1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The most valuable commandity I know of his information. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 3: Did a great ill? Got five dollars? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: This is a raal happy tackle hit one man play. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, that's good 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: you guys a prose best, relentless, refusing to give up. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: All right, hit that horn very less? There, what's up? 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Everybody? 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I'm your host, Chris 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: Raybond of the Action Network. This is our Wide Receiver 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: three Fantasy preview episode for twenty twenty three. Here to 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: break it down with me one of the top fantasy 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: football rankers in the game, the odds maker, Sean Kerner. 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Sean? 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: What's up? Obviously I had to wear my Gay Davis 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: hat for today's pod. But what Jersey rocking today is 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: that I can't tell it. Summer nineteen yep, Johnson. 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: Oh give me the damn ball. 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: It was that era? 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember. That was one of the first 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: like football seasons. I remember watching like every game for 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: a team. I remember seeing every Jets game because it 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: was on. They're all on in New York and that 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: was bad. 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: Was curse part. Wasn't on that team, was he? 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: No, that was a couple years later. That was once 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the marcels Art This was still rich kotside. So this 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: was Adrian Morrell. Adrian Morell was the running back this year. 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: Wayne Corbett, Wayne Corbett. 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all those guys like Webster Slaughter. 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah it was. 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: It was ugly though, But yeah, this is We're gonna 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: talk wide receiver threes, Fantasy Wide Receiver threes, and beyond 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: in this episode. So we'll kind of go through all 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: the guys that were higher on in each tier, you know, 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: the wide receiver three, the receiver four, the Wi Receiver five, 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: and beyond tier. But let me just give the ADP four, 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: the wide receiver three, which is what we're calling the 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: twenty five through thirty six over the last two weeks. 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Drake London Wide receiver twenty five, Deyontay Johnson twenty six, 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: god Win twenty seven, Michael Pittman twenty eight, Christian Kirk 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: twenty nine, Mike Williams thirty, i Uke thirty one, Tyler 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Lockett thirty two, Mike Evans thirty three, Marquise Brown thirty four, 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: Treylon Burks thirty five, and Johan Doatson thirty six. Sean, 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: I'll start with giving a guy you like to beat 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: their ADP in this range. 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: I got to go with the future Hall of Famer 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: Mike Evans here at wide receiver thirty three. I feel 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: like this is ridiculous, and his ADP has definitely dropped 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: since the last time I looked. But and look, I 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: realized it's hard to get too excited about Evans at 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: this point in his career. You know, but he's still 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: only twenty nine. He's going to turn thirty next month, 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: so it's not like he's washed up. Yeah, and you know, 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: going from Tom Brady to Baker Mayfield will obviously hurt, 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: But it's not like Evans hasn't been playing his way 58 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame with you know, suspect quarterback 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: play anyway. You know, he posted wide receiver one numbers 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: back in twenty fourteen with Mike Glennon and Josh McCallan 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: under center, So you know, I don't think the quarterback 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: drop off is going to hurt him too much there. 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: They're still probably going to have to be pretty pass heavy, 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: you know, they might be more involved in some trailing 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: game scripts, so I think the volume will still be there. 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: And one thing about last year was, you know Tom Brady, 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: you know, was getting rid of it really quick at 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: two point four or five seconds per throw, which is 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: by far the fastest the NFL. So that probably hurt 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Evans a little bit, just because you know, Brady wasn't 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: willing to hang in the pocket and wait for the 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: play to develop with you know, Mike Evans downfield, so 73 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: Baker mayfield. You know, he's much more willing to hang 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: in the pocket two point eight two seconds last year, 75 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: and he's willing to throw into tight windows, So it 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: could be a good match for him either way. You know, 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: wider seat thirty three is way too low for Evans, 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: especially in best ball where you don't have to figure 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: out which weeks he's gonna go off. So in this range, 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: I think Mike Evan sticks out for me. 81 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you have him? 82 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: Rank? 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Just curious? 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Twenty six? Oh okay, But again, you know he's not 85 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: gonna be giving you consistent production, so I wouldn't necessarily 86 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: draft him there, especially in redraft, but at thirty three 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: I would obviously, But again, he's better suited for Best 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: Ball just because of the volatility. But either way, like 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: thirty three is way too low. And to be clear, 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: we're using Best Ball ADPs, so you can get him 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: wide receiver three in Best Ball. 