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Speaker 1: Bootleg cap Podcast live from Saint Petersburg, Florida at Wild
Speaker 1: ninety four to one. I'm like, man, when I come
Speaker 1: to Tampa, I got to tap in with my guy
Speaker 1: ten ninety Jacobs here. How you doing, bro, Bro?
Speaker 2: I'm good. How you doing?
Speaker 1: Yo? It's crazy like seeing you without a hat like
Speaker 1: every like the last few interviews I've seen, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you like without the tattoos, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you look like you can sell mortgages, bro.
Speaker 2: So I have people saying that shit the other day.
Speaker 2: They're like, you really white boy in it right now?
Speaker 1: Super super white boy.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's convenient, like just throwing a hat on.
Speaker 2: You don't have to get your hair cut actually the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like a lot of people thinking on
Speaker 2: fucking ball too, So sometimes I gotta switch it up in.
Speaker 1: You know yo. So you know I kind of came
Speaker 1: up in the Tampa area earlier on in my career. Uh,
Speaker 1: you moved out here when you were thirteen.
Speaker 2: I moved to Florida when I was thirteen. I was
Speaker 2: visiting Tampa on weekends, and then I think I was
Speaker 2: like fourteen fifteen when I actually moved to Tampa.
Speaker 1: So like you, essentially you were when you were getting
Speaker 1: into trouble early on, it was here.
Speaker 2: It was all down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like did you guys, did you ever go
Speaker 1: to like clubs guy back in the day?
Speaker 2: Nah, I just heard about it, So you never actually, like,
Speaker 2: would you like.
Speaker 1: Fuck around any board at all?
Speaker 2: I was like too young falling that ship, Okay, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I never did like teen
Speaker 2: clubs and ship like you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just wasn't in none of that, So I never really
Speaker 2: got to experience e boys nightlife or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's what I mean. Obviously, the strip clubs here, I
Speaker 1: feel like, are wildly overrated, but it is a strip
Speaker 1: club city.
Speaker 2: You think they're overrated, they are. Ye, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean when you go to Miami and you go
Speaker 1: to Booby Trapper, you go, I've never been a Booby
Speaker 1: Trap or you go to Nah I went to Uh,
Speaker 1: I think Cheetahs.
Speaker 2: It's like twenty four hours. Yeah, I went to that ship.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that they have the most strip
Speaker 1: clubs per capita in Tampa. Yah, which doesn't mean sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like quality over quantity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it also means like damn that every girl
Speaker 2: you meet out here has stripped before.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so like the uh, the Tampa lineage is
Speaker 1: essentially a girl will start out at wing House or Hooters,
Speaker 1: it's respectable, then hit the bottle ser and then you know,
Speaker 1: and then and then, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you might go to Dollhouse. You might be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what the fuck's going on? How you doing? And then
Speaker 1: back in my day out here it was Reality Kings
Speaker 1: right after, you know, or Brassers or whatever. But you know,
Speaker 1: now it's like straight to only fans. Yeah it is
Speaker 1: Yankee now. But chats all had a lot of fun
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It's a good place, yo. So how's everything been for you?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Obviously you've had a crazy last like four years or so,
Speaker 1: just kind of turning up in terms of this this
Speaker 1: content space, Like, are you you're the kind of creator
Speaker 1: who we're talking about this a little bit where you
Speaker 1: got you got some enemies out there just the nature
Speaker 1: of what you do exposing people's paperwork? Is it like,
Speaker 1: you know, I always talk with Adam about this where
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I don't know how Adam does what
Speaker 1: he does, because that motherfucker always got to be looking
Speaker 1: over his shoulder for you. Is it like, are you like,
Speaker 1: are you like super worried about ever having to like,
Speaker 1: you know, deal with that kind of shit in person.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like.
Speaker 2: I'm already of very like hyper aware type of person,
Speaker 2: but that comes from like prison and everything else, you know,
Speaker 2: So basically like the career, like it just heightened everything.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel like I have enemies because a
Speaker 2: lot of this shit is just internet shit. There hasn't
Speaker 2: been a shot fired, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: feel like it would be more likely for me to
Speaker 2: run into a situation where somebody's trying to rob me
Speaker 2: for my chain or something, then especially out here, then
Speaker 2: over like some rap beef shit, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Because it's like, it's just not that I've ran into
Speaker 2: a rap that fucking roll aloud that I dropped paperwork on.
Speaker 2: Nothing happened.
Speaker 1: Who was it.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put his name out there so we
Speaker 2: don't crank up a situation, right. I also think that
Speaker 2: the person thought I was their size, and when they
Speaker 2: saw me in real life, they're like, oh, Jay kind
Speaker 2: of big. Yeah, it just was nothing, So you know,
Speaker 2: but it's just situations like that, like if it was
Speaker 2: really that, you would have pressed it. Yeah, and on
Speaker 2: me the president, I'm go going to drop your paperwork
Speaker 2: you're supposed to press that line.
Speaker 1: It's not yet, that's it. You're doing your like you're yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, bro, if I see you, I'm not gonna come
Speaker 2: at you. So that's why I don't feel like with
Speaker 2: enemies because of what enemies is like, it's going both ways. Well,
Speaker 2: but sees who first, right, you know? But yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean when I'm out, I'm very aware of everybody. And
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, when you become knowing people are looking
Speaker 2: at you, you want to know why they're looking this
Speaker 2: and that, and you know, so a lot of things changed,
Speaker 2: but so.
Speaker 1: You end up. I know, you did a lot of
Speaker 1: juvie time. You spent about thirty six months in prison altogether.
Speaker 2: It was less than that because I got six months
Speaker 2: time served in the county and I think like two
Speaker 2: months gain time.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm a West Coast guy. I'm from Arizona, so
Speaker 1: the prison politics are a lot different than Cali. But
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like still, it's it's Arian nation,
Speaker 1: It's Mexican mafia, you know, La, It's the north siders,
Speaker 1: the South siders, and you know the others, and obviously
Speaker 1: all the blacks roll together. How are like the politics
Speaker 1: in Florida in terms of county. If you if you
Speaker 1: got beef with a set and you guys are in
Speaker 1: county together, it's up. But once you guys hit prison,
Speaker 1: you guys are rolling together because it's a race thing.
Speaker 1: What what are that the dynamics like out here in
Speaker 1: terms of you're also a white blood?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever played grandv Ado? Of course, it's like that.
Speaker 2: There's no rules. You do whatever the.
Speaker 1: Fuck you want out here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's very like there's no politics. Interesting, there's
Speaker 2: there's none. So the Aryan Brotherhood and all that, it's
Speaker 2: not sanctioned in the state of Florida. So they have
Speaker 2: a homegrown gang called Unforgiven. That's the whites. They got swastickers,
Speaker 2: cracker boats, all that shit. Then you got bloods, crabs,
Speaker 2: you got MS thirteen, you got Serenos, you got Latin Kings,
Speaker 2: you got every fucking thing basically.
Speaker 1: And all those people are just on their own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like, nah, you got clicks, like
Speaker 2: people all click up, like in the county jail in Tampa.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a bloodhouse. Yeah, it's gonna be almost
Speaker 2: all bloods. You're gonna have Latin Kings in there the
Speaker 2: Kings fuck with the Bloods and then you know, you
Speaker 2: might have a couple of cribs, a couple of gds
Speaker 2: or whatever. But the county out here wasn't really rocking
Speaker 2: like that. It's more so like hood beef, like, oh
Speaker 2: he from the West, he from the North, he's from
Speaker 2: the East, whatever, like just hood shit. And when you
Speaker 2: go to prison, it depends on where you land at.
Speaker 2: So like we got Zo's in Florida.
Speaker 1: Of course, so.
Speaker 2: Zmf Is on Mafia Family. They're a major gang in
Speaker 2: the Florida prison system. There's those, the Bloods and the
Speaker 2: Kings really run shit. Like those are the three big
Speaker 2: factors anywhere you land at. So it's like in Cali
Speaker 2: it might be a race riot or something. Over here,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like the Bloods versus Zo's.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, definitely a lot of race
Speaker 1: riots even like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: There's not really any race riots here. I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 2: and people don't like it when I say this, but
Speaker 2: it's like white people aren't really a factor in Florida
Speaker 2: State prison m M. So it's like if you're white,
Speaker 2: like obviously you're more in tune with the hip hop
Speaker 2: shit right, Yeah, you're not gonna get no love in
Speaker 2: that bitch, Like you really gotta be with the shit
Speaker 2: or you just you know, people are gonna just abuse
Speaker 2: you because it's like you already kind of don't fit in,
Speaker 2: so you really gotta make yourself fit. And the white
Speaker 2: guys that go to Florida State Prison that have gang affiliations,
Speaker 2: some of them, you know, we'll see it through. Some
Speaker 2: of them will get xed out, some of them will
Speaker 2: get into the race killed. Nah. Like I knew a
Speaker 2: kid named t K who I was really cool with
Speaker 2: in prison, and he was part of the Unforgiven. He
Speaker 2: had a fucking swastick on the back of his head.
Speaker 2: He had fucking Nazi bolts in between his eyes. And
Speaker 2: the thing is like everybody'll associate with each other. It's
Speaker 2: not like we can't sit together. We can't. We don't
Speaker 2: have those politicis. So like, yeah, like you were a
Speaker 2: little Nazi, but you listen to Boosy, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So it's different. TK he got his throat
Speaker 2: cut because when he came to prison, he from clear Water.
Speaker 2: When he came to prison, he was a GD the GDS,
Speaker 2: so he went from GD to well, you gotta think
Speaker 2: you forget for black dude.
Speaker 1: He chose up. Essentially, if a black.
Speaker 2: Dude cuts your throat with a box cutter, you're not
Speaker 2: gonna want to be around them. So he went to
Speaker 2: where people fucked with him and.
Speaker 1: Just went all in on the tattoos and.
Speaker 2: He went all out because it's like, all right, now
Speaker 2: you're committed, you know, And he had. He had a
Speaker 2: lot of respecting that he was going knife for knife
Speaker 2: with people and fucking. He wasn't a big dude, but
Speaker 2: he had a lot of.
Speaker 1: Heart, damn. And it's almost like if you're the unforgiven cats,
Speaker 1: you're probably like, well, we kind of know this ain't
Speaker 1: really you, so you got to show us that you're
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's also the manipulation is like, oh
Speaker 2: they don't they don't like you. They're not gonna fully
Speaker 2: embrace you. You should come to us, stick with your race.
Speaker 2: Like bro TK was trying to get me to go
Speaker 2: to that show. I'm ain't going to that shit. Shit
Speaker 2: is I shouldn't even sound right, you know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Get did he get out? Uh?
Speaker 2: He got out of prison. I try to get him
Speaker 2: to be a YouTube fucking whatever, have a prison channel.
Speaker 2: He started doing it, things went left. He did ten
Speaker 2: years bro and he wh when he was like fifteen,
Speaker 2: he was struggling mentally, ended up in Oklahoma, beat his
Speaker 2: sister half to death. He got like twenty something years now.
Speaker 1: Crazy. Yeah, yeah, I think what people don't understand is
Speaker 1: when you're institutionalized.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, both my cousins at a cousin who's half Mexican,
Speaker 1: who ran the Mexican mafia in the Arizona prisons. Nobody
Speaker 1: knew he was half white, straightcholo. He was beefing with
Speaker 1: my other cousin who ran the Arian Nation. Both of
Speaker 1: them are dead. Well, no, my cousin, Sheldon's in prison
Speaker 1: right now. He's doing like twenty five years for a murder.
Speaker 1: But uh, my cousin Aaron ended up passing away in prison.
Speaker 1: But these motherfuckers was worn with each other. They grew
Speaker 1: up together, right, they like got in trouble together, they
Speaker 1: got arrested together, and then nobody knew that they were cousins,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, but the race warshit was, man,
Speaker 1: Some of these stories these guys would tell me, Like
Speaker 1: my cousin Aaron. He said, they would like everybody with
Speaker 1: shit and pissing a bucket, they would boil that shit
Speaker 1: and throw it on somebody from like a different race
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm like, bro, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: The most racial shit you'll see in Florida State Prisoner
Speaker 2: is just white boys just get victimized. So it's like
Speaker 2: punks boys, like the gay shit that goes on, Like
Speaker 2: it's mostly white boys that are getting turned out.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like you can't go to you just can't
Speaker 1: go and just be like a normal white dudent and
Speaker 1: just be like I'm just fine.
Speaker 2: You gotta put metal in somebody, bro, you gotta really
Speaker 2: do something to somebody. And that's the thing is like
Speaker 2: when I went in there, I was trying to be
Speaker 2: as turned up as possible. But within my first year,
Speaker 2: I got cut, I got poked up, I got hit
Speaker 2: with a brick, I got all type of shit, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like you're gonna get hit it too. You're
Speaker 2: not just gonna go in there and be flawless, but
Speaker 2: for sure you gotta do some shit.
Speaker 1: Anything that was serious enough to wethell you might lose
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Nah, none of it nah, Because when I got cut.
Speaker 2: That's the most blood I've ever scene. But it was
Speaker 2: like not that serious. That's how I got this little.
Speaker 1: Scotter of the crazy.
Speaker 2: When I got cut, it went from here down the hill.
Speaker 1: You you know, obviously it's not the easiest thing. It's
Speaker 1: a lot easier said than done to be able to
Speaker 1: put yourself away from that lifestyle and pivot, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and at least kind of have because
Speaker 1: you know what you do and what you started to
Speaker 1: do with YouTube. It's not something that just anybody can
Speaker 1: do who's a convict. It takes It takes a lot,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it takes a lot
Speaker 1: of dedication. I'm sure your first video didn't go crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, like.
Speaker 2: It's I ain't gonna lie my first video went crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh. He's like, well, actually, bro, the way.
Speaker 2: YouTube started for me was not like genuine I guess right.
Speaker 2: So I've seen an interview on this channel called Lockdown
Speaker 2: twenty three and one, okay, and Josh, he goes by
Speaker 2: the nickname Death, He was like, right, crazy, But I
Speaker 2: think it's more so like to dude with like the
Speaker 2: call of duty shit, Like there is this game attag
Speaker 2: or whatever. He's a cool dude, family man, and he
Speaker 2: was one of like the original prison channels and he
Speaker 2: would interview people. So I watched an interview with him,
Speaker 2: interview this white blood from Virginia, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: this whole story sounds like bullshit, like how the fuck
Speaker 2: are you a white blood? But you didn't get to
Speaker 2: know gangster shit in prison, like you ain't get stabbed,
Speaker 2: you ain't stabbed nothing, you ain't you know, Like, how
Speaker 2: the fuck did you just have it that easy? And
Speaker 2: then he said he wasn't blood anymore. But he's like
Speaker 2: speaking in code with the host. So that's like me,
Speaker 2: like saying certain shit that you don't even know what
Speaker 2: it is, just to try to sound cool on you know.
