WEBVTT - Rob Tonyan Jr. 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.960 Welcome back to another episode of Busting with the Boys. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.840 I'm your host Will Compton, the boy Taylor my co host. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.600 He is in the midst of training camp right now. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.080 You are listening to me right now, I am talking 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.160 on this intro on Monday, August. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:17.160 What is it August first? 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.639 Yeah, it's fucking crazy that Joe like, we're we're in 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.360 the August Boys, We're in the August territory, their first 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.000 day at pads. I'm sure that he just brutal out there, 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:29.880 shout out to those boys for grinding. I'm so glad 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.760 I'm not in that training campete right now or and 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.559 I won't be. I've actually missed if you guys think 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.960 about it, I have. Obviously this year is like different. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:41.839 I can claim this year, I guess, but if we 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.560 include this year, i'ven't been to like the last four 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:49.239 training camps the finesse king time will tell if I 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.120 finessed this finesse, this training camp and going to going 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:52.640 to a season. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:53.440 At some point. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.360 Before we get started, we got a shout out the 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:01.200 greatest truck on the road, the Chevy Silverado. Can you 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.720 blow that up for me a little bit? Jack, If 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.640 you're looking to make a summer story a strong one. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.120 The Chevy Silverado can take you there and that story 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.720 will start as soon as you take the wheel. 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I went with the boy 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.520 Mike Chandler, not the Flex because we're friends, but's also flex. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.240 We might be looking at a fight in November. I 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.639 don't think it should be my news to break if 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.680 there isn't news yet, but we could potentd be looking 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.160 at a fight in November. Potentially. There's nothing that's set 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.600 in stone. Jp R analysts are UFC analysts. Is there 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.600 something that's set in stone? Or is this all just 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:11.560 hearsay right now? 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.720 Just hearsay right now? But what do you think is 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:18.280 gonna happen? 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.640 I believe I have not spoken with Michael Tandler or 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:26.919 me or will I am. According to my sources, we 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.040 will be seeing Michael Chandler versus Dustin Foier. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.520 Okay, and maybe November we'll have a zero reaction to that. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.040 We talk after the show. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:36.880 Uh. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.839 But went to Summer Slam, dude. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.400 That was an awesome experience going to the ww that 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:43.240 was my first one ever. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.080 I've never been to any of this this stuff. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.680 I've been to like a I've been to like in 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.440 sue Llard in Saint Louis, Missouri. I went to like 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.720 one of those wrestling nights where there's like, yeah, the 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.680 N word, are we allowed to say the N word? 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:05.360 Lee Corso did say he not so fast midget. Oh 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.480 that's just me nervous laughing right there. But yeah, where 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.560 they have the wrestling event like inside of like a cafeteria. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.240 But other than that, I've never been to. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.120 Like ad WCWWWF WWE, none of it, dude, And that 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.840 was electric. Bro Watching McAfee perform. I mean, he's got 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.000 like three moves, but I love all of them. The 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.880 backflip off the top, does the slow front flip onto somebody, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.359 the sporadic punching. That's another move of his, but it 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.839 was electric Logan. Paul Logan, Paul is going to be 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.680 a WW superstar, like he legit might be the Yeah 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.000 he's an athlete, he legit might be the world the 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.720 world champion one day. It's interesting too because I started 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.000 following Logan like back in his Vine days, Like he 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.640 was one of the first people that got thrusted into Vine. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.040 And apparently he was really good in high school football 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.480 and wrestling, like very competitive. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:59.360 I think they grew up. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.640 They grew up in Ohio, right, Yeah, so like a 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.080 state that's all about wrestling in fucking football, and Logan 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:06.800 was apparently really good in that stuff. And I didn't 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.560 know much more outside of like him him claiming or 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.680 stuff like that happening on Vine it times. But you 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.840 can tell like he was a good athlete back in 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.320 the day. I mean the dudes like the frog splash 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:24.159 off the top buckle it onto a table landing that right, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.640 Like it's crazy watching them everybody kind of like perform 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:28.960 and put on that kind of show. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.960 Uh, But that was that was that was cool. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.719 It was cool in Nissan Stadium, ended up finassing my 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:35.919 way to the front row. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.479 Started off, started off far away. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.600 We were I mean, I feel like it's a flex 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.479 saying I was in a suite, but it wasn't that 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.680 great of an experience in the suite, Like you're very 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.440 far away, You're trying to watch the TV and it's 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.840 kind of like the timing is off with it. End 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.839 up finessing getting all the way down to the front row. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:54.360 That was. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.719 That was insane. Yeah, I would go to more. I 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.039 would go to more. Well, what else Taylor going ghost 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.279 on social media? Obviously training campus started. The boy I 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.240 felt like was very quick to say his farewell on 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.840 social media, like we got a month of the season, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.000 big dog, it's you know. But I've spoken with him, 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.200 he said, the first forty eight hours, obviously you had 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.760 some withdrawals. He wanted to really get back on. There's 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.839 itching to get on the apps. But after that, he 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.120 says he's been in a very good rhythm. He's been 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.000 very efficient with his days. Wakes up his words, wakes 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:29.920 up every day five thirty in the morning, gets over 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.160 and gets his workout in before practice, and all that 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.080 starts before meetings start, so he doesn't have to lift 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.040 after practice. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.360 I mean that is a. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.920 Very good veteran move because you hate having the workout 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.880 after practice because your legs are shot, you're tired, you're sweating, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.039 you don't want to change from your cleats to your shoes, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.760 and then go back in there and work out absolutely brutal. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.400 And then he says he's in bed, like in bed 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.359 by eight o'clock, which sounds like love in the training 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.320 camp world, because if you're back at the hotel or 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.920 you're back chilling at like seven thirty or seven, that's 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:10.360 a nice training camp day. I know Rabel's first year, Yeah, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.480 because I didn't really do training camp the second time 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.640 I was here. The first year I was here, we 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.559 didn't get out of training camp until like eight thirty. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.360 And I know some teams out there will keep you 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.440 until like a thirty nine o'clock. I know with Washington, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.040 we would go first meeting would be at like seven 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.120 in the morning or seven thirty in the morning, and 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.360 then our last meeting wouldn't end until like nine thirty, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.480 nine thirty with snack time because we're in like the 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.520 we're in like a hotel, we're like off site from 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:35.280 the facility. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.720 But bro that entire day, like you would have a. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.640 Good like lunch break, you'd have like two hours once 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:41.920 you got back to the hotel to. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:42.560 Kind of like eat. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.560 You would the move would be eat fast, or take 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.160 your food upstairs, get in the Norman tech sleeves, those 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.240 lakes leaves, those compression those compression recovery lake system deals, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.480 and uh, you would try to eat as fasts you can, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.240 and then you try and like fall asleep for like 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:02.720 an hour. But if you're back, what's up? Uh is 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.240 it two weeks or some more? It's it's up until 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.200 like the third preseason game. Once you hit like the 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.360 third preseason game is when you're kind of home free. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.640 That's where you would break camp and then we'd make 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.880 our way back to ashburn. I feels in Washington, Tennessee's 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.120 obviously they have everything like at their facility. They stay 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.880 in like a hotel down the road. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.720 But yeah, dude, he's apparently been okay. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.760 He says it's going by fast because he doesn't have 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.160 the phone to fucking distract him, which I think is 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:31.840 an awesome thing. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.839 I'm just I'm just ready to see the boys play 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:37.400 this season. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.199 And once Spootober hits, you know, the boy's gonna have 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.400 a little bit of FOMO. The good news is for 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.440 everybody that's listening, Taylor is going to be joined and 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:49.880 busting with the boys every week on Mondays. I believe 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.319 during the season to do the intro with us, to 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.520 shout out no free shoutouts, to tear talk, having a 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.800 good time, taking a little you know, I guess break 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.520 from being twenty four to seven ball. However, he will 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.319 say off social media the entire year. I think that's 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.199 a big win that the boy will be on the bus, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:08.719 so everybody will get to still see the boy on 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.559 the bus. Uh dude, big news coming out of Busting 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:19.000 Busting HQ. It is currently Wednesday, tomorrow. The boys are 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.480 traveling to Green Bay's training camp. This will be our 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.240 first training camp busting Hard knocks boots on the ground. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:34.840 We're gonna be interviewing Lafleur, hopefully Baktyari, twelve Man. We're 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:36.520 trying to get that interview with twelve. We're trying to 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.720 get that interview with Aaron Rodgers. Obviously Rob Tanyan, this 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.880 is his episode, so we did him right before, uh, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.839 right before he left for training camp here in Nashville. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.600 Then may be prest Smith. If we get prest Smith 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.599 on Yeah, yeah, yeah about the task. Talked about the 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.800 tat catch up on us since we play together in Washington. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.640 But yeah, I think we'll have a huge episode of Lafleur. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.720 But however, our first training camp some of the boys 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.680 or going to training camp next year. I think that 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.240 just kind of sets up like a training camp, some 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.160 type of training camp. Name whether it's if we get 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.240 Pisachi on, I just don't know. For he'll come on. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.280 Here's what's gonna happen, guys, if we get Pisachi on, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.560 I'm calling it now. He's gonna step on, He's gonna 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.160 call me Johnny Carson. This is your fucking radio show, Like, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.400 what the where the fuck am I? He's just gonna 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.000 talk shit and his go to moves are gonna be 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.320 the radio show and Johnny Carson. So I'm just saying, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.240 I'm just calling it now. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:28.439 Huh. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.080 Not a bad compliment at all, but just shows that 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.760 he's old, he's long in the tooth. He's gonna be 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.600 he's gonna repeat his jokes because those are those are 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.760 those are his jokes when he whenever if he were 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.320 to text me or whenever I was on the Raiders, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.240 last year, but going to Green Bay. We're fucking stoked 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.480 about it. Maybe the boys, maybe we'll pop up at 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.640 Titans training camp later on in the month. Maybe I'll 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.360 hit a rave and see if we can shake something. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.000 Because then you you kind of have the concept of 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.520 going to training camp with Green Bay. Now you take 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.000 this concept and then try to rinse and repeat with whether. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.480 I mean, we have connects and Titans Atlanta. I'm sure 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.000 we could get in Washington if we wanted to go 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.439 to Washington, but Washington would be kind of tough because 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.920 that's not they're not you have to That's a huge travel. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.040 It's a lot of travel right there in a short 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.000 period of time. Like we're already in August fall, our 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.400 fall schedule that's coming, that's coming out. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.199 I alluded to it a couple of days ago or. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.400 Over the weekend that we have, we're going to four college, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:29.319 college stadiums, college campuses. We're gonna host five Titans tailgates 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.839 because obviously we're always for the boys. We started right 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.480 here in Nashville, Tennessee. The Tennessee Titans are first love 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:43.600 taylorwan Reill, we see, and then we're gonna host one 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.480 watch party I believe the watch party, Garrett, have you 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.360 been talking with act me at all? 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:48.959 Okay, So we. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.720 Will be doing everything at ACME again this year, so 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:56.480 you can look forward to the home opener against the Giants. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.040 We will be hosting a tailgate at ACME, feed and 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.160 seed right off for some brought away right across from 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.840 the water. You can see the stadium, the pedestrian walkway, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.520 we're right next to you. Come party with us on 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.240 the rooftop, the second floor wherever we're set up, buying 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.480 new merch, buying all this shit, and then we're gonna 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:11.800 go have a good time as the boys with the 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.680 Giants ass in week one. We can also confirm that 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.079 the watch party is going to be against green Bay, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.360 right correct. Green Bay are at Tennessee at green Bay. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:25.079 It's a Thursday night game on November twenty seventh. Twenty seventh. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.760 That's gonna be confirmed. There's more up there that we're 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.640 confirming right now. I don't want to give away our 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.280 schedule too much because I'm sure we'll have a nice 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.120 little fun graphic and then the college games we're gonna 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.120 be going to is it looks like it sounds like 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.520 what we are working on the home opener at Nebraska 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.400 on September third, North Dakota at Nebraska. We're obviously gonna 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.400 drag them across the center of the Earth and start 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.000 off the season two and zero because we're gonna win 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.160 over in Dublin against Northwestern against the Nerds. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.439 Then we are looking to go to. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.800 Obviously the bus and Bowl that's gonna be on November twelfth. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.280 You got it right here, Garrett, to where we can 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.520 go in sequence. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.079 Yeah, I got it right here. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.559 After Nebraska on September third, will be in Knoxville for 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.280 trying to see Florida. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:17.920 Game Florida at Volunteers. Correct, that's on September twenty fourth, right, correct. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.360 Barstool Football Show will be there as well. That'll be 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.120 a good time location to be determined about where we'll 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:23.679 be parked at. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.439 What's after the Tennessee one. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.520 The next one is going to be Clemson at Notre 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.600 Dame on eleven five. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.559 You know why that fires me up because I haven't 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.400 planned one seed to be at that game, and well, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.160 I'm just saying that we're fucking we're. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:42.040 Gonna be there. Yeah, some waist somehow really, Oh yeah, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:42.760 let's go. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.120 We're gonna have a Shane come with us. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.520 Yeah, So that's the only seed I've planned. I reached 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:48.960 out to Shane Gillis. I'm like, hey, what are you 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.600 doing November fifth, Clemson at Notre Dame? Do you want 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:52.880 to come with us? We're gonna get the bus out 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.760 to Notre Dame somewhere somehow. We're gonna make it fucking happen. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.120 If anybody from Notre Dame's out there listening right now, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:13:59.960 help us out if you can, if you have any 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.920 hook cups, you have any connects, places to go to. Obviously, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.560 we'll reach out to Michael Mayer, who's obviously a friend 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.320 of the show now stud and see how well we 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.360 can shake up there. Maybe we interview him again a 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.280 couple of days before the game. But we're gonna some way, somehow, 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:15.800 we're gonna get our asses out to Notre Dame for 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.520 the Clemson at Notre Dame game prime time, and then 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.360 the Bust and Bowl. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:24.040 And then the next week is the Bust and Bowls. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.280 Twelve in the Big House at Michigan Nebraska, Michigan, two 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.440 undefeated teams going at it for the Battle of the Bus, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.240 the Bust and Bowl. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.160 As matter of fact, if we if we have verbal 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:35.480 we have. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:40.760 Verbal commitments from every party, the head, coaches, the ads. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.520 We have to get ink on paper, our lawyer back there, Jack, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.240 it will be that same document we have to get 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.000 ink on paper. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.800 But we have verbal commitments from everybody. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.600 That that we are declaring Nebraska versus Michigan for the 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.400 next however many years, a Bust and. 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:57.520 Bowl next eight years. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.640 Yes, if ready, trophy's not ready yet, but trophy is 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.440 getting made. Trophy's been getting made for I don't know 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.760 how long like people are ready to. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:05.800 Make this trophy for us. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:11.360 Now, if you think about it, we will be the 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:12.280 first bowl game. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.960 We will be the start of bowl season. Amen. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:23.720 Amen, Baby, Rivalry rivalry, rivalry, rivalry Week Comes, Early Comes Early. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.440 Bull season is starting mid November at the Bust and 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.680 Bowl at Michigan. But those are the college games we're 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.360 going to. Obviously, we will let you guys know about 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.840 the tailgates. We're obviously gonna be repping the boys all 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.800 year long. I do know for sure we are also 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.000 doing a tailgate at the when the Raiders come to town. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.960 Raiders at TIDS. That's gonna be fucking massive. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.200 We're actually gonna partner with them with I got my 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.920 like lisp going on. We're we're going to partner with 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.680 the boys at uh Raider fan Radio, Raider fan Radio. Right, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.400 I didn't want to butcher Fan Raider Radio, Raider fan Radio. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.040 No disrespect boys, big swag, Jeff Swag, Swaggy Jeff Swag, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.600 Shout out the boys. We are going to be doing 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.520 something to where hopefully we have the silver and black, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:08.760 the two tone. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.480 Blue, just everybody. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.680 Maybe there will be a fight, who knows, Yeah, hopefully 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.360 we can only hope that there's a fight or something. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.240 But yeah, our Fault t Our fall schedule is getting 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.360 put together. We are going to Now we're gonna jump 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.440 into our shot out no free shot Out segment of 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.600 the week, our favorite segment of the week, brought to 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.640 you by Busting with the Boys, and then we're gonna 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.840 jump into the Rob Tonyon episode. We interrupt this episode 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.760 to shout out the boys at Duke Cannon, No free 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.440 shoutouts boys. Their deodorant is made for guys to run hot. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.240 I've talked about it at length. The dry ice there. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.400 I don't know how many different formulas they have now, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.880 I think four. 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The scrubber is a travel case. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.359 This shit is next level. Like if you guys use 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.720 a scrunchy, look no further, dude, Cannon's got your back 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:32.679 their case. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.080 It's like a loofa. It's like a traveling loofa. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.359 You got in its little loofa case, dude, and you 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.040 don't have to use your loofa anymore. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:39.360 Now. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.520 I will experiment every now and then I'll rub the 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.520 biggest brick of soap just on my body and like 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.240 the main spots and then I'll take my loof and 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.920 rub it all around. Obviously, travel in the Green Bay 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.320 this week. I will be taking that travel case with 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.760 me because you can use it anywhere. 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I would love to see 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:20.600 if this works. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.720 Go to Target, buy Duke Cannon, and when you're checking out, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.800 just say hey, I got this code busting for fifteen 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.959 percent off and see if that works. If it doesn't, 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.440 just say hey, take that out of my cart. I'll 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.000 just go on Duke Cannon dot com and use the 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.639 code on their website and then obviously check out after that, 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.480 tell them that they hit, tell them to have a 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:37.680 great day and all that stuff. 