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him right. I'm kind of in line 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: with him, just for now. I just I need to see. 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: I mean, if Kyle Trask wins the job, I would that. 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect, you know, Baker, I 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: think at least we'd have some some history. But that's 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: that's kind of why I sitting there. I'm in line 98 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: with him for now. I just think there is kind 99 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: of a concern. But at the same time, this dude 100 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: has never posted fewer than a thousand yards in his 101 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: entire career, so you do kind of have a floor 102 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: that you're working with. And he obviously doesn't miss many 103 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: games either, so't can't hate on that at all. For me, 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: it's Tyler Lockett, you know, I love just guy. I 105 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: feel like every year he gets underdrafted. He's been to 106 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver sixteen or better each of the past five seasons, 107 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: and he put up production pretty much on par with 108 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf last season. So I don't see a big 109 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: reason to fade him right here. I know Smith and 110 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Jig Buzz coming in, and that's a step up for Mark. 111 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: He's Goodwin and d es Gridge and whoever they had 112 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: playing that wide receiver three row last year. 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: But when you have a guy like. 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: Lockett who tend you know, is kind of locked into 115 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: that number two role regardless, you know, usually you see 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: the guys under them are the ones that get their 117 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: target chairs disrupted. So I think the tight end target 118 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: chairs might go down. I think they'll continue not to 119 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: really throw too much to the backs. But either way, 120 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: I think you're you're getting a pretty good floor sail 121 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: on combo here with Tyler Lockett, who has again finishes 122 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: the top sixteen wide receiver in each of the past 123 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: five years. So I really like Tyler Lockey at wide 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: receiver thirty two. I got him wide receiver twenty six. 125 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, you beat me to 126 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: the outline. I think he is the clear value in 127 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: this entire tier. It seems like he's always too cheap 128 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: and this year is no different. So yeah, sign me 129 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: up for Locke at thirty two. Really no question marks 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: this game, and there's a lot of guys in this range, 131 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: I think we could poke holes in, but Locke isn't 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: one of them. I think he's a steal at wide 133 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: receiver thirty two. 134 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think so Marquise Brown at thirty four. 135 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: You know in the games that he's healthy, he could 136 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: he should average a higher finished than that. 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: But you know, there are questions. 138 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: He is a pretty slight guy, you know, so there 139 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: are questions just about how can you stay healthy be 140 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: in that number one wide receiver. But I think he 141 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: has some upside. And Christian Kirk at wide receiver twenty nine. 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: It's interesting because I have him a lot closer to 143 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Ridley as of now as well, so I think he 144 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: could beat that as well. But you know, for the 145 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: most part, I think Lockett is the really the guy 146 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: that sticks out for me. All right, let's we'll talk 147 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: about the guys who were kind of fading at the end, 148 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: you know, go through all the tiers. But let's continue 149 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: and just go to this wide receiver four tiers. So 150 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: that's the you know, the guys in that thirty seven 151 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: to forty eight tier, and those are so you got 152 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: George Pickens at thirty seven, Kadarius Tony thirty eight, Smith 153 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: and the Jiggle at thirty nine, gave Davis at forty 154 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks at forty one, Portland Sutton forty two, Jordan 155 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Adison the rookie in Minnesota is forty three, Rashad Bateman 156 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: forty four, Jamison Williams forty five, Michael Thomas forty six, 157 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Quenton Johnson forty Quentin Johnston excuse me, forty seven, and 158 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: then you got Elijah Moore. 159 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: At forty eight. Who do you like in this tier? 160 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: So I think my favorite wide receiver from this range 161 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: is Jordan Addison wide receiver forty three. I have him 162 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: as my wide receiver thirty six, so I'm a bit higher. 163 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: There's really no weakness to his game. You know, he 164 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: could line up in the slot or outside. He can 165 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: win down field. He is a bit smaller, which is 166 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: why he's getting compared to DeVonta Smith. I know there 167 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: were some concerns about Devanta Smith we entered the league, 168 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: but you know, he's blowing those out of the water. 