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, this shit sounds fake as fuck.
Speaker 2: So I reached out the death on Facebook, like yo,
Speaker 2: interview me. I wrote a little paragraph. Everybody was liking it.
Speaker 2: He brought me off for an interview. That interview went crazy,
Speaker 2: and he was the one that was like, yo, you
Speaker 2: should start a channel. I started the channel. The first
Speaker 2: deo went.
Speaker 1: Up, what was your first video?
Speaker 2: I forget what it was on, maybe like Florida Florida
Speaker 2: toa to test the hot because a lot of people
Speaker 2: never heard of that shit. I just sat in front
Speaker 2: of a shitty camera in an empty room in an
Speaker 2: apartment and talked for like thirty forty minutes about memories. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just talking about like yeah.
Speaker 1: For people who don't know what that is, it's essentially
Speaker 1: like checking your temperature, making sure like if you're.
Speaker 2: A test to hot. Right, it's really something that comes
Speaker 2: from the Florida JIT camps. So in California they got,
Speaker 2: what's what's the fucking It's not adult prison to you. Shit, yeah, juvi,
Speaker 2: not juvie. It's above that.
Speaker 1: So it's like in between.
Speaker 2: I forget what it's called in Cali. But see here
Speaker 2: you got juvie. A lot of people got my life
Speaker 2: story fucked up. They think I just did straight juvie time.
Speaker 2: That's not what a JIT camp is. Jig campus state prison.
Speaker 2: Well what happens is if it's your first time in
Speaker 2: state prison from fourteen to twenty four years old, you're
Speaker 2: going to jitcamp.
Speaker 1: That's what you could be twenty four locked up with
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just gonna be in a different dorm, right,
Speaker 2: But when we go to state prison. We're on the
Speaker 2: bus with all of the adults. We get separated at reception.
Speaker 2: So I went to the Central Florida Reception Center that's
Speaker 2: in Orlando. I get put an ah storm that's held
Speaker 2: on them. This is jitcamp. This is where everybody's getting slashed.
Speaker 2: You got kids getting fucked with broomsticks. You got people
Speaker 2: getting lit on fire, poked the fuck up like two
Speaker 2: hundred times. So that's where the t oage comes in. Right,
Speaker 2: So you come in, We're gonna look at your tag,
Speaker 2: you know, to find out where the fuck you from,
Speaker 2: because the tag on your DC number is gonna say
Speaker 2: the city or mine. It was a C, so if
Speaker 2: you're from Tampa, you normally get a T. I gotta
Speaker 2: see my DC number zero seven sixty five to two.
Speaker 2: So if I got to see, they're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 2: where the fuck you from? You're from Central Florida. Where
Speaker 2: at I'm from Tampa. Oh, Tampa's over there, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Or it's like, oh, we don't fuck
Speaker 2: with Tampa. And now you're in a whole situation. But
Speaker 2: it's your wah. If it's your people doing it from
Speaker 2: your city, they're gonna act like for one, they're not
Speaker 2: from your city, or if like, if you a crip,
Speaker 2: all the crips are gonna act like their bloods to
Speaker 2: see how you react, like you surrounded by straight enemies.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like to test your character, and
Speaker 1: it's certain.
Speaker 2: Test, but it's a pain test. You're gonna get held
Speaker 2: down and putting the fucking full Nelson then stabbed or
Speaker 2: a piece of a fence like a hundred times, and
Speaker 2: they're gonna see what the fuck you do? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, You had people had like lighters and
Speaker 2: ship They hold motherfuckers down, put their pants down, light,
Speaker 2: they digging nuts on fire. Yeah, they're trying to extort you.
Speaker 1: When you say extore it like what so so.
Speaker 2: They'll ask you or you're gonna break it off. If
Speaker 2: you say yeah, nothing else is gonna happen to you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get treated. No one's gonna bother you, no
Speaker 2: one's gonna fuck with you. But when that money comes
Speaker 2: from your family, it's getting took.
Speaker 1: So essentially you can stop whatever is happening to you, but.
Speaker 2: You could break it off as soon as you walk
Speaker 2: in the dorm.
Speaker 1: But when you stop. That means that you're all right
Speaker 1: now I gotta pay people. Yeah, you're like property damn.
Speaker 1: So the longer you deal with the tah, the more
Speaker 1: like like you get on the other side of it. Right.
Speaker 1: I would thing, if someone set your dick on fire,
Speaker 1: what are we even talking about? You? Nah? Bro?
Speaker 2: Like like like, I mean that happened to one kid
Speaker 2: that I heard of. I never actually met the kid.
Speaker 2: It was in a different dorm, but you know, his
Speaker 2: dick hole shut so he had to get sent to
Speaker 2: a different prison.
Speaker 1: Was he a fucking tramers?
Speaker 2: Nah, it's just the kid that got fucked over. But
Speaker 2: now for them, they get fucked with a broomstick. Broomstick, mopstick,
Speaker 2: They get held down and you know, they get their
Speaker 2: intestines blown out, and shit, you're getting fourteen inches of
Speaker 2: wood putting your ass. There's a lot of shit like
Speaker 2: that going on. So a lot of people never heard
Speaker 2: of this ship when I got on YouTube until I
Speaker 2: told him to look up something CI laying cast the sei.
Speaker 2: Those are the spots I would before that. It was
Speaker 2: Indian River, Brevard. These were places where you know, like
Speaker 2: you got lawn mowers, they would take the blades off
Speaker 2: and make machetes. So you got like seventeen year olds
Speaker 2: hitting each other with machetes and then they're getting airlifted
Speaker 2: because they're barey, you know, they're barely alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even imagine like what the rehabilitation process
Speaker 1: even as like possible in those situations.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is like in the Gladiators in
Speaker 2: the JIT camps, everyone wants to go to adult prison
Speaker 2: because yeah, you can get killed over there, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of gays shit over there in the adult prisons.
Speaker 2: But every day it's going down a JIT camp and
Speaker 2: I think it was like what every Wednesday or new
Speaker 2: bus comes when they take them off the bus. Before
Speaker 2: you get off the bus, the CEOs are beating the
Speaker 2: shit out of you. Everybody gets slapped, so they'll tell
Speaker 2: you stick your head under your nuts. You gotta put
Speaker 2: your head as fire down as you can on a bus.
Speaker 2: They come through, smack everybody in the back of the head, Lancaster.
Speaker 2: They take you in the room. Everybody got a strip naked.
Speaker 2: They go around slap the fuck out of everybody just
Speaker 2: to get your attention. They'll tell you, look, we run
Speaker 2: this shit now. If y'all want to go PC, get
Speaker 2: in this line. If you want to go on the compound,
Speaker 2: get in this line. You go.
Speaker 1: PC is obviously protective custody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go right to confinement. So if you decide
Speaker 2: you're gonna stay, you go through like this little two
Speaker 2: weeks in the reception dorm, then you go to the
Speaker 2: dorm that you're going to. Out of the twenty people
Speaker 2: that make it in the dorms, maybe like five stay
Speaker 2: on the compound. The rest of them are getting fucked up.
Speaker 2: That's just how it is. Like if you blood and
Speaker 2: they put you in a zo house, them boy's gonna
Speaker 2: cut you, stab you, whatever, like within the first hour
Speaker 2: of you being in there. Jesus.
Speaker 1: It seems like a very broken way of trying to
Speaker 1: rehabilitate people.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as rehabilitation prison. There is none.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like, fuck man, especially if it's
Speaker 1: like the younger generation, and it's like, damn, you fuck
Speaker 1: around and you end up. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are kids, make stupid decisions, but they ain't really
Speaker 1: about that life. But they end up sitting there and
Speaker 1: now they gotta they're forced to be about that life. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I met this one dumb motherfucker appalachi Ci.
Speaker 2: This is when I went to an adult prison because
Speaker 2: my WIO got snatched. So if you get involved in
Speaker 2: like a big enough riot, or you get a dr
Speaker 2: for an assault on an inmate, I had assault on
Speaker 2: an inmate, possessional weapon, whatever, they sent you to adult prison.
Speaker 2: But because I had negative disciplinary reports, they sent me
Speaker 2: to one of the most active adult prisons in Florida,
Speaker 2: which is appalachi Ci. It's way up in the Panhandle.
Speaker 2: I met this kid there. You know, he's wilding out
Speaker 2: in prison, robbing people this and that. He had like
Speaker 2: two months to go home. He goes home, comes back,
Speaker 2: ends up coming back with like thirty five years because
Speaker 2: the shit he was doing in there, he did it
Speaker 2: to one person on the street. And the thing is
Speaker 2: in prison, if I cut you and I get caught
Speaker 2: cutting you, sixty days in confinement for cutting you, sixty
Speaker 2: days in confinement for the weapon, I do one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty days nothing, find nothing.
Speaker 1: I come back out here because you're already in there.
Speaker 2: I cut you on the street.
Speaker 1: That's cravated as salt with a deadly weapon.
Speaker 2: What ten fifteen? Yeah, So these kids are coming in
Speaker 2: here fried. You know, they did some light shit. They
Speaker 2: might have done a burglary, they might have broken too
Speaker 2: a cow. Whatever, they come in here, they turned the
Speaker 2: fuck up they and now they're normalized to that level
Speaker 2: of violence. Yeah, and then you get out and you
Speaker 2: go smack something, You.
Speaker 1: Get someone said something, and you go out to the club,
Speaker 1: you go to the house party, someone talks to you
Speaker 1: the wrong.
Speaker 2: Way, and now it's not raises, it's guns. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So now you just pop the shit
Speaker 2: out of somebody. Now you gotta go do forever, and
Speaker 2: you're fucking twenty. I got released from prison at twenty
Speaker 2: years old. The first thing I did was I got
Speaker 2: the fuck out of Florida. I went back up to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: I got released from prison July first, twenty fifteen. In
Speaker 2: July twenty and sixteen, I caught a case in Boston.
Speaker 2: They said I was chasing somebody with a gun trying
Speaker 2: to rob them.
Speaker 1: Was that when the setting up on the dating apps thing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which dating apps was? This was this.
Speaker 2: Tender and plenty of fish.
Speaker 1: POF is where you get the sick fucks.
Speaker 2: POF is where this kid got fucked over. Yeah, my bat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but there was multiple robberies I was under investigation for,
Speaker 2: so part of the plea deal was they weren't gonna
Speaker 2: keep you know, did.
Speaker 1: You have to do time for that? I got probation,
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I got over because apparently the kid got
Speaker 2: robbed and then gave two different Basically I lived right
Speaker 2: where having that, So he's like, I don't want to nah.
Speaker 2: So this is what happened is I ran up on
Speaker 2: him and put the ship on him, and he pulled
Speaker 2: out fucking mace. So it's like, all right, I'm not gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm trying to take shit. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to kill you. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: pick mace.
Speaker 2: He's shaking and ship, so I'm like, I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: the gun up and then just come back out here
Speaker 2: and beat the fun out of him. Because I've already
Speaker 2: been sprayed in prison and shit, so it's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not worried about the spray. So I go back in
Speaker 2: the crib, I changed my clothes, I come out with
Speaker 2: a whole new fit. He already called the police, so
Speaker 2: when I come back out, he's still there because I'm
Speaker 2: still texting him on the app acting like I'm the
Speaker 2: bitch three of Popment's up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like when he he.
Speaker 1: He was like waiting out there like, bitch, yes, some
Speaker 1: bit which you were cat fishing.
Speaker 2: I had pictures of a bitch I know in Florida.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's how it played out. He already called
Speaker 2: the police, so when I came back over the second time,
Speaker 2: they jumped out on me.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: But now if I had caught that case here, you'd
Speaker 2: be fucked. Yeah, because of the pr LA, the Prison
Speaker 2: Release Reoffenders Act, So any child you get, they double
Speaker 2: it and make it mandatory. I'm robbery is a PBO
Speaker 2: punishable by life. I would have had a double life
Speaker 2: sentence mandatory.
Speaker 1: Because you already had your.
Speaker 2: Because I just got released within three years.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's it? So let me ask you,
Speaker 1: because obviously Florida is like you know, the Polk County
Speaker 1: Sheriff all, this is going viral. That motherfucker's hilarious. Yeah, Judd, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that feels so funny. But it feels like I guess
Speaker 1: Florida is like one extreme of like the judiciary system
Speaker 1: in terms of like being in LA and like how
Speaker 1: liberal everything is, Like obviously you can't have a gun
Speaker 1: in LA. But I feel like, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: lot it's a lot more easier to get away with
Speaker 1: shit and crime wise, and in more liberal cities. I
Speaker 1: feel like Florida is like kind of like the other extreme.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it it does deter people from
Speaker 1: getting out and reoffending, Like not really.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you like live down here long enough,
Speaker 2: like you're gonna I don't know if they still haven't,
Speaker 2: but I know, like when I was growing up, you
Speaker 2: would see the ten twenty life billboards. It's like, pull
Speaker 2: a gun during the commission of a felony, that's ten.
Speaker 2: Shoot the gun, it's twenty. If you shoot someone, it's life.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know, you hit that shit,
Speaker 2: But it doesn't really stop people from doing shit, right,
Speaker 2: It still happens. So it's just and it also depends
Speaker 2: on where you're at, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: if you're in an active ass place, you want to
Speaker 2: protect yourself. But the one thing about Florida though, that
Speaker 2: CALLI doesn't have is you can stand your ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, which is like obviously you know
Speaker 1: good and a bad thing, depending on I feel like,
Speaker 1: I feel like living in La long enough, I feel
Speaker 1: like I wish we had that shit because it's like
Speaker 1: everyone's getting robbed in La.
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, if you completely different, you go to road
Speaker 2: and you shoot someone in the fucking face because they
Speaker 2: try to take your watch and you don't even get
Speaker 2: put in handcuffs.
Speaker 1: Out there, you're gonna get charged. You're getting charged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going away for that. So in Florida, if
Speaker 2: you literally walked up to me and said take that
Speaker 2: chain off, I'm shot you in the no, not even
Speaker 2: threatening you. If I shot you in the fucking face,
Speaker 2: I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. I'm a felon. I might
Speaker 2: go down for the gun, but I'm not going down
Speaker 2: for killing you, right you try to take my chain.
Speaker 2: So with Florida, like it has its pros and cons.
Speaker 2: You talk about the TOH thing a little bit more.
Speaker 2: What when you I saw an interview where you're talking
Speaker 2: about how you when you got in you were like
Speaker 2: I want it now, like get it out the way.
Speaker 2: Like essentially there were some casts like no, no, you're.
