WEBVTT - 3 Ways to Learn to Regulate Your Emotions in Stressful Times & Approaching Disagreements with Respect and Positivity in Your Relationship

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, I'm so excited because we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, Burning in Hell is a mental health comedy podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a lot of hilarious comedians on. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of insightful people, but we've never had

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<v Speaker 2>a man who was a monk, and he's been everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>and now he's finally, you know, hit the top. He's

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<v Speaker 2>come to burning in hell, he's found the mecca of

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<v Speaker 2>mental health. Welcome Jay Sheddy to the pot.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>that I get to be with you today. Honestly, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have very good energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you because you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I thought I might be intimidated by you,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's all knowing, he's also very famous. There's like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that could be intimidating, but you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you have a very warm, warm energy that.

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<v Speaker 1>Means the world to me. That's that's the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>I could have had Today's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I'm like, do people just like him because

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<v Speaker 2>he has blue eyes? Or is he actually you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you are on this book tour and you

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<v Speaker 2>sent it to me The Eight Rules of Love and

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<v Speaker 2>you're married, yes, which I kind of love because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like dating you know, people out there

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<v Speaker 2>and they've like never had a relationship before. But I

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<v Speaker 2>like that your book is not only like your teachings

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<v Speaker 2>and your research over the years, but you also say

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more about yourself. So what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to bring into this podcast today, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you have so much amazing knowledge everywhere, is to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know you a little more, get to know your

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<v Speaker 2>hell a little bit and that you've been through. Why

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<v Speaker 2>have I not been asked to become a monk yet? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you get into the monk ship? How did

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<v Speaker 2>you get in? Because no one's I'm not on the

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<v Speaker 2>email list?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah you didn't. You didn't get the memo. No

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. You subscribed, Yeah no, I didn't swipe up,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no. And it's and for me it was the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I met a monk for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Gouranga Das. I met him when I was

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen years old, and I met him because you still

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to events to meet people because there

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<v Speaker 1>was no YouTube podcasts, you know, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a while ago, and so I would go to events.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love hearing from CEOs and athletes and musicians about

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<v Speaker 1>their rags to riches stories. And I wasn't fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>the rags and the riches. I was fascinated by what

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<v Speaker 1>you're fascinated about here, like people's challenges and their mindset

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<v Speaker 1>and how they got there. And one night my friend

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, hey, we should go and hear this

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<v Speaker 1>monk speak. And I said to them, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I going to learn from a monk? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by people who've gone from nothing to something, not

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to nothing, like what am I going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from this guy? And they said, no, we should go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, okay, I'll only go if we go

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<v Speaker 1>to a bar afterwards. Like that was my negotiation tactic,

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<v Speaker 1>so to prove how spiritual I am. Yes, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was like as an eighteen year old, and my

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<v Speaker 1>friends were highly convincing. They said, yeah, sure, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go to a bar afterwards. And so I went

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<v Speaker 1>to this event and I went there with very low expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going to walk in, walk out,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to hit up this bar. And I walked

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<v Speaker 1>there and I found something I wasn't looking for. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't looking for spirituality, I wasn't looking for meditation, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't looking for well being. And the way this monk spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how serving others with your skills

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<v Speaker 1>is the purpose of human life, using your gifts to

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<v Speaker 1>impact and help other people is what we're meant to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd never heard that before. So eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>me stayed behind wanted to shake his hand, like meet him.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up traveling with him that whole week in London,

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<v Speaker 1>going to all his events. Then I spent all my

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<v Speaker 1>summer vacations and Christmas vacations traveling to India to live

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<v Speaker 1>with him in the monastery. And then when I graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>I lived as a monk for three years. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very long journey of spending time with

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<v Speaker 1>this one monk, to then spending time with the monks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then actually living as a monk. Holy Sorry, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the quick version.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was that was beautiful. Oh and were you

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<v Speaker 2>in where were you based when you weren't in.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hours outside of Mumbai? And then we traveled across

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<v Speaker 1>Europe as well, so we'd live it different.

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<v Speaker 2>And where were you living when you were like with

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<v Speaker 2>your friends and stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was in London, So I went to

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<v Speaker 1>university London Town, from London, from corner, raised in London. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cool. And I also feel like you've transcended like

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<v Speaker 2>traditional what we think it is, which is honestly like

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<v Speaker 2>not relatable, and you've put it in this such like

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<v Speaker 2>like even your book, like you talk about boys and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and it's the kind of stuff that we information

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<v Speaker 2>that we could retain. So you kind of have figured

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<v Speaker 2>out how to talk about love. But what did you

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a monk? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're not, definitely not. So you're like a ce

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<v Speaker 1>celibate and you don't talk too well for me the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite sex, but you don't talk to the sex that

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<v Speaker 1>you're attracted to. So I'm completely living a celibate life.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't spoken to a woman for those three years.

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<v Speaker 1>And the point isn't repression of suppression. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>to redirect your energy. And I always like to clarify

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<v Speaker 1>that because a lot of people think that monks think like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh women are bad or this, and it's not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a side of can I dedicate my mind

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<v Speaker 1>to mastering my mind? Like can I focus on that?

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<v Speaker 2>We do like really hot showers, so people think we're

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<v Speaker 2>connected as Satan sometimes as well men.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, oh yeah, I got it. We did cold

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<v Speaker 1>showers and months for that music there you got.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they do say the cold shower thing like

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<v Speaker 2>gets your mind, right, but I'm like, I'm like, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>The original that we were taking cold showers, like that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was a normal part of life, and and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just what I found that I got from

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<v Speaker 1>that experience is from age fourteen, which is when I

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<v Speaker 1>started dating, to age twenty one, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>ever had a gap between seeing someone or meeting someone

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<v Speaker 1>withing with someone, Like, yeah, your teen years, you're like

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<v Speaker 1>constantly moving relationship to relationship to relationship, and those three

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<v Speaker 1>years and if you think about it, even for yourself

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<v Speaker 1>maybe anyone who's listening, how many days have you actually

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<v Speaker 1>spent not in the pursuit of someone or not being

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<v Speaker 1>pursued by someone in your entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a drug.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's very littal, it's so mental, so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I always say, like I'm a creative genius as

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<v Speaker 2>an I give me anyone and in my head, I

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<v Speaker 2>will make up something that I want, like put them

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<v Speaker 2>on any pedestal. Because having your crushes like it gives

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<v Speaker 2>you a purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it gives you a purpose, like waking.

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<v Speaker 2>Up in the morning is easier when you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope I run into Jeremy at the cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, I ran into my first crush. I

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<v Speaker 1>still remember I was like eleven years old. How old

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<v Speaker 1>were you when you had your first crush?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was desertive from a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Yeah, it took me to eleven. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>the late bloomer by your standard. But I remember having

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<v Speaker 1>this crush and every guy in school had a crush

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<v Speaker 1>on this girl. And I was overweight growing up. I

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<v Speaker 1>was also pretty much one of the only Indians in

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<v Speaker 1>my whole class, and so I got bullied a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for both of those things. And so I remember turning

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<v Speaker 1>up to school late one day and everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>class was laughing at me and pointing and giggling, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do they know? And then I

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<v Speaker 1>got a little slip from one of my friends and

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<v Speaker 1>I opened it up when you used to send notes

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<v Speaker 1>in class when you can text, And I opened it

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<v Speaker 1>up and it said she knows, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows what? And so basically everyone in class had

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<v Speaker 1>told the one girl that everyone had a crush on,

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<v Speaker 1>that only I had a crush on her. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for the less rest of the day, all the girls

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<v Speaker 1>stood behind like the playground in class and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>shouting like you're not in her league, She's out of

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<v Speaker 1>your league. It was terrible. So that was my first experence.