169 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: So I think being compared to DeVonta Smith is a 170 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: good thing. And the Vikings probably took Addison in the 171 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: first round to become their number two wide receiver. Immediately 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: and sort of replace the Adam Feelen role. And you know, 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: Addison to be fair like, he does profile as a 174 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: solid number two receiver at the NFL level. I don't 175 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: think of him as being some like alpha number one. 176 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: So having to play alongside Justin Jefferson could be a plus. 177 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: You know, defenses are going to have to pay attention 178 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: to Jefferson Hawkinson, so Addison could see a ton of 179 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: open targets this season. I just think he has a 180 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: pretty high floor ceiling up, you know, combo in this 181 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: range where there's a lot of guys in this range 182 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: I am concerned about, but Addison is one of them. 183 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: You know. You know, we haven't seen Addison play as 184 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: snapping the NFL, so I guess that's sort of the concern. 185 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: But either way, I think he has a really high 186 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: floor in this landing spot in Minnesota. 187 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've been talking Addison all offseason and yeah, 188 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: he's a really good route runner, so that should be 189 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: a plus. I'm pretty in align with him for now. 190 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: I just want to see, you know, make sure that everything. 191 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, he has a good camp and he's on 192 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: part to actually be that number two. But yeah, I 193 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: can see him moving up for me. If he does, 194 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: I'll give you one, and I know you got another one, 195 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: so we could close on that one. But I'll go 196 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: with Brandon Cooks out going outside the top forty. I 197 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: think he should be in the mid thirties. I have 198 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: him wide receiver thirty six, and I also have Michael 199 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: Gallup a lot higher than ADP two, who will talk 200 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: about in a bit. But you know, Brandon Cooks is 201 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: still going to be his age thirty season. He's had 202 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: a thousand or more yards and seven of his nine 203 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: seasons up until this point. And you know, back in 204 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: twenty one, Dallas had three top forty eight wide receivers 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: and it could have been even more because Gallup missed 206 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: time that year as well, so it was kind of 207 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: him and Wilson. 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: And they still have three top forty eight guys. So 209 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't I. 210 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: Don't think the floor is too is really much lower 211 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: than this, whereas I think the ceiling is is significantly higher. 212 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: Because Dallas, you know, no dn't shows this year, the 213 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: tight end may not be a big as big of 214 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: a part of the game plan. So I think Dallas 215 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: can easily you know what if any team you know 216 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: outside of I guess Cincinnati can support you know, three 217 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: top forty wide receivers. It's a team like Dallas, and 218 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, Cooks doesn't really have to do much to 219 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: beat his adp here at wide receiver forty two. But 220 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: I think I think he's being overlooked here just because 221 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, had the downs year on Houston, didn't really 222 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: want to be there, also struggle with some injuries. But 223 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: let's not forget like this guy is one of the 224 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: more consistent guys in the league, and just Dallas is 225 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: going to be a massive step up from what he's 226 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: had in Houston these past couple of years. So like 227 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Randon Cooks to bounce back and like them outside this 228 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: top forty here. 229 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have him pretty high too. He's my 230 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty five. It is weird that the public's 231 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: kind of sleeping on him, Like you said, last year 232 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: and Houston it was a down year, but you know 233 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: he's discrentled all season and I question if he was 234 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: giving one hundred and ten percent, we can weak out. 235 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: So you know, I give him a boost because of that. 236 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: But like you said, when it comes to the Cowboys, 237 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 3: you know they're going to be missing Dalton Schultz, and 238 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: I don't think any one of these tight ends will 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: even come close to replicating his you know production, so 240 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: that that's going to be just extra targets for the 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: wide receivers, and Cooks should be, you know, the number 242 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: two receiver, So getting him, you know, outside of the 243 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: top forty seems like a steal. 244 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, And who I know? You like you 245 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: like one other guy in this range? 