Speaker 1: Good, we know you. You're like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: They told me in the county jail. Like, yo, if
Speaker 2: they're telling you you're good, you're not good. How bad
Speaker 2: was your Toh? Mine wasn't bad because it was done
Speaker 2: by my own people. So they're not going to hold
Speaker 2: you down and stab you. If it's your own people,
Speaker 2: then you're not gonna get hit with a broomstick. Of
Speaker 2: it's your own people, that's gonna be like enemies or
Speaker 2: randoms that get did like that. So your own gang,
Speaker 2: you're gonna fight, you know, like you might have to
Speaker 2: line people up whatever whatever. Honestly, in reception, all I
Speaker 2: had to do was fight my bunkie. So the cleanup
Speaker 2: crew or whatever, the only ones that were allowed to
Speaker 2: come out and mop and sweeping shit, they came to
Speaker 2: my cell. They're like, yo, tighten up your bunkie. I
Speaker 2: fought my bunkie. He wasn't even a factor, So it's
Speaker 2: like my bragging, like I beat him up, like he
Speaker 2: wasn't even a They just want to see if I
Speaker 2: would do it. By the time I hit someter, when
Speaker 2: I got the sumpter, I was in the reception thing.
Speaker 2: I went to confinement because they found a poker in
Speaker 2: my bunk, a little six inch piece offence that got
Speaker 2: straightened out chain link fence. I went to confinement, push,
Speaker 2: come to shove. I end up in the room with
Speaker 2: a hoover crip. I cut him in confinement. So when
Speaker 2: I got out onto the compound, everybody already heard, Oh,
Speaker 2: he the one that cut so and so in confinement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight, that was the your boy had like sent
Speaker 1: over a razor to you, right, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was across He was basically across the dorm from me.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So he told me that he was in tool with
Speaker 2: my bunkie.
Speaker 1: And you were kind of cool with the bunkie, right,
Speaker 1: you were writing his mom or some shit.
Speaker 2: We were cool. You and the bunkie were cool, bro.
Speaker 1: But you're a guy who was a part of your
Speaker 1: game that tells you, hey, I got a problem with him.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even like that, to be honest, because I
Speaker 2: was cool with another crip and that crip told him
Speaker 2: to fight me in the cell. He was like, yo, bro, i'm'
Speaker 2: just bang on the wall and shit and act like
Speaker 2: we fought. I'm like, all right, but you ain't tell
Speaker 2: nobody I lost. I got you. So he's literally I'm
Speaker 2: sitting on my bunk. He's throwing himself around and he's like, yo, Bro.
Speaker 2: He's talking to this kid named Flex from Orlando. He's like, yo, Flex. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got in there, but he bumping, Bro, he got me,
Speaker 2: So I was like, this shit corny as fuck. So
Speaker 2: then one of my homies CT Charlton Thomas, he's still
Speaker 2: in there. He gets moved across the hall from me
Speaker 2: so he can see into the cell. He's like, man,
Speaker 2: tighten your bunky up. I beat the fuck out of
Speaker 2: my bunkie. But he wasn't bumping like that. I knew
Speaker 2: that already, otherwise we would have really fought. So when
Speaker 2: I get put up top because I sell floods out,
Speaker 2: another one of the homies is across from me. He
Speaker 2: can see into the cell. He basically tells me like, yo,
Speaker 2: he said this and that on the compound, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: cut him. So I'm gonna raise my hand because I
Speaker 2: just got here. I know I gotta go crazy. There
Speaker 2: was one other white blood on the compound named Brando
Speaker 2: that's my dog to this day. He was getting busy.
Speaker 2: So it's like I already kind of had something I
Speaker 2: gotta live up to because he was already doing shit.
Speaker 2: So Bro tells me he got a raise in the
Speaker 2: room right now. I'm thinking when I said I'll do
Speaker 2: it to him, like when we get out, I'll do.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, Like like what what you know?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like like two months later, like when I
Speaker 2: get out after this sixty day weapon shots like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll handle that. He's like, no, I gotta raise it
Speaker 2: right now. So I'm like, oh, fuck, And so your
Speaker 2: boy who you got?
Speaker 1: You guys have a cool little Yeah, it's your roommate. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how the fuck is this supposed Tom locked
Speaker 2: in the cell with him? Like what the fuck? So
Speaker 2: he's like, I gotta raise this something, shoot it to me.
Speaker 2: So he broke the raisin half. It's the shaven raises
Speaker 2: we get. It's one razor on the blade. So you
Speaker 2: popped the plastic, you take the blade out. So he
Speaker 2: broke it in half, put it behind his stamp on
Speaker 2: an envelope, put pictures in the envelope. When the CEO
Speaker 2: came around, your CEO passed my pictures to cell. That
Speaker 2: the thagh That's how I get the blade. When the
Speaker 2: envelope comes in, I grabbed the blade from behind the stamp.
Speaker 2: I tied it onto a little flexible pen that we
Speaker 2: get in confinement. I used sheet from my mattress. So
Speaker 2: basically I'm like texting him, I'm doing sign language and
Speaker 2: shit in the window. I'm like, y'all, I'm ready. So
Speaker 2: he tells my bunky to come to the window. When
Speaker 2: he goes to the window, he's looking at him and
Speaker 2: he's acting like he's writing some shit. So my Bunky's
Speaker 2: focused on what he's writing. And then that's when I
Speaker 2: went up and popped him. How the shit went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're when you say texting, you guys like have a.
Speaker 2: Whole Yeah, we text like ab CD all that shit.
Speaker 2: So it's like, how long does it take you to
Speaker 2: get because that's it's a lot of Yeah, I learned
Speaker 2: that ship going to court in the county jail. You know,
Speaker 2: you in court from like fucking six am to like essentially.
Speaker 1: Like you're able to communicate with anybody through just the
Speaker 1: window just with sign language, with text that's texting. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: And then like certain gangs will have different different versions
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, they'll have like different symbols and shit,
Speaker 2: because you don't want people.
Speaker 1: Because if everybody can see near your window, if like
Speaker 1: someone like yes.
Speaker 2: Then they know what you're talking. About you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, if like if my bunkie's texting but he's
Speaker 2: covering what he's saying, Now I'm suspect about it because
Speaker 2: it's like, what are you trying to.
Speaker 1: You know, what are you trying to do here? Why
Speaker 1: can't why can't I.
Speaker 2: See what the fuck you're talking about? Dann. So it's
Speaker 2: like one of them.
Speaker 1: Did you ever participate in any shoving of broomsticks anywhere? No?
Speaker 2: Hell no no. So a lot of gangs were against
Speaker 2: that ship, and then you have certain individuals that would
Speaker 2: It's just like I.
Speaker 1: Feel, it's just it feels like you have to have
Speaker 1: done something wrong, like or you have to be a
Speaker 1: kid or something to do the broomstick right.
Speaker 2: But you got to think it's like feel.
Speaker 1: Because how do you even get on the other side
Speaker 1: of that If you're like, yo, I'm down, like I'm not,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna would you say, uh, break it off
Speaker 1: breaking I'm not gonna break it off. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just I'm gonna take that brooms.
Speaker 2: Not forward breaking the ship off. Obviously there's different. So
Speaker 2: like a lot of times, it's like they'll go and
Speaker 2: get it. The first thing about prison is the second
Speaker 2: you get to reception, you're stripping ass naked and you're
Speaker 2: with like forty guys. A lot of dudes ain't never
Speaker 2: did that before.
Speaker 1: Most men, you know what I'm saying, unless you played
Speaker 1: football and it's cold as shit, so.
Speaker 2: You know, you're fucking hanging out there with a tik
Speaker 2: tac and it sucks. It's like four in the morning.
Speaker 2: You're not enjoying that shit, right, It's real awkward. Super So.
Speaker 2: The thing about the broomstick is if six dudes run
Speaker 2: down on you and hold you down and pull your
Speaker 2: pants down, you're pretty much already done, Like, yeah, take
Speaker 2: whatever food. I don't even want it. I'm not even
Speaker 2: hungry take it, you know what I mean. Usually it
Speaker 2: ends there and then you'll have that one crazy fuck
Speaker 2: that has them stick. He just bink, and then it
Speaker 2: just it turns. It turns into.
Speaker 1: You've been around when that's happened.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's certain doing that. That ship was going
Speaker 2: on and one of my friends fell victims to that.
Speaker 1: Ship though, to the stick.
Speaker 2: Yeah fuck yeah. He got hit with the stick and
Speaker 2: then he was okay after m he he never really
Speaker 2: talked about it. I found out through someone else he's
Speaker 2: from Tampa, from Roble's Park. They got him with the
Speaker 2: stick and he ended up cutting like three or four
Speaker 2: of them right after.
Speaker 1: Abye, that's something you got to die for, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this other kid from the Springs that I
Speaker 2: was in county with from Sofa Springs, North Tampa. Uh.
Speaker 2: He ended up suing and won like a hundred to
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand after he sued the Department of Corrections.
Speaker 2: But he got raped with the broomstick and he had
Speaker 2: rectal bleeding and he had to end up telling the CEOs,
Speaker 2: telling the nurses. He was put in the protective management
Speaker 2: and then he sued and won. Good for him, he
Speaker 2: got a little check off of that ship.
Speaker 1: I feel like with but like some of the like
Speaker 1: like most I think CEOs uh in terms of like
Speaker 1: would you say there's like because you're you're in there
Speaker 1: with a lot of the CEOs, you become I guess
Speaker 1: friendly would be a word at least.
Speaker 2: It just depends on who the COO is. Bro. We
Speaker 2: had coos that game Bang. They'll give us weed and
Speaker 2: K two and ship, they give us raises whatever. They
Speaker 2: just tell us not to cut people and they shift
Speaker 2: so they didn't have to rick out of the paper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that m don't have to do the paperwork with the.
Speaker 2: Blood break it it's like, yo, I'm gonna go on
Speaker 2: the smoke break at this time. You know, y'all beat them,
Speaker 2: y'all beat them up, but just don't stab them. And
Speaker 2: you know there's some CEOs that would let us fight.
Speaker 2: They let us go in the mob closet and fight.
Speaker 2: If you lost, the CEO would suck you up even more.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Then you got some CEOs that, you know, it's like
Speaker 2: Lake Butler. The CEOs got wrapped up in this thing.
Speaker 2: They were KKK.
Speaker 1: So you had.
Speaker 2: CEOs that were like racist, like a pole like that.
Speaker 2: They'll handcuff you to the pole and beat the shit
Speaker 2: out of you. They'll strips nigga. Yeah. They used to
Speaker 2: keep a paint bucket, like one of those five gallon
Speaker 2: buckets in the booth. Lake Butler has prison bars like
Speaker 2: real bars. The only place I have ever been to
Speaker 2: that had that shit. It's been like that since the seventies.
Speaker 2: And they would come through with the bucket and throw
Speaker 2: water on you in the middle of the night when
Speaker 2: it's cold as fuck. And Lake Butler, when you look
Speaker 2: out of the bars. The walls are like open windows,
Speaker 2: so birds flying and everything. It's cold as fuck. They'll
Speaker 2: hit you with the water. Do you got CEOs that
Speaker 2: will do dry buys in confinement? They'll open up all
Speaker 2: the food trays and walk by with a can of
Speaker 2: gas and just spray everybody. Crazy shit.
Speaker 1: See that's the kind of shit where you got them motherfuckers. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like when you watch uh, I think it was
Speaker 1: prison break. There was one of them coos that was
Speaker 1: like a real piece of shit, and they fucked him
Speaker 1: up when they ran into him, and like when he
Speaker 1: was in like regular clothes. Yeah, you ever run into
Speaker 1: a ceo like in the wild, like after you got out.
Speaker 2: Nah, I ain't gonna lie like after some shit. I
Speaker 2: got beat at uh Butler, I got cut at Butler,
Speaker 2: and then they beat me because I wouldn't tell them
Speaker 2: who cut me.
Speaker 1: So the seos fucked you up because you were Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Fucked me up, and then they put me in confinement
Speaker 2: and they didn't they didn't clean me up. Like I
Speaker 2: was covered in blood. So I'm smelling like that metallic
Speaker 2: smell for the next couple of days until I went
Speaker 2: to my next prison. And then they fucked me up
Speaker 2: at Lancaster. They fucked everybody up. But I used to
Speaker 2: think about that shit, bro, Like I would think about,
Speaker 2: like I want to be that one person that just
Speaker 2: pulls up here during shift change and just shoots all
Speaker 2: of them, you know what I mean, Like you sat
Speaker 2: fantasizing about killing these people.
Speaker 1: Because the way they treat Yeah, because the way they
Speaker 1: treat you.
Speaker 2: And then it's like it's not only that, Like you
Speaker 2: gotta watch things happen to people, and if you're not
Speaker 2: seeing it, you're hearing it, and that shit sticks with you,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I don't see my
Speaker 2: homies get cuffed up and just get punched on and
Speaker 2: they can't do shit but just make a face. And
Speaker 2: you hear them grunt. You hear the sounds, and you
Speaker 2: hear the screams, and you know, and it fucks with
Speaker 2: you that that shit sticks with you. You don't, you
Speaker 2: don't think about it in the moment, but after you see.
Speaker 1: You feel like you have PTSD.
Speaker 2: I know I do, yeah, yeah, but I never felt
Speaker 2: like that when I was in there. When you're in there,
Speaker 2: there's so much chaos going on. Your time goes by faster.
Speaker 2: There's too much to focus on. When you're released and
Speaker 2: everything's peaceful, that's when you realize how fucked you are.
Speaker 2: You you can't sit in peace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they always say, like, if you go to
Speaker 1: the FEDS, it's a lot more chill, right at least
Speaker 1: that's what they say.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what I heard. But if you
Speaker 2: go to a USP, bro, that's just like that. And
Speaker 2: they got hands off policies where there's no fighting. If
Speaker 2: we're into it, we gotta go at it with knives.
Speaker 2: It's like, but we had you know, there was certain
Speaker 2: jit camps. Like when we touched down at Landcaster, people
Speaker 2: are talking about fighting and then they're like, what's fighting?
Speaker 2: We don't do that here. We're like, what like something,
Speaker 2: we only do stabbing bros. Something you would have like
Speaker 2: gang fights. It'd be like six crips versus scrapping six bloods,
Speaker 2: you know, and they're all just lining up and everyone
Speaker 2: will fight. If me and you were six to one,
Speaker 2: we're gonna fight. If that five five, yea fight, man.
Speaker 2: We got the land Caster. They're like, you better get
Speaker 2: a box cutter, you better get that. And they had
Speaker 2: box like real box cutters from the street, big fat
Speaker 2: ass box cutters. So when people are getting cut you
Speaker 2: can see inside like their teeth and shit, you know,
Speaker 2: like the whole cheeks fucking hanging off like shit was crazy.
Speaker 2: So like people were getting fucked up and fucked up bad,
Speaker 2: and it just made you think like you didn't even
Speaker 2: want to get into it with people because you just know,
Speaker 2: like some of your homies are gonna.