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.760 But the boys got your back back to the episode. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.120 Now we are diving into our shout out, no free 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.120 shot out segment of the week. BLOSSI would absolutely love 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.720 to start it off. He starts us off fast each 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.600 and every week. Let's fucking hear a Blossy all right. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.480 My shout out, no free shout out of the week 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.919 goes to somebody who accounts for two thousand of the 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.640 forty nine ers off of yards the forty. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.320 Nine ers personal hype man, dude. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.840 All right, somebody who's gonna be crucial to Trey Lance's 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:13.760 development this year, and that is Deebo Samuel. My shoutout, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.119 no free shoutout goes to Deebo Samuel for secure in 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:17.480 the Bag. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.360 That's a round of applause. Can we get some more energy, Jack? 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:22.359 Can we get some energy? 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.280 You always got a shout out when the when the 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.480 boys get paid, dude, Like, obviously, JP's fired up because 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.000 because he's a game cock. Bloss was fired up because 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.840 he's a niner. But we're fired up because he's a 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.639 fucking boy, dude, and he just secured the bag. What 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.760 was it, three year, seventy eight million up to seventy 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.199 eight eighty eight guarantees fifty eight and a half guarantee. Like, 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:47.000 that's fucking awesome, dude, bloss very predictable shout out. We're 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.760 gonna move on to our number two, our whole, our 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:50.600 two hoole slot. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.480 Jack McPherson, what do you got for us? Jack? 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.159 My shout out, no free shout of the week goes 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:01.639 to the post gym endorphin rush, when the dopamine hits 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.560 after you just grinded in the iron paradise and you 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.159 thought you weren't gonna make it, and then you're on 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.680 the drive home and you go, Damn, today's actual gonna 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.080 be a lot better than I thought it was. And 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.200 I don't know something about just leaving the gym after 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.200 you've just that sweat equity has just like been put 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.480 in and it is the beautiful thing to me, and 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.119 I'll never take it for granted ever in my life. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.840 I can't wait to get to the gym later and 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:29.560 just absolutely destroy myself so I can ride home, windows down, 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.000 good song playing on the radio, just enjoy the rest 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:33.600 of my diggs. 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.760 I know I put in that work, sweat equity. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:37.920 That's fucking good, bro. 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.679 That one fired me up because you're right, like especially 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.840 when you have a hard leg day, it's in the 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.040 middle of that leg day, you're ready to fucking kill yourself. 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.040 What am I doing right now? But let me just 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.480 push through these this last set, these last two sets. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.240 And when you do and you're right whenever you're driving 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.119 home and you're kind of your legs are shaking like 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.440 a dog shined piecies like you're fucking like ready to go. 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.160 You know what I'm saying. Jp you can barely hold 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:03.160 yourself up a little bit. 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.600 Yeah, that was I've never heard that before. That was 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:11.440 good though, shut out my dad, all right. 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.680 My shout out, no free shoutout of the week goes 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.240 to when you're turning left at a red light. All right, 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.280 I guess it's a green light about to turn red whatever, 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:26.919 and somebody's somebody is crossing the street and you're waiting 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.240 for them, and then they look up and they see you, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.040 and they give you a light. Jog to get further across, 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.960 to speed it up across the crosswalks, he can go to. 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.159 My shoutout goes to those people that jog across the crosswalks. 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.639 I am one of those people, and it bothers me 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.760 when I'm with people and I jog and they don't 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.800 jog with me. I'm like, yeah, I show some respect, 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:49.040 right the driver. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:50.480 And you're kind of like separated from a little bit 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:51.920 and you're like, okay, you look back. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:53.440 Am I looking super right? 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:53.520 Now? 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.800 Are y'all looking stupid? We know y'all look stupid. Yeah, 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:03.359 that's a good one. Get all right. 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.639 My shout out, no free shout out is gonna go 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.680 to all the fans that buy merch. We just put 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.760 the pocket tea back up and we got a little 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.920 note from h Q that Will's tweet put a little 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:14.800 bump in those sales. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.840 So unfortunately the shout out half the tweet gotta bump 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:19.760 in the sales. 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.240 Gotta bump in the sales. So shout out no free 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:25.320 shout out to the fans and those rider dies on 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:25.960 Will's twitter. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:39.000 Hey, let's go boys. When when do I do that? 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.560 I haven't heard that one. And then everybody comes up, 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.679 all right, we'll do that next time. I appreciate that. 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.439 But the last time we did we did a team break, 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:52.440 I felt like the vibes were fully there. Remember we 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.119 had the shot we were excited about. 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:56.080 Was it? 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.480 Two hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube, and we kind of 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.560 did a cheer and then we broke it down. Oh yeah, 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.440 being number one on the charts and we broke it down. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:11.680 I felt like, you think, so nobody put it on Nobody, 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:12.240 We didn't. 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:13.879 We didn't clip. It wasn't good enough to clip. 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.840 If the energy is high, then it's usually probably good 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.240 enough to clip. But I fuck with what you said. 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.000 So we'll get into that next time. We can do that, 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.840 or you can lead it next time. All right, Uh oh, 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.560 it's me hey, but you're right. Our pocket teaser back. 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.120 Those were the best sellers in twenty twenty one. We 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:36.240 have is it color waves or ways? A lot of 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.560 different color ways, a lot of different color ways, and 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.040 it really is our it's our best selling tea. 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:43.239 It's good to have it back. 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.440 There's been a long legal process that just went into 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.960 this thing. Anheuser Busch. They came after us, came after 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.840 as hard. However, we learned that it was just somebody 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:53.840 that went rogue in the office. Some new somebody knew 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.200 that went rogue in the office, some inturned somebody knew 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:03.639 on the job out of New York. They don't really understand, right, Yeah, yeah, 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.639 he has been fired since the Grim Reaper Kime and 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.840 got him. But uh, you don't really understand the culture 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.399 that's going on that everybody else from anheuser bush. That 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.640 reach out was like, hey, we'll get this thing figured out, 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.359 We'll get this thing solved. Obviously, Daler and Heart Junior, 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:20.920 let's just give a random shout out to him. I 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.119 don't know if he did much, however, it's fun to 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.199 just shout out Daler and Hart Jr. For all the 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.960 work he does for Budweiser. But our pocket teas are back. 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:33.120 It's a fire shout out. I'm excited about it. And yes, 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.560 so if you're watching this right now, take a moment. 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:36.119 Store it up. 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.000 Oarstool sports dot com forward slash Busting with the Boys. 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.320 That is our merch store. Go buy up all the 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.479 merch we You know, I can confidently say like we're 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.560 we're doing well, We're doing well. Yeah, we're number one. 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:50.520 Yeah I. 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.959 Wanted to be homele but JP like fires me up 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.640 at times, like we're number one, we have the best 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:02.320 merchandise bar none. H my shout out, no free shout out. 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.840 Change up the paste a little bit. Ever since I've 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:13.320 gotten these new teeth, obviously, my mouth is a lot fuller, 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:17.480 no pause, so there's a lot less space that go 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.239 on in between my teeth. The boy, as we all know, 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.520 I've been on I've been on tape plenty of times. 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:25.200 People love to tweet pictures. 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.720 Of me eating. Uh, there's videos of me eating ordering food. 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.320 However, you guys want to fucking make fun of me 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.360 and drag me down and make me feel bad about. 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.880 Myself to where I have to get therapy. I do eat. 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.320 The boy loves to eat, and I get a lot 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.720 of stuff in my teeth. Now with that, I have 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.000 a new love for toothpicks. My shot out, no free 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.840 shot out of the week is gonna go to toothpicks, because 0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.520 if you looked at my mouth before, I have small teeth. 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.040 I have like smaller teeth that I replaced the top 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:58.280 eight with obviously bigger, gorgeous pearly whites. 0:25:59.040 --> 0:25:59.879 My wisdom teeth. 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:01.760 I've had a mouth to where I don't have to 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.040 take out my wisdom teeth, so I have the molars 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:05.480 and the wisdom teeth back in the back, so I 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.960 get a lot of food back there, and I legitimately 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.520 enjoy having teeth caught. 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:12.760 In my food. 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:17.600 Back there my tongue, do you guys, you guys ever 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.120 noticed you guys ever noticed me like if I'm whether 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.960 I'm thinking or focus or something like, my tongue is 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:22.919 always kind of like working. 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:24.920 So like when I have. 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.879 Sean Watson got six games, my tongue is always working. 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.680 So whenever I get teeth, I'm literally battling my teeth 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.600 with my tongue all the time. I always have to 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.879 ask the waiter, the waitress, hey, you guys have toothpicks, 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.560 Like I always go back in the pantry and enjoy. 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.000 Like you know how, by the way, shut out the 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:47.919 Anis pot. If you haven't watched, go watch the Anis 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:49.600 podcast that I did with Nick and KB. 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:50.560 That was hilarious. 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:55.480 But you know how Nick explains the toothpick or the 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.480 Q tips the Q tips in his ears, I like, 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:01.000 it's like sex for him, dude, I enjoy digging in 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.280 with a uh with a toothpick. 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:04.720 I'm getting que tips toothpick. 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.640 So my shout out, no for shotout goes to goes 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:14.359 to toothpicks. Yeah, that's a good pool. That's a good pool. 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.320 Those are usually at restaurants. As a matter of fact, 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.160 I think I need to go on Amazon and check 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:18.520 that out. 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:20.080 Dude. 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.959 I have another free shot out that I thought about doing. 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.560 I'll save it just because we got to get into this. 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.280 Uh. Rob Tonyan episode. The Rob Tonyan episode was great. Rob. 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:29.960 He's a friend of the show, he's a boy, he's 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.159 all time. We had him on last year with myself 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.240 and George Kittle. That episode was a lot of fun. 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.399 We talked a lot about the mental side. George and 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.440 Rob are very much in tune with like awareness of 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:45.160 the mental side, mental performance, getting being optimal every day. 0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:50.399 Rob went through a year last year not having the 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.560 most receptions in the world. To start off the year, 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.120 there's a lot of articles being written about US production. 0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.400 He starts to uptick and then he tears his ACL 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.920 and as we all know, following Taylor along his ACL journey, 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.120 that can bring you to like new lows because you're 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.160 like in it, You're you kind of feel alienated from 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:10.520 the team. 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.199 You're rehabbing on your own all the time. You have 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.320 a lot of ebbs and flows. 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.639 Blossy, who's torn his knee, can probably talk and attest 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.840 to that as well, working through the rehab of that 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.000 whole thing, and so he talks a lot about his 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:30.640 mental journey, struggles, successes with tearing, his acl his new 0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.720 perspective on thinking, Like what was he talking about, Like 0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.640 he's glad it happened because it kind of he was 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.560 able to step back and kind of look at it 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.640 from like a zoomed out lens. He talks a lot 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.680 about how that that mental side went into He was 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.960 a restricted free agent last year who went into a 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.560 contract year, so that obviously sucks for anybody going through 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.040 an injury going into their contract year. So he talks 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.480 a little bit about the negotiation side with the Packers. 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.240 He talks about getting over the humping Green Bay like 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.920 things that he saw from a different lens, being somebody 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.360 who is out on ir seeing the boys sing the 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.280 locker room every day, seeing the boys going into the playoffs. 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.280 From it, it's like a different perspective when you're injured 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.680 and looking at it from the outside and you're not 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.160 in it. You're not in the box anymore of that grind. 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.000 So he talks about what he thinks there. We have 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.280 some fun with Aaron Rodgers' new tattoo. Our tear talk 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.720 is Sandwiches phenomenal tear talk that I think you guys 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.560 will enjoy and I will. I do want to say, Jack, 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.800 you were shouting out that local spot earlier, but I 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.920 want to I want to say, if I did it again, 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.840 Penn Station would make its way in. I've had pen 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.520 Station twice. Now there's one over in like the Bellevue 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:48.880 area of town, and Penn Station is fire. I've only 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.280 had it twice, so I won't go into like claiming 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.600 it there, but I would definitely. Now that I've had it, 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.920 I have a new respect for Penn Station, so so 0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.840 pat shut out Penn Station though free shoutouts. Now enjoy 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.840 the episode with robbed Tonyon from the Green Bay Packers. 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.880 Big hugs, tiny kisses. Are you excited to be back 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.959 on the bus. I'm so excited. Why are you all 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.719 of a sudden talking a little bit comber and quieter. 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.040 You're just kind of fired out with the vice before 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:16.560 we started the pot And. 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.680 Now I gotta lock in because now I'm thinking about 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.400 the sandwiches because I haven't even you got. 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:23.760 Time that we'll bring it back up in it. But 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.600 I'm really to where it's like a conversation. Yeah no, no, 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:31.160 but I'm really thinking now because I don't know, the 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.160 good thing Jack does is Jack in the back. He 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.040 will pull up all the night. He will pull up 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.400 the national chain so we'll be able to see him. Yeah, 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.000 you won't just have to think. You won't just have 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:48.120 to go off the top. Yeah, Jack from the back legs. 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.160 I just learned about that when I moved here. 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.920 Bro, I'm telling you, people are spreading the good word. 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.240 I know, ten station two, Okay, I'm back. 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.400 All right, Well let's get into like let's talk about, 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.920 you know, all the good stuff that's catching up with you, Like, 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:03.800 what's new with you? 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.920 You just to you tore your acl How's everything going? 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:06.600 How you feeling? 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.280 He said, let's talk about everything good, no rehab. So 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.040 I'm about eight months out, Yeah, from surgery. I feel great. 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:15.760 Do you feel great? 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:21.160 Like I actually feel like great, Like. 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.320 Like you hear all the horror stories and you're thinking. 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.640 Honestly, you know, you hear the Adrian Peterson story and 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:29.400 then you hear like what he like, what the problems 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.440 were after that? Like he had the great season, but 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.680 after that he had like multiple surgeries. You know, the 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.880 career kind of died out from there because you know, 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.240 he went for the rushing title and stuff like that. 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.200 And then like you said, you hear the horror stories, 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.240 so you hear both. But for me, it was honestly 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:48.240 just sticking with my process and worrying about like me 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.200 and bettering myself physically, mentally, spiritually all that, and it 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.480 kind of helped me on and off the field, like 0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.280 with everything across the board, like truly like becoming like 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.640 not only a better football player from it, but like 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.680 a better man. Like I got to step back from 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.560 football like during this time, uh kind of just see 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:13.920 how my value was missed at certain aspects and like 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.840 where I could be better at and on and off 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.920 the field, Like I'll keep probably saying that because I 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.800 really got to I masked a lot of things with football, 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.080 Like I was really like hurting in a lot of 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:30.000 areas mentally and whatever. But like to talk about I mean, 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.040 just like you know, off the field, just you know, 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:36.040 like internally, like you know, you think you're you're a 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.000 lot more you know, worthy of certain things than you 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:40.880 are at the time, but like everything comes with like 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:45.760 divine timing, and I truly believe in that, like you know, 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:50.200 whether it's a contract or stats or you know, you know, 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.880 a marriage or whatever you think it is like a 0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.960 big house, you know, whatever you think anyone's goals are 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.920 or you know, your imagination and like desires, like everything 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:03.640 is gonna come with divine time and if you just 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.040 like worry about the now in the present, And it 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:11.600 really made me present in which like I don't even 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.280 know how to explain it, but I really got to 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.840 just take football out of the equation for a little bit, yeah, 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:21.920 and really just live a life where I had to face. 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.840 Out of football reality. And I feel like that's what 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:26.440 I needed. 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.240 And now I didn't At the time, You're like, yeah, 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.080 you know, why is this happening whatever, But it really 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.400 took me like a shorter than I expected to realize 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.520 that this is for a reason. You got to see 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.680 a lot of things happen with football, like you know, 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:45.240 DeVante leaving. You got to see you know, our defensive 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.640 guys get paid, and it's like it's just not my 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.760 time yet. You know, if I keep, you know, worrying 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.280 about me bettering myself on the field off the field, 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:53.720 that stuff's gonna come. 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:54.880 And I just didn't. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.080 I was getting ahead of myself a little bit, and 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:58.920 I did such a good job in twenty twenty with 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.200 living in the present, had great season whatever, and then 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.880 you get into twenty twenty one, and you know, maybe 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.840 I was a little ahead of myself now that I 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:11.360 look back on it, but I really believe that everything 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:16.040 truly happens for a reason, and something's so simple for me, 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.239 Like it wasn't like a gruesome like you know, it 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.600 was just a plain acl and I just got to 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.319 really just you know, it is like a you know, 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.080 a season ending, but you know you come back stronger 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.520 from it, like across the board, like I said, mentally, physically, spiritually. 0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.000 The rest of your body's getting healed up too. 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.120 Right, And I, like I said, I got to really 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.320 just take football out of the equation and just start 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.319 from like ground zero. 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.319 So correct me if I'm wrong. But like, listen to 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.040 you and you talk about like getting ahead of yourself. 0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.560 Obviously you came out of twenty twenty you're like we 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.120 were obviously last year we're talking about you being a 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:48.840 Pro Bowl snub, Like you had a hell of a 0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:50.959 year and you're going to twenty twenty one. You signed 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.479 a restricted you were a restricted free agent. 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.320 Yeah, so you get signed to a one year tender. 0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.000 So an athlete. It's a hungry athlete competitor's mind. Yeah, 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.919 it's like it's bag year, it's contract here and everything else. Right, 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.279 you get to where you tear your knee and everything else. 