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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So okay.

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Speaker 1: So the answer was now.

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Speaker 3: And can you hear it? Because you do have headphones.

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Speaker 2: I'm only holding that I can this hole?

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Speaker 1: Can hear them? Like? Can you hear the theme song?

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Speaker 4: So I just put the headphones up to my and

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Speaker 4: I heard just a faint like, so, I think you

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Speaker 1: Make it louder.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put the cans on just to seem like level.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that'll actually be good to have somebody.

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Speaker 1: So they made us feel can you hear me? So low?

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Speaker 1: Though okay is very low?

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Speaker 2: A little low in the playing.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of mixing with the being so loud.

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Speaker 4: Because he said, myself at all in the cans, I'm

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Speaker 3: Okay, can you hear yourself?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Are you talking to me?

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Speaker 3: He said can you hear yourself? But he was talking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but what Casey's saying is not like can

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Speaker 1: you hear yourself in the headphones. He's saying like, can

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's saying, I sound like an asshole?

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Speaker 1: Can I be honest?

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Speaker 3: I think he thinks that's what the Verizon guy used.

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Speaker 2: To say, can you hear yourself? Can you hear yourself?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: The guy that then went on to work for Sprint. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I got a big zero in my in my cans,

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Speaker 4: and I'm also noticing nobody else is wearing cans.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so this is sort of head gums policy.

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Speaker 3: They said they're like taking podcasts back from the left

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Speaker 4: They're like, well, that explains the big woke with a

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Speaker 1: The cans are actively making this harder. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, they.

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Speaker 3: Find headphones to be like feminine, infantilizing or something like.

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Speaker 3: The language was confusing to me, but basically we were like,

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Speaker 3: can we have headphones? And they were like, oh, I

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Speaker 4: Well, and the passive aggressive move clearly from them is

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They they always sound bad and they do put them

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Speaker 3: out how and they go, we have your headphones here,

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Speaker 1: You need that, the woke sign is that. So the

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Speaker 1: O is a red circle inside the symbol is Scott Ackerman. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's like the symbol of like the progressive Yeah uh,

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Speaker 1: It's a great sign.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think give him like, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: I started? I want to bring clear in because it

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Speaker 5: I am so happy you're saying this because I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know, when Kevin emailed me, I was like, my

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Speaker 1: Be people right. And so you were just not going

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Speaker 2: Flushed.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it's it's yes, into the open sewer of

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Speaker 4: But but now is there going to be a flush

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's all I hear when I'm going to

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Speaker 3: That would be to me, that is the next level

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Speaker 3: to talk about. And I think, Hayes, you're being very fair.

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Speaker 3: You're being very kind. What Clia has done is worse

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Speaker 3: than how you're characterizing it. And yet the industry is

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Speaker 3: at a crossroads. Yes, it's a moment of upheaval. And

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Speaker 3: it's not just our project that was flushed, and it's

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Speaker 3: not just Clia who's a bad actor in this situation.

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Speaker 3: We have all kinds of things that have been frozen,

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Speaker 3: thrown away, sidelined, production shut down, like you know, there's striking,

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Speaker 3: Forget whose fault it was, maybe it was never a movie.

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Speaker 3: What I think is so Love and Santa Jason, Are

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Speaker 4: Of course, you know, as a someone who's been listening

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, since you.

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Speaker 2: Guys were talking about reality shows, I've been listening.

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Speaker 1: To you break it back. You didn't just find out

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Speaker 4: No, I have the way you talk about it. He

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Speaker 4: need your thoughts. I need you are you know? I

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Speaker 1: Okay, and that's.

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Speaker 4: The app I open first because I want to know

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Speaker 3: Why the two different apps because.

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Speaker 4: I have one Hollywood Handbook dedicated app. Okay, I've got

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Speaker 4: one app you can change, can change app names. So

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Speaker 4: I've got a podcast app that's just called the Boys.

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Speaker 4: It's an app dedicated to you guys. So yes, I'm

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Speaker 4: familiar with the project. How I'm familiar with Mary Hollins involvement.

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Speaker 4: I'm familiar with Mackenzie Davis's involvement. Okay, these are these

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Speaker 2: These are bold face names.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, and they are both out like I just

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Speaker 1: Which which let me be?

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, great, I'm okay with I think they're both

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Speaker 1: They didn't get I bet them both.

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Speaker 4: I'll say it, not talented, nasty and nasty, nasty ladies

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was people like fulfill like the reason

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Speaker 5: And I mean truthfully, I was kind of burning them

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you know, like I signed them for like

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Speaker 1: Yeah we're good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good.

