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Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I I'm all in podcast. iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: iHeart media, iHeart podcast. We are going to break down

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Speaker 1: the Netflix episode Gilmour episode Spring. I am enjoying a yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they call them episodes, you know. And I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by Amy Sigriman, and we are a skeleton crew today.

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Speaker 1: But we've got the beating heart of the podcast right here,

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Speaker 1: left ventricle, right ventricle with the heart of it.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna be here any second, so nobody.

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Speaker 1: People will show up on the fly anyway, Amy and

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Speaker 1: I are going to take you through.

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Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be eating, but yet I'm shoving

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Speaker 3: something in my mouth. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have a little drink. I mean, it's water.

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Speaker 1: It's water.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say he made it sound like

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Speaker 1: And guess what's in here? Liquid IV is in here.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say it has a small queue to

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Speaker 3: that water that made it not look it looked a.

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Speaker 1: Little funky drinking and drinking gin liquid.

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Speaker 3: IV just to keep you healthier. Are you not feeling good?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? I drink it every day?

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Speaker 3: What does it do for you?

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Speaker 1: The liquid IV?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What does it do?

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Speaker 1: It's like it hydrates you. It's an extra hydration after

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Speaker 1: it works.

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Speaker 3: It's water in your water.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's powder in your water.

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Speaker 3: It's fully more wetness in your water.

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Speaker 1: It expands the water molecule inside your cells or something. Doctor.

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Speaker 3: So it's spring.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So I'm just gonna say this, Okay. I think

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Speaker 1: Luke issued the ultimate warning about, you know, about the show.

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Speaker 1: Unintentionally he said, stop growing. You don't need to grow,

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Speaker 1: that is a metaphor for, uh, the ambitions this, these

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Speaker 1: very lofty ambitions of this particular film spring because it's

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Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls is a small town show, and it seems

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Speaker 1: Because if I had just discovered Gilmore Girls via Netflix episodes,

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Speaker 3: If anybody watched the films that did not watch the show,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a percentage of people that discovered it

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Speaker 3: You watched the movies, I sure did, so I will

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Speaker 3: answer Scott's question.

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Speaker 1: So tell to take us through it. So you discovered

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Speaker 4: of that, like taking you back to like I didn't get.

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Speaker 5: I got that Luke was like I don't want anything

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Speaker 4: Okay, He's kind of like wants to be stuck, not

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Speaker 5: Wow, I know'd you. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 5: But then I still enjoyed it because I'm from a

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Speaker 3: And everybody, when Logan shows up, would you be like,

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Speaker 3: Jess, I don't want to have any spoilers, but like

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Speaker 5: I like Milo because I was watching this as all right.

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Speaker 1: So we so we experienced as a cast this incredible

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Speaker 1: expansion of the fan base on a global basis that

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Speaker 1: we didn't notice until we were doing pr for these

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Speaker 1: If we did if Warner Brothers announced that we were

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Speaker 1: In a completely fractured market. I mean, it would be

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Speaker 3: How I feel about Sex and the City. And I

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to have it because it's so this

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Speaker 1: Right, and they're still around exactly. You know what. Maybe

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Speaker 3: And watching the movies again, they are so much better now. Interestingly,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Should we go through it? Danielle. I

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Speaker 2: No, on the eleventh of never, Absolutely, Danielle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're coming.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you through the synopsis any day of the week.

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Speaker 2: So this is a year in the Live Episode two

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Speaker 2: spring air date November twenty fifth, twenty sixteen. Synopsis. Rory's

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Speaker 3: So okay, so let's call out the flag right away, right, uh, Tristan.

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Speaker 3: Tristan like, why do we need to have? Like that

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Speaker 3: It was just so dumb.

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Speaker 3: It didn't have quite an enough. I did enjoy the.

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Speaker 1: Therapy, we can I did not. I did not great.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk, I love I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get chronological. I mean, we'd started out with therapy,

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Speaker 2: Well, and I don't like about the therapy is the therapist.

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Speaker 2: The therapist wants absolutely nothing to do with helping us.

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Speaker 2: She was out and I'm like I wish the therapists would.

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Speaker 1: You didn't watch?

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Speaker 2: No, I watch it. It took me three nights to

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Speaker 2: And right, I've never gone to sleep in a Gilmore

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Speaker 1: a scene together, you're gonna see totally different techniques. And

439
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: Alex Kingston is bringing a theater technique and she's bringing

440
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, she's created a character from scratch and and

441
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: and it's just this sort of amazing comedic performance, completely

442
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 1: connected and and and you know, Alexis doesn't have that

443
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of experience on stage, right, she doesn't have that training.

