage, 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and retain employees. Learn more at acorps dot com. Now 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since the good guy factor. In the 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Bengals locker room. There are roughly seventy players on the team, 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: including the practice squad, and I can honestly say that 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: I can't name a single jerk. The guys are fun 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: to deal with, very accommodating with our request for interviews 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: and radio show appearances. And trust me, that is not 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: the case in every NFL locker room. The Bengals have 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: done a phenomenal job of drafting and signing players who 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: enjoy coming to work and enjoy each other. I think 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: it's a huge reason why this team got so good 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: so fast. Now let's get to football. Perhaps the biggest 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: question this week involves the status of Jamar Chase. Will 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: he return from his hip injury this Sunday. Here's what 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor had to say at the beginning end of 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: the week when asked if Jamar could be back. It's 34 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: hard to say, you know, it's it's We'll start working 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: him back this week to see where he's at. I 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: don't want to make any predictions on that, but everything 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: is a kind according to plan so far, and now 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of getting out there on the 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: grass and seeing where he's at and what's his comfort level, 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: what's our comfort level, And so that'll truly be a 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: day to day process, you know, really starting today tomorrow, Wednesday, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how he factors in on 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Sunday Lawrence thing for him, it really is hard to predict, 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: you know. It's again we told him to stay off 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: of it for four weeks, which he did, and so 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: now you get a chance these last couple of days 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: to start getting him going a little bit. And so 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: really hard to make a prediction on. It's a balance 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: of soreness, pain, everything is so great impossible to make 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: the predictions. Jamar did practice on a limited basis on Wednesday, 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: That's the day that Joe Burrow does his weekly news 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: friends to discuss the upcoming game, and naturally, he was 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: asked about the possibility of having Numero Uno back on 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: the field. You know, we'll see how he's feeling. You know, 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: we expect him to play. I know he ran yesterday 56 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: and he felt good, so we'll see how it goes 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the week. Although Joe said we expect 58 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: him to play, I would take that with a grain 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: of salt. The Bengals will obviously proceed with caution, because 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: the last thing they want to do is put Chase 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: back on the field before he's ready. Jamar has missed 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: three games, and while the first one went horribly the 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: loss in Cleveland, they've scored forty two and thirty seven 64 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: points in their last two games without him. One of 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: the guys who has really contributed during Jamar's absence has 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: been Trenton Irwin, who caught his first career touchdown passed 67 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: last week at Pittsburgh. Joe Burrow praised Irwin's work ethic 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: after that game, and I asked Zach Taylor about it 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: this week. He lives in the facility. I think he's 70 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: got a room somewhere in the facility. I promise you, 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: whether it's the offseason, the preseason, if you hear basketball 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: bouncing from my office and I picked my head out, 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: there's probably Trent getting up shots because he just worked out, 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: or he just stretched, or he just did something. You know, 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: we're most guys, or a guy on an off season, 76 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: summer or whatever it is. He just kind of lives here. 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: And and that just doesn't mean he's just killing time. 78 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: He's he's trying to achieve something. Whether it's getting with 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Darren extra for special teams work, you know, just mentally 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: trying to trying to be better on special teams because 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: he understands the value of that as a receiver when 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: you're not a starter, how that fits into play. And 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: so again he has done. I promise you, Trent goes 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: to bed at night knowing that he did everything he 85 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: possibly could to be ready for his opportunity when it comes. 86 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: And so those are the types of guys that you 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: can just see. I mean, that's one of the few ones. 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I watched the TV copy of that touchdown just to 89 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: watch the reaction from the players, the coaches on the sideline, 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: to staff members, because everybody in here knows how hard 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: the guy works and how much heaters are of that moment. 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: Trenton Or when his twenty six years old and has 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: been with the Bengals for four years, nearly all of 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: it spent on the practice squad. I caught up with 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: the former Stanford cardinal Trent, and I asked Zach Taylor 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: about you this week, and he said, quote, he lives 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: in the building. I think he's got a room here somewhere. 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: And then he said he goes to bed at night 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: knowing he did everything to make the most of his opportunity. 100 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: What's your reaction to those comments. Well, I mean that's 101 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: a compliment and a half right there, But I mean 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: that's not how true. I do stay in here a lot. 103 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: I try to come in here off days every time, 104 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: for sure, But you know, even the bye week, I 105 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: just stayed here instead of going at home and just 106 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: just trying to be the most prepared I can be 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: for when the opportunities come, and they've been coming more lately, 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: So happy for that. Your teammates went bananas when you 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: caught your first NFL touchdown catch last week. What did 110 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: their reaction mean to you. I think it was pretty cool. 111 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. I actually had like a dance 112 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: ready and they all showed up, so I was like, 113 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: I wish I would celebrate together, but that's the way 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: I want to do it anywhere, celebrate together of the team, 115 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, just having that reaction, And actually I think 116 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: part of that too was having last week's taken away 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: with the call there, so everyone was like, ah, you know, 118 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: you had it, and so it was good to get 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: back in the zone. Yeah, let's go back to that touchdown. 