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Speaker 5: So but I thought, you know, like I'm glad Jason

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Speaker 4: I don't know, a couple of bad. I was so

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Speaker 2: Can you come on emailing fool like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, man, a lot of works the body. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I went and so fast and furious fast ten so good.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're well.

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Speaker 4: Remember we got a podcast coming up today and just

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Speaker 4: I just want to know where's the studio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Usually usually when somebody says this could have been an email,

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Speaker 3: with Kevin, what they're referring to is twenty to thirty emails.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's like this could have been an email.

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Speaker 3: The feeling that I have.

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Speaker 4: Kevin's doing a thing where if you stitch all of

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Speaker 2: Of creative writing.

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Speaker 4: Oh you know what I mean, like without all the

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Speaker 4: business elements. Yeah, he's forging friendships.

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Speaker 2: I think, uh huh wow.

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Speaker 1: In a croissantic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a ciss across sticks yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, lacrosse decks, lacrosse decks.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the first. The first, The letter of every

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about podcasts and sort of the

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Speaker 1: writers are on strike, like you said, pencils are shutting.

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Speaker 3: Down, pencils down, pencils down.

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Speaker 1: And so when we talked about potentially converting this property

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Speaker 3: Of course, there are opportunists that are going to cynically

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Speaker 3: What I'll say about this project for us is sure

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Speaker 1: Only will we go baddie end up a rubber room,

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Speaker 3: Fire in the pool, you know, splash them a little bit, yeah, splash, yeah, throw.

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Speaker 4: No matter where you are in the country, you're going

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Speaker 2: Can you move your microphone.

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Speaker 3: A little closer to your mouth like this, Wow, that

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: The kind of thing Kevin that if everybody was wearing

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Speaker 1: Not really a Kevin thing. They made us feel very

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Speaker 4: In, because you're on camera. They don't want you wearing

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Speaker 5: This is a lot of mixed messaging.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And I said, don't have to go that high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's oh he's got locked in. No, but it's just, uh,

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Speaker 4: Bringing up the test thing? Really seemed he like could

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Speaker 3: I don't think he can. I mean, we've been put

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Speaker 3: go ahead, wow, like fire my ass, like do your worst.

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Speaker 3: I was doing fine before head gum not that good,

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Speaker 3: So like, you know, like go ahead and fire me.

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Speaker 3: But maybe Hayes is going to cause that to happen now, Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can just talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't mean Hi, Anya, Hi. I wasn't

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so your swab broke off the end of it,

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Speaker 1: It broke off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then it worked, and then she mauged it worked.

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Speaker 1: And there could still be I actually am not sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, After how far she went into Jason's and the

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Speaker 2: It was like crazy and said still, sit still, sit still.

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Speaker 1: You were in a meeting before when you came in here,

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Speaker 8: It was about how we dynamically insert the headgum stingers

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Speaker 1: Dynamically inserting a huge piece of shrapnel.

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Speaker 3: It's a in Hayes' damn brain.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the second part of the meeting.

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Speaker 1: But I just needed I just needed confirmation for what happened.

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Speaker 3: I was standing right next to you, and I honestly

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Speaker 4: It almost felt like it was a prank, Like it

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Speaker 8: Well, so, Jason's right, we were kind of hoping you

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Speaker 3: Like now that we were just like, let's scratch like

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Speaker 3: it's so toxic. Like you can take a mirror and

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Speaker 3: You know, Well, Jake got pranked essentially to death.

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Speaker 8: All right, Pete, to do the prank thing over there

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Speaker 1: were like, oh yeah, this is some other guy that

449
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: that works here, another co founder. You had to create

450
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: a new really, but we have to talk about love

451
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry, we like, now I can't. We

452
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: got to talk about really have to get into this

453
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: and we need to have like an internal conversation about that,

454
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: Like we really have to like in a meeting, okay,

455
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: and so you guys want to be there, okay, Okay,

456
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: sounds good, thank you, thank you. So that was really

457
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: scary what happened to me.

458
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: You should talk to a lawyer.

459
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: Let's get it, Like, I mean, that's like part of

460
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: the contract.

461
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: Usually people have like an idea, it's all settled.

462
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: By arbitration and everything that, Like they just kept talking

463
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: about arbitration action. We need like internal arbitration, which to me,

464
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, it doesn't seem it doesn't seem good for us.

465
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: It seems like you guys are in a bad deal.

466
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, But.

467
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 5: Any idea, well, it can maybe get you out of it.

468
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: This is like.

469
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: Santa is the past, Like I.

470
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 5: Really do, I really believe that this could, you know,

471
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 5: get you out of this toxic and dangerous environment.