444
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: She's very natural, she's very appealing. She's really good with

445
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: light comedy, very breezy, very easy. You know, she's she's

446
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of really really great attributes that you'd

447
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: want an actress to have, But put up against somebody

448
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 1: with the resume of an Alex Kingston, your eyes just

449
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: go right to Alex Kingston. And I just thought, you know,

450
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm I could I could watch this forever. I can

451
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: watch a master craftsman crafting for a long time.

452
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: And that.

453
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: No, I I loved her. I loved her that character.

454
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 3: Now I did misspeak because first before her, we have

455
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: the lunch scene with so we we open up on

456
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: Logan and Rory, which I was happy about. And they're

457
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: in this nice restaurant eating and be bop. Hello, here

458
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: comes mitchm So this is where we get the Mitcham reveal.

459
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: He's in the same restaurant, and Rory's kind of shook

460
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: because she realizes, like, hey, does Mitcham know something's going

461
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 3: on with us?

462
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, here's another example of a real Bravora talent

463
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: coming on screen and lighting up the screen the way

464
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: Alex Kingston. Here's comes Greg Henry and it's like boom,

465
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: there's this big energy and there's this character and he's

466
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: bold and and then these two, you know, it's it

467
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: seemed like Alexis and Matt were or I'm sorry, Rory

468
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: and Logan were depres They seem like depressed people almost

469
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: where they don't have a lot of energy and they're

470
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: just sort of like getting through their day. And I mean,

471
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that, but but but

472
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: it's like compared to the energy of a Greg Henry

473
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: and you know, Mitcham huntsburger and an Alex Kingston's name.

474
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: You're not wrong, Greg Henry s right. Mitcham rolls in

475
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: and it's like woo, and we're all kind of like

476
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: the big reveal and Mitcham and like for core fans,

477
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: they're like, aha, another surprise character.

478
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: And nobody's and and and you know, and and Rory

479
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: and Logan are not being terribly expressive with each other.

480
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: And they're not You're right that they don't seem happy,

481
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: and we unfortunately get the reveal that he's engaged to

482
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: Odette or whatever name was, and that was.

483
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: Where you like, what, Yeah, for sure, I'm like, there's

484
00:25:53,560 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 2: so much bird to this. I can't even handle it

485
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: so bad. I'm starting to realize white people don't like

486
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: Logan and I hate to say that that's so heartbreaking

487
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: for me.

488
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: It's also Rory.

489
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I don't like Rory since season one.

490
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: I hate to break it to everybody.

491
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: Logan, okay, so let's let's rip off the band aid.

492
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: Logan is blatantly cheating on his fiance now maybe they have.

493
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: Something, and cheating on her boyfriend, right, but what I

494
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: know she shuts herself up for such like why are

495
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: you doing this?

496
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 3: Why don't you just say to Logan Paul of the engagement,

497
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: let's be together, Like obviously these two love each other.

498
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: We know that they're totally drawn to each other. They

499
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: are kind of endgame, and why are we even dealing

500
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: with this? And it's so weird. Why is he engaged

501
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: to someone else and not her when he clearly wants

502
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: to be with her? And why is she even with

503
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 3: the guy she didn't even know his name. It's just

504
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: it's super.

505
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Dumb, very dumb, very very dumb. And also it's like

506
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: her being so self conscious that Mitcham saw them, Like,

507
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: I get it, but then I'm also like, you're making

508
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: it a bigger deal than it needs to be. I

509
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: don't know.

510
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: It's just weird, you're so self conscious about it and worried.

511
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 3: Why are you doing it?

512
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: Correct?

513
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: Like, and if do you really care what Mitcham thinks?

514
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: We've been through that for ten years, and why are

515
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: you doing this? Why are you doing this?

516
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: Also, it doesn't work structurally as a film because I

517
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: already know what it's supposed to be about, but it

518
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: really doesn't stay on that spine right. The storytelling seems

519
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to be all over the place because it establishes this movie.

520
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: This episode, this ninety minutes is about a mother daughter

521
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: passing it out in the therapist's office and where this

522
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: is going to lead, and it's like uh oh, and

523
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: then we now we're all over the place.

524
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: It's so funny you say that it's.

525
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Twenty seven minutes. I stopped taking notes.

526
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: I watched this a couple of days ago, like two days.

527
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: My hand's tired.

528
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I watched this two days ago. And

529
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: when I got I got I started to come sit

530
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: down here, and I'm like, what happened in spring Like

531
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: it's kind of a gooblelygook mess Like.

532
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Well, everything happened, and nothing happened. Therefore nothing happened. So

533
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: many things happened that you don't know. You can't remember

534
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: one thing that happened.

