WEBVTT - Draft Show: Hidden Gems 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.360 The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:12.600 Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:17.680 the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.319 for insider news and trapped analysis from deep within the 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:28.319 confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco. And 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:34.560 now your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:40.960 and David Hellman. Hello and welcome to another edition of 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.360 the Draft Show. It's Thursday, February seventeenth. Thanks for joining 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.760 us once again. I really I feel like we've been 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.600 doing this since December. That was last year. Though. Hey everyone, 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.840 I'm David Hellman. I'm joined as usual by my guys, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:59.400 Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman's Brian, who's the 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.440 last prosper back to you watched before today's show. The 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.400 last prospect that I watched, I watched Jeff sky sky Moore. Now, yeah, 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.759 that's that's boring. We talked about him the other day. Yeah, 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.280 and you know what, I think Jeff has got a 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.920 lot of things that are that are accurate about him. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.400 I think he's a slot only though, I really do. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.600 I will be really interesting I'll be really interested to 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.840 see if he's not as tall as Cooper Cup. He's 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.240 got he's got the thickness of Cooper Cup, I mean 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:28.920 in the lower body and stuff like that, and I 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.720 think that's admirable about the guy. I just don't think 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.680 he could play on the outside. I'll be interested if 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.480 he can. I'll be happy to admit it. I'm wrong, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.440 but got argument number two here. But he's Alan Petrie 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.080 and now we've got sky by More back at home. No. Absolutely, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.280 guy's a really good football player. You watch him play, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.959 I mean, he makes really nice plays. He catches the 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.280 football well, uh, he could separate underneath. You don't see 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.880 the ball go down the field a whole heck of 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.120 a lot to him run after catch is good, you know. Yeah. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.160 I mean, but I don't have him as high as 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.200 Jeff does. But I think that to me, when you 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.720 watch him play, you could see NFL traits. In the 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.160 NFL traits are when you throw the ball to somebody 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.320 underneath and they can run after catch and they can 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.440 separate in the slot and kind of use the whole 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.520 field to their advantage. And I think that's a I 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.119 think that's a Is that a trait that you put 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.760 in the second round not for me. Where do you 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.600 have him? I have him in the third round? Is 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.400 where I having myself crazy crazy discrepancy. Yeah, at the 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.280 risk of this becoming the sky Moore Show. Kyle, who 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:34.560 was the last guy watched? I watched Fair Mumford Muntford 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.680 out of Ohio State. He's a guard, plays a little 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.280 bit of tackle as well. UH, decent player. He wasn't 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.399 like number one on my list. I have him kind 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.799 of midway through maybe the third fourth or late third, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.040 early fourth, somewhere like that. Um, I'm pulling up his 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.040 scouting report that I wrote on him. Frame and length, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:58.280 they're fantastic someone who translates as a guard. Size helps 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.000 him have position flex during the NFL, played left tackle 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.160 in twenty twenty and then left guard this past season. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.400 He actually played better at tackle than he did it guard, though. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.560 If he is going to translate into the NFL, he'll 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.480 probably be a guard. You can see him laboring though, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.639 every time it's the snap and he's one on one 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.119 with a defensive lineman. Especially being in the big ten. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.600 He seemed to have that that clunky feet, that backwards 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.560 step and not necessarily the balance that I like to 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.240 see from a top one, two or three round guys. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.560 So I have him early fourth ish. I haven't put 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.160 an official grade on him, but that's kind of where 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:32.600 I think I'm gonna put him. I love it. We're 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.000 talking day three guys, because what do we do, Brian, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.520 We investigate, We educate and investigate. Yeah. What I do 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.560 want to do at the top of today's show, though, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.760 is a little more basic. I want to talk first round. Sorry, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.920 it's it's still a right and the many say you 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:51.360 are basic. I may add another word. I won't dispute that, honestly, 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.840 I really I really won't. But that's where I want 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.160 to go. And we've talked about this a lot already 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.320 on the show. This is a unique first round a 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.960 little bit, just because it just seems to be a 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.200 little bit more up in the air. There's not a 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:11.600 convinced consensus number one overall pick. There's a varying range 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:16.280 for basically every guy, with maybe a few exceptions Cavon, Thibadeau, 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.720 Aiden Hutchinson, Evan neil M. But the list of guys 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.000 that you really feel confident going like in the top 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.320 five is really short, right, So what I want to 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.680 do is to just give us an idea of what 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:35.080 the Cowboys could be facing at twenty four. I want 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.120 y'all to tell me who you feel incredibly confident will 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.760 be gone by then. If that makes sense, we'll be gone. