WEBVTT - 1/28/26: Noem Trashes Stephen Miller, Ilhan Omar Attacked, ICE Revolt, MAGA Turns On Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, everybody, Happy Wednesday. Great to see.

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<v Speaker 4>M Thanks for thanks for being here. Crystal Well. Ryan

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<v Speaker 4>is in can kuon for his annual Fish show show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I forgot that's what he's got going on this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Very excited. Yeah, but he's like tech Cruse, we got

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<v Speaker 4>a storm and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's outing here coon. That's true. That is true. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot to get to you this morning. There was an

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<v Speaker 2>attack on ilhan Omar at a town hall last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude came up sort of charged at her and squirted

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<v Speaker 2>some foul smelling liquid on her. We still don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what that is, but we'll give you the latest. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a Trump reaction for that. We've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of new details in the killing of Alex Purtty. We

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<v Speaker 2>also had a new shooting involving either ICE or Border

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<v Speaker 2>Patrol or one of the federal agencies out in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken Klippenstein is going to join us with some of

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<v Speaker 2>his latest reporting. He's been getting all kinds of leaks

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<v Speaker 2>as he does. I mean, this is what Ken does.

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<v Speaker 2>But in any case, he's both got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>current ICE agents who are speaking out and who are

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<v Speaker 2>upset about how things are going. He also has some

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<v Speaker 2>indications that while the figureheads at the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>operation in Minneapolis have changed, the tactics don't appear to

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot to get to with him. We had

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in Iowa. I know you paid close attention to

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<v Speaker 2>his speech as Iowa, among other places, not too happy

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<v Speaker 2>with Trump's economic stewardship at this point, Emily.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all he said, Crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know a little bit of a different

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<v Speaker 2>perspective there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, big pictures that he's supposed to be on an

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<v Speaker 4>economic messaging tour and you could see that in the

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<v Speaker 4>text of the speech that he was obviously deviating from

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<v Speaker 4>as one does. And so is is he going to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to focus for the midterms on pitching his

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<v Speaker 4>economic message? Spoiler alert, probably not well.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of that, we didn't get this in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just saw before we started he's making new

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<v Speaker 2>threats to Iran. So yeah, hard to stay focused when

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<v Speaker 2>you're constantly starting new wars all around the world. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of which, we have a wrongful death lawsuit in the

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<v Speaker 2>case of some of the people who were killed in

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<v Speaker 2>those boat attacks, so we can give you the details

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<v Speaker 2>and the significance of that one. Some dire warnings from

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<v Speaker 2>a top AI CEO that are definitely worth paying attention to.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to break down the latest for you

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<v Speaker 2>guys with regards to Sudan, some you know, typical, very

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<v Speaker 2>dire and very grim news, but also some positive things

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<v Speaker 2>going on there as well. So you know, Ryan and

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<v Speaker 2>Emily really wanted to keep you guys updated. I do

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<v Speaker 2>as well, So we'll do our weekly segment to give

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<v Speaker 2>you the very latest on what is the worst humanitarian

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<v Speaker 2>crisis in the entire world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Crystal, let's start with Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed. So we had some Trump comments yesterday with regard

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<v Speaker 2>to specifically the killing of Alex Pretty. That was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>We also had some some infighting coming to the surface

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<v Speaker 2>between the various characters who involve Christy Noan versus Steven Miller,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But let's go ahead and start with some

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<v Speaker 2>of those comments from Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think he was acting as an assassin in Minneapolis?

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Pretty, your deputy chief of staff said that you

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<v Speaker 4>don't think so. I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that you know, we can't we can't walk

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<v Speaker 5>in with Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the Second Amendment?

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, he didn't walk into John We can't hear what.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's very unport.

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<v Speaker 2>But it stepped down the assessment from some of your

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<v Speaker 2>own officials that Alex Pretty is a domestic terrorist or assassin.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I haven't heard that, but certainly shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 5>carrying a gun. But all of hey, look, bottom line,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody in this room, we view that as a very

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<v Speaker 5>unfortunate incident. Okay, everyone, unless you're you're a stupid person,

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<v Speaker 5>very very unfortunate incident. I don't like that he had

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<v Speaker 5>a gun. I don't like that he had two fully

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<v Speaker 5>loaded magazines. That's a lot of bad stuff. And despite that,

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<v Speaker 5>I say, that's a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunate, incredible Zoe Emily effectively there, you know, saying he

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<v Speaker 2>would not characterize Alex pretty as an assassin, but effectively

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<v Speaker 2>saying he was killed because he had a gun, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think Dana lash obviously used to be a

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<v Speaker 4>spokesleone for the NRA quote tweeted that and said something

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<v Speaker 4>one of his comments and said something like, please make

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<v Speaker 4>this administration stop talking about the Second Amendment. Like someone

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<v Speaker 4>just tell them they're not allowed to talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>Second Amendment anymore. But you could see in Trump both

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<v Speaker 4>sides of his dueling political instincts, or his doing personal

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<v Speaker 4>and political instincts. His personal instinct is to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>he you know, this guy doesn't like me. He brought

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<v Speaker 4>two magazines. He's an agitator. And then on the other side,

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<v Speaker 4>you can see he recognizes there's an obvious problem and

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<v Speaker 4>that's why people are even asking the question on an

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<v Speaker 4>obvious political problem for him. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>he thinks about the substance of problem, but he at

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<v Speaker 4>least recognizes there's a political problem for him, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why the swirl right now of rumors about Christy Nome.

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<v Speaker 4>It's why that's even being asked in the first place,

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<v Speaker 4>because conservative media, Daily Wire, Daily Caller are reporting that

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<v Speaker 4>the tensions inside the administration between the Homan camp and

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<v Speaker 4>the Nome camp are absolutely real. They have been real

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<v Speaker 4>for some time, and you can see with Nome stepping

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<v Speaker 4>back and Homan going to Minneapolis meeting with Jacob Fry

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<v Speaker 4>and Tim Walls yesterday, that it's genuinely possible he demotes

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<v Speaker 4>her in one way or another.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think he's looking for escape goat. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know the fact that there is pressure, that there

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<v Speaker 2>have been some at least you know, top level or

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<v Speaker 2>cosmetic changes, I think is incredibly significant. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to keep our eye on whether, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of systematic problems with this approach are actually altered,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, that's something I'm very skeptical of and

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk to Ken about. And also, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it does fit a pattern of whenever something goes wrong

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump that people can't deny that, you know, MAGA

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<v Speaker 2>can't deny it's never his fault, right, It's always, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's this person, it's that person. He's getting bad advice,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And so I see a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>with this as well. There was another speaking of Trump's psychology.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a very interesting insight into Trump's psychology. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that this will necessarily surprise people, but he indicated he

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<v Speaker 2>may actually feel a little bit worse about Renee Goods

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<v Speaker 2>murder because of the fact that her parents were big

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<v Speaker 2>Trump supporters. So let's go ahead and take a listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that one.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not sure about his parents, but I know

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<v Speaker 5>her parents were big Trump fans. Makes me feel bad anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, I guess you could say even worse.

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<v Speaker 5>They were tremendous Trump people, Trump fans, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>the daughter was she was I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 5>could say radicalized. Maybe radicalized maybe not. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I hate to see it. I hate to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just what can you even say about that?

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<v Speaker 2>He's ranking how badly he feels about these various killings

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<v Speaker 2>from his own agents based on the proximity to Trump fans.

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<v Speaker 4>Not surprising at all. And we're going to talk a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit later in this block about how he responded

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<v Speaker 4>to what happened to ilhan Omar last night. As well

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<v Speaker 4>but worth noting. Actually this was in political playbook I

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<v Speaker 4>was reading just before we started. They had an interesting

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<v Speaker 4>anecdote from I think it was the President of Slovakia

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<v Speaker 4>who said, who was after everything went down last week?

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<v Speaker 4>And make sure that I had this exactly right? He said,

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<v Speaker 4>as the Prime Minister of Slovakia. He said that a

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<v Speaker 4>meeting with Donald Trump left him shocked by the US

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<v Speaker 4>President's state of mind. He told EU leaders at a

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<v Speaker 4>summit after a meeting with Trump. And this is according

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<v Speaker 4>to five European diplomats briefed on the conversation. This man

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<v Speaker 4>is Robert Fico and he is, as Politico says, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the few EU leaders to frequently support Trump's stance

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<v Speaker 4>on Europe's weakness. He was concerned about the US president's

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<v Speaker 4>quote psychological state, according to to diplomats, and then Fico

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<v Speaker 4>used the word quote dangerous to describe how the US

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<v Speaker 4>President came across during their face to face meeting. So

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<v Speaker 4>that is from a leader who's who's pro Trump worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Not very sort of like MAGA adjacent kind of a guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he spoke it. I'm pretty sure you spook at

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<v Speaker 4>one of the Sea PACs in the last year Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you take that as he's actually sort of unhinged,

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<v Speaker 2>that he's you know, this is like age decline? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you read into that?

