WEBVTT - Andy Classen 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:07.000 Choke when the rents passed you in the carball Star, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.640 when the only sponsors like broken hard. We're hanging on 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.120 this janky stream. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.040 Two weird voices in the glow of a stream. If 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.680 the worm bo say to let it laugh. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.680 When welcome back. 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.560 It's a brand new episode. This has laughing me. The 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.200 podcast of Jeremy Odaman, I'm Your Home. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:35.839 Jeremy stares at the stats, hands shaken over takeout boxes. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:41.560 Johnny's already mapping hotels on a napkin with crazy crosses. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.559 Thank quin jobs, a kind of. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:45.680 Tell their losses. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:46.600 Catch the show. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.440 Boss just shrugs, Oh, it's funny, Johnny grants, y'all never 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.680 know Jay Oh when I'm not alone today and we 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:01.920 are recording in the beautiful WTL Where's the Line Studios 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:07.680 Today with Me is my very co host on WTL, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.720 where you can find anywhere that you download your favorite podcast. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:16.319 It is Nebraska's first, It is Nebraska's only sports betting 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.520 podcast Where's the Line. You can also find my guest 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.840 at News Channel Nebraska. You can also find him co 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:29.120 hosting the Common Folk podcast and so much more. This guy, 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.280 We're gonna get into it. He's multi dimensional. He is 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.720 all over the place. He is a media staple from 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.600 the state of Nebraska. To me, honestly, to me, he 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.440 is the face. He is the color man of Nebraska 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.720 high school sports and soon of Nebraska's sports betting. And 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:54.640 you can find obviously more from him at podcast Underscore WTL. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.840 This is my friend. It's Andy Klassen. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.680 I also host and I founded an outdoor show, Honting 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.520 and fishing show Honting and Fishing that airs on news 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.119 shown Nebraska Saturday and Sunday morning. It's called Chasing the Dream. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.720 There you go, fair chase, chasing the dream, you know, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:13.840 dream hunt whatever. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.639 Dream hunt? Okay, and that's you said every every weekend. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:18.800 Yep, Saturday and Sundays. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:19.440 Okay. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.680 Yeah, got a little couple of things going. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.799 On, busy sky. And that's when I when people go, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.480 who's Andy When? When? When I'm talking about where's the line, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.240 I'm like, he's to me, he is the play by 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.359 play voice of Nebraska high school sports. Like he is 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.760 the play by play voice. Would you say that is 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:39.239 a fair? 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.120 I think that's on track, it's on par People have 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.440 said things like that, and it's very you know, humbling, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.840 and it's nice, but I don't do the play by play. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:49.800 I'm just the color analyst. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:50.360 You're just color. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:51.520 Yeah, I'm just colored all right. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.600 Well, so either way, you are the voice of Nebraska 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:56.119 school sport. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:56.400 You know. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.679 I take that back. I had to do color one time. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.639 It was like in year one or two of doing 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.600 basketball and my play by play guy, Uh like lost 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.000 a tire on the interstate on the way from Lincoln 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.480 to Carney, and uh, with all the setups there, I 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.680 try to get there an hour early and everyone's like, oh, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.639 they're freaking out. Brandon's he's just stranded alongside I. I 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.200 eighty and they're like We're going live, and like, I 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.200 don't know what I'm doing, Like, just do it, Okay, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.359 let's go. So I have done. I have done some 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:29.040 play by play. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.440 Well, there you go. There you go. That's awesome common 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.480 Folk podcast that brought that up. And you guys you 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.800 had me on what a couple of years ago. Now 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.680 it seems like, yeah, awesome show you you bring on. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.720 Just like it's just like the title common Folk just 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.360 any everyday people. You just kind of dive into their life, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.640 really really good podcasts and you can find it common Folk. Uh, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:53.920 tell me about that like, what's some of your like 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.640 favorite guests, like the show How to Start? 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.360 So so that was all born out of that was 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:04.720 ben ever idea, and he just wanted to get He 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.240 was watching the news and thinking, you know, I think 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.760 the silent majority is not being represented and whether it's 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.400 loud over here saying do this, do this or do 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.040 that do that, and then over here nay, nay. He's 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.720 like nobody, the common you know, the common folk. No, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.080 there's no voice there. So he wanted to give the 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.520 common folk a voice. And yeah, we get just fantastic 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.200 guests from a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of business owners. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.440 And some of these businesses are you know, just the 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.040 millionaire next door you just never even knew, and just 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.400 you know, side businesses that you never would have guessed. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.200 So we had Michael Severe, you know, he's kind of 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:46.159 a known commodity, been on the radio forever. I currently 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:51.200 hosts the Husker Football Show on then ET or what's 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.920 that called now Nebraska Public Media. Yeah. Yeah, So we've 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.360 had We've had some really good guests, interesting guests, and 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.520 a lot of organization. You know, the fifty mile March 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.279 is kind of a big thing around here. For veterans, 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.440 trying to help veterans with mental health awareness and things 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.480 of that nature. So anybody and everybody as long as 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.320 you're a common folk, you're walking on the pod and 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.960 it really does open the door to just anybody in anything, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:17.440 you know. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.960 Yeah, that fifty mile March. It triggered in my head 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:26.799 back in my grocery days. One of my fellow store directors, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:31.800 he participates in the fifty mile mark ago. He he 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.680 would do the you know, the march obviously, and it 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.880 would end like in the parking lot of the High 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.800 V store, okay, and I always had to have like 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.840 two palettes of cold water, have it ready, so we 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.839 would drag out there because those guys, the guys and gallas, 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.280 they are sweating. Yeah, and man, we need to have 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:52.039 that water ready. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.159 Ben's wife, Morgan, you know, co host of common Folk, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.120 and I really fought for that. I'm like, we need 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.440 to get Morgan or some we need a one voice, 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.120 we need a female's presence and voice. And I'm so 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.080 glad that she agreed to do it, because well, Ben 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.680 and I will get go just go down a rabbit 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.240 hole and we'll be talking about gears and you know 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.080 sprockets or whatever, you know, some motorhead and then she was, well, 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.200 how does that affect the family? Right? 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:23.240 Yeah, yeah, okay, you know that's interesting because when when 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.320 I was on the show. Yeah, it's funny because the 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.720 three of us, uh, you know, Ben and and you 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.560 and I we would be getting in on something we 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.240 kind of like think very similar, and then she would 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.479 come out of the blue with something and really spin 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.039 the conversation on its hand, right, and. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.599 You need that and reel it in and also open 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.720 it back up to the other half of the audience. Yes, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.000 you know. So I just think it's a it worked 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.840 out to be such a great mix and and some 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.120 of the guests we've had on there, I've just been amazing, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.720 and we're we've kind of hit this, I don't know, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.640 knocking over dominoes or whatever. But now marketing types and 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.000 people are reaching out to us saying seeing if they're 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.320 client can be on common folks, So that's pretty cool 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.280 rather than us trying to knock down the door. Hey 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.920 come on, come on, be on the pod. But yeah, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:08.720 that's been going strong for over four years now. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.440 Wow. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.200 So yeah, it's a it's a it's a fun podcast. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:12.760 That's for sure. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.160 Well there you go, check it out Comment Folk podcast, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.120 big fan of fact. I'm sportingly you are here? You 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.800 are today? All right? Well let's get to how you 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.880 and I know each other? Where's the Line? W e 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.640 L And it wasn't you know today we co host it. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.560 But from the beginning, I mean, how let's go back? 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:34.200 How'd you find me? 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.400 Isn't that wild? How you know? You just you just 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.760 have to start doing, just start doing, and then things 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.440 will happen. Yeah, because if you don't do anything, nothing happens. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:42.280 Right. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:48.080 But no, So my brother Jared and I we started 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.800 Where's the Line Sports Betting Show and we launched that 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.000 the very first week that gambling was legalized in Nebraska 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.240 and we haven't missed a week since. So we've been 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.920 going for over four years now, just spinning like a top. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.800 And we're always looking for, you know, guests and people 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.120 to bring on, and we try to stay active on 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.080 social media. And I came across one of your articles 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.000 that you'd written for the Right Way Sports Network and 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.240 they're usually talking about the Cincinnati Bengals, and I thought, well, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.240 this is interesting. It's fun to throw shade it. The 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.280 AFC North and what's going on up there? You know, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.640 you know, we bounced around all the different teams and 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.560 they always had kind of predictions over what Joe Burrows 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.520 going to do. Yeah, you know, as you heard again, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.319 and then an article about the Huskers came up on 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.559 I'm like, what's okay, Well, then I have to read it, 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.599 you know. Of course, then I looked saw that you 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.840 were from Omaha. I'm like, this is crazy, this guy 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.760 that's talking sports betting about the Huskers from a syndicate 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.400 out of Cincinnati. So we you know, I reached out 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.440 and you replied and we got you on the show 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:50.480 shortly thereafter. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.560 Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I mean, yeah, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:59.800 you guys high energy, and it's different because, especially back then, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:05.480 there wasn't much for sports betting content out there, and 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.599 for you guys talk high energy. And then you entertained 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.680 at the same time, like you welcomed the shade, the jokes, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.040 the back and forth, the bands. Right, it wasn't really 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.000 as much about the picks as much as it was 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.839 about the discussion of the pick. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.360 Well, uh, anybody can make a pick, right, say, this 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.079 team's gonna win this, that team's gonna lose uh, and 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.520 I was kind of frustrated with sports talk, especially in 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.280 the local radio. I felt like you could tell that 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.760 the co host, whether it was the afternoon or morning show, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.199 whatever whoever was on, you could tell they're just trying 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:38.839 to fill the A block, trying to get through the 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.400 B block, whatever. So Jared and I made a bullet point. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.640 And his stage name is Jabron the Parlay Pounder, And 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.920 that's that's a nick that's his real nickname. That's like 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.120 what his boys call him. 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:49.719 You know. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.199 I got to tag along a couple of his parties, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.480 a bachelor party in Kansasity. Those guys are wild Gabron. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.240 That's that's legit what you're hearing. Yeah, that's the Parlay 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:59.240 Pounder getting after it. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.600 I love his Uh. He would wear different jerseys different 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.120 my god. It seemed like he had a jersey, uh 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.320 for every occasion, not only. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.680 A jersey, but a color scheme to it. The random 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.599 teams he has that Patrick Mahomes Texas Tech jersey, you know, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.160 and then a color coordinated hat and shorts. Say, oh yeah, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.560 he does it up. He's into he's into high fashion. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.679 But where I was going with that is we kind 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.800 of made a ball list or I can concocted a 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.719 show of how I wanted it to flow, how I 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.959 wanted it to hear and sound and be constructed. And 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.160 I wanted to pretty much be the anti sports show. So, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.400 like you're saying, high energy, a lot of jabs back 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.839 and forth, keeping the listener engaged. I didn't want dead air. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.679 I never wanted them to feel And I told this 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.280 to Jared and I think you before he went on, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.440 if it feels like this conversation is running dry, running out, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.520 we're cutting it. We'll just end it right there. And 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.640 I vividly remember the first time I had you on 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.400 and we were in a rhythm where I would try 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.480 and squeeze in five NFL games between Jared and I, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.800 and then when you throw another co host into the mix, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.439 well now I got to divide that up even more. So. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.440 It was just boom, boom, rapid fire through that first 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.520 twelve minute segment, and after we signed off, you go, whoa, whoa, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:18.600 saying I could use a. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.160 Cigarette for that. Yeah, it's a it's a lot. And 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.840 I and that's the thing anybody who's never done radio, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:30.880 you know, and back back back, shoot now over twenty 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.000 years ago when I when I was on radio. You 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.040 do a shift, and let you do a two hour shift, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.000 you do three hours whatever it is. People will be like, oh, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.319 well that's cake. I mean now you gotta go do 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.320 your other job or whatever. And it's like, I'll tell 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.839 you what, that two hour shift will take more out 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.120 of me, like than an eight hour shift stocking produce. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.439 Oh for sure, I'll tell you. The most drained I've 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:58.959 ever felt like physically mentally was It was in twenty twenty. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.520 COVID just started getting into it and everything was getting 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.000 shut down. Well at the time, our governor Pete Ricketts said, 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.280 we're doing our state basketball tournament. I don't care what 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.600 New York's doing. I don't care what I was doing. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:11.559 We're doing it. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.400 So they put up all these guidelines like only direct 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.559 family members were allowed into the arena and this and that, 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.760 and we had to wear masks and this and that. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:26.400 But throughout that process, our founder of the network said, hey, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.160 we'll tele advise all the games. Do it. Figure it out. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.040 So were I was doing six live games a day. Wow, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.480 and I'm just thinking this is I always put myself 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.240 in the viewers or the listeners shoes. I try to 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.600 and I'm thinking, if it's a grandparent, you know from 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.760 Virginia watching the game, they're gonna want me to be entertaining. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.240 They're gonna want me talking, you know, with high energy 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.480 and praise towards their grandson. So I tried to bring 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.120 that energy every game. And I'll tell you what, after 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.199 three days of continuous four and six games a day, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.319 I was beat, you know. And I could feel it 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.360 driving from Lincoln back to Omaha that night. You know, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.319 you just it's it's it does. It feels like you've 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.600 been working out in the field and doing manual labor, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.439 but really it's just all that mental you know, I 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.480 guess capacity that you have to burn trying to be 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.400 aware of that, be on the spot, know all the players' names, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.480 break down the play they're trying to run. It does 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:21.120 take a lot. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.880 That's how I felt trying to keep up with you 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.199 and draw that was I had to get back in 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:26.040 rhythm like that. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.000 It's good. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:28.959 This is a lot of fun, but man, I gotta like, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.679 I gotta go through some reps. Like so, let me 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.800 ask you about that twenty twenty experience, because there's less 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.640 people in the audience. Yeah, where you still courtside. Yes, okay, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.800 so without the audience noise because there's not much and 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.920 you're giving it. You're all like you normally, would do 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.880 you change in what you say how you say it, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.800 knowing the players certainly can hear you. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.760 No, okay, no, no, not at all. I try not to, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.400 you know, I just try to be legit and honest, 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.400 and what I see is what you're gonna hear. And 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.880 it's worked out for me. And back then, and that 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.640 was at the stage where it was just wash your 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.720 hands a lot, so the six foot rule wasn't in place. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.040 I'm thinking back. I'm getting kind of crossed up here. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.199 The following football season was the mask year, so the 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.040 mask weren't even a thing yet, so it was just 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:25.440 wash your hands twelve times a day, and social distancing 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.760 wasn't a thing yet either. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.360 Okay, all right, yeah that makes sense. Yeah, I just 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.400 I find it. I always find it fascinating because when 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.840 you're doing any type of media, you have to give honest, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.000 you know, assessments, and generally the players are in their 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.520 own world. But during that time it necessarily wasn't the case. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:46.960 So there were still some. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.720 Pretty good crowds. They had like a parents and an 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.800 and one and brother and sisters. So Elkhorn. At the 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.240 time they figured it out, they had a pretty good 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.440 sized crowd. I'm like, these are some big families from 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.360 there right out corn so uh. But yeah, there's still 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.880 some pretty good noise there at the Devanny the first 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.520 a couple of days and then Pinnacle Bank Arena for 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:10.480 the championships. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.480 What about, like Simon, like, have your broadcasted off location 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.480 where you're just watching it through a monitor. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.200 No, we've never done that, okay, but there was a 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.080 lot of that going on in twenty twenty and twenty 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.400 twenty one, right, you know, And I felt like you 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.920 could tell, you could tell within you know, first five minutes, 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.840 ten minutes of a broadcast, if they were there or not. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.200 Yeah, the energy isn't there. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:31.080 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.040 You certainly would feed off of everything going on around him. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.920 And I always felt it was important to bring up, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.560 like I always like to shine a light on the 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.200 pet band, what they're playing. If there's a drummer just 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.360 going wild with big hair over there, reference that and 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.200 then the cameras can go catch it. And you can't 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.720 do that if you're remote, you know, you can't you 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.920 can't give that live experience. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.320 What's your favorite sport to cale? Uh? 