535
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: Therapy, We've got logan, We've got we've.

536
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Lost your appetite, Like, you know, you don't feel that

537
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: good and you're kind of sleepy.

538
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, Messie, it's super messy. It's messy,

539
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: all right.

540
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 2: So we thought this episode literally, and I kind of

541
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: said this earlier, it literally made me miss everything about

542
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Goma Girls. So I don't know if it was intentional,

543
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: like the fact that Suki wasn't there, the fact that

544
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: Tristan was not real Tristan I was.

545
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: That was bad bananas. I was totally bananas.

546
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Do you here yet? Like you know, I'm like, guys,

547
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: where are all the things that I love about Gilmore girls?

548
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: It's missing from this episode?

549
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: And why have a fake Tristan? Just don't have Tristan

550
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: at all? Why have I don't have as much issue

551
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: with just a surprise.

552
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: There's like a quick cut to an old Korean guys.

553
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: Like they just wanted to say he exists because because

554
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: people had wondered is there a mister Kim? So I

555
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: think that was their way of going, like, here's an

556
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: easter egg, here's mister Kim, but the fake Chad, like

557
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: we don't need that, like we didn't.

558
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: And also, not only would Tristan come back, but a

559
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: whole storyline about Tristan who's not really there, who.

560
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: Got kicked out of school, right he's not going to

561
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: go back to children, I know her alumni day and

562
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: giving money and the whole thing, like that's the last thing.

563
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: That looked like he had a head twice the side

564
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: of Chat, twice the size of Chat.

565
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: I think his hair was brown like.

566
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: And was it weird that we didn't get who'sy and doozy?

567
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: But we did get what's her face? Give me the

568
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: names he didn't get, you know, Whosy and Doozy, you know,

569
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: the two best friends from Chilton that I.

570
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: Love, Madeline and Franz and Louise.

571
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: No, it was we got Francy.

572
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Madeline and Louise. You're right.

573
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I'm not alone with people. The names are

574
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 3: hard guys. So that was weird, but we're not there yet.

575
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: All right.

576
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: Now we go back to the town meeting and Taylor

577
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: really wants the gay Pride parade, which I did.

578
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: And there's no way people in stars Hollow.

579
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: First of all, that's kind of weird, but I did

580
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: I have to say this when Gypsy says was there

581
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: any one else that could be in the parade? That

582
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: I was kind of a musing, like come on. So

583
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: that was That was all good. But then we're just

584
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: getting all this sort of like stuff about the parade

585
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: and you know so and so, and then we get

586
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: the B list celebrities or at the inn and YadA YadA,

587
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: and the big names or you know in the neighboring

588
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: town Woodbury. It's just kind of like messy. And then

589
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: there's the like hint of.

590
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: We have let me, let me, let me just comment

591
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: on this. Do you know how hard it is to

592
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: just become a C level celebrity or a B level celebrity.

593
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: It's like, do you have many A list celebrities there

594
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: are in the world.

595
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: We'd all be stoked to have some B listers that.

596
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Are ten maybe ten. You think there's ten.

597
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: I think there's a No. I could name one hundred

598
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: A listers right now, just if you wanted me.

599
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Hundred people and one business in a global business. There's

600
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: one hundred people.

601
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Sanders Winsley, Matthew McConaughey, Jennifer Lope

602
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: has been Affleck, Matt Damon. I mean I can name

603
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: a hundred, I think, but I can name five hundred B.

604
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: I think acting is not an honored profession and I

605
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised or offended I.

606
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: Get named so many. Oh, there's many movie stars, and

607
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: yes there are B listers, but B listers are like great,

608
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: but also so is Joe Schmoe if he's paying the

609
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: bills at the end, Like why are we caring?

610
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: But I think it's unfortunate language. It sounded disparaging against

611
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: actors and I kind of took offense to it, not wanting.

612
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: To because you're an actor.

613
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Well you know, listen, you know, our job as actors

614
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: is to tell stories that can affect people's lives in

615
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: very positive ways. Obviously, the actors that you know, the

616
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: B level actors or the C level actors all in

617
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: this show, and you know a couple of you know,

618
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: melissimated through the A List helped a lot of people

619
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: throughout the world. And to have the writers of the

620
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: show that created this make a joke about the levels

621
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: of actors and the B list and they're not wanted

622
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: and they're just vain, ridiculous people who all they want

623
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: to do is look at themselves in the mirror and

624
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: workout I thought, you know what that few man. You

625
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: know what I do and what actors do. It's a

626
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: great responsibility to represent humanity properly, and we, you know,

627
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: we take grain great pride and great pains in doing that.