472
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: If we were kind of viral in one moment, I

473
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: almost don't even want to like jinx it like that

474
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: because I want I want to go viral so much.

475
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 3: If it was legitimately viral, I would straight up tell

476
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: Headgum and all the monsters here.

477
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 7: To fully kiss my grits.

478
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: Wow, I would say that.

479
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: I would just say nothing. Well otherwise you know, I mean,

480
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm yeah.

481
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 4: But you aren't saying it here now on the stream.

482
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: So people could clip this and and.

483
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: Make a viral.

484
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 3: They could, Yeah, well, me saying kiss my grits goes

485
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: to my own what is that?

486
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: And Kevin probably wouldn't. Kevin's choices for like what the

487
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: clip are like, so the the least, Yeah, he's yeah,

488
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: He's like, let's put it that way. Yeah, Kevin clips

489
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: is the anti clips.

490
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: They're fighting the virus for sure.

491
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Speaker 6: This week on the Patreon, the boys discuss Headgums studio

492
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Speaker 6: rules on the pro version, and the flager Ones are

493
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494
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496
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497
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498
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Speaker 6: in the episode description. Check out all these shows and

499
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500
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Speaker 6: patreon dot com. Slash the flagrant ones.

501
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Speaker 1: I think when we started to do Love and Santa

502
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: back in decem was when we were sort of thinking

503
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: about like making a deal, like with talking to Headgum

504
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I think the hope was

505
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: that we could just like use Love in Santa or

506
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: like use head Gum to kind of drive up the

507
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: Love and Santa deal a little bit. But Love and

508
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: Santa has been such a disaster that it has actually

509
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: ended up.

510
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: It's radioactive, it's a radioactive property. I mean it was

511
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: actually it was put into the deal points that like

512
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: head Gum would not.

513
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Be associated with Love and Santa.

514
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: Yes, so like this episode doesn't even count towards our contract.

515
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 5: With them, And every time a new version of Love

516
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: and Santa was proposed, your deal went down. Yeah, several

517
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 5: thousand dollars is what I also heard.

518
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: That's right.

519
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: There weren't a lot to spare.

520
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: Well, I'm broke, so I need this, I need I

521
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 5: need this good.

522
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad and should now that the stress is on.

523
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if I can be involved in any way,

524
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm on board. Dude.

525
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: Yes, we need we need you.

526
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: So what this is the core elements are It's a swimply.

527
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 5: Oh, we didn't hear about You didn't hear about swimpley.

528
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 5: Swimple is out. They yeah, swimples out. And I'm not

529
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: going to blame it completely on Mackenzie, but she didn't help.

530
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 5: But I did secure someone new a new investor Swamply,

531
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 5: which it's people renting. It's same concept, but they are swamps,

532
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: which which I actually think is better. I think it

533
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 5: is better.

534
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: How is it better.

535
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: Because I don't because I don't see people as enthusiastic

536
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: about renting a swamp.

537
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be about renting like a nice pool.

538
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 5: But you think that, but it's like pools, like everybody

539
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 5: goes like everybody has a pool.

540
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yes, that's what makes swimp lely. So Mark,

541
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: people really want to swim in a pool.

542
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 5: Yes, but have you ever swam in a swamp.

543
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: There's bugs and stuff.

544
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: Exactly, But it's just it's giving people no experiences exactly.

545
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: What is nice about a swamp, I will say, is

546
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: like you can rent that swamp, party hard, trash the place,

547
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: walk out and it'll just.

548
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: The bottom. You never hear about swamp pollution exactly exactly,

549
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: or saving them no one else.

550
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: No, that's cool about the swamps. Like driving an old

551
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: beater around town, you know.

552
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: What I mean? A scratch on my ride?

553
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, make yourself comfortable.

554
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 5: It gives the more specificity. I think. Also just to

555
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: the store, like it's that's a tone that I think we're.

556
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: In a swamp.

557
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: That Santa o d he's in a swamp.

558
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: Yes, And that they're having I guess a Father's Day

559
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: event all fathers.

560
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: They're going to no kids, it's Father's Day. They're not

561
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: going to go to Carsons for Father's Day this year.

562
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: They go every year, but they promised, we're not going

563
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: to go to Carson. Always say we're not going to go.

564
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: We always end up going. I'm not caving this year.

565
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: I'm not going to Carsons for Father's Day. I'm going

566
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: to a swamp.

567
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: And so instead, how about I'm going to the.

568
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Swamp and that's why we bring Jason, and then I'm

569
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: going to do.

570
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: That make it feel more like a destination, not just

571
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: a any old swamp.