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.520 It seems like, uh, you get when you talked about 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.759 Davante and then guys on the defense getting paid, it 0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.640 seems like as all of us do, every athlete, we 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:16.200 all do this. 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:16.560 Right. 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.440 You sit there and you get caught up comparing yourself 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.720 to everybody else, like life, looking at everybody else's pocket, 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.799 to where you're like, this is what's gonna be. This 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.399 was supposed to be my ear, to where you kind 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.320 of get angry. Yeah, so you were kind of saying 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.400 that that process didn't last really long for you to 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:30.839 kind of check yourself in your life. 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:31.279 It was. 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.880 It wasn't more so like quote unquote like pocket watching 0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.080 for me. It was more so like, you know, I 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.160 come and I had a great season twenty twenty. You know, 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:41.560 twelve touchdowns lead the league. 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.120 You know, you like to you like seeing as the 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.840 dude who has a shitload of fun on the field. 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.920 Yeah, and I was, But then like I wasn't at 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:50.920 the beginning of the year because you know, like you know, 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.200 our tackles were down. You know, I'm doing a lot 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.719 of blocking and chipping, which is fine, you know, that's football, 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.680 but you know, like I'm I wasn't being you know, 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.640 you how I was the last year and you know, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.680 we're winning games, so I don't care, like, you know, 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.960 like my ego wasn't hurting, you know, via that it 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.040 was more so I'm like, you know, all these guys 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.279 are keep like progressing, and then like you know, my 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.440 quote unquote like production on the you know field wasn't there, 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.200 but like I'm becoming a better block and becoming a 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.960 better football player. But then you hear like outside noises 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:27.600 like oh, he's like going down, He's going down. Yeah, 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.719 and then you know, and then I hit like a 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.040 three game stretch like before my injury where I started 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.440 taking off again. I'm like, oh, hell yeah, like I'm 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:39.560 really turning up right now right, And then that happened. 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.160 So that's why I was like more like damn, I 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.080 was just hitting, like I was just getting over that 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:49.000 like pump of like down on myself, and then I 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.200 started going and then I like hit another thing. So 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:52.600 that's why I was like I feel like I was 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.160 just getting a little ahead of myself. But then it 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.239 just reminded me that I really have to just do 0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:01.719 this for myself. You know, you're not gonna like the 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:07.040 validation from an outside external source is so like fake. 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.040 You know, I score, I led the league or tiede 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.239 trave with you know, eleven twelve touchdowns twenty twenty. You 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:18.080 know they're gonna rate me the nineteenth best tight end 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.000 so like for a walk, right yeah, And that's what 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.800 I'm saying, is like you can't do stuff for external 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.880 sources or proving external people wrong. It's like I'm just 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.360 gonna continue to focus on me, my growth, my process, 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:34.839 and take care of my family. 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.160 Right because that's all to me what I want to do. 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:40.600 I don't want to be a superstar, Like I can't 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.000 go out because like there's cameras all on me, Like 0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:44.640 that's not the life I want to live. 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.040 I really just want to Like. 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.840 Do I want to be that type of person on 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.560 the field, Hell yeah, But like also I just want 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.239 to take care of my family and live that type 0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:58.040 of life and just. 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.200 Be like isn't it hard to not get caught up 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:02.520 in some of that though? When it is when you 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.040 had external you see articles, and then when you get 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.400 in the season, it's like when you're in the off season, 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.000 you realize, like you. 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.280 Whether you're take a vacation. 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.440 Right after the season, you get back in your process 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.120 of training and you look back at the season, you 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.080 realize how small things were, but how big they were 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.239 in your mind at the time because they're in football season. Conscious, Yeah, 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:26.440 the NFL is like the hottest show on TV for 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:27.719 an extended period of time. 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.480 Like the NFL is everything to some people. 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.600 So it's and then when you're like you're playing well 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.640 and whether or not you're looking for articles on yourself 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.000 or whatnot, Like it's hard to not see a lot 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.200 of things, especially being on social media. You might not 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:43.719 even be looking for it, but you'll be tagged in 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.799 some bullshit or just tagged and stuff, and you might 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.480 go down a wormhole for a second. But it's hard 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.360 not to get caught up sometimes in that fast lane. 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.720 That's just like everyone has an ego, like everyone you 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.480 you know, you can even if someone's like not an 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.920 egotistical person or not ego driven, like everyone has an ego, 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.080 And sometimes it's just subconsciously getting hit and you don't 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.120 even know until like there's like an out like an 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:13.000 outburst or something like big dramatic happens. But yeah, I 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.160 agree with you when you say that, like things just 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.279 come to you and that comes with the job though, 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:22.400 Like like NFL football player, like you're constantly like every Sunday, 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.880 it's that's everything to everyone, Like yeah, ninety percent of 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.040 the people are watching football on Sundays, right, I mean. 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.000 Our lives are revolved around us. 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.200 Right, you know what I mean, like fantasy football, Like 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:34.880 you know, like you're saying like you don't want to 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.280 come across people, but it's like you like it's funny 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.399 because you know, you get like those tweets that you're 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.520 like you suck one catch for five yards. It's like, dude, 0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:47.400 I ran three routes and Devonte had twenty two catches 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.839 for two hundred yards and four touchdowns, like and we won. 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:51.480 Yeah, Like I don't care. 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.400 I'm gonna be one of those guys on his Twitter 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.280 this year like come on, man, one catch five yards? Yeah, 0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.879 but go ahead and finish. Gohe finish because I just thought. 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:01.680 I just think. 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:09.040 Overall, like last season, like I truly like grew so 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:13.839 much and like I'm thankful that that happened. I truly am, 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.960 because if I go the whole season being healthy and 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.120 all that happens, and I'm up for a big contract, 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:24.120 am I even in Green Bay, you never know, And 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:28.279 like with a good quarterback a great defense, like those 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.759 are the things that like I want on a team, 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.600 like in a super Bowl team, like you have a 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.480 one of the best, if not the best quarterback of 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.200 all time as your quarterback, and we have a bunch 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.400 of people coming back on defense and then some and 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.480 then we don't have a number one receiver anymore. 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:45.720 Like that's what I want. 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.600 That's the pressure I want to put on myself because 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.600 I want to be that guy. And I grew so 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.040 much and like even mentally, like I'm not scared to 0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.480 come back, like I'm almost and I'm not like over 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.479 eager to come back. I'm just like smiling internally because 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.320 I'm like, you know, some people forgot. 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.200 Talk too about I mean, but and not even in 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.120 when he said that I didn't know what he was 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:15.040 gonna say. 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.719 And not even in like a you know, That's why 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.360 I don't like come like, I don't like talk like 0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.600 off field, I don't do social media as much like 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.960 I don't like like this is all I Like, I'll 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.600 come on and like hang with you guys and do 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.040 all this stuff. But I'm not gonna come on and 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.960 like talk this that because that's not who I'm about. 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.120 Like I really just like go on the field, like 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:35.960 you said, like I have fun on the field and 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.799 don't talk shit off the field. I'll like talk shit 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.239 on the field and have fun because that's like the 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.759 whole point of a competitive nature. Like right, Like I'm 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.359 super competitive. I love having a good time. Like shit 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.080 talking back and forth is not personal. That's like part 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:51.960 of the game, right, And that's why I know a 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.839 lot of these guys off the field and it's not 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.279 like a like a buddy buddy thing, but like on 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.960 the field, like people are really trying to feed their 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.640 kids and you know, put a roof over people's heads 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.520 like this is all they have, Like all my marbles 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.560 are in this basket, Like this is what I have, 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:09.880 Like this is how I want to take care of 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:14.280 my family, my future family, like generations, Like I'm putting 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.719 all my marbles into this so for me, like I'm 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.400 gonna have like the best time doing it, like on 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.319 the field, and just like take care of business off 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.560 the field, like quietly and to myself, but like on 0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.440 the field, like I'm definitely gonna show I'm having a 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.960 good time. This is like I always laugh because like 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.200 when I score a touchdown or like I'm wilding on 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.160 the field. The first thing I think about is like 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.320 all my high school boys watching, oh for real, yeah, 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.000 like they're like you know, like even in college, like 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.040 they were like, you know, what are you gonna do 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:43.880 in the end zone. I'm like, you tell me, Like 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.160 you guys are watching like this is this is USA, 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.560 and it's fun because like I'm really like out there, 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.120 like like not only for myself, like you know, wilding 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.520 for the boys, but uh like yeah, for the family, 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.960 like like my mom is like laughing and stuff, like 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:00.440 my dad's you know, so proud. 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:04.360 Like enjoy playing the game, I really do, but enjoy 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.040 the fact that you get to like this is yeah. 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.400 And I don't even like the like I don't like 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.359 the like when people say like this guy plays for 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.799 this reason, Like I really just enjoy playing for my 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:21.360 family's experience too, Like my dad, like this dude's a 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.880 you know, a sports fan growing up, has lived on 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.319 the same street his whole life. He brought you know, 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.920 a house two houses up from his parents, and that's 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.160 the house I grew up in. Like he's gone to 0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:35.040 the same job since he's been sixteen years old, like 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.799 the company, Like he's been grinding, you know for forty 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.000 fifty years at the same wake up five point thirty, 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.400 go to work, come right back, like the same path, 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:49.240 and for me to be able to be a spark 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.200 or like a different light or like a getaway for him, 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.160 like he can just come up and go to all 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.279 my games. He like doesn't miss games cause like but 0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.359 that's just like I'm trying not work him. Yeah, I'm 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.960 not trying to outwork anyone in the league. I know 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.040 everyone's working hard, but no one's working hard like I 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.600 know really who's working hard. And that's like my dad. 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.319 I'm really trying to out work that man and make 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.399 like him believe like like that dude works. Like I'm 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.640 really trying to outwork my dad more than anything, because 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.160 he's done the same thing every day, one way, come 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:23.440 right back, the same. 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.040 Street, wake up. He's well, he's literally has woke up. 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.200 On the same street his whole life and gone to 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:34.200 the same business, same same shop and come right back home, 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.760 same time every day for fifty something years. 0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.120 What a legend, dude. We need to get those hoodies. 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.560 By the way, Yeah, thanks for the reminder. I do 0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.600 want to ask, like I really enjoy your perspective everybody 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.439 who listened to the first episode and for everybody tune 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.239 in and go listen to George kittle ropt on you. 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:48.680 Last year. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.000 We said on the bus you have a You're definitely 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.160 somebody who like works on your mental side a lot. 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.520 And so I'm gonna start with this question because I 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.440 want to come back to the to uh like that 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.319 mental side of working in our stuff and developing and 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.000 you you you're thankful for what happened this past year, 0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:05.600 and I kind of want to talk about how you 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.040 were speaking on last year's pod, But what I wanted 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.399 to say is like I really enjoy listening to your 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:12.399 perspective on it all. 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:13.960 Like you kind of zoom out and take like a 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:15.280 zoomed out approach. 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.520 When things do happen to you or why you do it, 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.080 and talk about your dad and your friends and the 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.600 fun you have, but you can also feel the chip 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.279 that you kind of keep on your shoulder, Like like 0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.800 I see it like looking at you, you kind of feel 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.520 like that energy of like when you say, like mother, 0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.279 like people forgot you can feel that chip. Where do 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.440 you feel like you got that chip outside of obviously 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.719 seeing your seeing your dad work as you grew up. 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.960 Do you feel like it comes from your undrafted background? 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.040 Like where do you feel like you've developed this this 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.680 ship that you also speak with while having the perspective 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:46.200 on everything. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.200 I just got the chills, by the way. 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:54.279 I just think, to be honest, I've just always kind 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:59.479 of had it by coming from a small school under 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.280 recruited as a quarterback in high school. 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.120 I did see you went to Indiana State. 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.920 You know, and then I go to Indiana State, you 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.960 know kind of just did you know the coach changed 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:11.799 like right after Like I went to Indiana State for 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.960 this coach, Trent Miles, Like like he was like a 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.960 you know, a MF for like tough, and that's how 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.040 my dad was and that's like the type of coach 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:20.839 I like, you. 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.959 Need to be like dominated chill. 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.759 But I just but I just think I just like 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:32.439 being held accountable, like I love when but like out 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.719 of like out of love and like winning not just 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:39.880 because like the coach has an ego or like just 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.040 because he wants to like be little soone. No, he's 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:43.759 like I'm trying to make a man out of you. 0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:49.040 Like that's what I got, And like, you know, I 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.400 didn't like really do it for like the name on 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.000 my back per se. But like you know, we were 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.319 a you know, a German immigrant family. We came in 0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.480 and we just started that fam like the family business. 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.359 You know, like it was just like whatever you want 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.759 or whatever you picture, what do you perceive your life 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.880 to be, Like, you gotta go do it. So like 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:10.759 that's kind of where the chip came for me. Is 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.080 like I kept being like you know, under recruited. Then 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.040 I go to Indiana State, you know, the coach change, 0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.719 the new coaching staff comes in. You know, I was 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.000 a backup quarterback. The start went down. I played a 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:25.080 little bit. I was I was not ready for my 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.960 opportunity because I was comparing I'm like I should be 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:31.600 starting YadA YadA. Started goes down. I come in. I'm 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.520 not ready. So then they're like, you know he's coming back, 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.960 the older guy's coming back after injury, and I'm like 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.719 I'm like done with the quarterback. I just want to 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.200 play football. I'm like sick of like all like the 0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:48.360 nuances of like you know, the politics and all that. 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.200 I'm like, just put me at a receiver and let me 0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:51.080 just go play football. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.239 And then I go, you know, set the records at 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.400 receiver for you know, the three years I played receiver, 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.919 you know, most touchdowns in a season, most touchdowns, career, 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.880 second yards, second to most yards whatever. 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:03.920 And then you know, you. 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.680 Go into the draft process and then it's like I'm 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.120 continuing to grow. I'm a white dude. I'm like, I'm 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.160 gonna go play tight end. Like, let's be honest, like 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.160 everyone's trying to play receiver. 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:14.160 In the end. 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.000 That awareness, you gotta have that awareness. 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.840 But like everyone's trying to play receiver in the NFL, 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.520 I mean, and the athleticism didn't lack. You know, I 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.080 was running a four to four at two twenty five, 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.440 six foot four, like I built that I built, you know, 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:28.080 I was built for it and stuff like that. But 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.839 like coming out of Indiana State, like you're not gonna 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:35.080 get that opportunity, but I knew that, you know, I 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.920 wanted to play, like I want to play football, Like 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.799 I love the everything that comes with football. So like 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.920 the blocking aspect was just gonna be effort. I can 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:49.600 go run routes on safeties and linebackers all day whatever. 0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.040 But like a lot of the time it was just 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.520 like do you have the will and want to like 0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:58.799 contact and physical and I'm like yeah. Like so when 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.480 that process was going on, you know, I thought I 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.959 was gonna get you know, drafted in the later rounds 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:06.120 we all did. 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.040 Brother, yeah, but like you know, like the teams that 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.359 I was like seventh, but like you go. 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:14.120 To like all these like combines and protece, Like I 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.200 went to the north I did my prote at Northwestern 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:19.839 and like killed it, like better than the Northwestern guys. Yeah, 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.640 and then you know, then you go into the draft 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.560 and you see all these guys go off and YadA YadA, yeah, 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:30.239 and then you go Then I go to Detroit undrafted 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.520 and they had a fourth round pick. They had a 0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.359 couple of free agents here and there there they were 0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:37.040 bringing in, and I was getting like two reps at practice. 0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:40.200 But then I'd like when inside run would come, I 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:41.560 would go down to the one on once and then 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:45.080 just like tear it up, like go down the receivers 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.760 and just tear up the DBS, you know, the second 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:52.040 round draft pick like whatever, and. 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:53.320 This is in training camp of your rookie year week. 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.400 In Detroit, and then like you know, everyone was like 0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:58.319 kind of like banged up. So then like you know, 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.160 I was doing seven. I was Stafford and like I'm 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.799 doing well, like and I'd get in the games, like 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:06.880 I had never blocked anyone with my hand in the 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.759 dirt until a preseason game, like not even in practice, 0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.640 like I was like holding the pad and whatever, and 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.600 then they would just throw my ass in the fucking game. 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:19.000 And I was like assholes, Yeah, but I And then 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.560 they told me that, you know, they told me right 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.319 from the beginning, like the GM brought me in said 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.319 from the beginning, you're not gonna make the fifty three. 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.080 You're gonna be our practice squad tight end. We're just 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:33.680 gonna like develop you. Cuts came, they told me the 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.560 same thing, coming tomorrow, sign your practice squad contract. 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.680 I come in. They even they even had me pick 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:40.240 my number. 