246 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: Who is it? I'm sticking with my boy Gabe Davis 247 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: here at wide receiver forty. You know everyone, you know, 248 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: they're acting like he was some megabus last year, and well, 249 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: I'll be the first to admit he definitely fell short 250 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: of my expectation last year. He also just wasn't as 251 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: consistent as I would have liked. You know, his ADP 252 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: was wide receiver twenty six, and he finished as the 253 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: wide receiver twenty seven. So I mean, let's be real here. 254 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: He finished pretty close to where he was being drafted, 255 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: and he had a few things just going against him 256 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: last season. You know, he suffered that ankle injury and 257 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: practice after Week one forced him to miss Week two, 258 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: and then he just played through it, you know, which 259 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: was great for our fantasy teams because we want guys 260 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: to play, But he wasn't one hundred percent. In fact, 261 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: he didn't have a full practice again until Week five, 262 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: so he probably really wasn't one hundred percent until after 263 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: the week seven by and then if you remember, Josh 264 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: Allen had that elbow injury in week nine where he 265 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: played through that as well, but he seemed less willing 266 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: to throw down field for a few games after the injury, 267 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: which definitely hurt gave Davis. So there was, you know, 268 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: quite a stretch there where we weren't seeing Pete Davis 269 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: or Josh Allen. So while you're going forward, he's going 270 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: to be pretty inconsistent, just mainly do the fact that 271 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 3: he operates as you know, a downfield threat. But you 272 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: can get him outside the top thirty six right now, 273 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: and in fact, you get outside the top forty. So 274 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: I like the value we're getting on him as being 275 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: you know, the number two target and one of the 276 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: best offenses in football. So I think he's a great 277 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: investment in best ball at wide receiver forty. Like starting 278 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: my bench in redraft leagues with him, and you know, 279 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: again he's another player with DeAndre Hopkins signing with the 280 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: Titans gives us clarity on a player like Gave Davis, 281 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: where we don't think, oh, you know, DeAndre Hopkins might 282 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: land there and we have to move him way down 283 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: our board. Right now, it looks like Gave Davis will 284 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: be entering this season as the bills number two wide receiver. 285 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 286 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's back up to my wide receiver thirty two. 287 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: So nice, all right with you? I do agree. I 288 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: think there will be some inconsistency there, and that's why 289 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: we kind of talked last part about you know, really 290 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: trying to get you know, not just two, but three 291 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: wide receivers before that top twenty four is out. I 292 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: think you can afford to wait on running back a 293 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: lot more this year. I think there's just not as 294 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: much of a tear drop, you know, as you go 295 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: through these you know, first six, seven, eight rounds at 296 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: running back as there is at wide receivers. So yeah, 297 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: I think Davis still, you know, should play at most 298 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: of the snaps. He's still their best blocking wide receiver, 299 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: was in on ninety three percent of the routes per 300 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: game and in games that he played last year, so 301 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: I think you should see more of the same and 302 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: Buffalo should go to more of a you know, they'll 303 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: probably play more two tight end looks, but that shouldn't 304 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: affect Diggs or Davis and anywhere that would just affect 305 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: you know, the Peosha, Kiir, Deontay Hardy, those guys. So yeah, 306 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: like like Gabe Davis as well. All right, let's jump 307 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: to the guys outside the top forty eight. 308 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Who do you like in that range? 309 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: So I'm going with one guy here and it's Van 310 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: Jefferson at wide receiver sixty eight. And to be cleared, 311 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two was a lost season for Van Jefferson. 312 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,359 Speaker 3: You know, he had multiple knee surgeries in the offseason. 313 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: Wasn't able to even make his season debut until week eight, 314 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: and they really babied him. You know, he eased into 315 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: action and he only played three games with Matthew Stafford 316 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: last year. However, you know, weeks twelve through eighteen, once 317 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: he was culture one hundred percent, he averaged a ninety 318 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: eight percent routes run rate, managed to post the wide 319 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: receiver forty two score over the final seven games. Now, granted, 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: you know Cooper Cup was out, but you know he 321 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: was playing with John Wolford and Baker Mayfield on her center, 322 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: so it was a pretty big drop off at quarterback. 323 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: He scored that game winning touchdown when we were at 324 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: that Thursday night game against the Raiders. But yeah, heading 325 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: into the season, you know, he should be a lot 326 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: to be the number two receiver again this year while 327 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: the others kind of battle over who's going to be 328 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: the number three. So he should be the number three 329 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: target and a pass heavy offense who should be involved 330 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: in way more trailing game scripts this year as the 331 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: defense is really falling apart. So he was the wide 332 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: receiver thirty five and twenty twenty one, so we already 333 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: know he has wide receiver three upside when he's healthy 334 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: in this offense. He's playing the final year on his 335 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: rookie contract, so you know, I expect him to be 336 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: very focused on increasing his own stock. So he seems 337 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: like an absolute steal in this wide receiver sixty eight range. 