1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcasts. So are you wondering 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: how we were able to go into Venezuela in the 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: middle of the night and take Nicholas Maduro out of 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: his bed, literally like from his bedroom with no casualties. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I have been wondering this so recently. I read this 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: story that is supposedly a first to hand account of 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: someone who is on the ground, and I wanted to 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: share it with you. And then I have to get 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: an expert opinion because I read this and I was like, 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: this is sci fi stuff, like this cannot be but 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it's so cool, and I kind of like, 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: hope it is true. So this guy, he claims that 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: what happened that night is that they're outside. These are guards. Okay, 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: they're outside, they see a bunch of drones. They see 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: these drones just coming into mass and then all of 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, everything goes dark, like all the power goes out. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Nothing works, none of their walkie talkies, none of their phones, 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: none of their communications devices work at all. Everything's just dead. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Then they hear helicopters overhead, so it's like dark all 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: you sees the night sky. You hear these helicopters. I mean, 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: this has to be pretty freaky, like what's going on. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: So then the guy says he sees men in the 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: against the Night sky dropping from the helicopters, but they're 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: not like any soldier he's ever seen. He was like 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: whatever gear they were in. He said, it was terrifying. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: These guys are dropping from the helicopters and then suddenly 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: this like sound wave hits them, and he said everyone 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: around him and including him, they just fall to the ground. 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: They have their noses bleeding, they start throwing up, they 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: can't function. He said it was the worst thing he 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: has ever experienced. And his report he said, look, I 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: never want to fight the United States. I don't know 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: what did this to us, but it was horrible. So 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: we go in, We take this murderous dictator from his bed, 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: no casualties, and I'm like, outside of this guy saying this, 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: how would we do it if this didn't actually exist? 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: So I was like, I got to talk to David 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Ruther because I know he's going to know this. He's 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: a former Navy cel Cia contractor. He's the host of 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: The David Rutherford Show here on the Clay and Buck 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: podcast network. So David, thank you for coming back to 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: the podcast. What happened in Veneula. 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're ninjas, man, it was like flying 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: ninjas came out of the sky. I I this is 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: I And I've said this repeatedly over the last few weeks. 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: This is this was the coolest op I've ever seen. 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, hands down, anybody. And I you know, I 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: was a part of the g WAT. I worked for 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: the teams, I worked for Blackwater. I worked for the 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: agency for ten years from you know, the first part 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: of the war all the way through the Binlad raid 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: when I was in Pakistan before and after that, and 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: and I had a ton of buddies at the Tier 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: one units, which are by far the best military units 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: on the planet. There's nobody that can compete with with 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: dev Group and Delta, they're just the. 57 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: Elite of the elite. 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: And when I heard about this first, it was like, 59 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: oh my god. The thing that really caught me was 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: the drone swarm that we used. And we've all seen 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: that in the videos with Ukraine, So we know that 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: technology is real, and we know that they're doing some 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: really unique things, not only with surveillance but explosives, and 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: why does that do though? 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Why the d I mean for someone who knows nothing 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: what is happening in that swarm. 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: So to go back in terms of technology advancements, we 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: have been working on direct energy weapons of some kind. 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: For you can argue eighty years plus right post World 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: War Two, we've been trying to get moved forward with things, 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: mostly to counteract nuclear threats. And in the seventies they 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: we created something called an EMP, a electromagnetic pulse, and 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: the idea behind that is a device can push out 74 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: a pulse that essentially jams any let's say the easiest 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: way bluetooth technology, so bluetooth technology or any electronic feeds 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: that go in the ionosphere, right, and that's communications, that's 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: any type of imagery or whatever it might be, alarm systems, 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: and so the idea is you come over with these 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: drone swarms and they can release a type of an 80 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: EMP that downs all all of their defensive postures, right, 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: all their defensive capabilities, whether it's it's alarm systems, surveillance systems, 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: infrared systems, holographic systems, you name it. This electromagnetic pulse 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: shuts all of that down. Now again, you know, I 84 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: haven't been able to confirm any of that yet. I 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: haven't talked to any guys that are still active, my 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: other guys that are still kind of trying to figure 87 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: it out themselves, so I don't want to say anything 88 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: for sure. But the other side of that is very 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: realistically that we also had people internal, We had people 90 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: that were participating. We have had a relationship, you know, 91 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: our CIA's had a relationship very substantially within seeking assets 92 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: and sources, within the Venezuelan government, within the Venezuelan cartels, 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: within the Venezuelan financial systems, I mean, obviously. So there's 94 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: also a high degree of possibility that we had somebody 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: within Maduro's government that could help maybe flip a switch 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: or turn some stuff off. You know, maybe somebody turned 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: off the anti aircraft devices or the radar systems to 98 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: help us. So that's a possibility to but most likely 99 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: this drone system came in, and it could have also 100 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: been some type of a Wax if you remember the 101 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: a Wax planes that have the big dome on top 102 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: and their communication and they would fly those over a 103 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: battle space to make sure are all communications and signal, 104 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, it was it could suck signal hits and 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: all types of transmission. 