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.440 I go up there and they're like, hey, we don't 0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:45.640 have any more practice squad spots for you, no way, 0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.919 like they really like I even picked my number eighty four. 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:55.480 I remember, Oh, they kept me in a room for 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:59.200 like an hour before they no, no, no, they were 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.400 making sure I didn't sign anywhere else. So then I 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.359 game bro. So then I come out and they whatever ship. 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:08.000 I packed my locker, I packed my car up, drove 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.000 right to Chicago and hung out with my friends, ate 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.160 a bunch of Popeyes, and just like I remember that, 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:13.840 I like remember I just like went to my like 0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:17.719 college buddy's house, and I just like decompressed, and I 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.759 was just like I really just like understood like the 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:24.400 NFL is like a business and not a fucking game, 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.200 like no one gives a fuck. And then I went 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.960 on a bunch of like, uh workouts, like I was 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.400 a workout warrior. That's how I met my boy Skit 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:36.440 ski Elis. Like we were we were like we're the 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:41.680 two We're the two boys like that were like, you know, cold. 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.440 New Orleans, you get the workouts together. 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.360 Yeah yeah, And you know I was going and everyone said, like, 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:52.000 you know, off season, once the next off season comes, 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.560 like once the next off season comes, like we want 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.040 to sign new to a futures And so I just 0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.719 kept going on workouts, kept going on workouts, and uh 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:01.600 then eventually in like December. 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:05.560 That's where went to the Green Bay workout, killed it. 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.560 I went to the players lounge like took a nap 0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.879 and I woke up and like I like slept past 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.479 my flight like back home, like. 0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:18.040 No one came and got me. Yeah. 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:19.880 So then I come in and I'm like, hey, like, 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.160 is anyone gonna like take me to the airport? Like 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:25.920 I didn't know, And they're like, oh no, we're signing 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.560 you with the practice squad. I'm like, also, no one's 0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:30.919 gonna tell me, like when I just sitting here, just. 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.440 Like jumped half of the scout right in front of you, right. 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:38.759 And I was just like chilling. But yeah, and then 0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:40.800 that was like the rest is history, Like you finished 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.520 up that, you finished out the season. Yeah, it was 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:47.359 like four weeks. They did end up not making the playoffs. Well, 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.040 we end up not making the playoffs. It was December, 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:51.600 so I would say like four weeks I was on 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:55.080 practice squad and it was like so lame. I was like, 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.399 you really just practiced the whole week and then don't 0:52:58.440 --> 0:52:59.320 go play in the games. 0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:01.920 I'm like, I'm never doing this again. You didn't know 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.040 that about practice squad? No. 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.080 I just was like I was like, like, you know, 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.040 I thought. I was been like happy, like hey man, 0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:09.040 like I'm a part of the team. I was like, no, 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:10.759 I want to be playing in the game. Oh, bro, 0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:12.759 practice squad is brutal and. 0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:14.799 I only did it for four weeks. Yeah, how old 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.680 or what year was this when you came into the 0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:17.279 league rookie? 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.040 That was like later that year? Was that two thousand 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.880 and seventeen, I believe? 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.200 So what were they at ten guys on the practice 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.840 squad at that point? Yeah, bro, So my rookie ear, 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:29.359 I think was the last year for it. We had 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.000 eight on our practice squad at Washington and I had 0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:34.640 to do linebacker, tight end. 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.800 Full back just the entire day. Like I hated. 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.400 I hated my rookie year. As far as being on 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.839 practice squad, it was brutal. I'll go home and play 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.040 this Grand Theft out of online and then dread waking 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:48.879 up the next day. And then on Saturday they would 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:50.920 have the practice squad guys come in at six in 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.920 the morning to do a workout. I'm talking like a 0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:56.680 grindy workout, bro. So that way, you know, not obviously 0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.080 you got like the next few days off, but but 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.360 I think squad it's a. 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.319 Different and I think that's just like going back to 0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.040 the original before I ran out. Sorry, but like the 0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.400 chip is just like I was just always felt like 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:12.960 I was undervalued and appreciated. Like I'm like, and people 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:17.280 don't know slash, don't care what you're really doing behind 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:22.040 the scenes unless it affects them. And I'm like, well, 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.600 I got to make sure that they know, like when 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:26.520 my opportunity, Like like I said in college, I wasn't 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.759 ready for an opportunity, but like when my opportunity comes 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:29.520 this time. 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:30.760 Like I'm gonna be ready. 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.239 Yeah, And that's why the next year I made the 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.040 fifty three, they like kept they cut the full back, 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.480 they kept four tight ends. 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.320 Yeah, and then I was on the team ever since. 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:44.680 Oh that's juicy, bro. 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:49.359 When you say the undervalue underappreciated, do you feel like 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.799 that plays into when you're going through and getting ahead 0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:54.160 of yourself this past year. 0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:55.399 Because I would. 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.560 I think that's when you're when you're the man, uh 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:01.000 coming off of a year again that you had in 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:05.920 twenty twenty, like like and being an undrafted cat, like 0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:08.400 you feel like you've paid your decon, You've built your 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.040 rescume to a point to where it was about the 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.439 you know, you sign the you sign the restricted tender 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:14.120 and stuff like that. 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.240 Yeah, and then you get injured. 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.640 I would assume that negotiating in your the contract and 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.719 all that stuff doesn't play out the way you want. 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:24.120 I'm not talking greed and all that stuff. Pro I'm saying, 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.759 do you feel like that that subconscious in the back 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:28.360 of your mind, if feeling undervalued and under. 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.560 Yeah, and I think that's what. Yeah, that's one hundred 0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:31.440 percent where I think. 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.000 That's where I again like got ahead of myself because 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.200 I was just like, you know, how much more do 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:39.120 I have to prove? 0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.040 But again, they don't have to pay you. I know, man, 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.200 they don't have to which sucks. But like when you 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.239 get it, you you're you're at peace with it. 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:51.000 But yeah, and that's why like even like I just 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.439 think also the chip comes with like never being satisfied, 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:58.480 like and I think that's a good thing. It is, 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:01.520 like I probably won't ever be satisfic because I don't 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:04.760 do it for money, like I really don't. Like again, 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:06.480 like you see me out there, like I really just 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.279 have a good time like being out there. Like I 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.120 think it's so cool that like only a few type 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.400 you know a few types of like men in this 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:21.960 world can get their ass kicked beat up and in 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:26.719 six days do it again for twenty something weeks. Like 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:30.319 that is like psychologically you have to be like borderline 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:31.640 like nuts and. 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.440 Then prepare for it all year round just to have 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:36.000 those same twenty opportunities. 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.480 Right, And I just like really was like it was 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.600 just good to like really sit back and understand, like 0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:45.320 why I'm doing this again instead of getting ahead of 0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:49.400 and being like, you know, like fuck this, like I 0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:50.359 should be doing this. 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:52.520 But I understood the reality of. 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:54.640 It, but I was still like like what the fuck, 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.080 Like why right, Like what else do I have to do? 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:02.479 Like I got there, you know, accidentally lead the league 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.040 in touchdowns at tight end, Like it was a complete accident. 0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.000 Like I wasn't getting game plan to get the football. 0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:11.840 Oh okay, Like I wasn't, you know, I had fifty 0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:16.880 nine targets and fifty two catches like like I wasn't 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.000 getting targeted. It was just like coming to me and 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.480 like and that was the thing, Like, but I was 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.320 busting my ass for the opportunity that I was going 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:28.439 to be ready and you know, and that was the thing. 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:28.880 Is like. 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.440 A lot of the difference in this league is just opportunity. 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.720 And that's what it was so humbling to me. 0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:37.200 It's like. 0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:41.040 It's just not your turn, it's not your time, and 0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.800 that's okay. Like I just, like you were saying, like 0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.640 I really get to step back and just observe, and 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.200 I'm good at that. Like I got better at that now, 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:51.720 Like I feel like it doesn't take an injury for 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.320 me to do that any situation in my life. I 0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.400 can really just like, like dude, I get anxiety before 0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.160 like going out because I just don't like a lot 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.680 of people that I don't know. Yeah, but now I 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.360 get to just step back and be like why do 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:06.160 I feel that way? 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:06.760 Yeah? 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:10.360 Am I nervous about that? Or you know, like just 0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:14.000 changing your perspective on a lot of things and it 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.960 just really, you know, made my mental stronger. And like 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.720 you're saying, just like I get to view and like 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:25.000 control a lot of perspective stuff just by training your 0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.080 mind and going through adversity instead of like hiding from it, 0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.720 like just going right at it. And I think I 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.000 got really good at that. And I thought I was 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.120 good at it before and then like more stuff happened, 0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.520 you know, on and off the field, and I'm just 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:42.520 continuing to grow. And that's why I'm like smiling internally 0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:45.840 because I'm like I can't wait because I don't give 0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:49.960 a fuck anymore. Like I don't like, like you can't 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:54.120 kill what's already dead. Yeah, Like, dude, I've been dead inside, 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:56.600 like I thought, Like I was, like I think I've 0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:58.480 told you this before, Like I thought I was in hell, 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.120 like you know, tearing my thought I was gonna get 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.200 cut by the packers coming back and then having the 0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:07.480 twenty twenty season, I thought I was dead inside then No, 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.200 like like I truly do not give a fuck anymore. 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.920 And that's why I can't wait, as like it's like 0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:15.720 a superhero origin story going on. 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.480 But like you like, but it's good that you have 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:20.520 that because it's hard. 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.320 It's hard to and you you know, like we're we're 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.320 in the locker rooms with all the boys, Like everybody's 0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:26.960 kind of got that about them where they can't like 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:29.920 release their ego from it or separate the front because 0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.560 they're so emotionally attached to it. I would assume that 0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:34.840 you were frustrated probably with your negotiation. 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:37.720 It wasn't even like the negotiation I think I was 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.880 more frustrated with just like the like at the beginning 0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:43.240 of last year, it was just the opportunity, and I 0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:45.920 just like wasn't understanding at the time. 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:51.280 Clearly what like you know, the timing aspect of timing 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:53.480 and how much probably you wrapped up in the identity 0:59:53.480 --> 0:59:54.520 of it, you know what I mean. 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:56.880 You know, like it was like you know, like like 0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:58.800 I wanted to be you know, out there, like you know, 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:00.880 getting a touchdown a game again, and I wanted to 1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:05.560 be like showcasing my talents and like what I've like 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:09.360 worked so hard, like I work on like my like 1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:12.200 craft like so much. I work on my negatives. I work, 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:14.600 I work on my weaknesses, and I just wanted to 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:19.280 show that. But like at the time, my weaknesses like 1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:23.000 were like blocking before that, but I was starting to 1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.080 do good at blocking, but I was getting kind of 1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.200 caught up in the you know. 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:30.120 The fancy football side of it and not fantasy football, 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:31.520 actual fantasy football. 1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:33.320 But like in our head. Yeah, like you get caught up. 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:36.080 But then you like but like I'd feel like, you know, 1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:37.720 I didn't do anything, you know, one catch for seven 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:40.560 yards and you like whatever, You're like, fuck man, I 1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:42.200 turned on the film and I'm like, damn, I'm really 1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:46.840 getting after it, like but I couldn't like at the time, 1:00:46.960 --> 1:00:48.920 like it was just a lot of shit going on, 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:51.720 and like I said, like on and off the field, 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:53.480 like there's just so much shit that I was just 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:57.520 trying to like whatever. And I just like I started 1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:00.400 kind of like reading more into like Kobe Bryant stuff lately, 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:03.840 and like I think we've talked about this, but like 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:05.480 George helped me out with this a while ago. Was 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.720 kind of like your alter ego, just like when you 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:12.080 step on like the football field, like you have an 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:15.120 identity that just like is different, and like all that 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:18.280 stuff is just off. And in twenty twenty I was 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:20.080 so good at it, Like I was so good in 1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:22.840 twenty twenty one, I was just like more like not 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:26.320 like victimizing myself, but more like, fuck, it could. 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.320 Be way better, like YadA YadA, and then. 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:30.560 Started placing yourself on the like I know for me 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:32.360 when I was like playing better or getting into my 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.640 fourth fifth year stuff like that, like you feel like 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:37.800 you've worked so fucking hard right, earn certain respects and 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:40.400 everything else that if I look back on it, like 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:42.600 some you start believing some of your own bullshit in 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:44.480 your head, or like putting my own self on a 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:46.840 certain pedestal. And if I wasn't getting X amount of 1:01:46.880 --> 1:01:49.200 tackles a game, like you're saying with catches, like even 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.440 if I might have played well in a role spot 1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:53.920 or in a role opportunity, I'm not seeing it that 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:56.360 way because I feel like I'm I like, there's some 1:01:56.520 --> 1:01:59.000 dude that I should be getting that wasn't happening for me. 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.200 And my goal is to become a complete football player, 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.640 and that's what was happening, and I wasn't even like 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:08.040 present and realizing it. And that's why, like I got 1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:10.200 to step back and be like, dude, I got better 1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:12.960 at that, and like I did the you know, the 1:02:13.400 --> 1:02:16.920 the X amount of touchdowns in twenty twenty and twenty 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:19.640 twenty one, I was, you know, becoming a like a 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:21.720 good blocker, and like now I got to sit back 1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:25.440 and be like, oh, and now this past eight months 1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:28.640 was just like my mentality getting tested and my pride 1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:32.960 you know, getting tested and all this stuff. So I'm like, oh, like, 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:35.880 you know, the universe is really like trying to make 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.919 me a complete human being. And now that's why I'm saying, 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:41.760 like I don't give a fuck anymore, like about anything, 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:46.560 Like I don't care about external bullshit about anything, Like 1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:49.920 I care about my value in that locker room, and 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:54.520 like my teammates know so, like and if we're trying 1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:55.680 to if we're trying to win a. 1:02:55.640 --> 1:02:58.000 Super Bowl, and they know like what my value is. 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:01.600 Unless when a super and then the like I said, 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:03.600 divine time and will take care of itself and right 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:07.400 that shit will all happen and accolades or whatever will 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:10.880 just come. But at the same time, that's just not 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:14.600 where my career is at currently. Yeah, is it gonna 1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:17.560 get there, Yeah, but that's not where it's at right now. 1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:18.320 And that's okay. 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:22.000 But I'm finally in the driver's seat in my career 1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:25.240 like for the first time ever, and like it feels 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:28.040 so good and the and coming off an injury, like 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:33.160 being like fresh and whatever it is and really getting 1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:35.920 to start from zero. Like that's why I'm so confident 1:03:35.920 --> 1:03:37.960 and comfortable because like I know the work I put in. 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:41.440 I knew where I was, you know, how dead inside 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:43.960 I was. Like that's like I'm like just like ready 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:46.840 to play fubball because like nothing else matters, but like 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:48.440 my like my teammates. 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:52.200 Yeah, now the process the question I was one to 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:54.520 I was wanting to get into earlier when you came 1:03:54.560 --> 1:03:56.560 on last year and we're talking about the mental side 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:59.880 and it's fucking awesome. Yeah, but speak on like how 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:05.320 all how consistently and how it's just the hey is 1:04:05.400 --> 1:04:07.120 never I feel like in the barn with that kind 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:09.760 of stuff, with your mental side and that mental fortitude, 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:13.400 like you say you don't give a fuck or stuffs. 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:16.720 The external stuff's not bothering you. That's that's present, that's 1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:19.040 like current right now. Or do you feel like you've 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:21.240 came up or not came up with but like read 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:24.480 into things or been able to like be mindful enough 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:27.240 to know to kind of ready yourself for the season, 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:29.560 because you know how the season again can get away 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.200 from you, not like get away from you just in 1:04:32.320 --> 1:04:34.640 any respect, but just like you get into the grind 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:36.440 of the season, you feel a little sorry for yourself 1:04:36.440 --> 1:04:39.120 because you're banged up. Not externally feeling sorry for yourself, 1:04:39.120 --> 1:04:40.880 but you just get in the thick of it. You're 1:04:40.880 --> 1:04:42.800 around guys who might complain a little bit more. You 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:45.439 might pop on social media, like how do you feel 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:47.880 like you've grown in that area to make sure and 1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:50.120 not even make sure, but continue to know, like I 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:51.920 have to guard myself from this shit. 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:54.919 Uh one, because I thought I was in control last 1:04:55.000 --> 1:04:58.080 year and I wasn't, And now I like know the difference, 1:04:58.080 --> 1:04:59.960 and like I thought like I was going into life 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:03.360 share with like the right mindset and like you know 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:07.439 what we talked about, but like you have to take 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:10.360 that next step every time, like I know, like like 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:12.400 you're saying, you're gonna hit that point and the next year, 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:15.439 I'm gonna hit another point. Like everything's You're always gonna 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:18.439 be hit with adversities ever every year, and I think 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:20.880 it's just like facing them head on and just like 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:24.240 going into them with like a quote unquote positive mindset, 1:05:24.280 --> 1:05:27.200 but just like more of a growth progressive mindset. 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:28.600 And like you're saying, like with. 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:31.800 Those guys that are like complaining more and instead of 1:05:31.880 --> 1:05:35.560 just like you know, laughing or like just like brushing 1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:38.080 it off, like you know, it's my turn to be 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:41.080 like a leader and like being like, you know, take 1:05:41.320 --> 1:05:44.960 guys along with me instead of just you know, like 1:05:45.120 --> 1:05:47.600 I'm talking about like the teammates and like that's who 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:49.800 I care about right, and I need to bring guys 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:53.560 along with me more that to my mindset and like 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:55.840 my vision and stuff like that, because like you're saying, 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:58.880 you know, people are like you know, like man, fuck today. 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:02.600 Instead of being like laughing or whatever or just like yeah, no, 1:06:02.680 --> 1:06:03.400 I feel you. 1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:07.360 It's more like something say something. 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:10.920 Because like that's your brother, like and instead of just 1:06:10.920 --> 1:06:13.600 like kind of like getting uncomfortable and like oh it 1:06:13.680 --> 1:06:16.840 might be you know, not cool to like also be 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:17.680 like fuck that. 1:06:17.920 --> 1:06:20.280 Put the pads on a Wednesday for this practice or 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:23.080 so like fuck it, like let's get it. 