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<v Speaker 1>Was very traumatizing. It's very traumatizing. But so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a drug for me. It was, Yeah, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad drug exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a thin line between like the joy it

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<v Speaker 2>could bring you and the pain. And I do like

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<v Speaker 2>in your book that you talk about not only just

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<v Speaker 2>the joy, but like the joys of being alone, the

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<v Speaker 2>joys of a breakup, that there are positivities in it

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<v Speaker 2>is your book, how much is a gender based like

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of if you're a woman or a guy

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<v Speaker 2>reading it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried to take gender out of it because

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel that a lot of what we're experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>today is a complete mixture of experiences. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you could say, well, this is the same experience that

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<v Speaker 1>old women have. Yeah, Like, I just don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case anymore. Like I have so many more of

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<v Speaker 1>my female friends that are like the breadwin is in

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship now and they're leading the way, or they're

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<v Speaker 1>more driven and ambitious than some of their partners. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the stereotypes are all Yeah, they're all blood. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I was trying to write a book that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could pick up in this generation and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>whether I'm looking for love with, whether I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hold onto it, or whether someone just broke up with

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<v Speaker 1>me and hurt me, this book's going to help that person.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love about this book and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>might have said it on Call Her Daddy, Okay a girl, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>we love is you were like, there's so much stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that are not taught to us in school, and it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like you almost had whatever education you had and

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<v Speaker 2>then thought this wasn't enough for me. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>have gone into your own studies and research and experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could have a j shuddy like high school,

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<v Speaker 2>what classes do you think are essential to living a

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<v Speaker 2>fulfilled life?

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<v Speaker 1>It is such a good and honestly a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Too deep, and you know, well, I'm trying to challenge you.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it funny, Yeah, I'm trying to challenge you.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of us should not start a high school, including me, Like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let's just put it out there. Starting

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<v Speaker 1>a high school or a primary school, I sorry, element

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<v Speaker 1>school as you call it here is such a deep

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<v Speaker 1>important task that no one should just start schools. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's highly dangerous. And so even what I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to say, it's caveatd with the fact that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think even I know enough at this point to start

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<v Speaker 1>a school. I think that's unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but if you were like ire on a townhall meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>can we add these classes? Yeah, this is our town meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, my biggest class would be emotional regulation.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be the number one class. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I say that, and it comes back to the Book

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<v Speaker 1>of Solitude, is that it's said that our heartbeats and

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<v Speaker 1>our heart rates they synchronize when we're close to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so first our caregivers, whether it's your mother or

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<v Speaker 1>your father, your uncle or your aunt, whoever took care

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<v Speaker 1>of you, your heartbeat and your heart rate synchronizes with theirs.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the study says that the best thing for

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<v Speaker 1>your nervous system is another human being, but the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing for your nervous system is another human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that sounds like a pyramid scheme, and I hate

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<v Speaker 2>that life has done this to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so what I find is that your heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate gets SYNCD up to your partners where you're now

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<v Speaker 1>sharing a mood. And so if you don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to self regulate, if you don't have to regulate your

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<v Speaker 1>own emotions, you're just going to become dependent on whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you're around. And that's why codependency takes off because we

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<v Speaker 1>never learned to regulate our own emotions. So that's class

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<v Speaker 1>number one.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you grew up with a parent who also

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<v Speaker 2>had trouble, then you could be anxious like they are,

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<v Speaker 2>anxious based on things that are out of your control.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and that's class number two. Healing from parents and

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<v Speaker 1>healing from first loves, because whether it's your parents who,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's the first guy or girl or person you dated,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those first love experiences completely transform what you

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<v Speaker 1>want in a relationship. Maybe the first person you dated

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<v Speaker 1>like made you insecure about how you look. Now anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that tells you look good is like the next attractive

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<v Speaker 1>human beings.

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<v Speaker 2>When that person was projecting their own down to.

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<v Speaker 1>You exactly exactly. And the person who's being complimentary to you,

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<v Speaker 1>they may not even deeply like you. They may like

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<v Speaker 1>you only for that. And so I think unraveling the

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<v Speaker 1>gifts and gaps as I put in the book that

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<v Speaker 1>our parents get is class number two.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to call it reparenting. Yeah, where it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the voices in your head are those negative

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<v Speaker 2>things where you can say, actually, how would I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have spoken to my inner child? What's the third class?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm allowed another one? Yeah, all right, okay, class

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<v Speaker 1>number three. Class number three would have.

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<v Speaker 2>To be do you think meditation should be on it?

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<v Speaker 1>I was Actually I would put meditation there. I might

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<v Speaker 1>add that as a tool in emotional regulation. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tool and a practice.

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<v Speaker 2>True.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's an after school program. Yeah, that's regular.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're smart, you get signed up. Yeah. No. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one that I'd add is financial master and financial training.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that no one has any clue about

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<v Speaker 1>how much they should spend on rent, whether you should

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<v Speaker 1>get a mortgage or not, should you buy a house

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<v Speaker 1>or not, should you save up for one? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>save or do you invest? What do you invest in?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know? Like, I think we have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Until you're like thirty four and someone goes, why haven't

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<v Speaker 2>you been putting this into an And you're like, is

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<v Speaker 2>that a STD?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is an IRA? So that is so true. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually I grew up from a family of teachers, Like

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<v Speaker 2>my grandpa was a gym teacher, my mom was a principal,

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<v Speaker 2>my grandma was a librarian, and they I think about

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<v Speaker 2>teaching a lot, and I just think there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>holes because I was a people pleaser, and I always

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<v Speaker 2>I was a perfectionist. I just wanted straight a's. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't like consuming it. I was just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>win the game and then I would forget it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I entered life and it didn't matter that it's

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<v Speaker 2>straight a's. I was battling, you know, my perfectionism, anxiety depression,

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<v Speaker 2>performing so that I feel lovable. Look at this a

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<v Speaker 2>turn to a therapy session, but that's what it always does.

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<v Speaker 2>And within yourself, how is your levels of anxiety depression?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you deal with a cocktail of them? What is

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<v Speaker 2>your journey with that been?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I really rebelled growing up against

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<v Speaker 1>what my parents or what my community wanted me to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of started dealing with that early on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had the anxiety almost as a young teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my parents wanted me to be good at maths

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<v Speaker 1>and sciences, yes, and while I was okay at those,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what I wanted to do. What I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do was philosophy, aren't design psychology Economics was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that, And so those are the subjects

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<v Speaker 1>I loved, and so I started rebelling early on, saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do what I want and pushing for

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. When you're thirteen fourteen years old, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of creates this really interesting place because now you're

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<v Speaker 1>on your own because now it's like, well, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>only person doing that. Everyone's kind of following the trend.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I feel like that was it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest when you talk about depression of anxiety, the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>part where I experienced that was just before I went

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<v Speaker 1>to become a monk and when I came back. So

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<v Speaker 1>I experienced it before I went anxiety because everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>my community was telling me, you've been brainwashed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're wasting your time, No one's ever going to marry you,

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<v Speaker 1>You're never going to make any more money again. Like

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<v Speaker 1>imagine everyone in your community and your family extended family

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<v Speaker 1>going at you and just telling you that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst decision of your life. And you've just turned

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<v Speaker 1>down your job and have decided to make this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there was a lot of anxiety attached to

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<v Speaker 1>the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>But it takes a real strong, like inner voice to

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<v Speaker 2>go against what you're Like you think your parents are

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<v Speaker 2>God's growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So where did that come from? For you to think?