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Catch because I think it was a touchdown against Carolina. 121 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: You're just on the edge of the end zone. You 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: reach out. It's a question as to whether you got 123 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: both feet down in bounds. I watched the replay a 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: bunch of times. I think your right foot was down. 125 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Did you get ripped off? I feel like I got 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: ripped off. I do, I do, one hundred percent. But 127 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: it's one of those they call it incomplete on the field. 128 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: It's hard to overturn type of things. They made up 129 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: for it in the next game that we made it happen, 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: so it was. It was tough, it hurt, but it 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: turned back around. Yeah, the good news is you didn't 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: have to wait long to get the one that counted 133 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: last week against the Steelers. Let's describe that play. Are 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: you the first option there? Do you have a pretty 135 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: good idea when they snapped the ball? Did Joe's coming 136 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to you? Not at all? Not at all. TV was 137 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: the first option there. I was supposed to help it 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: out for TV, and they played different covers than we 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: were expecting and a little scramble drill. You know, Joe 140 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: put it in a good spot and made a play, 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: and I really had no shun no idea. I was 142 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna get that ball, so be prepared every time they 143 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: snap it. You received a game ball after the game. 144 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Where is it and where will it ultimately wind up? 145 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: Game ball is It's definitely in my condo right now, 146 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: just sort of chilling there. I took it with me 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: all through the airport on the airplane, you know, through 148 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: the bus, all that good stuff. But I'm gonna send 149 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: it back home and get it frame or get it 150 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: in a box, however you frame a football. I've learned 151 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: that one. I've known that one. Yeah, some sort of 152 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: glass case or box or something. I'm guessing we're visiting 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the Trenton Irwin. During the last three games, you were 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: elevated from the practice squad to the game day roster. 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: A team can only do that three times during the 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: course of the season. You played so well that you 157 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: have now been promoted full time to the fifty three 158 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: man roster, get a nice pay raise among other things. 159 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: But is it a relief. It's definitely a huge compliment, 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's you know, getting up there three 161 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: weeks in a row and then getting the fourth week 162 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: to fifty three. You know, that's that's always the goal 163 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: for me. But I mean it's you know, it's not 164 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: nothing I haven't proven. You know, I've been able to 165 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: go a weekend, week out and make some plays and 166 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to continue to make some plays when the 167 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: opportunities come. You guys scored a bunch of points each 168 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: of the last two weeks without Jamar Chase. What's it 169 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: saying about the offense that you guys were able to 170 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: thrive without him? I mean, Jamar's special, He's special and 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: everything that he does. But our offense has been able 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: to tick, and you know, ball has been spread around. 173 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: People have been making plays, different people making plays between 174 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Joe you know, Borough obviously, but mixing and T and TB. 175 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: So I mean it just shows that we have a 176 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: lot of pieces on this team, both through attitude and 177 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, playmaking ability to be able to create explosives 178 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: for the team. Trying to hit your fourth year with 179 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals, much of that time has been spent on 180 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: the practice squad. What's the hardest thing about doing all 181 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: the work during the course of the week and not 182 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: getting to experience the joy of game day. Man, It's 183 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: a tease. It's just a tease. Every week. You know, 184 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: you I love the game, I love the preparation, but 185 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: being able to make a play for the team, to 186 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, have that adversity, that moment, 187 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's like something you crave and it's 188 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of tease to just be that practice, 189 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, going through the motions type of thing. But 190 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: you can't be going through the motions if you want 191 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: to be elevated because you've got to continue to get 192 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: better there. So it's it's been a tease, but you know, 193 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: as long as it is, I'm playing playing ball on 194 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: the team right now, so I'm happy. Do you find 195 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: a way to turn practice into a game. I think 196 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: they do a very good job of that. I think 197 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: they do some competition drills, um. But also on scout team. 198 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: You know me, Stanley's been there for some time with me, 199 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: and we always we always said our Thursdays of our 200 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: game days when we weren't active. So you had to 201 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee this week, knocked them out of the playoffs on 202 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: their home field last year. I'm sure the fans are 203 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: going to be salty on Sunday. What do you expect 204 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: the atmosphere to be like? Oh, it'll be rowdy. For sure. 205 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: It'll be rowdy, you know. I mean they're they're coming 206 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: coming for us. But I mean this is it is 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: like a playoff game as well. You know, we gotta 208 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: come out there, we gotta win, this must win. So 209 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think we all approaching it 210 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: with that manner, and I think I think the results 211 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: show in their last seven games, they have not given 212 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: up more than seventeen points in regulation. How would you 213 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: describe their defense? Wow, I didn't know that's that. Um, 214 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Their front is definitely the strength of their defense there, 215 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: their front sevens, you know. I mean they showed that 216 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: in the playoffs as well. But you know they're they're 217 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: in every position. They're just a little bit nasty, they're physical. 