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:25.440 Like, but like we're really trying to compete and like 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:27.800 win a Super Bowl, and like we do have good 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:29.800 leaders on that team. We have a great locker room, 1:06:29.800 --> 1:06:32.480 we have great chemistry. You know, we've been to the 1:06:32.600 --> 1:06:36.240 NFC Championship three times. Like what really, what do we 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:39.800 really need to break through that last like wall to 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:42.520 get to the Super Bowl? And I think it's just 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:49.600 like the consistency of staying ourselves like for a longer 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:52.440 period of time, because like we come out hot, we 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:54.880 you know, we win those close games, YadA YadA, and 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:56.360 then we get like towards the end of the season 1:06:56.360 --> 1:06:59.280 and we're just like, man, fuck this, Like but like 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:05.040 we're thirteen and three fourteen and three football team, Like 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:08.120 that's our identity, Like we're a winning football program. Like 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.400 why do we get like down on ourselves, like as 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:13.600 like time progresses or like the weight of the season 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:16.000 gets on us, Like that's not us. So me like 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:18.360 sitting back and like noticing that last year, like when 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:20.920 I was hurt, I stayed there the whole time, like 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:23.400 rehabiting Green Bay, did my surgery in Green Bay. I 1:07:23.440 --> 1:07:26.120 got to see that. And what's what was hard was 1:07:26.200 --> 1:07:30.240 like we stopped being ourselves later on in the season. 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:34.400 So I think just like the consistency of being ourselves 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:37.600 and like staying true to us for a longer period 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:40.880 of time, I think that is where like is going 1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:42.800 to take the next step. And if I notice that, 1:07:42.920 --> 1:07:46.040 like like it would be a I'm a fool if 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:48.600 I don't like say something or like bring someone with me, 1:07:48.840 --> 1:07:51.960 because a lot of those guys, like our big time 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:54.360 guys and big name guys and leaders of our locker 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:56.920 room that also needs someone to rely on because like 1:07:56.960 --> 1:08:01.040 they're relied upon for a bunch of other people, but 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:04.360 they need someone And like if that's if that's like 1:08:04.440 --> 1:08:07.320 my role like in the locker room is to like 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:11.560 be there for like you know, the the captains of 1:08:11.600 --> 1:08:13.560 the team or the you know, the leaders of the team. 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:16.200 Like and I noticed that, Like that's what I want 1:08:16.200 --> 1:08:19.559 my role to be. Like if you know, those types 1:08:19.600 --> 1:08:21.439 of guys need someone to come to to talk to, 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:24.880 and me to share a positive light on a bad 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:28.120 situation or like the pads on a Wednesday, like I'll 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:31.200 be the positive vibe, Like I'll smile and like, you know, 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:33.760 help that's fine. But like at the end of the day, 1:08:33.800 --> 1:08:35.360 like you also know what I'm gonna do when we 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.000 put the you know, pads on it, when we get 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:40.040 the Sundays like, you know, but off the field, I 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:41.240 can be that person for you. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:43.439 I was gonna ask, how do you see your role 1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:46.519 kind of shifting now that you've kind of established yourself 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:48.680 like as a Green Bay packer and you guys got 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:49.679 a lot of pieces that's. 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:50.439 Been the front thing. 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:53.600 It's just like also just like taking my leadership to 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:59.320 the next level and just being more like just holding 1:08:59.320 --> 1:09:02.920 more people kindle and holding myself more accountable. Like I 1:09:02.960 --> 1:09:04.439 was saying, like towards the end of the season, like 1:09:04.479 --> 1:09:06.640 we just need to. And I'm not saying like you know, 1:09:06.680 --> 1:09:09.519 people are like fucking up or like doing stupid shit. 1:09:09.600 --> 1:09:12.679 I just think that, like it is, it's a long 1:09:12.680 --> 1:09:14.599 grilling season, and up in Green Bay, it's tough. 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:15.639 You know, you got the winner. 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:18.679 It's cold. It's like it just sucks ass, like waking 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:21.599 up in Like, yeah, it's a grind. But like just 1:09:21.640 --> 1:09:23.800 like reminding people that like who they are and what 1:09:23.840 --> 1:09:27.760 they bring to the table. Yeah, like that can only be beneficial. 1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:33.600 I think that just reminding everyone and bringing the longevity 1:09:33.800 --> 1:09:41.280 of like positivity and like leadership and you know, enthusiasm 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:44.360 or whatever. Just kind of just bringing it longer, just 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:46.480 a couple more weeks. 1:09:46.280 --> 1:09:49.080 Right, Well, also think too, like you kind of get that, 1:09:49.439 --> 1:09:51.880 you kind of get to understand that perspective because you 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:55.200 were like in the like say December, like you're sitting there, 1:09:55.240 --> 1:09:56.800 sitting back, you're getting rehabbed and everything else. 1:09:56.840 --> 1:09:57.560 You're kind of seeing it. 1:09:57.640 --> 1:09:59.880 It's you know, you get it, like when you're in 1:10:00.120 --> 1:10:02.639 it's just a fucking grind. Don't even know going Yeah, 1:10:02.640 --> 1:10:04.720 you don't even notice it now that you're going into 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:06.160 it this year. Once you get to that point of 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:09.120 the year, like you know like you're saying it, there's 1:10:09.160 --> 1:10:11.840 there's something that can be whether it's a spark or 1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:14.680 conversation with somebody to be like, hey, like we know 1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:17.800 we're in the fucking gritty part. We've been here three 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.400 different times. Like how how tough is that? Knowing that 1:10:20.439 --> 1:10:23.559 you guys have been ye, this fucking close every year 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:26.960 with Aaron Rodgers and just you got you you know 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:29.879 the way everybody holds lifts up the Green Bay Packers 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:33.120 right once you guys get into that NFC championship. Although 1:10:33.120 --> 1:10:35.519 it's a good feed, it's like what's it gonna take 1:10:35.560 --> 1:10:36.719 to get to the super Bowl? 1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:37.120 Right? 1:10:37.200 --> 1:10:39.760 And that that's the toughest part, And no one wants 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.559 to hear it from a coach like you're in and 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:43.479 you're out and like later on the season, because it's 1:10:43.520 --> 1:10:47.360 easy for a coach to say it like hey, guys, 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.120 like we gotta do this and we gotta do this, 1:10:49.240 --> 1:10:51.639 Like well, you're not in the like you're a part 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:54.479 of it, but you're not like in it. So it's 1:10:54.560 --> 1:10:56.360 like for me, like you said, I got to sit 1:10:56.479 --> 1:11:00.919 back and like be like in the coaches like situation 1:11:01.040 --> 1:11:03.519 where like I'm just seeing everything develop and you. 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:05.360 Can kind of see how coaches might be moving that way. 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:07.000 It's like I can see why they're trying to do 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:07.360 it like. 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:09.880 This right and just kind of. 1:11:11.400 --> 1:11:14.360 You see, that's where it comes in for the player ownership, 1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:16.000 where the player ownership. 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:17.400 The best teams are player less exactly. 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:19.400 Yeah, and like those are the times, like those are 1:11:19.400 --> 1:11:21.519 the times of the year where coaches can do as 1:11:21.600 --> 1:11:23.439 much as they can. But if like the players aren't 1:11:23.479 --> 1:11:25.720 holding up this, aren't holding the standard or holding the 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:28.599 front line and your best players and stuff, that's where 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:30.439 it gets dicey at the end of the year. I 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:32.040 think that's where you guys are at, but like you're 1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:34.080 probably seeing it from that bird's eye view or the coach, 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:35.479 Like I see why he's being like that, but I 1:11:35.479 --> 1:11:37.920 also see like why he's not gonna motivate this player 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:39.679 because you're this long in the year and the player 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:41.280 don't really care to hear it. But if a player 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:44.160 were to say some shit right here, then it's a different. 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:48.000 Lovely Yeah, I love dude, And that's like the because like, 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:50.439 no one on our team is sensitive when we talk 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:51.000 to each other. 1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:52.440 But I just don't think. 1:11:54.680 --> 1:11:57.000 Enough, Like I think this is across the league and 1:11:57.040 --> 1:12:02.040 not enough players like talk and like motivate each other 1:12:02.120 --> 1:12:04.080 because they're like worried about their you know, their own 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:06.920 process or their for themselves and stuff like that. And 1:12:07.560 --> 1:12:10.479 we were such a close you know, nick group up 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:12.240 there because there's nothing else to do but to hang 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:16.560 out with each other. So I think that just reiterating 1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:20.559 and continuing that like longer into the season, like because 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:23.479 everyone's hanging out and like happy, like you know, it's summer, 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:27.160 it's falling Lambeau and then it's like November and Lambeau 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:30.559 and that's that's like no, like lambeau Field, and then 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:32.320 it gets you know, snow, and then the snow games 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:35.479 are fun. But then it's like playoffs and like there's 1:12:35.520 --> 1:12:39.600 six teams left, four teams left, and we're just like 1:12:39.640 --> 1:12:41.920 the only ones practicing. It's like a lot of walkthroughs 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:45.519 and it's just monotonous, and it's like we need to 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:49.559 like that's the time to take off, right right right, 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:52.360 that's not the time to like plateau out. That's the 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:56.920 time to hit another gear and like go and and 1:12:57.120 --> 1:12:58.519 a lot of guys do a great job of it. 1:12:58.600 --> 1:13:02.120 I'm not talking and you know negative about any means. 1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:05.760 I just think that what it how close we've been 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:07.559 and like the same thing kind of happens. 1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:11.800 It's like now's the time to like right now or never? 1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:13.800 Like you know, I mean that like the results have 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:15.519 already happened, you know what I mean. It's not like 1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:18.679 you're saying this and it's like this is what we've 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:21.320 done wrong and we're shitty at this. It's results have 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:24.000 happened and you've made it certain, You've made it certain 1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:25.519 lengths each year, it's. 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:26.400 Like what are we looking at? 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:28.800 Because you have to be able to self evaluate, right, 1:13:28.960 --> 1:13:30.960 You're just giving a perspective on like you know, here's 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:32.679 some things I think going into next year. 1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:34.760 That I might be able to do it in my 1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:36.640 within my role. And that's like a great way to 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:36.920 put it. 1:13:37.040 --> 1:13:39.960 Is like I got to again like view it as 1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:43.840 a different perspective, like not only myself, but like the team. 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:51.320 And I'm very socially aware, like group aware, energy aware. 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:54.000 You know, like when someone walks in the room, like 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:56.920 I can feel it, like I can feel like how 1:13:56.920 --> 1:14:00.400 they're feeling and stuff like that. And I think I 1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:02.800 just need to use that as my advantage and in 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:06.439 my leadership skills and to become a better leader to 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:10.439 take that next step for not only me, but to 1:14:10.439 --> 1:14:13.559 help the team because I if I notice it and 1:14:13.600 --> 1:14:15.439 like I'm good at something, I got to use that 1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:16.240 to help the team. 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:17.559 Absolutely, I'm a fool. 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:22.400 Yeah, speaking of leadership, talk about Mercedes Lewis. He has 1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:25.639 this reputation that he's been how many years is Mercedes 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:26.240 has played? 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:28.439 I mean this will be eighteen, I think eighteen years. 1:14:28.439 --> 1:14:30.000 He's like one of the oldest players in the league, 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:32.920 if not like tied for Tom Brady for being the 1:14:32.920 --> 1:14:35.479 oldest in the league. But talk about like him and 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:39.560 his leadership because I've heard stories like I've seventeen Yeah, 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:42.800 Lafleur has talked about how influential of a leader he is. 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:45.400 Like everybody who's played with him has talked about him 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:48.080 as a leader, like speak on his his leadership and 1:14:48.160 --> 1:14:50.160 like what he's meant to you as a growth, not 1:14:50.200 --> 1:14:51.960 only as a player but also probably a person. 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:55.320 I mean, like I was saying, like you don't always 1:14:55.320 --> 1:14:59.040 want to hear like a coach or coaches like speak 1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:02.760 all the time because like yeah, like I mean your 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:05.400 coach is valuable to the team. Yes I'm not downgrading that, 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:07.599 but like to an extent you want to hear someone 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:09.320 who's done it right. 1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:11.400 Like when he talks, coach is always on the podium 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:13.679 and they're always saying right, but I'm always gonna say 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:15.919 the you know, not not to say it's always political, 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:18.400 but you know they're in the best interest of an 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:19.799 entire team when they're trying to give. 1:15:19.640 --> 1:15:22.599 Any And when he talks, people listen. 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:28.519 Like his demeanor, his voice, what he says, like it's 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:31.720 meaningful and it has like a purpose. It's not just 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:33.479 like going up there and like you know, saying a 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:38.320 quote or like trying to like just give external motivation. 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:42.519 It's like really from like what he's done, what he's 1:15:42.600 --> 1:15:46.200 been through, and what he sees, and like that's why 1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:49.280 like being around him, like from when I got there, 1:15:49.320 --> 1:15:53.080 like I like what twenty three years old, I felt 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:56.479 like I've matured like ten years over like you know, 1:15:56.720 --> 1:16:01.040 whatever time I was with him, because when he talks, 1:16:01.080 --> 1:16:03.759 like I just listen and because like he cares about 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:07.160 me and I know that just like for what we 1:16:07.200 --> 1:16:09.479 talk about, and you know what he's done for me 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:14.160 on and off the field, you know, showing me, you know, 1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:17.719 things I haven't ever experienced, like from like a little 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:20.639 you know, small farmtown in Illinois and he's from like La, 1:16:21.400 --> 1:16:24.439 you know, he just got to like he's just made 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:28.800 sure I've experienced stuff that I wouldn't get to experience 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:30.280 and in the right way. 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:36.599 And and that's like he's meant so much. 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:39.240 Like that is like the most influential person like with 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:45.160 football that I've ever been around, Like for me, Like 1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:48.280 like our talks like we're like well, like we'll say, 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:49.760 like what's up in the here and there and like, 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:53.840 but like our conversations are never like wasted or surface 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:57.160 level like ever. And that's like the best part about it. 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:00.200 Like there's no small talk with me and Sadie's. It's 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:03.519 everything's meaningful and that's like the best. And it's every 1:17:03.600 --> 1:17:05.880 day so it's not just like, oh hey, what's up, 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:08.880 you know, what'd you do last night? Oh okay, It's 1:17:08.920 --> 1:17:11.920 never that. It's like, hey, how's your mom doing? 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:12.160 Well? 1:17:12.160 --> 1:17:16.080 How's your mom doing? You know, like what is you know, 1:17:16.160 --> 1:17:17.920 what are you going with or what are you dealing 1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:20.040 with like off the field or how's this or how's 1:17:20.040 --> 1:17:22.280 this situation? I don't want to get into like too 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:24.600 much like personal right between us two, but like but. 1:17:24.640 --> 1:17:26.000 It's not small talk. You guys are. 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:29.439 Always deep and like every Wednesday it would be me, 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:31.479 him and our tight ends coach at the time, Jail 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:32.800 he's the OHC in Denver. 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:33.080 Now. 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:37.599 Every Wednesday we'd sit down when they were doing special 1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:39.599 teams and I'd just go in there and we would 1:17:39.640 --> 1:17:43.400 just talk like real life shit and like every Wednesday 1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:46.280 it was basically like a prize session, like of us 1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:49.479 just pouring shit out because like you need it, because 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:52.760 like known externally outside of the building truly gives a 1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:56.240 fuck what you're feeling. They're just like, like I'm saying, 1:17:56.320 --> 1:17:59.599 how many stats are you doing. 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:01.559 The game performance space business? Yeah, but like that was 1:18:01.560 --> 1:18:02.519 like so good for us. 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:06.160 And that's why we're we got so close over the 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:09.719 years too, is just because we talk about real ass 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.679 shit and real ass you know things that were going 1:18:12.680 --> 1:18:15.479 through or thinking. And I'm not afraid to ask him 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:17.720 any question and he's not afraid to like give me 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:21.840 the truth. And for him to be at where he 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:23.160 is in his career. 1:18:24.479 --> 1:18:29.520 Oh yeah, brain little adversity. 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:35.760 Yeah, Like I don't I didn't deserve what he was 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.800 giving me at the beginning. Like I even like felt 1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:40.960 like I'm not even deserving of this guy's time, but 1:18:41.040 --> 1:18:44.680 he saw something in me. Sounds cliche, but like he 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:47.439 was like, you know, people don't move like you at 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:50.000 your size, like telling me that, like people arenest you know, 1:18:50.040 --> 1:18:52.320 people can't stretch the field like you. People don't have 1:18:52.400 --> 1:18:55.600 the will and the urge to be great like you do, 1:18:55.800 --> 1:18:57.599 Like you want to be great, Like there's a lot 1:18:57.600 --> 1:18:59.040 of people who are just like in the league. To 1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:01.240 be in the league, you're really trying to be great. 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:03.519 And I'm like, yeah, I am, Like how'd you even 1:19:03.600 --> 1:19:06.600 notice that? But like that's how like we you know, 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:09.360 we feel each other out and we you know, understand 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.080 each other. And last year, like one of the talks 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:15.320 that stuck with me that like really made me just 1:19:15.360 --> 1:19:20.960 like honestly like like breakdown. And for him to break 1:19:21.000 --> 1:19:24.000 down was like there's two things he said to me. 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:28.759 He said for us, like he said, I've never felt 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:33.040 more like close to a person, like as like relatable, 1:19:33.080 --> 1:19:36.080 as like a quote unquote twin than you. 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:37.760 And like this dude six eight. 1:19:38.160 --> 1:19:41.519 Obviously me and Mercedes do not look alike, but like 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:44.880 for he's but like you know, for him to be 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:50.320 like like we operate the same like internally and like, 1:19:50.680 --> 1:19:54.479 you know him coming from you know Polly, you like 1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:58.920 right La and me you know, coming from where I'm from, 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:03.120 Like we don't have the same you know. 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:05.320 Well even the age gap too, like when you're an 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:07.960 old when you're like an older just vet, yeah, you 1:20:08.040 --> 1:20:10.000 kind of just you do your thing, you do all 1:20:10.040 --> 1:20:10.559 your process. 1:20:10.640 --> 1:20:13.320 You get them into probably a big family. Yeah, but 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:15.880 that's just what I did. I just yea and we 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:16.559 were there late. 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:20.200 We you know, I adapted the recovery process, like he 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:21.639 helped me with my recovery process. 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:23.479 Like we get to like have the same schedule like that. 1:20:23.560 --> 1:20:26.120 And it's just like he's like, I've never related to 1:20:26.200 --> 1:20:29.320 someone in the football sense, like on the football field 1:20:29.360 --> 1:20:34.280 like I do you and just by like kind of chance, 1:20:34.360 --> 1:20:36.560 you know, And that meant a lot to me. That 1:20:36.600 --> 1:20:37.960 was at the end of last year. That was after 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:41.200 my injury. But during the season last year he said, 1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:44.880 he said, the first time in my life, I'm content 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:49.920 with being number two. And I was like, whoa, And 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:53.160 that's a dude, who's you know, Pro Bowl seventeen years, 1:20:53.760 --> 1:20:58.120 done everything, thirteen years in Jacksonville, you know, made this 1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:00.360 amount of money, you know, taking care of his mom, 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:04.240 like that like that's what like you know, sharing that 1:21:04.280 --> 1:21:06.559 same like passionate love for like our mothers and like 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:09.800 our wives and stuff like that, and like he said, 1:21:09.840 --> 1:21:11.800 I'm content with being number two for the first time 1:21:11.800 --> 1:21:13.320 in my life. Like I love sitting back and just 1:21:13.360 --> 1:21:16.360 watching you play football and have fun and like do 1:21:16.439 --> 1:21:19.000 your shit and just like go yeah. And it's like 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:20.960 he said, I'm gonna go on the field, I'm gonna 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:23.679 put my hands on someone for you. 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:26.439 And I was just like whoa. 1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:30.040 And that's like when I really was like this shit 1:21:30.240 --> 1:21:34.920 really means more than just like wins and losses like 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:39.360 cliche again, but like it does, like he really gives 1:21:39.360 --> 1:21:42.320 a fuck about me. And I was like, and that's 1:21:42.360 --> 1:21:47.200 like the the bond that like there's no monetary value 1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:49.439 for that, like you know, you can go elsewhere and 1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:52.439 play and get a check or what else or wherever, 1:21:52.520 --> 1:21:56.720 but like that value and that like bond, Like when 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:58.760 we're in twelve personnel and like me and him are 1:21:58.760 --> 1:22:00.559 next to each other, like we okay each other and 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:04.080 we just know like it's on yeah, and there's no 1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:07.840 like gray area with us, like we're overs over on 1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:10.960 the side, like he's you know, teaching me like past sets, 1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:13.720 run game stuff, but then it like goes to the 1:22:13.760 --> 1:22:17.840 field and it works like it happens. And like when 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:21.479 we're in twelve personnel, like we know, like that's the shit. 1:22:21.720 --> 1:22:26.559 Like we're there for each other. There's no hesitant, like 1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:28.920 we're just going because like we know each other and 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:31.080 we know and that's you do go that extra stuff 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:33.080 for someone you love. And that's why it's so cool 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:38.000 to have that relationship with everyone and have that you know, 1:22:38.160 --> 1:22:40.960 bond in Green Bay like that, because we do like 1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:43.880 go the extra stuff for everyone. But Sades is just 1:22:43.960 --> 1:22:47.520 like he's done so much like for me, like my mentality, 1:22:47.560 --> 1:22:49.519 and like he helps me with that too, Like that's 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:51.360 the number one guy that's just like helped me on 1:22:51.439 --> 1:22:55.840 and off the field, and like you know, you know 1:22:55.920 --> 1:22:57.840 he sees me run around, you know, being young. He goes, 1:22:57.880 --> 1:22:59.519 you know, you make me feel young because like I'm 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:01.200 trying to like Chase like a young you know. 1:23:02.680 --> 1:23:04.280 Him to hear though by the way from like a vet. 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:06.479 So I say, yo, bro, you make me feel young again. 1:23:06.520 --> 1:23:08.519 You're like yeah, I mean, and he's dope, like he 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:10.880 you know, he and he doesn't need me to make 1:23:10.960 --> 1:23:14.040 him feel young, like he's he's dope, like you know, 1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:18.000 his swag, his style, his like interests, like his vibe. 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:21.920 Like he is young, you know, you know he's outlay right, 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:26.360 but physically in football for me to be like you know, 1:23:26.479 --> 1:23:29.800 running around and you know, he's chasing me around and 1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:32.439 like you know, running routes and I'm hyping him up 1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:35.000 and when he's gonna touch on and practice of the game, 1:23:35.160 --> 1:23:36.880 like you know who the first person who's going to 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:39.479 be there, right, and like vice versa. And that's why, 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:42.479 like after I score, like that's low key the first 1:23:42.479 --> 1:23:44.120 person I'm looking for because I'm like, you. 1:23:44.080 --> 1:23:46.200 Know, like celebrate with the boy man. 1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:49.000 Yeah, like because like he truly, like honestly has meant 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:50.400 the most of me in my football career. 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:53.080 Like, hands down, that's awesome. It's really cool to hear. 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:56.759 I want to talk about the Unicorn, the my serious 1:23:56.800 --> 1:23:59.800 creature that everybody's always worried about. That everybody's always wondering 1:23:59.800 --> 1:24:02.479 what he does his off seasons that he's on the 1:24:02.520 --> 1:24:07.360 Pat McAfee show, like every Monday or Tuesday. He's just 1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:11.519 got everyone's just always extremely concerned about Aaron Rodgers. What's 1:24:11.560 --> 1:24:13.840 it like playing with a rod what's he like in 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:15.599 the locker room, Like, what's he like as a leader? 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:18.519 What's your guys' relationship, like talk about him a little bit. 1:24:18.520 --> 1:24:20.000 And then also I would love to get into his 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:20.599 new tattoo. 