106 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: So it could be something like. 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: That, a new a new aerial device that's outfitted with 108 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: some type of pulse system that shuts all their electronic 109 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: surveillance down. So that's the first piece of this and 110 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: just that alone changes the battlefield in ways nobody can fathom, 111 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: because the most essential part of any takedown, strike or 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: hit is going to be your ability to communicate, right 113 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: that's the only way you can coordinate, especially with no 114 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: lights on. Maybe you don't you're not equipped with infrared, 115 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: you know, monoculars or night vision or anything, and so 116 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's your radio systems that and if those 117 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: don't work, then then you're in trouble. The other aspect 118 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: that you brought up, which you know, fast roping, and 119 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 2: I've I've done my fair share fast roping on tops 120 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: of buildings. 121 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. 122 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: When you've got, you know, one hundred and thirty pounds 123 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: of kid on and you're fast roping ninety feet, you know, 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: and you don't even put your feet on the rope, 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: You just kind of slide down and hit and go. 126 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: That in and of itself is as dangerous as you 127 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: can get. But these guys, like I said, they trained 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: three hundred plus days out of the year. I mean, 129 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: this is what they do. They are the best of 130 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: the best. And the other aspect. The thing that really 131 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: caught my eye in that security guards report was two things. 132 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: One the speed with which they were able to enter 133 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: and move through the building. Now, the thing I don't 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: know if you've seen recently, but Palmer Lucky at Andrel 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: they designed these new modern helmets, and the helmets have 136 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: these heads up displays that can cycle through infra red 137 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: or the heat seeking I forget what it's called. 138 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and you just are seeing this like like 139 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: my head's up display on my car that tells me 140 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: how fast I'm going. They're seeing this in front of 141 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: their eyes. 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're also seeing where every guy is in 143 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: the in their their movement, their element moving through. They're 144 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: seeing an overhead of response on the ground. What he 145 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: did was basically recreated the heads up display that you 146 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: have in Call of Duty, which the video game. 147 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: And that is crazy. So this really is like what 148 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: we've seen in the movies is now truly happening. 149 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: One d percent. 150 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: So I'm good friends with Sean Ryan and he recently 151 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: went to a big defense tech thing and he calls 152 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: me afterwards and he's like, hey, man, like. 153 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: We are obsolete. That's like I was like, what, I'm 154 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: not obsolete? What are you talking about? I can still shoot. 155 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: He's like, no, you have no idea. There's they're wearing exoskeletons. 156 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: They're wearing these new helmets. 157 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: So that's what they said. They didn't look human, So 158 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: what does that mean? They're where in an exoskeleton? 159 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: So they've had a multi billion dollar system in development, 160 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: the Ironman Suit, as it's infamously called, in development since 161 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: the early two thousands. And there's a kind of a 162 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: famous seal that transition became a woman, then transitioned back 163 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: because he got caught up in the cult or whatever. 164 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: And his name's Chris and he's one of the smartest 165 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: seals I've ever I used to go to him when 166 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: I was at Team one and he was on the 167 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: original Iron Man Suit development program for so Common Tampa. 168 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: And at that time, and this was back to early 169 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: two thousands, the budget was like three hundred million dollars 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: to develop this thing. And that was so if you 171 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: figure they've been in development of this and we've seen 172 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: a lot of exoskeleton iterations be presented online and especially 173 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: in the last few weeks. The question is is in 174 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: this particular situation, is it going to be the best 175 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: for them to be able to uilize. I mean, they 176 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: were up against the sizable force and my thing is 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: is definitely had the modern helmets for sure, but dude 178 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: that I'm not so sure about the exoskeleton because you know, 179 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: again and I'm not one hundred percent, I don't know, 180 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: but what the think The one that really got me 181 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: was the potentiality of the directed energy weapon that creates 182 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: this orientation. 183 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: That's a whole nother level. 184 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: And we've been developing those since the first part of 185 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: the g WATT for crowd control. 186 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: And they actually have these. 187 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Big sound emitting UH directed uh devices that they would 188 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: put on the top of ham v's and if a 189 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: crowd got crazy, they'd drive these things out and they'd 190 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: shoot these and it's it's, you know, it's piercing in 191 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: your brain. I mean it's like, it's it's. 192 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: A horrible feeling. Then they have uh. 193 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: In fact, Peter Doucey UH, there's a clip of him 194 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: that's been going through right with the heat weapon. So 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: now think about it, if you could combine those two 196 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: technologies of the heat weapon and the dis disorienting weapon 197 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: into one device and shrink that down maybe into a 198 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: wearable on some guy's chest, right, because what we we 199 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: do go into battle wearing like hack saws to breach 200 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: to do breaching. 201 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: Or or. 202 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: Welding tools to burn through a hinge or to get 203 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: into a door. And so guys are used to carrying 204 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: hundreds of pounds of gears. So if they got this 205 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: thing even remotely, they it would be insane. Or you 206 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: pull the helicopter that it's got on the nose or 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: whatever it is. Or the drone comes down on every 208 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: and just shoots these on every h and every floor. 