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<v Speaker 2>I know and they don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel my inner voice was so loud since I

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<v Speaker 1>was fourteen and I could not ignore it. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been so and I feel like it's got louder

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<v Speaker 1>or stayed steady because I've listened to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't live the kind of life you live

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<v Speaker 2>like following rules. Yes, because you have a very unorthodox career.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you're kind of like a superstar in like

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't even want to say spiritual, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like this the self help community. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>do you ever get like hate from more like traditional

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<v Speaker 2>monks or spiritual people because you are so on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet and putting your face out there and making money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this because they're kind of transcending traditional I think.

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<v Speaker 1>There's definitely a perspective around like, you know, is this

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, watered down or is it being put

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<v Speaker 1>out there in a way. But I think that overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I find that the people who really know me, or

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<v Speaker 1>are the people that I've gotten to know deeply, they

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<v Speaker 1>understand that I love the idea of making things simple, accessible, digestible,

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<v Speaker 1>relevant like me. That's how I was taught about this wisdom,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what made it so it has to be demystified.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like, look at me, I have it, HD. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not reading a book, yeah, but I will stop at

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<v Speaker 2>a clip of you where you're looking, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have the cool font and maybe some good music

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<v Speaker 2>in the back, and it's fifteen s.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of us, and that's most of us today.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a smart like marketing brain of yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't think we should be looking down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like, oh, you're getting the watered down version. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this beautiful statement by a writer named Ivan Pavlov

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<v Speaker 1>where he said that, well, he wrote this story. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not writer, but he wrote this statement that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said that if you can't explain something simply,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't understand it well enough. Me. I'm constantly like

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<v Speaker 1>grappling with ideas, going how do I explain this simply, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I make this really accessible for myself because

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<v Speaker 1>then I can live it and for others so they

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<v Speaker 1>can live it. Like to me, that's a sort of compassion,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's empathy. Like to me, compassion and empathy is like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I make this so easy for anyone to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>because then I'll be able to live it and change

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<v Speaker 1>my life and they'll be able to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even in your book you reference, is it Sands

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<v Speaker 2>grat Y.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so I've liked the book.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she scammed, but like I loved like when

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about karma, and like as someone who loves yoga,

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<v Speaker 2>like I see these things kind of connecting. What is

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<v Speaker 2>your current religion?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have taken different practices from different traditions that

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<v Speaker 1>I find fascinating. Overall, I follow a text called the Vaders,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a universal text which doesn't have a religion

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<v Speaker 1>or particular spiritual path aligned to it. It's just speaking

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<v Speaker 1>universally about practices like meditation and wisdom and knowledge. And

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<v Speaker 1>so for me, I practice three different forms of meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>breath work, visualization, and mantra, which is the repetition of

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<v Speaker 1>sacred sound A lot of what I practice is inspired

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<v Speaker 1>out of India because that was the tradition I lived

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<v Speaker 1>in as a monk, and so to me. But I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>having said that, you know, I've loved pretty much every

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual text I've picked up. I tell and read stories

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<v Speaker 1>from so many different traditions. I consider myself a practitioner,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a citizen of the world when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to culture and spirituality because I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>can genuinely learn from any part and any tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why your book is interesting to me about love,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like you've had so many different cultural experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>So to write a universal book was that hard at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I mean, like how Americans view sex versus like

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<v Speaker 2>how like the Middle East view sex, or the Brits

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, the Chinese. Who knows, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of globalize that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm always trying to put ancient wisdom together

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<v Speaker 1>with modern science pop culture, right, So, yeah, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like my world and that's me too. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>love movies, I love monks, and I love media and

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<v Speaker 1>marketing like I love all of that, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just embracing all of those worlds that I live in

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<v Speaker 1>and putting them all together, and to me, there's such

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful synergy in harmony that comes from that. So

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<v Speaker 1>if something was true five thousand years ago, and if

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<v Speaker 1>science proves it today, and if you can see it

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<v Speaker 1>in mainstream media, then there's chances that it universally exists.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to me, I'm trying to create things that

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<v Speaker 1>are timely and timeless because to me, something that's timeless

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<v Speaker 1>is always timely. So I'm not trying to be so

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<v Speaker 1>in the now that it's a trend and it won't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. I would hope that someone could pick up

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<v Speaker 1>this book in ten twenty years and it would still

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<v Speaker 1>hold true. Yes, some of the examples of phones and

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<v Speaker 1>names may change, but the wisdom or the thought behind

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<v Speaker 1>the book will make sense because a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas are five thousand years old, but science is proving

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<v Speaker 1>them today. And so that's kind of like the cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>that I like to put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love a cocktail. Are you sober?

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<v Speaker 1>I should have said them up?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you still right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yeah, I'm not. I don't know how everyone defines

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<v Speaker 1>that word. So, yeah, I don't drink alcohol, huh, but

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<v Speaker 1>I only ever was a social drinker or a games drinker.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I drank the most. And my friends they

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<v Speaker 1>me and my friends would play too many. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>all started drinking very early. Yeah, I drink here like

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen and fourteen years old. Yeah, and we played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of drinking games. Ring of Fire was my personal favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just yeah, we just drank our way to

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<v Speaker 1>quitting early because it just yeah, I just got into

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<v Speaker 1>it so young. But yes, I don't drink anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any insights on like hook up culture.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of girls are in their twenties, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a lot of people talk about like energies

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<v Speaker 2>of like a quick hookup versus like you have to

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<v Speaker 2>wait five dates before you have sex. What's your theory

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<v Speaker 2>on the exchange of like physicalness in this world?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, correctly. I think it depends on what you want

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<v Speaker 1>and what you're looking for. Like to me, if someone's

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<v Speaker 1>just exploring and enjoying and expressing themselves, that's awesome. If

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<v Speaker 1>someone's trying to build something serious and want something to

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<v Speaker 1>last long term, I think there's a different tactic and

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<v Speaker 1>a different approach, and ultimately anything can kind of end

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<v Speaker 1>up anywhere because of how it evolves and grows. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest mistake people make is they think

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<v Speaker 1>there are set guidelines yes, as to how it should

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<v Speaker 1>be done.