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<v Speaker 4>My read is that it is age decline. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think our standard of age decline is watching the

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<v Speaker 4>dramatic decline of Joe Biden. But not everything that's age

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<v Speaker 4>decline is going to look as dramatic as Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 4>decline looked in front of everybody as it was playing out.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's that's my best guess because when

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen him, and I think, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 4>us have talked about this, Crystal you, I, Sager and

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan have talked about this, he seemed different a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's always None of that surprised me that

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<v Speaker 4>he just said about, like, for example, the family of

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<v Speaker 4>Renee Good versus the family of Alex Pritty. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>find that particularly surprising. But he does just seem lower

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<v Speaker 4>energy in some of his public appearances.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, let's go ahead and put up this next development,

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<v Speaker 2>which is we have very few details about, but is

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<v Speaker 2>one to watch. There was a man shot in what's

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<v Speaker 2>described as an incident involving border patrol in Arizona man

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<v Speaker 2>who the FBI said has a criminal history of human smuggling,

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<v Speaker 2>was shot and wounded by Border Patrol agent in Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday after allegedly firing at agents. According to officials,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Gary Schlegel, a thirty four year old Arizona and resident,

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<v Speaker 2>was shot around seven thirty am in Aravaka. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to say that, sorry, guys, about ten miles

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<v Speaker 2>north of the US Mexico border. He was shot after

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<v Speaker 2>a footchase following a traffic stop related to an active

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<v Speaker 2>alien smuggling matter. So that is what the government is saying.

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<v Speaker 2>The government has often just flat out lined in these cases.

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<v Speaker 2>So that might be what happened, it might not be

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. But if we can put this next piece

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<v Speaker 2>up on the screen, we now have a track record

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<v Speaker 2>of more than a dozen shootings involving ICE and various

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<v Speaker 2>DHS agents. Per the Washington Post, there were sixteen different

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<v Speaker 2>DHS shootings. You had quite a number where they initially

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<v Speaker 2>charged the people who either were shot or shot at.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, in the case of Miramar Martinez in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when we followed very closely. They claimed the agent

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<v Speaker 2>was blocked in by ten vehicles that she uh. The

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<v Speaker 2>initial rapport was, well, she grabbed a gun. Now she

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<v Speaker 2>did have a weapon much like Alex Pretty that she

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<v Speaker 2>was legally permitted to carry. She never touched the gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Body camera footage came out and they dropped the charges

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<v Speaker 2>and walked away from them. That has happened in a

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<v Speaker 2>number of cases where you had these shootings from ice

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<v Speaker 2>or from CBP agents where they initially claim that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to arrest this person, We're going to file

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<v Speaker 2>charges because they did something that provoked this was self defense,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And they've had to go on and drop

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<v Speaker 2>the charges because once you know, you actually have to

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<v Speaker 2>go to court and prove the claims that they're making,

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<v Speaker 2>they are unable to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a good point that their spin is actually

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<v Speaker 4>I think sometimes their spin is is rather clever, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is about galvanizing their own side so that people,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is what spin is, but it's so

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<v Speaker 4>intentional that it's about sort of muddying the waters and

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<v Speaker 4>galvanizing their their own side in a way that makes

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<v Speaker 4>it hard for some of these narratives to take off,

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<v Speaker 4>because I mean, some of the narratives have been misleading

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<v Speaker 4>like the little Guy last week, like it's that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>obviously a problem too, but it's it's effective and when

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<v Speaker 4>you have to prove those claims in the court of law.

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<v Speaker 4>I think these numbers are pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and I mean it also proves why it's

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<v Speaker 2>been so important the people who are recording in many

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<v Speaker 2>in and around Minneapolis, because without that footage, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the government's word versus this individual, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if in the case of ox Party and Renee Good,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously they can no longer speak for themselves. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why that mission of just recording everything that's going on

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<v Speaker 2>has ended up being incredibly significant in a number of

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<v Speaker 2>these instances in order to actually establish what truly happened,

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<v Speaker 2>not just the government's spin, because that is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. And you know, I think this ties in

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<v Speaker 2>with like the Noam versus Stephen Miller, Tom Homan versus

0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Greg Babno thing here is Miller according to the Noam camp,

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<v Speaker 2>Miller said, Okay, this is the narrative we're going with.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a domestic terrorist, he was a would be assassin,

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<v Speaker 2>he was planning maximum damage. And the reason they do

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<v Speaker 2>that before you know, anyone can even see the video

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<v Speaker 2>to see what actually happened. Is that that has been

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<v Speaker 2>their pattern and practice in the past, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>worked in a number of instances where they can at

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<v Speaker 2>least get their narrative out. As you said, it muddies

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<v Speaker 2>the water. They're supporters who want to believe them and

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<v Speaker 2>want to back up their side of the story, start

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<v Speaker 2>spinning that out, and then by the time you have

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of contradictory evidence, many people have already moved on. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of the case of Martinez is another great

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<v Speaker 2>example of that, where right when it happened, before we

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<v Speaker 2>had any of the surveillance footage or any of the

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<v Speaker 2>other indications, you know, the right really believed the government

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<v Speaker 2>story that these ICE agents were under attack, they were

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<v Speaker 2>I think there were CBP actually were under attack, that

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<v Speaker 2>they were blocked in, that it was self defense, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>And then by the time it's all resolved, most of

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<v Speaker 2>the country has moved on from the details of that

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<v Speaker 2>and they haven't really thought too much about it. So

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to me that they tried to run that

0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:29.040
<v Speaker 2>exact same playbook here and it was just too undeniable.

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<v Speaker 2>There was too much evidence, There was too much footage,

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<v Speaker 2>and what they claimed was so dissonant from the reality

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<v Speaker 2>of what actually occurred clearly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when you have officers involved in their lives

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<v Speaker 4>are on the line, there's an incentive to spin from

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<v Speaker 4>them as they are going up the change of command

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<v Speaker 4>and saying, yes, this is what happened. And that's why.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, with all of their new funding, every

0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.360
<v Speaker 4>single one of them should have body cameras on. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's not what's happening right now. The numbers are not

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<v Speaker 4>that every single one of them has body cameras on.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's still minority of them are actually wearing

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<v Speaker 4>body cameras. The numbers are the Washington Posts had some

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<v Speaker 4>numbers on that, but it's definitely not every one of them,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why we don't have body camera video and

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<v Speaker 4>why in fact, in the Renee Good case, you had

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<v Speaker 4>a guy holding his cell phone as he was patrolling

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<v Speaker 4>that particular situation. So all this is to say, you

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<v Speaker 4>have an obvious set of incentives that is not towards

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the truth, although now that everybody is filming

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<v Speaker 4>it does make it harder. I mean, there's just this

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<v Speaker 4>case is one that I think the public's trust was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of shattered because the news and in a non

0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.960
<v Speaker 4>partisan way, like I think I just sent this to

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<v Speaker 4>one of our messaging things, but this is from Alex

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<v Speaker 4>Clark at Turning Point USA, who said, I run a

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook group of over twenty thousand conservative women who are

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<v Speaker 4>fans of my show, and the majority think that Alex

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<v Speaker 4>pretty shooting was unjustified. And I know folks are making

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<v Speaker 4>the argument that it's only optics that people are thinking

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<v Speaker 4>the ox Predy cases on, that other people in the

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<v Speaker 4>public are losing faith in the Trump administration on all

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<v Speaker 4>of this, But I also think when you were in

0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.760
<v Speaker 4>the government and you come out with such a bold

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<v Speaker 4>position that this guy was trying to do maximum damage there,

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<v Speaker 4>that he was there to massacre law enforcement, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, probably a dozen videos taken from the scene

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<v Speaker 4>where he's clearly just an average person involved in the

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<v Speaker 4>protest or the disruption, however you want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a really dramatic like that that creates that's

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<v Speaker 4>the type of thing that creates a trust gap with

0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.800
<v Speaker 4>your own with independence and with people who were like thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>what do I want? What do I make of all

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<v Speaker 4>of this? Like the entire approach. What do I make

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<v Speaker 4>of the administration's entire approach to immigration? And plus you

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<v Speaker 4>layer the Second Amendment stuff on top of that, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Trump's political instincts. You can see he's kind of

0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.680
<v Speaker 4>being torn. He understands there's a problem, and that speaks

0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 4>pretty loudly in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, well, over a long enough time horizon, if

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<v Speaker 2>you are a sycophantic Trump supporter, he is going to

0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.920
<v Speaker 2>humiliate you. And he did that here because Steven Miller, Christinoum,

0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Jade Vance, I'll get out there, over there, Greg Bavino

0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 2>over their skis doing the thing they think Trump is

0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna want, because that's what he's wanted all this way

0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of lie, cover up, never back down, never apologize. We're

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the good guys, they're the bad guys. That's how it is,

0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, the children of the Light versus the children

0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:36.399
<v Speaker 2>of the dark. And then Trump sits back, sees the

0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.560
<v Speaker 2>way that this is, this is a disaster for him,

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.040
<v Speaker 2>and he undercuts all of them. So all of and

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<v Speaker 2>not just the administration officials, like all of the you know,

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.320
<v Speaker 2>right wing influencers, the Matt Walsh types who were out

0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.000
<v Speaker 2>there going hard in the paint, going to the mat over. Sorry,

0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 2>no pun intended, Matt Walsh, but anyway, going to the

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<v Speaker 2>mat over, you know, backing up this completely bogus narrative

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened, and then your guy just comes in

0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.879
<v Speaker 2>and casually is like, now, this was a terrible incident

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to look into it. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is what he does now in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of any sort of like actual accountability. Here put d

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<v Speaker 2>d sorry A five up on the screen. No civil

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<v Speaker 2>rights violation investigation is going to happen. DHS is going

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<v Speaker 2>to investigate themselves. They still, of course, are not cooperating

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<v Speaker 2>with the local and state officials. They went to court

0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.160
<v Speaker 2>to argue that they're allowed to destroy evidence in this

0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and other cases. So that's the reality of what's happening

0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes. But in this case versus Renee Good,

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.239
<v Speaker 2>they at least felt enough pressure to pretend to do

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of investigation. So I guess we'll count that

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<v Speaker 2>as progress. Let's go and put the next piece up

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<v Speaker 2>on the screen, because we do have some early indications

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<v Speaker 2>from the initial DHS review and even this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>self review that I don't think anyone really trust trust

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<v Speaker 2>to be impartial, even that already contradicts the initial narrative

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 2>that came out to me. There were two important pieces

0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 2>of this breakdown. Number One, Preddy did not brandish a gun.