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.400 We'll be gone. We're building a list of the untouchable, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.240 a list of the guys that the Dallas Cowboys don't 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.159 need to worry about. Evan Neil first one. Okay, I 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.920 think it's only gonna be like eight guys. Deep. I 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.480 think that's what makes this interesting to me is I 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.840 think that pool of guys at twenty or is a 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.560 lot bigger than maybe you would expect in a normal year. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.960 Do you agree with that? Yeah? I think so. I 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.880 think the thing about it is, there's to me with 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.800 always with the number one overall, pick though, who do 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.800 you feel the most comfortable with it has the least 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.039 amount of holes in him? And if you feel that 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.400 Neil is that guy, I'm just, you know, saying how 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.960 this thing might start out. Because you say there's not 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:26.200 a consistent somebody number one overall, somebody that everybody's talking about. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.320 I think that's why they're talking about Hutchison, because I 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.400 think that probably are people are shooting the least amount 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.520 of holes in him. And you know you want that 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.400 first overall pick to be a guy that like, listen, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.160 this is this is Ironclyde. This guy's gonna come out 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:40.839 and he's gonna play. He's gonna play well for a 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.880 long time. You know, you don't want to bust in 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.160 that first overall pick. And I think there's some questions 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.440 about Neil because we've done some podcast Jeff and I Dane. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.599 You know, we've all talked about this. Everybody's offensive tackle 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.440 order is different. I think with the defensive end position, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.880 you know, it's more of Hutchinson, Thibadeau, depending on you know, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.440 now we're starting to hear things about, well, maybe Thibodeau 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.279 doesn't love football as much. So you know that's the 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.279 thing about it. I think the lack of quarterbacks in 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.040 the first round is what makes this thing really wide 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.080 open when you get down to that area where we're 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.599 talking about where the Cowboys are going to pick. We've 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.480 talked about this in regard to Neil. I mean, he 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.679 still goes off the board, but as it is, size 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.560 is that the question I think there's I think the 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.480 biggest question I have is I think in this day 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.359 and age when you watch the NFL, and maybe you 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.719 guys will disagree with this, but when you watch these 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.680 the really good lines that come off the ball, they 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.520 get into their blocks, they stay on their feet, they're athletic, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.800 they have movement, they can run the ball to the outside, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.080 they can you know, they can get to second levels 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.400 and stuff. You're talking about a three hundred and fifty 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.560 seven pound man that at the point of attack is 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.800 really really good. But the longer that he has to block, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.800 there's a little bit more questions about that. Whereas Cross, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.039 any quan Wu and those guys like that seem to 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.000 stay on and be able to kind of maintain. So 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.640 if you're looking to poke holes and Neil, there's probably 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.680 only one or two things you could say about him, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.240 you know, and the others you could say, well, Cross 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.159 is not a big, big guy, but he's real athlete. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.040 I mean, they each had their kind of their ways, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.200 but I kind of feel like though the athletic offensive 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.840 tackle is what we're starting to see a lot more 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.480 here in the in the In the the the NFL game, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.280 you mentioned those three tackles, So Neil, equan Wu and 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.400 then cross gun. Where do you I think all three 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.920 of those we feel comfortable with that. We feel comfortable, Okay, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.520 I do. Yeah. Where would you put him in your rankings? Though? 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.160 Because I'm cross is how I have to deal is 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.520 third on that list, It's all over the place, cross 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.320 that's you. Yeah. I think that's where I'm at too, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.200 But I could I could put it quan Wu up 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.920 there as well. I like him more as a universal's 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.680 fit for a run blocker and a and a pass 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.800 blocker as well. But ask me in two weeks and 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.360 I might be I might flip that j Quanu is 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.360 the most fun to watch. Like if you're watching the 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.000 show right now and you don't watch the Prospects, just 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.400 google is going and then like vs like verse because 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:04.960 a lot of times people will cut up games and 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.920 you can go watch it because watching somebody who just 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.760 is way stronger than everyone else in college football is 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.800 so fun. I'm is a monster nasty, I'm gonna put 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.120 oh damn oh, I got I got worked up for 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.880 no damn reason. Mississippi State played NC State this year 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.560 and I was like, oh, crossing a quantity. Then I 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.600 realized they both play offense. YEP, that doesn't. Yeah. Now, 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.680 if you want to watch Cross against good competition, you 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.679 can watch against A and M. And they lined up 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.520 to Marvin Leale across from him a ton and it 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.120 looked like Charles Cross never broke a sweat. I'm gonna 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.679 watch that game right now, never broke a sweat. So 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.600 we have three consensus at offensive tackles. Yeah, yep, we 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:49.680 all agree. Aidan Hutchinson and Cavon Thibodeau are on that list, correct, Yes? 