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<v Speaker 2>You see it all over the place, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make sense because yeah, like you just said, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's like, oh, don't have sex still date five, or

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<v Speaker 1>don't have sex still date twenty, or don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all those kind of things actually just make

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<v Speaker 1>you focus on that even more and they stop you

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<v Speaker 1>from focusing on everything else you should be looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, if you're putting your energy towards that, are

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<v Speaker 2>you really being your authentic self totally? Or are you like,

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<v Speaker 2>have a little checkbook and me and you both know

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<v Speaker 2>if you just look at a checkbook or a list,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not authentic love. That's not intimacy, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would go on to say this, and again

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<v Speaker 1>I'm diving too the science here. If I get too dorky,

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<v Speaker 1>you can let me know, nice, But it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So chemistry that we feel with someone of a spark

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<v Speaker 1>is described as experiencing stress and excitement at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the excitement of I just got her number,

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<v Speaker 1>but the stresses is she going to text me right,

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<v Speaker 1>or the excitement is oh my god, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>he just text me. The stress is, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I text back? Right? So chemistry is actually

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<v Speaker 1>us feeling excitement and stress at the same time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to know someone, the stress drops because

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<v Speaker 1>you've become more comfortable with them. Now we think the

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<v Speaker 1>excitement's gone, but it hasn't it You've become more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with them in a healthy way. So the interesting about sex,

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<v Speaker 1>getting on back to that topic, is that all the

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<v Speaker 1>studies show that when oxytocin is released during and after sex,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel closer, but you're not actually emotionally closer. And

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<v Speaker 1>the chemical oxytocin also has a temporary memory block, which

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<v Speaker 1>means if you just had a massive argument about how

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<v Speaker 1>you don't trust that person, now that that chemical is

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<v Speaker 1>released like crazy, they're amazing. I love them. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting, and that's where I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these ideas about delaying sex come from. What I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they do. I mean, if they don't, then that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the only reason is that you don't make as

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<v Speaker 1>good a decision about someone when you're in that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of illusion of we're so close that actually it's a

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<v Speaker 1>chemical reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really looked into this stuff because I was

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by like, why do we feel close? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why so many people have makeup sex or break up

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<v Speaker 1>sex and then get back together back yes, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of like, oh no, no, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>really close. We don't have any problems. There's a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>memory block going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love what you said about like the connection

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<v Speaker 2>of fear and sometimes getting that combined with like excitement,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you lose that fear, you think like

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<v Speaker 2>am I not excited about this person anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I learned that, like, love has so many different meanings,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like i'd argue when you ask someone what

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<v Speaker 2>does love mean? You'll get tons of different answers based

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<v Speaker 2>on different people. But I just got married in May.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're married, thank you. And there is that

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of like comfort that you could never feel within

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<v Speaker 2>like the first month or two. But it's a different

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<v Speaker 2>kind of high, of like a stability and a safeness

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding that I don't think we talk about a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I think if you're looking for chemistry, you

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<v Speaker 1>should change who you see every month or every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have you heard the birth control drama?

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<v Speaker 1>No tell me people are saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That birth control sometimes people get off birth control and

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<v Speaker 2>be attracted to different men really because of the different hormones.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because your hormones changing, that your attractions could be different.

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<v Speaker 1>So what so what changes? I'm fascinated.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't read full paragraphs. I get sent,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm a skimmer. But it is something of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that like love and attraction is like scientific in

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<v Speaker 2>your brain, and it can be hormonal or like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when you get pregnant and you hate your husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of my friends have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you stop brea? In my direction? What I also

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<v Speaker 2>liked is you delved into how to like fight? Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think we talk about that ever.

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we never do, because I think it's an art form.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kung fu it is, or it's MMA it's or

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrestling or it's something. Yes, and not knowing whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're MMA or whether you're wrestling or whether you're kung

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<v Speaker 1>fu is where the issue comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think in my relationship, once I understood them

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<v Speaker 2>more and learned not to take things personally, it really

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<v Speaker 2>helps because sometimes they'll say something and you're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't even understand me, and then you realize, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you know. His father spoke to him. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all he knows. And and then you decide do I

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<v Speaker 2>want to deal with this?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's never had the chance to even reflect on

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<v Speaker 1>that because he may not be aware, or she may not,

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<v Speaker 1>or they may not be aware. I think so many

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<v Speaker 1>of us. If you've done a bit of work, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it. But the problem is when you've done

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of self work, you start judging everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And she want to avoid that because it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy way to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Should got a therapist, Oh you go to therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>At My therapist told me, yes, you my dad can

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<v Speaker 1>be of your dad. Yeah, like in the playground, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. It's like my dad would take out

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<v Speaker 1>your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But the therapist knows what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually, But John John and Julie Gotman, who have been

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<v Speaker 1>married for god knows how many years, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing study called the Gotman Institute, which looks at

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<v Speaker 1>all of this amazing research, and they found that the

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing that keeps couples together is not date nights.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not walks on the beach. It's not dinners, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not movie nights, it's not holidays. It's learning how to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I saw that, I was like, wow, Like

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<v Speaker 1>learning how to fight is a skill, it's an art

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<v Speaker 1>form and kind of like what you just said about

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<v Speaker 1>taking things personally. So when me and my wife first

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<v Speaker 1>started dating and when we got married in where we'd

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<v Speaker 1>first argue, I want to talk about it now and

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out right now. That's the kind of fighter

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<v Speaker 1>I am, right, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Men could be very logical like, well, APUs bleaks, so

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm very much like that. Yeah, and I call

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that in the book venting. It's like I want to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out now, and I want to do it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife is what I call a hider. She wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go into a room. She wants to like not

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me. She wants to think about it, she

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>wants to reflect on it, she wants to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning of our relationship, I took that personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, wait, you don't care as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I do. So I'm standing right here and you'll work.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to fix it. You're giving up.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and then only to realize that that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>she dealt with it, because when she came back sometimes

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>two days later there's a bit of a waiting outside,

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>but like two days later when she came back, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, she was actually in the place to

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<v Speaker 1>process it. And so what we found is you need

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>two days, I need one hour. Like now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to meet in twelve hours a day, like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>meet in the middle and figure it out. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the third fight star I explain is exploding where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to talk about my emotions right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not trying to fix it, you're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to solve it, but you need to be heard. Neither

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<v Speaker 1>of these is good or bad. It's recognizing that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all different and we all deal with stress and conflict differently. Yes,

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>And if you saw your partner for just a style,

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<v Speaker 1>like you were like, that's this.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.919
<v Speaker 2>That is so smart. I actually my husband and I

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<v Speaker 2>once he like, upset me with something and I said

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>that upset me. I want you to apologize, and he

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>basically was like, you're overreacting. I'm not apologizing. So we

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 2>sat there, and we just started dying laughing because like

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>we were looking at it based on our styles, where

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're being stubborn and I'm being triggered

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and you're and we instead of fighting about the actual

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>thing was very stupid me instead were like, Okay, how

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>do we long term fix this? Because I'm like I

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 2>just want to hear you say sorry, and he's like, well,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to admit to something I don't think

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I did wrong. And the next thing you know, you're like, oh,

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.239
<v Speaker 2>we are working on this long term relationship. I think

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 2>relationships are just do you want to talk to this

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<v Speaker 2>person for the rest of your life?