628
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure that it's offensive to actors to be called

629
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: a B actor or a C actor, D the D list.

630
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: I get it, you're not wrong, but it's also so

631
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: like inveracular, I.

632
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Don't know, I almost turn it off at that point.

633
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I really did, Danielle, I agree with you. I almost

634
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: I almost flipped it off, and I wasn't gonna watch

635
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: the rest of it because it was like, you know,

636
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: as an audience, this thing has to hold my attention, right,

637
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and the show I'm so used to the show appealing

638
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: to the better rangees of my nature and this episode

639
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: didn't appeal to any of them. In fact, it was grating.

640
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: And the only you know, buoy that I had while

641
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: I was drowning was you know, a couple of characters

642
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: that it was like, somebody saved me from this.

643
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 3: No, I didn't think it was as bad as you guys.

644
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: That being said, it was way too much talk of

645
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: mini fridges. I was like, I don't use the mini fridge, right,

646
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: I don't care if they have many fridges. There's that

647
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: one Smeg brand that's kind of cool if if that's

648
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: in your hotel room because it's so fancy, and that

649
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: for the per I.

650
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Haven't seen Michelle this upset for this long ever, and

651
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: it just I just didn't think it was a good look.

652
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: It was you're not wrong, okay now, and Laura LII

653
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: and you're on the phone with Liz who's joined a cult.

654
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: Now does Liz never show up in this She does not,

655
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: does not come back.

656
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: So not in this episode. I don't know about others,

657
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: and I don't want to know.

658
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but so we don't have Liz, but

659
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: we're talking to Liz and TJ. They've joined a cult,

660
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: paul Anka vegetable cult. This is where they go to.

661
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: They have dinner, which was kind of cute. I think

662
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: they sort of like maybe had takeout. They definitely had

663
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: a takeout salad. I think, you guys are watching a movie,

664
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: then it's bedtime, and then she has the dream about

665
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: paul Anka when we see the real paul Anka. So

666
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 3: we're kind of having a call back to that from

667
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: season six, I think season six.

668
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I had no idea what

669
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: was going going on, to be honest with you, it

670
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: was just the whole thing was bizarre.

671
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing that I took from this

672
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: scene at least was that Laurlai thinks Michelle's leaving and

673
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: that was sad.

674
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: And we still yeah, she still doesn't know about Logan

675
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: because she calls Rory in London, and I think, yeah,

676
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: she's just so stupid.

677
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 6: Well, also Rory would have told Laurai like and also

678
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: Lorlai would know she's always she was always one step

679
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 6: ahead of Rory, like she would know, right, she's not

680
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 6: like d D all right.

681
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: So then we're back in therapy and they're kind of

682
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: having a bad moment and then they're laughing hysterically about

683
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: so we understand, and then they're back mad at each other.

684
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: There's some reference to a letter and Laura's like, I

685
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: didn't write you a letter, though I do think we

686
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: could pay off on that later I'm remembering, but maybe not. Anyway,

687
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: that was kind of dumb. Now we go to London

688
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: and this is where Naomi is just like just freaking

689
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: out about something boyfriend and.

690
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: I love it. I love everything about her.

691
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: I couldn't dislike it more So, Rory and Logan are

692
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: kind of there while she's on the phone with Naomi

693
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: Slash Alex Kingston, and this is where Rory's like, well,

694
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: I could stay. And then we find out Odette's coming

695
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: and it's kind of actually just.

696
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 5: Sad, just sad.

697
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh there's a bummer of a scene. Yeah, and it

698
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: was it was a low energy, depressing scene between the

699
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: two of them and.

700
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm just dealing, right, I'm dealing with this annoying Naomi.

701
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: And then it's just like, oh great, So now I'm

702
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: depressed because Rory's cheating with Logan, and Logan's cheating with Rory,

703
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: and this odette woman's coming and I can't even have

704
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: this couple be together that I want to have together.

705
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: So now we're at the movie.

706
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Now.

707
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: I enjoyed this, this scene. I enjoyed the whole thing.

708
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: I enjoyed everyone sneaking their food in. I enjoyed. But

709
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: Beet and Maury with their grill making, Like what do

710
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: they street meat?

711
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: You know?

712
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: How like when you come out of a concert and

713
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: they're always selling those hot dogs that smell like heaven

714
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: on Earth.

715
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the tailgate inside.

716
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: No, But like, you know, have you ever come out

717
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: of a concert and there's all those hot dog vendors? Yes,

718
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: and it's like bacon wrapped hot dog. First of all,

719
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 3: I never will do it because I'm afraid they don't

720
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: refrigerate them properly.

721
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: What concerts? What kind of concerts?