1:24:23.360 --> 1:24:24.839 Can I just start with a tattoo? 1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:28.320 Because I just want to say that, because we were 1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:31.120 joking about tattoos one time, Like we were just eating 1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:33.640 dinner or launch at the table or whatever, and we 1:24:33.640 --> 1:24:36.320 were just talking about tattoos or whatever. 1:24:36.360 --> 1:24:39.000 I think we were low key talking about Preston Smith's tattoos. 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:41.880 I'm serious, because he got he got like a cool 1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:45.800 like like a devil and angel tattoo, like whispering in 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:47.639 his ears and like you know, a rod like can't 1:24:47.680 --> 1:24:48.320 keep his mouth show. 1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:50.559 So you had to like flame Preston or whatever. Dude, 1:24:50.560 --> 1:24:53.000 that is hilarious. I have a just side note, keep 1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:56.200 your thought. I have a photo that that photo right there, 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:59.400 hang on go back top left. 1:24:59.680 --> 1:25:02.880 That's of me. That is on my phone. He posted 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:09.880 that on snapchat one time. I love I love Peter Death. 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:10.800 He's the he is. 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:14.000 He is he is a bright spotting Yeah, like that's 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.760 it's dope. But he's a bright spot in the locker 1:25:16.960 --> 1:25:17.760 like he is a good like. 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:19.800 He's a good time. He's like a good vibe. He's 1:25:19.800 --> 1:25:22.120 always warn the most fashionable stuff you can find. I 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:25.799 remember year, he know that the Spike shoes like every 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:28.400 like a new pair. He's always well, when you come 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:32.120 to Green Bay, we'll get him right, Yeah, he's always yeah, yeah, 1:25:32.560 --> 1:25:34.360 we'll have to. Uh we got to get pressed on 1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:36.599 the bus. I love pressing though. But anyway, you guys 1:25:36.640 --> 1:25:38.160 are talking about the tattoo. He had the devil on 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:43.640 the Angel flamed him and now a Rod's got his illuminating. 1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:46.280 So he was like, you know, he was like, I'm 1:25:46.280 --> 1:25:49.559 in the process of creating one and I'm like okay. 1:25:50.280 --> 1:25:52.600 Aaron said that, Yeah this was a while ago, and 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:55.880 I'm like okay, and you know he's going through you know, 1:25:56.080 --> 1:25:57.800 he didn't tell me about it because he was like, 1:25:57.840 --> 1:25:59.559 you know, it's you know, it's kind of like it's 1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:02.680 you know, like when he like when something's important to him, 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:04.559 it's like dramatic in a. 1:26:04.520 --> 1:26:05.439 Good way deepest. 1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:10.439 Yeah, it's like listen, you know, and like he's like, 1:26:11.360 --> 1:26:13.320 you know, he really tries to make you like buy 1:26:13.400 --> 1:26:16.120 in in the and I'll get later on in uh 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:19.640 when our mon me and his Monday met him and 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:21.960 Alan was ours Monday night hangout. It's like our deep 1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:26.600 talks by the fire. It's so funny. But so he 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:28.200 was like, I was like, where are you gonna get it? 1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:30.320 And he like went into you know, a deep description 1:26:30.479 --> 1:26:33.960 kind of a whatever, and he just goes right here, man, 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:39.000 and I'm like, that's bold. And I didn't believe him, 1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:42.040 like zero, So I totally forgot about it because you know, 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.800 like a rod talks like certain things and he says 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:48.640 some things whatever. Next thing, I know, like what a 1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:51.320 couple like a month ago, it just popped up and 1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:51.920 that's dope. 1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:54.600 By the way, Yeah, how so how long are we 1:26:54.680 --> 1:26:56.680 saying that this tattoo has been worked on? 1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:00.760 Oh a year or more? Probably Like oh, like. 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:03.479 You're saying, you're saying by the time you're saying, this 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:05.599 thing has been in the process for a while, Yes. 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:06.200 For sure. 1:27:06.560 --> 1:27:08.160 And but when he said it was gonna go right 1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:10.000 in this farm, I was like, yeah, you're lying, no 1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.680 chance right here. Next and then next thing, you know, 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:15.000 right right on the forearm. 1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:16.439 What does it all mean? Do we know? 1:27:16.800 --> 1:27:17.000 Well? 1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:19.080 I can't wait to learn about it, because I mean 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:21.920 I haven't been with him in person since But. 1:27:23.360 --> 1:27:25.320 Is there anything on there that might true? 1:27:25.320 --> 1:27:26.840 Well, I mean that's like you know, the birth chart 1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:28.720 in the stars. It's probably you know, like that when 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:34.360 he was born, like how the stars were and some 1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:38.400 correlation of stuff. Yeah, that guy, that artist. Yeah, and 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:40.719 it's well thought out. There's a story. And I can't wait. 1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:43.800 The waves. You know, he's told me stories about you know, 1:27:43.840 --> 1:27:46.160 the ocean and the waves that what what they mean 1:27:46.200 --> 1:27:50.559 to him. So I am you know, I feel like 1:27:50.600 --> 1:27:54.600 you know, you know, I feel if I'm guessing, and 1:27:54.640 --> 1:27:56.920 I don't want to be wrong, so don't take my 1:27:57.040 --> 1:27:59.760 correct or my full word for it. But you know, 1:27:59.840 --> 1:28:02.240 you of like a you know, uh, you know, a 1:28:02.320 --> 1:28:06.920 rising sign and you know a moon sign, and I'm 1:28:06.920 --> 1:28:09.240 guessing that's like the lions back and forth. Ones is 1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:13.439 dark side. Ones is like calm side. I think it's 1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:18.000 dope though, Hey, okay, yeah, I mean I think it's dope. 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:20.680 But it's just funny because like I'm gonna have the 1:28:20.800 --> 1:28:27.280 MVP quarterback under center on Sunday Night Football with a 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:29.840 hippie tattoo on his forearm right here. 1:28:30.000 --> 1:28:34.400 That's first touchdown celebration just right here. But uh no, 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:38.760 he like he is like playing with him, I mean 1:28:38.880 --> 1:28:39.439 arguably to. 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:44.679 Go yeah, and there's nothing more than. 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:50.479 Two minute drow with him, Like I like, that's when 1:28:50.520 --> 1:28:52.840 I love playing with Aaron the most. He is the 1:28:52.840 --> 1:28:55.080 best at it and then he like makes it look easy, 1:28:55.920 --> 1:29:02.120 but his demand for not perfection, but like he wants 1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:04.200 you to be thinking how he's thinking. And obviously we're 1:29:04.240 --> 1:29:08.160 not gonna be thinking how he's thinking because like you know, 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:08.840 he's out there. 1:29:08.880 --> 1:29:10.080 I mean you look at that too. 1:29:13.560 --> 1:29:18.360 I really like love being challenged by him because he 1:29:18.680 --> 1:29:20.640 like again, like he's a person who knows, like I 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:23.160 want to be great, and like two minutes when like 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:27.519 when shit is like flying, like defenses are flying around, 1:29:27.520 --> 1:29:30.720 they're not set. You know, he's rushing the line, he's 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:33.160 throwing out signals, he's looking this way. He throws up 1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:35.519 a signal and snaps the ball and you're over there, 1:29:35.560 --> 1:29:38.479 like you gotta know. But it does come with like 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:42.280 time playing with him. But I love playing with him 1:29:42.280 --> 1:29:47.320 because it's a challenge and it's not like, hey, this 1:29:47.400 --> 1:29:50.680 is the player we're running today, Da da da, it's 1:29:50.840 --> 1:29:54.040 like now listen, like and then he explains like the 1:29:54.080 --> 1:29:56.320 reason why, and it's like that's how I think. 1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:59.679 Why you guys, are we talking in practice? Both both everything? 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:02.000 You know, I mean a lot of the two minute 1:30:02.560 --> 1:30:04.880 drives are made up plays just fy like, so you 1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:06.720 can't game plan for Aaron and two minute drill. 1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:09.400 You just got to buckle up. You's got to buckle 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:10.680 the fuck up, you do. 1:30:10.920 --> 1:30:12.680 And that's like the best part about playing with him 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:14.759 is you know that and you have that edge on someone. 1:30:15.240 --> 1:30:16.960 So that's why you have to be more dialed in 1:30:17.040 --> 1:30:20.760 because you really you don't even know, so that's why 1:30:20.760 --> 1:30:22.800 you just got to really tap into like what's going on. 1:30:22.920 --> 1:30:25.120 But does he ever really calm demeanor in the huddle 1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:26.920 like when these high pressure. 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:29.400 Moments always and that's why it's so calm for us, 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:32.200 and that's like a good thing. And you know he, 1:30:32.320 --> 1:30:34.160 I mean, he has a fire in him like when 1:30:34.280 --> 1:30:37.080 shit's like when he you know, when shit's going good 1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:41.920 or shit's going like, he demands, he demands like whatever 1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:44.040 it is. And I don't want to say perfection because 1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:49.519 like the word perfection is just whatever. But he really 1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:54.479 is so fun to play with because I don't even 1:30:54.560 --> 1:30:56.840 know how to describe it, Like, yeah, he's great and 1:30:56.880 --> 1:30:59.400 it's like awesome to be like what a great quarterback is, right, 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:01.439 you know, cat, you know it's easy, but it's just 1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:06.439 like it's a challenge and I like a challenge, and 1:31:09.200 --> 1:31:11.439 it's wild. It's really wild to be in the huddle 1:31:11.479 --> 1:31:14.200 with him when you look when like when you sit 1:31:14.280 --> 1:31:16.600 back and you're like, what the hell did we just 1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:19.519 go through? But it's like it becomes second nature because 1:31:19.520 --> 1:31:21.639 you've played with him so much, or like you get 1:31:21.680 --> 1:31:24.760 reps with him, and it's fun because he really like 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:27.680 gives a fuck about you, Like he really gives a 1:31:27.680 --> 1:31:29.439 fuck about you. And that's the best part. 1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:33.040 What a uh I see Aaron Rodger's new girlfriend we 1:31:33.080 --> 1:31:36.040 have on the thing. I don't know anything of about her. 1:31:36.400 --> 1:31:39.360 I don't know anything about her. Just just just start 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:41.800 making it up. Well, people do say shit like that. 1:31:42.000 --> 1:31:45.200 But like off the field stuff, like me, him and 1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:48.519 Alan hang out, uh every Monday and we just like 1:31:49.200 --> 1:31:51.519 order pizzas and watch the Monday night football game and 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:54.080 sit out by his fire and we just talking. 1:31:54.160 --> 1:31:55.760 Like that's the same, like you just grow and you 1:31:55.840 --> 1:31:59.320 get to know people fire pit vibes. We're talking about that. 1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:02.439 Not too long, you know, he's probably gonna be like, 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:05.360 you know whatever, Wait, what's he gonna say? Should we 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:05.840 cut that out? 1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:09.640 No? Okay, keep that ship in. But like, you know, 1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:11.519 you know he's on you know, he's on McAfee. 1:32:11.560 --> 1:32:13.720 I'm on here, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, would you 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:15.080 think he'd be done to come on the bus? We 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:16.080 had the bus out in Green Bay? 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:19.639 Hundred percent? Did you co host? And I said, right here, yeah, 1:32:19.680 --> 1:32:22.080 I would love for you too, right there? Yeah, okay, good? 1:32:22.400 --> 1:32:24.120 And then you know, I just and I that's the 1:32:24.160 --> 1:32:26.400 best tattoo. Hey, teach us all about the tattoo. Maybe 1:32:26.400 --> 1:32:27.120 he already has on the. 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:30.679 He should, dude, I in the classic Like, I don't 1:32:30.680 --> 1:32:33.320 want to say, like he's just perceived by so much 1:32:33.760 --> 1:32:37.000 external bullshit. Bro, I know it's an asshole or whatever, 1:32:38.040 --> 1:32:42.519 but why like is he really hurting you or affecting you? 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:44.320 You know how everybody wants their star quarterbacks in the 1:32:44.400 --> 1:32:46.880 NFL to be right, I mean not really different? 1:32:47.000 --> 1:32:48.320 And that's like there is me. 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.960 There's like this perception of how each player has to 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:53.479 be for the public guy. 1:32:53.640 --> 1:32:56.599 Right, I think he does get so many opinions out there. 1:32:58.160 --> 1:32:59.639 You know, I don't want to like I was thinking 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:02.320 about it, but I just figure if Aaron will come on, 1:33:02.360 --> 1:33:04.400 then we can ask him. When Aaron's on here because 1:33:04.520 --> 1:33:06.120 we have him talk about it. You can see that 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:06.960 being like, uh. 1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:08.680 Yeah, I don't want to like headline, Yeah, I just 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:11.200 don't want to, Like obviously, I don't want to speak. 1:33:10.960 --> 1:33:13.640 For why there's so many opinions on Aaron Rodgers. 1:33:13.960 --> 1:33:16.720 No, And I think it's just mostly because Yeah, I 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:18.479 don't want to speak for anyone, but I just honestly 1:33:18.520 --> 1:33:23.519 think it's because he is great at what he does 1:33:23.920 --> 1:33:27.720 and he does it in a non traditional fashion. Yeah, 1:33:27.960 --> 1:33:31.880 and people don't like it's just an easy headline to 1:33:31.880 --> 1:33:34.360 bash him, absolutely, and that's what sucks is like. 1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:39.400 A doesn't give like traditional media much time. It kind 1:33:39.400 --> 1:33:40.880 of just like doesn't give it. He's kind of got 1:33:40.880 --> 1:33:42.640 that I don't give a fuck mentality about it. 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:44.080 Yeah, yeah, unapologetically. 1:33:44.080 --> 1:33:46.880 There you go blost and he dude, and you know, 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:49.920 there is stuff. Every person has stuff to work on. 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:52.760 Like he's not perfect, but he has such a good heart, 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:57.160 like he really gives like he's player first to the 1:33:57.240 --> 1:33:59.720 death of him, Like he gives a fuck about the 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:04.080 team and the players and like all that, and you know, 1:34:04.840 --> 1:34:07.400 like I said, everyone has stuff to work on or 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:10.840 like get better at or people don't like this, YadA YadA, 1:34:10.840 --> 1:34:12.000 But like at the end of the day, this dude 1:34:12.040 --> 1:34:14.040 has a like a good heart and he's good at football. 1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:15.840 So you're saying want to win a super Bowl? 1:34:16.160 --> 1:34:20.400 Yeah, So you're saying he does want to win football games. 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:20.920 Yeah. 1:34:21.040 --> 1:34:25.000 And again, I think the quote unquote you know misunderstood 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:28.360 is you know, I think that's the classic you just 1:34:28.400 --> 1:34:32.400 misunderstood from the external eye. But like everyone in the building, 1:34:33.120 --> 1:34:37.200 like in the locker room, knows and cares and like 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:41.839 understands him. But it's just weird that everyone outside doesn't. 1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:43.680 But that's the only voice that people hear. 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:45.960 Either, best to figure out the narrative on it, which 1:34:46.000 --> 1:34:48.240 is why you get all the storylines or everything else. 1:34:49.160 --> 1:34:50.479 What do we got boys? Should we get in? It's 1:34:50.520 --> 1:34:54.519 your talk? Hang on? But before hang on, you got Jack? 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:56.120 Is that? 1:34:56.400 --> 1:34:56.639 Yeah? 1:34:56.840 --> 1:35:02.200 Madden just released the rankings today, Mountain twenty three. 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:04.920 That boy, that boy's a fifty three, and I'm gonna 1:35:04.960 --> 1:35:06.240 go get you and I'm gonna put you on. 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:08.479 My practice squad. You're fucking right, baby, just pay me 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:09.360 my money. 1:35:09.120 --> 1:35:12.320 But also they just tweeted out like thirty minutes ago 1:35:12.479 --> 1:35:15.759 the top tight ends for catching and our boys number 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:16.600 two slotted. 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:23.720 So hell yeah, oh ninety six catcher rating. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:35:23.720 --> 1:35:27.120 I'm probably you feel like that's valid? Yeah, no, that's valid. 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:30.240 I mean Travis Kesey's better than you. We're tired, but 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:32.200 you know, smart man, smart man. 1:35:32.320 --> 1:35:35.320 But yeah, I mean I don't even know. Yeah again, 1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:36.799 I don't care, So I don't even want. 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:39.680 To ask George ninety one tough look, but. 1:35:39.720 --> 1:35:42.200 Like, yeah, I probably I'm probably like outside the top 1:35:42.280 --> 1:35:45.360 twenty and like overall tight ends what it? 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:48.080 Dude does? Do we know his overall rating? Back? 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:52.240 His overall rating I think was eighty. 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:53.200 So you would say, you're you you think that's pretty 1:35:53.320 --> 1:35:55.920 uh spot on being five points ahead of George Kittle 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:56.639 for the catcher rating. 1:35:57.560 --> 1:35:59.560 Yeah, because he's probably like a bunch ahead of me 1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:03.200 for like we're just trying to keep this on catcher raating. Yeah, 1:36:03.880 --> 1:36:07.439 and George, that's our headline, George, George, George, tell me 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:09.240 I have some of the softest hands. 1:36:09.600 --> 1:36:12.200 Hey, yo, So George, you were supposed to be the 1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:15.120 one on your were you supposed to be the one 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:16.200 for tight ending you podcast? 1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:16.800 Oh? 1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:17.840 You? 1:36:18.479 --> 1:36:21.320 Uh no, it was just well kind of Yeah, I 1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:22.479 wish George would have been here. 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:23.559 Yeah, same here. 1:36:23.600 --> 1:36:25.839 I would like to say this though, it was funny 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:28.080 because I haven't even brought up to George or joked 1:36:28.080 --> 1:36:29.760 about it, but I joked about it to you about 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:31.679 kittle Fest. I want to say it as a funny joke. 1:36:32.240 --> 1:36:35.760 So he hit up me in TJ and he was like, yo, like, hey, 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:37.240 are you getting on the bus. I'm like, yeah, I 1:36:37.240 --> 1:36:39.120 was gonna do a solo with Will And he's like, well, 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:40.960 I'm trying to get on with you and TJ because 1:36:41.000 --> 1:36:42.880 I want to promote tight end you. I was like, 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:46.920 just let me know. And like three days later, you. 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:48.599 See us sweet about Josh and George. 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:51.519 George and Josh Allen pull up in the sadies like 1:36:51.640 --> 1:36:54.400 I'm like, I mean, I don't care, but I just 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:56.200 want to say, you know, I just want to I 1:36:56.280 --> 1:36:56.679 just want. 1:36:56.560 --> 1:36:58.400 To explose George. No, George like I. 1:36:58.400 --> 1:37:00.200 Don't care a but you know, I was just yeah, 1:37:01.400 --> 1:37:03.160 that's it, that's how we were best friends. 1:37:04.640 --> 1:37:07.000 That's like, uh fucking bro stuff right there, Like you know, 1:37:07.080 --> 1:37:09.479 I don't care, but also yeah, I should have been 1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:10.160 the one on here. 1:37:10.400 --> 1:37:14.559 No, but no, Yeah, it's super cools. 1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:15.920 Crazy how you invited me over to your house. I 1:37:15.920 --> 1:37:17.080 don't get a call, and I see a lot of 1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:19.439 people come over to your house. That's all the bikes 1:37:19.439 --> 1:37:23.439 out front. That's crazy. Oh you live out there? You 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:23.920 live out there? 1:37:24.000 --> 1:37:24.160 Yeah? 1:37:24.240 --> 1:37:27.800 Yeah, so you live out in Uh, we won't say 1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:30.280 exactly where unless you want to disclose that information. You 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:34.040 said you just said it, well your actual address, but 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:37.960 a being on Kittle Fesst Like y'all live out there. Yeah, 1:37:38.160 --> 1:37:40.639 and some stuff goes down. Apparently you had a nice 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:43.280 you had a nice story. Yeah, would you care to 1:37:43.320 --> 1:37:45.320 share on the podcast if I may? 1:37:45.560 --> 1:37:48.240 Is it? Yeah, floors open. I think it's an incredible story. 1:37:48.320 --> 1:37:49.640 Yeah, I just didn't know if it was you know, 1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:54.840 your mansion and pool and stuff, if it's promoting you know, no, 1:37:54.880 --> 1:37:55.280 not at all. 1:37:55.240 --> 1:37:56.920 Because I'll tell mine too. The guy at the gas. 1:37:56.720 --> 1:38:02.120 Station, So you know, I was out there out back 1:38:02.160 --> 1:38:04.479 by the pool. Chef Dave was grilling, cooking it up. 1:38:04.560 --> 1:38:06.960 So we were just outside and enjoying the stars, like 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:10.040 ou't even like it's not like it's pitch black. It's 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:13.599 nothing that's like the best sky is like street lights. 1:38:13.600 --> 1:38:16.040 There's nothing. I'm in the middle of nowhere, So We're 1:38:16.080 --> 1:38:18.840 just out there like enjoying, talking whatever, and all of 1:38:18.840 --> 1:38:21.519 a sudden, I see fourteen cop cars. Like this was 1:38:21.560 --> 1:38:23.439 like in a time where like the trees, I'm surrounded 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:26.439 by trees, so like the trees weren't bloomed yet. So 1:38:26.479 --> 1:38:28.439 I just saw through like the woods to like my 1:38:28.560 --> 1:38:30.679 drive Like at the end of my driveway, I see 1:38:30.760 --> 1:38:33.879 like four fourteen cop cars. Like I'm dead serious, There's 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:37.400 a lot of cop cars pull right up through. And 1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:40.960 I was like, damn, like what's going on up there? 1:38:41.520 --> 1:38:43.559 So I was like, you know, grab Chef Dave and 1:38:43.600 --> 1:38:45.800 we're like we'll just walk up. Do something wrong At 1:38:45.800 --> 1:38:49.720 this point, no, I just was like again like I'm 1:38:49.760 --> 1:38:52.599 in the middle of nowhere, like what's really going on here? 1:38:52.600 --> 1:38:54.639 And I'm fresh, this is my first year in the house. 1:38:54.680 --> 1:38:57.880 I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I'm like, 1:38:58.240 --> 1:38:59.880 I'm gonna be a homeowner though, I'm gonna go there 1:38:59.920 --> 1:39:01.679 and see what's going on. Like I'm gonna I'm gonna 1:39:01.720 --> 1:39:03.519 just stand on my territory. You know, this is my 1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:06.120 this is my you know, my yard. So I walk 1:39:06.200 --> 1:39:08.320 up my driveways like you know, three hundred yards long. 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:12.840 So I'm walking up in the pitch black like again 1:39:12.960 --> 1:39:18.080 walking with Yeah, just do you have a rob on? No, 1:39:18.600 --> 1:39:21.280 that would have been awesome. But I walk up there, 1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:24.200 and as I'm getting closer, I see like a regular 1:39:24.320 --> 1:39:27.240 car at the end of my driveway, like just pulled into. 1:39:27.160 --> 1:39:30.880 The front, surrounded by all the cop cars. The cop 1:39:30.920 --> 1:39:31.559 cars are on the line. 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:34.080 And then I see an ambulance as I walk around, 1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:36.160 and then I see an ambulance too, and then a 1:39:36.280 --> 1:39:38.640 car and it has like a bunch of shit in it, 1:39:38.760 --> 1:39:41.200 like stuffed in the windows, you know, like a car, 1:39:41.320 --> 1:39:43.160 like a little car, but like I had a bunch 1:39:43.200 --> 1:39:43.680 of shit in it. 1:39:43.800 --> 1:39:44.360 Yeah. 1:39:44.479 --> 1:39:46.880 So I'm getting closer and closer. I'm like, oh shit, 1:39:46.920 --> 1:39:51.920 this car is in my driveway, getting closer, and then 1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:53.720 all of a sudden, the cops like turn to me 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:55.880 and all flash their lights at me, like super quick, 1:39:56.600 --> 1:39:59.759 and like I just like, hey man, this is my crib, 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:05.559 Like what, like what's going on? Like just trying to 1:40:05.640 --> 1:40:06.360 just like see. 1:40:06.200 --> 1:40:08.440 I'm trying to figure out what's going on this my property. 1:40:08.080 --> 1:40:11.680 Yeah whatever, trying to be a homeowner. Yeah, and my 1:40:11.880 --> 1:40:16.439 joys and a cop that pulled me over like three 1:40:16.479 --> 1:40:19.120 days before back there because I had Illinois plates. I 1:40:19.120 --> 1:40:22.320 had tens. I was speeding. He's like, you checked all boxes. 1:40:22.320 --> 1:40:24.080 I had to pull your ass over. I'm like, no, doubt. 1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:26.880 Like I didn't even say anything. I was like, yeah, 1:40:26.880 --> 1:40:28.840 that's not me. I was just a ticket no, because 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:33.200 I was like, hey, I was just his wife was 1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:36.040 a Packers fan, and that's how he was like, oh, 1:40:36.080 --> 1:40:37.280 my wife's a huge Packers fan. 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:39.439 I was like, what a compliment just based off of 1:40:39.479 --> 1:40:40.280 your idea? Or did you? 1:40:40.360 --> 1:40:45.679 He was like Wikipedia, No, because I'm either Teddy. 1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:47.000 Taylor did one time we got pulled over? 1:40:47.320 --> 1:40:51.479 Come on, didn't he that's what he does? Yeah? 1:40:51.560 --> 1:40:53.360 Okay, yeah, I like, you know, I don't have my 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:53.960 ID on me. 1:40:54.080 --> 1:40:55.439 He's like, I'm just trying to figure out the best 1:40:55.479 --> 1:40:57.639 way to show you. He's got his Wikipedia page coming. 1:40:57.560 --> 1:41:01.400 Up, all right, come on? So no, but yeah for that, 1:41:01.520 --> 1:41:03.960 so that story whatever I give him. I d's like, 1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:06.240 how do I know you? And I'm like I don't know, 1:41:06.320 --> 1:41:08.840 Like I don't want to be that guy. Like I 1:41:08.880 --> 1:41:11.840 was speeding too, so I was like whatever. So I 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:14.880 was like I don't know, and he was like, let 1:41:14.880 --> 1:41:16.519 me see your tints and I rolled him up. He's 1:41:16.520 --> 1:41:17.640 like those are the league. I'm like, yeah, I have 1:41:17.680 --> 1:41:20.720 him for work, just for privacy reasons. He's like, what 1:41:20.760 --> 1:41:23.640 do you do for work? And I was like, I 1:41:23.640 --> 1:41:26.120 work up in Green Bay and he's like that's how 1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:28.120 I know you. And he's like, my wife's a huge 1:41:28.120 --> 1:41:32.280 Packers fan. I'm like, great compliment. And I was like, hey, 1:41:32.280 --> 1:41:34.439 I was just coming home from workouts. I was cruising 1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:36.479 because I was just like having a good time, nice weather, 1:41:36.560 --> 1:41:39.479 windows open. I was just yeah, I was just cruising. 1:41:39.520 --> 1:41:41.040 And I was like, I just let it get away 1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:43.200 from me. He's like, yeah, just make sure you get 1:41:43.240 --> 1:41:45.679 your license changes when I have my Illinois all that stuff. 1:41:45.720 --> 1:41:47.440 So all this stuff's changed. 1:41:47.400 --> 1:41:50.160 Three days later, right, and then three days later. 1:41:50.040 --> 1:41:51.920 So then pup and he's like, oh, mister Tonia, sorry 1:41:51.960 --> 1:41:55.240 for the disturbants. Like I'm like, what's going on? Like 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:57.439 I see some lady like hugging this dude like oh 1:41:57.520 --> 1:42:01.120 I missed you, like oh my gosh, like crying. I'm 1:42:01.120 --> 1:42:03.519 like this is way too much for me right now. 1:42:03.520 --> 1:42:06.200 It's like eleven at night or ten at night maybe, 1:42:08.000 --> 1:42:10.880 and he like pulls me aside and he goes all right, listen, 1:42:11.000 --> 1:42:13.280 you know this guy just got out of jail. 1:42:15.200 --> 1:42:15.320 Uh. 1:42:15.439 --> 1:42:19.240 He was in the passenger seat, was you know, was 1:42:19.240 --> 1:42:24.719 shooting up you know the good stuff. I guess shooting 1:42:24.760 --> 1:42:30.360 apparelin And I was like, just got out of jail. 1:42:29.560 --> 1:42:30.400 Poor heroin. 1:42:30.840 --> 1:42:35.599 Then he's in you know, doing this now he started 1:42:35.640 --> 1:42:38.880 O D and I guess, well he did OD and 1:42:39.640 --> 1:42:43.880 his girlfriend was panicking, was freaking out. Got was got 1:42:43.920 --> 1:42:46.160 turned around back in my area, trying to get out 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:48.920 of my name like my area, and like I said, 1:42:48.920 --> 1:42:50.800 like I'm in the middle of nowhere there. So she 1:42:50.880 --> 1:42:52.960 got lost and so she pulled over in the end 1:42:52.960 --> 1:42:57.280 of my driveway to call the ambulance. So he was 1:42:57.320 --> 1:43:01.280 like yeah, so he so he just resuscitated him, we 1:43:01.360 --> 1:43:02.519 know whatever they sticking with. 1:43:02.560 --> 1:43:03.439 I can't remember if. 