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna play that way, and that's that's 219 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: very able there. You know, that's him going pick up 220 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: those types of guys and it's gonna be a competition. 221 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: But I think we're going more than seventeen. So final 222 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: question for Trent and Irwin. You joined Dave Lapham and 223 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: me on a radio show a few weeks ago. Somebody 224 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: approached you and asked you to sign a box of 225 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Velveta because you were in a Lvita commercial when you 226 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: were a kid. Is that the all time weirdest autograph 227 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: request you've received? And as it started a trend, so 228 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: I've signed two Vilviata boxes. Is it the all time weirdest? 229 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Some kids be creative with the weird stuff. I signed 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: the fork ones. I don't know why I was signing 231 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: a fork the Velvata boxes. Those are always fun because 232 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: it shows that nos background information. But I mean it 233 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: probably up there is one of the weirdest. I've even 234 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: signed a fork. I tried to figure it out. It 235 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: didn't look pretty. It did not look pretty, but it 236 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: was what it was. I handed it back to him. 237 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: It was a metal fork and who was happy? 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Find both inside 246 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals app The road of the Super Bowl last 247 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: year included a stunning nineteen sixteen win over the top 248 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: seeded Titans on their home field. It was the first 249 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: road playoff win in Bengals history, and they pulled off 250 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: the upset despite Joe Burrow being sacked nine times. So 251 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: what's it going to take to do it again? I 252 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: discussed the matchup with one of the guys who will 253 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: call the game on TV this Sunday. I had Eagle 254 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: and Charles Davis will be in the booth for CBS 255 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: this week, and the former Tennessee safety joins us. Now, Charles, 256 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: you had the Bengals Steelers back in Week one. You 257 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: also had the Bengals Jets game. But I want to 258 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: go back to that first game. What did you think 259 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: of the Bengals when you walked out of the booth 260 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: at Paycourt Stadium that day? Well, the first thing I thought, 261 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Dan was I didn't give enough credence to a cardinal 262 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: rule and an adage that I'm quite aware of and 263 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: believe in, and that is it offensive lines take time, continuity, 264 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: is real. The best ones have played together, spent time. 265 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: You know what's that great phrase, it's all through the 266 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: NFL now time on task. They've all done it. And 267 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't just happen just because you're bringing new people 268 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: who are very good at their positions, and then you 269 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: throw in Lyon Collins really didn't practice all the run 270 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: up too, like he wouldn't get like one two days 271 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: in before the season opener. So when you put it together, yes, 272 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: Lyon Collins is an upgrade at right tackle, Alex Kapp 273 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: is an upgrade at right guard. Ted Carriss is an 274 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: upgrade at center. You're hoping that Cordell Volson will be 275 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: an upgrade eventually, at least with him, he was a rookie. 276 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: So you exactly you said to yourself, okay that and 277 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna take some time. And Jonah Williams, 278 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: you knew it was a proven factor. But we went 279 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: into that game and let me rephrase that, I went 280 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: into that game, Wow, I can't wait to see this 281 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Bengals offensive line. And they struggled rough ball game. And 282 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: let's face it, just about anyone who plays Pittsburgh's going 283 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: to struggle, and they did but fast forward to just 284 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: last week, and you've seen an offensive line now that's 285 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: had time on task. If I'm not mistaken, Dan, every 286 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: guy has made every start. You don't get that in 287 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: the league very often now because of injuries and all that. 288 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: And boy did it show up against Pittsburgh last week. 289 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Seven If you just want blood down to one stat, 290 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: seven sacks has given up in the first game, two 291 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: in the second game. Just off of that, you've seen 292 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: the improvement, but it was a lot bigger than that. 293 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Now this offensive line is a factor as expected. And 294 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: that's my takeaway from week one. So how good is 295 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: the group? Ten games? In middle of the pack, top third, 296 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: not near the bottom. What do you think of the 297 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: offensive line? Definitely top third and trending upwards getting better. 298 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: You know they've hit their stride now to where they 299 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: go into it and they're not having to account for 300 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: each other as much as believe in each other. And 301 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the difference for me is very simply this. In the opener, 302 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: you were counting for each other. Zach Taylor as a 303 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: head coach and play caller had to count for that. 304 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: Brian Callahan, do I keep tight end and more to 305 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: chip and make sure I'm protecting my quarterback. Do I 306 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: make sure the back checks it before he gets out 307 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: into a scout? You know, no scout protection where he 308 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: just gets out, but keep him in. Do I do 309 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: those sorts of things? I think there's a lot less 310 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: of that now in watching them over the last few 311 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: weeks and seeing them being able to do that, and 312 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: when they look at each other, they kind of know 313 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: what the move is without having to call out the 314 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: code words and do things like that. Although I'm sure 315 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: they're still playing communication going on. That's what good offensive 316 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: lines do, but they're definitely one