572
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to the.

573
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: Swamp, Okay, and now I want to go?

574
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, who doesn't if you feel like there's only one

575
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: it's like the North Pole, Yeah, you know it goes

576
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: to the North.

577
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Pole goes to right, and we can figure out if

578
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: we can take like whatever swamp we end up like

579
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: scouting and like it's right if we can make that

580
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: the swamp, like, that's huge.

581
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: There is only one on the site currently because it

582
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: is like it is a startup, so we have to use.

583
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: So swamply is it booked at all?

584
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: It's it is pretty booked, but.

585
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: It's a podcast.

586
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that we need the swamp, but I

587
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: love it to sound.

588
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Authentic thinking about podcasts and Jason, like you having some

589
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: expertise on this, the combination of podcasting and air boats.

590
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Love it?

591
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it.

592
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: Okay, that was a huge I don't think it should

593
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: be at all.

594
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I.

595
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: Think that's gonna be. I think that's additive to the project.

596
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: It's like the loudest way to move. Yes, any kind

597
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: of fan boat, any kind of I think what people

598
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: are craving inside of content is authenticity. Okay, that is

599
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: the most important itty.

600
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: We can barely get bullshit.

601
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: Man, look at this ship. This is fake man.

602
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: But that's the thing is you're really kicking that real

603
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: table and that people know they're listening to this and

604
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: they can hear that now, if you were saying just

605
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: dump those sound effects in the modern audience is hip

606
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: to all this manufactured bullshit.

607
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: This is mister toilet flush.

608
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: I mean you remember he wanted a real toilet.

609
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: When I said, is the bathroom miked? What's miked in here?

610
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: Now?

611
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: Now I know the bathroom is not miked, which I

612
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: think is a huge mistake for myriad reasons.

613
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: But did you notice they answer too fast? Yeah?

614
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: Right, And they said, you know, why what did you hear?

615
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: And I said, no, what I heard is I want

616
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: there to be flushes when I want flushes.

617
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta we gotta have that flush sound available.

618
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: It should be real to.

619
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: Be know, why what did I hear?

620
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, what did you hear?

621
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: And also what would be think about this?

622
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be great if you're doing the show in here,

623
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: right and there's a green light that goes on boom,

624
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: that means someone in there. So now you know there's

625
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: gonna be a flush soon, So now you can kind

626
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: of you can play to that impending flush. You you

627
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: can start seeding stuff, you can start playing with whoever's

628
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: in the bathroom.

629
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: They don't even know that.

630
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Anticipation for that for that when you're on the plane

631
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: and you see the light turned green to red and

632
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: everyone just kind of leans for.

633
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's thrilling to me.

634
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 7: It's not necessarily about the flush itself, but withholding the

635
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 7: flow until.

636
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: They crave the flush, you know what I mean.

637
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: And people at home with the ag they cannot they

638
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: can't contain it this. I mean that if I heard,

639
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: if I'm just on the pod listening at home, the

640
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: minute I know there's a flush coming, I need to

641
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: go to the I'm gonna You're you're making people have

642
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: cravings of their own or impulses of their own.

643
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: I would need to go to the bathroom.

644
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: Think of how like effective that would be to really

645
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: control the habits of your listener. If you could put

646
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: some of that into Love and Santa the podcast, to force.

647
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: Someone to go to the bathroom against their will.

648
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: Now podcast, now, think about that in terms of the swamp.

649
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: That's why sorry not to bring this whole record in

650
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: the swamp, right, That's why you record onto the swamp.

651
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: You say there's only one swamp? Is what kind of swamp?

652
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: Is this? Like a cages?

653
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a byous situation.

654
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I mean, because that's that's a Santa.

655
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: We never get to see exactly Santa making gumbo Santa

656
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: doing craw like a Cajun Santa, like by you Santa.

657
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: We've never seen it.

658
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gators instead of reindeer, I mean, I mean huge.

659
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: Huge, Yeah, right, same names, I mean yeah, kind of yeah.

660
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 5: Well, we can't change that because we have to be

661
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: really catch what we changed. Okay, so we got to

662
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 5: keep those.

663
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: That's right.

664
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: So we can't change can't change any writing because pencils down.

665
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: Pencils down, it is right. But we can kind of

666
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: nudge yeah, gosh, it makes a mark on the script

667
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: and kind of just you know, yeah it it's a

668
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: little parenthetical Cajun accent.

669
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: In some of these lines.

670
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of them would work. Are we doing

671
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: anything with Giant and Ladden was the Giant robot and

672
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: coming out of the ocean.

673
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I was nervous.