Speaker 1: Get hit right, but you almost like, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: try to keep like you want to keep things as
Speaker 1: diplomatic as possible, because you know what comes on the
Speaker 1: other side.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, and you know when it popped, it ain't
Speaker 2: gonna be no light shit, It's gonna be real fucking
Speaker 2: you know, like people are getting sucked up. There was
Speaker 2: a kid that got hit up at the work camp.
Speaker 2: He was, uh, he was false claiming to be a zou,
Speaker 2: so the zo's got him. So this short zo ran
Speaker 2: up behind him with a box cutter and slit his
Speaker 2: ship from here all the way to the back of
Speaker 2: his head. This other Zoe that was strong as fuck
Speaker 2: ran up slammed him on the floor. The little Zoe's
Speaker 2: jumps on top of him with the box cutter starts swiping,
Speaker 2: so like all the tendons in his hand got cut through,
Speaker 2: so he can't close his hands because he was trying
Speaker 2: to cover his face. And then it's pinky got cut
Speaker 2: in half. So he stands up and runs over the CEO.
Speaker 2: His ship's dangling bro all his whole ship's wide the
Speaker 2: funk over. They try to put an attempt murder case
Speaker 2: on the ones that did it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was bad. That sounds like attempted
Speaker 1: murder to me, it was bad.
Speaker 2: I tried to interview him after we got out. He
Speaker 2: didn't even want to speak about it. He was from
Speaker 2: brow account, he moved up to Tallahassee. He won't even
Speaker 2: talk about it in public. Hit got hit up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know I think you've obviously became of cultural
Speaker 1: relevance to the point where you're starting to get you know,
Speaker 1: your name dropped in records and shit, and I just
Speaker 1: saw you connected with Lotto out here, are like like
Speaker 1: how Like? I guess I would ask, like, where do
Speaker 1: you feel like the resignation with because you've resonated a
Speaker 1: lot with certain artists, you know what I'm saying? Do
Speaker 1: you think it's just because I think in hip hop, man,
Speaker 1: it is definitely a perception game rather than a reality game.
Speaker 1: So a lot of artists, obviously they live life and
Speaker 1: they make money based off of the perception in their image.
Speaker 1: And like you kind of come in like the dream
Speaker 1: shatterer on some of these guys. You're like, well, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? What what? Like can you remember kind of
Speaker 1: like the first artist who tapped in with you and
Speaker 1: like was like, hey, I like what you're doing. Keep
Speaker 1: that ship going.
Speaker 2: I mean there's been a lot. Uh. I think Julio
Speaker 2: Fulio was.
Speaker 1: One of the rest in Peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rest in Peace. That was like really early on
Speaker 2: and it's fucked up because when he got killed. I
Speaker 2: knew he was coming to Tampa. I was going to
Speaker 2: reach out and see if you want to do an interview. Ah,
Speaker 2: and then he got killed.
Speaker 1: Guy. I interviewed him twice and I said it during
Speaker 1: the interview, I was like, it just feels like that
Speaker 1: this your ending is already we already know how it's
Speaker 1: gonna end. Yeah, like it was it was expected. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just drove past that hotel the other day and Uh,
Speaker 2: it's just weird thinking about like that, you know, But
Speaker 2: I mean from him to obviously, like the big names
Speaker 2: would be Lotto. Dirk put me on a song. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Kodak shouted me out at Rolling Loud, but that shit
Speaker 2: kind of went left. More recently, fifty had me on
Speaker 2: his Instagram. It's been a lot of people. But then Drake.
Speaker 2: When Drake put me on a song, that shit, I
Speaker 2: went to the strip club immediately, I bet as soon
Speaker 2: as that shit got sent to me, yeah, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're going. I wanted to call people that. Look, Drake
Speaker 2: put me on the song. We're getting a section what
Speaker 2: strip club? I don't even fucking I think it was.
Speaker 2: It was some ghetto ass shit out there. I wasn't Orlando,
Speaker 2: and I drove all the way over here just to
Speaker 2: fucking yeah, I forget which from the whislow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is interesting. Yeah, the hulio fulio thing,
Speaker 1: like if it feels like man like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like what you were saying was like how kids
Speaker 1: are like conditioned in prison and how they come out
Speaker 1: the other side. It's like hip hop fans. I feel
Speaker 1: like because of the YouTube culture, I guess where a
Speaker 1: lot of artists are. They're not necessarily even known for
Speaker 1: music anymore as much as they're known for like what
Speaker 1: they do in the streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like, fan that's what made everybody so
Speaker 2: much more official in the eyes of everyone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like, well, I got a hood documentary
Speaker 1: that Swamp Stories did about me.
Speaker 2: Or whoever, and then I'm doing fuck that whole shit up. Nah, bitch,
Speaker 2: you ratted you not like that. So it's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the thing is for me. I was just doing
Speaker 2: prison shit and then I only got sent this to
Speaker 2: three years. I'm not gonna have twenty years worth the
Speaker 2: fucking Yeah. So I started covering criminal cases. So I
Speaker 2: did a story in Palm Beach and this kid that
Speaker 2: went to seven eleven and he robbed the seven eleven
Speaker 2: and this white Karen lady tried to stop the robbery.
Speaker 2: She got shot in the head. The kid had a
Speaker 2: YouTube video with like six thousand views.
Speaker 1: He was a rapper.
Speaker 2: I mean he had one video, okay, with six thousand views.
Speaker 2: One song. I put rapper in the title and the
Speaker 2: video went crazy. And then that's what was like the
Speaker 2: light bulb, like, oh, I'm gonna start covering rappers. So
Speaker 2: at first it was just criminal cases, and then I
Speaker 2: started finding out like who was snitching and shit, and then.
Speaker 1: You already like like like, was it on accident that
Speaker 1: you were able to figure that out, because obviously there's
Speaker 1: a process to being able to get public paperwork.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really thinking like, no, I wasn't an accident
Speaker 2: because I was getting public paperwork on myself.
Speaker 1: So you were like, oh, if I could do this
Speaker 1: for me, I could get it.
Speaker 2: Because people were like, oh, you didn't have a gun, joge,
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't do this, you didn't do that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, well I got the reports. Oh you didn't
Speaker 2: get caught with a weapon. Oh you didn't do nothing
Speaker 2: in prison? All right, I got all my disciplinary reports.
Speaker 2: You didn't do a year in confinement. This says I
Speaker 2: did fucking a year straight, right, So it's like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you kind of like I'm like, I'm like fact
Speaker 1: checking myself, checked yourself and moved to the fans. And
Speaker 1: then a light went off for I.
Speaker 2: Was like, wait, if I can look my shit, if
Speaker 2: I can look that shit up, because TMZ does it.
Speaker 1: Who was the first startist you were able to I
Speaker 1: think I think it was spot Him got him. I
Speaker 1: think he was like the first and he's from Orlando,
Speaker 1: right or Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Nah, he from jackson Jackson Yeah, he from Jacksonville. And
Speaker 2: then when that happened, I guess like that's what started
Speaker 2: the beef with like me and set Cheese and shit.
Speaker 2: And because he was trying to interview.
Speaker 1: Me, I didn't know you had to be for Set Cheese.
Speaker 2: I really didn't either, because he never said it. But
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he working with spot Him got
Speaker 2: Him or something. He signed him.
Speaker 1: Oh, spot Him got Him, was signed to Say Cheese.
Speaker 2: And he was about to have a song with Dirk,
Speaker 2: and Dirk gave him the money back. Oh right. I
Speaker 2: didn't know any of this either, So like this is
Speaker 2: before I did any major interview. No jumper reshot to
Speaker 2: me first. I told him I was going to do
Speaker 2: that first, So I was waiting to do that before
Speaker 2: I did Say Cheese. After the spot Him Got Him
Speaker 2: shit happened, Say Cheese never posted me again. The only
Speaker 2: time they would post me is if it was like
Speaker 2: some negative, negative shit about you, yeah, or they would
Speaker 2: post like a major thing that I covered, they would just.
Speaker 1: Exclude me, exclude your part of it. Yeah. So it
Speaker 1: was like common sense, like well, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if this artist assigned to me and
Speaker 1: you kind of yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know though, so it wasn't But would you.
Speaker 1: Have would you have not exposed him had you known
Speaker 1: that he was signed to say she's nah?
Speaker 2: I probably just would have told say she's.
Speaker 1: Like hey, just so you know, the homies a rat? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like well, I mean at least. I mean that's the
Speaker 1: thing is like I wonder like for you, like, if
Speaker 1: you find someone is snitching, have you ever not aired
Speaker 1: him out because maybe you have a relationship.
Speaker 2: Or in my homie did a video with somebody I exposed,
Speaker 2: and before the video released, I was talking to my homie.
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I just did a video with Uh.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, well I'm about to drop his
Speaker 2: body cam footage, so uh, you know, drop your video,
Speaker 2: make your money. But I'm still finna And that's how
Speaker 2: it played up.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: So he dropped the video with Dune then right after
Speaker 2: the fucking blasted the ship.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man. Have you ever gotten anything wrong that
Speaker 1: you had to walk back a little or you felt
Speaker 1: like maybe.
Speaker 2: Track one hundred in the YNW Melly case, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: misspoke on that one. It was something to do with
Speaker 2: him turning over the cell phone as evidence and that
Speaker 2: having a negative impact on Melli. So how I corrected
Speaker 2: that was I did an interview with.
Speaker 1: Track and let him clear it up.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, we got the story situated because the paperwork
Speaker 2: aligned with what he was saying. So it was a misrepresentation.
Speaker 2: As far as like the snitch and shit, it's really
Speaker 2: all like opinion, I guess, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you said it best with
Speaker 1: the gunn of thing. Right, It's like gun is only
Speaker 1: a snitch if young thug says he's a snitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other than that, nobody gives a fuck, right, And.
Speaker 1: I would would you say that young thugs behavior towards
Speaker 1: Gunna since being released has at least insinuated that he
Speaker 1: thinks that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think their best friend.
Speaker 1: He still signed to him, right, there's like why is
Speaker 1: that still putting out Gunns record?
Speaker 2: I mean money, money is money. But then it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like they're cool.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it feels like like just half of Atlanta
Speaker 1: just put him over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing is, you got to be
Speaker 2: big enough to make something happen. So like I've dropped
Speaker 2: ship on people that have still maintained their career, and.
Speaker 1: I think, like I wasston Richie was one of your
Speaker 1: famous ones, right, Yeah, that one was initially really affected
Speaker 1: his career negatively because I think it got taken off
Speaker 1: of between.
Speaker 2: I mean people say that, but like, bro, like.
Speaker 1: But he just had his biggest song in his career,
Speaker 1: saved me, his biggest hit.
Speaker 2: Like six days after that ship dropped. When I dropped
Speaker 2: that ship, he got signed for like six million. True,
Speaker 2: So who gives the fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's like people are still going to have their
Speaker 2: opinion on that, like, oh, he gave fake names whatever, whatever,
Speaker 2: And I can show you what name was real and
Speaker 2: what name you know, but it's like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that like, even if even if
Speaker 1: it's upt for interpretation, the fact that you make a
Speaker 1: video about somebody, it's there's a stigma where you're like, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, though everyone has
Speaker 2: the mentality of he didn't snitch on me, I think
Speaker 2: people get it confused and they think that I genuinely
Speaker 2: give a fuck. I don't care.
Speaker 1: You're just mak bro.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't if I wasn't making money off of
Speaker 2: this ship. I wouldn't give a fuck for sure, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, nah, I'm not gonna go
Speaker 2: do an interview with Boston Richie. And people have actually
Speaker 2: tried to make that happen.
Speaker 1: People have tried to make you and him sit down together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they'd be entertaining.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wouldn't end how you know. Yeah, all
Speaker 2: one of us got to do is say something stupid
Speaker 2: and it's turning in a whole other situation.
Speaker 1: Was flat style, dude, the fucking you know, put them
Speaker 1: on the screen.
Speaker 2: It's just like, you know what I mean, But it's
Speaker 2: just all the matter, Like finesse two times was another one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, so with his situation, he claims whatever. Whatever
Speaker 2: the PaperWorks as otherwise. I got in contact with all
Speaker 2: three co defendants that got told on. They said what
Speaker 2: they said. People don't care what.
Speaker 1: About So you did? You did say something about someone
Speaker 1: who I consider a dear friend, my boy Grito, uh
Speaker 1: oh three Grido.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's who I saw in Miami, I rolling loud,
Speaker 2: so you.
Speaker 1: Ran into him and and in Miami room, I ain't
Speaker 1: really run into him, I was. You guys are in
Speaker 1: the same area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was inside the No jump A tent and
Speaker 2: Remo came up to me and was like, yo, you
Speaker 2: into it with Grito. I'm like, I mean, you know
Speaker 2: what happened, Like we're not fucking cool. He's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: he's right outside the tent. Like I bet, so, I
Speaker 2: walked over right. It's like, I'm gonna show face. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna sit in the turn You.
Speaker 1: Guys didn't drop it up it all. Nah.
Speaker 2: He just looked my way out, looked his way.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have a conversation. There's not really nothing
Speaker 2: to speak on, you know, because from what I heard,
Speaker 2: I was banned from LA. And then right after I
Speaker 2: was banned from LA, I went to LA and did
Speaker 2: another no Jumping interview. Like I said, the whole thing
Speaker 2: was people from his hood sent me the shit. All
Speaker 2: I did was cover the case. I don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck about Grito. I'm not saying that disrespectfully. I don't
Speaker 2: know him. I don't give a fuck about the situation.
Speaker 2: This is the type of shit that I cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you cover shit, I mean this is what you do.
Speaker 2: So it's like in his situation, trying to remember exactly
Speaker 2: what it was. It was more or less like if
Speaker 2: me and you get pulled over and you know, they
Speaker 2: find a bunch of shit in the CAI and I
Speaker 2: tell the police like, yeah, I felt like he was
Speaker 2: doing some weird shit. You're gonna be like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is wrong with you? Why would you say that?
Speaker 1: You know? So, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've seen some shit in the blogs not that long
Speaker 2: ago saying he just got robbed or some shit.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's fact or not. I don't
Speaker 2: have pressure with Grito, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 2: why when I seen him, I'm not gonna run up
Speaker 2: and a but I'm gonna just move how you move.
Speaker 2: And he kept that shit pushing, So I kept that
Speaker 2: ship pushing.
Speaker 1: Have you decided to not expose somebody for whatever reason
Speaker 1: even though you have shit where you're like, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an interrogation video on a big rapper.
Speaker 1: Why haven't you dropped it?
Speaker 2: Because I know what it's gonna turn into.
Speaker 1: So when you say you know what it's gonna turn
Speaker 1: into in terms of there's.
Speaker 2: Certain topics that if I speak on it to to
Speaker 2: take me out of the equation, it becomes a race thing, right, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's trying to bring a you know, he's trying to
Speaker 2: bring a black man down, and he's a white man.
