1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. Unfortunately, 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: we're here today to talk about the end of the 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Packers season, a walk off to ten home loss to 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners in the NFC Divisional Round. 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know where you want to start with this, 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: and this show truly is unscripted, but all I will 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: say to start is that for a franchise that has 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: had a number of devastating playoff exits, this one was 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: in another fashion and it just gets added to the list. Yeah, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the whole weekend, it was kind of wild with how 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: these games ended to in this game, between what happened 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: with Kansas City and Buffalo UM, the four divisional round 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: games coming down to the final play of the game 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: being decided on the final snap of the game, which 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: has never happened before on divisional playoff weekend. But yes, 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: it was certainly historic in that I said it was 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a good weekend, Mike, But unfortunately that was 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: strictly from the viewers standpoint, It wasn't strictly from a 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Packer fan standpoint. Yeah, disappointing game. Uh. As I mentioned 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: in our show on Thursday, I was like, I was 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of pushing for the Packers to win because I 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: really didn't watch much of the football games on Sunday. 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I ended up clicking in and watching the final two 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: minutes of both games in the regulation our collige Grindhartig 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: was the one that was learning to me just the 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: craziness that was going on. But I think there's a 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys said during locker room clean out on 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Monday they really didn't feel like watching it, And I 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: don't blame them. I mean, it's it's a tough way 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: to go out and and certainly, as you mentioned, we've 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: covered a lot of these from two thousand eleven, uh 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: and the loss to the Giants after the fifteen and 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: one season to what happened in volv in thirteen with 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: the Ers, and you know, don't even get into with Seattle. 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: But it's a difficult thing because defensively, this is the 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: best defense the groom of Packers have really had, and 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: at least seven years you can maybe even make an 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: argument for before that and the defense came to play, 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: they allowed six points um, with the exception of really 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: that final drive gave them a chance to win and 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: only three points for fifty nine minutes and fifty six 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: seconds or whatever it was. Right and offensively, they come 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: out clicking, they come out looking strong. Um. Even that 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: second series, they're moving the ball and then there's the fumble. Um. 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: It was funny my friend Scott was talking to before 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: the game because I was asking about Fred, not asking 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: what we're talking about Fred Warner and I'm like, yeah, 51 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, Warners is a problem, and there was the 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: questions of what his health was going to be like. 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: And He's like, ah, he hasn't really made any plays 54 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: this year. He made a couple of big ones in 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: this game, and then certainly this special teams was a disappointment. 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, Mike, the Packers 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: had countless opportunities to win this game. They did not 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: get it done. And uh, it is going to be 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: a a long, um thoughtful offseason here as Green Bay 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: sort of tries to regroup for this next step. Yeah, 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: and that's certainly what we heard from the players who 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: spoke to the media via zoom on Monday, and then 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: also from the head coach you spoke, who spoke late 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon. You can you can feel the disappointment. 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: There's there's disappointment, there's shock, there's dismay um and to 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: say shocked. That's not to say that anybody was taking 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: anything for granted, but the Packers just but the Packers 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: believed in who they were. They believed they were the 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: better team. And and uh and quite frankly, you know, 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: as that game unfolded on on Saturday night, the way 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: the defense was playing, with the offense scoring a touchdown 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: on the opening drive and moving the ball in the 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: second drive before the fumble, you just felt like the 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Packers were going to be in command of this thing. 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: They were going to roll it right. But yet it 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: never you know, the block field goal at the end 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: of the first half makes it still just seven to nothing. 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: The Packers never even made it a two score game. 79 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: It was it was seven and nothing, then seven to three. 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Then they have a chance to make it a two 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: score game. You get goal to go right, but then 82 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: a false start kind of messes up. I think I 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: think the Packers wanted to try to pound Aaron Jones 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: there from the five yard line, but you get the 85 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: false start, you're pushed back to the ten, you have 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: to throw, you don't get it, you end up kicking 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: a field goal. Still a one score game, ten to three. 