209 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: Right, It's not like a window is going to stop 210 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: it less. 211 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Is this something that it has to like it has 212 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: to be sitting there and it admits this, or is 213 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: it a one time thing? How does that happen? And 214 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: then how how long are you feeling this way? 215 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: So I've heard they can admit it for a good 216 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: amount of time to where they completely incapacitate you. The 217 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: strength of it obviously can be paralytic up to including 218 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: death and Yeah, for sure, absolutely. And now all of 219 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: a sudden, you get this. So we used to have 220 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: tough for many, many forever. We would take what's called 221 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: the flashbang and it's like a little explosive grenade looking device. 222 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: You pull it, you throw it in the hallway or 223 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: in the door, and it pops off and it creates 224 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: a disorient And and I'll tell you what. For when 225 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: I was a new guy in my first platoon, we 226 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: had flashbang appreciation Day where they put all the new 227 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: guys in a room and they threw like twenty of 228 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: those things in at us, and it rocks your world. 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: It feels like you're getting punched, you know, in the guts, 230 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: in the groin, in the face. It feels like an 231 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: actual punch. And if you get enough of them, it's 232 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: it's completely dis oriented. Well, now they have these devices 233 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: which not only you know, incapacitate you, but I mean 234 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: bleeding from your nose and your ears, which is all 235 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: a component of that can happen if you know, when 236 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: you get in like if you're electrocuted or you're whatever 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: it might be that disorients your system. And what they 238 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: were saying that it was disorienting the solid organs, So 239 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: solid organs that don't have some type of maybe it's 240 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: not hollow because there's fluid, but a way where when 241 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: the thing penetrates through it disperses. But solid organs don't 242 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: do that. So a liver, right kidneys, Uh, they take 243 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: that energy pulse and it's like, you know, you just 244 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: took a freight train in your organs. 245 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: So that could have caused it. 246 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: It could have caused disruption in the esophageal airways and 247 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: the estationian tubes, right, it could have all all these 248 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: things that that's probably where the bleeding came from. It 249 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: perforated the sinus cavities like pop those pop, the Eustachian 250 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: tubes and that. I've had a few perforated ear drums 251 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: and diving and it's it's just it's the most painful thing. 252 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: So now you've got a weapon designed to do that. 253 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: And if a lot of people are like that's ridiculous, 254 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: all you got to do is Catherine Hendridge did some 255 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: beautiful reporting on remember the Havana syndrome story, Peter, Yes, 256 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: that's they're saying, that's the same thing that they would 257 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: constantly have these this directed energy weapon either pulsating or 258 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: admitting these things to where it made people really really sick. 259 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if there was a cancer that 260 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: admitted from, but I knew these people were. They became 261 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: critically ill from the exposure to whatever this thing was. 262 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: So you combine all of those things with the most 263 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: elite fighter on the planet, and you know, I don't 264 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: think those Cuban security guards still a chance that No. 265 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: I that and then we see that video of them 266 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: bringing home those tiny boxes. Was that real? I? 267 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's I think everything has to be for 268 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: show obviously in those those areas, in particular for Cuba 269 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: not to lose face. 270 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: That was one of the things I asked. 271 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: I had the former chief of station from Venezuela on 272 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: last week and I asked them who were these guys? 273 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: And you know what, what's the implication of this on 274 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,119 Speaker 2: a broader spectrum in the region. And because of Shaves, 275 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: his relationship with with Castro, because they were kind of 276 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: he would become his puppet, his puppeteer, and that's what 277 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: he really developed. His internal ability to overthrow the Venezuelan 278 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: government was from Cuban intelligence and so that relationship was 279 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: substantial up to including to where now Maduro his inner 280 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: circle were Cuban you know, intelligence operatives, and so. 281 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: That what does that mean for us being so close 282 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: to Cuba. 283 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: So in a grander context, I believe this, this is 284 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: the most cataclysmic shift of global power structure that we've 285 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: seen probably since Man, since Lula won in Brazil. Going 286 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: the other way, I think that was a tremendous negative impact. 287 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: We saw it immediately from their president of the Supreme 288 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: Court becoming the fact the ruler shutting out all dissidents 289 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: right because there was what four million people in the 290 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: streets saying the elections were rigged. And then the deeper thing, 291 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: another thing I've been chasing lately is all I'm not 292 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: sure if you saw. Lara Logan did this great piece 293 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: with a guy named Gary Bernston. Gary was a career 294 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: agency guy. He actually was one of the team leaders 295 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: for that led the Agency and Delta and Dev Group 296 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: into Afghanistan and the Jawbreaker teams they were called. He's 297 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: won every award at the CIA, but one Key's guy 298 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: it well. He and another guy named Martin Rodill, who 299 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: was a Venezuelan American who is running human intelligence sources 300 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: for the DEA for years against cartel. After twenty twenty, 301 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: they got together and started a real investigation into figuring 302 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: out like who controls the source code of the electronic 303 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: voting machines, And what they found out was that it 304 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: was three. It was Chavez hired these three American Venezuelan 305 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: guys who were from boker Tone Florida. Had they designed 306 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: the software that went in because what they did, the 307 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: first voting machines in Venezuela were from eight an ATM machine, 308 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: and these guys came in and they wrote the source 309 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: code so the votes could be flipped in real time, 310 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: and that's how Chavez beat the call to get him 311 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: out of office in five So fast forward. Now, all 312 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you have these guys who, through human sources, 313 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: people deep inside Maduro's government came out and said that 314 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: Maduro took this original company, which was Smartmatic, right or 315 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: I think it was Sequoia, then Smartmatic, and then Dominion 316 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: came in. Then there's some others, but Smartmatic, they say. 317 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: These guys allegedly they say that Smartmattic has flipped seventy 318 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: two elections around the world and that Venezuela has sold 319 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: that business to all these major people around the world. 