of the better ones. 317 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get the credit for it because the 318 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: numbers are so heavily skewed from the beginning of the year. 319 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: When you give up thirteen sacks in your first two games, 320 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: you're playing from behind the rest of the year Dan 321 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: as we well know. But I think that if you 322 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: take it from let's say two weeks ago to the 323 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: rest of the season, then you're gonna be able to 324 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: compare them to say, oh, people will go, oh wow, 325 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: that's a really good You know, they've come together, so 326 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I see them, I see that happening for them and 327 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Look when you can protect him, look out, 328 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: He's tough enough when you don't protect him. Because that 329 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: opening game, the Steelers won it, But did the Bengals 330 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: actually lose it? I think a case could be made 331 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: on that. We're chatting with Charles Davis from CBS. So 332 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals are six and four right now, they're the 333 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: seventh and final playoff seed in the AFCNE How good 334 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: are the Bengals right now? They're good enough to play 335 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: against anyone. I know. Everyone's talking about their schedule, and 336 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: my colleague out of Marchiletta talked about it last week 337 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: on the broadcast, and he's right, Bengals have to earn 338 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: their way, okay, because there are no soft touches for 339 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals all the way out the rest of the season. 340 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time, everyone who plays them is 341 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: feeling like, oh boy, gotta get ready for this squad. 342 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: And when you look at numbers and again, I'm not 343 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to go Vince Scully here, God rest his soul. 344 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: One of the greatest ever. I SI love how Ben 345 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: could weave a stat into something and make it sound 346 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: so incredible. And he's now batting two seventy five on 347 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: a Tuesday when the temperature is four degree and you're 348 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: like whoa, and you're like what was that? Right? But 349 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: it felt really important. But you look at the numbers 350 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: for the Bengals offensive offense, they're very good except for 351 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: the running game. Defense really good, Okay, especially when you're 352 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: talking about them shutting people down on third downs and 353 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: getting off the field. You know things that you like 354 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: what you see from them, all right, you like this. 355 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: You count on the experience, even with injuries things come along. 356 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a tough out for anyone 357 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: they play, and a lot of people are gonna talk 358 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: about games looking even because of records. They remind me 359 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of San Francisco six and four. But 360 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: I think a case could be made they're the best 361 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: team in the NFC, Cincinnati six and four and in 362 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: second place in their division. There's a case that can 363 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: be made that that's the team you don't want to 364 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: deal with. That's where I think Cincinnati is. Right now, 365 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: you've got a Vince Scully imitation. I'm impressed. I just 366 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: love it right there. How many times have we listen 367 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: to Vince Scully give us a stat and we've just gone, 368 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. And then later on you thought to yourself, 369 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: who computes what the temperature was on a certain date 370 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis in nineteen forty seven, Ben Scully? Didn't 371 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: It sure sounded good to me. All right, let's doc secondary. 372 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: That's the position you played at Tennessee. The Bengals have 373 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: lost chittabey a wuge. I think he's a top five 374 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: corner in the NFL. You can't go find a guy 375 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: like that in the middle of the season. How good 376 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: is the Bengal secondary without him? Obviously they're reduced without 377 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: him because he's what you said, he's one of your 378 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: top players, and he's only gotten better and better in 379 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: his time in Cincinnati. You know, he was relying on 380 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: so much talent in Dallas, but then he refined it 381 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. And he was a guy who liked to 382 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: take on the challenge. He wanted to travel with the 383 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: number one receiver. He wore CB one across his heart. 384 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: He wanted to be that guy sending me, well, you 385 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: can't do that now because it's not quite the same 386 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to do, you know, figure some things out 387 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: at corner. But that's where Cam Taylor brit comes into play. 388 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: This is why he was drafted, and I think he's 389 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: gotten better as time has gone on. And I love 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: a Loua and Rumo does with the defense. But I 391 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: think now you go back and you say, okay, here's 392 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: where my veterans come into play. Jesse Bates, von Bell, 393 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Mike Hilton, three guys that could hold down the middle, 394 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: and of course Hilton going with the Nickels and doing 395 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: those things and help those younger guys out. Even when 396 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: they make a mistake, you have some more racers behind them. 397 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: They make that mistake, they keep that mistake from being 398 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: too huge. So I still think it's a very good secondary. Obviously, 399 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: without a Woozia, I think it'd be disingenuous to say, oh, 400 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: it's just as good. That's not true. Woozia is that 401 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: type of a player. The Bengals didn't have Jamar Chase 402 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: last week, they lost Joe Mixon in the first half, 403 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: and they dropped thirty seven on the Steelers in Pittsburgh 404 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: with t J. Watt back. What does that say about 405 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: the Bengals offense. It says that they've adjusted because you 406 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: remember when Jamar Chase wasn't around the first week. I 407 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: had zero doubt in my mind that they would be fine. 408 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: In fact, I opined everywhere people ask me, and probably 409 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: even when they didn't ask me, they were gonna be okay. 410 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: Remember that game, Dan, it was Halloween, It's Cleveland and 411 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: Imber I actually said on a CBS HQ. They asked 412 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: me who I liked in the game. I said Cincinnati. 