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And can you navigate that conversation, which is like what

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, It's not about the fancy, extravagant vacations, It's

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>about are you on the couch? And can you tolerate

0:28:58.840 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>basic conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>I can you solve problems together? And do you want

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to grow together? I read this research that kind of

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>goes exactly with what you just said. It was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that if you want to consider someone a casual friend,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to spend forty hours with them. If you

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>want to consider someone a good friend, you have to

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>spend one hundred quality hours with them. And if you

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>want to consider someone a great friend or a best friend,

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to spend two hundred hours with them of

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>deep time. And so when I think about being with someone,

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>or if you think about having a future with someone,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like, do I want to spend two hundred deep

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>quality hours getting to know this person is a great

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>way of knowing whether there's longevity here.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think nowadays we don't think like that. We're like,

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>if I post him on Instagram? Are the girl he's

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna love it? Do you look at esthetically? And I

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>learned from an I feel like everyone has that one

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>relationship where you're with the person that society tells you

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>should be with. I always I have. I'm a stand

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>up comedian, and I joke about Disney and how Disney

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>like who we should be attracted to. Like, as a

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>young girl, it's like there's that one prince on a

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>horse with a stupid hairdoo and he's probably a narcissist,

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and he takes up all the space in the room,

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, that's the one everyone wants me to marry.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And then you find that guy and he makes me

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>feel horrible and you're unfulfilled and you're shelly yourself. And

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>then you're like, wait, I don't even have anything in

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 2>common with this man. And just because you know so

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and so thinks it's cool you're dating a guy on

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the football team or something, and I think we all

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have to overcome it's almost like an ego death with relationship.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>How did you realize your wife was the kind of

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>person that you could spend the rest of your life with?

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<v Speaker 1>Deep?

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<v Speaker 2>Question, Deep, she's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, exactly. So I was attracted to from the

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>first moment I saw her. So that was easy that part.

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.479
<v Speaker 1>That part was already taken care of. If you asked her,

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>she'd be like, eh, she wasn't. She wasn't.

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like guys are pretty black and white with that,

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>like they're either like I want to be with.

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Her, yeah, And then getting to know her, I think

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I just found that she just made me laugh, like

0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is hilarious, She's adorable, she's she does funniest stuff.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>That makes me so happy that you say that.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like she ask any of my team and

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>she's like that with everyone. It's not like she's just

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>like that with me, it's like that's just who she is,

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and she radiates this like pure joy and anyone who's

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>ever around it. It's almost like people become friends with

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>me and they're like, oh, Jay, I really like you,

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and then they meet my wife and it's like, who's Jay.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that happens every time.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Like that is even in a relationship where like you're

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>with someone and you're like, don't say that thing. We're

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>like you're you're you can tolerate them alone, But then

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in a circle you're like, oh, I just think he's tall,

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>but socially he's I actually don't like how he deals

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 2>with people. So to be proud of how your partner

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>exists in the world is huge.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just jealous of her because she just feals

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>my friends. But no, I think she's very I think

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the thing about I love about my wife the most

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>is I think she really knows me deeply m and

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>she accepts me for all that I am, almost cause

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 1>all my mistake. So I feel like I've showed her

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>as time's gone on, more and more of myself. And

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel that I've ever felt judged, criticized, or

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>not been given compassion and grace at any of those points.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's why I love her, because

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I know that whether we had anything or didn't have anything,

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I know that she'd be right there. Yeah, she's been

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>with me since day one as well.

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 2>So as a monk, there's not a lot of monks

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>who have become famous, and you are putting yourself out there.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>You're putting all of your teachings and thoughts into the

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>world to be judged. Do you have any ever, there's

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>so much fame going on nowadays. Do you have any

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>insight of how you deal with the public eye in

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>a peaceful way.

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great question. And obviously I always say, like,

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a monk anymore. So I teach from my

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>practice that I lived as a monk for three years,

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but now I'm married, I'm a business person and I

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 1>have a podcast, in books and everything else, and so

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest things for me and how I

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>deal with the public eye is I am very open

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and at the same time I understand what needs to

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>be get private and confidential. So I don't believe in

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>living a life where everything's on show and everything's for display.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I think there are so many experiences that are more

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>beautiful when they are truly between two people or a

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>friend and a family member, whatever it may be. Like,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't live in a world where everything needs to

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>be out there. At the same time, I love being

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable and authentic and open with my community and my audience.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>But certain things could be really tainted in the wrong

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 2>way when you just do it for attention or the

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 2>public eye grasp on to it.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so I feel like I try

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to create their healthy balance between what's truly for me

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and what is it that I want to share. I'm

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>always thinking about what I'm sharing. I'm like, how does

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>this add value to someone's life? A vanity shot of

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>me is not going to add life, yes, But and

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>so I'm always trying to think, like, how does how

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>does this really impact someone? How? How will this make

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>someone's day better? That's what I think about a lot.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>And I also made peace with it, with the idea

0:33:53.680 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that there is truth in people's commentary on some thing,

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's also sting. Yes, And your job as a

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>content creator, as an author, as a whatever you may be,

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>is to figure that out, is to take the feedback

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is to extract the parts that can help you and

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>leave the rest. So it's almost like leave the sting

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and take the feedback, And so you're almost extracting the

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>poison from the process. And there's a lot of good

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>out there that can help you. There's a lot of

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>even what you'd put as hate that could be very useful.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I found. I mean, I'm going very deep here, but

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I think we've been kind of oscillating in a good

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>way between deep and silly, which is fine. The idea

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>that I find that fame being imperfect in the fact

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that it comes with a lot of judgment or criticism

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is what detaches you from fame, which is what keeps

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you humble, grounded, and also protects you from your inevitable

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>irrelevance one day. And so I think you can get

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>so attached and fixated to fame, and if fame didn't

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>have those stings, then you'd think fame was the best

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>thing in the world, and you would think that it's

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the most amazing. In toxic, you.

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Would lose touch with reality, which is that you're a

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>human exactly.

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>And I just had and obviously what to speak of myself, Well,

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I just had Kevin Hart on the podcast, and he

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was talking about this exact thing where, like his fame,

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he felt he was indestructible. At this point, he felt

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that nothing could get at him. And he was like,

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>fame let him down, Like he was the same people

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that were and.

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>That's when the world's like, oh, you're ready to get

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 2>directly shown reality again.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so he was saying that when he was

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>popping the people that were popping bottles in the club

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>with the same people that turned on him. And so,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that that, to me is that's

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>why we get these little reminders, and so I take

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>them as a little reminded. Fame is imperfect. Fame is

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>not the goal of life. It's wonderful, it's great, but

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it isn't everything.

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>That's so powerful. Because I wanted to hear from your

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 2>perspective as someone who's like lived a life that was

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 2>so anti that, do you have any advice for social

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>media usage? Also, because you both of us live our

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 2>lives on social media. We make money from social media.

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>We spread our life, try spread laughter and say and

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>wisdom and wisdom a ton of wisdom. Do you how

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>do you monitor social media and living?

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think that it's it's really interesting when you've

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>come from a world like for three years, I didn't

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>know who the Prime Minister of England was. I didn't

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>know who won the World.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Cup, and I sot.

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so I've come for you know, that was

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, and I left the monastery ten

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Those three years I had no access.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like Big Brother, but less drama.

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's an interesting way.

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I want a monk reality. It's just done like this.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like that the whole time. Like we

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>just don't move like your your teachers at midnight, turning

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at midnight to see something and nothing's changed the same.