320 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: China made a six hundred million dollar investment in IT. 321 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: Russia has made a multi million dollar investment. The Open 322 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: Society found George Soros Foundation, the guy this lord from England, 323 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: he ran smart Mattic for years and then for him 324 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: doing that, he was appointed to the president or the 325 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: CEO of Open Society Foundation nationwid globally in London in 326 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, right after twenty twenty elections. So the tie 327 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: for this is one you have an organization, a criminal 328 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: organization with Maduro that's deeply connected to one of the 329 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: most prolific cartels in the world. And when people think 330 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 2: cartels what, they automatically reset themselves on drug production and distribution. 331 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: But cartels move guns, they. 332 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: Move human beings. Like human beings. 333 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: We saw over the Biden administration with the flood of 334 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: illegals coming in, human trafficking went through the roof, because 335 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: why you make more money on a human slave than 336 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: you do on a single brick or kilo of co 337 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: caine or fentanyl or crack or whatever you're selling. Because 338 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: a human you can continuously sell for years and years 339 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: and years. 340 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 341 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. The people in the United States 342 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: do not hear that human trafficking is moving slaves. That 343 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: is critical for people to understand that these people are 344 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: used for the rest of their They're never free. That's 345 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: the crazy part about what we're seeing with these riots 346 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: and these protests is these people are owned. They're not free. 347 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: You think that because Ice is taking them, They've been kidnapped, 348 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: all their life was taken a long time ago. 349 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 350 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: I think there many of them are obviously victims of 351 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: the system, right, and whether they're being used as a mule, 352 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: whether they're used as some type of slave, or they're 353 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: trying to get out of wherever they're trying to get 354 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 2: out of because they've heard that. You know, it's particular 355 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. They're given away free money. I mean the 356 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: Somali fraud at eight billion dollars. And what's interesting to 357 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: me is all of this is interconnected in some capacity, right. 358 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: And so just to wrap up, Moduro, you had a 359 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: cartel that was selling drugs, people whatever, distributing illegal sales 360 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: of rare minerals, illegal sales of oil to countries that 361 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: have been sanctioned and then you have this really unbelievable 362 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: idea that their source code is in pretty much ninety 363 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: per eighty percent of all the electronic voting machines in 364 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: the world, thereby putting whoever you want in Lula right, 365 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: that was a sketchy election for sure. Now the question then, 366 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: as you back up, is who are they partnering with 367 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: and how is it interconnected? And I think at the 368 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: center of a lot of this, obviously is the former 369 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: USAID people as well as the Open Society Foundation. 370 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: I think what you said partnership with China and Russia 371 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: is very scary when you look at these not only 372 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: the minerals and the oil, but their connection to our 373 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: being in our hemisphere, their connection to our country is 374 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: very concerning. It's something that the Democrats won't even acknowledge. 375 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: They acknowledged it before Donald Trump was in office. I 376 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: should say that before we had President Trump. They were like, yeah, 377 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Mandurero's a problem. This is sketchy. We can't let this happen. 378 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: The minute President Trump is in office, they're willing to 379 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: let China and Russia take all of South America. 380 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: Why well, all right, So Gary Bernstein talks about this 381 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: and this guy's one of the most brilliant. I mean, 382 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: he was a legend when I was at in the agency, 383 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: and I think he's one of the greatest case officer, 384 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 2: chief of Stations, paramilitary case office that our country's ever produced. 385 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: Excuse me. 386 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: And he says that after the GWATT started, all of 387 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: our switched to CTC counter terrorism, in particular the Middle East, 388 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: because the agency was running right the war in Afghanistan 389 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: that was an agency run war, and they were running initially, 390 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: they were running Iraq until they completely bungled it by 391 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: six and then that's when Stanley McCrystal, Petraeus all came 392 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: in with this our new updated coin right our counterinsurgency model, 393 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: which then we were able to regain back and they 394 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: took the gloves off Delta and dev Group and they 395 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: just started getting rid of problems in a rapid way. 396 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: And the way the way he describes. 