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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl, the podcast from two guys

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Speaker 1: who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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Speaker 1: now we've turned to Traders, another show that I had

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Speaker 1: never seen, while Will was convinced that he could win it.

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Speaker 1: We are Wilfredell and Ryder Strong, two best friends, one

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Speaker 1: a TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars,

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Speaker 1: join us as one more time. We step into a

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Speaker 1: castle full of lies, alliances, and over.

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Speaker 2: The top wardrobe choices.

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Speaker 1: This is the finale of Pod meets twirld Trading Places. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's finale.

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Speaker 3: That's how you pronounce it. I was saying, finally, finally, finally.

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Speaker 2: Well, this has been quite a journey man. Wow. Yeah

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: We've already announced this, but we're moving on into Survivor

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: I I want to get out of this castle. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to get into the castle.

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Speaker 1: I know you do I ultimately, and we had a

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Speaker 1: great conversation with Chad about this. Yeah, and I think this, this,

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Speaker 1: this game needs work. I think Traders is pretty flawed

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Speaker 1: as a game. Wow, I think it's a it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's especially this season, and maybe it's less so when

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Speaker 1: it's civilians or a different set of celebrities. But this

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Speaker 1: felt very reality show heavy, you know, like it felt

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Speaker 1: more like I don't know, I mean the fact that

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Speaker 1: just it just felt more performative and also left me

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Speaker 2: I think you're kind of supposed to feel a little itchy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there's a total factor to it, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I know. I think that there's like a camp quality

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Speaker 1: But that camp quality didn't detract that at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, it's a show about people lying to

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Speaker 1: each other's faces, and I just I just still don't

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Speaker 1: like that, right, Sure, No, I don't like that. I

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Speaker 1: don't like feeling like I'm on the side of liars

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Speaker 1: and I don't I don't blame them, Like I really

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Speaker 1: don't think Rob is a bad person, like at all,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't think, I don't think anybody.

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Speaker 1: But it's also like it just puts them in this

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Speaker 2: I mean we've said at the beginning that I would

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Speaker 3: But wait, Devil's Advocate, could you go the way you

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Speaker 3: tell you and Danielle were always talking to me about

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Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars. Where it's like if you just

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Speaker 3: went in and thought of it as like a role, right,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't that be the role you're playing on Traders is

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Speaker 3: as an actor, You're playing the treacherous guy, you're playing

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Speaker 3: the villain, You're playing the sociopath.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the thing, and and I think that's why

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Speaker 2: Just like slams their pictures down.

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Speaker 1: Like all of that I think is the only way

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it ultimately can't remove the fact

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Speaker 1: And maybe maybe because this is my first season and

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Speaker 1: the Traders.

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Speaker 2: Won spoiler, I mean, we're here.

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Speaker 1: But like the the fact that the Traders won, I

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Speaker 3: Which is what happened last season is all four faithfuls

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Speaker 3: one and they were like we did it, we did it,

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Speaker 2: It would feel like a triumph of honestly.

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Speaker 1: The spirit and honesty.

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Speaker 3: Where this year, I was like, I was so he

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Speaker 3: It was incredible all the way around. But yeah, the

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Speaker 2: I watched it.

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Speaker 3: I watched it three times because it was it's also

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Speaker 3: as horrible as it sounds, it's a beautifully honest moment

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Speaker 2: She went, your pinky s.

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Speaker 1: You pinky promised, you promise, legal contract, you promise. Now

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Speaker 1: you gotta lose a pinky. Now we take the pinky,

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Speaker 1: Now we.

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Speaker 2: Take the man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it reminded me of Joshmo Season one,

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Speaker 1: And do you remember how devastated he was to find

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Speaker 3: I also I am one of those people where if

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Speaker 3: then whatever happens is on you.

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Speaker 1: Well, with Joe Shmo, that was very manipulated. They were

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Speaker 3: Right right, but they were, but they knew he was

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Speaker 1: He never screwed anybody.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing, and that was you know, it's the same

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Speaker 1: I've never seen it. I heard it was good, but

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think that is always the point, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like they don't want to make somebody.

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Speaker 1: It's candy camera it's still lying, it's still manipulating, and

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Speaker 3: I just but again it's it's candid camera. That's a

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's what these things are.

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Speaker 2: I don't like any of them. I get a with

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of him either, but I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with people like at least in this case, you're

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Speaker 1: knowing what you're as as Alan Coming says at the end,

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Speaker 1: the show is called Traders. So the worst one was

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Speaker 1: a show called Film Fakers. Did you ever see that?

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Speaker 1: So it was my dear friend and amazing actor that

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Speaker 1: Chris Wilde was from this as an actor. And what

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Speaker 1: that like, haha, you're actually on a reality show.

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Speaker 2: You don't have the career.

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Speaker 3: Now do you believe that anybody on Traders was being

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Speaker 2: No? I mean, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: But of course, but if you if you sign up

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Speaker 3: are the filmfakers that would that sound?

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Speaker 1: There was another one called Scare Tactics, where they would

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Speaker 2: It's like you go into fight or flight.

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Speaker 1: So you don't get like somebody screaming, like it's more

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Speaker 1: aliens are real, I need.

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Speaker 2: To it's like you shut down.