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>But but but I find that for me, like social

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>media is something that I have to I have to

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>be very intentional unconscious. Yes, so I always make sure

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that it's not the first thing I see every morning.

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>So study show we have sixty to eighty thousand thoughts

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>per day. Now, if I asked you to control sixty

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to eighty thousand thoughts, you couldn't. It's impossible. And eighty

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>percent of those are negative and repetitive. And so most

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>of us are saying the same negative thing like you

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror in the morning, you go, I'm ugly,

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Why I don't look great today? Get to lunchtime, you

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>look at your phone selfie, oh god, I still look

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the same. Right, You're like repeating a thought again and

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>again and again. It's like comfortable, exactly, and it's relatable

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and its familiar. And so what I say to people

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>is make sure that you choose intentionally your first thought

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>of the day and your last thought of the day.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>You can control two thoughts per day, and so my

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>first thought of the day, I don't want it to

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>be based on news, negativity, notifications, or noise, which is

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>what my phone's gonna give me if I pick it

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>up first thing in the morning. Yes, So, even if

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you can create a seven minute gap between when you

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.439
<v Speaker 1>wake up and picking up your phone, a five minute

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>gap to brush your teeth and like just get to

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that point of having a shower, Like, even if you

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>can just do that, get there, because I promise you

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>it's going to give your time, your mind time to

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>warm up. And one of the things I often mention

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>is that waking up and looking at a phone is

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>like letting a hundred people walk into your bedroom in

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>the morning before you've got up. You would never let

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>one hundred.

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 2>People walk literal nightmare.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Literal nightmare. You'd be like, wait my makeup. You'd be like,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>oh wait a minute, let me just put on some clothes.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, oh wait, let me whatever.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Also like I don't want to know how everyone is doing,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I can't take in all that energy.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Come on, you just need to get your energy right.

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But when you pick up your phone, that's what it is.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.720
<v Speaker 1>A hundred people just walked into the bedroom of your mind.

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>And now you've set yourself up to be reactive to

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>all their needs, all their requests, and so I find

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>giving yourself that gap. So for me, one thing is

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>giving myself that gap. The second thing is I consider

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>myself to be fairly present if I'm at lunch or

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>dinner and me and my wife had a rule that

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>we set a while ago in the home, which was

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>no technology homes and no technology times. Sorry let me

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>tell you again, no technology zones and no technology times.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>So for example, the dining table and the bedroom are

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>no technology zones. Oh wow, because I'd rather eat with

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you and I'd rather sleep with you. I don't want

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to be like you know, in this in between, yes,

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and then no technology times like after nine pm, let's

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>not be on our phones, you know, before we finish

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>our meditation in the morning, which is something we do together,

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna look at our phones. And so I

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>find that, even and we're not perfect, we break those

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>rules all the time, Like, yes, do I have my

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:15.479
<v Speaker 1>phone out?

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 2>You guys are wild?

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, like ten thirty pm, I'm on

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>my phone. Oh my god. But you know, I'm not

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>saying we follow those rules perfectly. But even having those yeah,

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>just sets better barriers and boundaries. But I think the

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing is, please create a five to seven minute

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>gap between waking up and looking at your phone, because

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 1>your phone's just gonna bombard you with negativity, noise, notifications,

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and news. And now you start your day on a

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>minus four and your whole day you're just climbing up

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the ladder trying to get back to zero. Yes, when

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>you could have set yourself up.

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like immediately getting a punch in the gut

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>that you're kind of doing to yourself because you didn't

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>have to look at the phone. I'm talking to myself

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 2>as I look at my phone. Wait, Okay, we're gonna

0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 2>get a little darker. We're gonna play a final game.

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 2>But actually I've added this new question that I think

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>is fun. What is like your version of hell?

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I think to know that everyone you loved had

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like a terminal illness or like, you know, like everyone

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>everyone you loved is like to disappear in the same way,

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>like if everyone of your family was traveling on a

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>plane and then you never saw them again. Like to me, like,

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the worst thing that could happen, because you you know,

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>even with the you know you, yeah, that would be

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that would be hell.

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Because I just watched The Last of Us? Is that

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 2>what it's called The Last of Us on HBO? It's

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 2>the Oh my god, it's so good. I highly recommend,

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's very apocalyptic, right, fun guy anyway.

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>But did you mean more like casually hell? That was

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.479
<v Speaker 1>that was a strong word.

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>The first time I've ever asked this. On this part,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like a new thing. I'm throwing it. It's deep.

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, yeah, you see what people like immediately

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>go to of like what they value and what they

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 2>don't want to lose. Time to play The Seven Deadly sins. Okay, yes,

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>what are you greedy about?

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? What am I greedy about? I'm gonna ask my

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:09.760
<v Speaker 1>team in a second.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>But and it could be something physical, and it could

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<v Speaker 2>be something emotional.

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, greedy, which I've had to work on a lot.

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Is sugar. I love greedy about good chocolate, Like I'm addicted.

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, before I met my wife. So yeah, chocolates.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>She gets you onto like the dark.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>No, my wife's kept me away from the darkness because

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>she's like extremely focused on chocolate. Just get me away

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>from dark and old chocolates. But yeah, probably chocolates.

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I looked at her page. I mean she

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 2>looks very healthy and knowledgeable. Who are you envious of?

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh that is such a good question. Okay, who am

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I envious of? No, I'm gonna be honest. I'm envious

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>if Christiano Ronaldo because I think he's amazing. I'm gonna

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>be straight up, if I could have been a football player,

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I was never gonna He deals with a lot. He does.

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.959
<v Speaker 1>And that's what you realize, right, Like, even the people

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you look up to the most are dealing with so much.

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, he deals with way too much more,

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and I mean.

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 2>That's why I came up with the concept of burning

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and hell, because I started to meet these people I

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>looked up to, and then you start to realize everyone's

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>living through their own Eveyone was thinking, like, why did

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Lebron like Lebron James? Is he that much happier than

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>all of us? And then I realize, like, everyone has

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 2>the card they're dealt and their own experience, and he

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't doesn't have some like karmic thing that made him

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 2>like his hell is as painful as our health. It

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 2>just might be in a mansion.

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. And and the thing with Christiana Ronaudo is

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't and I'm obviously I'm half joking, but I

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's I think he inspires me. And sometimes I

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>look at envy as not that I want what they

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>have or what he has. It's almost like that's what

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I aspire.

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>For, and he's great in something.

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>He me by his mindset. He inspires me by his dedication,

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like his hair. I wanna his hair. I mean maybe

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I could. I could. I think my head is good,

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>but I think I think for me, it's more like

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I aspire in so many ways to carry that spirit

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>for what he does for his love, that I can

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>do that for my love. So that's what I mean

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>by any.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Did you manifest this life for yourself?

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow? I would say that when I started, I

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>had no idea that it would ever get to this

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>point and stage.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say, no, I love because I didn't really

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>ever believe that this many people would care about well being, mindfulness, meditation, health.

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm so grateful and humbled every day. Did I

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>get to live this life?

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I love that because I almost think that if you

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 2>manifested like I want to be, like have millions and

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>mints of followers on Instagram, you wouldn't have gotten there.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>You manifested I want to fully understand these teachings and

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>be able to teach people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think what I manifested was I want to

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>do what I love every day, and what I love

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 1>is learning, teaching, sharing, experimenting, and living. And I'm going

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to find a way to make that relevant, accessible and

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>helpful to people and practical to people.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And that you love the journey of it absolutely And

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 2>if you don't love the journey, you're not going to

0:43:59.120 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 2>get anyway.