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we already knew that because we all watched this.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing brandished was a phone. Emily and you know,

0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.720
<v Speaker 2>our friends over at newsbacks did demonstrate how I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you know you can brandish a phone like it's a weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>But in any case, yeah, like the exacts, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think we have the video, but you can look it

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<v Speaker 4>up Greg Kelly. Greg Kelly like blue steel for the

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<v Speaker 4>camera and was pulling a phone, making it like it

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<v Speaker 4>looks like a gun. Right, He's like, I don't know

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.040
<v Speaker 4>about you, but looks like a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Kelly is supposed to be trained law enforcement professionals.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure they could probably tell the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>a gun and a phone. And if they can't, then

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<v Speaker 2>that is a whole other issue that we need to

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<v Speaker 2>think about. In any case, the other important detail there,

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<v Speaker 2>which had come out in some of the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 2>I think video analysis there were two separate agents that

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 2>fired shots into Preddy. There were two agents, so I

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 2>think there were ten shots. Eight of them came from

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 2>one guy, two of them came from another guy. So

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've been thinking in terms largely of one

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 2>individual responsible for this killing, and in fact it was

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.879
<v Speaker 2>it was two, which I think is significant because it

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.160
<v Speaker 2>speaks to you know, this isn't just like a one off,

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 2>this isn't a bad apple. This is two guys. And

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<v Speaker 2>even even if you give him the most charitable reading

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 2>that they thought there was, you know, a gun and

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 2>they were under threat and they got spooked. After Alex

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Pritty is lying motionless on the ground, they continue to

0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 2>pump bullets into his body. So those were the two

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<v Speaker 2>I thought significant parts of that investigation, that early evaluation

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.560
<v Speaker 2>from DHS, And if we put a seven up on

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<v Speaker 2>the screen, some new information came out about Prettie himself.

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 2>He had been recording, you know, this is something he

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.919
<v Speaker 2>had been doing. This wasn't his first time and apparently

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:59.199
<v Speaker 2>previously he had the week before he had had his

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 2>ribs broken by federal agents. So it says federal immigration

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 2>officers have been collecting personal information about protesters and agitators

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 2>in Minneapolis. Orses told CNN, and had documented details about

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Alex Party before he was shot to death on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>It is unclear how Party first came to the attention

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<v Speaker 2>of federal authorities, but sources told CNN about a week

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<v Speaker 2>before his death he suffered a broken rib when a

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.639
<v Speaker 2>group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 2>their attempt to detain other individuals. In a statement, DHS

0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 2>said DHS Law Enforcement has no record of this incident.

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.959
<v Speaker 2>A memo sent earlier this month to agents temporarily assigned

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<v Speaker 2>to the city asked them to capture all images, license

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 2>plate identifications, and general information on hotels, agitators, protesters, etc.

0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.639
<v Speaker 2>So we can capture it all in one consolidated form.

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<v Speaker 2>So what CNN is claiming here is not only did

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Alex Party have his rib broken the previous week, which

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 2>again speaks to the insanely consistently insanely aggressive tactics of

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 2>these federal agents, but the other part, emily that needs

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 2>to be at least looked into. Is there claiming that

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 2>he was put into some sort of database of known

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 2>protesters known quote unquote agitators, and that raises the question

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 2>over whether or not he was actively targeted by those

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>those agents on the scene who end up taking his.

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<v Speaker 4>Life, and I find the the database possibility, I mean,

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.160
<v Speaker 4>sounds like it's a lot more than a possibility when

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<v Speaker 4>you actually have agents out there, as the viral video

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 4>from Main show saying you're now in our database. I

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 4>find that like highly disturbing.

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 2>What I consider you a domestic terrorist because we put

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 2>you in that database. So yeah, I mean, logic would

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<v Speaker 2>indicate that they viewed Alex Party in that same way.

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<v Speaker 4>What I see in the pretty video and what I

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 4>see in the renanink Good video, and I would what

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<v Speaker 4>I see in so many of these videos is more

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 4>of a keystone cop situation than an operation that is

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 4>like fine tuned to target people like Pratty. Like in

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 4>that video, for example, it seems as though to me

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 4>CBP was trying to deal with the woman and Protty

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 4>stepped in between them and the woman and that's where

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 4>it all went south. And so I'm psycho even with.

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 2>That, Even with that, like why were they assaulting this woman,

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Why do they push her to the ground. To the

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 2>two women that were there, why did they push them

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.360
<v Speaker 2>to the ground, Why did they pepper spray them? Why

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>did they pepper spray Alex Pardy, Like none of it

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.919
<v Speaker 2>was necessary at all, which is why I say, I

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 2>think you're right. And this is very typical of this

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.880
<v Speaker 2>administration that there is a keystone cops element to what

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 2>they do. But they're also you know, you had Trump

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>himself saying that they're coming to Minneapolis or Minnesota for retribution, right.

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 2>You have the Vice President of the United States saying

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>these guys have quote unquote absolute immunity after they killed

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Renee Good. So of course they took that message from

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<v Speaker 2>the top that this is what the President of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States wants me to be doing, wants me to

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<v Speaker 2>be roughing up and assaulting and do and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just terrorizing these communities, which is why you don't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in one or two instances where it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be nearly every interaction is not to de escalate,

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<v Speaker 2>but to ramp things up, but to escalate to the

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<v Speaker 2>next level, but to create these incredibly chaotic, dangerous and

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<v Speaker 2>violent situations.

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<v Speaker 4>The story that seems to be emerging is someone Ice

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<v Speaker 4>was looking for ran into the donut shop. And we're

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<v Speaker 4>still obviously trying to get the pieces of the puzzle

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<v Speaker 4>put together here, but someone ran into the donut shop

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<v Speaker 4>and because the Ice watchers had identified a vehicle, they

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 4>started kind of dispatching themselves over to this block and

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<v Speaker 4>making it difficult for Ice to then apprehend the suspected

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 4>migrant or whomever was in the donut shop or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>part of that operation where they're trying to nab someone.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when I look at the pretty broken rib story,

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<v Speaker 4>it does make more sense to me that his parents

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 4>were worried about him. I think people are right to

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<v Speaker 4>be worried about anyone who's going out in this situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I know many of our viewers are probably going out

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<v Speaker 4>and protesting, and I just you know, kilmar Abrego Garcia

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<v Speaker 4>is a good example to me of somebody who the

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<v Speaker 4>administration admitted to what did they say, like an administrative error,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 4>clerical or something like that when he was originally deported

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 4>and is playing out in court right now. And I

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 4>think that's a much less chaotic and much safer way

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 4>for everybody to fight some of these battles. So it

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 4>doesn't excuse Keystone Coppery at all. And that's definitely what

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing on the streets of Minneapolis. But that was

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 4>my sort of big picture perspective on all of the chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a look at some of this in fighting here.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's put a eight up on the screen immediately after,

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, when Trump starts to show that he's unez

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 2>with the lies that were told and labels this quote

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>unquote unfortunate incident. Won't call ax pretty an assassin, won't

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>say he's a domestic terrorist. It's Christy Noam and Greg

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Bavino that are the initial fall guys. But Vinos pulled

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>down in Minneapolis and back to California. Tom Homan brought

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<v Speaker 2>in instead. And here you have from Axios quote Christynam's

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>language that Alex Party wanted to massacre federal agents was

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 2>dictated to Noam and her department by the man most

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:33.640
<v Speaker 2>responsible for the controversial operation, Stephen Miller. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you Emily, like I have zero love for Christy Noam,

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>but I actually find this report to be very credible.

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>And one of the things Kyle actually pointed out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a good point. Remember back what feels like

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>a million years ago when we had the whole Signal

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Gate controversy and we got to see the internal communications

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<v Speaker 2>with a variety of top level aids to include Steven Miller,

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>when they decided to go forward with the Yemen bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>It was when he came in over the top and said, hey,

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the big guy says we're going, so we're going, and

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>really positioned himself as speaking for the president. The president

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>has effectively Trump has effectively put Stephen Miller like, this

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>is one of your he has a lot in his portfolio.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>But this whole like immigration, mass deportation, flooding the zone,

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>with these federal agents occupying these cities, this is your

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>this is your zone. And so what I my guess,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>having zero inside knowledge of what happened here, is that

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 2>you got some information, perhaps even somewhat inaccurate information from

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the agents on the ground that there was a gun,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>because they in real time seemed confused about what happened there.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 4>When his body is prone on the ground, they're saying,

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 4>some of them are saying, where's the gun? Where's the gun?

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 4>Not even realizing and this The Washington posted an analysis

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 4>from where they watched the video, or they had law

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 4>enforcement experts watch the video. And one of the things

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 4>the experts said, which is obvious to anybody who saw it,

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 4>is if you disarm him, you say he's been disarmed.