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Speaker 1: So it actually became a kind of uninteresting show, like

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Speaker 1: And then there was the one time where they had

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Speaker 1: Great idea, perfect idea I thought for Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: That's what I like. Too. Brilliant says it. He's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they very selective in their storyline. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as you have to be all right breakfast. Eric comes

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Speaker 2: And I went, oh god, that's where I kind of

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Speaker 1: And it's like, maybe you shouldn't like take that as

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Speaker 3: Can wear overalls, not a reason to follow him into

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Speaker 3: it seemed like a rough one for you, writer, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So then Rob just comes in and this is exactly

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Speaker 1: like last episode where he's just like Johnny Dentera, with

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Speaker 1: he's literally saying we're gonna banish these two people in

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Speaker 2: Is like exactly what a trader would say.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't give any arguments, he doesn't say any doubts,

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Speaker 3: And they cut it together this episode, especially in such

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Speaker 3: a way where they're showing her doubts the whole way

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Speaker 1: No, I oh see, I was.

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Speaker 3: I was her face when when he first said when

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Speaker 1: She was like wait what like that came out of nowhere?

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Speaker 2: See her problem her?

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Speaker 1: She's such a follower, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like because every whoever she's talking to, she's kind of

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Speaker 2: And I think you know the party trusted Rob. That's

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Speaker 3: She trusted, the one guy you're not always say it's

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Speaker 1: So she trusted the wrong guy. And when do you

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Speaker 1: think because I wasn't really clear that he was turning

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Speaker 2: Until literally the fire burned.

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Speaker 3: Right, I oh see, I figured he was going to

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Speaker 3: you figured he was one hundred percent one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So do you think he was whispering in her ear?

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Speaker 1: Saying like it's definitely because the heat. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think the joy was he was letting Tara whisper

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Speaker 3: is Eric.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He didn't actually show it on camera, did he, because

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Speaker 3: Just in the kitchen she goes, I think, gets Eric,

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Speaker 3: and he goes okay, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm on board making decision.

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Speaker 1: Yes, then she makes this another one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: like that is a that is a hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: nod right there.

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Speaker 3: And with Eric, he said that at the end, he goes,

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Speaker 3: would you give one hundred grand to somebody you met

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant, brilliant.

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Speaker 3: And remember I was also thinking about what Ben said

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Speaker 3: what one forty five one fifty.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you have one hundred thy thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: and you're Lisa Rinna, that doesn't mean anything or very little.

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Speaker 3: You're Rob and you want to buy a farm and

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Speaker 3: Love Island, And yes, he's probably going to get endorsement

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Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty grand is nothing to sneeze at, right, well,

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Speaker 2: end up being more right, it's like two twenty. I think,

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Speaker 3: So my guess is after taxes and everything, you walk

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's that's going to be significant

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Speaker 3: And walking with one hundred and fifty grand is a

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Speaker 3: lot different than walking with seventy five, which is what

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Speaker 3: you would have done had Eric had he been like

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, Eric, but no, He's like, I can,

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Speaker 1: It's brilliant, he was.

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Speaker 4: He's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Johnny and Tarrek came come in, and Johnny and his

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Speaker 2: He nails it.

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Speaker 1: He knows it, and it now just becomes for the

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Speaker 1: Maura to go on their side?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like, yes, she was the this is what I love.

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Speaker 3: She meant nothing for a lot the series. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: now she's the crux of who's gonna wins. She was

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Speaker 4: Was Maura? Awesome?

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Speaker 1: After breakfast, Tara talks to Maura and says, it's Eric.

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Speaker 2: He's too quiet.

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Speaker 1: She has good arguments, which are totally accurate, that Eric

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Speaker 1: And then Mara says my favorite line, she doesn't want.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to tink too much? Can't handle.

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Speaker 1: Now here's my overall question.

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Speaker 3: My overall question is when Rob chose Eric originally, was

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Speaker 1: I think he did.

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Speaker 3: Because he knew he would be a bad trader, but

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Speaker 1: But don't you think he would have picked a more obvious,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to know because it's perfect because it's also

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Speaker 3: Eric would also do anything Rob told him to do, right,

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Speaker 3: So it's I mean, he had control of them from

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Speaker 3: oh god, you have control of your fellow trader who

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Speaker 3: And you have been the entire show, so you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like you and me towards the end, you and

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Speaker 1: Genius. He's a genius. So then they're brought outside and

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he just what would you do? What

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Speaker 1: would you do? Would you have stayed on the ground

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Speaker 2: For the chopper? I mean, the chopper is fun, Like

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Speaker 1: That's more exciting, especially since I knew because they'd already

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Speaker 1: But of course, then Robin's up completely in the water, Like.

445
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Speaker 2: Would you have done that? Would you have jumped out

446
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 2: of the chopper? No, I don't think I would.

447
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 1: I think I might have, and I think maybe just

448
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 1: for the sake of adventure, just closed my eyes and jumped.

449
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

450
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,239
Speaker 3: The whole time I'm sitting there going don't jump up,

451
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 3: don't jump up, don't jump up, don't jump I had the.

452
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Speaker 1: Same thought, man, just I would be so like, just

453
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: keep my head down, would just duck and roll out exactly?

454
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 1: Just so crazy thing. But yeah, nuts, they give him

455
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,239
Speaker 1: a chest and Rob brings it onto the helicopter and

456
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: then this is where they you know, she brings up

457
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 1: Eric in the helicopter, and I thought.

458
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 2: He just kind of played it cool like he didn't.

459
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 1: Also got his arm around her. Oh, this is where

460
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: he's like fully flirting with her because he makes the like,

461
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: I know how to make you hot or whatever.

462
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 2: I want to take a hot bath.

463
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll give you something hot.

464
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 4: I mean.

465
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 3: Oh, First of all, I'd also like to point out

466
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Speaker 3: that if you are getting on a helicopter a plane,

467
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 3: even if it's allan coming, never.