413 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: I've never been stronger on a pick this one this year. 414 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: Halloween Night got me and they had to go through 415 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: a little adjustment period. But a reason my reasoning at 416 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: the time still stands for me because we've seen it 417 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: since then. T Higgins is a wr one in most places. 418 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, before t Higgins and before Jamar Chase showed up, 419 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: led the team in receiving for three straight years. It's 420 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: not a matter of him not understanding how to get open. 421 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst is a more than quality tight end who 422 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, he'll get more opportunities. Joe Mixon, Yeah, 423 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: we know the trouble running football. We've seen that throughout 424 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: the year, finally starting to come together. But he could 425 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: catch the ball in the backfield. P Ryan could catch 426 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: the ball in the backfield. So I thought that they 427 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: would adjust and Joe Burrow would find the best matchup. 428 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: That one night didn't happen very well since then, with 429 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: the growth of the offensive line. Yeah, all those weapons 430 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: are still out there. And when you get chased back, 431 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: if you get him back this week, next week, whenever 432 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: it is, things go back. Not so much too normal, 433 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: but they keep getting better because everyone gained more confidence 434 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: in doing more things while he was out. This is 435 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: a very difficult matchup with Jamar Chase or without Jamar 436 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase for any defense to deal with. Let's talk 437 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: about the Titans. They've won seven of their last eight, 438 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: the only loss in overtime at Kansas City when they 439 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: didn't have Ryan Tannehill. How is this team doing it 440 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: the same way they always do it? A head coach 441 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: who sets a tone and a tenor and some absolutes 442 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: that he makes his team play too. And his staff 443 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: they you know, they have their We all know Pittsburgh 444 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: the standard is the standard, right, so everyone has their 445 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: version of that, whatever you want to call it. But 446 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I call him absolutes for every team, okay, because every 447 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: coach says the same thing. You get what you coach, right, 448 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: do you get what you demand? Well, whatever is you're 449 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: absolute in Tennessee, absolutes are going to be. We're gonna 450 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: be strong on defense right there, number one in the 451 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: league in third down defense. And remember Dan two seasons 452 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: ago they went to the playoffs giving up over fifty 453 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: three percent on third down, the worst since the merger. 454 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: And somehow gad in any way, Right, it gonna be 455 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: tough that way, It's gonna be Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry, 456 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry until until further notice. But when Ryan Tannehill 457 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: can throw a play action off of all that, Derrick 458 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: Henry and Trailer and Burks lives up to being a 459 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: first round draft pick and can break people down in 460 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: the secondary, now you're starting to get there. Because their 461 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: numbers with the receivers won't scare you at all. In fact, 462 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: the numbers with the receivers are really abysmal. Okay, But 463 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: Henry when he's running the football, and you have to 464 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: respect that. When Tannehill gets that time and is locked 465 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: in as he was Thursday night in Green Bay where 466 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: he threw for over three hundred that night, and Burt's 467 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: had a big night in the first one he's had 468 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: all year long. If they can keep ascending like that 469 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: on all offense, then it's look out, because now you're 470 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna start throwing on first down. You're gonna go play 471 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: action right then and there and get those heavy boxes 472 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: and create better matchups in the secondary. But the biggest 473 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: thing for me is Tennessee wakes up every morning and 474 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: before their feet hit the floor coming out of bed, 475 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: they know who they are and they live to it. 476 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: And that's why you have what you have. Tennessee Cincinnati 477 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: both oh and two starts. Since then, it's been pretty 478 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: darn good. I think Tennessee seven of eight Cincinnati sixth 479 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: of eight. That's pretty strong matchup right there. Both of 480 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: them have their a strong sense of identity and a 481 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: strong sense of self. So the Bengals went there in 482 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: the playoffs, slashed year, knocked out the Titans when they 483 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: were the number one seed in the AFC. The fans 484 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: are going to be salty this Sunday in Nashville, There's 485 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. What are a couple of keys 486 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: for the Bengals to go there and beat them again? Well, 487 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's pretty simple. We just 488 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: talked about identity and sense of self. Right, Joe Mixon 489 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: is able to go because of the injury he had 490 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: last week. Obviously we're gonna treat that with majorcaution and 491 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: air on the side of that. But if he's able 492 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: to go, or if it's p Ryan and maybe tray 493 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Beon Williams running the football well enough, it doesn't have 494 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: to be beating people up. It doesn't have to be 495 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: that the old you have to run the ball in 496 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: the AFC North to win it. Yeah, you gotta run 497 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: it well enough so that you can get to the 498 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: other stuff you want to get to, and that is 499 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow flinging it out wide to Higgins, to Boy 500 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: to Hayden Hurst and just being able to dissect defense 501 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: is just give him that little extra count of time 502 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: in order to get that done defensively, not giving up 503 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: anything big in terms of Henry meet him at the 504 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: point of attack. He's going to break some tackles. So 505 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: I think the Bengals wearing white this week, a lot 506 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: of white shirts around Derrick Henry. Okay, first guy, it 507 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: can't just be him alone, because that person, I don't 508 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: care who it is, deal with Derrick Henry. He's gonna 509 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: break something, all right. You may meet him in the hole, 510 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: you may meet him in the backfield. He's gonna get 511 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: a a little more than what is there? Your key 512 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: as if it's only one person, might be a lot 513 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: more than what is there, multiple people getting to Henry 514 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and then making sure you don't give a chance, give 515 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: Tannehill a chance to get off growing the football. And 516 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: right now that's Traylan Burkes, the rookie out of Arkansas. 