674
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 4: I was being asked here to play Osama big Laden,

675
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: so thrilled that that hasn't come across the transom.

676
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think, you know, in a movie

677
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: like this, I mean.

678
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: He's somebody that was known to hide in places like

679
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: the caves of So why wouldn't he maybe be in

680
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 4: a swamp.

681
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: Well, he's hiding caves and I believe got dumped into

682
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 3: the ocean. Correct, And as we just said, it drains

683
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: into the swamp.

684
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it couldn't be just a corpse.

685
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Well he's like, he's bad, perfectly preserved by the swamp.

686
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: The powers of the swamp, right, the sulfurs and the

687
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: bubbling ooze that comprises the swamp is like, you know,

688
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: given new life.

689
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: Something that we didn't really get to last time was yeah,

690
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: go ahead, no, no, no, he so he before it

691
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: was the ocean, now it's the swamp. He raises out

692
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 5: of the swamp. And and then what like I think

693
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 5: that we caught up right.

694
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: We had it was something like, yeah, we were updating

695
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: some of the concepts. It was seal teen six.

696
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and that's where Sean came in.

697
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, Sean. It was a It was one person

698
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: whose name was Neil. Yes, it was.

699
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: The problem was that it was a six year old.

700
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: You guys who were possibly saying it could be a

701
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: sixteen year old.

702
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: Ye, And then I.

703
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 5: Would play and then you would play it. I don't

704
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 5: listen to the episodes because they are so painful to

705
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 5: live through.

706
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: So I sing on the other end of them. Some

707
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: of the ship you're doing during some of them.

708
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: Man, I'm not, I'm not I'm not doing it. I'm

709
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 5: not taking the bait. I'm not taking the bait.

710
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 3: There's no bait here, Like we're just having a conversation.

711
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: There should be.

712
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Yes, you get bait, you rent.

713
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 4: The fan boat, like that is the that is the

714
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: between civilization and the deep swamp. Yeah, this is the

715
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: last vestige of what and it's just somebody something like

716
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 4: a shalube or somebody runs the bait shop or something.

717
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: I love it.

718
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Yes, if you can't if you've worked with Amazon, it's like,

719
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: if we can get a thing where you can just

720
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: like click and just like get bait.

721
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, just comes out of the podcast or whatever.

722
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 5: I feel like they're they're working on that technology. It's

724
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: only subscribe and save right now. Okay, So I think

725
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: for singular orders, like that's not gonna happen. But I think,

726
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 5: but people are going you know, this is writ.

727
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: In the sense that you should be able to click

728
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: inside the podcast for products.

729
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: This is what I'm wondering, Like we're talking about this

730
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: as a podcast but it's feeling very visual to me. Yeah,

731
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: like it's feeling very exciting visually, so.

732
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: A visual podcast, which is what we're doing currently.

733
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering if we have ai An made this.

734
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Wow.

735
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: I've seen it make like and not in America and

736
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: Aquaman race each other on the motorcycles and they both explode.

737
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: I've seen it.

738
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: We've seen pretty We've seen it do some pretty killer stuff.

739
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I know, and they get the fingers and teeth weird

740
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: and stuff. But isn't that kind of good.

741
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: Swap swamp zombie big Lotted.

742
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: It's like being lauded.

743
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: Bang Lot.

744
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: For a I that could the a I could actually

745
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: be like into that. We're like trying to sweep the deal.

746
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 4: And how big do you think big Lot is? Because

747
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: he the man himself was large. I like to say

748
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 4: that he's big, big really.

749
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: Something he was rising about of the ocean. Now he's

750
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: rising up out of the swamp.

751
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: So it is a kaiju kind of thing.

752
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the swamp is like not, it's kind

753
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: of not that big, not as big. Yeah, and I

754
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: think it's kind of pretty shallow.

755
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: But I think that's good.

756
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Seven.

757
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, that's fine Okay.

758
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, before I was thinking he was like four or like.

759
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: Then we can't call him then we can't call him

760
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: big lots little.

761
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: And bigger seven? He was he was, Yeah, he was,

762
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: I know, But that's what I'm saying, like if you

763
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: met like the difference between him being six.

764
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: We're making him wider. Yes, we're making him wider.

765
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, we don't want like a yao situation where

766
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: like his feet are like giving up on him, but

767
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: before he's done with.

768
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: The gave up, they just don't anymore.

769
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: They quit. Man, the feet were done quitting. Yeah, they walked.

770
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 5: So Laden rightide of this and and Santa try Then

771
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 5: Santa fights Ben Laden. I guess that was the thing

772
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 5: that I really got hung up on. He comes out

773
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: of the swamp and then what does Santa do, Like

774
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 5: Santa fights him?