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely powerful. He's a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh my God, thank you. When was the last

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 2>time you experienced extreme wrath or anger?

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a really tough one. Oh gosh, I so

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I've never been. I grew up in a house where

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of anger, and so I very

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>early on was like, yeah, I'm not going to be angry.

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>And even when I met my wife, we were like,

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 1>we're never going to raise our voices. Even if we argue,

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.240
<v Speaker 1>even if we fight, it's never abusive, it's never So

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>anger is like a rare, rare, rare emotion for me,

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like irritable, Yes, from.

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 2>A man, that's powerful because I feel like a lot of.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Men well, because my dad scared me when he was angry, right, Like,

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you've seen anger at like it's peak

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and extreme, you don't want to go near that. So

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I really can't. And that's not me being instance.

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I just genuinely cannot remember the last time I was angry.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh I can, but it wasn't wrath. It wasn't Rath's

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>being half silly again. Yeah, when my wife for my

0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>birthday brought me a tablet that was an ass, not

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>an iPad. Right, Ass's no offense to aces, but when

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I said I wanted an iPad, it had to be

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>an iPad, but it was not.

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 2>It was an ass you just threw it across the room.

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, it wasn't. I was still polite. I

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, I was like, you got me an asis.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, really like an asis?

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Can you?

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And she was like no, but my.

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, are we also Android users?

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Now? She was like, my family told me it's like

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>really good technologically, and it's.

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Like better, Like, well, your family hates me.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, your family doesn't know I wanted

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>an iPad. I honestly can't remember the last one.

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I was angry, but that's it's also the fact that

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>you meditate every day is probably very helpful. Yes, yeah,

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 2>because I joke that a lot of men whenever they

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 2>experience anything besides anger, they like don't know what to do.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 2>So it's nice to have men feeling other emotions than

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.919
<v Speaker 2>just immediately making it like the most masculine.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think doing certain things that can express

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>emotions that are healthy. I mean, I played a lot

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of rugby going on, and I feel like as a

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>young man, if you did have any anger or frustration,

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like you had an outlet whereas welcome to be physical

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and so like even today, if it's like I know

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of my friends, like we'll lift or do

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>tough workouts, or we'll go on a hike or like

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 1>something that's challenging is often where you can channel that anger. Yeah,

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And I find like, if you don't channel your anger

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>towards something that's challenging, you take it out and someone

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you care about. And I think that's what hurts me

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the most is that the people that matter to us

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>most get the worst of us, and the people that

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>we say that are first in our lives get the

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>worst of us. And I would never want that to

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>be the case. And I don't want to live in

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>a world where I just treat my wife with anger

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and then i'm I'm sorry, I didn't mean it. And

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I think once you've said something you don't mean, no,

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.479
<v Speaker 1>it never goes from someone's memory. It's always there. Yeah,

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I just I kind of take that very

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>seriously that I don't want to say something that I

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>don't truly believe.

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was a tennis player, and I definitely think

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like hitting a ball, well, like I would just go out.

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>On the ball the ball doesn't have feelings. Just go

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>for it.

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a physical regimen too, Like do you

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 2>do yoga or you run or what do you do.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>For I've olcoated between a bunch of things. Right now.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>It's hiking every day, Wow, every single day for about

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>an hour. It's really beautiful. I love it. Also gives

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>me the sunlight in the morning, gets my circadian rhythm moving. Yes,

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>there's enough of an incline where it's challenging. It's it's

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>great cardiovascular health. I played tennis during the pandemic.

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>That was really fun. But I realized when you take

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>up a sport when you're older, you're good while you're practicing.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't play for a year. I am terrible. So

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, I could play some

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>tournaments now. And then I didn't play for a year,

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm.

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, tennis is so like skill and timing and so.

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 1>But I loved it. So I played tennis. I've broke it.

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been sometimes I'll be at the gym, sometimes I'll

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>be hiking, sometimes I'll be playing tennis. I'll mix it up.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 2>It's good. I mean, I live a similar life to

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you and where like sometimes you're touring, sometimes you're on

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the road. So sometimes I have trouble with that like

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>consistency that I used to have as a kid when

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like just training. But it is important to

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 2>move your body.

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>It is so important speaking.

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Of when was the last time you were a sloth?

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 2>So like had like a real lazy day.

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh, probably like last weekend or maybe yeah, yeah, maybe

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weekends ago. I try and have a sloth.

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I try to have a sloth evening once a week

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>where I could like order all the food that my

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>wife would never condone. Hell yeah, go all out when

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>she's not around.

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 2>What's you like guilty pleasure? Like your least monk like

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 2>thing about you that people would be surprised to now.

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Least monk like probably like addiction to like fried food, sugar, chocolate,

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 1>fudge cake with extra chocolate topics, Like it has to

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>be food related because yes, I have such a like, yeah,

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>such a big sweet tooth. It's like burgers, fries, pizza,

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>pasta with a ton of yeah, like I had it.

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I used to go to a place here in New

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>York called Terry's, Huh, And I invented a shake day.

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.839
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't named after her anything cool like that. I

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>just used to go there and I'll have the usual

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and they'd be like, what, what do you want to

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>explain it? But I'd get them to grind up a

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>brownie into their milk shape. I was like, I was like,

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>can you grind it just perfect so I can still

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>taste the brownie pieces? Like it needs to come up

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the straws And it's like, so that's yeah.

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're getting like too many emotions with it. Yeah,

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I get too connected talk about love.

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is the hard one. When was the last

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 2>time you let your pride or your ego get in

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the way of something?

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I mean every time I talked to

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 1>my wife Like, so it's hard, it's hard.

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 2>It's so good. By the way, you're killing a.

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Person who loved the most is the person who gets

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that side of you, like yeah, and they.

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Know you so easily to like know exactly your triggers are,

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 2>like things that piss you off.

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I I officiated Gen and Ben's wedding last year,

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and I've been asked about a lot. Oh yeah, that's

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.959
<v Speaker 1>on my mind. So I officiate this wedding last and

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I was practicing to my wife the day before and

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 1>she saw me practice. I had my notes, I you know,

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>rehearsed it for her, and she goes, that's terrible. She

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was just like that's really bad. Like she was like,

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you got to change that. And I was like, and

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>my whole ego, I was like, do you know who

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I am? I was? I was like, I was like,

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been asked, like, don't you realize? And it was

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 1>just really interesting because I was like and then I

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, I didn't obviously, I said to her.

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no, no, it's really good. I

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 1>mean I thought about this. She was like, no, no,

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you need to change the whole thing. And it was

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>just really interesting because all my ego wanted to do

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>is defend myself. But then I'm like, but she just

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>wants me to be good tomorrow. That's all she wants.

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<v Speaker 1>She's being honest with me when no one else would

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<v Speaker 1>be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>With me true everyone else would literally be like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest thing I've ever heard, Jay, You're amazing. Nobly,

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<v Speaker 2>she just wants me to be good tomorrow, and she

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<v Speaker 2>knows what you're capable.