517 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: They get other people that they'll mix in. You're still 518 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: waiting for Robert Woods to really break out. But he 519 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: had six catches last week. But the big thing is 520 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: just like in the playoffs, don't let Henry get going. 521 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: And by the way, if I remember correctly, Dan, I 522 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: think Cincinnati Hill Tennessee to one of eight, one of ten, 523 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: one of whatever in the playoffs on third down. That's huge, 524 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: absolutely huge. 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Since then, they're seven and one. 533 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: But here are the teams they've beaten the Colts twice, 534 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders, Commanders, Texans, Broncos, and Packers. Washington is the 535 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: only team on that list with a winning record at 536 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: six and five, and the others are combined nineteen and 537 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: forty one with three ties. And this week's Know the 538 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Faux segment, I caught up with one of my favorite 539 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: people in the world, John Burton. We worked together at 540 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: a TV station in Syracuse when we were just starting 541 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: out in broadcasting, and now John is a popular sports 542 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: anchor and talk show host in Nashville, KYB. The Titans 543 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: are seven and one in their last eight. Their only 544 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: loss during that span was in overtime at Kansas City 545 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: when they didn't have Ryan Tannehill. That sounds like the 546 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: profile of a really good team to me, But for 547 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they never seem to be mentioned as one 548 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: of the true Super Bowl contenders in the AFC. Do 549 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: they feel perpetually disrespected? I think deep down they do. 550 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: They don't speak on it, Dan, you know, but I 551 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: think deep down they do because you look at where 552 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: this organization was not that long ago. They went through 553 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: a two year stretch where they were five and twenty seven, 554 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: and since then they've had a winning record every year. 555 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: They made the playoffs four straight times. This will be 556 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: five straight. They're about to win their third straight division. 557 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: They were the number one seed in the AFC last 558 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: year with a home field advantage until your guys came 559 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: in and ruined the party. And you're right, they never 560 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: get mentioned amongst the elite, either in the NFL or 561 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: for that matter, the AFC. I think it's the market 562 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: that we play in. I think it's the fact that 563 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: even though Derek Henry's a star, he's not a real, 564 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, mouthie, dynamic kind of guy. He's a he's 565 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: just a lunch pale guy. And really this organization and 566 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: this team is really a lunch pale team. They've got, 567 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, star players, Dereck Henry's one of them, certainly, 568 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Simmons is becoming an absolute stud on the 569 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: defensive line. But you know, they all kind of fall 570 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: in line to what Rabel wants them to do, and 571 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: that's just show up, and he preaches effort and finish 572 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: and you know, support your teammates. Don't do a lot 573 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: of trash talking, don't do a lot of you know, 574 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: stuff that's going to get a lot of attention. I 575 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: think Rabel deep down likes it that way. You know, 576 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: he comes from the Belichick tree, maybe not coaching, but 577 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: he played for him and won a bunch of Super 578 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Bowls with him. So I think they like it that way. 579 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: But if you asked him, if you put the wonder 580 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: Woman last or truth around these players, they would say, yeah, 581 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: you know what, we deserve more respect for what we've 582 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: done the last four or five years. What was the 583 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: local reaction after the playoff loss and what is the 584 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: atmosphere going to be like on Sunday. Well, I'll start 585 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: with your first question. Devastation. I mean, nobody saw this coming. 586 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean, with all due respect to the Bengals, and 587 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: obviously they had a great run last year getting to 588 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and maybe one Aaron Donald getting blocked 589 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: away from you know, play from the winning the whole thing. 590 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: Nobody expected that Cincinnati ben was to come into Nashville 591 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: and beat the Tennessee Titans. Titans were, you know, basically 592 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: because you look at what the Titans went through last year. 593 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: They won twelve games despite the fact that they had 594 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: so many key injuries, and they were able to rise 595 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: above it. You know, the Titans used an NFL record 596 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: ninety one different players last year and had never been 597 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: done before, and they felt like, you know what, we 598 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: weathered the storm. We got our guys back. Derek Henry 599 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: was coming back on his injury. Everybody, to a man 600 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: and a woman here in Nashville thought last year was 601 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: the year that they would at least get to the 602 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and a chance, you know, to right the 603 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: wrong that was done with them back at Super Bowl 604 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: thirty four against the Rams. It was shocked. This was 605 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: a quiet town for about four or five days. And 606 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: after Evan McPherson kicked that field goal in the final gun. 607 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: We're talking to Nashville sports anchor and sports talk show 608 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: host John Burton. Ryan Tannehill was very candid over the 609 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: summer about that game. He spoke about being in a 610 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: really dark place after the three interceptions. He saught therapy. 