775
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: Well, I want to say this just to explore it.

776
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: And maybe it's not the idea. Maybe it's the idea

777
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: that gets us to the idea.

778
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: But so.

779
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna see Big Laden. We're going to expect him

780
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: to be a baddie, but what if he's there to

781
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: help Santa, okay, and deliver presents.

782
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: Big Laden is delivering presence.

783
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: Big It's interesting Santa died, who will drive the sled?

784
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: Who would you expect Less to step into that role?

785
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: But Big lot Yeah.

786
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying, is like the fact that

787
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: it's surprising, the fact that you couldn't predict it, Isn't

788
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: that what makes this a story worth telling?

789
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we've seen.

790
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: Santa deliver presence, that's check that one off. You know,

791
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: we've got enough of that. I haven't seen Santa ode

792
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: in a swamp and then Big Lodden rises out in

793
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: some kind of zombie form. He's the only one that

794
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: can drive the sleigh and he makes Christmas happen.

795
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: But I just want to make clear what you're saying.

796
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: It's not that Santa O d's in the swamp, goes

797
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: into the swamp and then emerges as Big Lotty. No,

798
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: this isn't a transformation. The swamp doesn't transform him.

799
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: No. And the timing is coincidental.

800
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.

801
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: Timing is that's you know, that's a little movie magic.

802
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: And we may want to bolster that that this is

803
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: a special day in the swamp or something, or it's

804
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: got extra juices.

805
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: Well my Father's Day.

806
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he has to both of them are

807
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: fathers Santa, and yeah, it's it's it's.

808
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: What unites them.

809
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe there's some shared magical thread that connects the

810
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: two of them.

811
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: And the story of like someone that doesn't understand the

812
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: spirit of the holiday, like taking over for Santa. Like, honestly,

813
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: who is grinchier than the Big Lot? Is there a

814
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: bigger real.

815
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: Life Grinch in our modern American history?

816
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: The Big Lot?

817
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: And you know another Scrooge, a greater Scrooge I cannot

818
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: think of.

819
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Makes Yeah, the real Grinch used to like kind of

820
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: like kick his dog on the butt like a little bit,

821
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: not even like that much.

822
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: But also the dog was resilient. There was a there,

823
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 3: there was a relationship there.

824
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: Do you want to like, you know, in a in

825
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: a green she kind of do you want to tie

826
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: it too much to Santa and a Christmas carol? Like

827
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: do you want big Laden saying things like ba humbug?

828
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: Do you want to lean into those troops? Or is

829
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: this truly like a Father's Day? We're gonna once Santa

830
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 4: is dead, We're not even engaging in Christmas storytelling anymore?

831
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: Well, should he I mean, should he absorb sort of

832
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: some of Santa's magic and then also absorb maybe some

833
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: of his Cajun influence that I think we're going to miss,

834
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: you know, in the second half of the movie if

835
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: we don't keep that alive. And I'd love to have

836
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: him say bah humbugs something like that, copyright issues. I

837
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: don't know if he could, he probably could say something like,

838
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: drink athletic greens. AG one is full of vitamins.

839
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: Wait this Sorry, this feels like an ad.

840
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: It's a podcast.

841
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: It's a podcast, man, But you are ever listening it up?

842
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: But didn't you?

843
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

844
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: Green? And are doing? Are you doing? And is this

845
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: a dynamic on the show? Inside the show, I'm just.

846
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Exactly inserting his greens, you know.

847
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm feeling a lot more dynamic now that I've

848
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: got all these unique vitamins and minerals.

849
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 5: Are simple powder on that here.

850
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: That's coming.

851
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that's I would be great.

852
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: We've been talking. We've been talking to Fake Jake, talking

853
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: to Marty out there about it.

854
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: The the Cajun thing. I'm a little I was just

855
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: looking up. I just like to do like due diligence,

856
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, like I trust you. Yeah, but or at

857
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: least I think you think what you're saying is is real.

858
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: But like I you know, just gotta just gotta check.

859
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: There is a swamply. There is only one swamply location

860
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: that was all accurate. It is like pretty booked up,

861
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: but there are windows, that's all correct. You didn't say

862
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: exactly where you said it was a Cajun swamp, which

863
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: I guess it is. It's in Santa Fe, which is

864
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: considered And I love Santa Fe. Any excuse to like go.

865
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I love the different jewels and like.

866
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: The mesas Yes, well branking bad.

867
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: Albuquerque, but that's okay.

868
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: So close though, do they ever drive through? You know?