397 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: It is when Obama came in, he. 398 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: Because of his. 399 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: Relationships and what he wanted to do in South America, 400 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: he basically reduced operations almost down to nothing in Central 401 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: and South America America. And I think and when you 402 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: take a step out and you look at the idea 403 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: of immigration and where it began and where the idea 404 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: of the flood was going to take place. You know, 405 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: some people call it the Great Reset, some people call 406 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: it the Great Replacement theory. Whatever you want to describe, 407 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: there's truths within each one of those concepts. And what 408 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: Gary said is that eight through twenty twelve, the op 409 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: tempo and assets available to support our essential Munroe doctrine 410 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: or whatever it was or wasn't down in central South 411 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: America almost went away to nothing. And at that point, 412 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: that's when China, Russia, Iran, everybody flooded into South America 413 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: because what the whole thing is about, gaining access to 414 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: rare earth minerals, gaining access to petroleum, gaining access one 415 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: and then also an ability to be able to run guns, 416 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: run people up into the hemisphere. And then when you 417 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: look at you know, twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, 418 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: what we had, I mean, low estimates, it's fifteen million people. 419 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: Come in high estimates, people might say it's thirty million. 420 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: So how many people, how many agents for China, how 421 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: many agents for Venezuela, how many gang members? How I 422 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: mean Venezuela emptied their prisons. 423 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: So you're talking resources, weapons and proximity. That's right, that 424 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: is very dangerous for us. 425 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's an invasion. 426 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I think you know what we 427 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: were talking about before got on you're I mean, when 428 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: you look at kind of the mob and what they're doing, 429 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: they're essentially, you know, using Saul Alinsky's playbook for revolution, 430 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: and that's what we're seeing in the churches or on 431 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: the streets of Minnesota. They're literally fighting to get back 432 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: against eight billion in fraud. Minnesotas are fighting back against 433 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 2: eight million a billion in fraud for the Somali community. 434 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: And that's just Somali. I mean, you look at Maine. 435 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: It's happening in Maine, It's happened all over and then 436 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: now you go down and it's all all these asylum 437 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: seeking countries that are receiving you know, eighty seventy percent 438 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: of the population are on complete and comprehensive government welfare programs, 439 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: which is what you're electorate to keep you in office. 440 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, but I mean, I just am shocked by the 441 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: average American and we are talking truly the average American, 442 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: and I believe that's who Renee Good was, the average American, 443 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: and they are putting their lives at risk. Obviously she 444 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: we know what happened. She was shot because of her 445 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: actions trying to block ICE, and you brought it up 446 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: before we got on this episode. We're talking about the 447 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: ICE agent who's like, we can you please stop hunking. 448 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: We are trying to get a child's ex predator off 449 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: the streets. We're trying to protect you, and they don't 450 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: care what how what? It kind of brainwashing has to 451 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: take place for mothers and average Americans to protect the 452 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: worst of the worst. 453 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: I really believe it's indicative of where were their mothers 454 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago? Where were the mothers ten years ago? 455 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: So let's just call ten years. I don't know if 456 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: you're seeing all the ten years ago in twenty and 457 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: twentywenty sixteen, which makes me feel absolutely ancient right now, right, 458 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: And but where were they back then? So if you've 459 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: got a mother that was is thirty two right now, 460 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: has you know is hardcore progressive left? She didn't learn 461 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: that as a kid. Where she learned that. She learned 462 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: that when she went to a university. She learned that 463 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: when she's you know, whatever, you know, government she studied, 464 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: or world policy or or you know, whatever they studied. 465 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's proven that what ninety five percent of 466 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: most universities are left leaning in terms of their their staff. 467 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: In some universities, you know, you look at University of Michigan, 468 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: you look at Wiscon, University of Wisconsin, you look at 469 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: some of the I mean, these are hardcore feeder systems 470 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: for radicalization. And if you don't believe me, all you 471 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: got to go back and look at the counterculture revolution 472 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: of late nineteen sixties. I mean Abby Hoffman and that 473 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: whole crew, the Weather Underground that all started at the 474 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: University of Michigan, right, and my parents were there during 475 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: this time. And that doesn't just die and go away 476 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: because somebody leaves office. They dig in and they want 477 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: to radicalause, you know. And there's the famous old Russian 478 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: KGB defectorresna Uri bresna Off, who has all those videos 479 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: online that you can follow, who says, oh, they ask 480 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: how long how many generations does it take to demoralize 481 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: a culture or society? And he's like two, and you 482 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: guys are already three into it. 483 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yes, that's what this is exactly. My fear is 484 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: that we are already there and those of us who 485 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: thought we were living the American dream were not paying 486 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: attention to what was happening behind the scenes. And now 487 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: I look at these people storming the church, and it's 488 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: not just I mean, we are making fun of Don Lemon, 489 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: and we're obviously calling for prosecution of Don Lemon, but 490 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: Don Lemon should know. I mean, at a certain point 491 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: there were and he was a journalist at the time 492 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: when journalists were actually learning that there are limitations are 493 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: there are laws, like you have to follow Shucker, you 494 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: have to follow the laws. And I cannot believe this 495 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: is that they believe that they're going to go into 496 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: a church and battle the First Amendment with the First Amendment. 497 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: First Amendment right, not as strong as mine? What is 498 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: that argument? 499 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: I think it's the component of of what revolutionaries do. Right. 500 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what argument you put forth. The whole 501 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: thing is to gain attention and then to demoralize. Right, 502 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: and then de Sae you made a great point. 503 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: There's no one to say you're wrong. 504 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's going to prosecute any of those those protesters 505 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: for illegally entering the church because there's probably a sign 506 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: on the front of the church that says all people welcome. 