722
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: Where are you all concerts?

723
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Whenever I walk out of concerts, all they'd smell was marijuana.

724
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: Nope, there's you'll smell. It's called street meat. And there's

725
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: hot dog vendors everywhere everywhere. I'm going to that the

726
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: football games, Sofa Stadium, Staples Center, everywhere, everywhere in La

727
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: everywhere you go. It's like a huge business. They sell

728
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: because people are so starving when they come out of

729
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: those games, and they pay like they're not cheap. I

730
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: think it's like eight.

731
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah the hot dog you're missing out. Those are deh.

732
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: So one time, I will say, I came out of

733
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: a concert with Jenna Escoto and I said to Jenna, Ooh,

734
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: how much would I have to pay you to eat that?

735
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: And she goes, pay me. I would love to eat that.

736
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: Honestly.

737
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: They smell like heaven because they're thrilling, and they're like

738
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: bacon wrapped. But I just have such fears that the

739
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: bacon has not been properly refrigerated. Yeah, Scott, you're right guy,

740
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: it's dia rhea. Anyway, So I thought the movie was hilarious.

741
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: I thought the scene was hilarious. I thought the phone

742
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: ringing was hilarious. That Emily's calling and wants to see

743
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 3: Luke and the whole thing. I was like, I'm amused.

744
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Thought, Yeah, I thought the movie. Scene was good up

745
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: until the phone started ringing, and I just wanted to

746
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: see the film by Kirk. I didn't want to be

747
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: distracted by it. You know, I thought the film by

748
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Kirk was film by kerk that's another film by Kirk.

749
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Second film by Kirk. I thought it was excellent. I

750
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: thought it was a wonderful piece of student filmmaking.

751
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: Pig.

752
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: I love thee the Death of the Pig. It was just,

753
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was lighthearted and funny and fun and

754
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: that's that's how I want to see Kirk, you know,

755
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: dressed up as a raiser head. Yeah.

756
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: I love Lululu's love for Kirk. She just has undying

757
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: love for Kirk. She hasn't left him in eight year.

758
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: Maybe it's ten, I gotta do the math. Maybe it's twelve.

759
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. When she came on the scene, she's

760
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: totally adorable and she loves Kirk.

761
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, there was a funny bit before they sat down.

762
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: She goes, Kirk and I have done unimaginable things on

763
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: this couch and Luke says that too late. Where you

764
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: know he sat down.

765
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: So good too. So okay, that scene I'm going to

766
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: give a thumbs up. Okay, Now we go over to

767
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: the Gilmour's, to Emily's and Emily's first like, Lourlai, why

768
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: are you here? And then we find out that she's

769
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: got something to tell Luke. She brings him into the

770
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: study that in the library. Whatever?

771
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: But what what? What is? What treachery is? What treachery

772
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: is afoot here? Why can't Luke put on his big

773
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: boy pants and go over? I mean, why are they

774
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: portraying this guy such a wuss that he's so afraid

775
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: of Emily? Okay, this is a grown ass man who's

776
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: the woman he's in love with it and has been

777
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: living with and fights him over to have dinner. Why

778
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: can't he just go without him? Like?

779
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: Mother in laws?

780
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: Yourself nervous teenage here and his mommy's got to go

781
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: with them.

782
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: Do you go to your mother in laws a lot

783
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: without your wife?

784
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: If she invited me to dinner, I would go.

785
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Danielle, have you ever been to your mother in

786
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: laws without John?

787
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: I hang out with John's mom a lot without Fine.

788
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, you guys are right then I'm gonna give.

789
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: You It's it's the destruction of a character. Where have

790
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: you ever seen. He just acts like an idiot inside

791
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: that house. You know.

792
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I think the point is to make him

793
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: look like a fish out of water. But like it's

794
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 2: it's it's hurting his character, like you said, because Luke

795
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: in Stars Hollow is the man right, like he is

796
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: the guy is a dark story.

797
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: But and why isn't Laurel I respecting his you know,

798
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: his boundaries at all. It's like, I'm gonna go have

799
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: dinner with your mother. So that's a scene like, hey, no,

800
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: she invited me, I'm going. You're not going with me.

801
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a baby. I don't need my mommy there.

802
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, what is happening with this this character.

803
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm unbothered by it, but I can you guys can

804
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: be bothered by it. I'm unbothered by it. It sort

805
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: of tracks. It's always with the way it is with Emily,

806
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: like I'm not going alone. I'm not going I'll go

807
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: with you. Oh fine, you know, and then she ignores

808
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: Laura and then she calls him in the study. I

809
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: don't know Richard's office. Whatever it is, it is.

810
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: It is emasculating, is what it is.