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.640 I really like football, and that's probably just because I 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.080 played it in college. Basketball is a lot of fun 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.600 because it's it's it's so taxing and it keeps you 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.920 on your toes. But I really love football and just 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.200 breaking it down, and it also gives you time in 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.240 between plays to break down what you just saw and 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.400 then set up the viewer for what you think they're 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:14.960 gonna see. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.480 Yeah, what what's the moment when you played football? What's 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.800 a moment that you think about like often? 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.680 Uh, okay, yeah, let's go all the way back to 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.720 high school. Were from a very small town and and 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.960 we you know, we have those rivalries like everybody does. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.440 And the town next to us. Uh, they were a 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.040 class above us and they beat us and everything all 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.000 the time. And that's how we grew up just knowing 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.760 that those big bad guys from Spencer Naper are gonna 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:43.120 beat us. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:43.840 Uh. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.720 Well, we always played with the chip on our shoulder, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.280 our class, my class, graduating class, especially our senior year. 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.520 We're in Spencer, we're hanging on, we're cleaning on to 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.280 like a four point lead late in the fourth quarter 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.160 they're driving. It's a third and long and I had 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.159 have been fourth long so long ago. But it was 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.119 a passing situation. They had to stop the clock and 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.960 I was the cornerback. It was a down and out. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.840 I played it perfectly, batted the ball out of bounce 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.639 with you know, writing the guy out of bounce, and 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.800 I was celebrating and I look at the official and 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.200 he's he's rolling his arms saying first down, Like what what? 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.720 The balls on the ground? Yeah, the balls on the ground. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.000 Like that was the only time I like lost my mind, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.000 like hollering at the official. And I wasn't yelling at him. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.320 I was just trying to get the point across that 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.080 noe like he I actually touched that ball and batted 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.600 it on the ground. You called it a catch, and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.600 but that's just it now. Now the ball is just 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.000 and you know, like four plays later, with something like 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.240 fifteen seconds left, they win the game on a pass 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:46.840 to the end zone. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:47.240 Oh my. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.760 So yeah, that's that stuff sticks with you. And then 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.160 I guess that's why you love in eleven ete sports, right. 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.200 Isn't it funny? It's it's a negative moment that you 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.320 think about. Yeah, like so often because I'm the same way. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:00.879 Uh. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:05.240 Freshman year high school, I was wide receiver and it 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.920 was called post post corner. Yeah, and uh it was 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.080 the ball is coming to me on the sideline and 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.720 I heard post and I ran post and cut in 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:21.560 and the ball goes sailing over my head. Immediately said 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.720 to the sideline as the quarterback was screaming, what are 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.440 you doing? Why is this guy on the field? And 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.840 I'm like, I'm I'm toast over. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.119 It is funny how that happens. I don't know, you like, 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.920 because you you live for those good moments and those 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.440 highs and there's so much fun. But it's yeah, it's 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.720 that it's that loss. It's that it's that heartbreak that 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.400 just really sticks out in your mind. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:46.680 You know. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.240 I wonder if it's uh, because because I do think 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.040 about that a lot. Why is it some of the 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.240 negative moments that stick with people. I think it's because 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.800 we work. Maybe a psychologist needs to tell me if 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.600 this right, we shrink, We're gonna ge shrink in here. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.359 But we work so hard for the wins. It's not 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.000 like we're working hard for the losses. So when we win, 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:07.840 hey we did it. This is what we're supposed to do. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.240 We're working towards this, yes, and then the losses catch 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.879 us by surprise sometimes because it's like, that's not how 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:14.679 it was supposed to come. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.440 Yeah, that stings. And also mine was kind of a 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.280 mixed bag there because I made the place. I read 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:21.680 the down and out. I knew it was coming. I 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.200 knew it was a passing situation. I knew that their 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.600 route tree basically had three routes on it, and I 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.320 was ready for it. And I and I was on 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.760 their primary receiver, tall guy, way taller than me. And 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.760 it's just it also sticks with you because it's like, Okay, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.639 I can't beat the system, can I? I'm stuck in 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.119 the matrix this it was like, and nobody from Spencer 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.160