611 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Do you see a difference in Ryan Tannehill this year? 612 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: I do. And he's got that look at his eye, 613 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, he's a guy. Ryan is 614 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: a guy that loves to compete and loves to win. 615 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: And he's had a lot of success here being the 616 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Titan starting quarterback, taking over for Marcus Mariota mid way 617 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: through twenty nineteen. But the book on him has always been, 618 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: you know what, he's good. He's a good regular season quarterback. 619 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: He can't get you over the hump. He can't go 620 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: into Kansas City and go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes. 621 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: He can't go into Buffalo and go toe to toe 622 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. And we saw what Joe Burrow did 623 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: coming in here last year, getting sacked nine times and 624 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: getting up every time and leading that last second drive, 625 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: and of course the interceptions that Tannehill threw. So I 626 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: think he's out to prove for a number of reasons, 627 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: maybe chief among them the fact that he knows his 628 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: days here in tennessee here number they drafted Malik Willis 629 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: on the third round. He appears to be the air apparent, 630 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: although he's got a lot of work to do before 631 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: before we annoint him the next guy. But I think 632 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: he knows you know, he's thirty four years old. He's 633 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: had a good career, He's had a good you know, 634 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: reset to his career here in Nashville. He really really 635 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: wants to be the guy that to help lead, you know, 636 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans to a Super Bowl championship. You know, 637 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: we'll find out if he can do it. But yeah, 638 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: he's a different kind of player this year, and he's 639 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: been able to have success despite the fact that this 640 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: passing game up until the Thursday night game against Green 641 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: Bay has been almost non existent. You know, you lose 642 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: H J. Brown and you draft Trailing Burkes and we 643 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a pretty good receiver. He 644 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: had a really good game Thursday night against the Packers, 645 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: but he's been slow to develop. Robert Woods is more 646 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: of a possession guy that tight ends haven't really gotten involved. 647 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: You know, their best receiver has been their backup running 648 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: back don Roll Hilliard. He's there leading touchdown catchcout, but 649 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: he's been able to make the plays when the plays 650 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: are needed to be made. And he is the unquestioned 651 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: leader of this football team. Everybody in that locker room 652 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: respects him, and I think the one thing he wants 653 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: to do before he leaves Nashville or leaves the Titans, 654 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: is at least get them to the Super Bowl. So yes, 655 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: I have seen a different look in his eye this year. 656 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: Let's circle back to Derrick Henry. There have been very 657 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: few running backs in NFL history like him. He's nearly 658 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds. He's been time to nearly 659 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: twenty two miles an hour in pads when teams have 660 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: success against them, when they slow him down, you're not 661 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: going to shut him down. But when they slow him down, 662 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: how do they do it? Is it just hats to 663 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry? Is that the formula? Yeah, you have to 664 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: commit to it. You know, you have to say, you 665 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: know what, Ryan Tannehill beat us throwing the football and 666 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: with the wide receivers, in the lack of deep threats 667 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: that you have, we're gonna bang on the fact that 668 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: if we stop Derrick Henry, we'll be able to make 669 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: one or two plays defensively to maybe turn Ryan Tannehill over. 670 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: You have to commit full time to stopping Derrick Henry. 671 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: But now that you see what happens in the Green 672 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Bay game, right, tane Hill throws for three hundred thirty yards. 673 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Burkes has seven catches for one hundred eleven yards. Woods 674 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: made some big catches. Austin Hooper the tight end had 675 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. That's gonna make it a little 676 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: bit more difficult to game plan against because that could 677 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: loosen things up for opposing defenses pretty soon. If this 678 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: keeps up with the passing game, right, you're gonna have 679 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: to decide do I walk my safeties up to commit 680 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: to the run, or do I stay back in coverage 681 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: and let you know, some of these guys run free 682 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of Burke's Hooper, some of the guys 683 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned so, but yeah, the way to stop Derrick 684 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Henrys you've got to go all out and commit to it. 685 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I think in the Denver game, even though the Titans 686 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: end up ended up winning that game, that was the 687 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: best example because they basically said, Derrick Henry, if we 688 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: lose this game, Derrick Henry is not going to beat us. 689 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: Fill your gaps, get hats to the ball, bring your friends, 690 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, get and get him before he gets going right. 691 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: You gotta get him in the backfield, and you gotta 692 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: hit him low because if you don't, if he if 693 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: he gets even with the line of scrimmage, his shoulders 694 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: square as a great John Madden used to say, you're 695 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: in trouble and if he gets a step on you, 696 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: you're not gonna catch him, even at two hundred and 697 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: fifty pounds. A couple more questions for my friend John Burton, 698 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: the injuries having his pen is bad. This year is 699 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: last year, but they've still got quite a few fifteen 700 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: guys on ir What injuries have had the biggest impact 701 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: and is there anybody we should be key thing on 702 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I on this week where that is concerned. I think 703 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: the biggest injury going into this game dan is they're 704 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: starting center Ben Jones. You know he's in concussion protocol. 