Speaker 2: That's when all the Oh, he must be an FBI agent,
Speaker 2: he must be a clans man, he must be of
Speaker 2: this and that and all that.
Speaker 1: You're part of some CIA operation.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, I already know that who it
Speaker 2: is is going to get a pass. So why do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, why stir up some ship?
Speaker 2: Why stir up some ship that in a fucking you know,
Speaker 2: two weeks, nobody's gonna give a fuck about And it's
Speaker 2: just gonna cause me more of a pain in the
Speaker 2: ass than anything. So I don't need the money that bad.
Speaker 1: So for you, it's more about like, like I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, do you ever feel any like I guess,
Speaker 1: like like you said, you hear that, you hear the
Speaker 1: conversations out there about you know, tearing black men down,
Speaker 1: or why is this dude? You know, this guy makes
Speaker 1: money off of essentially, you know, exposing cultural figures and
Speaker 1: hip hop, and I mean it's it's I mean, Adam
Speaker 1: gets the same ship that it gets the same ship.
Speaker 2: Anybody that's white gets the same ship.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get call it a culture. Culture all the time.
Speaker 2: I cover crime. So if you define your culture as crime,
Speaker 2: that's not a met issue, right, I cover crime.
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever exposed anybody who wasn't in
Speaker 1: you ever heard a little piru?
Speaker 2: No, the Jewish kid from New York that moved down
Speaker 2: to Miami and got a whole new identity. I tatted
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of blood shit on him and claims
Speaker 2: he's from the South Bronx. He went to a private
Speaker 2: school in Syracuse, New York. Dismantled this kid's whole life.
Speaker 2: It's got over a million views. No one talks about it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The Island boys done them too. I jumped on the
Speaker 2: phone with them. Bro, I facetimed one of them. He
Speaker 2: was cool because it was like, how are y'all bloods?
Speaker 2: Like I'm just confused, you know, like how did this happen?
Speaker 2: So they ended up telling me it was some kid
Speaker 2: from Atlanta who told them they were this and that,
Speaker 2: and they got told the wrong shit, and they basically
Speaker 2: gave it. The phone call was respectful, it wasn't any
Speaker 2: crazy shit. And then it come to find out the
Speaker 2: dude from Atlanta was false claiming twenty one savage of shit,
Speaker 2: he got the same little cross on his forehead of
Speaker 2: the knife and he moved to LA and now he
Speaker 2: looks like fucking little Uzy with fucking color shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like on some weird shit.
Speaker 2: So it's like people are gonna pick and choose what
Speaker 2: they want to do. I know what my fan base
Speaker 2: wants to see. They want to see hip hop, they
Speaker 2: want to see street ship. All right, Well, how many
Speaker 2: fucking white people am I gonna be able to do
Speaker 2: videos while you never cover a white rapper?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: How many white rappers are there? How many of them
Speaker 2: are on that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How many white rappers are like gangster rappers? Millions?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, other than that, like
Speaker 2: you're not really seeing. And then at the same time,
Speaker 2: those are two white rappers that are smart. They're not
Speaker 2: crashouts for sure, you know what I mean? Like you
Speaker 2: got u what is it low Wick? I think he's
Speaker 2: from Saint Louis bro.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of white rap shit that's.
Speaker 2: Gonna crazy, and he be on the drill ship too,
Speaker 2: But it's like it's just it's not as common and what's.
Speaker 1: The big dude who says the N word? From Texas?
Speaker 2: I forget I got glarious. Uh, isn't it like g
Speaker 2: something I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, not just solve. I said that video and
Speaker 1: him at south By Southwest getting into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I seen the video of him at the mall
Speaker 2: beating Shu up. But he's like six five six'.
Speaker 1: Six he's a big.
Speaker 2: Dude so it's, like, yeah you could say all, that
Speaker 2: but can you do something to? Him, Right that's where
Speaker 2: it becomes a Different see me like this videos of
Speaker 2: me saying THE n ware or whatever, Whatever like HOW
Speaker 2: i talk to my, people my, homies, whatever that's. That
Speaker 2: but WHEN i got on, YouTube that's not HOW i
Speaker 2: was trying to present. Myself, Right so when you go
Speaker 2: do a job, application you're gonna you're gonna put on
Speaker 2: that lawyer. Voice.
Speaker 1: YEAH i feel like if you grew up In, florida
Speaker 1: at LEAST i didn't grow up. Here OBVIOUSLY i lived
Speaker 1: here a few. Years everybody says, it but if you,
Speaker 1: are you know the white boys In, florida who? Who
Speaker 1: who are with the? Ships it's just it's just even.
Speaker 2: What country white boys will say that ship and it's
Speaker 2: not it's not like a racist. Thing it's. Not it's
Speaker 2: just it's the. Vocab it's the fucking slang down. Here
Speaker 2: so it's, like but for, me business, Wise i'm not
Speaker 2: gonna get A netflix deal If i'm saying this and.
Speaker 2: That so it's, like, yeah if you want to be
Speaker 2: a rapper and you want to do, that you're limiting
Speaker 2: yourself by saying. It because WHAT i understood early, on
Speaker 2: even in, prison is not only DO i not benefit
Speaker 2: from saying, it there's no good way to explain it
Speaker 2: right and justify. IT i might as well not even do.
Speaker 1: It, yeah what's the.
Speaker 2: Point so that's my viewpoint on.
Speaker 1: It you're just sucking up your. Money, yeah it's holding you. Back.
Speaker 1: YEAH i had a homi Name Interstate facts just locked
Speaker 1: up In cleveland right now or In. Ohio and he's
Speaker 1: one of the big most legendary battle rappers ever shot
Speaker 1: The fats free. Fast he's a white boy and uh
Speaker 1: and all his. Battles early, on he would always say
Speaker 1: the FUCKING n, word you, KNOW i tell this. FOOL
Speaker 1: i was, Like, bro you'd be so much bigger dog
Speaker 1: because now you got you have something that like people
Speaker 1: can use against you if they you, got you're giving
Speaker 1: people a reason not to fuck with. You.
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean WHEN i was in, PRISON i got
Speaker 2: into it with A muslim dude over saying, it and you, know, he,
Speaker 2: OH i ain't gonna let no white. Boy but mind,
Speaker 2: you when you're In Florida State, prison everybody's saying cracker,
Speaker 2: right and this and, that you know. Whatever they're mainly
Speaker 2: talking about the police, though oh the crackers did this or.
Speaker 2: That but even when someone says something a certain, way
Speaker 2: you're gonna it's gonna you're gonna feel that. Sting AND
Speaker 2: i t how you know the intent behind. It so
Speaker 2: he overheard me and wanted to create a situation and
Speaker 2: it basically became bloods Versus. Muslims and there was only
Speaker 2: like three of them in the dorm that we were,
Speaker 2: in SO i had had they all numbered, us it
Speaker 2: probably would have went, somewhere but the situation went. Away
Speaker 2: and like that's the thing, is LIKE i didn't really
Speaker 2: recognize it because WHEN i first got on, YouTube, Bro
Speaker 2: i'm telling these, Stories i'm, like, YEAH i fucked up
Speaker 2: so and, so AND i cut this one AND i did.
Speaker 2: That everyone's. Black so then you'll ask somebody in the
Speaker 2: comments like that he's talking about cutting off people and
Speaker 2: doing this. Stuff, like, FUCK i didn't even think of
Speaker 2: it that, way you know WHAT i. Mean but it's
Speaker 2: like all of my homies in there, black you, know
Speaker 2: a Fucking Puerto, Rican, dominican. Whatever but it's like everybody
Speaker 2: was all a part of the same, shit and we
Speaker 2: didn't view it that way until people in the comments
Speaker 2: make you look at things, differently and then it's like.
Speaker 2: Fuck but when it comes to like, YouTube hip, hop the,
Speaker 2: culture et, cetera you're gonna have people that don't like you.
Speaker 2: Regardless so it's LIKE i really don't give a. Fuck
Speaker 2: i'm not here to please. People i'm here to just
Speaker 2: make this.
Speaker 1: Money and, YEAH i MEAN i feel like that is
Speaker 1: kind of like you, KNOW i. WAS i was, saying
Speaker 1: like a little bit like the fans are so desensitized
Speaker 1: to when people get hurt now or. Die it's, like you,
Speaker 1: know whether it's your channel Or Swamp stories Or trapper Or,
Speaker 1: ross it's like just fans are just waiting for The
Speaker 1: it's almost like they're waiting for the end of THEIR
Speaker 1: tv show they're, watching and that end is someone.
Speaker 2: Dying, well, yeah it's like modern day. Gladiators, right everyone's
Speaker 2: there for the. Violence they want to see the. Violence
Speaker 2: they want to have everything to do with it except
Speaker 2: participate in. It we love hearing about. It we love this.
Speaker 2: Song oh he dissed? Him or how's he gonna? Respond
Speaker 2: oh let, me let me write something on His. Instagram
Speaker 2: oh so.
Speaker 1: So just you're gonna. Slap, yeah you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Slaugh but now he comes back with some. Shit, now
Speaker 2: motherfucker get. Killed oh it's really. Happening all his music's.
Speaker 2: Real then he.
Speaker 1: Died some of those comments were just fucked.
Speaker 2: Man, yeah but you got people that are also, sad,
Speaker 2: Right and it's, like how fake are you that you're
Speaker 2: acting sad when you were hyping this shit the whole,
Speaker 2: time Participating that doesn't make any. Sense you loved everything
Speaker 2: about it until he got, nailed but you didn't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about anyone else that died in the.
Speaker 1: Process, yeah it's LIKE i was just talking with my
Speaker 1: boyfriend the label About. Dirk you, know Obviously dirk's fucking amazing,
Speaker 1: artist and his situation is just so sad because it's
Speaker 1: like there's no Way internet pressure didn't play some sort
Speaker 1: of part in like, him like making some really ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Decisions but think about the in House prussia, too there's
Speaker 2: the in. House but how many songs has he? Said
Speaker 2: i'm around the? Killers? Right, okay well you're around all
Speaker 2: these killers and now they're looking at you like what's.
Speaker 2: Next you, know we'll do, it but we need you
Speaker 2: to you, know you need you to get the rental
Speaker 2: cars to. Fly you got the money to make it, happen,
Speaker 2: right you. Know so it's like how much in house
Speaker 2: pressure was also being applied because he can't just walk
Speaker 2: away from the. Killers you see What i'm. Saying you
Speaker 2: got to feed the wolves you surround yourself. With so
Speaker 2: in that, sense what the fuck could he really?
Speaker 1: Do? YEAH i MEAN i THINK i think when you're that, big, though,
Speaker 1: man you got to kind of like have the wherewithal to,
Speaker 1: understand LIKE i can't be one foot and one for
Speaker 1: out no.
Speaker 2: More, Yeah and that's you, know this is probably MY
Speaker 2: i think it is my first time publicly speaking on.
Speaker 2: It but like you brought, Up i'm a white. Blood
Speaker 2: none of that shit's on My instagram. Anymore all the
Speaker 2: pictures are taken, down all the Fucking LIKE i turned
Speaker 2: thirty AND i was just like this shit doesn't serve.
Speaker 2: Me you, know it made sense in, prison brotherly love
Speaker 2: overriding impressure and. Destruction i'm, broke you. Broke we come,
Speaker 2: Together we. Eat they want to fuck us, Up well
Speaker 2: we're gonna fuck them up. Together you, know out here
Speaker 2: doesn't make any fucking. Sense why AM i risking WHAT
Speaker 2: i got going on to Portraying i'm not out here
Speaker 2: sliding on, shit doing, shit you, know so it doesn't make.
Speaker 2: Sense and then not only, that but people are on the.
Speaker 2: Internet people are gonna question if you're, tough if you're,
Speaker 2: authentic if you're, real, whatever, right and there's nothing you
Speaker 2: Can't you can kill people and they'll still think you
Speaker 2: ain't tough enough because you don't have as many bodies as.
Speaker 2: Him you, know it never ends for. Me my what
Speaker 2: got me, was you, know traveling and meeting people and
Speaker 2: meeting people at the top of the food, chain within
Speaker 2: the you, know and seeing, like, damn, y'all ain't you
Speaker 2: Ain't scott, faced you ain't fucking. Loaded like a lot
Speaker 2: of the people that Started blood back in the nineties
Speaker 2: on The East coast Of New york are all, broken fucked.
Speaker 2: UP a lot of the big homies are broken fucked.
Speaker 2: Up so if you're forty fifty years old and your life,
Speaker 2: sucks why DO, i as a thirty year old who's
Speaker 2: making more money than almost the majority of the entire fucking.
Speaker 2: Gang the fuck AM i doing over? Here it doesn't
Speaker 2: make any. Sense and, then, uh you know there's some
Speaker 2: kids out Of boston that are cranking up, lately the
Speaker 2: comedians and.
Speaker 1: The guys at the sandwich.
Speaker 2: Shop, yeah, yeah, yeah it's my. Dogs so they linked
Speaker 2: up With Mike wahlberg and.
Speaker 1: Then, yeah they're. FUNNY i follow them.
Speaker 2: In, yeah they're doing what they're, doing and, uh you,
Speaker 2: know LIKE i had asked one of, them, like, yo
Speaker 2: tap me in With, Mark AND i asked him AND
Speaker 2: i could tell he was kind of cautious, obviously like
Speaker 2: that's a Big.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a big. Layup, yeah it's a big.
Speaker 2: Layup but at the same, time it's LIKE i had
Speaker 2: to look at, myself, like, wait who AM? I who
Speaker 2: is he presenting To Mark? Wahlberg AND i looked at
Speaker 2: My instagram and it's like it's banged. Out it's me
Speaker 2: with thirty forty people with red flags this and. That
Speaker 2: it's LIKE i make him look bad even presenting that
Speaker 2: you know What i'm. SAYING i already solidified WHO i
Speaker 2: am with What i've done and everything. Else the shit
Speaker 2: like THE n word and everything, else all it does
Speaker 2: is hold you back when you get to a certain.
Speaker 2: POINT i don't want to be forty acting Like i'm.
Speaker 2: Twenty and that's the reality of what a lot of gangs.
Speaker 2: Are it's the same shit in. Prison you got a
Speaker 2: lot of forty year old teenagers that a big gang
Speaker 2: members that don't give a fuck about, life don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about your, life and they stay in the
Speaker 2: same cycle because they can never figure it, out you
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean so like that's Where i'm at
Speaker 2: now with a lot of that shit and with a
Speaker 2: lot of the. Rapers the ones that get away from
Speaker 2: everything are the ones that, survive.
Speaker 1: And they have. Longevity they have.