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:08.360 Yes, And he's back and we're just gonna send him 1:43:08.400 --> 1:43:11.240 back to jail. So no big deal. And I'm like, 1:43:11.880 --> 1:43:16.000 no big deal. I'm like, wait, so that guy like 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:19.200 super chill. I was like, so that guy was dead 1:43:19.320 --> 1:43:23.840 ten minutes ago, and now he's standing right there, yep, 1:43:24.080 --> 1:43:27.920 And I'm like I'm going back inside. Next morning, I 1:43:27.960 --> 1:43:30.600 was out there with Sage waving it like I'm like, 1:43:30.720 --> 1:43:33.280 get the fuck out of here, like no bad energy, 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:35.280 no bad vibes. I'm not gonna have a dead dude 1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:36.960 at the end of my driveway and every time I 1:43:37.120 --> 1:43:37.959 drive out. 1:43:38.040 --> 1:43:40.160 I have to go through that shit. Yeah. No, I 1:43:40.200 --> 1:43:41.760 was just yeah. 1:43:41.800 --> 1:43:43.920 So I was just honestly just hitting him with the 1:43:44.280 --> 1:43:45.840 h hitting it with the sage at the end of 1:43:45.840 --> 1:43:50.639 the driveway, letting it burn and just and no problem 1:43:50.680 --> 1:43:51.160 saying dude. 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:52.719 So a few days ago, I was in that gas 1:43:52.760 --> 1:43:55.000 station that I shit on on the Shane Gillis podcast. 1:43:55.520 --> 1:43:59.000 I walked in like, and uh, I was filling in 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:02.639 my tank and I need I needed to take it too. 1:44:03.360 --> 1:44:05.160 For whatever reason, I don't know why I didn't wait 1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:07.360 to get home or wherever I was going, but I 1:44:07.400 --> 1:44:08.840 was like, well, let me just check this out. I 1:44:08.840 --> 1:44:10.800 wouldn't advise like taking a two in any kind of 1:44:10.840 --> 1:44:12.519 gas station, but when you gotta go, you gotta go. 1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:15.840 So I go in this is a small bathroom stall 1:44:15.960 --> 1:44:20.519 I'm talking to urinal a stall and a small fucking room. 1:44:20.560 --> 1:44:22.400 Right when you walk in, you can see the door 1:44:22.439 --> 1:44:25.160 to the stall and the in the toilet sideway, so 1:44:25.479 --> 1:44:27.880 you know how, you can see the crack right when 1:44:27.880 --> 1:44:29.920 you walk in, and so you could kind of see 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:32.720 the person's legs right away, and you kind of just 1:44:32.760 --> 1:44:34.639 see him like he's like leaned up forward, and I'm thinking, 1:44:34.680 --> 1:44:35.920 what the fuck's going on here? And you can just 1:44:35.920 --> 1:44:37.559 like see a shirt and everything you see just like 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:40.479 long tube. I think it is or a straw or something. 1:44:41.240 --> 1:44:43.280 And how much we know we don't know anything? 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:46.679 Yeah, uh yeah, for sure, you're saying. 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:49.680 So I'm sitting there and like you know, I kind 1:44:49.720 --> 1:44:51.160 of act like I'm taking a pissures to get a 1:44:51.200 --> 1:44:53.040 sense of its like is this dude in there shitting 1:44:53.080 --> 1:44:55.040 or is he gonna be quick or I don't know, 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:56.920 And he's kind of just sitting there and you kind 1:44:56.920 --> 1:44:58.439 of hear his like feet go a couple of times, 1:44:58.479 --> 1:44:59.880 and I get up and just start washing my hands. 1:45:00.160 --> 1:45:01.600 I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. And I 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:03.120 kind of like get knows. I'm kind of like leaning 1:45:03.120 --> 1:45:06.200 to look around. This motherfucker's got something like to his 1:45:06.560 --> 1:45:10.160 to his mouth smoking heroin. I guess getting here, I 1:45:10.160 --> 1:45:11.840 thought the heroin was like you put the thing around 1:45:11.840 --> 1:45:13.920 and you do the injection, but maybe you can so 1:45:14.160 --> 1:45:17.000 maybe it's he smoking crack. But he's just sitting there 1:45:17.080 --> 1:45:19.519 having a situation in the in the stall and I'm like, yeah, 1:45:19.520 --> 1:45:21.400 I'm getting the fuck out and he like and he 1:45:21.520 --> 1:45:23.759 like looked homeless, like he was like a junkie fucking 1:45:23.800 --> 1:45:24.839 in there getting high. 1:45:25.439 --> 1:45:26.200 And so I left. 1:45:26.200 --> 1:45:28.000 And this is the question, and this is the question 1:45:28.000 --> 1:45:29.120 I wanted to ask you guys. 1:45:29.200 --> 1:45:32.240 We're talking from an outside for you, what's up? 1:45:32.280 --> 1:45:34.840 Oh yeah, and they're just getting your ten Hey you're ten, 1:45:35.680 --> 1:45:38.080 but so but yeah, I'm gonna get the fuck out 1:45:38.120 --> 1:45:40.639 here and just roll it over wherever I was going. 1:45:40.640 --> 1:45:43.120 I don't even remember. I don't even remember what my 1:45:43.200 --> 1:45:46.400 mission was. But my question, you guys I wanted to ask. 1:45:46.439 --> 1:45:49.120 I'm like, i'll say it for the pod is. Part 1:45:49.160 --> 1:45:52.559 of me was like, should I tell the gas station 1:45:52.640 --> 1:45:54.880 employed that someone's in there just getting high? But then 1:45:54.920 --> 1:45:57.160 I thought to myself, oh no, I'm being a fucking tattletale. 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:00.000 But then I'm thinking, like, you know, a business owner 1:46:00.080 --> 1:46:02.840 would want some junkie and they're getting high. I didn't 1:46:02.840 --> 1:46:06.040 say anything, but what would you guys have done? 1:46:07.560 --> 1:46:10.120 I mean, yeah, it's not your business, do your thing. 1:46:10.200 --> 1:46:13.120 I guess right that shot. I mean that's a point 1:46:13.160 --> 1:46:14.760 I was thinking this. Yeah, I was like, I would 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:19.360 you do you do? Want to maybe you know, help 1:46:19.400 --> 1:46:21.960 that guy and like, you know, save his life. But 1:46:22.000 --> 1:46:24.080 then the day like he's going to do his thing. No, 1:46:24.120 --> 1:46:25.640 I wasn't one to save the dude at all. I 1:46:25.880 --> 1:46:27.639 was more like, you know what I'm saying, But it's 1:46:27.680 --> 1:46:29.680 more thinking like me who has a good heart. I'm like, 1:46:29.720 --> 1:46:31.080 you know, I don't. I wouldn't want that guy to 1:46:31.280 --> 1:46:32.960 od and die for sure. 1:46:33.400 --> 1:46:36.160 For sure. Hey man, you got a minute? Hey, you 1:46:36.200 --> 1:46:40.519 ever talked to the lord? Just knock on the door, 1:46:40.520 --> 1:46:40.800 you things? 1:46:40.840 --> 1:46:40.960 Dance? 1:46:41.040 --> 1:46:42.599 One wants to take a ship? Yeah, have you ever 1:46:42.640 --> 1:46:44.719 talked to the lord? Sir? Oh my gosh. 1:46:44.920 --> 1:46:47.360 But I'm thinking like from a business owner perspective, like, 1:46:47.640 --> 1:46:49.240 you know, if I want somebody to tell me, hey, 1:46:49.240 --> 1:46:51.320 there's a junkie and they're getting getting high right now, 1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:52.599 you know what I mean? 1:46:52.720 --> 1:46:55.720 Yeah, I'd probably just leave that one alone. Yeah, you 1:46:55.720 --> 1:46:57.040 do the right thing. Thank you. 1:46:57.160 --> 1:47:04.760 I appreciate that. Hey, coming the comment sections right, Yeah, 1:47:05.040 --> 1:47:07.200 no free shoutouts. So those two guys though, for shooting 1:47:07.280 --> 1:47:07.679 up Herolin. 1:47:07.840 --> 1:47:10.080 Yeah yeah, no free shadow dudes at all. 1:47:10.360 --> 1:47:12.760 Okay, Hey, so you also had beef to pick before 1:47:12.760 --> 1:47:16.240 we get into our tier talk. Beef Rob texting me 1:47:16.760 --> 1:47:18.960 this was back when we were getting a lot of 1:47:19.040 --> 1:47:22.760 traction with the burger talk and then maybe another tear 1:47:22.800 --> 1:47:25.800 talk conversation when Taylor was talking ship on Chick fil A. 1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:28.439 Yeah, I would love for him to be here for that. 1:47:28.760 --> 1:47:32.000 Come on, that's so trash, dude, he goes. 1:47:32.040 --> 1:47:33.400 When I get home, I want to get back on 1:47:33.400 --> 1:47:34.640 the bus because they got to talk to both of 1:47:34.720 --> 1:47:36.679 y'allbout some of you guys are selections and tear talk. 1:47:36.800 --> 1:47:40.160 Now we haven't spoken. We haven't spoken about the tear 1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:42.680 talk since then? What would you like to say to 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:44.479 us about that? 1:47:45.680 --> 1:47:47.639 Oh, you hated in and out right? Yeah, I should 1:47:47.680 --> 1:47:48.880 smack the funk out of you. 1:47:52.200 --> 1:47:55.719 But but but the living fucking dogs ship out of you, dude. 1:47:56.120 --> 1:47:59.519 No, But like you went into it with a negative mindset. 1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:01.840 You want In and Out to be bad before you 1:48:02.080 --> 1:48:04.719 ate it. That's a terrible perspective of going to didn't 1:48:04.720 --> 1:48:06.000 listen to the podcast? 1:48:06.120 --> 1:48:06.639 Is reality? 1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:09.240 And he didn't listen to the podcast? Did I get 1:48:09.360 --> 1:48:11.120 hype every time I go to In and Out? This 1:48:11.280 --> 1:48:13.760 last year, I've taken it upon myself to go on 1:48:13.800 --> 1:48:15.800 this journey of figuring out what burger I actually love 1:48:15.880 --> 1:48:16.960 the most because. 1:48:16.800 --> 1:48:18.720 I'm easily infious. I love like a lot of shit. 1:48:18.760 --> 1:48:19.880 I'm one of those guys who can go into any 1:48:19.920 --> 1:48:21.599 movie and I'll walk out back man, that show is awesome, 1:48:21.640 --> 1:48:26.000 right boys, and everybody be like no. But same with 1:48:26.080 --> 1:48:28.320 like food. I love all food, and I think every 1:48:28.320 --> 1:48:30.920 burger's fucking awesome. Like if I'm on text, if I'm 1:48:31.080 --> 1:48:32.559 in Texasus, I'm like, Hey, what a burger. 1:48:32.600 --> 1:48:33.280 That's just fire. 1:48:33.800 --> 1:48:35.360 So you just want to hype up the group so 1:48:35.400 --> 1:48:37.160 you're not really yourself, You're just no. 1:48:37.240 --> 1:48:39.000 I love I love the burgers. 1:48:39.040 --> 1:48:41.800 I love the burgers, but I love nothing more than 1:48:41.840 --> 1:48:44.720 to kind of start some ship amongst the fellas in 1:48:44.760 --> 1:48:47.559 the locker room when you got text there, like hey, 1:48:47.800 --> 1:48:50.040 in and out it's kind of trash, right boys in Texas. 1:48:49.840 --> 1:48:51.400 US, And they start arguing. Then you walk off and 1:48:51.400 --> 1:48:55.080 go take a shower. But you're a scumbag. And I 1:48:55.120 --> 1:48:58.360 texted you guys said I think you're just no. So listen, 1:48:58.640 --> 1:49:00.840 you got some good tea and I go ahead, they're fake. 1:49:01.880 --> 1:49:06.479 So if you listen to the pod this past year, 1:49:07.040 --> 1:49:09.639 when I decided to like, I'm gonna be intentional about 1:49:09.640 --> 1:49:12.240 trying these burgers for real, because when I played in Oakland, 1:49:12.280 --> 1:49:14.080 couldn't wait to go to in an out burger, right, 1:49:14.120 --> 1:49:14.840 and I'm loving it. 1:49:14.800 --> 1:49:17.040 With the yeah it shit fucking rips. Boys. 1:49:17.439 --> 1:49:20.120 I do think it's a good burger. Okay, what don't 1:49:20.160 --> 1:49:22.320 you like about it? I don't think it's great. I 1:49:22.320 --> 1:49:25.160 don't think and I again I've explained this in great details. 1:49:25.320 --> 1:49:26.679 It's not a gourmet burger. 1:49:27.200 --> 1:49:27.479 I'm not. 1:49:27.520 --> 1:49:29.360 We're not sitting here trying to say scourremet burgers. 1:49:29.360 --> 1:49:31.560 Now, if you want five guys that'll talk to you 1:49:31.560 --> 1:49:33.639 a little different, five guys is fucking fire. 1:49:33.760 --> 1:49:37.040 Yeah, five guys is up there. Yes, I'm yeah. 1:49:37.280 --> 1:49:39.440 When I try the in and out burger, the consistency 1:49:39.520 --> 1:49:42.120 from the from the butt, from the bun that goes 1:49:42.160 --> 1:49:45.800 down into the ingredients, yeah, breaks right before you get 1:49:45.800 --> 1:49:47.680 to the edge. I like mine a little more of 1:49:47.720 --> 1:49:52.640 like a a buttered style bun to where you get 1:49:53.840 --> 1:49:55.839 some mush that goes down into your bite. 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:58.559 Yeah, nothing that breaks right before you get to the ingredients. 1:49:58.560 --> 1:50:01.479 And to me, that is where in and out? How 1:50:01.479 --> 1:50:02.920 do you? What do you? Can you tell me your 1:50:03.040 --> 1:50:05.120 order it in and out? So I just double double? 1:50:06.760 --> 1:50:07.200 That's it? 1:50:07.560 --> 1:50:10.160 Well, I get double double, you get fries. Yeah, animals 1:50:10.640 --> 1:50:14.559 get animal style, right, yeah, which to get soggy. 1:50:14.640 --> 1:50:15.840 Oh what are you gonna say so you don't get it? 1:50:15.880 --> 1:50:18.000 Well done? No, no, no, I'm talking about the burger. We're 1:50:18.000 --> 1:50:23.600 talking about the projecting. I'm projecting me. I okay, so 1:50:24.640 --> 1:50:28.200 you can go. I think you should go. 1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:31.880 Next time you go, okay, you should get a you know, 1:50:32.560 --> 1:50:35.240 three by three see triple. 1:50:35.320 --> 1:50:37.120 I will never do that in my fucking life. I 1:50:37.200 --> 1:50:38.439 used to do for it, but I'll never do it 1:50:38.479 --> 1:50:38.920 in my life. 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:44.920 But get the animal style on the burger. So all 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:47.600 those ingredients, what do you mean by that? What do 1:50:47.640 --> 1:50:51.599 you mean by that? Get the animal style on the burger? 1:50:53.280 --> 1:50:56.000 I listen, I think in and out is good. No 1:50:56.439 --> 1:50:58.719 play a villain again. And that's what I was trying 1:50:58.720 --> 1:51:01.400 to Now. I think you were just Yeah, that's because part. 1:51:01.200 --> 1:51:02.640 Of you, like when you're arguing with your boy, Like 1:51:02.680 --> 1:51:05.360 when I'm arguing with Taylor and he like tries to 1:51:05.360 --> 1:51:07.320 shit on five guys or something else, there's like a 1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:08.920 there's like a war going on. 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:10.080 It's more of like a long game. 1:51:10.120 --> 1:51:12.400 And then when the Internet starts to be on somebody's side, 1:51:12.600 --> 1:51:13.600 you got to start using that. 1:51:13.720 --> 1:51:14.919 You're just creating conflict. 1:51:15.400 --> 1:51:17.519 Yeah, but if people who actually the tier ones out 1:51:17.520 --> 1:51:20.720 there who listen to the pod, they already know that 1:51:20.760 --> 1:51:23.960 this conversation was had, right, what's on social media? 1:51:24.000 --> 1:51:25.640 Like, that's just a different game, right, you know what 1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:25.920 I mean? 1:51:26.000 --> 1:51:28.360 You know, I get that, I get that, but you 1:51:28.400 --> 1:51:30.920 also want to get that great Yeah, oh yeah, I'm 1:51:30.960 --> 1:51:32.439 not out here saying like in and Out is the 1:51:32.439 --> 1:51:34.800 best burger, but like what you were perceiving it, you 1:51:34.840 --> 1:51:37.639 were acting like in and Out was trash. And that's 1:51:37.640 --> 1:51:39.479 why I was like, come on, man. 1:51:39.840 --> 1:51:42.280 I I I understand that angle. 1:51:42.360 --> 1:51:44.240 You have like such a good platform and you're just 1:51:44.360 --> 1:51:47.080 using it for the wrong reasons. No, I think that 1:51:47.160 --> 1:51:48.320 was a good I'm just hilted. 1:51:48.400 --> 1:51:49.840 I think that was a really good hilt of down 1:51:49.880 --> 1:51:51.800 because you have five guys that is gas though, like 1:51:51.840 --> 1:51:57.760 gasoline like Shakeshak Shakeshak's up there too, but in and 1:51:57.760 --> 1:52:01.200 out's up there too in a McDonald's double corbon or 1:52:01.240 --> 1:52:02.080 she smacks too. 1:52:02.760 --> 1:52:03.920 You are not wrong about that. 1:52:04.000 --> 1:52:06.240 I love auburt I'm with you, like, but I don't 1:52:06.280 --> 1:52:08.120 even think there's a bad burger, Like I wouldn't even 1:52:08.160 --> 1:52:09.519 be able to do a tier with that. 1:52:09.680 --> 1:52:13.439 I'm dead serious. Yeah, because they're all on that. But 1:52:13.479 --> 1:52:15.559 I'm thinking about one situation. Remember when we went to 1:52:15.600 --> 1:52:19.439 that dairy queen and that thing tomato was like this 1:52:19.560 --> 1:52:21.360 thick and then it was just like all mao, like 1:52:21.439 --> 1:52:23.640 a the workers back there didn't even look like they 1:52:23.680 --> 1:52:25.839 should be back there making burgers, right, But that obviously 1:52:25.920 --> 1:52:26.559 plays into it. 1:52:26.680 --> 1:52:31.040 Yeah, but I am Q doesn't count. Come on, but the. 1:52:31.200 --> 1:52:33.479 C you know them them chicken tinders with the country 1:52:33.479 --> 1:52:34.960 gravy and that Texas toast. 1:52:35.040 --> 1:52:37.000 Talk to him. That's like that. Then you can go 1:52:37.040 --> 1:52:38.760 to Sonic might as well go to Sonic. 1:52:38.560 --> 1:52:41.000 Sonic is I think Sonics a solid burger as well. 1:52:41.040 --> 1:52:42.639 But you are right, I'm with you on that. There's 1:52:42.640 --> 1:52:45.160 like I love them all. Damn the chick the Chick 1:52:45.160 --> 1:52:48.559 fil A thing did upset me though, Please please speak 1:52:48.560 --> 1:52:50.760 your truth, king, What so. 1:52:50.720 --> 1:52:53.240 What did Taylor not like about it? I that was 1:52:53.280 --> 1:52:55.240 so far back. I got rid of the negativity and 1:52:55.280 --> 1:52:55.960 now I got to rehab. 1:52:56.120 --> 1:52:58.839 Taylor's thing about Chick fil A is he says it's trash, 1:52:58.880 --> 1:53:02.120 it's the worst chicken sand. But his story and background 1:53:02.160 --> 1:53:04.439 on it is that was his fast food after all 1:53:04.479 --> 1:53:04.960 the games. 1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:08.560 Yeah, so yeah, you gotta have it like warm or 1:53:08.600 --> 1:53:11.479 you gotta have it like fresh, like sitting there to 1:53:11.560 --> 1:53:13.679 get like you're saying, like to get like you're saying 1:53:13.680 --> 1:53:15.160 like I'm gonna go out and find like the best 1:53:15.160 --> 1:53:17.040 burger or you like or really get like a. 1:53:17.000 --> 1:53:18.960 Good yeah chick fil you. 1:53:19.400 --> 1:53:21.519 I was the same way, like you get it after 1:53:21.560 --> 1:53:23.919 every game you have like it's like cold and watery 1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:25.080 the things sagi. 1:53:25.160 --> 1:53:28.559 That's was raising canes, which people love canes, and I 1:53:28.560 --> 1:53:30.280 do agree that Kanes is great, but it was something 1:53:30.320 --> 1:53:34.000 I had all the rains. Yeah, And that's what made 1:53:34.000 --> 1:53:37.080 me bad about Taylor's arguments is like he goes hard 1:53:37.160 --> 1:53:38.120 when he's against something. 1:53:38.160 --> 1:53:41.120 It's caused it trash and like really hurts my feelings. 1:53:41.320 --> 1:53:45.040 And uh, but when you you haven't truly like tried 1:53:45.080 --> 1:53:48.200 to give it a shot, like Okay, I understand why 1:53:48.280 --> 1:53:49.880 you might not like it, but go to Chick fil 1:53:49.880 --> 1:53:51.719 a for real in order something. 1:53:51.760 --> 1:53:54.120 For my life. Like when so he was probably saying 1:53:54.120 --> 1:53:55.120 their fries versagi. 1:53:55.120 --> 1:53:57.040 He was probably saying the bun with hoagi, the pickles 1:53:57.080 --> 1:54:01.160 are whatever, Like go in the and go order without pickles, 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:03.080 Like what are you talking about? Go order a fresh 1:54:03.479 --> 1:54:06.880 spicy chicken sandwich, no pickles. Add pepper Jack cheese. Put 1:54:06.920 --> 1:54:09.479 some Chick fil A sauce on that he's speaking, Dunk 1:54:09.520 --> 1:54:12.960 the waffle fries in the Polynesian sauce and get like 1:54:12.960 --> 1:54:15.080 one of those frozen lemonades. Just quit talking and then 1:54:15.120 --> 1:54:17.680 just tell them to quit talking the Chick fil A 1:54:17.800 --> 1:54:21.320 sauce it's too on the spicy chicken sandwich sauce. Yeah, 1:54:21.840 --> 1:54:23.200 Polynesian with the fries. 1:54:23.960 --> 1:54:26.439 But I like to dabble them with my fries. Oh, no, 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:28.360 fries can go into anything. I'm just you know, speaking 1:54:28.360 --> 1:54:29.920 from the heart. Yeah, yeah, I love that. 1:54:30.080 --> 1:54:32.200 One thing I will say that I haven't given credit 1:54:32.200 --> 1:54:35.720 out there too is the service, the customer service, which 1:54:35.920 --> 1:54:38.400 play that I think is a plus. I also feel 1:54:38.400 --> 1:54:41.200 the same way about In and Out because I think 1:54:41.200 --> 1:54:42.400 they run like that as well. 1:54:42.960 --> 1:54:47.000 Yeah, they're great service, Like they make the burgers fresh 1:54:47.000 --> 1:54:47.760 like right there, they're not. 1:54:48.760 --> 1:54:51.200 I give them everything, except I think the taste of 1:54:51.200 --> 1:54:52.640 the burger is not number one. 1:54:53.000 --> 1:54:56.520 It's not you know, it's not really top three. Yeah 1:54:56.600 --> 1:54:58.840 I would Yeah, I would love to think about that 1:54:58.880 --> 1:54:59.360 one more. 1:55:00.120 --> 1:55:01.920 Do it now now that you now that we've had 1:55:01.920 --> 1:55:05.320 this conversation, start going into every burger meal, Like I'm 1:55:05.360 --> 1:55:07.440 gonna intentionally see what's up, see what I. 1:55:07.400 --> 1:55:07.880 Love you guys. 1:55:08.120 --> 1:55:10.200 It's just like for five guys, you can't have it. 1:55:10.240 --> 1:55:12.200 What's good about five guys is you don't have it 1:55:12.280 --> 1:55:15.280 a lot because it's so like right thre you seeing stuff, 1:55:15.280 --> 1:55:17.560 so like when you do have it, you're like, all right, 1:55:17.560 --> 1:55:18.160 that's up there. 1:55:18.280 --> 1:55:20.520 Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. All right. 1:55:20.600 --> 1:55:22.880 We're taking a minute away from the episode to bring 1:55:22.920 --> 1:55:26.320 you guys upside. 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Back to the episode. 1:56:56.120 --> 1:56:58.040 All right, but our tiar talk this week is going 1:56:58.080 --> 1:57:05.040 to be best shame Sandwich Shops, best sandwich changed nationally. 1:57:05.120 --> 1:57:07.160 Now though we can't pick local stuff. 1:57:07.520 --> 1:57:09.640 I know when you guys were talking about the beer 1:57:09.680 --> 1:57:11.400 and I think I can't remember if it was you 1:57:11.520 --> 1:57:14.919 or Taylor who said, if you pick a local brewery 1:57:15.240 --> 1:57:17.920 Dell Taylor, Oh my god, that shit made me laugh 1:57:17.960 --> 1:57:19.560 because like that is like a scumback, because I was 1:57:19.600 --> 1:57:20.800 about to say, I was like, I have this place 1:57:20.800 --> 1:57:23.160 called Epic Deli in my hometown that makes like wild 1:57:23.240 --> 1:57:27.160 sandwiches like the d roses, a meatball with like Dorito's 1:57:27.200 --> 1:57:29.160 on it, like just like stuff like that. 1:57:29.200 --> 1:57:30.960 It's just like makes like wild stuff like it. No 1:57:31.040 --> 1:57:32.440 one gets to know that, right, And that's what I 1:57:32.440 --> 1:57:32.680 was saying. 1:57:32.680 --> 1:57:33.560 I was like, I couldn't wait to do it, and 1:57:33.600 --> 1:57:36.120 then I thought the tailor down, I'll get roasted, dude. 1:57:36.120 --> 1:57:38.879 There was a spot in Virginia called the Delhi, Italian 1:57:38.920 --> 1:57:43.160 known mom and pop family operated, and it was incredible. 1:57:43.160 --> 1:57:44.080 We'd get sandwiches. 1:57:44.280 --> 1:57:46.600 I'm talking you could get Gouda cheese on these things 1:57:46.960 --> 1:57:49.760 and he would send you they're so Italian. When you 1:57:49.840 --> 1:57:52.120 got the we would get the sandwich. A few of 1:57:52.160 --> 1:57:53.960 us would go in there like days before a game 1:57:54.040 --> 1:57:56.600 or something like on Friday before a game, and he 1:57:56.600 --> 1:58:01.000 would give us Freaknoli's like to go. It's phenomena. But anyways, 1:58:01.440 --> 1:58:03.840 you start this thing off. Okay, can I have your tears? 1:58:04.000 --> 1:58:05.960 No? But can I just talk? I want to talk 1:58:06.000 --> 1:58:08.240 about a couple that could be in my tears that 1:58:08.360 --> 1:58:08.840 like hit. 1:58:08.760 --> 1:58:11.520 Home for me? Go ahead, I do this quite a bit. 1:58:11.680 --> 1:58:16.839 So Penn Station was Terra Hate Indiana Okay where Indiana 1:58:16.880 --> 1:58:19.879 State is, And there was one right next to the stadium, 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:23.240 So I would hit it on the way home from practice. 1:58:23.560 --> 1:58:27.480 Fire Yeah, gasoline yeah, yea out of. 1:58:27.440 --> 1:58:28.280 Your top three. 1:58:28.520 --> 1:58:30.840 No, it could be I'm just thinking, but I'm just 1:58:31.520 --> 1:58:33.880 bey is Green Bay for me? Like if I want 1:58:33.920 --> 1:58:37.360 like a or a sandwich and soup? Yeah, I hit 1:58:37.400 --> 1:58:39.760 pop Elly's that's right next to the stadium. 1:58:39.880 --> 1:58:40.080 Yeah. 1:58:40.760 --> 1:58:43.360 I wouldn't put paneras like clubs. I think that that's 1:58:43.440 --> 1:58:48.360 more like a like a bougie yeah, just like you know, 1:58:48.520 --> 1:58:51.760 like breakfasts or quick something quick, or like the soups 1:58:51.800 --> 1:58:53.200 in the wintertime up in Green Bay. 1:58:53.240 --> 1:58:55.440 Have you ever had their front campbell soup? Have you ever 1:58:55.400 --> 1:58:58.960 read their front take? Have you ever had that? It's 1:58:59.000 --> 1:58:59.360 like a meal. 1:58:59.400 --> 1:59:01.560 I've said that a thousand times, their front take a 1:59:01.640 --> 1:59:04.520 chicken Yeah, and the same what you're talking about, like 1:59:04.560 --> 1:59:07.880 the panini. Yeah, it's called the front take a chicken. 1:59:07.920 --> 1:59:09.840 It's pretty I'd just probably just say can I have 1:59:09.840 --> 1:59:12.160 the chicken panini? Because I didn't know how to pronounce it? 1:59:12.720 --> 1:59:17.440 What's close? Kis Schlatsky's all right? Is fire? 1:59:17.560 --> 1:59:19.040 I remember I've only had it a few times in 1:59:19.040 --> 1:59:21.440 my life. I feel like the logo of that thank 1:59:21.480 --> 1:59:27.000 you Jack. What did you say? JV? 1:59:30.640 --> 1:59:33.960 Have you ever had room forty room four, room forty 1:59:34.000 --> 1:59:36.120 no room Forddy's nuts? 1:59:36.600 --> 1:59:36.880 Dude? 1:59:36.960 --> 1:59:38.400 How did I get got? Dude? 1:59:38.440 --> 1:59:41.240 I was really like I felt like there was like 1:59:41.280 --> 1:59:46.200 a dude, I'm usually I'm that ship. Oh my god, 1:59:46.240 --> 1:59:46.959 this isn't. 1:59:48.440 --> 1:59:52.200 Dude. My whole my whole reputation is about to be fucked. Dude. 1:59:54.520 --> 1:59:56.280 If you don't get GOT, you're known as the guy 1:59:56.280 --> 1:59:57.600 in your friend group that doesn't get you. 1:59:57.960 --> 2:00:00.480 We all do it to each other like like, but 2:00:00.880 --> 2:00:05.280 oh no, isn't there a restaurant that's really close to that, 2:00:05.520 --> 2:00:09.760 like something with the number fuck dude. I really am 2:00:09.760 --> 2:00:16.560 just trying to really just oh, I I feel like 2:00:16.600 --> 2:00:22.840 I've seen it well, like Quiz knows, Jimmy Johnson is 2:00:22.880 --> 2:00:26.280 like kind of like the the Taylor situation, Like I've 2:00:26.320 --> 2:00:28.880 just had it so many times in like different areas, 2:00:28.880 --> 2:00:29.520 but it's not bad. 2:00:29.640 --> 2:00:31.720 Freak fast firehouse is gasoline. 2:00:31.720 --> 2:00:33.200 I had that for the first time in Frisco when 2:00:33.200 --> 2:00:35.560 I was free draft training, and they also have one 2:00:35.600 --> 2:00:39.200 in Green Bay, but I would take Okay, Jersey Mike's's 2:00:39.280 --> 2:00:39.840 gas too. 2:00:42.160 --> 2:00:43.840 You feel like you know what you got. I don't 2:00:43.840 --> 2:00:44.160 even know. 2:00:44.240 --> 2:00:49.120 This is hard because because I'm a super you will 2:00:49.160 --> 2:00:52.440 be judged right, and I really. 2:00:54.960 --> 2:00:58.480 Off topic. My Tier one A would be a homemade 2:00:58.480 --> 2:01:00.680 s ub just saying that. But we'll go, We'll play 2:01:00.720 --> 2:01:05.800 the game. Like there's nothing like a Sunday like growing up, 2:01:05.880 --> 2:01:08.440 like watching you know, football with your dad and like 2:01:08.520 --> 2:01:12.600 just having a nice cold cut sandwich from home, like 2:01:12.640 --> 2:01:17.360 a salami, throw some chips, just watching the game with 2:01:17.400 --> 2:01:19.320 some you know, Campbell's chunky soup. 2:01:24.440 --> 2:01:24.640 Dude. 2:01:24.680 --> 2:01:26.240 And then I had publics for the first time, like 2:01:26.680 --> 2:01:28.760 not not recently, but like the last couple of years 2:01:28.800 --> 2:01:29.560 when I moved here. 2:01:29.680 --> 2:01:35.160 So you put a hardcore on on what is subs? Yeah? 2:01:35.560 --> 2:01:42.240 Damn all right, the pot belly. Okay, I'm gonna just 2:01:42.240 --> 2:01:44.080 say my top three and then I'll put them in order. 2:01:44.080 --> 2:01:44.520 Can I do that? 2:01:45.720 --> 2:01:47.680 Yeah, but just to get them off my chest so 2:01:47.720 --> 2:01:52.440 I can eliminate. Okay, I'm gonna go Penn Station, pot 2:01:52.480 --> 2:01:54.320 Belly and Jersey Mics. 2:01:58.320 --> 2:02:07.800 Put him in order. And this is just talking the sandwich, 2:02:07.920 --> 2:02:08.440 nothing else. 2:02:09.440 --> 2:02:11.280 Yeah, I mean, if you want to throw some this 2:02:11.320 --> 2:02:14.040 is a hard one because there's not a variety in there. 2:02:14.680 --> 2:02:16.960 I think it's not just a sandwich, it's it's what 2:02:17.080 --> 2:02:23.520 the restaurant has to offer. Yeah, you're saying with pot 2:02:23.560 --> 2:02:25.920 Belly that my that's number one. Then it's not the 2:02:25.920 --> 2:02:28.840 best sandwich. It's just the best sandwich chain. So what 2:02:28.920 --> 2:02:29.840 do they have to offer? 2:02:30.040 --> 2:02:34.080 I like Jack, Yeah, he's good favor Yeah, get that 2:02:34.120 --> 2:02:39.560 stash too, Yeah, dirty good, dirty. Yeah. 2:02:39.600 --> 2:02:41.840 I'm gonna go with pot Belly number one because I'll 2:02:41.840 --> 2:02:42.240 tell you why. 2:02:42.240 --> 2:02:43.880 I'll tell you what I get. I get the start 2:02:43.920 --> 2:02:50.840 with number three. I'm sorry, dude, all right, damn all right. 2:02:50.840 --> 2:02:54.680 I'm gonna go Penn Station number three to your three 2:02:54.720 --> 2:02:59.600 Penn Station, and I get the Philly Cheese steak with 2:02:59.640 --> 2:03:01.720 Noma shroom, extra onions and peppers. 2:03:02.360 --> 2:03:04.800 Mushrooms. You're allergic to mushrooms? 2:03:04.880 --> 2:03:11.840 Yeah, fungus dude, Yeah, I wasn't breastfed, leave me alone. 2:03:16.600 --> 2:03:20.200 For formula fed. Shout out Bill Gates. 2:03:24.240 --> 2:03:26.320 Um, yeah, so I'm gonna go with that at the 2:03:26.360 --> 2:03:30.440 Tier three Jersey Mike's just like the variety of subs. 2:03:30.720 --> 2:03:33.480 They're like, you know, the meatball, then they also have 2:03:33.600 --> 2:03:36.480 a chicken Chipotle cheese steak there. I think are a 2:03:37.440 --> 2:03:41.080 bunch of phillies as well. The meatball sub goes crazy there. 2:03:41.240 --> 2:03:44.640 I think there's just like such a variety of there's 2:03:44.720 --> 2:03:49.080 buffalo chicken ranch, you know one there. I think that's 2:03:49.120 --> 2:03:52.240 just the variety. I'm gonna go Tier two there. And 2:03:52.280 --> 2:03:58.600 then number one is pot Belly because the Italian with 2:03:59.040 --> 2:04:05.240 double meat us and no pause, double meat on the 2:04:05.280 --> 2:04:08.959 Italian with broccoli cheddar soup. 2:04:10.280 --> 2:04:20.839 And and I'm dunking that hoe and that's a good soup. Yeah. 2:04:20.880 --> 2:04:25.200 And then yeah, that's the Populay's number one, just solely 2:04:25.240 --> 2:04:26.920 based on my orders. 2:04:28.120 --> 2:04:33.040 Let's hear it. Let's hear you, man. I put some 2:04:33.040 --> 2:04:34.200 thought into this voice. 2:04:34.600 --> 2:04:36.640 And this was on the spot too, so let's hear 2:04:36.680 --> 2:04:39.440 about yours. You thought about this for a week and 2:04:39.440 --> 2:04:43.040 we got beat back here. No no, no, we came 2:04:43.120 --> 2:04:45.400 up with this today. Okay, so you've had you know, 2:04:45.440 --> 2:04:46.880 a couple of hours you could have shot me at 2:04:46.960 --> 2:04:49.240 text I could have That is on me. 2:04:49.360 --> 2:04:49.840 That is on me. 2:04:49.920 --> 2:04:51.480 We did tell you before the pot started. So you've 2:04:51.520 --> 2:04:52.560 had like an hour and a half now. 2:04:52.640 --> 2:04:52.800 Yeah. 2:04:52.800 --> 2:04:54.080 But I was talking about you know, I was getting 2:04:54.120 --> 2:04:56.320 deep into like internal stuff. You can't be I can't 2:04:56.320 --> 2:04:59.320 be thinking about it thinking about sandwiches when I'm talking 2:04:59.320 --> 2:05:00.040 about grow. 2:05:00.160 --> 2:05:01.840 Be most clear now, you know what I mean. You 2:05:01.880 --> 2:05:03.760 should have that clarity, bro, I'm hungry? 2:05:03.760 --> 2:05:06.360 Am I stopping you? Pop? Ellyst so my numbers around 2:05:07.080 --> 2:05:07.560 my bellies? 2:05:07.560 --> 2:05:10.240 Oh yeah, there's a probably around here though, Yeah in 2:05:10.280 --> 2:05:12.440 the gulch, say less I there. 2:05:13.600 --> 2:05:18.520 Go ahead, proceed all right? So public smacks though, dude, 2:05:19.120 --> 2:05:20.040 So publics. 2:05:20.520 --> 2:05:22.520 There's been a lot of good jedder about publics. The 2:05:22.520 --> 2:05:25.240 boys in the back they talk it publics up high, 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:28.160 like I am not from this world since I haven't 2:05:28.160 --> 2:05:28.640 had publics. 2:05:28.640 --> 2:05:30.800 I've had at one time and again it was after 2:05:30.840 --> 2:05:31.360 the case race. 2:05:31.400 --> 2:05:32.960 You saw the apple juice sitting out there, like I 2:05:32.960 --> 2:05:36.840 bought apple juice and I bought yeah, a public sub, 2:05:36.880 --> 2:05:40.080 a pub sub. But I didn't put thought into it. 2:05:40.120 --> 2:05:41.800 I just needed something in my stomach because I was 2:05:41.840 --> 2:05:43.400 on the version of throwing up. So I just needed 2:05:43.440 --> 2:05:47.520 something in my belly. So I have not experienced publics 2:05:47.600 --> 2:05:50.080 like that. I've seen it on the charts. There's rankings 2:05:50.080 --> 2:05:52.800 out there, there's articles that has pub sub like top 2:05:52.880 --> 2:05:54.760 three and a lot of different stuff, a lot of 2:05:54.800 --> 2:06:03.680 different headlines. But for me, uh, I do want to 2:06:03.680 --> 2:06:06.400 give a shout out to Firehouse Subs before I start. 