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.359 Is there another edge rusher at red Rusher be at Carloftis, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.960 be at David Ojabo? I think it would only be 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.760 from listening to other people, But like Dane is convinced 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.960 Ravon Walker Walker, Yeah, but Georgia, Yes, But I to 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.480 me he wouldn't be so, I don't think. But he 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.600 talks to a lot of people actually don't know. But 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.160 don't put him on the list that goes against the 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.800 thought experts guys here certainty, these guys are not there. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.319 I wouldn't say that for Walker Walker, Jermaine Johnson a 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.920 Jabo like, there's a decent chance they're all gone, but 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.080 they're not. To me, they're not locks to be gone. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.439 I think karloftus is gone. In my opinion, I kind 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.200 of want them to be there. Try not what we're 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.080 doing here. You're trying to will him into George George Karloftus, Brian, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.680 But I know you do if it gone jeps right, Yeah, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.600 I think no, No, no, I think that. I think 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.720 there's a possibility. I don't know if he's a Sherlock. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.040 I don't know if he's a Sherlock as a gone. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.040 I would like I would like to see because I 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.959 think what's gonna happen is people are going to figure 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:55.160 out about Walker, uh Carloftus and then a jigboo, a jigboo, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.520 you know about him. I think that's where I think 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.480 they're kind of all kind of mixed and m Johnson 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.959 and yeah, I mean there's people you talk to about 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.560 Jermaine Johnson that they're gonna say that, and these are 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.040 scout guys. They're saying, listen, he's gonna break your heart. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.960 People have got him the the they're saying to me 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.480 that the the media scouts have got him way too high. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.280 They're talking about him way too much. And I go really, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.560 and they go, no, you're gonna you're gonna find out 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.480 you if you really really really dive into this guy, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.840 and you know they have more access to things and 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.960 stuff like that, so so you know, but they're they're 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.079 they're all talking about the top ones that we're kind 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.280 of mentioning. They're they're all on board with the same guys. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.240 All right. So that's that's five names through two keys. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.280 I think the two corners are gone. I think Gardnered 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.280 singing Gardner. I agree with that. I think so. I 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:49.480 think Hamilton's gone to say, hey, hey, let trying trying 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.640 to move the show along. Uh, Brian, you're not segments 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.920 over he named them all. No, it's done. We're not 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.800 doing that, all right, Kyle Hamilton, Yes, gone, yeah, gone, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.760 all right? Anybody else in the dB in the secondary 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:08.360 up two corners? Gardner them like they're okay. I didn't 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.040 know if you were gonna rewind through. No, I just 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.600 found forward. I mean we got right in the halfway point, okay. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.720 I think Wilson the wide receiver's going okay. I think 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.199 I think he's a lock. He'll go in the teens, right, 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.640 I think so earlier every every everybody's mocking him to 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.040 the jets at ten. That's that's where that's again. If 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.640 you're interested in trying to move the Maori Cooper trade, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.360 you know, to go up, that's the place I would start. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.959 Jamison Williams doesn't last, right, the injury could injury. It's 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.920 a run of the mill injury. It's very possible. Well, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.040 how many receivers are going in the top twenty four? 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.240 Probably four? Many? Three could be less? Right, it's and 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.480 definitely most people are going to say that Garrett Wilson, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.400 Drake London and then is it Jamison Williams? Is it 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.000 trailing Burkes? Do you have another name to throw in 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:03.200 that mix? Like, I'm not going to say that Jamison 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.240 Williams is gone? So one receiver, I think one? Just 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.559 looking at a mock draft right now, just by the way, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.880 and Jamison Williams goes after the Cowboys. Okay, So I 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.160 guess I just spent so much time watching him dust everyone. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.440 I get it. He's a fantastic player, but it's hey, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.000 when it was third done and four, who were they 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:25.400 thrown to? Menchi John fan MITCHI, Yeah, that's fair. Linebacker. No, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.480 there isn't one. No, very possible. Two are gone, very possible, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.840 none are gone. We'd love to hear that defensive tackle. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.240 Probably none, none, very possible one or two is gone, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:43.439 but very possible. None are gone. Interior, offensive line interior 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.439 crocodile at Linderbaum, Kimon Green. I don't think either one 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.600 is a lock to be gone. I think it's possible 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.840 they're both gone. I think it's most likely they're gone, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.600 but I think not a lock. I think it's likely 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.480 at least one is gone. Yeah, I'm gonna say you're 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:56.920 gonna have a pick of one or the other if 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.080 you want. I think so too. But neither one is 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.440 a lock. I don't think tight end. We're thinking no, nope, nope. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.040 Nobody running back we know, no, no, not at all. 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.160 I never heard of him, and that is that a thing? Yeah, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.520 thank you, Jeff. Who's the best running back in the league, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.120 Deebo Samuel? Put your receivers in the back. That's seems 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.040 like a stretch. There was a guy that's number twenty 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.800 two in Tennessee. That's pretty good. Who what did you get? 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.680 Like four point two a carry? And they got the 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 one seed after he got hurt. We're not doing this. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:29.040 It's good at it. Quarterback quarterback Matt Correl. Someone will 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.920 be gone. I multiple, multiple guys. I don't. Probably multiple 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.520 will be gone, but I would only say it's a 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.640 lock that at least one or possibly two are gone. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.199 I'm not one, right, I'm not comforted putting a name 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.040 on it. I would put Corral myself if it was me. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:50.360 I agree with Brian, just shouldn't always. But hey, he's 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.680 thinking picking somebody. Somebody nailed Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.240 as you like to tell me. I've also after every 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.400 snap of that game a couple of weeks agoin Blake 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.960 Bortles is a bad one. Did like you did, like 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.080 Blake the guy. He should have gone to a super Bowl. Packton, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.080 our buddy, Joey Harrington, you have some bad ones along 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.760 the way too, you really do. Joey Harrington. Wasn't your fault. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.080 That's why you sky More in there, as he won't 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.880 be available to did not put sky More in there. Okay, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.040 so well, all right, we'll just say one quarter two 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.560 really good short players women Marcus Jones from Houston, by 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.320 the way, those are my two good short players. I'm 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.360 gonna say two quarterbacks. Maybe I'm crazy. I don't know. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.120 You're right. I think it's likely it's two, but I 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.160 wouldn't put names on. I don't know who it'll be, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.760 but I think two quarter Maybe it's pick It and Corral. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.600 Maybe it's Sam Howell. Maybe I don't even I don't know. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.400 There's no Yeah, two of them got the football team 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.240 will be where it starts, or I call him the 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.880 football team that commanders. I'm sorry, we're gonna get to 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.880 that next because we do still have time. But just 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.160 to just to recap, Okay, that's three tackles, two addreshers, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:55.280 two cornerbacks, one safety. That's five six, seven, eight, a receiver, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:00.720 nine and two quarterbacks. It's eleven players. Yeah, and I 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.280 think that's right. Like w you have no idea in 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.200 this draft class. If I guess we did say Stingley 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.440 won't be there, but like highly highly unlikely, and he's 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.040 the wrong example because he's gonna have volatile draft stock, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.280 But you have no idea, Like the next corner. Trent McDuffie, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.400 in my mind, is the next corner. Yeah at Washington. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.080 Does he go in the top fourteen or fifteen? Maybe? 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.880 Is he there twenty four maybe? George carl Offtis does 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.760 he go eleventh or does he go twenty ninth? I 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.000 don't know Kobe Deane, Kobe Deane, Does he go to? 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.200 Does he go? Twenty seventh? This is exciting because we 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.000 left a lot of players that we've established we really 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.360 like off the list, and also the volatility. You don't 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.560 what Jeff just said, a guy that we're not really 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.040 thinking about could easily go higher than that, right, Like, 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.040 all I can ever think about is the sorry to 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.080 the Raiders are friends over there, but the Cleveland Ferrells 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.280 and the Damon ar Netts of the world who just 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.040 show up out of nowhere and you're like, wow, that 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.640 one team really liked that guy. Today, Oh they pick 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.600 at twenty two, so you'll get a free free guy. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.520 There could be Andrew Booth, the Clemson corner. Maybe he goes. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.640 We talked about Johnson, Jermaine Johnson, though somebody could fall 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.760 in love with him over Kurloftus and Walker and those guys. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.960 Somebody could say, well he you know, I mean, okay, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.040 it's Thibodeaux Hutchinson and then maybe the third guy is Johnson. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.480 You know that mean that that that could very well 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.680 be a possibility. So real, there's your there's your guy 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.600 that can maybe come from nowhere. Kind of a thing 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.360 real quick in the tail end of the segment you 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.480 mentioned in, Brian, I think it's fascinating. The NFC East 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.760 kind of owns this draft a little bit. They do. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.360 The Giants picked twice in the top ten, they do. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.880 The Eagles have three picks in the top twenty, and 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.920 Washington is right there at eleven as a quarterback needy team. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.680 So I'm I'm curious for y'all's thoughts on how you 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.080 think that could shape the round and what the Cowboys 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.440 wind up doing. Like, so, you you think Washington is 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.280 going to target a quarterback. I think Washington is going 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.680 to target a quarterback, I really do, unless they trade 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.000 for one. I think that's the thing. There's two teams 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.720 you kind of have to worry about that might be 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.440 trading for quarterbacks in the division would be Philadelphia and Washington. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.720 Those would be the two, and then that would change 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.479 if you know, I don't know if you get rid 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.760 of the eleventh overall pick if you're the Commanders, but 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.959 you know, if you if in fact you trade for 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.480 Jimmy Garoppolo, then you're probably not in the quarterback market. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.640 You know, you're probably thinking about, Okay, let's go get 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.080 some offensive linemen, some skilled players. I mean, that's a 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.960 team that's very Maybe maybe that's what the second wide 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.840 receiver comes off the board. You know, someone to pair with, 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.159 you know, Terry McLaren and then Logan Thomas and those guys. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.919 I think Philadelphia has the chance to really shape this 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.439 draft up the most in the middle because I agree 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.560 with with Brian and the fact that Washington's going to 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.000 look at a quarterback at eleven. I think that is pure, 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.399 set and simple. It's probably gonna be Matt corral or 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.880 Kenney Pickett, maybe Malik Willis if they fall in love 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.720 with him. Now, Philadelphia, if they were to keep all 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.080 three of those picks, which I can't imagine them doing 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.959 at all, I agree. I think at some point they 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.359 either trade one of them and try and get something 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.320 out of it. Maybe they put them all in a 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.040 big package and they go try and get somebody. Either 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.720 one of those things are certainly possible. But if they 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.439 do make those picks, their needs kind of line up 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.440 with Dallas's needs. They need edge rusher, they need into 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.120 your offensive lineman, they need a corner, maybe a linebacker. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.000 I mean, that's exactly what Dallas is looking for as well. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.639 In terms of a team that could affect Dallas's draft 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.080 as much in the division, I think it's one hundred 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.479 percent of Philadelphia because they'll either use them to go 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.000 get a quarterback or they'll try and build around the 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.720 quarterback that they have. I could see you're absolutely right, 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.080 and I could see the Eagles breaking our hearts. Speak 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.000 like I'm looking at an Eagles and all Eagles mock 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:51.040 that has them taking Devin Lloyd o the linebacker out 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.800 of Utah, Drake London the USC receiver, and Jeff's guy, 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.440 Trent McDuffie Washington. That's that's three guys that you would 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.000 love to have. I was doing right now, just lining 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.679 up like if I were the Eagles, or if I 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.040 were an Eagles fan, if I were like drawing up 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.679 different scenarios of what it could look like and that 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.399 you wouldn't like as a Cowboy fan. And I was thinking, 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.560 what if Stingley makes it to fifteen and it's Stingley, 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.840 I don't like that, Or McDuffie as a corner linderbaumb 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.760 Nakobe Dean or Devin Lloyd coming off the board as 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:26.160 a linebacker there, and if I'm them and Jason Kelsey's 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.119 been incredible for us for so long. Probably take the 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.760 next Jason Kelsey and Tyler Linderbaum. And if not, then 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.159 they'll take an edge that you like, a receiver, you 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.960 like something like that. Would you rather Philadelphia if you're 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.040 a Cowboy fan, would you rather Philadelphia use two picks 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.560 to trade for a quarterback or let them take all 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.960 three picks chase a quarterback? Who's the quarterback? There's the 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.800 thing in this draft. Pick not not oh you mean 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:55.000 a prospect? No? No, no, no no, no, no, no, no no Watson, Yeah, Wilson. 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.479 I would use the picks. I would rather they use 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.800 it all the picks than Lando Watson or you know, Rogers. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.560 Seems unlikely. But just for the thought of so you 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.840 want them to use all three picks, yes, if that's 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.960 the alternative, Hell yeah, even tread all three of them 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.600 for Okay, what if it's for what if it's for Wilson? 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.919 What if it's for an older quarterback that might not 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.480 be in the division as long? I don't want to 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.280 have to play Russell Wilson on a good roster for 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.680 four or five more years now, thank you. In some ways, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.679 years go really fast, but in football. If you have 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.639 to watch a team that has Russell Wilson and a 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.400