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: UM the Packers had numerous, numerous opportunities, and as much 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: as it felt like they should have had control of 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: the game early, it still comes down to you have 91 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: to be as we talked about on this show and 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: in final thoughts and everything else, you still in these games. 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: You have to be the better team in the fourth quarter. 94 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: You have to be the better team at crunch time 95 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: in order to win playoff games. And UH, and you 96 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: know crunch time was the final drive was really when 97 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: when the defense had I guess I would say it's 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: only real hiccup because certainly getting a fourth and one 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: stop with six minutes to go at the twenty yard line, 100 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: that's a huge, huge play right there. That is the 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: defense rising up and UH and making something happen. But 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: then the offense faltered, The special teams faltered with the 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: block punt, the offense faltered again, and UH and the 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: defense gave up just enough yards for Robbie Gold to 105 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to have a makeuple field goal and what turned into 106 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a snow globe game there in 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: the second half. The snow was falling, the windshills were dropping, 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: but the forty five yard or from from one of 109 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: the best cold weather kickers to do it was true 110 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: and and that was all she wrote. Such an idiotic 111 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: move by the Chicago Bears to cut that guy. Isn't 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: that amazing? Um, what what a find he's been and 113 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: he's in a six year now. I think with San Francisco, 114 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: um and go dude. As soon as Gold came on, 115 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: I I'm not saying I was completely like, ah, this 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: is pretty much over, but I mean, I I've said 117 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: it for a long time. I think him and Mason 118 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for what they've accomplished in their careers. 119 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: And certainly robb he's gone out to San Francisco and 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: a warmer climate and still performed really well. But I 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: certainly wasn't thinking he was going to miss I was 122 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: just so unless there was, you know, a major gust 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: of winds suddenly that was gonna that was gonna misdirect 124 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: that that football. But um, this has not Soldier field 125 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: where the winds can get really crazy. So that wasn't 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: in the card. No, And and I I have a 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: hard time putting this on the defense still because ultimately 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: I know they're disappointed. And certainly Samuel gets that nine 129 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: yard run and and that kind of put him for 130 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: sure in kicking range. But the fact of the matter 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: is the defense rarely ruptured in this game. I'm trying 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: to think if they even had a play over twenty 133 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: yards offensively for San Francisco eighteen yards throughout the course 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: of this game. It was close. I think Kittle might 135 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: have had one, right, Yeah, but before the before the 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: fourth and one stop, Kittle had I believe a twenty 137 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: four yard catch and run that was actually on a 138 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: third and eleven. It was really one of the only 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: third and long until the Samuel run at the end, 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: the only real third and long breakdown the Packers defense had. 141 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Um Kittle had about a twenty four yard reception. But 142 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: then the next series is the one that ended with 143 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: the fourth and one stop, and the defense got the 144 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: ball back to Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and defensively, I just 145 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I was so impressed by you know, Rashawn Gary was 146 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: just the man amongst boys out there, said, Darius Smith 147 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: comes out. He only played nineteen snaps, but gets a 148 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: sack on his first play. I thought Joe Barry showed 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot of creativity with the packages. Matt Floor said, 150 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: he challenged him to come up with some different looks 151 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: at San Francisco hasn't seen before. He definitely did that. 152 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Um But but ultimately after the fourth and one stop, 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: you have to be able to move the ball, and 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: unfortunately for Green Bay, I think one thing we learned 155 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: in this game was just how important A. J. Dillon 156 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: is to this offense and how important he's going to 157 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: be moving forward. And that's not a discredit to Aaron Jones. 158 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones had what a hundred and seventy total yards 159 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: in this game, I mean, really strong performance. But when 160 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: they needed to pound the football, unfortunately they lose Dylan 161 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: to the fractured rib on the kickoff return. Uh and 162 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: and that kind of took away that dimension of their 163 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: offense and and certainly weren't able to push the ball 164 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: down field. I know the play a lot of fans 165 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about for a lot of long 166 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: time is that the third and eleven Rogers tries the 167 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: pass down field to two Adams and double coverage when 168 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: it appears that Lazard's coming free over the middle. That's 169 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: the game in its hindsight, and that's the way these 170 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: things roll sometimes. I still felt, you know, even though 171 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: the offense kind of fell into some dul rooms there, 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: even though the defense, I honestly felt the whole time 173 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: that as long as the Packers don't turn over this football, 174 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: they're going to be Okay. This is the type of 175 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: game where I think they were playing good enough that 176 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to hold off the forty niners. 