338 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: A lot of these other guys they kind of need 339 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: an injury or something to really hit, but with Ben Jefferson, 340 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: he just needs to do his thing, stay healthy and 341 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: he could you know, eke out wide receiver three kind 342 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: of flex value at times, So I think he's by 343 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: far the biggest steal in this range. 344 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, there's actually I like quite a few 345 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: guys in that in that range. And I think the 346 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: last tier we talked about that, you know, that wide 347 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: receiver four tier thirty seven to forty eight. That's the 348 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: tier I don't really like many many of the guys. 349 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: That's the tier where I'm kind of, you know, us 350 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: going to use that pick on quarterback or running back 351 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: or even a tight end if I don't have one. 352 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: But you know, once it starts, even and I still see, 353 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: you know, a few guys here that should, you know, 354 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: just based on playing time alone, should beat these ADPs, 355 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: and I think Jefferson's one of them. And I've gotten 356 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: a lot of him in a Best Ball especially because 357 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: I do think he's one of those, you know, kind 358 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: of downfield receivers that we are kind of hard to predict, 359 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: but the numbers should be there at the end of 360 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: the year. Another one of those guys, Michael Gallup. You know, 361 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: he's wide receiver sixty five right now. He was a 362 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: top fifty wide receiver in points per game in twenty 363 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: twenty and twenty twenty one, and before that ACL injury 364 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: he averaged fifteen yards of catch, eight a little over 365 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: eight yards of target, and about fifty three yards per game. 366 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: And then after the ACL injury last year, his yards 367 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: per catch went from fifteen down to ten point nine, 368 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: his yards per target dropped two and a half yards 369 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: from eight point three to five point seven, and his 370 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: yards per game from fifty three to thirty. So I 371 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: think now that he's another year removed from that ACL injury, 372 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: he will be a top three receiver here in Dallas. 373 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: There's no Dalton Schultz. 374 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: I think he is even more undervalued than Brandon Cooks. 375 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have him Wide receiver fifty five, and 376 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: that's just assuming the Cowboys are a little bit more 377 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: run heavy this year in a frustrating way. But yeah, 378 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: wide receiver sixty five is a joke, just because you know, 379 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz is leaving behind a ton of targets that 380 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: these other tight ends won't be able to, you know, 381 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: pick up. So guy like Gallup should be a beast 382 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: this year. And you know he's probably gonna Liane up 383 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: more on the slot. Right with Cooks there see more 384 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: easier thro as, I should say, whereas last year he's 385 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: more of just a deep threat and pretty inconsistent, but 386 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: heading in the season hundred percent healthy and could be 387 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: at times the number two target in this offense. Yeah, 388 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: I love him here as well. 389 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the coaches are talking about he was running too 390 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: many go rountess last year. 391 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so I agree. 392 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know, if he gets away from some 393 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: of those low percentag dress it should make them more consistent. 394 00:18:59,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Though. 395 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, Gallas easily a guy I see him. He 396 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: has like wide receiver three upsides, so oh yeah, I 397 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: think he's way undervalue another guy in Nico Collins, and 398 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: it's more of an upside bet. But I think he's 399 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: the best bet to Weed Houston in receiving. You know, 400 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: he's still just twenty four in year three, twenty two 401 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: percent targets per route last season, so that's pretty good 402 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: and six four two fifteen. I think he's also the 403 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: most likely Texan receiver to you know, get the touchdowns. 