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 4>I have the gun. I have the gun and instead

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 4>they seem to have had. Some of them seem to

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 4>have not known that he was disarmed, which will be

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 4>a very big question legally, of course, but obviously some

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 4>of them knew he was disarmed. At least one of

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 4>themknew was disarmed because he disarmed him. But why did

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 4>he not say, we don't see in any of the

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 4>videos he has been disarmed. He has been disarmed. Clearly

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 4>they didn't know.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 2>So in any case, it's possible that some inaccurate information

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>came from the agents on the ground they immediately, without

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>missing a beat, spin it into this narrative of his

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>would be assassin trying to commit a massacre, mass murderer, etcetera, etcetera,

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>And it would It does not surprise me at all

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 2>that that specific language and the imprimature of this is

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>what the big guy wants would come from Stephen Miller.

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what you make of that, given what you

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<v Speaker 2>know of the the internal dynamics.

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>There have been reports that Stephen Miller is really driving

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>the reports for a year now that Steven Miller is

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 4>driving DHS, that he's doing briefings with them, and it's

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 4>coming top down from Steven Miller bypassing nom In some cases,

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if this leak is pretty intentional because Christinoman

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 4>is trying to save her job and is trying to say, hey,

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>Steven Miller, this came from Stephen Miller, when yeah, and

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 4>it's it's amazing because I think what likely happened is

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Stephen Miller told her to say that, and she was like,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, she was happy to say what Steven Miller

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 4>told her to say. I mean, it's as though it's

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 4>it's not as though she's, you know, some toddler who

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 4>can't formulate her own thoughts and isn't responsible for telling

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 4>the American public the truth. She went out and spun it.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 4>She did that interview with Peter Doocy from the building

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 4>where she was like going into detail with these claims

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 4>and standing by them, and a point that you made

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 4>earlier I just wanted to underline, which was they know,

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 4>this is what Trump wants to see in you know,

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 4>eighty percent of cases. And what happened in this case

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 4>is I think those who kept their powder dry genuinely

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>did not intend upon there, but those who kept their

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 4>powder dry ended up being closer to Trump because Trump

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 4>realized that the people who were pibles super aggressive in

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 4>the messaging from the beginning made the administration look bad

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 4>because there was so much daylight between what they said

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 4>and what happened. And that's where you had Caroline Levitt,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 4>someone who largely kept her powder dry, telling reporters at

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 4>the briefing the other day when she was asked if

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 4>Trump has Trump agreed that Pratty was a quote, domestic terrorist,

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 4>she said she has not heard President Trump quote characterize

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 4>mister pretty in that way, which to the point you

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 4>made earlier, Crystal, that if you really really know Trump,

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 4>then you would understand sometimes he's not gonna like like

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 4>sometimes his instincts are different than the Maga instinct because

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't come from the right like he's a Republican now,

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 4>but he comes from like TV world and has a

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 4>history as a Democrat, like he's from New York. He

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 4>just has a different background, and that that is, I

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 4>mean a serious problem for for Christy Noam, But clearly

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 4>I think trying to telegraph that she wasn't ultimately to blame,

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 4>which you're an adult.

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>All of these people are to blame, up to and

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>including the President of the United States, who ultimately the

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>buck should stop with and.

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 4>People are forgetting he put out let me find He

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 4>put out a post on truth social saying something similar.

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:35.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna be able to find it because he's

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 4>truth so many times in the last few days. But

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 4>he right away said something similar to but he didn't

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 4>go on camera.

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, last piece, let's put this up on

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>the screen. Steven Miller trying to sort of like, you know,

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>another way of him washing his hands of any sort

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>of accountability for you know, I mean, this whole project

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>is really his project. This whole like at no nationalist,

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, occupying Liberal city is this is all Steven Miller. Truly,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone really believes Christinolme is like the

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>brains behind all of these operations in any case, it says.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>This is from CNN. White House Deputy Chief of Staff

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Steven Miller says officials are evaluating why Customs and Border

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Protection agents in Minneapolis may not have been following proper

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>protocol before the fatal shooting of VIA nurse Alex Pretty.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>In a statement to CNN, Miller said the White House

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>had quote provided clear guidance to DHS that the extra

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>personnel that have been sent to Minnesota for force protection,

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>should be used for conducting fugitive operations to create a

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>physical barrier between the arrest teams and the disruptors. We're

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>evaluating why the CBP team may not have been following

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that protocol. And I mean, this is just really rich

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>from Steven Miller from this White House, which again said

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 2>that these thugs had quote unquote absolute immunity after they

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>had just killed another American citizen, Renee Good. So the

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>message went out from the top that we want you

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to be thug, we want you to terrorize, we want

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you to rampage and like strike fear in the hearts

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>of these communities, and that's exactly what they got. Now, again,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you that they there's a lot of

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 2>buffoonishness and like you know, especially the new ICE recruits.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's worth noting that both the agent that killed

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that killed Alex Party and the one who killed Renee Good,

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>these are not new recruits. These were people with many

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>years serving in these positions, so presumably training is not

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the issue here. I think what they were getting in

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>terms of what they were supposed to do from leadership,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>like this is what leadership was pushing them to do.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>This is what had been condoned. This is effectively, you know,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>up until the point that it became undeniable and there

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>started to be a political backlash, they were doing exactly

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>what Trump, jd Vance, Stephen Miller, Christinoam, you know, Tom

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Home and Greg Bavino, what all of them wanted them

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>to do in these places.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and here's why I think Christineam's job is in trouble.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 4>She has been a source of skepticism since the very

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 4>beginning among the furthest right immigration hawks. And I'm saying

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>this is somebody who's pretty pro deportations. I don't know

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 4>how anyone defines mass deportations. But the majority of the

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 4>public when Donald Trump took office again he was above

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 4>water on the issue of immigration. Was his polling was

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 4>above a majority of the country who supported his immigration

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 4>agenda and supported mass deportations. And the question of how

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 4>you define that is obviously important, and what methods you

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 4>use is obviously important. But there are a whole lot

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 4>of people on the right who look at Christinome and

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 4>see that she has has led the agency into chaos. Now,

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 4>of course, if they're not in an easy situation, they've

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 4>very organized activist groups that are intentionally making life very

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 4>difficult for them, and the Left is i think correctly

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 4>pointing out they're successfully making life very very difficult for

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 4>them and for the agents, and even experienced agents as

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 4>we just pointed out. So they're not like in an

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 4>easy situation, no question about that. But now christinome that

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 4>comes to a head when people look around and realize

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 4>this entire year long operation looks like a bungled public

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 4>relations campaign rather than something that would have been orderly

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 4>and substantive. Now many people are saying, you're not going

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 4>after employers at all? What about the guys who own

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 4>the meat packing plant? Why aren't they in cuffs? Why

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 4>are you picking random people out of the streets and

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 4>not going after the Americans who have employed them knowingly?

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Are you investigating that at all? Is anybody in trouble

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 4>over that? So? I mean, this is all coming to

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 4>a head for Christine noam, and I think she's very

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 4>very vulnerable. She might just get a Bovino styled emotion

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 4>because Trump doesn't like to concede anything, but I think

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 4>she's she's really on the line right now.

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she could just be sidelined and end up, you know,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 2>in a sort of like Tulsi Gabbird like state where

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>you still have the title, but it doesn't doesn't mean

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a whole heck of a lot. All right, let's go

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>ahead and get to this news about ilhan Omar. Wild

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>scene in Minneapolis where ilhan Omar was attacked in a

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>town hall. So she was there, you know, speaking to

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 2>constituents and at a moment when she was calling for

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I used to be abolished and Chris Christinome to be impeached,

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 2>a man charges at her squirts her with some foul

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>smelling liquid. They say it smelled strongly of vinegar, was

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 2>like this disgusting brown color. We still don't know what

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 2>it is. He has now been arrested, but just take

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>a look at this whole scene is so crazy.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Secretary Christinome must resign or face impeachment. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, he's we will, we will continue the assholes.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna get We are Minnesota strong, and.

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 2>So there's no yeah, well that's I mean, we'll talk

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>about her responses, which is wild. But we do have

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>one more angle of this. Let's go ahead and take

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>a look at this one as well.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 6>Impeachment to talk about her response.

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Right because she charges at him. She's like and she

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like raises her arms like she is going to take

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>him out. I mean that would listen, that would not

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>be my response and more power it might be.

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 4>I think it might be.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess you never know until you're in

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>that situation. But the fact that you get sprayed with

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 2>this liquid is so disturbing, and you know that would

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that would really freak me out. By the way this

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 2>guy has been arrested. I can look at what his

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 2>name is people pull to social media. Appears to be

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 2>a Trump supporter, h follows you know, some like well

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 2>known maga influencer type personalities, but obviously very unnervy, unnerving

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and disturbing situation.

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 4>Well it's from a syringe too, so you really, I mean,

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 4>the fact that he sprayed something out of a syringe

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 4>allegedly here is I mean obviously horrifying. If you're on

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 4>the other ende of something getting squirted out of a

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 4>syringe at a town hall event, Now credit where it's

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 4>to do. Politicians are such lame losers, babies like across

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 4>the board, Chrystal, you know this and that second angle.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 4>What you saw was ilhan Omar basically charged to the guy,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 4>this big dude, which if you're in the listening audience,

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 4>this guy is a he's probably like six foot two

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 4>twenty or something like that. I'm just guessing. And ilhan Omar,

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 4>who is tiny. As much as I may disagree with

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 4>this woman, credit words deal, that was badass totally.

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>His name is Anthony Kashmir Zach fifty five years old.

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 2>And you know, ilhan has long been a lightning rod

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>for conservative attacks. Trump has really fixated on her recently.