177 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: The block punt happens, the block punt goes for a touchdown. Yeah, 178 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the block punt was the equivalent of a turnover. 179 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't go as a turnover in the statistics, but it 180 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: was the same thing as a scoop and score or 181 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: a pick six. I mean, there's five minutes left in 182 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: the game, the Packers are up by seven points, and yes, 183 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: you would hope after the big fourth and one stop. 184 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: You and I am you know, we we were sitting there, 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: We're thinking the same thing. It's like, Okay, no matter 186 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: how many minutes you can kill or whatever, but at 187 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: ten to three, you go down and get and kick 188 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: a field goal, thirteen to three, a two score game, 189 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: and it's over. For all of the offensive struggles. The 190 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: offense just needed one drive in the fourth quarter, whether 191 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: it was that one or after the after the block punt. 192 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: And uh, not only could the offense not put together 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: a drive, it couldn't even get a first down. And uh. 194 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's what that's what's so so disappointing about the exit. 195 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean it was it was on 196 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, the face, the tone of voice of Aaron Rodgers, 197 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur after the game. The this is a darn 198 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: good offense with really really good offensive players, and when 199 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: when they absolutely needed it and everyone expected it, it 200 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: couldn't deliver. And and that's that's hard to swallow. That 201 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: that that's tough to swallow when you're really good at 202 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: what you do and you can't do it when it 203 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: matters most that can petitors these guys are, that's that's 204 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,239 Speaker 1: tough to take. And uh and and they have unfortunately, 205 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a long time in the off season 206 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to think about it. Yeah, And I think that's the 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: hardest part with these things like I was thinking about 208 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: as we walked in the studio. Um, you know, it's January, 209 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: the time in which we're taping this, basically six months 210 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: since the start of training camp. It's almost like that 211 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: intermediate point where six months removed from the start of 212 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: training camp. It's six months away from the start of 213 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: training camp. There's a lot of time in between there 214 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: to have to to ponder this. Um. Certainly, there were 215 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: some great stories this year and in the in the 216 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: coming days, you know, we'll have another one of these 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: and we'll review some of that. But you know, to 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: have the Russeul Douglas is step up, the Devondre Campbell's, 219 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: to see a guy like Dennis Kelly uh Not play 220 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: half the season and then be the right tackle against 221 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa in the most important game of the season. 222 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Those those things I think made this year feel a 223 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: little bit different because certainly the Packers have probably had 224 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: deeper teams if it, definitely had healthier teams, but where 225 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: they needed guys and veterans and young here Is alike 226 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: to really respond. They did that. And you got your 227 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Alexander back for this game in a limited fashion. You've 228 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: got Sadarius back, Whitney Merciless had the freaking harness on 229 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: playing in this game. It just felt like things were 230 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: finally turning for Green Bay. But unfortunately, as we always 231 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: realize with these things, it ends suddenly and this is 232 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: the end of this journey. And as I kind of 233 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: close our Insider Inbox with on Monday into Tuesday Mornings edition, 234 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: and you just got to start the other the next climb. 235 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: As difficult as that is, that's the way this game works. Unfortunately, 236 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: it's the best of one scenario. Mike and I've talked 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: about it so many times, and for how hard these 238 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: teams have to work to get a playoff spot, to 239 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: get a bye, to to get that it ultimately comes 240 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: down to those sixty seconds, and in Green Bas case, 241 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: it didn't go in their favor. Yea to review. A 242 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: few thoughts from Matt Lafleur on Monday when he gave 243 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: his his conducted his season ending media session over Zoom. Obviously, 244 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: he was asked about Aaron Rodgers in the future of 245 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodger, Matt Lafleur saying that he and the front office, um, 246 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page and wanting Aaron Rodgers to 247 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: come back. They are going to give him his give 248 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: him his space to contemplate what he wants to do. 249 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers has talked about that retirement is possibly on the table, 250 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: though he still says um the competitive fire burns, he 251 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: does want to continue playing. He doesn't want to be 252 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: part of a rebuild. If that's where Green Bay has headed. 