1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Gewiss. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: and everybody. 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 3: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 3: Lauren came in. 6 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, it's Laura Rosa and this is the latest 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: with Lauren L. 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: Rosa. 9 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: Now I'm your host, Laura L. Rosa, and we are 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: here for another episode Low Riders. I appreciate you guys 11 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: for joining me. Welcome on back, Welcome on back. If 12 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: you cannot tell already, I am energized today. Y'all know 13 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: we do the behind the scenes of the grind, behind 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: the scenes of the you know, the grind. Little checking 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: that we do here, not little, because everything is big 16 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: this season. 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: I am feeling rejuvenated. 18 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: I am excited to be here with you guys for 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: another episode. It isn't excited for the place that I'm 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: in in my life, good, bad, ugly and indifferent. And 21 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: the reason why I say this is because I think 22 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: this week, in these last couple weeks for me have 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: been I've been learning in real time how to balance 24 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: like schedule, and I think when people talk about that 25 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: and the skill to be able to plan and schedule, 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: they don't give it up for the girls who know 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: how to do it enough, okay, because I religiously am 28 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: not the planner of the friend group in the family, 29 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: even though you know, oldest daughters in the family somehow 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: become the family manager. 31 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: The long term planning and things of that nature are 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: not my specialty. 33 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm really well at executing, almost kind of in CRISI 34 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: or crisis like, last minute on the spot, making decisions 35 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: boom boom boom, let's get it, finding a solution. But 36 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: what I'm learning so much more about when juggling so 37 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: many different things now is the beauty and the necessity 38 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: of long term planning and scheduling and you know, just 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: organization and having a time and place for preparation and 40 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: you know your thoughts and you know, a time for 41 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: work where you're all the way locked in, a time 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: for play, a time to say no to play, a 43 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: time to say no to work, those type of things. 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: So grateful to be experiencing that at this point in 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: my journey, because I feel like, you know, it's I'm 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: you know, I'm really really spiritual. And I've been telling 47 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: myself as I've been praying about some of the different 48 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: you know, walls and different things I've been coming up 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: against I've been asking God to guide me through them, 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: but I've also been saying to God, Okay, God, I 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: hear you. Okay, God, I hear you. Okay, God, I 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: hear you. Because this is not my first time having 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: like an inner conversation with myself about proper planning, preparation, 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: taking the time, not burning yourself out, prioritizing what's important 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: versus what's not. But I think in real time, I'm 56 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: having to make those decisions or else. And yesterday I 57 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: literally said that prayer to God, like God, I hear you. 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying to me, and I'm gonna 59 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: do it. And I did a lot of things yesterday. 60 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: I prepped for you know, my segment the day before 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: for the Breakfast Club, which I normally had done, but 62 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: I've been so exhausted just doing this trial thing. Now 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: we have the podcast and no excuses, more so just 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: growth thing, growing into places and spaces where I can't 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: operate like the woman I was before I got to 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: those places has been my testimony lately. So you know, today, 67 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: as I arrived here on the podcast, that's where I'm 68 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: at and that's how I'm feeling and I know a 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: lot of you guys can probably you know, everybody goes 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: through different changes in their life, and different elements and 71 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: different elevation points of your life require different version of you. 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 3: So that is where I'm at today currently. 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: But let's get on into the latest, because if we're 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: talking about elevation and you know, growth, we got to 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: talk about one of the most historically famous families in 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: our nation's history, the Obama family, because Michelle Obama has 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: recently come out and made her comments for the first 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: time about her daughter, Malia Malia Obama dropping her last name. 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: So there have been reports that came out that Malia 80 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: Obama used her middle name in so Mala as her 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: last name for credits of a short film that she 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: wrote and directed. 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: The short film was called The Heart. 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: This short film aired at the Sundance Festival in twenty 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: twenty four, and when the news broke, people were like, 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: oh wait, hold on, But I instantly understood what that was. 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: I knew. I'm like, Okay, these are girls who've been under. 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: This microscope because you know, their dad was the first 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: black president of the United States and their mother as 90 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: the first lady of the United States. 