507 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Right, and so that's an open invitation. 508 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: There's your there's your counter argument, and then when you 509 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: go in, you know, it depends upon how long they 510 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: stayed or where they asked to leave and how whatever. 511 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: You know. It's the other thing is just the sheer 512 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: shock of being the pastor. I mean when you looked 513 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: at him with Don Lemon and his mic in his face, 514 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: he was like, I can't Like he was in shock. 515 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: He's like, how is this high happening? 516 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: Right now? Is we've gone to this level? Even the parishioners. 517 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you what if I was in church 518 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: and I carry a gun when I go to church, right, Like, 519 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: if that's the case and I felt my family was threatened, 520 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: like things would go sideways. 521 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: And that's what's going to happen. And that's what they want. 522 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: They're going to go into a church in the wrong church, 523 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: and they're going to get attacked by the parishioners and 524 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: then it's going to be this big story and it's 525 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: going to be the greater demonization of Christians, the day 526 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: demonization of white people, the greater demonization of religion and 527 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: faith and all this stuff. And that's what they want so. 528 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: That and that Actually, I think most of us who 529 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: are at church on Sundays, I watched that video and 530 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: I watched I watched every angle that I could because 531 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I was watching the parishioners and I'm thinking, here you 532 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: are with your kids. You feel like this is the 533 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: safest place you can be. And obviously we know that 534 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: there have been other attacks on churches, but I'm watching 535 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: how they are filing out quick of their pews and 536 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: they're finding every exit. And I think me and probably 537 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: half of the other people that saw that video across 538 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: this country went, if this happens at our church, where's 539 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: the nearest exit? How do I get my kids out 540 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: of there? How do I make sure my children are safe? 541 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: Because I don't trust for a second that you're right. 542 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't go sideways. I don't know what those people 543 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: are carrying carrying. I don't know what they who they 544 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: want to hurt. I don't know how they feel about Christians, 545 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: because there are enough people out there that have made 546 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: it clear that they hate Christians that I don't know 547 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: what they're going to do. Look at what happened to Charlie. 548 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we are now at a new level of 549 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: attack for any conservative and certainly a Christian. 550 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: I that was part of my horrible predictions for twenty 551 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: six is the violence is a really fascinating thing, you know, 552 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: And there's a I always recommend people if you want 553 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: to really get into the construct an ideology behind killing, 554 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: there's a great book out there by a guy named 555 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: Dave Grossman. It's called On Killing, and it's a preferred 556 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: reading for us in the soft community, a lot of 557 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 2: police officers. There's one for police officers specifically called on 558 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: Combat and the idea of violence, right, violence is tempered 559 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 2: by what the backstop of whether or not you're going 560 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: to be violent is whether or not you feel like, 561 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: first and foremost your life is in danger. And then 562 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily trigger violence. Back that mostly triggers the 563 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: flight of fight or flight. But as soon as you 564 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: integrate people's families into that, then that it ceases to 565 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: be what the psychological restraint of you know, hey, manage 566 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: like the mama bear response. That's right, it's the mama bear, 567 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: pop bear. And when you trigger that, because the worst 568 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: thing you could ever do is disturb a violent man 569 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: who doesn't want to be violent anymore. And that's what's happening, 570 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people out there that are 571 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: are just done with it. I watched the video this morning. 572 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: Somebody was driving a suburban. It was alwaysn't even like 573 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: a modern suburban that had stuff, and some crazy jumped 574 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: in front of this. The guy pulled over, got out 575 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: and beat the snot out of this poor person that 576 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: was thinking they were doing something. He's like and just 577 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 2: waylaying him on the street. And that's what's going to continue. 578 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: How it's it's and that's again that's what they want. 579 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: But in my opinion is what the line of violence? 580 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: How do you establish it? And then how do you 581 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: justify holding the line? And I think that's where the 582 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: American population, at least I think the the right, if 583 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: you will, that's getting tired. Even center. I think, you 584 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: know what, we've seen the independent numbers grow substantially in the. 585 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: Last couple of months. 586 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: But I just think people are sick of radical the 587 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 2: radicalization of protesting. Allow what Don Lemon was trying to 588 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: spew out on in front of us, that poor pastor, like, oh, 589 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: this is our first. 590 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: Amendment right right, our ability to protest, you. 591 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: Know, And I'll just say that they are protecting really 592 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: bad people. And I and I don't know why. I 593 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know how they got this impression that they're protecting 594 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: the good guys, but they're not. They're protecting the bad guys. 595 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: And I look back at the election, and I look 596 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: back at Donald Trump, was had two attempted assassinations against him, 597 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: and that we know of right, and the right didn't 598 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: rise up and start attacking people and going into churches 599 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: or burning down buildings or you know, we didn't charge 600 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: radical college campuses and start screaming at kids. And then 601 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: we lost Charlie and one of the most horrific ways possible, 602 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: in front of all of our young people. We had 603 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: kids there and they were traumatized by what happened, and 604 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: we celebrated God. And I look at that and I think, 605 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: how can I possibly every single time one of these 606 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: jerks on the mainstream media goes but January sixth, I 607 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: want to go. You know how much we've been through 608 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: and we didn't ever go after you. We never went 609 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: after you stop. You killed one of our strongest voices, 610 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: and we didn't go after you stop. 611 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: I just think I actually think it's becoming a problem 612 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 2: for the Republican Party right now. I think part of 613 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: the division that you're seeing is not just isolated within 614 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: a Nick Fuentez or you know, Tucker or whatever like that. 615 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: I think what it is is you have despondent young 616 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: men that feel like, hey, you're our leaders, we're under attack. 