253 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur trying to reassure with his words that they're 254 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: for all of the contract and salary cap challenges. There 255 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: is a plan. There is a plan that they don't 256 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: have to blow this whole thing up, that they feel 257 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: they can still be a competitive team and keep things 258 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: going in the right direction. Um if if they can, um, 259 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: if they can bring Aaron Rodgers back, and if he 260 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: wants to continue playing for Green Bay. Um, I don't 261 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: think this is based on what Rodgers has said, it 262 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like this is going to take long to 263 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: sort out. There there's going to be an answer. We're 264 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: not going to be wondering in the middle of July 265 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: like last year, oh, where things are headed with Aaron Rodgers. 266 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: But but right now it's sort of it's sort of 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: like everything is on hold and it's just wait and 268 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: uh and find out what the presumptive back to back 269 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: m v P quarterback is going to decide to do. 270 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: To me, there there's really two scenarios here that in 271 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: my mind as far as how this thing should go. Um, 272 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: if Rogers decides, you know, pon some some reflection and 273 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: looking at things, that this is it, this is the 274 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: time to go out, you know, could very well end 275 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: up getting his fourth m v P here in a 276 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. If he wants to end, you know, 277 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: at the peak of his position. I wouldn't blame him 278 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: for that at all. But if he does want to 279 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: play again, if he wants to come back for year eighteen, 280 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: I still think it has to be here. Well, we'll 281 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: see what happens. I understand there's a lot of things 282 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: with the contract and that and things they have to 283 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: figure out. But I was watching those games over the weekend, Mike, 284 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: and I understand how this history has gone and how 285 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: things have been in the playoffs for Green Bay recently. 286 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: But it's just it's so I thought about I watched 287 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen with the Bills, right, and it's not about 288 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: how Josh Allen plays a position, Aaron Roch plays decision. 289 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I thought about how many quarterbacks the Buffalo Bills had 290 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: to go through between Jim Kelly and Josh Allen to 291 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: get to that moment, right, I thought about the issues 292 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: that Kansas City went through for a lot of years. 293 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City wasn't always the team that's going to all 294 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: these a f C Championship games. There are a lot 295 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: of years in between there where you had, you know, shoot, 296 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: random quarterbacks just kind of ended up being the starter 297 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: there for for some time, and and they couldn't they 298 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: couldn't find their next guy. Uh really, I guess unless 299 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting somebody since what Joe Montana Elvis Gerback was 300 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: in there a little bit. The point I'm trying to 301 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: illustrate is that it's difficult to find franchise quarterbacks and 302 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: if you feel like this team still wants to compete 303 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: for a championship, which Matt Laflour that was probably the 304 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: biggest thing that came out of his forty three minute presser. 305 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: They're not rebuilding, They're not. That isn't where they're looking 306 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: at right now. Realistically, probably what's going to have to happen, though, 307 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: he said, difficult decisions will have to be made and 308 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to probably end up making some decisions 309 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: at some veteran positions if they want to go with 310 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: some of the younger guys that have been coming up. 311 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: That was the one thing we learned about this season, Mike, 312 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of young guys on this roster, 313 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: specifically on the defensive side of the ball that stepped 314 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: into bigger roles this year and really grabbed that opportunity 315 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, by the horns and made the most of it. 316 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: So and the reality of how it works in this 317 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: league is younger is cheaper, right, And when you have 318 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: a salary cap to deal with, if you have young 319 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: players that you feel can step in and do the 320 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: job and they don't, they don't take up as much 321 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: cap space. Those are That's what's called the difficult decisions 322 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: because it's not saying that that veteran guy who has 323 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: the bigger contract that he can't play and that he 324 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: can't help you. Um. It's it's making the decision based 325 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: on all of the factors, right, Um, you know, all 326 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: of all of the financial ramifications and what each decision 327 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: relative to the salary cap means for all the other 328 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: positions on the roster. It's this big puzzle that needs 329 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: to be put together, and you know that this is 330 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: this is something they've been you know, they're not talking 331 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: about it publicly, but you know they know the situation 332 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: with the contracts, the money they pushed out in order 333 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: to keep this group, the most of the group together, 334 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: in order to make this run at it. They knew 335 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: exactly what they were doing, but they but they didn't 336 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: just do it. They didn't just do it and then say, Okay, well, 337 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: we'll deal with the rest of it later. They know 338 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: there are things that are going to change over the 339 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,359 Speaker 1: course of how certain guys play and and and potentially 340 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: injuries and how things play out. But they have a 341 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: plan for what they're going to do with all of 342 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: the contract situation, the financial ramifications. But as both of 343 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: us have said, with Aaron Rodgers situation, and then with 344 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Davante Adams and him having an expiring contract and and 345 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: being on the brink of unrestricted free agency, those are 346 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: the first two dominoes here, um the quarterback and the 347 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league. And whichever way those 348 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: go is going to determine. You know, now there are 349 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: those who are saying, well, Aaron Rodgers is going to 350 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: want to know what the other moves are. Well, As 351 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: I said, they have a plan, and they will present 352 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: that plan to him. I believe they will show him 353 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: this is what we plan to do. If you are here. 354 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers is not here, there may be a 355 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: different plan than in terms of how they go about it. 356 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: But um, the first two decisions that have to be 357 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: made and have to get settled our number twelve and 358 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: number seventeen. Yeah, and those are those are the biggest dominoes, 359 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: the heaviest dominoes, And once those fall, I think the 360 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: rest of the offseason sort of takes care of itself. 361 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: In that regard that. The thing about the Rogers scenario, 362 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of discussion about it in 363 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: the days and weeks ahead. I've been saying this for 364 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: a number of years now, and I want to make 365 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: this abundantly clear because I've seen a lot of comparisons 366 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: towards the end of the far era in two thousand 367 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: seven and things of that nature. Rogers pretty much has 368 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: always been pretty transparent with what his intentions are. Even 369 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: last year when there there was those questions of whether 370 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: or not he was coming back, I never really got 371 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: the feeling of it was he was going to do 372 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: that or he was going to be done. It just 373 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: seemed like he probably was gonna end up playing. It 374 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: just matters, you know, if they could make it work here, 375 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: which they did. I don't feel like this is going 376 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: to be a situation that really gets you know, strung along, 377 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: let alone to July. But I'm saying even the months ahead, 378 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: I think the Packers will have a pretty clear idea. 379 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I think Rogers is very clearheaded and focused on what 380 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: he wants to do. Um, you gotta give him his 381 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: time a lot of let him sort it out. But 382 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I feel like because the question kept getting asked, well, 383 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, developing your plan for the off season and 384 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: those sort of things, they'll figure that out. Yeah, you 385 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: know that these next couple of weeks, they're gonna look 386 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: at what other NFL teams are doing. They're gonna self scoult. 387 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: They certainly have to figure out what the coaching staff 388 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: situation is going to be, where all those things are. 389 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: That's that's what the end of January into early februaries about. Yeah, 390 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: and and Matt and Matt Lafleur did say he hadn't 391 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: as of Monday, afternoon, he hadn't even gotten to the 392 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: evaluation of the coaching staff. It's for for those for 393 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: those who don't understand, it's a very methodical process that 394 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: every head coach goes through at the end of every season, 395 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: where the meets with all of his individual coaches, there's 396 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: an evaluation process. Step by step, they go through everything 397 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: and then decisions are made and so um for those 398 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: who are wondering what might be happening with the coaching staff, 399 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: whether whether it's in regard to special teams or if 400 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett moves on he's a finalist for the Denver 401 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: Broncos coaching job, and then that could um lead to 402 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: some changes obviously here in Green Bay. But Matt Lafleur 403 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: said that process has has not even really begun yet 404 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: because because the players were still just cleaning out their lockers. 