Speaker 2: LONGEVITY i mean even With Thug, bro like After thug
Speaker 2: blew up and all that, shit like they're grabbing him
Speaker 2: on old, shit you know WHAT i. Mean and even
Speaker 2: just with shit that's happened In. Tampa People i've known
Speaker 2: the maybe met once or twice and they get arrested
Speaker 2: on some crazy. SHIT i don't want to be tied into.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah like because you never know what discovery like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no it's it's it's a thing where where you, know
Speaker 1: you see a lot of guys and you're, like, damn
Speaker 1: like you see that you meet somebody when they first
Speaker 1: come in the, game and then you'll meet him like
Speaker 1: six months later or a year later when things are
Speaker 1: and then you'll, see oh, Okay Like mazzie's a perfect.
Speaker 1: Example mazzi's my. Brother you, KNOW i Love. Mazzi he
Speaker 1: just shouted me. Up YEAH i saw. That But, mazzi,
Speaker 1: uh you, know the first TIME i Interviewed, mozzi he
Speaker 1: came to the radio station with forty. PEOPLE i got in.
Speaker 1: Trouble it was a. Lot but now AND i you,
Speaker 1: Know mozzi comes to. It it's just like him and, one,
Speaker 1: two three. People he's you, KNOW i think LIKE i
Speaker 1: think he, understood like you, know OBVIOUSLY i had to
Speaker 1: go sit down, recently BUT i think he started to
Speaker 1: understand the last few, years like OH i got, it
Speaker 1: like a real opportunity, here like to he's already, rich
Speaker 1: but it's like you also are. Great so it's like
Speaker 1: if you want to be great, man like in the music,
Speaker 1: game you really gotta you really gotta be two ten
Speaker 1: toes In, Man and it's like maybe back in like
Speaker 1: two thousand and, one two thousand and, three when Like
Speaker 1: Fat joe was running around fucking fools up and fifty
Speaker 1: was doing what fifty was. Doing this was prior to The,
Speaker 1: internet and this was prior there was hip hop police back,
Speaker 1: then but they it was a lot harder for them
Speaker 1: to find shit. Out a lot of like the self
Speaker 1: snitsch and shit is so.
Speaker 2: Crazy, yeah it's crazy. Now AND i mean just like
Speaker 2: WHEN i pulled up the No, jumper Like i'm here by, myself,
Speaker 2: right you know What i'm. Saying WHEN i pulled up
Speaker 2: the No, JUMPER i came with a shitload of, people
Speaker 2: and then you know that turned into old Ten ninty
Speaker 2: j pulls up with the bloods From. Florida uh. Yeah
Speaker 2: in the, Moment i'm, like, oh, yeah, yeah you, know
Speaker 2: whatever whatever this, is you, know shit's going. Viral but
Speaker 2: then NOW i think about, it like what if me
Speaker 2: pulling up like that prevented The Joe rogan, interview or
Speaker 2: prevented the theovonn, interview or prevented the because why the
Speaker 2: fuck would they want all of that coming to where they,
Speaker 2: work you, Know so it's just like.
Speaker 1: That or prevents like certain linkups that you don't even
Speaker 1: know are possible because they're, like.
Speaker 2: You know, What i'm not SAYING i would have had
Speaker 2: what if you're, like, YEAH i fuck with, dude but
Speaker 2: BUT i don't. KNOW i don't want to bring that.
Speaker 2: Ship you. Know it just it just made me question
Speaker 2: myself and What i'm putting out and you, know the
Speaker 2: image THAT i want to continue to. Have you, know
Speaker 2: you see a lot of videos of these rappers getting
Speaker 2: killed with their.
Speaker 1: Kids, yeah that one In dallas was. Heartbreaking, YEAH i
Speaker 1: saw you covered. That that could have been me and my.
Speaker 1: DAUGHTER i got a seven year old little.
Speaker 2: Girl yeah you know What i'm, Saying like, THAT i
Speaker 2: would HOPE i die BECAUSE i wouldn't want to survive.
Speaker 2: That and she, didn't you know WHAT i. Mean so it's,
Speaker 2: like all, right, well how DO i prevent? That change
Speaker 2: the Image i'm. Giving stop with the fucking you, know
Speaker 2: presenting myself in a certain way because that's what people
Speaker 2: are gonna expect when they see, me and a lot
Speaker 2: of people are surprised That i'm mad. COOL i always
Speaker 2: take pictures with, people shake, hands thank you all that,
Speaker 2: ship you, know so it's just Like i'm not trying
Speaker 2: to give off an image of a lifestyle THAT i
Speaker 2: no longer in A.
Speaker 1: Yeah because the other, thing, too is you gotta, Understand
Speaker 1: like you, KNOW i feel like once you have a, kid,
Speaker 1: man things, change for, Sure they're supposed. To they're supposed.
Speaker 1: To and the other thing is you're supposed to. Change,
Speaker 1: yeah you. Know it's like you're supposed to want to
Speaker 1: get out the. Hood you're supposed to want to never
Speaker 1: go like all, This, like, man you don't even come
Speaker 1: to like why WOULD i go to the?
Speaker 2: Hood like why are y'all going to the club every
Speaker 2: weekend celebrating? Failure?
Speaker 1: Yeah why are we over here popping bottles on fucking you,
Speaker 1: know at a night, clubs you, know for five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a bottle when you you can't even fucking pay your.
Speaker 1: Rent you can't even you don't even know the fucking.
Speaker 2: House, no you take the homeless to a nice. Restaurant
Speaker 2: they don't even know what the order, like what like
Speaker 2: what's market? Price how do y'all know the whole McDonald's
Speaker 2: menu by High but you don't even know how you
Speaker 2: want your? Stay?
Speaker 1: YEAH i just, think you, know just different, man when
Speaker 1: you grow, up, bro you're supposed to, mature, Right and
Speaker 1: the thing is in the YouTube world is oh well.
Speaker 2: You would never like that. Anyway oh, well you pussy that's.
Speaker 1: Why, yeah but you can't even look at the comments
Speaker 1: man Comments.
Speaker 2: If now you know WHAT i, DO i don't look at.
Speaker 2: MINE i go look at Little dirk's. Comments that makes me, humble,
Speaker 2: right because you can have all the money in the,
Speaker 2: world you can be around all the, killers and they
Speaker 2: still shiit On. Dirk you know WHAT i. Mean if you're,
Speaker 2: female go look At Kim. Kardashian, shit what guy is
Speaker 2: gonna raise their hand, like oh, YEAH i wouldn't fuck.
Speaker 2: It everyone's gonna fuck. Her everybody thinks she's bad for.
Speaker 2: Sure you go look at her. Comments she's getting, dogged,
Speaker 2: bitch you're still.
Speaker 1: Hating, yeah it's almost like it's almost like. That Do
Speaker 1: you also have to understand the type of human being
Speaker 1: that goes out of their way to open their phone
Speaker 1: comment on a stranger's fucking life.
Speaker 2: And then log out and log into the fake pages
Speaker 2: and do the same.
Speaker 1: Ship these are the type of humans that we are
Speaker 1: giving weight, To.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah you can't beat. Them that's why they say
Speaker 2: you can't beat the. Internet, yeah you got people that
Speaker 2: will have ten different accounts and go and like their own.
Speaker 2: Comments for, SURE i can't fuck with. You, YEAH i
Speaker 2: can't worry about that. Ship, yeah you. Know ALL i
Speaker 2: know IS i gotta take care of, me my home,
Speaker 2: base WHAT i got, doing my. Situation or are you.
Speaker 1: At all cognitive of if you put something out that
Speaker 1: might have to do with a let's, say a, beef
Speaker 1: that you are not putting out something that could escalate
Speaker 1: or intensify some tension that might already be.
Speaker 2: There i'm documenting what's already taking. Place i'm not bringing
Speaker 2: anything new to the. Table so if there's a rapper
Speaker 2: who went On live saying fuck you and all your dead,
Speaker 2: homies AND i put it in my video documenting the
Speaker 2: shit that's been, Happening i'm not adding anything. New. Now
Speaker 2: i've had rappers reach out to me unhappy about the.
Speaker 2: Video but the thing, Is i'm going to react how
Speaker 2: you addressed me.
Speaker 1: Right like you, said you had a respectful conversation With island, boys.
Speaker 2: Well one of, them but then it went.
Speaker 1: Left, Dudes, man they're kissing each other for fucking. MONEY
Speaker 1: i don't know what's.
Speaker 2: Get your money in B i had a rapper actually From,
Speaker 2: Jacksonville John. Wall, okay, UH i think that's his. Name
Speaker 2: he said some ship like. That so he he's cool
Speaker 2: WITH K shorty And Julio fullio's. Boys, Right so paperwork
Speaker 2: came out ON K shorty and the Kid John. Wall
Speaker 2: he didn't like THAT i talked about, it so he
Speaker 2: jumped in my D ms on that a ship and
Speaker 2: he was, like, oh why didn't you say anything about
Speaker 2: this other? Rapper though that rapper already admitted this MENTION
Speaker 2: ja do, Breezy, yeah he, said he told when he
Speaker 2: was in high school he was a football. Player what
Speaker 2: the fuck you want me to add on to?
Speaker 1: That you want me to like he exposed. Himself, yeah the.
Speaker 2: Fuck AM i gonna say about? That you? Know but
Speaker 2: the thing, is and this is WHAT i Told John.
Speaker 1: Wall if you got a problem with, him why you
Speaker 1: hitting me up?
Speaker 2: Abouty the fuck you talking to me for you're supposed
Speaker 2: to be a, Gangster well go handle that ship with.
Speaker 2: Him he's the one saying fuck you and your dead
Speaker 2: homies and all that, Shit so go figure out that.
Speaker 2: Situation John wall just got locked up with six other
Speaker 2: people for shooting the fucking three year old in the,
Speaker 2: head whatever the fuck? Happened and Then john told on everybody.
Speaker 1: Did you did you do a video about? Him?
Speaker 2: NAH i might do it after this, interview just to do. It, yeah,
Speaker 2: Right but it ain't that crazy like you drunk the
Speaker 2: I dm about your homietelling that and you snitched because
Speaker 2: y'all just want to kill the fucking. Baby oh.
Speaker 1: MAN i just feel like we have to get to
Speaker 1: a point where BECAUSE i feel like hip hop YouTube
Speaker 1: culture it's it's very AND i feel like what you
Speaker 1: do isn't as like divisive BECAUSE i feel like you're
Speaker 1: just sharing information AND i feel like you do a
Speaker 1: pretty good job but like being like respectful and like you,
Speaker 1: know me and me And jelly talks about that shout
Speaker 1: out to, him but, uh there's all these like FUCKING
Speaker 1: i just feel like there's a very very dark corner
Speaker 1: of like the hip hop YouTube space that is like
Speaker 1: it just, man it just feels like when like like
Speaker 1: When fulio, died it hit. ME i was, like, DAMN
Speaker 1: i was going through them comments bro and that. SHIT
Speaker 1: i was, like like all these people didn't they don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck about. It they didn't stream this dude's.
Speaker 1: Music they were only really invested in the end of the,
Speaker 1: story and that was when he was gonna. Die and
Speaker 1: in the same way with like young In, Ace i'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of people who are, like, well
Speaker 1: fuck young In, ace his get. Back, Obviously i'm not
Speaker 1: trying to speculate that he had anything to do with,
Speaker 1: that BECAUSE i don't think he. Did but but you
Speaker 1: know What i'm, saying, like it's, just, man it's just
Speaker 1: we get to this point where it's, LIKE i don't,
Speaker 1: know Man, Like i've tried to do a better job
Speaker 1: of just making sure like man, like WHATEVER i put
Speaker 1: into the, universe and this shit is like if there
Speaker 1: is some beef shit that happens on my, platform it's
Speaker 1: brought up in a way OR i try to reel
Speaker 1: it in OR i try, to, like you, know do
Speaker 1: my best to instead of talk about the, beef talk about,
Speaker 1: well how do y'all get past? It like if you
Speaker 1: watch My Julio fulio, Interview i'm, like, yo would you ever?
Speaker 1: Squawk like obviously people have, died but, like how do
Speaker 1: we get on the other side of, this because otherwise
Speaker 1: you're gonna die and he's gonna die.
Speaker 2: Yeah lav be doing the same. Thing but the thing,
Speaker 2: is and they know what their career dies when they
Speaker 2: end the.
Speaker 1: Beef because those are the biggest.
Speaker 2: Songs what the fuck are y'all gonna talk? About?
Speaker 1: Right and it sucks too because it's, like but then
Speaker 1: you got a guy Like dirk whose biggest song ever
Speaker 1: literally is like an inspirational record With Ja cole number
Speaker 1: one On. Billboard it's only number one he's ever. Had
Speaker 1: that was his. Song and it's, like, damn pop smoke passes, away,
Speaker 1: Right but Pop smoke's biggest records weren't the drill. Shit
Speaker 1: it was the what you know about love and all
Speaker 1: this other. Shit and it's, like there is a way
Speaker 1: where you could like pivot if your music is. Good
Speaker 1: the problem is is a lot of mouf fuckers do
Speaker 1: this drill ship and they're not really serious about the music. Ship.
Speaker 2: Bro, no they're serious about the.
Speaker 1: Crime.
Speaker 2: Bro they're waiting for a documentary to drop on.
Speaker 1: The right because they feel, like oh, shit that's gonna run,
Speaker 1: it that's gonna run my ship. Up it's, like as
Speaker 1: opposed to being, like, Yo i'm, Living i'm living my,
Speaker 1: Life i'm making the music that reflects that. Life But
Speaker 1: I'm i'm serious about the. Music so you have to
Speaker 1: understand you got to be able to pivot and make.
Speaker 2: Records and that's the thing, is you, know you don't
Speaker 2: really have a lot of rappers right now that's trying
Speaker 2: to like blow up off like trap shit anymore or
Speaker 2: just like. Selling it's all about. Killing it's you know,
Speaker 2: what what's his, Name Belly Gang. Cushington love that, guy
Speaker 2: so he's so. Fired that's like throwback trap music seem
Speaker 2: like jeezy shit fire though it's so.
Speaker 1: Good. Fire my guy just sold out a hundred dollars
Speaker 1: white teas.
Speaker 2: And it's just like with, him it's, like, yeah that's
Speaker 2: that's you don't got to worry about no. Create you
Speaker 2: could play his ship and you know you're not dissing.
Speaker 2: Anybody you can't even play certain people's music if you
Speaker 2: don't know where the fuck you, at you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2: Mean so it's like for me WHEN i cover videos
Speaker 2: and it's killing and this and, THAT i always try
Speaker 2: to end the video saying, something trying to have some
Speaker 2: message behind.
Speaker 1: What like a final thought almost.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i always have that AND i always try to
Speaker 2: give some type of advice to the. Youth or. Whoever, like,
Speaker 2: yeah if you want to follow in these, footsteps understand
Speaker 2: this is what comes with. It that's the point of
Speaker 2: being a risk. Taker you're taking. Risks not everybody's gonna
Speaker 2: hit the lottery and make. It a lot of y'all gonna,
Speaker 2: die a lot of y'all gonna get locked.
