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Speaker 1: Second Date updated.

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Speaker 2: I saw something on Instagram recently that basically sums up

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Speaker 2: what I think a lot of our listeners are feeling

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Speaker 2: with the online dating apps. It was a guy who says,

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Speaker 2: I think my favorite part of online dating is when

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Speaker 2: you match with someone and you're talking and it's going great,

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Speaker 2: and three weeks later, someone somewhere loses interest and you

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Speaker 2: just never talk to them again, and you just keep

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Speaker 2: doing that over and over and over until you're ninety

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Speaker 2: and you're single and you die alone.

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Speaker 3: It's so true. Wow, what a romantic look, Brooke.

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Speaker 2: Aren't you upset that you got married and missed the

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Speaker 2: peak era of dating apps?

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Speaker 3: Why did I do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a guy on the phone who says

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Speaker 2: he also has become pretty frustrated with the online dating experience.

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Speaker 2: His name is Steven, So Steven, welcome to the show man.

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Speaker 4: How you doing yo?

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Speaker 3: You sound down? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I am down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Buddy probably just closed his Tinder arap right now before

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Speaker 2: he got on, So it's not going so well for you.

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Speaker 5: Huh No, I mean I just can't beat anybody. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: I was so tired. I did something pretty desperate recently.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of why I.

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Speaker 2: Called oh, oh you did something desperate. Desperate it's on

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Speaker 2: ad online.

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Speaker 4: It said soul mad psychic.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a good catchy phrase. Yeah, what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: And for fifty dollars the person was able to draw

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Speaker 5: your soul date.

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Speaker 1: For you, draw.

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Speaker 2: Like a sketch of them. That's actually great because then

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Speaker 2: you can see like when you see them in real life.

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Speaker 3: Then you know, why do I feel like they stock

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Speaker 3: your social media and then draw your eggs?

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Speaker 2: But you're right, if you see them out in the world,

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Speaker 2: you could just hold up this photo and be like, what,

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Speaker 2: we're mad. You don't bring a photo around with you. You

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Speaker 2: just know in your head.

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Speaker 6: Okay, wait, wait, you all believe that someone can do this, Well,

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Speaker 6: if it's a psychic, yeah, yeah, okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 6: go with sure.

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Speaker 2: Brook already does a believe in your soulmate before she

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Speaker 2: even knows anything about it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like either.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, we don't even know what the story is.

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Speaker 2: So you actually signed up and did this.

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Speaker 4: I did this. Twenty minutes later, I get to sketch

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Speaker 4: email to me.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's just even over it's online.

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Speaker 4: No, no, it was a phone conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, took to her, and then she draws.

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Speaker 3: What kind of questions did she ask you?

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Speaker 5: Well, she's asking me my interest, she's asking me you know,

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Speaker 5: but she's not asking for a physical description of your

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Speaker 5: perfect woman.

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Speaker 2: She's trying to get to know you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Okay, she's asking you about you.

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Speaker 1: But then she's drawing the lady of yours.

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Speaker 2: So what did you think of the picture?

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Speaker 4: So she's very pretty, that's.

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Speaker 6: Good, shocking, she didn't draw an ugly person that is

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Speaker 6: so weird.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's very lucky for him. I'm sure she draws

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Speaker 2: a lot of ugly people for other people. But what

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Speaker 2: did you do with the photo?

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Speaker 4: I put it off their refrigerator.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, okay, I didn't know what to do with

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Speaker 6: it away online. I mean, you can put it on

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Speaker 6: your dating app and say this is what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're thinking brook, okay, you fill in the

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Speaker 2: for me. Well, did anything come of it?

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Speaker 4: So, like a month later, I'm at this wedding and

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Speaker 4: I see it a woman and this a shoots exactly

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Speaker 4: like the picture.

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Speaker 1: No way? Really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, what'd you do?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: First they try it to freak out. I'm like, oh

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Speaker 4: my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now you must feel the pressure on you.

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Speaker 2: So what do you do?

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Speaker 4: So I build up enough confidence and I go over

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Speaker 4: there and I ask her to dance.

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Speaker 2: Oh, why aren't you awing yet? This is happening. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: And what did she say when you asked her to dance?

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Speaker 4: She said, yes, that we're dancing.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's happening. So now you've opened the

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Speaker 2: door for true love to step through. But the big

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Speaker 2: question is did you tell her about the soulmate photo

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Speaker 2: that was sent to you?

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Speaker 4: Well, I I told her I have a surprise for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, you're going to se What do you mean

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Speaker 3: you told her that?

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't hold it in. It's too weird, it's

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Speaker 4: too coincidentally.

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Speaker 6: Wait, so that night, we're still at the wedding reception

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Speaker 6: and you're going to pull out the picture on your phone.