617 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: Why aren't you prosecuting? Why aren't you why don't we 618 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: see at a minimum, at a minimum, can I please 619 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: see John Brennan have to go under oath in a 620 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: live at a live uh you know, uh subcommittee of 621 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: a deposition and have them answer to Russia Gate, like 622 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: just that alone, and then what spills out of that. 623 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: But like that's just the pinnacle. So and it's not 624 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: that the Bureau isn't doing incredible work. When you look 625 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: at you know, bo Gino's posting all their numbers and 626 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 2: Gashes posting all their numbers, and the numbers of them 627 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: taking down violent criminals is staggering. It's a staggering pace, 628 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: and you look at crime and mortality rates are just 629 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 2: falling off the cliff. So you know, they're they're bringing 630 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 2: a sense of security back to the country, which is essential. 631 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: But there's also a component, why aren't these people under indictment. 632 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 2: Why isn't Tim Waltz under indictment already. Why haven't they 633 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: arrested him in copts? Why has Mark Kelly not been 634 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: censured by the Senate for uh in you know, telling uh, 635 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, military personnel to not follow orders. 636 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 637 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. Do you remember the show Designated Survivor? 638 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for Severn. 639 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Michigan governor did go against and they 640 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: they did arrest him and they he was like, they 641 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: arrested him for something with dearborn. I can't remember what 642 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: it was, but you know that was obviously the Democrat 643 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: perspective of that show. You could tell, but they didn't hesitate. 644 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean to your point, there there are times when 645 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: you have to say, you how can you put people 646 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: in such danger? They're calling for people to break the law. 647 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: And then you know, you have the video of Walls. 648 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: I think Jacob Fry has said this too, but Walls 649 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: very clearly stated that he wants you to go out 650 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: and document because when we're in power, we will prosecute 651 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: the law enforcement in the world. 652 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you saw the statistic from 653 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 2: everybody from Trump's first administration that was indicted and taken 654 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: you know, to court and that. 655 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: See, but people don't realize that that is what has 656 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: to be. That people go, oh, my gosh, he's so 657 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: he's so radical. I'm like, hey, you, what are you 658 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: talking about? Do you have any idea what people went through? 659 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: And you're just you are just talking about the people 660 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: that you can publicly point to and say that's right, 661 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: they went through hell. What about everybody else who was 662 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: blacklisted from getting jobs, they couldn't work, they were humiliated professionally. 663 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: Anybody who worked in that administration went through hell because 664 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: of these jerks, and they are painting us that way. 665 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: Don't We're not loud enough about what has happened. I 666 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: don't know how to I don't know how to make 667 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: us louder. 668 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: My personal opinion is you still have just a entrenched 669 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 2: unit party group that's in DC, particular within the Senate. 670 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 2: I mean, some of the votes that I've seen in 671 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: the last two weeks against some of these massive. 672 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: Things that could really. 673 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: Move the needle in our and our benefit, they're just 674 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: not taking place. The Save Act, the Save Act alone, 675 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 2: like forget everything else, Forget all of the other stuff 676 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: going on, the protests, anti ice whatever, forget it all, 677 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: and just look at the fact that's still in How 678 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: many states can you walk in without an ID and vote? Right? 679 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: Why is this controversial? 680 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: Why? 681 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the state of Michigan. We just 682 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: I know, I'm keeping you, longh, I got as long 683 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: as you want. If you look at the state of Michigan. 684 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: We just had one of our county clerks come out 685 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: and say he was he just happened to notice that 686 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: he had a lot of people saying they couldn't serve 687 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: in jury duty because they were non citizens. And then 688 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: he compares the jury duty list against the qualified voter 689 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: file and lo and behold, some of those people have 690 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: been voting in quite a few elections. This is a plan, 691 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: oh one hundred percent. 692 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 3: And that's what. That's what. 693 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: And we keep talking about because of what happens, people 694 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: become overwhelmed by the tsunami of information that's coming at 695 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: him to the point where I don't want to look 696 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: at the news because it's too it hurts too much. 697 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: We're losing our country. I don't want to see it. 698 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: I'm just going to put my head down and go, well, 699 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 2: the you know, the and this is a dramatic assessment, 700 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: but in my you know, the last time a comprehensive, 701 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, monumental shift in in what the world power 702 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: hegemonies where Christendom was involved at a high level. You know, 703 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: it started in six point thirty four after Mohammad died, 704 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: and that by seven ninety, you know, they had penetrated 705 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: all the way through the Iberian Peninsula, all of classical antiquity, 706 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: Christianity in Northern Africa, all through the Middle East, all 707 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: through constant all gone like eradicated forever. And I think 708 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 2: the I, you know, the idea to drive us towards 709 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: this you know, globalist one world government, and I know 710 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: everybody's like conspiracy. 