Speaker 1: UP i think it's one thing for you to do
Speaker 1: this and have the history and the background you. HAVE
Speaker 1: i think that. There it can get a little icky
Speaker 1: at times when you see like AND i Think Trappler
Speaker 1: roster is like good. Work Like i've watched plenty of his,
Speaker 1: Documentary like recently he's been like dressing up like whoever
Speaker 1: the fuck he's talking, About And i'm, like what are
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 2: FOR i, mean he's just trying to he's trying to
Speaker 2: apply a more creative approach to, things you, know because
Speaker 2: he doesn't have he's not from over, here he has
Speaker 2: no ties to the, streets you. Know so he's literally
Speaker 2: looking at it from the form of being a fan
Speaker 2: and being a creator and just how creative CAN i?
Speaker 2: Get thug just came out saying that he wore the
Speaker 2: dress for basically like the. Promo the promo is gonna
Speaker 2: come with.
Speaker 1: It yeah for the for the, Shock, Well.
Speaker 2: Ross's doing the same.
Speaker 1: Ship, yeah you know WHAT i. MEAN i just think
Speaker 1: it's different if You're Trapploer ross and you're like a
Speaker 1: geeky dude from THE uk and like your entire livelihood
Speaker 1: is based on like documenting you, know black, culture but
Speaker 1: you don't come from that ship like at. All, RIGHT
Speaker 1: i just feel like it's just IT'S i just feel
Speaker 1: like he should be more Mind And i'm gonna up
Speaker 1: talking with him because, uh he's gonna come on the,
Speaker 1: podcast so BUT i just think he needs to do
Speaker 1: a better job and be more mindful and have more
Speaker 1: respect for that, ship you know What i'm, Saying because it's, Like,
Speaker 1: dog you can't do a BIG u interview or a
Speaker 1: BIG u documentary and be wearing a fucking A Seattle
Speaker 1: mariner's hat and a Fucking chargers. Jersey, Dog, LIKE i
Speaker 1: understand what you're trying to. Do but it's like it's
Speaker 1: just it's just like it's, it you. Know for, me
Speaker 1: it's it's just there's certain ship where and then some
Speaker 1: of these guys who you don't know what they look.
Speaker 1: Like you just hear their, voice so you know who
Speaker 1: the fuck these motherfuckers. Are what kind of history they? Got?
Speaker 1: Right you know What i'm, Saying but they're just stirring
Speaker 1: up ship on their.
Speaker 2: YouTube i can understand what you're. Saying i'm not SAYING
Speaker 2: i fully agree with. It but my viewpoint on it,
Speaker 2: is look at. Me. Right you could SAY i have
Speaker 2: whatever type of BACKGROUND i have to mad people that
Speaker 2: ain't good.
Speaker 1: Enough it's not gonna be good enough for first of,
Speaker 1: all for you and me and for any other. Wise
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be good, enough never gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Enough BUT i just mean in terms of LIKE i
Speaker 1: just feel like there's there's this thing where it's, like because.
Speaker 2: Like i'm gonna be. Honest ross went on a. Podcast
Speaker 2: i'm not gonna name the. Podcast vlad try to get
Speaker 2: me in like they hit Up lad on like, yo
Speaker 2: see If jacob come. ON i was, like fuck, mom
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i already know what it's gonna. Be you know
Speaker 2: What i'm. Saying i'm not trying to have a whole
Speaker 2: black panther discussion and WHY i should feel bad That i'm.
Speaker 2: WHITE i don't give a. Fuck so that's gonna be
Speaker 2: the difference between me And ross being on that And
Speaker 2: ross is going to explain his perspective and why he
Speaker 2: feels justified in doing what he's. Doing he's a, fan
Speaker 2: he's a traditional he's a. Fan i'm not gonna explain
Speaker 2: myself like. THAT i don't give a fuck about you,
Speaker 2: him none of. Y'all don't give fuck about your, feelings
Speaker 2: don't funk about your. Opinions i'll give a. Fuck now
Speaker 2: what now.
Speaker 1: What do we?
Speaker 2: Do we might as well not even have the. Conversation
Speaker 2: but you're you're not gonna get what you. Want if
Speaker 2: you don't like me, already then fuck. You i'm not
Speaker 2: gonna like. You so it's, like what are we just
Speaker 2: gonna go in there and fight or?
Speaker 1: Something, Yeah i'm not gonna Go i'm not gonna walk
Speaker 1: into a situation in WHICH i know we're just not
Speaker 1: gonna see already not.
Speaker 2: Welcome but you want me to come on so you
Speaker 2: can have a viral, moment you.
Speaker 1: Know WHAT i? Mean That's i'm not going to serve
Speaker 1: you up a viral.
Speaker 2: MAN i don't give a fuck about your. Opinion you
Speaker 2: don't like, me, COOL i don't know you enough to
Speaker 2: not like. You but if it's fucked, me it's one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent fuck?
Speaker 1: You how how are you, like uh are you mapping
Speaker 1: out like how to build this thing? Out more LIKE
Speaker 1: i could see you. DOING i, MEAN i could see
Speaker 1: you hosting some true crime shiit On. Netflix And i'm, Gonna.
Speaker 2: I'm, Gonna i'm gonna be honest with, you, Right i've
Speaker 2: thought of all of these. THINGS i think WHAT i
Speaker 2: struggle with is. TRUST i don't have a, team.
Speaker 1: So you don't have like a. MANAGER i don't have.
Speaker 2: NOTHING i do everything. MYSELF i record by. MYSELF i
Speaker 2: learned edit by. MYSELF i do all my own ship
Speaker 2: and that's my. Problem that's my biggest flaw IS i
Speaker 2: could probably make way way more ship IF i had a.
Speaker 1: Team so you're recording and editing everything.
Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i learned how to do. EVERYTHING i youtubed how
Speaker 2: to become a YouTuber and turned it INTO APPLOI i,
Speaker 2: mean what over a? Million that's.
Speaker 1: Amazing coolos to, you. BROTHER i got one, Guy it's
Speaker 1: me and one. Guy. Yeah BUT i also Like i'm
Speaker 1: doing you, KNOW i got a fucking radio SHOW i
Speaker 1: do every. DAY i got a lot of shit going.
Speaker 1: On but if, YEAH i MEAN i Also i've produced
Speaker 1: my own podcast for a couple of months. EDIT i
Speaker 1: know how to. EDIT i, know you, know it's it's tedious.
Speaker 2: Work, man it's a bitch to learn how to do.
Speaker 2: It but for, me LIKE i was always an, ARTIST
Speaker 2: i was big on, graffiti, drawing, tattoos all that. Shit
Speaker 2: and the first THING i learned is you don't need
Speaker 2: the most expensive equipment to make. Art so for, editing
Speaker 2: even to this, day ninety nine percent of the editing
Speaker 2: THAT i do is on, iMovie, really the free app
Speaker 2: that comes on every. iPhone ninety nine percent of my
Speaker 2: editing is done on. That and THEN i put it
Speaker 2: on a premiere. Pro WHEN i add the music AND
Speaker 2: i add my name in the corner of the, video that's.
Speaker 1: It because you're just comfortable with.
Speaker 2: IT i learned how To you, know if you give
Speaker 2: a real artist a, pencil they're gonna make some amazing.
Speaker 2: Shit if you give a fucking little kid the most expensive.
Speaker 1: Uh paint brushes and paint and, all.
Speaker 2: It's still gonna come out, Child. Right so THAT'S i
Speaker 2: learned how to make a shitload of money with the
Speaker 2: easiest fucking.
Speaker 1: METHOD i, mean if it's not, BROKE i would, say
Speaker 1: if it's not, broke don't fix. It BUT i feel
Speaker 1: like if you want, to, like.
Speaker 2: IF i want to take it to, that if you
Speaker 2: want to take it.
Speaker 1: To not even necessarily your, channel BECAUSE i feel like
Speaker 1: you could handle your, Channel you've shown. That but if
Speaker 1: you want to like just get other things going outside
Speaker 1: of your, shit, right you gotta you. GOTTA i, mean
Speaker 1: at the very, least you gotta have somebody like an
Speaker 1: advocate trying to get you some of that, Shit like
Speaker 1: you should have A tv, agent you, know just BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i feel.
Speaker 2: Like, AGAIN i feel like a lot of that is
Speaker 2: also part of me having to clean up my. IMAGE
Speaker 2: i need to be in a space WHERE i can present. Myself,
Speaker 2: yeah it's like you, said IF i didn't have the,
Speaker 2: tattoos that look Like i'm fucking telling the, chance, Right
Speaker 2: so IF i can clean up my image and present
Speaker 2: myself in a different, manner because you, know for the,
Speaker 2: LONGEST i was going by six figure felon, right you,
Speaker 2: know BECAUSE i was making six, FIGURES i got five fucking.
Speaker 2: Felonies well Now i'm making more than. That AND i
Speaker 2: don't want to just be known for being a feeling the,
Speaker 2: bullshit you know WHAT i, mean much more than.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah SO i.
Speaker 2: Want TO i want to be able to basically rebrand
Speaker 2: myself at the same. Time that's WHY i wanted to
Speaker 2: get away from the exposing videos because all it does
Speaker 2: is make essentially enemies and if this rapp of WHO
Speaker 2: i expose is tied in with these people that could
Speaker 2: have got me this or what the? Fuck because it
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter who's snitching, anyway no shock.
Speaker 1: Values we've shown that no one gives a. FUCK i
Speaker 1: feel like when you first, started it was a oh,
Speaker 1: shit and that's the.
Speaker 2: Thing it had a, Shock but.
Speaker 1: Now it's, like get everyone. Snitch you got WHY i
Speaker 1: Sell woody? Right who's out here getting a? Bag a
Speaker 1: bag off Stitch? Bro so that shit's dead over.
Speaker 2: With it was cool THAT i was like the one
Speaker 2: that was able, to you, know start that, shit and
Speaker 2: people still to this day, like, oh how how did
Speaker 2: we let him in the hip? Hop anybody let me?
Speaker 2: IN i kicked the fucking door. In that's HOW i got.
Speaker 2: Here But i've established everything, already so now it's just
Speaker 2: a matter of you, know, rebranding, refocusing and finding the next.
Speaker 2: Thing Because i'm gonna be honest with. You WHEN i
Speaker 2: got that plaque for a million, SUBSCRIBERS i didn't.
Speaker 1: Know what to.
Speaker 2: Do like after, that it was like that was my biggest, goal.
Speaker 1: Right because what the next one? Is like ten? Million?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah that's.
Speaker 2: Insane doesn't have, that you.
Speaker 1: Know it's like it's, like, like, dude your kind of
Speaker 1: ship ten? Millions toughladd got ten that's fucking.
Speaker 2: Insane and he's been doing it, forever and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah once you hit that, one you're, like all, right what's?
Speaker 1: Next, yeah that's the.
Speaker 2: Thing AND i was, like what the fuck DO i?
Speaker 2: Do you know WHAT i? Mean that was my biggest.
Speaker 2: GOAL i NEVER i. Graduated, UH i got my gend in.
Speaker 2: Prison they give you a, diploma BUT i never got
Speaker 2: to walk and like accept LIKE i never got to
Speaker 2: do the little hat ship BECAUSE i got released from.
Speaker 2: Prison it WAS i literally passed the test right before my. Release.
Speaker 1: Wow and they.
Speaker 2: Were, like, yo if if you want to walk the
Speaker 2: stage and accept your, diploma you would have to come
Speaker 2: back to the prison as a. Visitor i'm, like, man fuck,
Speaker 2: y'all just give me My i'm not coming back. Here
Speaker 2: fuck you me come back just SO i. CAN i
Speaker 2: don't care about. That SO i got my, diploma piece of.
Speaker 2: Paper it's. Framed and that's the only fucking ACHIEVEMENT i
Speaker 2: have is a piece of paper that SAYS i graduated
Speaker 2: From Appalachi Correctional. Institutions so you got that and your.
Speaker 2: PLAQUE i got, that THEN i got the HONEY k,
Speaker 2: plaque and THEN i got a million subscriber. Plaque so
Speaker 2: ONCE i hit that, Milestone i'm, like all, right, well
Speaker 2: what's another achievement THAT i can work towards Because i'm definitely.
Speaker 1: Are you like, investing like obviously making a lot of?
Speaker 1: Money are you doing? ANYTHING i mean obviously you outside
Speaker 1: of the cars and.
Speaker 2: Put any of that out, there because as many trolls
Speaker 2: AS i, HAVE i don't want people fucking up my.
Speaker 2: Ship you know What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying do you ever fuck with any of the crypto
Speaker 1: that's been tanked by your Boy. Donnie i've been.
Speaker 2: Meeting some new people that are fucking going crazy with
Speaker 2: the crypto and the, trading and you, know you just.
Speaker 1: Haven't had you start a coin.
Speaker 2: Yet i'd Rather i'd rather just know what's about to
Speaker 2: happen before it.
Speaker 1: Happened, no that's what you want to. Know, yeah that's
Speaker 1: how you make the.
Speaker 2: Money get into that. Circle it's fucking. Crazy So i've
Speaker 2: been you, know it's just it's all about connections for,
Speaker 2: sure and meeting, people meeting the right, people and uh,
Speaker 2: Yeah i've been doing a lot of that behind the. Scenes,
Speaker 2: EVENTUALLY i want to get to a point Where i'm
Speaker 2: making more money behind the scenes because experiencing the fame
Speaker 2: aspect of things it. Sucks, yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Honestly that's kind of like for. Me. Man you, Know
Speaker 1: i've Been i've been a public figure for twenty, years you,
Speaker 1: know whether it's on the radio or. Uh and it's like,
Speaker 1: LATELY i, say the last five or six, Years i'm,
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't like. IT i don't want to be
Speaker 1: this shit. FOREVER i DON'T i want to just, LIKE
Speaker 1: i just want to have enough sustainability on my you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i own a. NIGHTCLUB i got a couple of.
Speaker 1: Restaurants like that's the thing that that's WHAT i.
Speaker 2: Want it's cool when you you, know you get in
Speaker 2: the club for free and they give you a bottle or. Whatever,
Speaker 2: yeah but it's like you're trying to pull bitches and it's,
Speaker 2: like oh, Yeah i'm. Popping, Uh like you know What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying this shit's really corny and you don't really want
Speaker 2: to be that guy. Anyways but then you get in
Speaker 2: a relationship, ship you out with your, girl you don't
Speaker 2: want to deal with taking. Pictures. Right you might be
Speaker 2: with a bitch that you don't want nobody know when you're, with,
Speaker 2: right you might be with the, kids, right you don't
Speaker 2: want to deal with. That so it's like that aspect
Speaker 2: of it kind of fucking.