405 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: So it's wait and see in that regard, Yeah, and 406 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: then you know, it's a typical thing. Is he even 407 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: mentioned on Monday, it was a lot of eggs and interviews, 408 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: a lot of discussions. That's where the discussion came with Rogers. 409 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: It's whereas the discussion came with Adams as well. I 410 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: think everybody understands what's at stake here and where they're 411 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: going to try to line this thing up for the future. 412 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: And that's not even just to clear this up too, 413 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: that's not even necessarily an indictment on Jordan's Love. The 414 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: point I was just trying to illustrate with what I 415 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: was saying is that you don't want to wish away 416 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback, and because there's just no guarantee what 417 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be on the other side of it, 418 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: I still think, in my opinion, Rogers comes back. I 419 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: still think that's a great scenario for Love to get 420 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: another year of seasoning, just like Rogers did getting the 421 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: third year behind Brett Farve. All those things have to 422 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: figure them, you know, you have to get be determined. 423 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: But again, I think once the calendar flips towards March 424 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: and we get closer to the Looke New League year, 425 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: I think everybody will have a pretty clear vision of 426 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: what's ahead for the Packers and what challenges they're gonna 427 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: have to overcome to to put together this two thousand 428 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: two roster. Yeah. 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Um, just those Sunday 438 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: games Rams, and I mean to two down to the 439 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: wire thrilling games that unfolded completely differently, right, I mean 440 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams have a twenty four point lead 441 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: on Tampa Bay and uh, and then they start fumbling 442 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: the football all over the place and the Buccaneers end 443 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: up getting the score tied. And then um, Matthew Stafford pulls, 444 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: pulls a Cooper cup out of his hat and uh 445 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: and hits Uh the all Pro receiver on back to 446 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: back plays and they get in position for a walk 447 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: off field goal. And then the last two minutes at 448 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium between the gun Slinger duel whatever you want 449 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: to call it, between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, absolutely stunning, 450 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: and for for as much as for as much you know, 451 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm not just trying to say misery likes company, but 452 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: for as much as Packer Nation is hurting after a 453 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: loss like that one to San Francisco. The Buffalo Bills 454 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: scored to go ahead touchdown with thirteen seconds left west 455 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: and they had to defend. They gave up forty four 456 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: yards in two plays that took ten seconds with the timeouts, 457 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: and then the field goal tied the game and sent 458 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: it to overtime. I mean, it's kind of it's kind 459 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: of ridiculous. I saw I saw one. I saw one 460 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: tweet that Patrick Mahomes drove the Chiefs forty four yards 461 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: and kicked a field goal in less time than it 462 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: took Dak Prescott to run a quarterback dor on stop 463 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: the clock seriously, And that's that's just true. It's crazy 464 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: to think about. But he pulled it off. And somehow 465 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills scoring a go ahead touchdown in a 466 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: playoff game with thirteen seconds left couldn't win the game. Yeah, 467 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: and Buffalo, I mean for them not to squib that 468 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: kick with thirteen seconds left to kick in the ends, 469 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know what the plan was there, um, 470 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: especially with the time outs that Kansas City had, that 471 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Man, 472 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the Packers. I know, you're always 473 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: going to favor your team because that's when you watch 474 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: the most, right, that's where fans talk about them having 475 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: their hearts ripped out. There might not have been a 476 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: team that deserved to be in the super Bowl more 477 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: than the Bills this year just because of for lack 478 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: of a better term, they have circled the wagons so 479 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: to speak, when it's come to making it to the 480 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and they just haven't been able to make 481 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: that step. And Mahomes has been really the big, you know, 482 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: obstacle to making that happen. I mean, these single the 483 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: single best player in all of the NFL postseason thus 484 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: far is not playing for a conference championship, and that's 485 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Josh Allen has been an absolute mega star 486 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: in this postseason and yet yet his team is his 487 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: team is home, just like uh, you know, twenty seven 488 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: other teams. Yeah, and and you know you give credit 489 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: to Mahomes, you gotta give credit to Harrison Buckner too 490 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: to be able to make that kick. That's a big kick. Oh, 491 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: that's big. That's a big time kick. I mean outdoors 492 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: on grass not I mean Kansas City was not lambeau 493 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: Field in terms of conditions, but it wasn't It wasn't 494 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: sunny Florida either. No, and and for it really did 495 