468
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: Take luggage from somebody else.

469
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 3: You know, he hands you the chest and then you

470
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Speaker 3: see something, say something. Don't don't even for alan coming.

471
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 3: Don't just take random luggage and get on and get

472
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Speaker 3: on a flight.

473
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Speaker 1: Don't do that. All right, So now they have to

474
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Speaker 1: the other The others have to ride a boat out

475
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Speaker 1: to pontoons and a lock yep beautiful luck awesome while

476
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Speaker 1: it's raining because it starts pouring, and they have to

477
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: find Scottish day. Yeah, Robin Mora have to drop the

478
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Speaker 1: names from the helicopter. So they yeah, it's a.

479
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Speaker 2: Did you get any of these?

480
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 4: Right?

481
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: No?

482
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: Me neither anything Me neither.

483
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: And I have a pretty good memory, do you see.

484
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Speaker 1: I don't think I because I'm like, yeah, I don't

485
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Speaker 1: remember things visually, so like when you ask like who

486
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: was opposite couldn't get a jam jam. I wouldn't have

487
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 1: any clue Like.

488
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Speaker 3: You would have had you been sitting across from somebody

489
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Speaker 3: for six.

490
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Speaker 2: Hours, which is how long they were, which is.

491
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Speaker 3: How long they were there at the Black Banquets, so

492
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Speaker 3: you would have remember. But like for week one, Hey,

493
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Speaker 3: what was the last often we put in like all

494
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 3: that stuff, I would not have remembered any of that.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was probably the least confident about that

496
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: because that whether Yeah, it was the five dollars one yeah, yeah, yeah.

497
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, they asked that question.

498
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Speaker 1: They asked which player started and ended on a shield throne,

499
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Speaker 1: which I don't even know what they were talking about.

500
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Speaker 3: Don't you remember the one where they they're in the

501
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: riding carriage and it's like, if you get the shield,

502
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Speaker 3: somebody has to.

503
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: Get off, right, you didn't get to get the Colton.

504
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: Was the one?

505
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right right, yeah yeah yeah okay.

506
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: And then which housewife had the most votes overall, which

507
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: was Lisa. They get that right, So they get all

508
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: of these right, they got them all right? I was amazed. Yeah,

509
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: and then there's this uh cool like finale moment where

510
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, can you you want to jump

511
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Speaker 1: out of the helicopter and get another twenty grand, which, yeah,

512
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: I guess if it really came down to just but

513
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Rob is having the best time. Hell,

514
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: yes he is. I'm like, he's getting to fly that

515
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: like after do the most exciting part.

516
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 2: He's winning this game.

517
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: This means he's going to get more money because he's

518
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: going to be the trader at the end.

519
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: And the beautiful Irish girl is in love with him.

520
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: I e. It's like perfect castle time.

521
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely surprised how many people can't swim, Like when

522
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,719
Speaker 1: when Mara says like I can't swim, I'm like, damn,

523
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Like I just take it for granted that everybody can swim,

524
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: but like, actually my mother in law can't swim really yeah,

525
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: and you.

526
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: Know, like she goes to pools, but it's just to

527
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 2: like wade.

528
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: You know.

529
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: Have you said, let me teach you how to swim? Yeah, dude,

530
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean they during the pandemic. They lived with us

531
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: and we were swimming every day with Indy teaching him

532
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: how to swim and like getting better because he was only.

533
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: Five, you know, and she, you know, no, doesn't do it.

534
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, but yeah, it's actually Columbia where I went

535
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: to college, is it's the only college left that requires

536
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: a swim test. You can't graduate from Columbia unless you

537
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: can swim, which I think is kind of cool.

538
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: That's it's such a weird thing to to like point.

539
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: Is like this is a life skill, Like, yeah, like

540
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: what's the point of having all this education if you're

541
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: just gonna drown?

542
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: You know, like you should know how to swim.

543
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: And I think it's funny matter it's not. It's like, yeah,

544
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: of course you can get out of it if you

545
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: have a disability or which I'm sure would count. Even

546
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Speaker 1: if you just had a phobia and didn't want to

547
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 1: do it, you could get out. But they keep it

548
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: as this nice like tradition that you have to pass

549
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: a swim test in order to graduate, and I kind

550
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: of love it. It's kind of like old school, like, yeah,

551
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: if you're a college educated I'm curious, what is the test?

552
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: You just have to swim a couple of laps.

553
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: I actually didn't have to do it because I ended

554
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: up taking scuba as as a course.

555
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: As and so something my vote stage, my sirt.

556
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: My first day of scuba, they just allowed you know,

557
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: I just swam like two laps and they're like, okay,

558
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: that's enough for the swim test, you qualify.

559
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 2: But the regular test is like you get.

560
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Otherwise they have twim tests. Like at the as graduation years,

561
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: they have like certain days of the week where everybody

562
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Speaker 1: can go and just take the swim test and you

563
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: just yeah, they just oversee you doing I think you

564
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: just swim to one side of the pulling back like

565
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Speaker 1: one one lab. Wow.

566
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Speaker 2: I know, I think it's kind of cool, though I

567
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: don't honestly think it's.

568
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Speaker 3: Like I'm guessing that'll go away in the next ten

569
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Speaker 3: years because people are going to be like, I shouldn't

570
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: have to take my shirt off in front of other

571
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: people to swim in and.

572
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: Then yeah, okay, you know I actually haven't looked up.