869
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: Just the fact that there that there's a swamp, that

870
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: that's where the swamp is, I don't know if it's

871
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: naturally occurring. Doesn't look like it. It looks like a

872
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: very big spill of some kind. And the fact that

873
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: it's Cajun in Santa Fe. I almost were just even

874
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: looking at it. I almost worried that whatever spilled has

875
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: like made people there Cajun in some way.

876
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we to be clear, no one can

877
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: go in the swamp. Oh, we can't can't touch the

878
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: liquid that is, it can't even can't even like legally

879
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 5: call it water in the swamp. Yeah okay, but and

880
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: we need to stay maybe one hundred yards to be

881
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: safe away from the swamp, So we'll have to do

882
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: a lot with the camera, okay, which you know might

883
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 5: be might be a case to keep it a podcast

884
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: just because of the proximity to the swamp.

885
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: Like we could put like the visual element.

886
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 5: You know that reaches so we can hear the swamp.

887
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: But I love to hear my director say we'll have

888
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: to do a lot with the camera.

889
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: That's like, yeah, well, but to be clear, we are

890
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: we are, I believe talking about a podcast.

891
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah well, well now we were, and then like she's

892
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: talking about the camera, okay, okay, we had you know,

893
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: we had also discussed at one point having AI animate

894
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: the podcast by a visual element.

895
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't think again, I think the AI

896
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: thing is, you know, that's distracting everybody from the real

897
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: conversation that needs to be had. You know, it just

898
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: feels like something that's getting floated out here so that

899
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: we get distracted and talk about AI a bunch. But

900
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: to me, I mean, I'm here because I think the

901
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: like long form narrative podcast potential in What you guys

902
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: are talking about is thought dot thought limitless.

903
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: Right, And that's where it's at still, Like why just

904
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: have people like sit down and just like talk and

905
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: like not put money into the front end of a podcast,

906
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

907
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: But about something?

908
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: Yes, they give you something that isn't just idiots sitting

909
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: around talking about something dumb that it's really like, Oh, no,

910
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: here is us, here's how about this? Here's storytelling.

911
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: We used to think this was important.

912
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: We used to gather around a fire and tell stories.

913
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: And it's no longer pretending that you have friends hanging

914
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: out with you when you're in your car. It's pretending

915
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: that you're watching a movie that has no pictures that's

916
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: not as well executed. Like, that's the fucking future.

917
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 2: Of the mind.

918
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: That's podcasts. Yes, that's podcasts.

919
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: That's podcast that's a real toilet flush.

920
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know that's so cool man. Yeah, I'm

921
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: inspired now I think you're right.

922
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: We're are we going like, like, this is my question.

923
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: You say we need the authenticity we can't get you

924
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: said one hundred feet Yeah, okay, so there's some wiggle

925
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: room there.

926
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: We have some little.

927
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: Room to be further away mm, so anything more than

928
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: one hundred feet works, which is a lot.

929
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: Well, we're much more than one hundred feet from it

930
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: right now.

931
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And.

932
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: If we just MIC's on the swamp, you know, right

933
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: now hearing all the gurgling and the bubbling and the.

934
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Splu Like we have to be so far away where

935
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: like we're negotiating ourselves farther away from the swamp. I

936
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: don't know like how we're going to get the sounds.

937
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: I would love to get something like just the effect

938
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: of like big lot and like rising out of it.

939
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: I do think we need we don't have a big lot.

940
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: And still Jason is kind of like that seems like that's.

941
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: I don't think we should jump up on that line.

942
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: The things that danger is.

943
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: I feel like Cleon and I are here telling you

944
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: guys how it can be done, and you're giving me

945
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 4: a lot of why it can't be done, And I'm wondering,

946
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: I guess, are you committed clear to doing this project

947
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: with these guys, Because there are other podcasts, other podcast networks,

948
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 4: other people podcasting who would like love to figure out

949
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 4: the problems, not just establish them for you and let

950
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: you flail around in the solution.

951
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 5: I would I would love that. I haven't been invited

952
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 5: on any other podcasts, got it. So it's not it's

953
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 5: not for lack of desire on my part, it's lack

954
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 5: of interest in interesting.

955
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: I think the COVID test went a little too high

956
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: up on this guy. He's got some bad ideas. You know,

957
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: you don't want to you don't want to listen to

958
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: any of that, you know. Us identifying problems is a

959
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: huge feature of working with us.

960
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: We see the issue before.

961
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 3: It becomes an issue, right, and we and we iron

962
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: it out. Is it a pleasant process? Is it nice

963
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: to spend time with us? Absolutely not. But that's not

964
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: what the work is about.