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Speaker 5: No, I know, I didn't even have a copy of it. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: I'll text it to you.

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Speaker 4: I told her I'll text it.

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Speaker 3: What was her reaction though?

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Speaker 1: Did she lack?

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Speaker 2: I want to know what the caption was when you

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Speaker 2: texted the phone.

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Speaker 4: The caption was, isn't this crazy? This looks just like you?

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Speaker 6: Okay, Oh my god, how long does it take her

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Speaker 3: To your isn't about my first reaction? Is I have

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Speaker 3: a stalker?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Or are you still waiting for a reply?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she responded, She's like, wow, that's crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 4: But then it was kind of a different vibe from

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Speaker 4: then on. She I could tell something changed now and

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Speaker 4: she wasn't as into me.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, maybe you have android because that happens, and

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Speaker 6: you sent in and got blurry gobble.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't think that was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So looking back on the events that unfolded,

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Speaker 2: do you feel like maybe you shouldn't have sent her

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Speaker 2: the picture?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he should have just brought her back to his

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Speaker 3: On the fringe.

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Speaker 2: So at this point, where are you at now?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what are you gonna do? She woke it

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Speaker 4: back to me. Really I had to move on from there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: So did you call this a lady Gann and you

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Speaker 2: have a new picture drawn up?

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Speaker 5: Or I'm I'm kind of just back on the apps.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm thinking maybe I need to find

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Speaker 4: out when older. But you found her?

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Speaker 3: So wait, wait, wait, are we gonna call this girl.

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Speaker 4: For you, I mean yeah now, because it's been a

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Speaker 4: couple of months. I need yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean you need closure, man.

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Speaker 4: I know anyone would I need closure.

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Speaker 2: From what he met his so many brook and she's ghosting.

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Speaker 6: For threes okay, his life. I feel like we're trying

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Speaker 6: to force something here, but I'll be on board.

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Speaker 2: She'll give us answer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did we ever get the girl's name? By the way,

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Speaker 2: her name is zoey okaye. Well, we're gonna come back

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Speaker 2: and call your soulmate Zoe and try and get you

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Speaker 2: your second date update right after.

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Speaker 1: This second date update.

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Speaker 2: You believe in love at first sight?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Jeff?

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Speaker 2: What about Okay? So yes? From Jose and from the girls?

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Speaker 2: What about love at first sketch?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Cause. Months ago, one of our listeners, Steven, paid a

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Speaker 2: professional psychic to draw him a photo of his future

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Speaker 2: soulmate before he's ever met her. He hung it up

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Speaker 2: on his fridge, and wouldn't you know, just a short

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Speaker 2: while later, he ends up meeting a woman who looks

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Speaker 2: just like that photo when he was at a wedding.

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Speaker 2: Her name was Zoe, and they danced and got to

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Speaker 2: know each other. Everything was on the up and up

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Speaker 2: until he got home and texted her the soulmate's sketch picture.

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Speaker 2: Ye really cooled off after that. It got me thinking though, like,

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Speaker 2: how could we help him when we get her on

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Speaker 2: the phone, and maybe we could say that he drew

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Speaker 2: the picture after he met you, just from memory. He's

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Speaker 2: a really good artist that it's not like a soulmate thing.

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Speaker 3: I think he just apologizes and says I didn't that's.

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Speaker 2: Your answer to everything. Apologize for what he did.

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Speaker 3: It's a good photo. It has to be flattering it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can't lie, Like, how long is he

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Speaker 6: going to keep up that he's a good artist?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it just came to him in a

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Speaker 2: moment of inspiration. That's the point. I'm not an artist.

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Speaker 2: It was the heavens that just guided my hand in

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Speaker 2: that exactly. Sadly, though, Stephen is back on the dating

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Speaker 2: apps now, looking for older women and long distance stuff,

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Speaker 2: whatever he can get because he's so dejected.

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Speaker 3: Let's not say that, but we won't.

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Speaker 1: Bring that up.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying his mind is still wondering, though, what

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Speaker 2: about my soulmate Zoe? Isn't that right, Stephen? You've never

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Speaker 2: forgotten about her?

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't forget. This wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a couple of months she could be in

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Speaker 3: a relationship already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that we're going in with the positive attitude.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: I promise I will keep trying. Nobody in this room

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Speaker 2: is going to believe in love except for me and Jose,

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna do our best. Let's call Zoe and

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Speaker 2: see what she has to do.

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Speaker 3: The weight of love on your shoulders. It must be hard,

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Speaker 3: it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, two rings, she answered. I knew it, Zoe. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for answering the phone right now. This is Zoe right, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know that too. That was luck on that one.

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Speaker 2: But as you're on the radio right now with a

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Speaker 2: show called Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Oh Zoe, how you doing?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm okay, okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why am I.