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: feel like that was probably the most important coin to 496 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: us in terms of the overtime as I can remember, 497 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: because I don't think either team has probably stopping the 498 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: other one. No, those those both of those defenses, the 499 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: tanks were empty. There's there's no question about it. Neither 500 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: neither one of those defenses had anything left. And for 501 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: the Rams, you feel good for Matthew Stafford. I've said 502 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: that for a long time. I think Stafford went about 503 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: it in the right way. In Detroit. I think he, 504 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of had some some mud thrown over 505 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: his legacy there just because of some of the talent, 506 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, dearth of talent that they had for a 507 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: number of seasons. It's good to see him be able 508 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: to make a big playoff, you know, push at the 509 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: end Cooper Cup is exceptional. Yeah, you have you have 510 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: to give you have to give Stafford credit. You tip 511 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: your cap to Stafford because he came into this. He 512 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: was brought to the Rams. You know, in in this 513 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, complete all in sellout move by the Rams 514 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: and how they built their roster right to go win 515 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. And he's a quarterback who hadn't won 516 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: a playoff game. There's a lot of pressure on him. 517 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: He got his first playoff win. That Arizona Cardinals had 518 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: a god awful performance, but Matthew Stafford gets his first 519 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: playoff win and it felt to me West watching from 520 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: from Matthew Stafford a playoffs passed to that game in 521 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay on Sunday. Suddenly, with one playoff win under 522 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: his belt, Matthew Stafford was in his element in the postseason. 523 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: He was there and for as badly as that looked 524 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: for the Rams to blow that lead, it was all 525 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford's teammates that were making all the mistakes. 526 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: He wasn't making. He wasn't the one making the mistakes 527 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: and giving the ball away. His teammates were that game. 528 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: That game was was almost handed to the Buccaneers. But 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: then when the Chips were down, Matthew Stafford came through 530 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: and uh and got a slightly injured kicker who came 531 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: up short from forty seven yards got him close enough 532 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: to be able to make that game winning kick in 533 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: a walk off scenario. Yeah, Matthew Kay has been so 534 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: good for them this year too. I think he's a 535 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: pro bowler if I remember correctly. I mean, it really 536 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: has been strong. But then dealing with some of these issues. 537 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Air's what's interesting, Wake because now you've got either San 538 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: Francisco or the Rams are going to the Super Bowl. 539 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: Right Either the Rams are going to kind of fulfill 540 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: this prophecy that they've sort of ad here with Sean 541 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: McVeigh and getting back to that game, or I think 542 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: officially you put San Francisco right in that category with 543 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: Green Bay from two thousand and ten. As far as 544 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 1: a team that got fired got caught on fire late 545 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: in the season one, difficult games and difficult circumstances to 546 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: be able to advance knocked off the number one seed, 547 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: both of those stories are great. On the other side 548 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: of the conference, you have the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe Burrow, 549 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: who looked like they're going to probably be one of 550 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: the more exciting teams for years to come, very interested 551 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: to see if they can win the games necessary to 552 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: get a Super Bowl just based on the way they play. 553 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: It's they're flying by the seat of their pants a 554 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: little bit, but they're incredibly talented, have great offensive weapons. 555 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: And then the other one is the Kansas City Chiefs, 556 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: which is the dynasty that has really sort of emerged 557 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: here in this league. And Patrick Mahomes at six years old, uh, 558 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: him really carrying this team on its back, them having 559 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: early season adversity and now make another championship run. I 560 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: don't know how much of the breast of the playoffs 561 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll be watching, but it does set up really well 562 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: for some entertaining football y'ere down the stretch. Yeah, it 563 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: should be pretty exciting. And uh and yeah, I mean 564 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: the the um the Cincinnati Cincinnati Bengals going into going 565 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: into Arrowhead Stadium mean they just won a big road 566 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: game in Nashville, obviously, but from an environment standpoint, in 567 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Nashville is not Arrowhead. I mean, um, Joe Burrows walking 568 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: into a into a completely different situation and Josh Allen 569 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: answered the bell um. Now we'll see if we'll see 570 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow can even though Josh Allen came up 571 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: short but no fault of his own by any stretch 572 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: there So with that we'll call it a rap on 573 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers on Scripted. 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