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 2>In fact, just hours before this attack occurred, he was

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 2>talking about her at his Iowa rally. You know, even

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>his we have his response here, put a thirteen up

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>on the actually put a twelve first to get a

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>sense of the of the type of things that he's

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 2>been saying about her. And this is just like all

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the time he's going after her. He said, there is

0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 2>nineteen billion dollars in Minnesota. Somalia fraud, fake woman. Ilhan Omar,

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>a constant complainer who hates the USA, knows everything there

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>is to know. She should be in jail or even

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 2>a worse punishment sent back to Somalia. Consider one of

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the absolutely worst countries in the world. She could help

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>to make Somalia great again. Put the next one up

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 2>on the screen. He was asked for his reaction to

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>this attack. And while you had some you know, Republican

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>members like Nancy Mace came out with a very gracious statement,

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>not so from President Trump. He said, this is from

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 2>a reporter. Just spoke to President Trump. I asked him

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>if he'd seen the video of Representative Omar being attacked

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and sprayed by a substance. Quote. No, I don't think

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 2>about her lies because he talks about her all the time,

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 2>had just been talking about her earlier in the day.

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>In any case, he goes on, he says, I think

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 2>she's a fraud. I really don't think about that. She

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>probably had her self sprayed, knowing her, the President said.

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I asked again if he had seen the video. I

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it. No, No, I hope I don't have

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to bother. So there's yours from.

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 4>Trump's just classic Donald Trump. It's like from the Charlie

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 4>Kirk memorial service where he was like, the one thing

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 4>I disagree with Erica on, we don't forgive. Just typical

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 4>callback to that mentality. He demonstrated in the moment. But yeah,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean I've seen also, I should pull this up.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 4>There's been criticism of the level of charges that actually

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 4>have been dropped. So Mike Davis from the Article three

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 4>project he posted in response to the fact that the

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 4>guy is only getting I think he's yeh state third

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 4>degree assault charges. He said, attacking a member of Congress

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 4>is a federal crime. The Justice Department must fully investigate

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 4>this attack. The FBI must interview the suspect, along with

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 4>obtaining material statement effact from ilhan Omar, no one is

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 4>above the law because yeah, again he's just being held

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 4>on third degree assault charges. So there's a little duty

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 4>for the federal government.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>From Mike Davis, Yeah, no, that's actually that's a very

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 2>good point. And you know, I listen, credit to Ilan incredible,

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>like just in the moment, courage and not just from

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 2>her initial instinct to charge at this guy, but then

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>her staff are like, we got to get out of here,

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>you got to get checked out, We got to end

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>this town hall. And she's like, no, I'm not going

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to let this asshole steal the show. We're going to continue,

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Like just give me a few minutes, let me gather myself,

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and people in the audience were also understandably very unnerved

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and upset because it's the sort of thing where, you know,

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>and again we still don't even know what this substance was.

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 2>It's been sent for testing and it looked horrifying. It's

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>like this brown liquid and a syringe, like you said,

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it really shatters your sense of safety,

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>right because if he had had a gun, like it's

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>all over. You know, we're also we are all as humans,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>incredibly fragile beings, right. It takes us having this shared

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>social contract and sense of you know, personal safety and

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>trust in one another to be able to just go

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>about and live our lives, let alone when you're an

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>incredibly i mean just constantly demonized an attacked figure like

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 2>ilhan Omar. For her even to do this town hall

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to begin with was was like a fantastic act of

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>courage to be honest, given the level of threat that

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>she faces on daily basis.

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if there were pat downs security to get

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 4>into a town hall, which, by the way, you shouldn't.

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's a very sad statement on where we are.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't have to do a pat down to get

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 4>into a political town hall. But I wonder if they

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 4>actually were checking for weapons, if there are metal detectors

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. Obviously a syringe wouldn't be found.

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 4>But to Crysl's point about a gun, you know, William

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 4>McKinley got shot point blank by someone who had a

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 4>gun like wrapped on the hand, right, and now you

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 4>have a lot more security when people get that close

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 4>to the president, but a member of Congress, they're going

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 4>in and out of those types of town halls, and

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 4>the country is obviously a powder keg. It feels like,

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, it feels like things are not getting better,

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 4>but getting worse. I think that's kind of an obvious

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 4>thing to say. Even though the Trump administration is trying

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 4>to calm the situation in Minneapolis now realizing, as ken

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 4>clipp And said, we'll tell us in a bit that

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 4>there's clear chaos even being understood inside as chaos, inside

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.959
<v Speaker 4>these agencies and departments as chaos. So even though they're

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 4>trying to now calm the situation or fix the situation,

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 4>repair their own agencies, just feels like things are only

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 4>getting worse.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Crystal, Yeah, I think we'll probably see more and more

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 2>congressional security more and more of that screening just to

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>get into any sort of interaction with members of Congress.

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And inevitably, when you have that, it means that your

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>representative is going to be less accessible. It means that

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you already have had this trend of them

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 2>not doing debates and doing fewer and fewer town halls,

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 2>shutting themselves off in the public. And unfortunately, these sorts

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>of attacks and threats are only going to you know,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 2>make that even more of a reality and give them

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 2>even more of an excuse to close themselves off from

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 2>any sort of public access.

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Set times and when the ecosystem is so fragile, I

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 4>don't know. There's David Betts, who's a civil war historians

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 4>is from the UK. He's been doing some interesting work

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 4>on what it would take to precipitate something that becomes

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 4>a rolling civil conflict in the West, whether it's in

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 4>the UK or the United States, and the conditions feel

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 4>very familiar that he studied in the past feel very

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 4>familiar now. So folks should go check him out if

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 4>they're interested in going deep on where this could, how

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 4>this could escalate and spiral. I mean, obviously the Charlie

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:59.399
<v Speaker 4>Kirk assassination was in September, and everyone tries to have

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 4>you unity. After that, Dems responded some like high profile

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 4>DEMS responded in a way where they're like, this is

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 4>going too far. We need to de escalate. Crystal, there's

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 4>been no de escalation at all, and here we are

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 4>in January and it seems as though it's only getting

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 4>much worse.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, indeed, all right, Well, we've got Ken standing by,

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 2>so let's go ahead and get to him on his

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 2>latest reporting inside of DHS.

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 4>We're always happy to be joined by Ken clippin see

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 4>and he joins us now. Make sure to follow Ken

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 4>on his website Kenclipinstein dot com. That's where you can

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 4>follow his substack, follow him on x wherever you get

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 4>your news. Ken is there and he has been reporting

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 4>from inside the vowels of ICE and Customs and Border

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Protection where he's getting leaks, and those leaks paint a

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 4>picture of the internal dynamics at these agencies that have

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 4>been tested enormously over the last several months. Ken is

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 4>out with a new report that was Ken I saw

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 4>yesterday LinkedIn the Drudge Report. By the way, you probably

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:07.760
<v Speaker 4>already know that, but mega traffic, mega traffic. So everyone

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 4>was posting this and some of the quotes just from

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 4>Ken's sources. Here's one ICE agent tells Ken, I can

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 4>go on and on, but overall it's been a ridiculous experience.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 4>Another one says, as much as I support this administration,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 4>there needs to be more common sense in situations like this,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 4>not a knee jerk damage control narrative that does not

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 4>line up with the evidence on video That was from

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 4>a Border Patrol agent. So, Ken, thanks for joining us.

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Please walk us through your reporting here. What are you

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 4>hearing from inside these agencies.

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.399
<v Speaker 7>One of the things that surprised me most was I

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 7>asked each of the people I interviewed, which is eight

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 7>people from both ICE and Border Patrol. One of the

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 7>most surprising things was asking what that's shooting this past week,

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.720
<v Speaker 7>and every single one of them blamed the Border Patrol

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:58.240
<v Speaker 7>officers involved. And I want to truss that's not coming

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 7>from some liberal, lefty position. I think every person I

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 7>talked to, maybe with the exception of one, were Republicans.

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 7>They just thought it was unprofessional, chaotic, and crazy, and

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 7>when you talk to them, you get the impression of

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 7>an episode of Reno nine to one one more than

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 7>some federal elite law enforcement response, like it's been framed

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 7>by the administration, And they would basically say that themselves

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 7>because they've been inundated and young, inexperienced recruits, who I

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 7>thought when I talked to them they'd be excited about

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 7>this tripling of the ICE law enforcement budget. All of

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 7>them said that these new recruits are useless because they

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 7>haven't been trained, they don't know what the hell's going on.

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 7>They've been dumped into this foreign context is completely different

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 7>from where Border Patrol usually primarily operates, or even what

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 7>ICE typically does, And so it was kind of this

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 7>topsy turvy like opposite in so many ways of what

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 7>I'd expected that I was going to find when I

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 7>talked to them, because they all support immigration enforcement in principle,

0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 7>they just don't support what's taking place because it's not

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 7>immigration enforcement. It's become a national security mission, as was

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 7>described to me, a counter insurgency against the protesters on

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 7>the ground, who the federal government.

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Perceives to be terrorists. And they've said that openly.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 2>How does that square can with the fact that the

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 2>guys we see out there in Minneapolis seem pretty enthusiastic

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>about what they're up to. You know, they seem to

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 2>be into the mission of you know, randomly brutalizing people

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 2>that they encounter and pulling random people off the street,

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. So how do those two things

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 2>square in your view?