811
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 3: I don't mind it, but I get you're don't mind Okay,

812
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 3: I didn't mind the scene.

813
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't.

814
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't mind the bit of it. I think it's

815
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: a little bit amusing. She brings them in there. You know,

816
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: she's sort of.

817
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, well, since he's now so stupid that he

818
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: doesn't know what in vitro is, right, Okay.

819
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that one.

820
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: That was ridiculous.

821
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: This one is not as ridiculous For me.

822
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty ridiculous.

823
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Fair.

824
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: Fair, I'm throwing. I'm throwing, like what a refs get.

825
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: They get a bunch of flags. I'm throwing like all

826
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: of my.

827
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: Flags, rejecting it from the game. You've given the ejection.

828
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I am yes, I might ban them from the league.

829
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: I think it's fair. It's all a little off. We

830
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: find out that Richard specifically left me for Luke. Now

831
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: it's a little rough because it's specifically to grow the

832
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: diner and franchise it, which was mentioned in the series.

833
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: There is a point in the series where Richard talks

834
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: about that it's kind of when you go golfing.

835
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that is all fine, but just to reject it

836
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: out of hand as these crazy rich people wanting to

837
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: take over my life and force me to do something

838
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to do. I don't think it was

839
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: handled well. I think it's a bigger story point that

840
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: needed more carefully crafted scenes, like real consideration, because to

841
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: take I think he needed to take it seriously. I

842
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: think he needed to contemplate it. I think he needed

843
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: to talk about it with Lorelei, but in a way

844
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: where he owns it, and he owns the decision, and

845
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: he comes to the decision with the love of his

846
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: life and then goes back to Emily and says, I

847
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: thank you. I and act like a man, you know,

848
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: act like somebody, and go back and rejects the idea.

849
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Reject the idea, but you know, be polite about it.

850
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy put him in his will that

851
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: that deserves respect.

852
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: I totally agree with you. I think it gets weird.

853
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: So I don't mind the way this gave it a

854
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: short ship. I don't mind the way the scene is

855
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: handled where you go back out because.

856
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Now Luke's a minor character, he doesn't matter any more.

857
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: I disagree. I disagree with that.

858
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm in the respect to develop.

859
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: Disagree with that. Here the part that I think.

860
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: Is ridiculous side dish at this point, and he's not respected.

861
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: So I don't agree with that part. But the part

862
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: I do agree with what you're saying is when he

863
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: goes to.

864
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: It's a fact. It's just a fact. It's not you know.

865
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: It's like, how can you watch this thing and not

866
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: see that this guy is a side dish At this point,

867
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: they're pushing him so far to the side now, and

868
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: I know where it's going that he's not going to

869
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: exist soon. I know where this is going. I know

870
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: where this is going.

871
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 5: So do I.

872
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: But at this point I don't agree with that. I

873
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: think this scene is okay. The reason I say that,

874
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: that's fine. We can disagree, but let me just say

875
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: the point in case someone listening is like agrees or

876
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: disagrees when he comes back and tells Florlai, like, your

877
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 3: father left me money to grow the diner and she says, no,

878
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: that's not happening. The reason I like about, what do

879
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: you mean? Why is it up to her because you

880
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: don't want it? You've been right? Why why I will

881
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: long you don't want it?

882
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: I will everyone?

883
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: What about what about his daughter? He's got a daughter

884
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: he wants to provide for too, so it's actually a

885
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: gift that of what half a million dollars to start

886
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: another diner and to franchise this out. This could be

887
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: good for him and La.

888
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: The character has never wanted her, could be.

889
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Good for April. I mean, there's no practical reason to

890
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: reject it other.

891
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: Than this guy is rejected it years ago.

892
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: Dish At this point, I think the problem is everybody,

893
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: so they can just.

894
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Do reject it. Guys, everybody, hold on one second, we

895
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: do need to acknowledge oh wor spitting fire. But Luke

896
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: rejected this idea years ago when Richard brought it up.

897
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: He doesn't want I'm being true to the character. He

898
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: doesn't want to franchise the diner. He doesn't want to

899
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: get in.

900
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: He didn't want to franchise change the thing. The problem here,

901
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is no one is letting Luke speak.

902
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: No one is letting Luke decide. Emily Richard are saying

903
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: here's the money you need to franchise and saying he

904
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: doesn't want this. So no one is letting Luke decide

905
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: what he wants to do.

906
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: But do you guys think Luke does want it? Because

907
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: I think Luke doesn't want it.

908
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: I think if he didn't, he would have said, Emily,

909
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: see you next year, you know, like he would would

910
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: have he would have told I felt like I feel

911
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: like he would have.