711 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 3: Just look at. 712 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: Canada. 713 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 2: They're telling you world order, they're telling you they're literally 714 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: Kyle Stop's latest video. That's it's crazy to me that 715 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: people you're just like, hey, listen, you got to fight 716 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: for what you want. The whole pretense of America is 717 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 2: that you had to fight for what you want. Now 718 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 2: here's the thing that scares me a little bit is 719 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: it takes about three to five percent of a population 720 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 2: to generate a revolution, right so we're let's call it 721 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty million people. Now, we over the 722 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: last twenty plus years, we've let in what forty fifty 723 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: million people. 724 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: So and they the other side is talking about this 725 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: in case you don't know, they're like, okay, we're about 726 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: two percent. 727 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: Now. 728 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: We are just at the edge of being able to 729 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: overturn what's happening in the United States, this experiment that 730 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 1: we love the beauty of our freedom, everything we believe 731 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: in our constitution. They believe they are so close to 732 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of all that. And we are sitting back 733 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: here looking at the golf course and going should I 734 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: play today or should I go swimming? Like it's like 735 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: get in the game. 736 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think what I think are are kind of 737 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: the political establishment that has learned because what I mean 738 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: you were in this system. I mean you played at 739 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: the highest level going for governor of Michigan against one 740 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: of the most in trenched kind of you know, little 741 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: misfit puppets that they have, And there's this integrated system 742 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: for both sides that if you don't play the game, 743 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 2: you don't get to where you go. And even if 744 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: you do play the game and play it well in 745 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 2: some places it doesn't matter because they figured out how 746 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: to comprehensively cheat the system. So for me, it all 747 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 2: stems back to voting blocks and the ability to overwhelm 748 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: the current existing system. And then the other problem is, 749 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: like good people they don't want to run for office 750 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 2: because I mean, I mean, we've talked about it offline before, 751 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: how absolutely debilitating is to you, your family, your friends, 752 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: your associates, and like people are like, I don't want 753 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 2: to get into that. 754 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: Why would I ever risk my family? 755 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 2: And what my response to that is now they're coming 756 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: into your churches so right and at homes. 757 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: I actually had this conversation this morning and it's like, well, 758 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: how do I protect myself if I run? Not me, 759 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: someone else was telling me, asking me, if I run, 760 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: how do I protect myself from what they will do? 761 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: Because it doesn't matter if you if you just run, 762 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter even if you lose. They continue to 763 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: try to get you. They try to take your money, 764 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: they try to shut down your bank accounts. What people 765 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: don't know the behind the scenes of how the Democrats go, oh, 766 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: that person might have a future, we must destroy them. 767 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: It happens. I am not lying. It happens. So yeah, normal, 768 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: the average person doesn't want to say, well, I might 769 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: go to prison, I might not have a college fund 770 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: for my children, I might not be able to take 771 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: care of them. No, who wants to do that, you know. 772 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: But yes, when they go into your church, things change. 773 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: And that's so I think we've crossed the line. I 774 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: think this is going to expedite violence coming from our side. 775 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this, man and tutor, you know, 776 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: I I am as you know. You got on with 777 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 2: me and like, wow, you're in a good mood, and 778 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: I was like yeah, I mean I'm trying to maintain 779 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 2: you know, I am a motivational speaker on occasion and 780 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 2: so trying to find the positive of it. But in 781 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 2: this situation, when you cross that line where you go 782 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 2: into that place where people are you know, getting in 783 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 2: touch with their you know, when you look at what 784 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: happened in the Crusades, and there's already a revival going 785 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: on in Christianity and faith and in a collective, smaller group, 786 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: community group of protection of its citizens, like that's building, 787 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: They're malicious building. There's training groups building. You're going to 788 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: go into a church one of these days and you're 789 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 2: gonna have ten g WAT guys in there, all caring, 790 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 2: you know, and they're gonna have an emergency plan. Everybody 791 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: runs out, then they lock the doors and it's going 792 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 2: to be like how you can't leave and it's going 793 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: to be ugly, right, And that's that's what's happening. 794 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: But again, like I say, that's what they want. 795 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: And so my whole thing is, you know, fa fo, 796 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: you keep building that and you're gonna get back something 797 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: that you're not going. 798 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: To be happy with. 799 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 800 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's been interesting to watch and I always love 801 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 1: chatting with you about this stuff because you have such 802 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,959 Speaker 1: a you have such a good history and knowledge base. 803 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: David Rutherford, thank you so much for coming on the 804 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: podcast today. 805 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: Tutor's my honor. I just love your show. I love 806 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 2: what you do. God bless you and all your listeners. 807 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and thank you all for listening. 808 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: As always, you can subscribe at Tutor dixonpodcast dot com, 809 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasting. 810 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: You can always watch it on Rumble or YouTube at 811 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon, but make sure you join us and have 812 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: a blessed day.