91 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: Is some amazing things for a nation. 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: But she was highly criticized as a black woman in 93 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: the White House, so of course their lives have been 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: not without scrutiny as well. And these are young girls 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: growing into women in front of our eyes, finding their 96 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: own way, and I'm sure wanting to make their own way. 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: So I had already kind of put two and two 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: together and knew that that's probably what it was. 99 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: But Michelle Obama came and cleared it up for us. 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: And here is what she said on an episode of 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: a podcast called Civiling Rivalry. 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Let's say, listen, our daughters are twenty five and twenty three. 103 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: They are young adult women, but they definitely went through 104 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: a period in their teen years where it was the 105 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: push away, you know, we want to you know. I 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: mean they're still doing that as and you guys know, 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: this is the children of parents who are known. You know, 108 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to distinguish yourself. I mean, it is very 109 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: important for my kids to feel like they've earned what 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: they are getting in the world. And they don't want 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: people to assume that they don't work hard, that they're 112 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: just naturally just handed things. They're very sensitive to that 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: they want to be their own people. You know Malia 114 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: who started in film, I mean her first project, she 115 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: took off her last name, and we were like, they're 116 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: still going to know it's you, Malina, you know, but 117 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: we respected the fact that, you know, she's trying to 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: make her way. But now as they're older, I think 119 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: they are embracing our parenting principles. 120 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: They you know, they they have a clearer. 121 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Understanding of why we did a lot of what we did. 122 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: Now. 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: I love that because number one, I think that there's 124 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: always this conversation amongst black families and about black families 125 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: on nepotism. And I love the black nepotism conversation because 126 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: I feel like whenever we get to have that black 127 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: nepotism conversation, we get to argue about why if we 128 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: worked hard and we earn the money, our kids get 129 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: to get the silver spoon too. But I also think 130 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: that for me playing Devil's Advocate, I think that it 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: would have been a beautiful thing to see Malia Obama 132 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: put Malia Obama in the credits. So I think it 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: would have been a beautiful thing, you know, for her 134 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: to say, Hey, my dad is Barack Obama, my mom 135 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: is Michelle Obama. 136 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: I want to get in the film Dad, Mom, who 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: can you call? 138 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: Because I think that that is what the generational wealth 139 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: of you know, being people, not even you know, black 140 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: people when I'm speaking to that because I'm a black woman, 141 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: but people in general, red, white, or blue. The whole 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: point in you know, breaking down these barriers and breaking 143 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: glass ceilings and walking through these doors and sitting at 144 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: these tables or building your own table is so that 145 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: a person behind you doesn't have to fight or break 146 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: through or build or carry the weight of doing so 147 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: many of these different things in the way that you 148 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: have to. And I you know, for me, when it 149 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: comes to black children, and especially in like creative spaces 150 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: and you know, artsy spaces, it's always about like, I 151 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: want to claim my own right because you know, your 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: art is your art, and that's what you're trying to protect. 153 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: But I love when I see what Lebron and you know, 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Brownie Junior are doing. It's like I'm here, I'm talented, 155 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: I deserve to be here, and I could have worked 156 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: to get here, and I did work to be here. 157 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: But at the same time, my dad is Lebron James. 158 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: But I love that Michelle Obama and Barack Obama give 159 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: their daughters, from what it seems like on the outside 160 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: looking in that space, to be their own people, to 161 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: you know, wedge their own you know, sword in society. 162 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: But they're honest with them. They're like, look, no matter 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: what you call yourself, Malia, they're gonna know it's you, baby, 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: like we are who we are at this point. But 165 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: they still allow her to go through life and understand 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: that and experience that on their own. Something about that 167 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Obama family that just makes me, you know, like I 168 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: want to strive to have that, that regalness and that love, 169 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: and its still that in my children with my husband. 