573
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it's already gone away. But no, Columbia, what's can

574
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: you know? Columbia's kind of known for holding to some

575
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: of these old school ideas, like, for instance, they have

576
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Speaker 1: two required courses that everybody who goes to Columbia has

577
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: to take. One is a year long literature course where

578
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: you study all and it's like the Great Books kind

579
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: of you know, like so it starts with Western like

580
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: it's all Western, but it's it'll start with like Homer

581
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: and go all the way to the twentieth century by

582
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Speaker 1: the end, and you have to do it a discussion groups.

583
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Speaker 1: And then the second year long course you take your

584
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Speaker 1: second year is called contemporary Civilization.

585
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Speaker 2: It's all philosophy and politics.

586
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Speaker 1: That's interesting. It's they're the greatest courses ever and they're

587
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: they're they're very variable as far as how their talkers

588
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: are mostly taught by like grad students or ta's because

589
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: there's everybody has to take it.

590
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of sections of it.

591
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: But if you get a good teacher, or even if

592
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: you don't, you have a great discussion group you know

593
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: of fellow students.

594
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: It is so much fun.

595
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: And you know, we call the contemporary Civilization ends up

596
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: being called cocktail conversation because the idea is like, really.

597
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: This is just about like did you read Aristotle and religion?

598
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: You know, it makes you sound smart, but I have

599
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: to say it has come in handy like it is.

600
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Really there are plenty, especially like when it comes to

601
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: like the Greek texts, I never would have read, sure,

602
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: never would have read a play by Aristophanes I wouldn't have,

603
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, there's and instead I was forced to. And

604
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: I loved a lot of this stuff, and I do

605
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: feel like it's come up, you know, in life where

606
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: this it's a good education.

607
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have chosen somebody's texts to read.

608
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: So I'm old school, like I'm kind of like, yeah,

609
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm all about dismantling or criticizing the canon,

610
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: but you should know the canon first.

611
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: I mean, like, sure, of course.

612
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: Question these books, like you know, especially because a lot

613
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: of them are white men who you know, didn't want

614
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: to hear from anybody else in the world.

615
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: But you still should read their their thoughts still good.

616
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: Anyway, now, but which which which one has come in

617
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: more handy that class?

618
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Or swimming? Ah, I already.

619
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: Could swim, so yeah, I mean, yeah, I would have

620
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: died swimming.

621
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Speaker 3: It's great, man, Like, that's the thing, like aristotines don't

622
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: help you if you're in the middle of the ocean.

623
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Speaker 1: Think about how Yeah, I mean there's so many. I mean,

624
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: I go whitewater rafting. Yeah, you know, I'm not a

625
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: big beach guy, but I went through a period where

626
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: I was a surfer. It was in a surfing, like

627
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: you just should everyone should know how to swim. I agree,

628
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: but I'm surprised with reality shows how often people either

629
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: don't swim or are just really bad, like they're just.

630
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: Like h it seems like one of those life skills.

631
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: Like so anyway, yeah, it else depends I think where

632
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: you grow up. Oh no, you grew up.

633
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: You grew up in the landlocked to city, city or

634
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: city something like that.

635
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I never learned how to swim that

636
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: kind of totally. Yeah, or just access to a pool, right, yeah,

637
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: like being able to afford if you know.

638
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Public polls are not what they used to be. Like, yeah,

639
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: all right, where were we?

640
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Okay, the flirting and the helicopters getting hot and heavy, yep,

641
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: blatantly hot and heavy. He's playing it so well. Oh

642
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Rob jumps out of That's where we were. He jumps

643
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: out of the helicopter. He has to swim pretty far

644
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: in the cold water. And this is where I remember

645
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: that Chad said the thing about the clock not being

646
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: do you mind it too? He's I did too, But

647
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: but do you remember what his evidence was or how

648
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: he knew that? I think because he knew everything because

649
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: it was so easy. How it was like ten seconds

650
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: left and he's like, this does feel manipulated.

651
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: He's like, didn't you notice how they always end with

652
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: three seconds left and you watch and it was like

653
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: three seconds left.

654
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: It's way too convenient. Man. I literally turned over. Sue

655
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: was watching with me.

656
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: I late leaned over.

657
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: I was like, the clock is fake. He's going to

658
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: end three seconds left and yeah, yep.

659
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: I feel that upsets me a little.

660
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: Did they ever do a challenge this whole thing where

661
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: they lost because of the clock. Did that ever happen?

662
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it did in the cabin.

663
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: Did they run out? I think in the cabin they

664
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: might have when they did all the horror stuff.

665
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: I feel like they can't remember, but I feel like

666
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: there was one that that that's something. The clock did

667
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: mess him up somehow, But for the most part they

668
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: got it in just into the wire.

669
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: Oh last season and then I don't know.

670
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: I yeah, it seems like you seempulative. Yeah, idea. They

671
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: looked cold, dude, Yeah.

672
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: You're a lock in the rain, but they were shivering uncontrollably.

673
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, this is and these are ice

674
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: hockey gold medal champions, but they are shivering like that

675
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: in the in the rain, so it was it was chili.

676
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.

677
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: Then they all head back, dry off Terra and Johnny pow.

678
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Wow, they totally trust one another. Well, first of all,

679
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: there's the car ride back.

680
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: The car ride back where Tara is like trying to

681
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: get Eric to see and even I was like, dude,

682
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: lie better. Yeah, Eric is just he was bad at

683
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: lie just lie better. But again, all this works in

684
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: Rob's finger.

685
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yep.

686
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: And then once they get back, Maura lies right to

687
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Eric's face, huh, which was super interesting to watch her,

688
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, go on one hand, be like with a

689
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: little like questioning whether he is a trader or not,

690
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: lie right to his face. And then I mean I

691
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: feel like this is where Rob knows exactly what's going

692
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: to happen for the rest of the night, because he's like, oh.