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 7>So that's you're seeing a big selection bias and the

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 7>people that actually get set out there because the more

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 7>experienced people are pulling every lever they can to try

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.320
<v Speaker 7>to avoid these deployments because they don't want to be

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 7>involved in any of this. And so the people that

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 7>you're going to see out there are either going to

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.479
<v Speaker 7>be the young recruits that have just been hired off

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 7>of these like crazy memes and recruitment push that you're

0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 7>seeing by ice, and that's going to filter for a

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 7>certain time person. And the second point is that the

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 7>people that are being sent there are doing so on

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 7>a volunteer basis. The government is not handling this like

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 7>they normally would, where they just say, okay, you, you,

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 7>and you you're going to go out there because you

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 7>have the skill set that we want. They and this

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 7>has been described to me by you know, a bunch

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 7>of different agents. I don't know if it's been reported,

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 7>but they're going on and saying, so who wants to go?

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 7>And that's a sign first of all, that they're worried

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 7>that people don't want to go. They don't want to

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 7>send people out there that don't support the mission are

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 7>going to drag their heels and things. And second of all,

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 7>that's going to get the really dung hope people that

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 7>are like yeah. When I talk to people for the story,

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 7>what came up again again was these are the types

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 7>that want to go and get an altercation and really

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 7>buy into this idea of the protesters is some kind

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 7>of radical insurgency that we need to counter. And I

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 7>think that explains a lot of the just crazy levels

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 7>of just you know, macho and like aggressiveness that we're

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 7>seeing posts of the social media all the time. Is

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 7>that this is the most aggressive part of the agent's

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 7>that's going on there.

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's something interesting. I mean, we can roll be

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 4>to here. This is an officer, federal LA Enforcement officer.

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if he's a CDPR. I think he's

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 4>ice who appears to be. If people thought he was

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 4>a little drunk, I thought he was woozy. I don't

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 4>know if it was from like some chemical irritant that

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 4>had been sprayed. This is outside the home too, sweets Hilton,

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 4>where people were believed that Ice was staying and we're

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 4>disrupting it all night, trying to make sure that the

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 4>ICE agent's got no sleep and the like. You've probably

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 4>seen people have probably seen a lot of viral videos

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 4>from this particular scene and believe this was Sunday night.

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 4>We can go ahead and roll the clip and then

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 4>we'll get Ken's reaction. Well pressed here, Okay this officer, now,

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh, are you okay? I'm fine?

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Where's the local?

0:51:54.320 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Prev's there? Okay, where's the locals?

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 5>Please give me the roof.

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Here's a Ice guy mooning the protesters from above for

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 4>the listening audience. Yeah, and Ken, I think.

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 2>You've reported the professional behavior here.

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Ken, I think you report there's been some drinking

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 4>on the job. But one of the things I also

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 4>found interesting from your Ice unlads report that people can

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 4>check out at Kenclippins dot com. Is you mention a

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 4>lot of these guys are not on the left. How

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 4>are they like? What do they want to see done?

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 4>They know they're not in an easy situation, so what

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 4>is there I mean here obviously having the support of

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 4>the local law enforcement has helped them, and that's what

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 4>they want, and you can understand why they would want that,

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 4>But how do they It's not like they're welcoming the

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.959
<v Speaker 4>ante the ICE protesters that they understand that that's created

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 4>a challenging situation. So what more do they want to

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.319
<v Speaker 4>see is a leadership organization? What are they looking for?

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 7>I mean, they're opposed to the entire idea of this

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 7>massive federal deployment that they they don't want to find

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 7>the counter insurgency. They hate this and it's really interesting

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 7>to talk to them because the admin is very triumphalist

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 7>about all this. We're never going to back down, and

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 7>this is so popular virtually all the guys I talk to,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 7>you think this is a disaster for the agency, that

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 7>long term it's going to just destroy the reputation of it,

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 7>and that they won't be able to do what frankly

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 7>a lot of them you know, believe in, which is

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 7>prioritizing violent felons.

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a range of attitudes.

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 7>Some of them want to just you know, deport anyone

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 7>who is here without legal status, but a lot of

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 7>them also, you know, they have this cop mentality of

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 7>like I signed up to fight like cartels, and like

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 7>I hope that I can get sort of these powerful

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 7>people that we want to remove from the country. And

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 7>now it's like I have to go and deal with

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 7>protesters in crowd control, and it's like I would have

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 7>signed up for the National Guard or something like that

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 7>if I want to do that. I don't want to

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 7>do that. It's just so it's like really profoiling, demoralizing.

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 7>And something I struck me was how much they are

0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 7>hearing the protesters Like now I'm you know, I don't

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 7>want to give you the impression that they're like going

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 7>to go out there and wave a you know, like

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 7>wave the flag.

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Of like the laugh or something.

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 7>But it's like they they hear that and they find

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 7>it embarrassing and depressing and like it was almost despondent,

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 7>and it was so weird because I just I go

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 7>from that to talk into like some of my lefty

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 7>friends that are like, you know, what difference does any

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 7>of this make.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>We're not reaching anybody.

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:37.960
<v Speaker 7>It's like they hear and see that stuff and they

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 7>might not perceive it the same way that people on

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.240
<v Speaker 7>the left do, but that factors into their judgment about

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 7>what is going on. And so this whole thing of

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 7>like it being this massive mission. They could just be

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 7>doing enforcement with the coordination of state in OL government.

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:56.799
<v Speaker 7>It wouldn't be this kind of like spectacle, you know.

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 7>So they're opposed to all of it.

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:03.879
<v Speaker 2>How n only do the ICE agents view CBP? How

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>do CBP view ICE? And I'm thinking about this in

0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the context of, you know, we're starting to get the

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>demands from some Senate Democrats about the changes that they

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 2>would want to see in order to sign off on

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.760
<v Speaker 2>DHS funding. And one of the things is these CBP

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 2>agents they need to go back to the border. As

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 2>part of the switch out in leadership from Bavino to

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Tom Homan, some CBP agents were apparently pulled as well.

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 2>We have no idea how many. In any case, you'll

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 2>help us understand some of the cultural differences between those

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 2>two agencies.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so when it comes to border patrol, it's really

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 7>alarming some of the resources they're tapping. They've sent bord

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 7>Tac out, which is kind of like their version of

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 7>special Forces. And just so you said, culturally, culturally at

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 7>the border, it's a very different environment than it is

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 7>within the interior. I was talking to one border patrol

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 7>agency said, you know, you just have a lot fewer

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 7>civil liberties at the border, like when you're in an airport,

0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 7>for instance, because the laws are just completely different, and

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.120
<v Speaker 7>the idea at least is supposed to be like, okay, well,

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 7>this is like people entering the country, so it's kind

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 7>of like got to be a heightened state of security.

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's the mindset they come into this mission with.

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 1>And you can't just.

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 7>Snap your fingers say all right, now you're just in

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 7>an American city and you've got to forget all that.

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to forget that. Like, they have a

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.319
<v Speaker 1>very different world view.

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 7>They actually will have, you know, dealt with cartels and

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 7>things at some level, human trafficking at the border, and

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 7>so they bring all those assumptions and that lends to

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 7>Minneapolis or you know, whatever city, and that's how they're

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 7>going to see things. So, you know, and this was

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 7>a border patrol age and telling me this, it's like,

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's a very different world out there in

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 7>the Southwest where you have you know, coyotes and you

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.799
<v Speaker 7>have you have real human trafficking and you know, some

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 7>amount of it, like they didn't sound hysterical. But then

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 7>it's like you come into the city. Not only is

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 7>the population different, the attitudes are different. Like there are

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 7>all these videos of ice officers slipping and falling in

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 7>the ice.

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I asked them about that. They said, well, these.

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 7>Are boys from the Southwest, Like a lot of them

0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 7>have literally never been somewhere with they don't how to

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.879
<v Speaker 7>walk on it, so it's like they're in this far

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 7>away alien land that like sounds to me it's like

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:08.280
<v Speaker 7>they're talking about Vietnam where the locals hate them. No seriously,

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 7>like yeah, they don't know what's going on.

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:10.839
<v Speaker 1>They hate the.

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 7>Officer Corps, they don't trust the leadership, they don't want

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 7>to be here. And I was really surprised because I thought,

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 7>I assume there'd be some level of criticism, but it

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 7>was like far beyond like what you know, and including

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 7>from young recruits. One young recruit told me, he's like, yeah,

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 7>I looked at the other guys that joined along with me,

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 7>and it was like he said, the word he use

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 7>was sketchy. He said, these guys are passing a flask

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 7>around while we're supposed to be at a stakeout following

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 7>by the way, yeah, seriously, that's why I went. As

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 7>soon as I wrote that story, I started getting replies,

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 7>people posting video of ICE officers drinking at these hotels,

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 7>and it was like clear that this is like a

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 7>systemic thing more than just these crazy anecdotes that I got.

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, and you're go ahead, Crystal.

0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just gonna ask, you know, there's an

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 2>attempt from the administration right now to sort of send

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 2>out this. They're trying to do pr right, They're trying

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to say like this was some bad apples. Steven Miller

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 2>even came out and was like, these agents weren't falling protocol,

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 2>they weren't doing what we wanted them to do. There

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 2>was the leadership shift from Okay, we're sending Baveno back

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to California, he's getting demoted. We've got Tom Homan coming in.

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 2>He's the law enforcement professional. It's going to be a

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 2>totally different day and different approach. What have you found

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 2>in terms of what's being communicated internally about whether there

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:40.160
<v Speaker 2>is a true pivot here, Because while you know, obviously

0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and for understandable reasons, the murder of Renee Good and

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 2>of Alex pretty have really captured, you know, the public's

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 2>attention and have created a lot of horror. I talked

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 2>to legal analyst Kyle Chaney yesterday's tracking twenty three hundred

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 2>cases where the administration has just completely flouted judges orders

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and are arresting and deporting people illegally. So there is

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a systematic problem in the approach from top to bottom,

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 2>which is utterly lawless. You is there any indication that

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 2>there's an intent to change that overall approach?