912
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: Right, he's not enough of a man now because he's

913
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: been so marginalized and so castrated that he doesn't even

914
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: have the stones even if he wanted it to stand

915
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: up the Laura li and say, I think once it

916
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: would be I think this, let me let me finish.

917
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: I think this would be a good idea. Let's discuss it.

918
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: And maybe that's the thing that drives a wedge between them,

919
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: and she goes off, you know, hunting for you know,

920
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: her her soul somewhere in Califoina. But I mean it's

921
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: like you, It's like, okay, so if you're gonna open

922
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: up this can of worms with this guy, at least

923
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: give him the respect. And I don't need to repeat myself,

924
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: but I do. I poorly handled and and all.

925
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: I can say is it is bizarre when you go

926
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: with the realtor. So my thing is until this point,

927
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: you're you're being polite. This is her husband who's passed away,

928
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: this is what he wanted. So so Luke's sort of

929
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: like okay, thank you, let me, you know, talk to

930
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: you later, tells Laura. The part it's unhinged and ridiculous

931
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: is that Emily storms into the diner in the middle

932
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 3: of the work day and forces Luke in the car

933
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: like a like you know, he's being held with the

934
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: you know, with.

935
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: The woozy that he now is, and now he is

936
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: going along with it.

937
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: There are places that part, that's what a woo does.

938
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: He just goes along that. He's not a character anymore,

939
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: he's not Luke anymore.

940
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: That's where I'm agreeing with you. I don't agree with

941
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: it yet, but coming up it's like that was ridiculous.

942
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: He would have been like Emily, I'm not going to

943
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: go look at these places. And you know, yes, it's

944
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: sort of amusing. He's going into these restaurants and being

945
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: like sorry, sorry, sorry, and they're in the car and

946
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: the whole thing. But like that was crazy. He's gonna

947
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: be like Emily, I'm not going not getting in the

948
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: car and driving around what anyway whatever. Up until this point,

949
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, I wasn't that irritated by it.

950
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: There's all that rich soil, all that fertile soil to

951
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: sow the seeds of conflict and it wasn't taken advantage

952
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: of at least now Luke not his.

953
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: Care We'll say, I do feel like Luke is not

954
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: dismissing it fully, but you know, like because even when

955
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: he was when they went to that diner, he was like,

956
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: this is not the best area of town, and Emily

957
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: was like, this is up and coming, YadA yah, you

958
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: know whatever. And I feel like Luke is entertaining it

959
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 2: a little bit, but he doesn't have control over it, right.

960
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: But you know what, Also the problem is is like

961
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Richard's gone, Emily is distraught. It doesn't matter what happened

962
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: since Laurel I was sixteen, everybody. It shows that there

963
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: has been no or very little character growth from the

964
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: main character in this show from the time she was

965
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: sixteen to present day. Because now she's in therapy, she's

966
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: being rude to her own mother. She's being dismissive and

967
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: mean to her own mother. And Emily had to stand

968
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: there and say, I am in a tremendous amount of

969
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: pain and she's breaking down in front of her own daughter.

970
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: Why can't you acknowledge my pain and help me with

971
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: my pain? You know what I mean?

972
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: I think the same to be said vice versa. I

973
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: don't think either of them have gone. I think because

974
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: Lorala breaks down as my dad is gone, and Emily

975
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: is not doing the same for her, they're both not

976
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: doing the same for each other.

977
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: I just think the path here forward would have been

978
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: better served if it showed growth in all of these

979
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: characters and all of these relationships, maturing getting involved in

980
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: a business venture and seeing what the complications of that

981
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: could read, but not castrating Luke and not presenting Larelai

982
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: as an emotionally stunted person as they are portraying her

983
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: as well, So we're not even on that subject, like

984
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: what is going on Floraala? And there is just this

985
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: there's this stagnation with these characters. They're they're they're being deconstructed,

986
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: They're they're sort of you know, they're sort of losing

987
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: their magic and their power, and it's hard to watch.

988
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that you know, put

989
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: you to sleep and put me to sleep, as we

990
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: almost and it's and it's kind of unnerving. These characters

991
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: mean a lot to this fan base and they you know,

992
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: these characters mean a lot to me too, and I

993
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: don't like seeing them treated this way, and I don't

994
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: like seeing them acting this way or saying these things

995
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: or behaving in these ways, because it doesn't ring true

996
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: to me at all. So deal with the diner. Do

997
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: the diner, have the complications, have the growth, embrace your mother,

998
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: get over it. Don't need to be in therapy. But

999
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: here we are, right, it's like, help your mom.

1000
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: Okay, what's so?

1001
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: What?