693
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: She is blind him and totally trusting me.

694
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

695
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: God.

696
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: Well, here's the other thing.

697
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: They all agreed that they thought they believed anyway, that

698
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: there were two traders left.

699
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

700
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: Maura then, because Rob says too, votes for Tara, Johnny

701
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: and Eric.

702
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she knows she's voting a faithful out.

703
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just if just by the law

704
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: of there's two of you left, she voted for three

705
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: different people that Rob wonder too, because.

706
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: She says she says she thinks that Eric is a

707
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: trader and so is Johnny, which just makes no sense

708
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: because why would Johnny be voting for Eric if those

709
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: were the two traders? Right, So her logic, it's like,

710
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: but it's also then why vote for Tara? Exactly because

711
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: Rob said, so it's right following along just like I

712
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: suspect everybody.

713
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: But Rob, but we're gonna be Yeah, we're gonna everybody

714
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: else up there, and we're going to traders or you're right,

715
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: But she's just gonna take one.

716
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: She just said they they made they pinky swore, which

717
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: again is binding in seventeen US states and I think

718
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: most of Europe they pinky swore they'd go to the

719
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: end together. So they just voted everybody else. Rob is like,

720
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: it's just be us, It's just be us. Oh it

721
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: is icky, yeah, see, but in a wonderful way.

722
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful ick.

723
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: All right.

724
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: Then we're at the roundtable.

725
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: Rob brings up Uh, Tara, and Johnny. Then Johnny Uh

726
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: is pretty spot on with.

727
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: His argument I will say this though, if you're gonna

728
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: play this game, don't do anything sketchy right off the bat,

729
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: And when you come in and you're best friends, and

730
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: you go out of your way to make to pretend

731
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: you're not best friends, to then come back later to go,

732
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: we're best friends and we've been pretending we haven't been.

733
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: Then all the traders need to do is keep pointing

734
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: to that. Look, you're the only one who did anything sketchy.

735
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Just you too. Yep, it's a stupid thing to do.

736
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: And Rob lays it out perfectly at the roundtable when

737
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: he says they would have even if one of them

738
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a trader to begin with, they would have recruited

739
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: one another because of their friendship, which is exactly right,

740
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: and just once you're once you think of that through.

741
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Not that he really needs to make that complicated of

742
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: an argument, because I MAA would have voted with him

743
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: no matter what.

744
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: But it is a great argument.

745
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's finally he's actually giving an argument,

746
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: which like before when he was just like first Johnny

747
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: don terror, he wasn't saying this clearly. But that's a

748
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: great argument, and all he needs to convince right now

749
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: is Mara. That's literally the only person he's arguing too. Yeah,

750
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: which insane.

751
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: And the second they voted Johnny out, he knew he won.

752
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Yep, that's it, he knew he had won.

753
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: Oh so they banished Johnny, who was pissed and who

754
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: had it right for the first time had it right?

755
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: It was Eric and Rob.

756
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he'll feel vindicated now. And then so after

757
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: they banished Johnny, Tara goes to Maura and says.

758
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: It's Rob, which gets a little bit of doubt.

759
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Maybe.

760
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they play this up.

761
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: But I love how they did it.

762
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: They just keep cutting to her and that she becomes

763
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 3: the most important character in the show. They just keep

764
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: cutting her, going like what if I'm wrong?

765
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: What if I'm wrong? The whole time? Oh yeah, every

766
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: boyfriend cheated on her, that's what she said. She's just

767
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: got horrible trust issues as well. She should.

768
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, if every boyfriend you've been with

769
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: is cheated on you, your your your your pick and stick

770
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: is bad.

771
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: So then they go into this final fire moment and

772
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: they do that interesting thing where they just got to

773
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: sit down with Alan before you know, they go into

774
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: the finale and he sort of gets a little quote

775
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: from both of them. Marra's looking like a robot dominatrix.

776
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: I noticed that too, like like she just come out

777
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: of the matrix. Yes, yeah, exactly.

778
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: It was also like it made her, like her arms

779
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: and everything look.

780
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: Metal, you know what.

781
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: It was like it was a good look, but it

782
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: was a great look. She's a stunningly beautiful woman.

783
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: The other thing that it finally clicked to me because

784
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm always like, God, Alan coming, amazing, fabulous, but who

785
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: does he remind me of?

786
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: Who does he remind me of? And I finally realized

787
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: that today Caesar Flickerman. He Caesar Flickerman, he hosts the

788
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: Hunger Games.

789
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never seen them.

790
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: It was Stanley Tucci plays the carrot, plays the part,

791
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: and that's exactly.

792
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 2: He's Caesar Flickerman from the Hunger Games.

793
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: And yeah, so yeah, because that has like a whole

794
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: game show element to it. And he's big and brag

795
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: he's got these big teeth and he's like, it's just

796
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: he's Caesar Flickerman for from the Hunger Games. And it

797
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: was I was watching this episode like, oh my god,

798
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: that's that's who he is. Well, even before he lit up.

799
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: My note was Alan is a blue Christmas tree, because

800
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: that's what he looked like, or like at least like

801
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree skirt, and then he lit.

802
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: It up at the end. I was like, oh my god,

803
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: I love it. You just walking Christmas tree.

804
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: I love it when Rob is back in his overalls

805
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: with his snake arms showing those are stress, feeling himself

806
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: to be a snake. Yeah. Yeah, everybody did a whole

807
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: did a sketch on Instagram or on on TikTok or whatever,

808
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's him waking up in the castle to

809
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: get ready and then walking down in his own overalls

810
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: and no shirt and then seeing Rob wearing his.