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, and let's put be four up on the screen too,

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.360
<v Speaker 4>because Ken, this is you've got a Border Patrol memo

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 4>about the Funk reference. Yeah. So yeah, but we could

0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 4>throw a before up on the screen. Ken, this is

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:27.480
<v Speaker 4>your reporting. You obtained this memo, so tell us what

0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 4>this means.

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 7>So, after Bovino was reassigned and everybody sees this and

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 7>it leads to this discourse, a friend of mine in

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 7>CBP says, hey, we just got this, and you know,

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:41.959
<v Speaker 7>as it shows on the screen there, it says we're

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 7>at a quote steady states kind of military speak for

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 7>like everything's going to stay the same and we're going

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 7>to maintain it and the operations are going to continue

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 7>as planned.

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think that there's kind of a tug of

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 1>war going on right now.

0:59:53.480 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't think the right reaction to that is like, oh, nothing,

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, none of this made any difference.

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:58.720
<v Speaker 1>They're under a lot of pressu right now.

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 7>But Trump is being pulled by his base who doesn't

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 7>want him to concede anything. But then on the other side,

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 7>there's Congress has finally gotten off its ass and you know,

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 7>requested hearings and even the Republican leadership and a lot

1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 7>of these relevant committees. So he's under a lot of

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:16.760
<v Speaker 7>pressure right now to try to feel like he can

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 7>give both sides.

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Something.

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 7>But you know, I want to stress, like again, when

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 7>you talk to ICE in Border Patrol, they see this

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:28.520
<v Speaker 7>as devastating for the agency and as something that's going

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<v Speaker 7>to outlive the Trump administration. But to Crystal's point about

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<v Speaker 7>policies and what they're allowed to do, the admin is

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<v Speaker 7>talking out of both sides of its mouth because internally,

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<v Speaker 7>and I've reported a lot of these slides and briefings,

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<v Speaker 7>they're being told, oh, here's what you can't do. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>people are allowed to film you. They can even curse

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<v Speaker 7>at you and swear and things. So the legal counsel

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<v Speaker 7>within Homeland Security has basically said all the things they're

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to say. But it's kind of like they're fighting

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<v Speaker 7>against the ADMIN, which publicly is calling these guys terrorists.

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<v Speaker 7>And just think about, aside from policy, think about the

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<v Speaker 7>psychological like effect of your boss's boss's boss, the ADMIN

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<v Speaker 7>saying every day that it's some insurgency, it's terrorists, it's

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<v Speaker 7>an assault on liberty, they're going to overthrow the dark,

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<v Speaker 7>all these things, it's like, and then meanwhile, some lawyers, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>by the way, you can't do this, Like it's confusing,

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<v Speaker 7>and if you're a young recruit in particular, there won't

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<v Speaker 7>have been that sort of anybody's built up of like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 7>whoever's in the White House, this is how we do things.

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<v Speaker 7>Like they're going to listen to this stuff and consume

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<v Speaker 7>it and act on that basis.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of I mean, they killed the aid

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Ross, the guy who killed Renee Good. They called

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<v Speaker 2>him a hero. So and jade Van says, they have

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<v Speaker 2>absolute immunity, So what message does that send to people?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly the way that they want you to behave And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Jonathan Ross murdered renee Good. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Emily disagrees in what the legal definition would be. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you feel about that? Nobody, nobody who has looked

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<v Speaker 2>at this, nobody who has any law enforcement experience, thinks

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<v Speaker 2>that Jonathan Ross behaved in the correct way there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he put himself in danger by going in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle to begin with. Officer created jeopardy. And that

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<v Speaker 2>guy they called, they said he's a hero. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people were raising money for him. So of course that's

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<v Speaker 2>the message that's received, is like the most belligerent, aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>tactics against a group of people who have been labeled

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<v Speaker 2>literal domestic terrorists and are being entered into a database

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<v Speaker 2>and being tracked by our government as domestic terrorists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what sort of behavior do you think that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to create among not just the new recruits, but all

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. I mean the two killers here, well actually three,

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<v Speaker 2>because we now know there were two agents that fired

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<v Speaker 2>on Alex pretty these were not new recruits. These were

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<v Speaker 2>guys who had years and years of experience, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is you know, a very important fact here, because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just sort of shift it off to like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we got these new bunch of hooligans in and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, totally. And again it's an ideological thing. I mean

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<v Speaker 7>there's a range of people and people that talk to me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not a scientific sample. It wasn't a partisan sample

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<v Speaker 7>like some people are saying like, oh, just democrats, the

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<v Speaker 7>idea of democrats working for ICE.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of like democratic liberal ICE

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<v Speaker 2>agents guys. Come on, come on, yeah, signing bonus guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm sorry, I had to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>What are about for me? Journalism doesn't pay?

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<v Speaker 4>Man need more money for macha.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, you talk to these guys and it's like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, that's the way to advancement, that's the way

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<v Speaker 7>to you know, doing what they had been wants. And

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<v Speaker 7>you talked to about these briefings that they're getting where

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<v Speaker 7>they're like, oh, you can't do this and this. All

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<v Speaker 7>the agents I talked to were like, yeah, that's just

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<v Speaker 7>legal checking a box so that then the adamin can

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<v Speaker 7>say later if there's some kind of like investigation, like

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<v Speaker 7>what do you want? We had our legal compliance tell

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<v Speaker 7>them what they what they can do and what they

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<v Speaker 7>can't do. But what that's missing is like what you

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<v Speaker 7>just said fristal, which is that all the leaders are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know, uh, full immunity.

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<v Speaker 7>And when I ask the agents how that's received, they say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>that's everyone knows. That means we're going to have your

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<v Speaker 7>back if you if you get in trouble, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>how it's perceived. And that's I mean, that has to

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<v Speaker 7>be what it is intended to be too.

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<v Speaker 4>So it doesn't help you from state immunity. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they can say federal immunity as much as they want,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can the state of Minnesota can still go

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<v Speaker 4>after your Jaidevance doesn't have control over.

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<v Speaker 7>Them, right, And that's why all this is so important

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<v Speaker 7>because to the extent that Trump is even moderated, I

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<v Speaker 7>mean obviously there's you know, fair to criticize the cynicism there,

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<v Speaker 7>but the law enforcement will hear that and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>look they're getting a little wobbly. Maybe they maybe they

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<v Speaker 7>won't have my back as much as I thought. So

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<v Speaker 7>so you know, I have a comment.

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<v Speaker 2>And they won't if the going gets tough, they won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you should understand that Donald Trump is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to like save your ass if it is even slightly inconvenient.

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<v Speaker 1>For him totally, totally well.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken as always, thank you so much for your reporting

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<v Speaker 2>and for joining us to break it down. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's these were incredibly valuable insights.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you and thanks thanks for having me again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our pleasure anytime.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump went to Iowa yesterday as part of what

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<v Speaker 4>appears to be the CZ Wilds orchestrated economic messaging speaking tour.

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<v Speaker 4>It was supposed to be squarely focused. The event was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be squarely focused on drawing attention to what

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump believes is an economy and recovery after the

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<v Speaker 4>Biden administration. Instead, of course, it was overshadowed by the

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<v Speaker 4>situation in Minneapolis, just basically from start to finish, and Chris,

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<v Speaker 4>I watched the speech before we started this morning. It

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<v Speaker 4>was remarkable how often Trump was pivoting back to Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 4>and not just on the economy in general, of making

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<v Speaker 4>funeral right for being sleepy and crooked, but constantly reminded

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<v Speaker 4>me of like somebody who had a great high school

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<v Speaker 4>football career and now they're thirty and can't stop talking

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<v Speaker 4>about it. You say, he's constantly going back to high school.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's take a listen to what Trump said as

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<v Speaker 4>he talked with reporters on the ground in Iowa. Oh cool,

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<v Speaker 4>mister President. With the current value of the dollar, do

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<v Speaker 4>you think it's declined too much?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think it's great. I mean the value of

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<v Speaker 5>the dollar. Look at the business would no dollars doing great?

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<v Speaker 5>If a Democrat got half a point down? This is

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<v Speaker 5>like hundreds of Depending the way you want to calculate it,

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<v Speaker 5>you could say it's an eighty percent reduction, or you

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<v Speaker 5>could say it's one thousand percent reduction. You could say

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<v Speaker 5>whatever you want. But it's the biggest reduction in history

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<v Speaker 5>by many, many times. I think they're the best Paul numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>the real Paul numbers. I think we have the best

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<v Speaker 5>Paul numbers we've ever had. Think of it, if I

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<v Speaker 5>were to run again, if I ran again, would you

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<v Speaker 5>would anybody? So we have some of the best call

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<v Speaker 5>numbers we've ever had.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you all very much. Okay. So, then Trump stopped

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<v Speaker 4>by Fox News for an interview on the Will Kine

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<v Speaker 4>Show and was asked about farmers.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what he said, And by the way, I just

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<v Speaker 5>gave the farmers twelve billion dollars because they were treated unfairly.

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<v Speaker 5>We take it we'll take it in a fortune with tariffs.

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<v Speaker 5>And I wrote him a little check about two weeks

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<v Speaker 5>ago for twelve billion. Anybody in this room.