705 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: Did not play in the Green Bay game. He is 706 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: the anchor for that offensive line, especially in the running game, 707 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, in the center guard gaps. You know, he's 708 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: a leader on this team. He's pound for pound, the 709 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: toughest guy on this team. They did okay last week 710 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: running a football without him, but they had to move 711 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: some guys around. You know, coaches never liked to do that. 712 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: So Ben Jones is a guy who want to keep 713 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: an eye on. Also, the starting cornerback, Christian Fulton, he's 714 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: been dealing with some injuries. It looks like they're gonna 715 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: get their starting safety on Monty Hooker back, which will 716 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: be a big boost for them. But and also I 717 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: would add outside linebacker Bud Dupree. Bengals fans are certainly 718 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: familiar with him from his days with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 719 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: He's been dealing with a hip injury. He didn't play 720 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: against Green Bay. I believe he did practice today. I 721 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: haven't got the full practice report. I believe he did 722 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: at least practice in some capacity today. And you know, 723 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: you remember he had a pretty big day against Burrow, 724 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: as did everybody on that defense in that playoff game. 725 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: Even though y'all came out with the win, Burrow earned 726 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: that victory. So those are those are the three guys 727 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: you want to keep keep an eye on. But I 728 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: would say chief among them is Ben Jones because he's 729 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: the guy that anchors that offensive line and really really 730 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: powers that running game. A couple of Bengals players brought 731 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: up to Nico Autrey today, is he expected to be 732 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: good to go? He is not. And I'm glad you 733 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: brought that up because I completely forgot about him. Denico 734 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: Autrey is not going to play in this game. He's 735 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: gonna be out a while. And he's a guy that's 736 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: been fantastic next to Jeffrey Simmons, and that defensive line 737 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: leads the Titans with seven sacks this year, was on 738 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: his way to perhaps a Pro Bowl Berth maybe double 739 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: digit sacks. And he's a classic two way defensive lineman. 740 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: Great against the run, great getting after the quarterback. And 741 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: now with him out of the lineup and may make 742 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: it easier for the Bengals to double Jeffrey Simmons. But 743 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: they have guys like Tierre Tart and some other interior 744 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: your defensive lineman Niquon Jones, which is ironic because they 745 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: used to have an interior defensive lineman named de Quon Jones, 746 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: but now they just throw that in there, Dane. But yes, 747 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: Nicole Autrey is certainly a significant, significant injury for the 748 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: for the Titans, and that's going to affect perhaps Jeffrey 749 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: Simmons's effectiveness on Sunday. So last thing about the defense. 750 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: They have not given up more than seventeen in regulation 751 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: in the last seven games, which is amazing. We all 752 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: know Jeffrey Simmons, he dominated that playoff game, Bengals offensive 753 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Callahan said, he's right there with Aaron Donald. 754 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: Is one of the two best interior linemen in the 755 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: NFL other than Jeffrey Simmons, and especially since Daniko Autrey 756 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: is out. Who are the other standouts on that defense. 757 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to start with their inside linebacker, David Long Junior. 758 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: He's an undersized inside linebacker, but he brings the wood. 759 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: He's absolutely fearless, loves playing the run, extremely physical, not 760 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: that bad in space in terms of covering guys, but 761 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: he is a guy that loves to stick his hat 762 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: in there and and and create havoc. And also the 763 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: guy just mentioned a Monny Hooker, the safety next to 764 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Bayern. We all know what Kevin Bayer can do, 765 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: First team All Pro, He's been a great player for 766 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: the Titans, but a Monny Hooker is an emerging star 767 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: at that other safety spot. Very smart, knows his defense 768 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: down cold, really good against the run, really good in coverage, 769 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: and he has a knack for making plays on the 770 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: ball while they're in the air without fouling. So I 771 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: would say David Long Junior and a Monny Hooker are 772 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: two standouts other than Simmons. Simmons is the guy, there's 773 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: no doubt. And you know Bud Dupree bringing you know, 774 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: bringing the pass rush. And I'll give you one more. 775 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: Dan Rashad Weaver, second year guy out of pit. He 776 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: was having a really good year until he got hurt. 777 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: He was he was on a pace to have a 778 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: really good number of sacks. He's back healthy now, so 779 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: they've got some depth that they're outside pass rush. Something 780 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: two years ago when they went up to Cincinnati and 781 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: got absolutely torched by rookie Joe Burrow up in Citcinnati. 782 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: Their defense has really really improved leaps and bounds. This 783 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: is a top five defense, I would I would dare 784 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: say this is a super Bowl level defense. The question 785 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: is can the offense, more specifically the passing game catch up. JB. 786 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: I could go for an hour with you. We haven't 787 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: even reminisced about our times as the award winning duo. Man. 788 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: What do you need? You've got to prepare to look 789 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: dapper on the TV news and I've got a radio 790 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: show to do, so I'll let you go appreciate your time. 791 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: Great stuff has always look forward to seeing the in Nashville, Danny, 792 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: always a pleasure, you know. How. Food about you, my man, 793 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing you as well. And 794 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to this game on Sunday. It 795 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun thanks to my pal 796 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: John Burton. And that's going to do it for this 797 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: episode of the Bengals Booth podcast, presented by Kettering Health, 798 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals, by Bengals Picks 799 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: and Ultimate Bengals. 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