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Speaker 7: Being cold right now?

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Speaker 2: Well? Some might say it's fate that brought us to

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Speaker 2: you today, but others would just say it's one of

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Speaker 2: our listeners named Stephen who asked us to call you.

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Speaker 5: No, no, thank you?

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Speaker 3: No, wait, hold on, do you remember Stephen?

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Speaker 7: No, I'm not no.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a picture really worked, I guess. Yeah, well, so, Zoe,

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Speaker 2: we're doing a segment here called a second Date Update

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Speaker 2: where we're trying to help Steven get in touch with

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Speaker 2: you again because it's been a while since you've chatted

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Speaker 2: since the wedding.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, there's a reason why we haven't chatted.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Well do you do you want to tell us?

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Speaker 3: I mean it seems like it's very clear why you're

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Speaker 3: not calling him.

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Speaker 2: I mean clear to him. We don't we don't know

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Speaker 6: So why wait, did he hit on your mom at

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Speaker 7: As far as I know, he hasn't met my mom,

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Was the reason. Yeah, call his back that it freaked

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Speaker 3: So where did your mom come into play here?

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Speaker 7: Even my mom's dating, she's on the apps. Whatever. I

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Speaker 7: But after that, my mom matched with him on one

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Really, your mom tells your matches?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we don't know everything about how stuff

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He may not even know, yeah, because he.

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Speaker 2: Didn't mention anything like this when we talked to him.

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Speaker 4: Zoe.

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Speaker 1: What why?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: That's how the segment works. Steven are you there.

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Speaker 4: This is awkward. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you know that you had matched with her mom?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I told you guys, I was like back on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, yeah, you didn't say you met her family.

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Speaker 2: You didn't say you went just one generation up.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so why's your mom got that young of a

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Speaker 3: Let mom live.

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Speaker 7: Is actually wrong with you? Like you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 4: We didn't know you were responding to me. You're being

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Speaker 7: Yeah, for good reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The first straw was you sending me that creepy picture anyway,

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Speaker 3: Wait, have you been talking to her mother?

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Speaker 4: And we changed the messages?

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you send is a date going to happen

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't want to ruin things with Zoe.

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Speaker 6: And I oh's prioritizing you Zoe is send the mom

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to make that stick again.

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Speaker 1: No way, okay, le Okay, Stephen.

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Speaker 7: I even showed her the picture that you sent her

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Speaker 7: to me and she still isn't you. So you guys

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Speaker 7: can just go have.

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Speaker 4: She said she's still into me?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you go enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh guys, we did it.

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Speaker 6: We found a soul.

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Speaker 3: Mad my god, this is so weird.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying you ship the relationship with your mom

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what else I can do.

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Speaker 7: I can't just tell my mom who she can and

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Speaker 7: can't date, So like, how am I supposed to talk

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Speaker 3: At this point? Do we have a double date.

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Speaker 1: Or I don't know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in default to the love expert on

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Speaker 3: I mean it's I don't.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know perfect great ideas. Okay, Zoe dinner with

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Speaker 2: either of them? Well she probably should because soon Stephen

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Speaker 2: could be your stepdad. I have to be around a

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving cable.

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Speaker 3: You need to set out with your mom if you

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Speaker 3: got the same age ring.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean we would normally offer to send Steven

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Speaker 3: Mom on first insulting. I am sorry, Zoe.

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Speaker 2: Why is that insulting?

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Speaker 4: Because that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Great, Zoe's already turned him down. He's a free agent.

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Speaker 2: He can date whoever he wants. Zoe, will you ask your.

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Speaker 3: Mom for us?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, forget all you guys. I'm sorry. This can't get anywhorse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, darn.

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Speaker 3: Actually I'm actually worried that it can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is your grandma still alive? Because you never know?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Rooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Wow, who knew fifty bucks on a soulmate's psychic picture

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Speaker 2: could work not once, but twice? Talk about value? Getting

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Speaker 2: your money's worse.

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Speaker 3: I did not even think about that. It's actually twenty

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Speaker 3: five bucks per person.

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Speaker 5: At this point.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 3: You could call it a family deal.

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Speaker 2: You really could, if you think about it. Zoe was

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Speaker 2: just the bread crumb that led Steven to his eventual destinyl.

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Speaker 3: Psychic, big families, so that this can happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what if I know we're all skeptical, but

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Speaker 2: what if they really are meant to be? Would that

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Speaker 2: Second Date update update be the most anticipated one we

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Speaker 6: Have you guys not been following this the Miley Cyrus

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Speaker 6: family drama right now? Oh my god, Her mom Tish

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Speaker 6: got married to a guy that her younger sister was dating.

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Speaker 6: The whole thing is a hot mess. Those two aren't talking.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't end well. I'm just telling you.

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