965
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 5: And that's what they keep telling me. And that's why

966
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 5: I'm still here.

967
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: It's tough.

968
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: It's tough, you know, because I'm like, I'm here, like

969
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: I want to roll up my sleeves and get my

970
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: hands dirty on making this and and even like the

971
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: reality of like, oh, it's not a pool anymore. It's

972
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: a swamp. That is negative. But I'm trying to see

973
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: it only as a positive. And it's an opportunity, an

974
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 4: opportunity to tell a swamp story rather than a pool story.

975
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: And guess what, more people listening to podcasts right now

976
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: have headphones on and are sitting next to a swamp

977
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 4: than are sitting.

978
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: Next to a pool.

979
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we need to be.

980
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: Making podcasts for the swamp people. Yeah, not the pool people.

981
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: That's why we're pencils down because it's too many pools.

982
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm tired of.

983
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: I'm tired of putting more pools in Ted Surrandos's backyard.

984
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: The guy's got nine pools.

985
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: The pool peoples are the one that shuts are the

986
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 3: problems because they don't want to pay the swamp people

987
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: enough to keep.

988
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 2: Pay the swamp pay the swamp people.

989
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: We're just looking for two percent for the swamp people

990
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 4: from the one percent pool people.

991
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. Wow, wow, Well, I do think we should

992
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: have Kevin make the swamp noise have been loud and

993
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: emerging uh.

994
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: From now, we should have him do it.

995
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: I think we should have him do it just to

996
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 3: see if we actually do need to go there. I

997
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: love what you said about a long form narrative podcast,

998
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: and just hearing long made me think, like God, we

999
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: could make this so fucking long right, absolutely, like we

1000
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: could do it forever, Like why.

1001
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: Ya five hundred episodes at least, which seemingly is forever.

1002
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, five hundred episodes, like if.

1003
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 5: Every episode is a big lot and giving a present

1004
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 5: to a different father, that is like, yeah, that's millions

1005
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 5: of emsophies.

1006
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do like a quantum leap style great touch

1007
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: by type.

1008
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: Thing, and you can go through times, you can go

1009
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 4: back and get every different Yes.

1010
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: It's episodic. Yes, it's serialized.

1011
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, like everything is coming together like,

1012
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: that's so fucking epic. Guys, we've got to hear Kevin

1013
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: make this sound.

1014
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: We got to Kevin.

1015
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: And I think the other thing that is I feel like,

1016
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: because it's such a fixture of all all great.

1017
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: Podcasts, is you're gonna need a theme song.

1018
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: We're gonna need a theme song for this show, you know,

1019
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: or this I guess it's a show, you know, something.

1020
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: That really gets at all.

1021
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: Of these salient points so that the audience knows exactly

1022
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: what they're about to watch going forward.

1023
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: Right, this is why you get Jason.

1024
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: And I love that.

1025
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 3: Yes, And are you anything to write it?

1026
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.

1027
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm not the music person. I think though, somebody in

1028
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: this in this fandom, somebody certainly is gonna send this

1029
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: to you.

1030
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the swamp. I'm just reading his salient as good

1031
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's.

1032
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: As long as it's.

1033
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: It's I think it's it's just yeah, it's packed with

1034
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: the saliens.

1035
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: So whenever you want to make the sound, Kevin, it's

1036
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 5: a theme sound.

1037
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: So if we can get the theme sound, and.

1038
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: It's one of those things too when you hear it,

1039
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: you're like, I know I'm about to hear my favorite thing. Yeah,

1040
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: and also just what he says, Yes, it's yes, yes,

1041
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: you begin drooling for your podcast dinner.

1042
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 9: It's it's puff Love's dog and what he and what

1043
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 9: he says of course, like it's like this big line

1044
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 9: when he when he comes out of the swamp get yeah,

1045
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 9: oh my.

1046
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: Okay, sound of kind of slips out of the swamp

1047
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: very silently and pretty.

1048
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Quick, quiet and mellow too.

1049
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: Can we get just a little a little sound. He's like,

1050
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: he's very big, he's like at least seven one.

1051
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: And I think it's crave to do the accent thank you?

1052
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: Oh my?

1053
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: Is it too sensual? Like I'm getting a little can

1054
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 5: we do it with maybe?

1055
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Like is a director?

1056
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: This is a director? Oh my?

1057
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: That felt like you said, oh yeah, and I'm anticipating

1058
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: oh my what. So I think that's confusing everybody else,

1059
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 4: like I'm oh my ma. There's a little bit of

1060
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 4: Southern yeah flair, the

1061
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: Stop we have