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<v Speaker 1>Get any of it yet?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, meanwhile, MS now did a man on the street

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<v Speaker 4>in what appears to be a Target parking lot in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what one woman told them. He needs to get

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<v Speaker 4>his act together, and our representatives here in Iowa need

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<v Speaker 4>to stop following his lead.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not voting from public again.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever vote for him first time around? And

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<v Speaker 4>he did a good job, but then he got stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Means that he just changed and it's all about him.

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<v Speaker 4>He thinks he's God.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can go ahead, and I love everything matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Just making me realize I want to go to target,

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<v Speaker 4>or need to go to target. Now, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 4>and put the Trump approval rating by state up on

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<v Speaker 4>the screen. We're going to skip ahead one element here

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<v Speaker 4>because Trump's approval rating in Iowa's hovering in the low forties.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is from USA today, but kind of across

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<v Speaker 4>the board. The couple of places I looked where they

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<v Speaker 4>have approval ratings on a state by state basis, had

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<v Speaker 4>him I think between forty around like forty four or

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<v Speaker 4>forty three percent approval in Iowa. So Trump talked about

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<v Speaker 4>Crystal was he was talking about how he brought John

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<v Speaker 4>Deere excavator manufacturing to North Carolina, got you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>plause for that. He's talking about how now you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to be a PhD to repair your tractor anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>and some lines that are economic populism, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>see why. At one point he asked the audience who

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<v Speaker 4>had a four o one guy? Because he was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to convince it. He was trying to convince everyone that

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<v Speaker 4>he's been he's been a huge economic boost to the

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<v Speaker 4>country because the stock market is going up. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 4>you talk about how he made a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>rich who hate him and all of that, but also

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<v Speaker 4>that normal people, you know, yesked He literally at that

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<v Speaker 4>point was like, who was a four oh one k?

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<v Speaker 4>But he constantly was saying, this is the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 4>We're crawling out of the hole, and we're doing such

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<v Speaker 4>a great job. Then he's also constantly getting diverted into

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<v Speaker 4>these tangents. The whole thing. I mean, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>all the headlines this morning. It was really really overshadowed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>even if you even if you agree with his economic messaging,

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<v Speaker 4>really overshadowed by Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, in Iowa has been sort of uniquely hurt

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<v Speaker 2>by the you know, the Trump tariff schemes. The soybean

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<v Speaker 2>issue there looms very large, and you know, the farmers

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard interviewed are like, yeah, we don't really

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<v Speaker 2>want a bailout from the government. We want to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to sell our crops like into a market. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we would like. And you have a put the

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<v Speaker 2>last element that we have here actually up on the

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<v Speaker 2>screen because this indicates, you know, is indicative of where

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<v Speaker 2>the public opinion is and how Republicans are faring in

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<v Speaker 2>the state. Iowa obviously a very rural state, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have a Democratic candidate for governor because their governor's race

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<v Speaker 2>is coming up this year, who was in was actually

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<v Speaker 2>leading the Republican Now, this was I think a Democratic poll,

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<v Speaker 2>so factor that in, but say they're like roughly tied,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know, you know, the people that I've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>with in the state actually feel like Democrats have a

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<v Speaker 2>shot there and maybe even an outside shot at an

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<v Speaker 2>open Senate seat. That is that is you know up

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<v Speaker 2>this time around, now, I'm not going to like put

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<v Speaker 2>my eggs in that basket. I think it's still unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, this is a state that Trump won handily, infamously,

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<v Speaker 2>and Seltzer thought it was going the other way. And

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<v Speaker 2>many people are saying, Emily, maybe she wasn't wrong. Just early.

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<v Speaker 4>You still got thousands of people to his rally yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, it's it's it's Iowa. It's a friendly

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<v Speaker 4>place for him overall. But if your approval rating is

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<v Speaker 4>down in the forties in a place that you've seen,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he talks about how much he loves Iowa.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a place where he's seen a lot of success

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<v Speaker 4>with economic populism. Those some of those candidates in Iowa

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<v Speaker 4>are talking a lot about anti trust and you started

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<v Speaker 4>to see a little bit of that from Brooke Rollins

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<v Speaker 4>and Gail Slater in the AG space. So but it

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<v Speaker 4>seems like they're out on an island like nobody is.

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<v Speaker 4>Because all of the corporate lobbyists who are hounding MAGA

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<v Speaker 4>in Washington, DC are picking up fancy new clients who

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<v Speaker 4>want them to prevent that from happening. And so there's

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<v Speaker 4>a long way to go if they want to have

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<v Speaker 4>an economic populism that farmers are ultimately really happy with,

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<v Speaker 4>apart from being sort of sated with bailouts like in

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<v Speaker 4>Trump one, they've been giving him a lot of grace

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<v Speaker 4>and patience because they know that they have that They've

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<v Speaker 4>been trying to get people's attention for years to what's

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<v Speaker 4>happened with China and trade deficits and the like. So

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<v Speaker 4>they it's not as though they're, you know, they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>things to continue as usual. They had reasons for putting

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<v Speaker 4>their hope and their eggs in the Trump basket, and

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<v Speaker 4>they've been very patient with him. But if things keep

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<v Speaker 4>looking the way that they're looking, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a much much harder case for him to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Iowa is an interesting test case as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because it really does get to the question of material politics.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say Iowa, it really is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>states that has suffered the most under Trump's economic policies.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just looking it up. They're ranked forty ninth

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<v Speaker 2>to fiftieth in terms of economic growth. They're ranked forty

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<v Speaker 2>eighth in terms of personal income growth, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things are not going well there. But because it is

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<v Speaker 2>a rural, culturally conservative state, you know, obviously Republicans for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, since the Obama era, he was the last

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<v Speaker 2>one Democrat to win Iowa, Republicans have cleaned up there

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<v Speaker 2>quite easily. So, you know, like I said, it will

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<v Speaker 2>be an interesting test case of the importance of material politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the other thing is Democrats obviously have to offer

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<v Speaker 2>something on that front that also looks measurably superior to

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<v Speaker 2>what they have got and enough for them to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of look away from the you know, the cultural issues

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<v Speaker 2>where they may disagree.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's a great point. Well, if there's

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<v Speaker 4>widespread dissatisfaction with and even just a lack of motivation

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<v Speaker 4>among Trump voters on the immigration issue come November because

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<v Speaker 4>they're demoralized that Christy Noan hasn't done a good job,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, even from the perspective of immigration hawks, that

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<v Speaker 4>can be a problem. Trump was repeatedly trying to all right,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, the reason he's like, I love Iowa, but

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that I'm here is to start spreading this

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<v Speaker 4>economic message for the midterms. You know, he said, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not here, You're not hearing much about affordability a new

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<v Speaker 4>word anymore. But everyone's saying, this is an affordability midterm cycle.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he's laying the groundwork for Republican loss in

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<v Speaker 4>the midterms. He said, did you know. He spent a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of time saying, did you know, everybody whose party

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<v Speaker 4>is in power and the presidency ends up losing those

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<v Speaker 4>first midterms and so lowering expectations a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 4>he was literally imploring, imploring the audience to remember like

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<v Speaker 4>the John Deere deal come midterm season, to remember their

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<v Speaker 4>four oh one ks come midterm season. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>where they're going with this. Meanwhile, let's put up this

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<v Speaker 4>post from Trump on True Social I'm hearing that the

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<v Speaker 4>great country of Iraq might make a very bad choice

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<v Speaker 4>by reinstalling Nori Almaliki as prime minister. And he goes

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<v Speaker 4>on to say, make a rock great again. This was

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<v Speaker 4>posted literally on his way to i Iowa to make

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<v Speaker 4>a pitch for his economic agenda. He's posting, make a

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<v Speaker 4>rock great again. Well, he is on the plane, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>sensibly from the timeline, he's saying make a rock great again.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the way back or once he got back,

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<v Speaker 2>he's threatening Iran again and threatening war with Iran again.

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<v Speaker 2>So good hard to get the economic message to really

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<v Speaker 2>break through when number one, people feel like the economy sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and number two, you're constantly, you know, doing these like

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<v Speaker 2>foreign adventures in a variety of new countries. Seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a new one pops up every day.

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<v Speaker 4>When we can put this Washington Post element up on

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<v Speaker 4>the screen. This was from yesterday as well. Facing US turmoil,

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<v Speaker 4>Europe in India announced blockbuster trade deals. So a major

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<v Speaker 4>free trade negotiation between Europe and India announced yesterday. Yesterday, Crystal.

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<v Speaker 4>So that question of you know, Mark Carney's speech in

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<v Speaker 4>Davos last week about the fiction, the polite fiction of

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<v Speaker 4>the international rules based order crumbling, where he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make overtures to China. We'll see how that pans out,

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<v Speaker 4>but where he's trying at least to move Canada closer

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<v Speaker 4>to China amidst all of the threats from the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>which we were promised by Gavin Newsom was just a temporary,

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<v Speaker 4>a temporary disruption. We'll see how temporary it is. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's dormant, right is I think the word that he used,

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<v Speaker 4>the relationship is dormant. Some of these relationships are dormant.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you have Europe and India trying to move closer together,

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<v Speaker 4>and the realignment is happening in the background here. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's unclear what happens at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>If when Trump leaves office, maybe a Democratic president comes in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Possiblely Gavin Newsom is right, and these relationships were dormant,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's an effort to kind of rebuild, but meaningful

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<v Speaker 4>that these relationships are now sprouting up or closening opening

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<v Speaker 4>during the second Trump administration, m