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: I look at the Obamas as that. And Michelle Obama 171 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: just announced her book that will go and sell November fourth, 172 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 173 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: It is called The Look. 174 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: She says, during our family's time in the White House, 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 2: the way I looked was constantly being discussed and dissected, 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: what I wore, how my hair was styled. For a 177 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: while now, I've been wanting to reclaim more of that story, 178 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: to share it in my own way. I'm thankful to 179 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: be at a stage in life where I feel comfortable 180 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: expressing myself freely wearing what I love and doing what 181 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: I love feels true to me, and I'm excited to 182 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: share some of what I've learned along the way. My 183 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: new book, The Look, comes out on November fourth. It's 184 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: a reflection on my lifelong journey with fashion, hair and beauty. 185 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: I am really excited about that as a woman, a 186 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: Black woman in a very public space that you know, 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: I've been criticized for my outfits, whether they're too seductive 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: or not in my personal time or you know, my 189 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: hair on camera, my makeup on camera is you know, 190 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: it's the small things, and I think all women get it, 191 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: but I do think, you know, speaking from the perspective 192 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: of a black woman, just like a lot of other things, 193 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: there is the feeling of I can't not get that right. 194 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: Hair has to be late, beauty has to be on point. 195 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: Outfits have to be very aware and cognizant of the 196 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: room that I'm walking into because I might not get 197 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: another chance to show up in this way. So excited 198 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: to hear you know what she's teaching this book because 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Michelle Obama got man what I deal with a little 200 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: bit on social media, and nothing compare with to our 201 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: first Lady Michelle Obama and what she experienced while being 202 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: in the White House. 203 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: So definitely will be on the lookout for that. 204 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: But I want to also then pivot in the latest 205 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: because you guys know that we've been keeping you up 206 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: to date on the trial here in New York where 207 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: Sean COLMBS Diddy is on trial for a plethora of things. 208 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: There's counts of trafficking, you know, all of these things, 209 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: and I've been going to the courthouse daily, and now 210 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: I've decided that I will go, of course, and keep 211 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: up with what is going on in the court whether 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm there or not through transcripts and court reporters. But 213 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: I do want to make sure that the days when 214 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: you guys see me there because I do have dual 215 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: triple rolls, like I'm here on the podcast with y'all, 216 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: the lowwriters, we you know, at the. 217 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: Breakfast club, we in court. It's a lot to figure out. 218 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: Prioritizing, I told y'all at the beginning of this has 219 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: been a thing that I've had to learn because of 220 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: the voice in the you know, the different areas that 221 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: all this coverage has been able to, you know, place 222 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: me and I'm so grateful for that, but I want 223 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: to make sure it's effective. So not every day am 224 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: I at the actual court. But y'all gonna still hear me. 225 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Y'all gonna hear me though. So yesterday in court, there 226 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: was a woman who testified. Her name is Brianna Banna Bangalan. 227 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: Now this woman, Cassie had spoke a lot about her 228 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: and her testimony and talked about, you know, they were 229 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: a really close friend. She was actually a designer as well, 230 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: a fashion designer, friends with Cassie, and she experienced a 231 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: very allegedly a very violent and physical interaction with Ditty, 232 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, while Cassie was present that Cassie spoke to 233 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: and now she is on the stand telling her story 234 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: herself this week. So she alleged that Diddy held her 235 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: on a seventeen story balcony back in September of twenty sixteen, 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: and she testified that Diddy threw her on the balcony furniture. 237 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: She ales that she was left with a bruise on 238 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: the back of her leg as well as neck and 239 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: back pain, and that Diddy said to her allegedly in 240 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: the midst of all of this, in the midst of 241 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: all this rage that he's a devil and he could 242 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: kill her. And that was on a whole different occasion. 243 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: So you have the back balcony incident, then you have 244 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: the whole the devil I could kill you, that whole incident, 245 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: and what what she is speaking to is an incident 246 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: where Diddy basically came into the into Cassie's home. 247 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 3: And the way that uh, you know. 248 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 2: The prosecutors or the government set it up when talking 249 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: about this woman and that experience was that, uh Diddy 250 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: was at a point allegedly where he was trying to 251 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: keep Cassie from drug abuse and different friend groups and 252 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: you know, she was just she was she was spiraling. 253 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: Uh. 254 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: The government of alleged that they were both using drugs 255 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: and they were both doing these different things, but that 256 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: actually Cassie had begun to utilize drugs and do different 257 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: things a bit too much and he was trying to 258 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: almost like safeguard her. Cassie and Miss Brianna tell a 259 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: whole different story. 