811
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: And going, god damn, it has a good change.

812
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: So funny, that's so funny. Yeah, he's been doing some

813
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: great sketches. I don't know if you've been catching them,

814
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: but I have not. I got it, we need to.

815
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: He did one where he has PTSD and he's like

816
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: at an engagement party eating cake with friends and then

817
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: thinking they're all traders, Like you're a trader and you're

818
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: where's allan He's coming out and you're it's so funny,

819
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: like Ron.

820
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: You're not in the castle, well, they're already doing that.

821
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: I saw a commercial this morning for Sonic, which is

822
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: Rob showing up at Lisa Rinna's house with Sonic going.

823
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Then she's like, I'm not letting you in here, snake, and.

824
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: He's like, I brought Sonic and she's like, all right,

825
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: come on, like it's that whole thing. Yeah, they're all

826
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: they're capitalizing money. No more money, of course, of course,

827
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: but we've got to have we've got to have them

828
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: on the show as many of them we can get,

829
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: because I want to talk to some people.

830
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: About what's going on.

831
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: All Right, they get around this fire. The option is

832
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: whether to banish again or and.

833
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: Too you go down to two and then you can't

834
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: banish anymore.

835
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: So but one by one they all burn red because

836
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: they all have a theory. There's a there's traders among them.

837
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: And the votes are completely predictable. Marra votes Tara, which

838
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: means Tara's banished. She I didn't think those are predictable.

839
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: I thought maybe mad Maara had changed her mind. Yeah,

840
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: and then this is where I thought it was going

841
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: to end. I really didn't think that. I thought that

842
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: she was, you know, in Rob's pocket enough, but still

843
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: not convinced that Eric was was a trader. But and

844
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: that's why I think he was probably in moments that

845
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: they downplayed getting her to turn on Eric, more than

846
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: he played than he actually.

847
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: Possible because I meant red too, because he could.

848
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Have just let her burn red, right and when then

849
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: they still have to vote, and at that point he

850
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: could just say, Okay, Eric, I will vote. But the

851
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: fact that he burns red and she burns red for

852
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: the second time means that he's going all in for

853
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: this move with her, which means I think that he

854
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: was saying a little bit more than.

855
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: He maybe quite possibly, we're going to do this and

856
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: then this, and then we're going to win the whole thing.

857
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: And I think he played it hard because he could

858
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: have easily because you know, also he would have had

859
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: the same result by burning green at this point, like

860
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: I said, you know, like and Eric would have been

861
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: But and this is what gets weird for me, is

862
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: like they burned red and now they have to go

863
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: around and vote. Yeah, and what can Eric say? But

864
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: why can't he just say, Maria, you're you know, he's

865
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: a trader.

866
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: I know he's a trader, Like he can't I don't

867
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: think no, because the only because I think when you

868
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: take the trader's oath, you're not allowed to say, like

869
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 3: to ever reveal, right, like because Lisa Rinna, then walking

870
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: out could be like, by the way, Rob's a trader too.

871
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: We were in the tower together, right, like, you're not

872
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: allowed to do that. So but he did say, but

873
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: he can't argue. I mean, he did say to her,

874
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: as you know, as he said he does think about

875
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: the one person you haven't looked at around this tape totally.

876
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: But see that's what I mean. Why doesn't he Why

877
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: can't he make an argument like you're gonna vote me out?

878
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: It's actually I mean, I think if there's a Trader

879
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: left among us, it's Rob.

880
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: But he doesn't even keep.

881
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 3: He tried, I mean, because then he votes for Rob.

882
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: So that's what he's trying to do. That's where he's like,

883
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: think about it. You get to think about who's the

884
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: person yet yeah, yeah, but that's also exactly what a

885
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: trader would do. I mean, if I was Rob, I'd

886
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: be like, because he looks at her and he's like

887
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 3: he shakes his head like that's ridiculous, because of course

888
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: he's got to keep playing it like no, of course,

889
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: that's what a trader's gonna do. He's gonna try to

890
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: get you to vote for me, and then he wins

891
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: all the money. Where you know you and I are

892
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: still faithfuls, let's just win this thing together, like we said,

893
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna even.

894
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: Go from there. Well, Eric is you know what? He

895
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: has this interesting quote of like speech.

896
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: To camera about how relationships matter more than the money

897
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: or the game, and it doesn't feel good to him.

898
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: I disagree. He was just he just got out played. No,

899
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying for him, he didn't get a shit

900
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: about related. He wouldn't have cared at all. Had they won,

901
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: it would have been a whole different thing.

902
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: But he then got you know that he and he

903
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: and a guy planned a bank robbery. They got in

904
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: there there right about to walk out the door, and

905
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: the guy turned to and said give me your money too,

906
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: and that pissed him off. And so then it's well,

907
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done that bullshit. I think if you'd

908
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: thought about it, you.

909
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: Really, I don't think I would have done it.

910
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: I think I would have just gone with your other trader.

911
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: So then you would have split the money with your trader.

912
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: You know, there's a there's a possibility I would have too,

913
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: like I would have there's a you know, the loyalty

914
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: among thieves kind of thing.

915
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: I guess there's a possibility I would have done that

916
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: as well.

917
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: Well.

918
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: But here's my question. Could they banish Mara. They wouldn't

919
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: have needed to, but they could have. They could have,

920
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: But they why.

921
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: Because because again, if there's one trader left, then if

922
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: she burned.