404 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if there'll be a ton of them 405 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 2: with see they stroud in year one, but I do 406 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: think they'll be more competitive. I don't think they're trying 407 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: to tank anymore. They're in a pretty weak division and 408 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, Mechi is you know, he missed his entire 409 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: rookie year so and Robert Woods just kind of passed 410 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: his prime. So I think Collins still has a good 411 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: bet to lead this team in receiving, so I like 412 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: taking a shot at him at wide receiver fifty nine. 413 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: What do you think of Nico? 414 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean I loved them last year as 415 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: probably once again, probably a year or two early, so 416 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: I'll let you take him here. But yeah, I love 417 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: the upside, especially with you know CJ. Stroud, who is 418 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: really just more of a pocket passer. He's not going 419 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: to be scrambling that much, so I think the guy 420 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: like Nico could benefit And this is going to turn 421 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: into the Dalton Schultz pod, I think. But you know, 422 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz is probably the favorite to be the number 423 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: one target in this offense. But again, I wouldn't be 424 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: surprised if it ends up being Nico. Collins. I think 425 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: has a ton of upside, especially in the red zone. 426 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: Like I think he maybe not this year I bet 427 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: for ten plus touchdowns, but he does have that kind 428 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: of physique and playing style. So yeah, I think he's 429 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: a solid play this this late in the draft. 430 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple more Romeo Doves and Alec Pierce, 431 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: both the year two guys. You know, Dobbs, I just 432 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: think he's going to be locked into a pretty big 433 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: role in Green Bay as that number two receiver. He 434 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: averaged a target on twenty one percent of his routes 435 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: last year, so that's above average. And then Alec Pierce, 436 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: you know, going in a year too. The offense should 437 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: be more vertical under Shane Steichen and well, I yeah, 438 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: if Richardson is the quarterback, obviously, I don't think the 439 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: volume pass volume will be there for the team. I'd 440 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: rather take a shot on Pierce at wide receiver sixty 441 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 2: six than Michael Pittman, who's still going inside the top thirty, 442 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: because you know, these these year two guys tend to 443 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: take a step forward, so I think they could be 444 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more equal than people expect. 445 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: And you know, this coatch pass the game. 446 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Not really investing too much, but I think Pierce is 447 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: a little bit intriguing here going outside the top sixty 448 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: at wide receiver. Another guy who should be playing kind 449 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: of like Dobbs, you know, probably's going to play, you know, 450 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: eighty five to ninety percent of the snaps every game 451 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: as that wide receiver too, and he thoughts on either 452 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: of those guys. 453 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I love the Pierce call because you know, 454 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: I think Pittman's going too high, especially you know, if 455 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: Anthony and Richardson starts, you know, ten plus games this year, 456 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: which I think he will, but you know, a guy 457 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: like Pierce, he could offer value this late. Because Richardson 458 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: does have a big arm, he could rut deep and 459 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: you know there's a chance Gardner Minshew ends up starting 460 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: five or more games this year for whatever reason, you know, injury. 461 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: Richardson is ready. In that scenario, I mean, Pierce is 462 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: even more valuable because Minshe's gonna throw it more you 463 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: can throw downfield. So I think Pierce has some sneaky 464 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: upside just in terms that you know, Minshew might end 465 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 3: up starting more games than we think right now. So 466 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: there's a lot of paths at least for Pierce to 467 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: hit at wide receiver sixty six. 468 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: All right, what about guys we are fading anyone from 469 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: you know, the wide receiver three tier on that you're 470 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: just not really touching at ADP that you think is 471 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: not going to beat it. 472 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys that's stuck out immediately were the last 473 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: two on the wide receiver tier when you read them off, 474 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: trailing Brooks and Johan Dotson. Trailing Brooks is pretty obvious. 475 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 3: You know, the Titans just landed DeAndre Hopkins, so his 476 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: value takes it hit. It'll probably take a week or 477 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: two for ADP to catch up, but I'm guessing he'll 478 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: be in the mid forties now. Still has a ton 479 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: of upside, but you know, that's a massive hit for 480 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: Traylon Burks. Johan Dotson. I love the talent, but you know, 481 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: his rookie season was really fueled by touchdowns, so I 482 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: think he's due for aggression there. Plus, he's just in 483 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: a run heavy offense with Sam Howell likely under center, 484 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: and we were kind of talking about how good Terry 485 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: McLaurin is and how much the offense holds him back. 486 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: So I just don't see John Dotson really overcoming that 487 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: to draft him as a wide receiver. Three. Kadarius Tony. 488 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: While I love the upside, he could just never stay healthy. 489 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: So I'm not completely avoiding him, but I don't want 490 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: to go overboard because you know, he's just way too 491 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: risky at this point for me. And then the biggest 492 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: fade for me, is still Jamison Williams, you know, being 493 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: ranked like he was playing to start the season. He's not. 494 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: He's suspended the first six games, so it's gonna be 495 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: really tough for him to hit ADP. I will be 496 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: drafting him next year, hopefully he's going into the season 497 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: neither hurt nor suspended. I love the talent, but just 498 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: heading into the season where there are still some question 499 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: marks on how evolved he'll be, and the fact that 500 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: he suspended six games means I am not really drafting 501 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: him at all. Where he's going right now? 502 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, James and Williams, I mean that's the top guy. 503 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: There's no way you get Brandon Cooks right there. 