1002
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: What?

1003
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: What's the message of this show? A community comes together,

1004
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: it's family. At what point do we we can lay

1005
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: down our swords with these two? Right? These two can

1006
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: lay down their swords and new conflict can emerge out

1007
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: of the coming together of these of mother and daughter. Right.

1008
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand why they're doing this to

1009
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: these characters. I don't get it.

1010
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 3: I feel like it tracks for the characters the whole.

1011
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: We've had seven years of Emily and Lorla not seeing

1012
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: eye to eye and not getting along, and so they

1013
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: are continuing that. So I actually find Yes, I don't

1014
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: love it all the time, but to me, it is

1015
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: true to the characters. Emily's not going to suddenly out

1016
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: of left field be like I'm going to be the

1017
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 3: better person and care about my daughter and Laura.

1018
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: No, it's on Laura to take care of her mom.

1019
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: She's getting older, she's alone, she's in this massive house, right.

1020
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I just a certain how much.

1021
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: I can't even answer that question because it's like in theory, sure,

1022
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: but Laura has never been taken care of by her mom.

1023
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: I don't correct. It's this is a woman who's really

1024
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: treated Lorlai somewhat badly. That's what I always say about Emily.

1025
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: She's hot cold, She's not one or the other, She's both.

1026
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 3: So Lorlai is doing her part. Lorlai was right there

1027
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: by her side for the when everything happened with Richard.

1028
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: She's in therapy with her. She's doing her part. But

1029
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: Emily is prickly, and Emily doesn't have any respect for

1030
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: Lorli her decisions or Luke, which really doesn't have.

1031
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: Just suddenly there have been a few moments of clarity

1032
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: for Loralai appreciating her mother, haven't there There's.

1033
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: Been a few moments where where Emily really accepts Loralai

1034
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: for who she is, but very few.

1035
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess that's really like the focus sort

1036
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: of gets out of focus very easily with these two.

1037
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: It's hard for them to come together. But I just

1038
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: think at this point, I don't know what I'm watching

1039
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know what I'm watching, and I

1040
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: don't know.

1041
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 3: Why you're not wrong with that what you'll say, there's

1042
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: glimmers of Gilmore girl in it, Gilmore girls in it,

1043
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: but there's a lot that is like this is kind

1044
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: of messier hinged, right, So it's like some of it

1045
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: does track though, Lorle and Emily not getting along.

1046
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 1: You know what, it's the same old song and dance.

1047
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: I think we're ready for something different than that. That's fair,

1048
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: that mighty, and how many times are you going to

1049
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: go to that well? It's the same? I mean, really,

1050
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: we're still there after all of these years. It's like

1051
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: another level.

1052
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of going to the well, we're at Chiltern now

1053
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: and we're going to the well of Paris being unhinged.

1054
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 5: Right.

1055
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: It's like we know it. They love to write it,

1056
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: so that's what we're dealing with. So they come in

1057
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: that we've got the one hundred thousand. We find out

1058
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: Paris gave one hundred thousand dollars, YadA, YadA. I can't

1059
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: remember she gives her talk first, or if she gives

1060
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: it after but they're in the bathroom.

1061
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: Did you let any of this? Uh, Paris rant.

1062
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: No, I did not love it.

1063
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: I didn't either, and it was one Nancy.

1064
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: Showing up was amusing. I laughed when Francie was dropping bombs.

1065
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: I thought it was wonderfully acted. But you know, I

1066
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't think it was terribly funny.

1067
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 3: Hacky does make a good point, she said. She laughed

1068
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: when Paris held the door close with her foot, which

1069
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: I giggled a little bit too. That was funny, and

1070
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good reveal, you know, if

1071
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 3: Francis showing up and sort of being a little bit

1072
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: mean to Paris still and you see a bit of

1073
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: Rory and Pars's friendship, like I'm not going to tell

1074
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: anybody about the empty briefcase and yeah, you know, and look,

1075
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: Paris is going through a divorce, so it tracks that

1076
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: she's going to be a bit unhinged, you know, Like

1077
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want Paris to just be perfect, because that's

1078
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: not Paris. Yeah, so I look, I like seeing Headmaster Charlton.

1079
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: Am I saying his name right, Charles Charlton.

1080
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: I like being back at Chilton, to be honest.

1081
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: I love getting that that shot of the building with

1082
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: them outside in the driveway. That was awesome. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of nostalgic things that work about.

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Speaker 2: This, and it's heads Charleston. I think he said that, Charleston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the core storyline lacks.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Scott Patterson, we have so much more to talk

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Speaker 1: about with Spring, so stay tuned. Hey, everybody forget Follow

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