Speaker 1: Sucks but before we, WRAP i want to get your
Speaker 1: take on a few the current things happening in hip.
Speaker 1: HOP i saw today SOMEONE i Think vlad tweeted. This
Speaker 1: maybe might have Been vlad that there's an expectation or
Speaker 1: there's an inside information That didd he might take a
Speaker 1: five year. Plea, yeah did you see?
Speaker 2: THAT i saw. It i'm lad it was. THEN i
Speaker 2: don't know shit about. IT i don't know how true it.
Speaker 2: IS i think he should fucking take, it.
Speaker 1: Right because he's already been in it about a, year, Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah and he's facing it's like an endless amount of.
Speaker 2: Shit They.
Speaker 1: YEAH i THINK i think he's facing at least twenty,
Speaker 1: years right if it gets. Convicted so if it's, five
Speaker 1: is it a state? Fed it's, Fed so he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to do eighty five. Percent, yeah same as, yeah
Speaker 1: so uh, yeah you would take it if you were.
Speaker 1: Him it's just an odds, game, Right like your loyal
Speaker 1: will tell you, like, hey, look if we take this
Speaker 1: and we fight, it there's this.
Speaker 3: Probability this is the, Thing, LIKE i still unless they
Speaker 3: flat out got, proof he's drugging, People, Like i'm kind
Speaker 3: of against the whole you, know you want to fly
Speaker 3: bitches out and they're down the fucking suck and whatever,
Speaker 3: whatever and then everyone just walks.
Speaker 2: Away everyone's an, adult.
Speaker 1: Bro that's so. So so that's the. Thing is the
Speaker 1: Whole diddy thing is like we see the video him
Speaker 1: fucking Up, cassie, obviously that's that's that's, crazy it's, egregious
Speaker 1: IT'S i, MEAN i don't know if that's. Right the
Speaker 1: statute delimitations on that's probably past, Too but that was
Speaker 1: more like a that was like that fucked up his,
Speaker 1: public you, know the the public, opinion the, image the, image,
Speaker 1: Right so, okay that's. Gone but then if we look
Speaker 1: at just the, case is he really drugging people against their?
Speaker 2: Will like the producer that sued, Him, oh he forced
Speaker 2: me to have threesomes with bad?
Speaker 1: Bitches like, that, really, listen most of this shit is
Speaker 1: a cash, grab especially you know with this busby fucking,
Speaker 1: Guy jesus that. Guy and, then like you, said it's
Speaker 1: like if flying women in for sex is against the,
Speaker 1: law everybody in hip hop is.
Speaker 2: Fucked everybody's going.
Speaker 1: Down EVERY nba, player EVERY nfl, player every rock, star every. YouTuber,
Speaker 1: fuck everybody's fucking.
Speaker 2: Cooked, yeah that shit's all because then it's, like all, right,
Speaker 2: well what's the difference between flying somebody out for a
Speaker 2: date and then you end up puking up with?
Speaker 3: Them?
Speaker 2: Right because females lie they. Do so if you fly
Speaker 2: girl out just because you're, interested and she's from bum fuck,
Speaker 2: whatever and you're thinking, like, oh this is a girl
Speaker 2: all the rappers haven't, fucked you, know let me talk to,
Speaker 2: her you fly her, out, whatever you hook up.
Speaker 1: Most of the, girls all the rappers have fucks by the, way.
Speaker 2: Damn and then you know she spends the story, like
Speaker 2: oh he flew me, out just the. Fuck, Mmm NOW
Speaker 2: i got a fed. Case NOW i got a fed.
Speaker 2: Case that's.
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah it feels like it's not illegal to be
Speaker 1: freaky as. Fuck now did he do some illegal? Shit
Speaker 1: i'm sure we'll find, out but it seems as if
Speaker 1: he's just extremely a nasty motherfucker who's into some wild,
Speaker 1: shit which is by all means do your, thing. Buddy
Speaker 1: then the public opinion crashes because that video comes, out
Speaker 1: and then now there's just all this shit and they're, like,
Speaker 1: okay well now we can go get, him because you,
Speaker 1: know fuck forever Did hey was like a beacon of
Speaker 1: light and hip hop where everybody was, LIKE i want
Speaker 1: to be Like. DIDDY i want to BE i want
Speaker 1: to be on My diddy, SHIT i want to have.
Speaker 2: And it would appear that when you reached that, level you're.
Speaker 1: Untouchable Correct if anybody was ever gonna be, untouchable you
Speaker 1: would think it was.
Speaker 2: Him so it's almost like and that's why there's so
Speaker 2: many conspiracy theories as to him coming, down because it's,
Speaker 2: like all, right well who would pow woes that be
Speaker 2: the way of.
Speaker 1: It even THOSE i don't you, KNOW i think a
Speaker 1: lot Of i've seen the conspiracy theory That diddy was
Speaker 1: somehow like it was like An epstein type of. Thing i'm,
Speaker 1: like there's no fucking way.
Speaker 2: NOW i think it's just a frequent money in a
Speaker 2: drug habit and Like the.
Speaker 1: Other thing that's funny is like how the post like
Speaker 1: that you get into some of that Dark twitter shit
Speaker 1: where they'll be, like look at all these celebrities to
Speaker 1: have photos With, diddy they must have raped people, Too
Speaker 1: and it's, like, hey everybody has a photo With, diddy
Speaker 1: and guess what everybody in your entire life would have
Speaker 1: taken a photo With diddy WITH i got a photo With.
Speaker 1: DIDDY i was very excited to take. IT i was,
Speaker 1: like Fucking, diddy let's run.
Speaker 2: The what the Fuck, nely you're not gonna say no what?
Speaker 1: Like and everybody who got an invite To ditty parties,
Speaker 1: went you go Because diddy parties weren't like there was
Speaker 1: like a normal aspect to. Those now what happened at
Speaker 1: five in the. Morning but he had tons of industry. Parties,
Speaker 1: bro everybody in the music industry was. There it wasn't
Speaker 1: didn't mean there body was fucking putting fucking ecstasy up
Speaker 1: their asshole on fucking boys LIKE i don't, know you.
Speaker 2: Know i'll say this, though as far as if the
Speaker 2: five year thing is true and he's facing forever in,
Speaker 2: prison don't get caught Like Tory lanez thinking that it can't.
Speaker 1: Happen, Yeah tory got some bad legal advice Asad rocky.
Speaker 1: Walked THE A sap thing was it looked like a crazy.
Speaker 1: Gamble it paid, Off but damn, man that was bro.
Speaker 2: Going to fucking trial as a fucking parlay. A THE
Speaker 2: A sap thing was. Crazy it's just it's it's at
Speaker 2: the end of the, day it's all a. Gamble and,
Speaker 2: uh he's getting off at five versus. Forever just take the.
Speaker 2: Five but you.
Speaker 1: Did he got an, ego, Man and now is it broken? Down?
Speaker 1: Now is he is he kind of comes and does
Speaker 1: he kind of know, like you know what if they
Speaker 1: really want.
Speaker 2: To because he's not going to go to a crazy.
Speaker 1: Prison, No, no he's. Chilling yeah he's and he'll be
Speaker 1: out three. Years you.
Speaker 2: Know it's still, richest, fuck still. Richest.
Speaker 1: Fuck no one's drinkings to rock. Anymore but but he
Speaker 1: ain't been involved WITH A rock and.
Speaker 2: One BUT i, WOULD i, WOULD i would take that fucking.
Speaker 2: Five what do you?
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel like there's a light at
Speaker 1: the end of the hunnel For dirk to get.
Speaker 2: OUT i don't wanna be that. Guy but WHAT i
Speaker 2: said To vlad WAS i don't think it's a matter
Speaker 2: of if he gets. Out it's if he survives the.
Speaker 2: SENTENCE i think that's the. QUESTION i don't think it's
Speaker 2: a matter of coming. Home, NO i. DON'T i don't
Speaker 2: think he's flat out beating. This the thing, is is
Speaker 2: he gonna be alive when he gets? RELEASED i, BRO
Speaker 2: i just did fucking two back to back videos On dirk.
Speaker 2: Situation they're alleging that he hired hitmen and funded their
Speaker 2: flights From chicago To, cali then got them paid for
Speaker 2: the rentals and the guns for them to go carry
Speaker 2: out a broad day assassination with machine, guns and then
Speaker 2: he tried to flee the country on a private. JET
Speaker 2: i don't give a fuck who it. Is if you
Speaker 2: just hear, that, right it's, like, bro what the? Fuck
Speaker 2: and we're talking about beating the? Case like this is
Speaker 2: how this is some shit that you? Know this is
Speaker 2: like death penalty. Shit, yeah federal death penalty.
Speaker 1: Shit would you ever uh? SOMETHING i think they would
Speaker 1: be dope that you could, do, man BECAUSE i See
Speaker 1: jelly do it all the. Time it's, like go and
Speaker 1: talk to people at. Prisons.
Speaker 2: BRO i reached out to. UH i try to reach
Speaker 2: out to The TAMPA, jubi the juvenile detention center that's
Speaker 2: In West tampa THAT i was actually in BECAUSE.
Speaker 1: I feel like you can go and like, say, hey,
Speaker 1: GUYS i got literally was just.
Speaker 2: Here i'm gonna be honest with, you. RIGHT i don't
Speaker 2: Think i've ever told anyone this like, publicly but one
Speaker 2: of the things THAT i wanted to do was getting
Speaker 2: into the. Interviews and then obviously IF i If i'm
Speaker 2: in contact with a, rapper see if they would be
Speaker 2: willing to go inside of the jails or at least
Speaker 2: the juvenile facilities and speak to the, youth you know
Speaker 2: WHAT i, Mean, like, yeah it's one thing IF i
Speaker 2: go in, there it's more so a thing for me
Speaker 2: of you, KNOW i was in there and Now i'm
Speaker 2: here speaking to. Y'all but If i'm able to bring
Speaker 2: in their favorite rapper in a, facility.
Speaker 1: Be the highlight of their fucking, year their sentence.
Speaker 2: And they're hearing motivational shit Because, juvie, bro you're only
Speaker 2: gonna be in there for twenty one, days so all
Speaker 2: these kids are coming out real, quick.
Speaker 1: And it's almost like if you could get a message to, them.
Speaker 2: IF i can sway you before you come home on some,
Speaker 2: bullshit it.
Speaker 1: Matters maybe we can make something, matters even if you
Speaker 1: could sway one person each, time, bro you.
Speaker 2: Know WHAT i. Mean and then as far as like
Speaker 2: the adult the county jails and this and, THAT i
Speaker 2: would have to have.
Speaker 1: A rapport with the wardens.
Speaker 2: And the sheriffs and everyone. Else and then, again my
Speaker 2: image is a. Factor if they see me in pictures
Speaker 2: with a whole bunch of. Members no one's gonna do.
Speaker 1: That especially Current, yeah not for.
Speaker 2: Sure but now if they See i'm doing positive, things
Speaker 2: and then this is gonna be The the blowback to
Speaker 2: that is IF i organize a fundraiser with The sheriff's
Speaker 2: department that's possibly sponsored by, them and What i'm doing
Speaker 2: is we're speaking out against certain things and we're bringing
Speaker 2: in rappers to speak inside of the jails and. Institutions
Speaker 2: it only furthers the allegations of oh Ten. Nanni jake
Speaker 2: is working with The. Feds that's how he gets all the.
Speaker 1: Paperwork but you can't worry about, That just can't.
Speaker 2: Worry but that's what they try to.
Speaker 1: Do they, Will they're always gonna do that a, FLAW i, know,
Speaker 1: Man but.
Speaker 2: In what you, do that's why. Security that's why rappers
Speaker 2: don't get security because security is too close to the.
Speaker 2: Police and then they'd rather ride with their homies and
Speaker 2: get the ship shot out of.
Speaker 1: Them it's fucking, crazy or just.
Speaker 2: Get caught with guns and end up in.
Speaker 1: Prison, yeah it's like you let the opinion of nobody's
Speaker 1: have you fucked?
Speaker 2: Up they want you in a lose lose.
Speaker 1: Situation, yeah, no you can like like you can never
Speaker 1: do enough for. Fans it's never, enough and not even
Speaker 1: these people aren't, fans by the, way these are just. Commentators,
Speaker 1: yeah they like the.
Speaker 2: Spectacle it's the same fat fuck at the bad that's
Speaker 2: saying that he didn't throw the ball fire.
Speaker 1: Enough that's exactly what it.
Speaker 2: Is or he should have thrown it's the same. Shit
Speaker 2: it's you never did nothing with your, life but you're
Speaker 2: saying that you're.
Speaker 1: Over here shitting On lebron or shitting on Fucking maywell
Speaker 1: whoever the. Fuck yeah that's, true. Man WELL i think
Speaker 1: that'd be, dope, man BECAUSE i feel like that's kind of,
Speaker 1: where you, KNOW i feel like you have a, platform,
Speaker 1: bro and like your history is so, crazy you, know
Speaker 1: AND i feel like you're cognizant of like that that
Speaker 1: age group you were talking, about the juvenile. Shit, yeah
Speaker 1: that's like a real breaking point for a lot of people's.
Speaker 2: Lives, Brother and that's one thing THAT i admire About
Speaker 2: Jelly roll is a lot of the things that he's
Speaker 2: been able to do and just the message that he puts.
Speaker 1: Out, Yeah i've seen. That dude have like the most
Speaker 1: insane busy days and like it's, hey we have to
Speaker 1: do this wherever city we're, in whatever city he goes,
Speaker 1: to he tries like if he's gotten off, there he's
Speaker 1: got the. Time he's always, like, yeah we gotta reach
Speaker 1: out to the, warden try to. Say AND i think
Speaker 1: he's about to. Be he's one step closer from.
Speaker 2: Getting this ship, pardoned, Right, YEAH i saw. That. Bro that's,
Speaker 2: major super, major BECAUSE i ain't gonna. LIE i would
Speaker 2: pay whatever the fuck if they said for a million, dollars.
Speaker 1: Fucking scarlet letter on you if you're felling man. Forever.
Speaker 2: Bro the fact that you get to have gun rights
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 1: Else, again the gun, rights it's, like, bro trying to rent,
Speaker 1: something look a, License you're. Fucked, yeah it's. Crazy well, Listen,
Speaker 1: bro keep killing. IT i love what you. DO i
Speaker 1: look forward to watching you continue to, evolve and and
Speaker 1: and all the new Ship i'm sure you're working. On
Speaker 1: AND i didn't know you had the one man. Shows
Speaker 1: guy's working his ass Off man ten Ninety, Jake thank, you.
Speaker 1: BROTHER i know you're not too. Closet you made a
Speaker 1: little bit of a, drive so thanks for making the, drive,
Speaker 1: Brother Jake boom