260 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: They talk about this, and this was day sixteen of 261 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: the trial. 262 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: They talk about this as you know, him coming in, 263 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: you know, on alleged drunken rage and just being upset 264 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: about things that were not in Brianna's control whatsoever. And 265 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: she also talked about not even wanting to meet Diddy 266 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: at one point when Cassie was trying to introduce them, 267 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: because she didn't like some of the things that she 268 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: had been, you know, just seeing from kind of like 269 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: a third I view. But she did Bona is what 270 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: they call her, Cassie's friend that took the stand. She 271 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: did talk about them, you know, being on drugs that 272 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, within that incident, her and Cassie, she alleged, 273 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: and the Diddy's defense team came in and tried to 274 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: you know, poke holes in her story because she couldn't remembering. 275 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: She couldn't remember where she told the government that the 276 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: incident took place at. She couldn't remember what drugs she 277 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: told them that she was on. But two, I mean, 278 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: if you're the government, it's like, okay, of course she's 279 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: telling you that they were on drugs. She just can't 280 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: remember all of the drugs. And it wasn't maybe as 281 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: much as you guys are depicting, right. Cassie came prior 282 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: to this and had a very in depth conversation about 283 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: how extensive her drug use was. Having to go to 284 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: rehab doing drugs with her friend Bonna, who we are 285 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: now hearing from. Cassie herself, said there's a whole year 286 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: she talked about it. She said, you know, twenty seventeen 287 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: is basically a blur because of the drugs that she 288 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: was doing. So I don't know how effective this is 289 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: on a jury to you know, for the prosecutors to 290 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: present this information that way where it's like, Okay, he's 291 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: in this rage, he comes in, a person is physically harmed, 292 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: the scared. There's a whole knife fight that breaks out 293 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: allegedly at some point between Diddy and Cassie as well, 294 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: and this was like a normal thing that they, you know, 295 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: allegedly used to just do. Because this is you know, 296 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: allegedly Cassie fighting back against the rage and just how 297 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: did he would handle things? But there's all these things right, 298 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm saying all that briefly, and if you guys 299 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: can't tell by now, I feel like yesterday's testimony testimony, 300 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: it was there, but it's not that something I'm gonna 301 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on. 302 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: There are all these big salacious things right. 303 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: There's knives, there's the devil, there starts to you know, 304 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: allegedly does to kill someone. And then you also have 305 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: to enter the fact that you know, on all parties involved, 306 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: there was conversation prior to this woman taking a stand 307 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: of all of this drug use, which was confirmed by multa, 308 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: including Cassie herself, which was confirmed by multiple people. 309 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: So it's like, how do you, as Diddy's. 310 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: Team, effectively make a juror think that this witness is 311 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: not credible? 312 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: How when you've heard. 313 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Over and over and over prior to her getting to 314 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: understand a lot of people don't remember some things because 315 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: of the drugs that they were doing or the trauma 316 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: that they experienced. That's been my biggest question here, and 317 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: I think that's why the government hasn't rested their case 318 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: yet is because I think they want to. I mean, 319 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: they beyond the shadow of a doubt, right is their goal. 320 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: But they're trying to feel in color in every little 321 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: blank inch that they can because that is what they 322 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: have to do or this might not be a win 323 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: for them. Because if I'm a durer, I'm thinking about 324 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: it like, Okay, yet that happened, right, Like Diddy's team 325 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: is alleging this woman that he came into this rage 326 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: and came at you know, this bondom woman the way 327 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: he did because he was protecting Cassie from drug use 328 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: and these things. But at the same time, everything else 329 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: that we've seen physically from you know, Diddy that has 330 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: been alleged and you know, just the power, the influence, 331 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: the anger, all of these things has been so big, 332 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: and we've heard it from so many different angles. 333 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: How do you fight against that? I keep saying it. 334 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: I really keep saying it because I think that that's when, 335 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, we'll kind of get answers to a lot 336 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: of these questions or not and really know where the 337 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, the verdict in this case is going to go. 338 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: But I'm really interested to see what Diddy's defense is 339 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: going to be to all these things. And we've seen 340 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: some of it, right, like the angling of you know, 341 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: how they position their questioning when they cross examine the 342 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: witnesses and things of that nature.