923
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: Red and and and they burned green because they thought

924
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: that they were going to win, they then at that point,

925
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: couldn't they just both vote for her?

926
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Traders win?

927
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: I think so.

928
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: But the traders win anyway, because if one trader's there, right,

929
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: then the traders win.

930
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: But I think I think if Erica I see this game,

931
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it feels so random to me.

932
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: It does not feel like that much of a strategy game.

933
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh I see. I think he's perfectly showing you what

934
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: the strategy is. He literally it was.

935
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: He was one of twenty four people, and over the

936
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: time he was there, one by one, he removed every

937
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: single person in the game until he was the last

938
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: person standing.

939
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what But That's what I'm saying.

940
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, other than these he still had got to vote, right, yes,

941
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: secret trader.

942
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, one by one he systematically got every

943
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: piece off the board until he was the last person

944
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: standing and.

945
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Walked with all the money.

946
00:40:42,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, incredible, diabolical. We have the moment where

947
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: it's revealed to her that he's a trader. Oh yeah, Oh,

948
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: it was so delicious.

949
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: It had to be fattening. It was just and it's fair.

950
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: You're never gonna have a girlfriend after this is such

951
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: a good liad man. Yeah. But then she's but good

952
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, and I appreciate that she did seem

953
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: to just come around and say like whatever, you know,

954
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: But but I just love it. She's calling him a

955
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: snake and the guy has a literal snake on his arm,

956
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: like yes, And.

957
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: I love always, like I've been a trader from the beginning,

958
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: like the whole time, I've been a trader. But she

959
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: it's so rare that you see a moment on television

960
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: that you know is going to be a meme forever,

961
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: and her face is going to be a meme forever.

962
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's like you maybe.

963
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: Look so stupid, and they're like, no, we didn't you

964
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: kind of n a little bit it's like I'm a fool.

965
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And again it's this is where the morality play

966
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: comes in, because it's like, were you a fool or

967
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: were you a decent trusting person?

968
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, And so if you're a decent trusting person,

969
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: you're not a fool.

970
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: You you know, you get to walk your head inclined.

971
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: It seemed like, yes, a part of this was that

972
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: it was kind of a love connection. The use you're

973
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: going to trust that, do you know what I mean? Like,

974
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: and that's why it's pretty crappy, you know, the Yeah,

975
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I feel like it's one thing

976
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: to like play a logical cold game where you're out

977
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: matching somebody. It's another to like kind of like sleep

978
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: with the enemy, which I don't know, you know, I

979
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: don't think they actually slept together though, but play on

980
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: the heart.

981
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of like heart strains and flairness

982
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: and like, I like, so I'm going to use it.

983
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: Hell yes, I think Eric probably looked up to him

984
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: a little bit like an older brother. It's like, I'm

985
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: going to use that relationship. I'm going to use she's

986
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: got a crush on me, I'm going to use that relationship.

987
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's I mean, that's the That's how you

988
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: win at these things is you're cold hearted at least

989
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 3: that's how you win as a trader. Like again, last season,

990
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: it was for people that you really liked, including Dylan Efron,

991
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: who by the end, my wife and I both would

992
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 3: have dated the guy where we're like, the nicest guy,

993
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: most honest, Yes, the faithful's one.

994
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: That's great. That's awesome.

995
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: They got everybody and they trusted each other to all

996
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: throw green at the end like they they got it

997
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: this time. This guy was playing so well that I

998
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: was like, I'm in. I'm all in on the villain winning.

999
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: My favorite line when he's at the end, like, now,

1000
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: I just have to find a nice girl who hasn't

1001
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: watched too much to.

1002
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Watch too much DV.

1003
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: It's so true, man, how are you gonna come back

1004
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: from this?

1005
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: Apparently, according to my wife who's in the no, he's

1006
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: dating somebody now, which I think is a terrible thing.

1007
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: Because we were talking to Ben who said that if

1008
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: this guy became the next Bachelor, it would be the

1009
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 3: biggest Bachelor season in the history of the show, which

1010
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: is saying something that show's enormous, right, So I mean

1011
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: this guy, you know, hopefully he'll break up with whoever

1012
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: is with now so you can get on The Bachelor.

1013
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Come on, watch it, Rob. I don't know.

1014
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: Treach.

1015
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: I haven't either.

1016
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll watch it eventually. Literally never seen a

1017
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: single episode. Well treacherous, Treacherous my friend, I thought, yeah,

1018
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: will you do next season?

1019
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: Don't know, I don't. I think I don't think the

1020
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: challenges are integrated well enough.

1021
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Those need to be changed. And you know, I think

1022
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: you're going to appreciate. I think after you watch Survivor,

1023
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: you're going to appreciate the kind of gameplay that that requires.

1024
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: And it's a different it's it's there's.

1025
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 3: A there's a there's a it's still a backstabbing and

1026
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: manipulating in alliances and yes, but it's there.

1027
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: It's it's there's something about it because they're the challenges

1028
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: are so linked to the actual gameplay, right, Like you

1029
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: only have to vote people out if you fail at

1030
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: the challenge, the immunity challenge, like especially as a tribe. Okay,

1031
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: so like when it gets to the individual game, it

1032
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: is similar to traders, but at that point you've already

1033
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: been through so much you start working together as a tribe,

1034
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: and also like you only have to vote somebody out

1035
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: because you have to, like it's not I don't know,

1036
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: there's the game doesn't require you to lie to people's

1037
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: face the way the Traders is like literally built on

1038
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: perception line and the whole thing is about who's lying

1039
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: and who's not survivor.

1040
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: You can play it kind of a multitude of ways.