504 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: I know exactly Like you can pretty much get Brandon 505 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Cooks in the same spot. 506 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: Like I have James and Williams factoring in the miss games, 507 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: I have him as my wide receiver. 508 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: Ninety four. Its I don't know how people are getting 509 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: to forty six. 510 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: I'm sixty four and I thought that was ridiculous. 511 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, because I have so we don't know, Like last 512 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: year he was like the number four or five receiver. 513 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Now could he be the number Could he be the 514 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: number two this year? 515 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: Yes? 516 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: But that's not a guarantee, like they might continue using 517 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: him as a situational deep there, especially since he's now 518 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: missed you know, his last like he's essentially missing like 519 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: the beginning of the season the last two years, so 520 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: it's not like he's had a ton of time to developed. 521 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I still don't have him just like 522 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: locked in as that wide receiver too. You know, there 523 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: are some risks there, and I hate fading guys, you know, 524 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: year two guys. I think they usually take a week, 525 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: but it's just there's just almost for I just don't 526 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: see any way for him really to find his way 527 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: to anything close to that ADP. So yeah, James Williams 528 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: is the big one for me. Totally agree with Kadarius Tony. 529 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: I just don't see him staying healthy. And even if 530 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: he does, I mean I don't think he's a guy 531 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: that plays, you know, every snap like an usual like 532 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: a number a number one wide receiver typically does. And 533 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 2: I don't even know if he'll be the number one. 534 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I know we heard some buzz and camp 535 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 2: about it, but realistically, I don't think they believe that 536 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: they can play this guy for you know, upwards of 537 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the snaps per game, So I. 538 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: Think it'll be a committee. 539 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: He'll and he'll have some uh, you know, some big games, 540 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: but I'll also have some duds. So wide receiver thirty 541 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: eight I think is way too rich. And then one 542 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: more going going backwards, Deontay Johnson at wide receiver twenty six. 543 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Not a big fan of there either. 544 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: You know, we've heard Pittsburgh and Matt Canta to say, uh, 545 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: you know, we're trying to be a conservative offense. 546 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: You know, we're not really trying to. 547 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: Throw the ball a ton, and I think you are 548 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: going to see an improvement from George Pickens entering year two. 549 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: So and like I said, you know, I think we 550 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: talked about this on another pot, but I don't. I 551 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 2: just don't know if we can kind of look at 552 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Deontay as that same guy he was with Big Ben 553 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: necessarily because it's a it is a little bit of 554 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: a different situation now with with Kenny Picky here. 555 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: So I just see a lot of downside with Beyonce. 556 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: I do think he'll rebound in a touchdown category a 557 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: little bit, but you know, when when he's going ahead 558 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: of guys like Tyra Lockett, Brandon, I you, Mike Evans, like, 559 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: I just don't think he should be going above those guys. 560 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: So Deontay is another guy that I really don't want 561 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: to touch at ADP now. But if he drops, you know, 562 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: six seven spots, maybe I think it'll be more in line. 563 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: But as of now, he's still you know, he's still 564 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: little too high for me. Uh at twenty six, going 565 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: just one spot behind the Drake London. I think there's 566 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: a bigger gap there. 567 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: So you have Pickens ranked ahead of Deontay right now. 568 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: No, but I have them a little quote sir close. 569 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both in the mid thirties, Like I think 570 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: pickkets thirty seven and Deontay's like thirty three or something 571 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: like that. So it's just I have Deontay kind of 572 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: at the more towards the end of that wide receiver 573 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: three tier, whereas ADP has them a little more towards 574 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: the top. 575 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Part of it. 576 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, just a little concerned about about about 577 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: his production this year. 578 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: All right? 579 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: That is going to do it for our wide receiver 580 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: number three pod here on the Fantasy Flex. 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