2:06:06.680 --> 2:06:09.440 That's gonna be honorable mention. Yeah, that is my honorable mention. Yeah, 2:06:09.440 --> 2:06:11.240 that's what that was number four for me. Matter of fact, 2:06:11.280 --> 2:06:16.560 can we get a moment of silence for Firehouse Subs? 2:06:17.160 --> 2:06:19.880 Thank you? Okay? Can I say one thing? Go ahead? 2:06:20.080 --> 2:06:23.600 Back to like the Penn Station Tier three? Why the 2:06:23.600 --> 2:06:28.880 the length pause? Again, it doesn't matter, doubt you can get. 2:06:28.960 --> 2:06:30.920 I think that goes up to like past. I think 2:06:30.960 --> 2:06:35.680 there's sixteen inches, like I think they get you get 2:06:35.720 --> 2:06:38.280 like you know, the bang for your buck like you Yeah, 2:06:38.320 --> 2:06:40.480 and their fries are good on Sundays. 2:06:40.480 --> 2:06:42.760 In my college town in Knoxville, I swear this is 2:06:42.800 --> 2:06:45.200 why pen Station closed down. But you could buy one, 2:06:45.360 --> 2:06:47.560 get one free on Sundays. 2:06:47.560 --> 2:06:49.280 So right, the twelve inch and you get a free 2:06:49.280 --> 2:06:50.960 twelve inch selve. You're set for the whole. 2:06:50.840 --> 2:06:54.240 Day, right, it was the best on Sundays, yes, and 2:06:54.280 --> 2:06:56.120 then the fries were incredible. 2:06:56.120 --> 2:06:57.800 I never had Penn Station. I would love to try it. 2:06:57.840 --> 2:06:59.440 Based on the way you guys were talking about East 2:06:59.440 --> 2:07:03.040 Coast sub. Okay, but I'm really good. I feel good 2:07:03.040 --> 2:07:05.200 about my list now. I wanted to give my shout 2:07:05.200 --> 2:07:07.600 out to Firehouse subs no for shotouts, of course, because 2:07:07.640 --> 2:07:08.600 I do love Firehouse. 2:07:08.640 --> 2:07:09.280 I think they have a. 2:07:09.200 --> 2:07:14.240 Banger uh not the hook and Ladder. Maybe it's just 2:07:14.280 --> 2:07:18.960 called the Firehouse. It's like ham turkey, roast beefs add 2:07:18.960 --> 2:07:21.080 bacon to it, get the works, put on it, all 2:07:21.120 --> 2:07:22.120 the stuff. 2:07:22.160 --> 2:07:24.960 You would be a roast beef guy. 2:07:25.120 --> 2:07:26.920 I think roast beef just comes on the sandwich. Maybe 2:07:26.920 --> 2:07:30.080 it doesn't have roast beef. Roast beef is probably definitely 2:07:30.200 --> 2:07:32.560 the lowest on the deli meats for sure, but that's 2:07:32.560 --> 2:07:35.160 just what comes on that sandwich. And then they have 2:07:35.240 --> 2:07:39.440 all the all the hot sauces to choose from. But 2:07:39.720 --> 2:07:41.840 my Tier three, I've been going back and forth on 2:07:41.880 --> 2:07:44.320 this because I think this is people get you. People 2:07:44.480 --> 2:07:46.680 fucking out to get you, depending on how low some 2:07:46.720 --> 2:07:48.200 of your tears are, that like, oh, that should be 2:07:48.200 --> 2:07:49.840 your fucking tier one. Then I would have went with you. 2:07:49.880 --> 2:07:52.360 And it's like, listen, we're trying to rate the greatest sandwiches. 2:07:52.400 --> 2:07:54.919 You don't need external validation. It's all internal. 2:07:55.000 --> 2:07:57.440 You're right, But doing a podcast and living on Twitter, 2:07:57.560 --> 2:08:01.879 you kinda I'm trying to get to a million followers. 2:08:01.920 --> 2:08:08.200 So but my tier three, I'm gonna go with Jimmy 2:08:08.280 --> 2:08:11.880 Johns for a cold sub. I'm going to Jimmy John's 2:08:11.880 --> 2:08:13.120 freaky fast, freaking good. 2:08:13.120 --> 2:08:16.120 Their bread. I love their bread, I love how fool. 2:08:16.960 --> 2:08:20.640 I love how full their sandwiches for real, I love 2:08:20.680 --> 2:08:21.760 how full their sandwiches. 2:08:22.280 --> 2:08:25.280 The Mayo that oh I got that one time. 2:08:26.040 --> 2:08:29.320 Well, I'm like, all about the Italian nightclub. Italian nightclub. 2:08:29.960 --> 2:08:31.840 Is there a country club as well? 2:08:33.000 --> 2:08:35.839 Yes, and I think it might be the Italian Nightclub 2:08:35.840 --> 2:08:37.600 at Bacon or one of those at Bacon. 2:08:37.640 --> 2:08:40.400 The country club might already have bacon. But the way those. 2:08:40.200 --> 2:08:42.240 Things fit in your hand, and the Mayo that they 2:08:42.440 --> 2:08:44.080 swab all over the bread. 2:08:44.800 --> 2:08:46.640 Dude, dude, he definitely thought about this. 2:08:47.640 --> 2:08:49.040 Yeah, well, how do you not? You see all the 2:08:49.040 --> 2:08:50.960 Mayo they they like their mascot is Mayo. 2:08:51.160 --> 2:08:55.040 No, I'm talking about your presentation. Of that. No, you 2:08:56.560 --> 2:08:59.560 got mayo around the rim, you got me. I love 2:08:59.560 --> 2:09:03.880 the the Jimmy windows with the foot long and everything 2:09:03.920 --> 2:09:04.120 like that. 2:09:04.160 --> 2:09:06.480 I was like, what I do love about Jimmy Johnson 2:09:06.560 --> 2:09:08.040 is how packed in it is, you know what? 2:09:08.120 --> 2:09:10.200 You know what I mean, especially for a cold sub 2:09:10.240 --> 2:09:12.600 There's no other really cool sub Johns Bread and Mao 2:09:12.680 --> 2:09:13.920 alone is yes. 2:09:14.320 --> 2:09:16.520 Because all the other spots, like I'm usually getting like 2:09:16.520 --> 2:09:22.040 a toasted sandwich, My Tier two is gonna be. I'm 2:09:22.080 --> 2:09:25.160 sticking to my roots. I'm sticking old faithful. It's never 2:09:25.240 --> 2:09:32.480 let me down high growing up, school, college on this 2:09:32.600 --> 2:09:34.560 sandwich at any point of your life. 2:09:35.160 --> 2:09:43.360 No, you can, dude, Subway fresh fresh people are probably 2:09:43.360 --> 2:09:43.880 gonna drag. 2:09:43.920 --> 2:09:47.600 But people are probably gonna drag. 2:09:47.760 --> 2:09:50.280 However, they're forgetting how they grew up. 2:09:51.000 --> 2:09:53.960 They're forgetting how they grew up because you get like 2:09:54.600 --> 2:09:57.080 picking sandwich from there, chicken bacon Ranch, to know what 2:09:57.120 --> 2:09:58.960 I grew up on, meat onion, chicken terry. 2:09:59.080 --> 2:10:00.240 Yeah, you got that. You had the home mad and 2:10:00.280 --> 2:10:01.200 you had the little local spot. 2:10:01.320 --> 2:10:04.720 No, no, no, I'm talking about from Subway. I was 2:10:04.760 --> 2:10:08.760 really eating that tuna. No way, that ship was gasoline. 2:10:08.840 --> 2:10:11.160 But they just realized that or they just came about 2:10:11.160 --> 2:10:13.120 that there was zero tuna DNA in that. 2:10:13.680 --> 2:10:16.040 Yeah, this sh it's tough. I'm built different, I know 2:10:16.080 --> 2:10:16.560 it's tough. 2:10:16.880 --> 2:10:21.960 Yeah, but this sweet onion very yacky bacon. Get the 2:10:21.960 --> 2:10:24.839 banana peppers, get the onions, throw a party with the onions. 2:10:24.840 --> 2:10:28.760 Don't be shy. Obviously the sweet onion. Saw some honey 2:10:28.840 --> 2:10:31.280 mustard and I usually put it on what. 2:10:30.960 --> 2:10:35.080 What is it? The uh the honey honey bread, honey 2:10:35.440 --> 2:10:37.520 honey out or honey yea, yeah, the honey oot bread 2:10:37.560 --> 2:10:39.120 is usually why I get it. Am I really not 2:10:39.120 --> 2:10:39.480 getting that? 2:10:39.520 --> 2:10:44.960 Italian urban urban cheese? Urban cheese is fire as wells 2:10:45.000 --> 2:10:47.280 alone there. But you know when you're you know, when 2:10:47.280 --> 2:10:48.960 you're a young cat and you want everything sweet. I'm 2:10:48.960 --> 2:10:50.680 talking about to get a sweet team, drop two sweet 2:10:50.720 --> 2:10:52.440 loads in it. So that's why I would get the 2:10:52.440 --> 2:10:55.240 honey oo bread foot long on sub boy sweet onion 2:10:55.360 --> 2:10:59.440 chicken chicken Kerioki. Also don't sleep on their fucking cookie 2:10:59.480 --> 2:11:03.480 experience boys O boy cookies or fire that Macadamian nut 2:11:03.560 --> 2:11:06.760 chocolate chip. Pick your poison their chips. Fire They got 2:11:06.800 --> 2:11:13.560 the lays, They got everything you need. Yeah, my Tier 2:11:13.600 --> 2:11:17.200 one dude, you just had a great taste for subway, right. 2:11:17.760 --> 2:11:20.480 It's just I forgot where I came from exactly. And 2:11:20.520 --> 2:11:23.360 I do think people that are gonna drag me. People 2:11:23.440 --> 2:11:25.720 that are going to drag me, they're gonna just because 2:11:25.720 --> 2:11:28.080 I get it. We've gotten older. I thought subway was 2:11:28.080 --> 2:11:30.200 like the best subway spot. Then I go to college. 2:11:30.240 --> 2:11:32.320 I learned about Jimmy John's, I learned about all these 2:11:32.360 --> 2:11:36.600 other places quiz Nose, Firehouse, Pop Belly, and You're just like, 2:11:36.600 --> 2:11:39.560 oh shit, Subway's really not like that. It's kind of 2:11:39.600 --> 2:11:42.720 like the Walmart of sandwiches. You can count on it, 2:11:42.800 --> 2:11:45.480 lowest prices guaranteed, and there's a little bit of everything 2:11:45.520 --> 2:11:46.240 for everyone there. 2:11:46.360 --> 2:11:49.280 You should run for president, you really, you really just 2:11:49.480 --> 2:11:51.640 made me believe subway was good for a little bit. 2:11:52.240 --> 2:11:57.440 It's fire right, No, my tier one. 2:11:59.400 --> 2:12:01.280 If all of these spots are lined up next to 2:12:01.320 --> 2:12:04.040 each other and I'm choosing a spot, gun to my 2:12:04.120 --> 2:12:07.640 fucking head, Hot belly sandwich, Yeah, okay, I'm getting the 2:12:08.040 --> 2:12:10.000 I'm getting the big don't you know what they call them? 2:12:10.000 --> 2:12:12.520 The Big? Yeah, the Big? 2:12:12.840 --> 2:12:15.440 You get the Big, You get the double meat chicken 2:12:15.440 --> 2:12:19.120 bacon ranch. Uh, fully fucking loaded. I want all of it. 2:12:19.160 --> 2:12:21.480 I want the hot peppers, I want the sauces, you 2:12:21.520 --> 2:12:21.840 want it. 2:12:22.360 --> 2:12:24.760 I want it all, and you're right, the uh the uh, 2:12:25.280 --> 2:12:27.640 the broccoli cheddar soup is a fucking money man. You 2:12:27.680 --> 2:12:29.400 get the little oyster crackers that come with it. They 2:12:29.440 --> 2:12:31.520 give you a little bag. Yeah, and there in their 2:12:31.520 --> 2:12:32.960 bad and I like the vibe when you go in 2:12:33.000 --> 2:12:34.960 there too. It's kind of dark, dude. 2:12:34.960 --> 2:12:37.120 And they got a pizza sub there that's good too, 2:12:37.240 --> 2:12:39.600 like they got you know, the meat they got. I 2:12:39.760 --> 2:12:42.920 just I'm solely just thinking Italian subs when I go 2:12:42.960 --> 2:12:43.480 in there. 2:12:43.400 --> 2:12:46.680 And they load it up, bro like you, but they're 2:12:46.720 --> 2:12:50.720 fucking like Yeah, it's like the Gerganchu one. So pop 2:12:50.760 --> 2:12:53.040 Belly Pop Belly is my tier one and that is 2:12:53.120 --> 2:12:57.800 my uh my tear talk for best sandwich chains nationally. 2:13:02.360 --> 2:13:04.080 Fellas comments concerns. 2:13:05.120 --> 2:13:09.240 Can we hear some we need a third person's your party? 2:13:09.520 --> 2:13:11.240 Third party? 2:13:11.440 --> 2:13:15.720 Yeah, I got you, big dog, I'll hit it. 2:13:15.960 --> 2:13:16.160 Yeah. 2:13:16.160 --> 2:13:18.240 I love subs. I mean I think they're the most 2:13:18.280 --> 2:13:20.520 to lead. Probably lunch meal. I don't even put it 2:13:20.560 --> 2:13:23.120 in the best meal in general, but I know, talk 2:13:23.160 --> 2:13:25.120 to him Jack, that will take you know. 2:13:25.160 --> 2:13:27.600 I might get drugs if you're with us boys. Yes, 2:13:28.000 --> 2:13:30.840 subs were just it's easy. We have all grown up 2:13:30.840 --> 2:13:33.000 having them. If I have to go. 2:13:33.120 --> 2:13:40.360 Tier three, honorable mention, I'm gonna go Jimmy Johns just 2:13:40.360 --> 2:13:41.520 because it's freaky fast. 2:13:41.520 --> 2:13:44.160 It's easy. If you're on the run. You see Jimmy Johns. 2:13:44.200 --> 2:13:45.760 You're running through there. 2:13:47.320 --> 2:13:49.720 Jimmy Johns in college, in and out in five minutes, 2:13:50.800 --> 2:13:51.839 cloud deep. 2:13:54.320 --> 2:13:55.640 Road deep in the sub. 2:13:57.760 --> 2:14:01.080 Tier three For me, though, what didn't even mention even 2:14:01.120 --> 2:14:03.760 in conversation with all but is witch Witch? 2:14:03.840 --> 2:14:04.080 For me? 2:14:04.520 --> 2:14:06.920 Never had it. That's why I never heard of it either. 2:14:07.800 --> 2:14:09.600 Which witch they closed down? 2:14:09.640 --> 2:14:14.400 The one j that ain't valid. 2:14:17.600 --> 2:14:20.440 Yeah, this is witch Witch. You like, go in, you 2:14:20.480 --> 2:14:21.200 get like a h. 2:14:22.680 --> 2:14:26.800 It's like this, and they got all the stuff on 2:14:26.880 --> 2:14:28.560 it and you just kind of mark it with a sharpie. 2:14:28.640 --> 2:14:30.680 Anyways, I really enjoyed a witch Witch. 2:14:30.680 --> 2:14:32.480 Market with a sharpie. I think everybody does that. 2:14:32.720 --> 2:14:34.760 No, you like go in and like you write your 2:14:34.920 --> 2:14:35.480 order down. 2:14:37.440 --> 2:14:43.240 That's a fun experience. Yeah, fun experience experience. Yeah, man, 2:14:43.320 --> 2:14:49.320 you get creative with that and they yell it easily. 2:14:49.560 --> 2:14:52.440 I like a good Witchwitch sub a while. So I 2:14:52.440 --> 2:14:54.640 don't know if that's part of the reason it's just 2:14:54.680 --> 2:14:57.640 in my brain. Number two for me is going to 2:14:57.720 --> 2:15:02.400 be the pub sub. From a cost perspective, it's it's 2:15:02.440 --> 2:15:06.600 so cheap for so much food. Love the Italian a 2:15:06.800 --> 2:15:09.840 hallowed sub. There is the chicken tinder sub. You have 2:15:09.920 --> 2:15:12.560 to be tossing some buffalo if you're into that kind 2:15:12.600 --> 2:15:14.360 of thing. They they do it. 2:15:14.360 --> 2:15:17.680 It's quality, fresh bread every day. So love a good 2:15:17.680 --> 2:15:18.240 pub sub. 2:15:18.400 --> 2:15:20.600 And for me, Tier one is gonna have to be 2:15:20.680 --> 2:15:23.360 Jersey Mikes because it's something I grew up with, kind 2:15:23.360 --> 2:15:25.960 of like your subway, which I also grew up the subway, 2:15:25.960 --> 2:15:29.080 and the subway smell alone as a kid, would sell you. 2:15:29.080 --> 2:15:31.680 You walk in there and you're like, some it's a drug. 2:15:31.720 --> 2:15:32.320 It's something. 2:15:32.880 --> 2:15:35.360 Subway, though, is not on my list, not even close, 2:15:35.400 --> 2:15:37.880 even though I'd had it two weeks ago. I don't Jared, 2:15:38.000 --> 2:15:41.440 but number one, Jared, Yeah, that's a whole nother. 2:15:41.680 --> 2:15:43.000 Yeah we can get into lay. 2:15:43.000 --> 2:15:44.720 Hey, why not even close? Can we talk about that? 2:15:44.760 --> 2:15:45.400 Can we dive in? 2:15:45.960 --> 2:15:47.600 I think it was one of those things as a kid. 2:15:47.640 --> 2:15:48.640 It was so good. 2:15:49.080 --> 2:15:51.240 It was like Mom's like, yeah, we're gonna get Subway. 2:15:51.280 --> 2:15:52.600 It's like you go in there just for a smell. 2:15:52.680 --> 2:15:55.080 It was amazing, and then as you grew up, it 2:15:55.160 --> 2:15:57.720 was almost like, uh, I thought lungs on Tuesdays. But 2:15:57.800 --> 2:16:00.520 the thing is now there's no they They like dollars 2:16:00.680 --> 2:16:03.240 you and get a foot long sub but subway you 2:16:03.480 --> 2:16:06.000 keep a drink. You're coming out of there, like twelve dollars. 2:16:06.080 --> 2:16:08.120 It's like back in the day, I get almost you know, 2:16:08.160 --> 2:16:10.200 two and a half subs for this, like what happened? 2:16:10.440 --> 2:16:14.480 Yeah, boy, prices went up until and hit hard. 2:16:14.680 --> 2:16:18.160 Yeah all time. I but I don't know sub boys. 2:16:18.240 --> 2:16:20.680 Like it's like when you rewatch a movie when you 2:16:20.720 --> 2:16:23.360 were a kid that used to love and you're also like, yo, 2:16:23.440 --> 2:16:26.400 this movie's ass, Like it does not hold up over time, 2:16:26.920 --> 2:16:29.360 like it's just not there anymore, but like you still 2:16:29.400 --> 2:16:32.440 appreciate it for what you had as a childhood. 2:16:32.720 --> 2:16:35.200 Yeah, it's like, damn, what a what a movie? 2:16:35.760 --> 2:16:37.720 If you watch and you're like, man, like if I 2:16:37.760 --> 2:16:39.640 was a kid and there's like a grown man dresses 2:16:39.680 --> 2:16:41.720 a clown trying to steal my dog, like me and 2:16:41.760 --> 2:16:44.360 my homie's just gonna beat this dude's ass, Like the 2:16:44.440 --> 2:16:47.440 story doesn't hold up, but over time, yeah, appreciate it 2:16:47.520 --> 2:16:51.280 for what it was Anyways, fact to number one Jersey 2:16:51.320 --> 2:16:55.200 Mike's great selection of subs, quality ingredients. I love their 2:16:55.240 --> 2:16:59.480 breads and never like stale, and it's never too soft. 2:16:59.520 --> 2:17:02.480 It's like right during that equally rium of perfect bread 2:17:02.520 --> 2:17:05.520 to me. So yeah, I don't know subs in general, 2:17:05.760 --> 2:17:06.920 I'll eat all of them. 2:17:07.080 --> 2:17:07.520 I wish I. 2:17:07.480 --> 2:17:09.360 Could put pop Belly in mine, but I just haven't 2:17:09.400 --> 2:17:12.200 had as much experience with pop Belly. I've only had 2:17:12.200 --> 2:17:14.480 it like two or three times, So I can't with 2:17:14.600 --> 2:17:16.920 a clean conscious put that in there because it's just 2:17:17.520 --> 2:17:18.400 not my sub. 2:17:18.480 --> 2:17:20.080 But I think I might go get it later. 2:17:20.200 --> 2:17:21.720 Yeah, that's what I was thinking about doing with public, 2:17:21.760 --> 2:17:23.200 So I'm like everybody in the back would know I'm 2:17:23.280 --> 2:17:25.400 kind of fraudulent by claiming pubs up. 2:17:25.480 --> 2:17:27.520 The only the only issue with pub subs is you 2:17:27.560 --> 2:17:30.320 have to go into a grocery store and it just 2:17:30.440 --> 2:17:33.640 kind of the line can be long. It takes you know, 2:17:34.120 --> 2:17:36.520 it takes away from the experience almost Someone's like next, 2:17:36.600 --> 2:17:39.520 You're like, yo, can I get a pound of salami? 2:17:39.560 --> 2:17:40.920 And it's like, I'm just trying to get this sub 2:17:40.959 --> 2:17:42.480 in there either. Yeah, you got a. 2:17:42.480 --> 2:17:45.119 Holler a guy good, Like when you're going grocery shopping there, 2:17:45.160 --> 2:17:46.720 and then you're like, I'm just gonna go sub. 2:17:46.480 --> 2:17:49.120 On the way out so you don't eat your groceries already. 2:17:49.400 --> 2:17:52.000 Sure, yeah you can go for a two for one 2:17:52.040 --> 2:17:52.680 that it's money. 2:17:52.680 --> 2:17:54.720 But what I do appreciate about this to your talk 2:17:54.800 --> 2:17:57.760 and conversation is just that everybody's paying homage to fucking 2:17:57.800 --> 2:17:59.959 every brand out there because. 2:18:00.560 --> 2:18:04.600 No negativity, dude, negativity, no negative vibes. 2:18:04.640 --> 2:18:08.080 Boys, But Jack, I like, I definitely understand that angle 2:18:08.120 --> 2:18:10.560 of subway. It's like, now that I'm thirty two, I 2:18:10.680 --> 2:18:14.080 rarely go into a subway, but I would feel I 2:18:14.080 --> 2:18:16.400 don't know, I think my younger self would not be 2:18:16.400 --> 2:18:18.360 proud of the man I am today if I didn't 2:18:18.360 --> 2:18:20.640 like pay how much the subway, what it did for 2:18:20.760 --> 2:18:21.520 my life growing up. 2:18:21.560 --> 2:18:24.199 And I got subway two weeks not even two weeks ago. 2:18:24.240 --> 2:18:25.360 What did you get? What'd you get? 2:18:25.440 --> 2:18:29.600 I got the uh the spicy Italian. 2:18:29.600 --> 2:18:30.280 It's a good one. 2:18:30.680 --> 2:18:34.520 There's some spinach, red onion, jalapenos, banana, pepper's. 2:18:34.200 --> 2:18:35.160 Little uh sach. 2:18:36.040 --> 2:18:39.040 There's zero lettuce are green, there's plant touching. 2:18:39.080 --> 2:18:42.680 The boy got rid of spicy mustard on their sauce menu. 2:18:42.959 --> 2:18:45.959 The boy deleted spicy mustard, which to me that was 2:18:46.240 --> 2:18:49.080 that was the falling point, is when everything just went downhill. 2:18:50.080 --> 2:18:50.880 I have disagree. 2:18:50.920 --> 2:18:52.959 I think spicy mustard isn't even in the top three 2:18:53.000 --> 2:18:54.080 sauce at their spot. 2:18:53.840 --> 2:18:57.680 Okay, can I go Yeah, yeah, I would judge a 2:18:57.720 --> 2:19:00.360 place by their mustard. Mustard is like the best mondament 2:19:00.520 --> 2:19:03.240 for me. That's a good condiment to love. Yeah, like 2:19:03.400 --> 2:19:06.160 a mustard, I think sean honey, spicy. 2:19:07.120 --> 2:19:09.360 Yeah, that's the German in me though. I just love 2:19:09.440 --> 2:19:11.000 like the grainy mustard. 2:19:10.720 --> 2:19:13.440 Too, like I'm German as well. You just scooped the 2:19:13.680 --> 2:19:20.520 soft pressed German German just scooping thinking like a quarter 2:19:20.520 --> 2:19:22.520 and a half of it was a great combo though. 2:19:22.600 --> 2:19:27.039 But over Mayo, hands down, He's right. I disagree. I 2:19:27.040 --> 2:19:27.520 think Mayo. 2:19:28.680 --> 2:19:36.320 Dude, name is Mayo. That's why you like it? Need 2:19:36.400 --> 2:19:36.720 to Mayo. 2:19:36.760 --> 2:19:38.120 Get a little bit on your lip when you get 2:19:38.160 --> 2:19:41.960 done eating so out you got a little bit right there, 2:19:41.959 --> 2:19:43.080 like I'm not doing my sandwich. 2:19:43.080 --> 2:19:44.280 You yeah, scoop it. 2:19:45.160 --> 2:19:48.960 Hey the honey mustard, the sweet onion sauce, yeah, ran yeah, 2:19:49.000 --> 2:19:53.400 I mean, come on, sweet onion sauce is gas Okay. 2:19:57.240 --> 2:19:58.720 Hey shout out sandwiches for real. 2:19:58.760 --> 2:20:02.640 I'll be interested to see what Taylor's tears are outside 2:20:02.640 --> 2:20:04.000 of a tier one we noticed here one is We're 2:20:04.000 --> 2:20:05.480 not gonna say it because it's gonna be his moment. 2:20:06.400 --> 2:20:11.879 Uh, but he's got What. 2:20:11.879 --> 2:20:12.400 Else do we have? 2:20:12.520 --> 2:20:12.680 We have? 2:20:12.680 --> 2:20:12.960 Anything? 2:20:12.959 --> 2:20:13.040 I have? 2:20:13.080 --> 2:20:15.000 I'm missed anything. It's been an hour forty nine. Boys, 2:20:15.000 --> 2:20:18.840 we've had a great fucking time. Did we not, oh 2:20:19.240 --> 2:20:20.959 divine to Adam? Did we know he was gonna leave 2:20:20.959 --> 2:20:21.440 the whole time? 2:20:23.000 --> 2:20:24.640 Come on, dude, I can't say anything. 2:20:24.680 --> 2:20:27.960 Okay, So that means yes, we got we needed. Everybody 2:20:27.959 --> 2:20:31.280 goes subscribe anything else. 2:20:31.600 --> 2:20:35.080 I'm happy for him that he got everything that he deserves. 2:20:35.280 --> 2:20:40.920 He's happy, his family's growing. That dude deserves everything that 2:20:40.959 --> 2:20:42.480 he wants and wherever he wants to go. 2:20:42.720 --> 2:20:47.320 I'll say that what that was well said? H What 2:20:47.400 --> 2:20:52.720 did h Foster Morrow say? Was his nickname? Is that 2:20:52.760 --> 2:20:54.240 his nickname? Vont? No? 2:20:55.280 --> 2:20:57.840 You never called him vont never. I'm hearing that's what 2:20:57.879 --> 2:20:59.320 he's That's what the boys. 2:21:00.240 --> 2:21:03.880 If he switched. Maybe it's just different. Maybe he's different. 2:21:04.480 --> 2:21:04.800 I don't know. 2:21:04.840 --> 2:21:08.040 That's what I'm hearing. That's the rumor out of Vegas. 2:21:10.200 --> 2:21:17.200 Maybe Uh, but all right, do we need to get 2:21:17.200 --> 2:21:18.920 a top five tight end ranking out of him? I 2:21:18.959 --> 2:21:21.760 mean I feel like we already have that by people 2:21:22.480 --> 2:21:25.400 not from him. Here to show your top hurt your. 2:21:25.240 --> 2:21:30.040 Top, I will yeah, I was gonna say, I will 2:21:30.240 --> 2:21:34.600 give you because everyone's good and rankings really don't mean ship, 2:21:34.720 --> 2:21:36.160 especially coming from anyone. 2:21:36.280 --> 2:21:38.720 That's what the boys. Rankings mean everything. So we put 2:21:38.760 --> 2:21:40.359 our list out there. It's fucking bible. 2:21:40.720 --> 2:21:43.680 I will say, this are five tight ends that I watch, Like, 2:21:43.760 --> 2:21:45.720 these are like the five guys games that. 2:21:45.720 --> 2:21:47.640 I study for like my benefit. 2:21:53.200 --> 2:21:55.160 I mean, obviously you know you self study, so I'll 2:21:55.160 --> 2:21:57.320 take myself out of the top five for the list 2:21:58.560 --> 2:21:59.160 I will go. 2:21:59.800 --> 2:22:11.200 I mean g Trav d Wall, I'm just looking at 2:22:11.240 --> 2:22:16.039 like in my iPad. I mean I love Skit. I 2:22:16.080 --> 2:22:20.800 mean I study Mark. I mean I study sadies too. 2:22:20.840 --> 2:22:22.640 Like those are the five like people that I just 2:22:22.800 --> 2:22:25.840 truly study, like study study. 2:22:25.959 --> 2:22:30.760 All Right, Andrews from Baltimore study He wasn't at tight 2:22:30.840 --> 2:22:31.119 in you. 2:22:31.280 --> 2:22:32.240 Was he not? This year? 2:22:32.360 --> 2:22:34.720 No am I missing anyone off the top of my 2:22:34.760 --> 2:22:37.280 head that like, I mean, I also study TJ. 2:22:37.400 --> 2:22:40.480 Because damn, but I studied t J. I was ready 2:22:40.480 --> 2:22:41.760 for him. Be like, no, you know, hey, that was 2:22:41.760 --> 2:22:43.640 a great episode. Hey, teach that sucks. 2:22:44.560 --> 2:22:47.000 So the the people that I study the most are 2:22:47.240 --> 2:22:50.520 George and TJ. Because I know mentally what they're thinking. 2:22:51.520 --> 2:22:53.760 Oh god, you know what I'm saying. Because I know them. 2:22:53.920 --> 2:22:56.920 I'm close with them, so I know like what they're seeing, 2:22:57.800 --> 2:22:59.840 what they're thinking, YadA, YadA. And that's why I like, 2:22:59.879 --> 2:23:02.960 it's so easy for me to study George because I mean, 2:23:03.000 --> 2:23:05.120 we have again one brain half and a half. 2:23:06.000 --> 2:23:06.760 Just figure it out. 2:23:06.879 --> 2:23:11.320 Yeah, but I would Yeah, so other than Sadie's like, 2:23:11.360 --> 2:23:13.720 I just studied Sades blocking obviously, so I would go. 2:23:13.920 --> 2:23:18.760 The people that I study George, trev Mark d wall In, TJ. 2:23:18.879 --> 2:23:21.480 No particular order, all right, and do not put an order. 2:23:21.800 --> 2:23:23.360 We well use the first one that he said with 2:23:23.480 --> 2:23:25.200 TJ out of it, and then we'll tag t. 2:23:27.160 --> 2:23:29.240 I literally just saw him as we're leaving PT. He's like, 2:23:29.240 --> 2:23:32.640 oh you got busting l hell yeah, right over my head. 2:23:33.600 --> 2:23:35.959 He's got a he's coming on Thursday. Yeah that's what 2:23:36.000 --> 2:23:39.000 you're saying. What are we gonna ask TJ? Is you 2:23:39.120 --> 2:23:42.360 anything we should ask him? I can't wait. He's just 2:23:42.480 --> 2:23:45.959 such a sweetheart, dude. Yes, I love. It's just a 2:23:46.000 --> 2:23:46.640 great dude. 2:23:47.200 --> 2:23:48.879 I appreciate you for coming on though, bro, Like I 2:23:48.920 --> 2:23:51.240 always like, uh, Like I said this earlier in the pod, 2:23:51.280 --> 2:23:53.800 but I always appreciate like your perspective on everything. 2:23:53.840 --> 2:23:55.040 Because we had that pod last year. 2:23:55.120 --> 2:23:58.240 I remember leaving, like driving home and telling my wife 2:23:58.240 --> 2:24:00.520 and stuff like yo. I just I really enjoyed being 2:24:00.560 --> 2:24:02.120 around like George and Rob. It was my first time 2:24:02.200 --> 2:24:04.600 meeting you. I was like, just have like vibes to 2:24:04.640 --> 2:24:06.920 where it's the environment you want to be around, especially 2:24:06.920 --> 2:24:09.560 if you're training and like doing everything else. I thought, 2:24:09.600 --> 2:24:11.400 like what you guys have done kind of in Nashville, 2:24:11.440 --> 2:24:13.480 putting a little squad together and everything else. 2:24:14.560 --> 2:24:17.600 I think it's fucking awesome like something that I. 2:24:17.080 --> 2:24:18.680 Not that I didn't have it, but you're like, man, 2:24:18.720 --> 2:24:20.840 that would have been cool to like have like linebackers 2:24:20.879 --> 2:24:22.440 like that, the way you guys are with your tight 2:24:22.560 --> 2:24:25.280 ends and then you turn your acl and kind of 2:24:25.280 --> 2:24:27.200 text me to you a couple of times and just 2:24:27.240 --> 2:24:28.560 catching up with you every now and then. I've just 2:24:28.560 --> 2:24:32.480 always appreciated your kind of like perspective and mental fortitude 2:24:32.480 --> 2:24:35.720 and mental like development over time, and it's just you know, 2:24:35.760 --> 2:24:37.720 I just wanted to tell you, but I appreciate it 2:24:37.800 --> 2:24:38.040 coming on. 2:24:38.160 --> 2:24:39.840 I appreciate you guys were having me do I always 2:24:39.840 --> 2:24:41.600 have a buss. You guys are the best. I love 2:24:41.640 --> 2:24:43.280 seeing you guys like out and shit like that. 2:24:43.320 --> 2:24:43.760 It's fun. 2:24:44.240 --> 2:24:47.840 Dude. You gave us the You gave me my better 2:24:47.920 --> 2:24:49.120 one of the probably my best bit. 2:24:50.360 --> 2:24:50.640 Yeah. 2:24:50.720 --> 2:24:53.400 Oh, we didn't even talk about that. We can talk 2:24:53.440 --> 2:24:55.920 about that because I I Oh my gosh, we didn't 2:24:55.920 --> 2:24:58.360 even talk about that. Hey, do me a favorite? Shit 2:24:58.400 --> 2:25:00.560 the fuck up? Yeah, what do you want to talk 2:25:00.600 --> 2:25:02.160 about of T shirts? Dude? 2:25:03.440 --> 2:25:04.840 Did you get the one? Like, no, I'm not even 2:25:04.879 --> 2:25:06.480 talking about that. You put it on black and white 2:25:06.520 --> 2:25:08.800 T shirt. Ain't nobody buying a black and white T shirt? 2:25:08.920 --> 2:25:12.199 I do understand. And you're talking about vibes. You gotta 2:25:12.240 --> 2:25:14.720 put tid eye on that, bitch. Yeah, I I do 2:25:14.840 --> 2:25:16.920 me a favor, And it's like, oh, hell yeah, turn around, 2:25:17.040 --> 2:25:17.920 shut the fuck up. 2:25:18.080 --> 2:25:23.279 Yeah gas so black. We weren't able to do multiple colors. 2:25:23.320 --> 2:25:25.160 Garrett can attest to this working with merchandise. 2:25:25.200 --> 2:25:27.000 Now. Now our merchandise is doing well. 2:25:27.040 --> 2:25:30.920 Paid for everybody store dot barstool sports dot com, correct 2:25:31.360 --> 2:25:33.480 slash bus with the boys, go to our store, continue 2:25:33.480 --> 2:25:35.800 to buy merch But at that point we're kind of 2:25:35.800 --> 2:25:38.720 handcuffed on stuff that we can do because we weren't 2:25:38.760 --> 2:25:41.880 like proving concepts over time or like one would be 2:25:41.920 --> 2:25:43.439 really good but the others weren't. 2:25:43.200 --> 2:25:44.359 Like doing as well. 2:25:45.200 --> 2:25:47.320 I should have trademarked it before you took off with 2:25:47.400 --> 2:25:49.720 it and just sued you for everything you fucking have. 2:25:49.920 --> 2:25:51.879 Just do me a favor, shut the fuck up. Yeah 2:25:52.000 --> 2:25:55.519 in court. I mean now it's like now, ye court. 2:25:55.600 --> 2:25:57.760 Just standing in there, fucking suit and tie and everything 2:25:58.200 --> 2:26:01.240 will come to the stand. 2:26:01.760 --> 2:26:04.879 But yeah, now I'm like taking people for walks. 2:26:05.400 --> 2:26:07.480 Yeah, I mean no, I'm glad that you, like, you know, 2:26:07.760 --> 2:26:10.600 brought you know, more to it. But you know you 2:26:10.600 --> 2:26:12.320 could have tagged me in a couple of them, right, 2:26:12.520 --> 2:26:15.520 I think I did the first time. Oh wow, out 2:26:15.560 --> 2:26:19.200 of your one hundred videos, I gave you literally your 2:26:19.240 --> 2:26:22.480 best content. Here's the thing, best content. I was just 2:26:22.520 --> 2:26:22.960 talking shit. 2:26:23.120 --> 2:26:23.840 No, no, no. 2:26:24.280 --> 2:26:27.000 The credit credit goes to Rob and George for their 2:26:27.160 --> 2:26:30.120 Xbox uh fucking ship talking on Hey do it? 2:26:30.240 --> 2:26:33.480 You met them, squad, you met the boys. 2:26:33.680 --> 2:26:36.440 George is such an interesting cat man, Like George is 2:26:36.600 --> 2:26:38.879 like all you guys are about welcoming fucking I'm not 2:26:38.920 --> 2:26:41.000 that everybody shouldn't be. But you guys got your Bomb 2:26:41.040 --> 2:26:43.640 Squad Xbox team that you've never met in person out 2:26:43.640 --> 2:26:47.800 of Kittlefest. George's got a group chat on Instagram that 2:26:47.879 --> 2:26:50.720 flew out onto Kittlefest that he was just they they're 2:26:50.760 --> 2:26:53.320 just football fans that me that meme him and like 2:26:54.080 --> 2:26:56.520 talk football with him, and George just never stopped responding. 2:26:56.560 --> 2:26:57.920 And then they're all flying out. 2:26:57.840 --> 2:27:00.760 To Kittlefest and all these different varieties and people are 2:27:00.760 --> 2:27:01.759 at Kittlefest. 2:27:01.320 --> 2:27:03.680 Which is a fucking change. It just like changes like 2:27:03.720 --> 2:27:06.760 their life. Like they'll never experience that ever. Yeah, which 2:27:06.760 --> 2:27:09.760 is cool. I mean that's I mean, that's g though. Yeah, 2:27:09.760 --> 2:27:12.600 that's an experience for sure. Yeah, George is awesome. 2:27:12.640 --> 2:27:15.920 But like, yeah, from your guys, just Bomb Squad to 2:27:16.080 --> 2:27:18.240 do me a favorite stuff the taken for a walk, All. 2:27:18.160 --> 2:27:21.800 That came from you guys. I wish you guys would 2:27:21.879 --> 2:27:25.400 do it. What do you mean like you guys, because 2:27:25.440 --> 2:27:27.840 you know I'm not like that on social media I know, 2:27:27.879 --> 2:27:29.760 and you probably wouldn't be causing shut the fuck up 2:27:29.760 --> 2:27:30.160 to people. 2:27:30.879 --> 2:27:33.040 I mean I do like public, yeah, I mean I 2:27:33.120 --> 2:27:36.240 do behind closed doors. Like I told you, man, those 2:27:36.240 --> 2:27:39.480 fourteen year olds do not want this smoke, dude. 2:27:39.640 --> 2:27:40.120 They do not. 2:27:40.640 --> 2:27:42.080 Yeah, but they got a couple other ones that I 2:27:42.120 --> 2:27:45.080 probably shouldn't say camera that are funny, though. 2:27:46.240 --> 2:27:48.400 I'll say one. I got one good ones. I got 2:27:48.440 --> 2:27:50.720 a good one, like when you're when you're not doing 2:27:50.760 --> 2:27:53.000 a good job and they're like, oh, like, you know, 2:27:53.320 --> 2:27:55.760 like my name on there is like whatever, what is 2:27:55.800 --> 2:27:57.320 your name? Oh wait? Wait, oh yeah, you can't say 2:27:57.320 --> 2:27:57.920 it because. 2:27:57.920 --> 2:27:59.920 So they'll say my name and be like, oh, look 2:28:01.160 --> 2:28:03.520 you know you're where were you that fucking round like 2:28:03.640 --> 2:28:06.160 zero kills? I'm like, oh, hold on, sorry, I couldn't 2:28:06.200 --> 2:28:08.400 fucking see the screen. Your girl was sitting on my face. 2:28:10.040 --> 2:28:13.080 Just going after him. That fucking dude, your girl's ass 2:28:13.120 --> 2:28:15.600 cheeks are on my face. I can't see ship. Talking 2:28:15.640 --> 2:28:18.040 on over video games and stuff is so iconic. 2:28:18.160 --> 2:28:19.720 And then they'll be like, well I don't have a girl. 2:28:19.720 --> 2:28:22.800 I'm like, I wonder why. It's just a constant looking loser. 2:28:23.320 --> 2:28:26.600 They just get back to playing, just constantly just going back. Well, 2:28:26.640 --> 2:28:29.680 I appreciate you, bro, No, I appreciate you, dude. Give 2:28:29.720 --> 2:28:32.879 me you're all pointer finger dude. See I read that 2:28:33.000 --> 2:28:35.920 about you. Oh you're talking about the yeah, the pointer Yeah. 2:28:35.920 --> 2:28:37.640 Every time I read that about you and I go 2:28:37.640 --> 2:28:39.440 a pointer finger. I'm a good reader. 2:28:39.920 --> 2:28:42.039 Oh you doing now? No, I do it with you 2:28:42.040 --> 2:28:43.119 because you're a pointer finger. 2:28:43.160 --> 2:28:45.280 I don't know if you're trying to, like, you know, legacy, 2:28:45.320 --> 2:28:47.200 you're spreading it around green Bay and now the whole 2:28:47.240 --> 2:28:48.400 squad and green Bay's doing it. 2:28:48.440 --> 2:28:49.120 You're not like that. 2:28:50.400 --> 2:28:53.039 Hey, you're not him, You were not him, you are 2:28:53.080 --> 2:28:57.280 not him.