1041
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: You could play very honorably and upfront you probably won't last,

1042
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: but you can't.

1043
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: Right, has anybody won playing honorably and upfront? Yeah, yeah, sure, okay,

1044
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: for sure, Yeah, so that's possible.

1045
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Then yeah, there are times, well here's the thing, honorable

1046
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: and upfront to their select group because you ultimately do

1047
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: have to vote. But there have been times when it

1048
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: gets down to the final three and they all love

1049
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: each other and they all respect one another, and they're like,

1050
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: well one of us, you know, and they have to

1051
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: have one winner, but they actually are like, way we

1052
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: got here together, like we did work together. We never

1053
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: lied to one another, like we made a promise and

1054
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: we kept it that you know, ultimately that does happen,

1055
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: Like that's something you know, But if anybody split the money.

1056
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1057
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like, that's what I wonder that

1058
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: can you can you say like sure, once it's your money,

1059
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: I can be like, hey, they just gave me a

1060
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: million dollars, I can give you three in a grand

1061
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, like that's on me. They can't tell me

1062
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: I can't give you money mine, right, So yeah, but

1063
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: I get my guess is they're like, oh my god,

1064
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: we got her together. Can I have some money?

1065
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: No?

1066
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: No, no, you can't.

1067
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: I think because this is our last episode, my wills

1068
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: history reeve trade her. I wanted the song to be special,

1069
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: but I also wanted to find what I think most

1070
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: people maybe would agree is the biggest trader in history,

1071
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: or at least considered the biggest trader in history. And

1072
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: I fought with this because you could go the American

1073
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: route with somebody like Benedict Arnold, you could go Marcus Brutus,

1074
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: you know, a two brute.

1075
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: There's several ways to go.

1076
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people would not disagree

1077
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: with the final trader we're going to talk about, and

1078
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 3: that is, of course, do you have a guess?

1079
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: No, those are the only two that I really know.

1080
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: Judas is Scariot of course, so no name is more

1081
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: synonymous with treachery than that of Judas is Scariot. He

1082
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: was one of the Twelve Apostles, but according to the

1083
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: New Testament, he betrayed Jesus for thirty silver pieces to

1084
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: the Roman overlords.

1085
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: However, here's the interesting thing.

1086
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: Lately, in the last twenty twenty five years, there have

1087
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: been some revisions to the Judas story with the discovery

1088
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: of the Gnostic texts called the Gospel of Judas, which

1089
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: depicts Judas as an obedient servant of Jesus. And these

1090
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: texts actually described conversations between Judas and Jesus that suggests

1091
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: that Jesus himself instructed Judas to betray him to the

1092
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: Romans so that he could be sacrificed. Again, it does

1093
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: not change the fact that when you think of traders,

1094
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: you go it's it's pretty hard pressed to find anybody

1095
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: work if you're a Judas. Way to go, Judas, So

1096
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 3: you've made it to the top of our list, Judas Iscariot.

1097
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: What would you want your name to be associated with? Like, oh,

1098
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: you totally fredeled it up? Are you will?

1099
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: Forred Dell to you pulled a Ford del something funny,

1100
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: like pulling a joke out of nowhere.

1101
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: Maybe like that was a great for Dell or Fidelism,

1102
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: something like that. How about you winning like every award

1103
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, like like the you got, like you a

1104
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize and a Pulitzer.

1105
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: I don't know, so you know some you won.

1106
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: You won the Driving at Lamonde and a Nobel Peace Prize. Congratulations. WHOA,

1107
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 3: that's great?

1108
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well yeah, yeah, you you directed a movie that

1109
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: was the highest grossing film and won the Academy Award

1110
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: for Best Picture. So that's like a James Cameron right,

1111
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: like you cameroned it. Okay, that would be pretty great.

1112
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: I like it.

1113
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: So next season you're in, You're not in.

1114
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm I don't think I'm in, man, I mean I

1115
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: I do like the idea of civilians.

1116
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: That interests me.

1117
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's coming next because they will come in with

1118
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: less baggage and I think be less performative in certain ways,

1119
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: and and I think there will be more character revelation

1120
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: as opposed to fulfillment of their pre established role, you.

1121
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. So that's that does interest me,

1122
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: and I think I'll give it a shot. I'll give

1123
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: it a shot completely.

1124
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: One agree with you that the game needs to be tweaked. Yeah, it.

1125
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: I think the challenge thing is just not interesting.

1126
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: And I mean the set pieces are cool, they look cool,

1127
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: but they've been they're just the money thing. I mean,

1128
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: I just think Chad is absolutely right, like the money

1129
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: is not that it should not be a part of it,

1130
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: or shouldn't in the same way. You know there should

1131
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: be money, but it shouldn't be so tied to That's

1132
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: all you're doing in the challenges is increasing or decreasing

1133
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: your prize money, right, all right, Well that is it

1134
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: for this season of pod Meats twirled. Alliances were tested,

1135
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: trust misplaced, and we weren't left with the cliffhanger unless

1136
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: we wonder about Rob's life afterwards.

1137
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: It will have her final love.

1138
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Join us next time as we take on Survivor season fifty.

1139
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: That's all I got.

1140
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: That's all you got. You're not going to go out

1141
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: with the with the the final final Scottish play.

1142
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: All right?

1143
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Fine, Yeah, this has been season four of Traders, a

1144
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: show in which, as Shakespeare said in his Scottish play,

1145
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: fair is foul and foul is fair.

1146
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: I think fair is foul. I take it's fou too fair,

1147
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: That was foul.

1148
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: We picky swre we pick

1149
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: H