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<v Speaker 1>Of exactly, and so I rewrote it and it went

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<v Speaker 1>really well and she was really happy with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, for me is a perfect example of

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<v Speaker 1>how every part of me was just defending myself and

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we do that with our partners with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>We defend ourselves because we want them to love us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we care so much about what they think.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>We care so much about what they think, but we

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize what they think is love. Like that is

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<v Speaker 1>care them saying hey, I think you could be better

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<v Speaker 1>at this. I think I know you can do better.

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I know how great you can be. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>deepest form of love and care. Not someone pretending that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have something in your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you're so right. I'm the person that tells

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<v Speaker 2>you there's something in your teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone came up to me the other day and told

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>me I was just about a film. Actually, I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing an interview last week on my podcast, and my

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<v Speaker 1>videographer is me, bro, You've got like cheer seeds all

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<v Speaker 1>up in your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, all right, all right, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get the.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. I'm I'm silent, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, final question, what advice would you give to the

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<v Speaker 2>listeners on how to cope with your hell when you're

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<v Speaker 2>going through it. You're in your darkness, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship, your job, what are some go to things

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<v Speaker 2>that you like to turn.

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<v Speaker 1>To the first thing that I've always said to myself

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<v Speaker 1>is this only makes the story better. One day, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell your story. One day you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>share it. It may just be with a family, friend, it

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>may just be it maybe be a child, it may

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<v Speaker 1>be with a brother or sister, a parent, And when

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you tell that story, your hell is what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make the story really connect and impact and help people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so don't lose that part of how amazing this

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:18.959
<v Speaker 1>will make your story. People will be able to relate

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to your hell far more than your heaven because your

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.439
<v Speaker 1>hell is something everyone can connect with. Everyone's been there.

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>The second thing I'd say is what is this telling

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<v Speaker 1>me I need to develop as a skill? Not what

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<v Speaker 1>do I need to learn? What's the skill that I

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<v Speaker 1>need to develop in order to break through this? Right?

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're holding a blunt sword and you can't cut

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 1>what's down in front of you, so it's like, Okay,

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.280
<v Speaker 1>let me learn to sharpen the sword. That's the skill

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I need right now. And I think often when we're struggling,

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>we're like, why is this happening to me? I wish

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't happening, rather than going wait, wait, wait, what

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>skill do I need to learn? Maybe the skill is mindfulness,

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the skill is resilience. Maybe the skill is learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to fight. And if you focus on a skill,

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>now you've got an amazing ammunition for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. You pull it out of your toolkit whenever

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you need it. Yes, So I'd say that's the second thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third thing that I say to myself when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through a tough time or walking through hell

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<v Speaker 1>is actually it's the opposite, reminding myself when I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>heaven that hell is just around the corner, and reminding

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.280
<v Speaker 1>myself in hell that heaven is just around the corner.

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And both have to work together. That when things I

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<v Speaker 1>always say to people, when things are bad, work hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but when things are good, work harder. Yes, because we

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 1>get so complacent when things are good, and when you

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:37.280
<v Speaker 1>get complacent when things are good, the hell feels much worse.

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And so just live in this equanimity of I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>doing my purpose whether it's hell or heaven.

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, instead of being so extreme with the light and dark.

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like you're existing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm existing. I know what I'm doing. Whether it's

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>hell or heaven. I'm going to wake up and do

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the same thing anyway, whether it's Hello Heaven. I'm going

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:56.919
<v Speaker 1>to wake up and meditate, whether it's hell or heaven.

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to wake up and work out. Whether it's

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>hell or heaven, I'm going to try and serve impact

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.760
<v Speaker 1>people because that's what I was born to do. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, J Shetty just served it up in Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That was amazing. I was like, I want to push him,

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.439
<v Speaker 2>my own challenge him, and you knocked everything out of the park.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell everyone where they can get your book, where they

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 2>can follow you, where they can see you live. Give

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>me all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tea, absolutely so. If you want to read the book

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>or listen to the audiobook version, which I read out myself,

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<v Speaker 1>oh gorgeous. Eight rules of Love dot com the number

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<v Speaker 1>eight Rules of Love dot Com. And if you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see me on tour, I'm going on my first

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<v Speaker 1>world tour ever. Very excited to sit near you. Head

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<v Speaker 2>That is so exciting. Thank you for coming to Hell.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you guys later.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye, Thank you so much. Imagine the Lord of the

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Rings if Frodo never had to leave the shire? How

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 1>about the is It of Oz with no tornado? Or

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>picture Black Panther. If t'charlene never had to battle a

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>challenger for the throne, they'd be totally boring, right. That's

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because every epic journey includes obstacles to overcome, mountains to climb,

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and magical rings to destroy. Okay, maybe not that, but

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you get the idea. The next seven minutes are about

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<v Speaker 1>your story and how struggle makes you stronger. I'm Jay Sheddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Daily Jay. Now, before we embark on

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>this great adventure, let's get centered by taking three deep

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>brats inhaling and exhaling, arriving and settling, connecting with this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and tuning in. So I'm going to let you in

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<v Speaker 1>on the world's worst kept secret. I love the Dark

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Knight trilogy. I think Christopher Nolan's reboot of the Batman

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<v Speaker 1>saga is absolutely epic. The characters are incredible, the story

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<v Speaker 1>rich and engaging. One of the things I love most

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 1>about Batman, aside from the fact that he gets the

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>coolest gear ever, is that, unlike many other superheroes, he

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't born with special powers. He didn't acquire them as

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a result of some freak laboratory accident or insect bite.

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Wayne is a regular human, just like you and me.

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<v Speaker 1>He needed to battle those villains along with his own

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 1>doubts and fears, in order to become Batman. The point is,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason that we're captivated by the Batman movies

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<v Speaker 1>and countless other epic te It's because they take us

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<v Speaker 1>on a roller coaster ride. First, the main character is up,

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>then they're down. They win sometimes, but they also lose.

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Their final victory doesn't come without significant struggle, and it's

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that wild ride that makes the triumph all the more inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. While we love to read or

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:31.920
<v Speaker 1>watch a great story, we're sometimes afraid to live one.

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>We've somehow been trained to believe that only good times

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<v Speaker 1>are worth living, that happiness and joy are what life

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:44.919
<v Speaker 1>is all about. We've made an enemy of so called

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 1>bad times. We don't see their value, and so we

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>try to run away from them or erase them from

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>our memories. But tough moments are there to give something

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<v Speaker 1>to us. If Bruce Wayne had just gone about his

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<v Speaker 1>regular life, if he'd never risen to the challenges set

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<v Speaker 1>before him, he would have never become the person he

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<v Speaker 1>is by the end of the story. He would have

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>never become capable of saving Gotham City. He would have

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 1>never become a hero. There's a Zen proverb that says,

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<v Speaker 1>obstacles don't block the path, they are the path. I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through some really hard times. I'm sure you have too.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find myself resisting what's happening, or I

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>start to question why I have a trick that helps

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>me adjust my mindset, I pause, take a breath, and

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>tell myself, this only makes the story better. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>of resisting challenges, think of them as brilliant plot points

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<v Speaker 1>that make your life richer and you stronger, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>a hero. On that note, let's do a visualized exercise

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<v Speaker 1>together to provide you with motivation for your journey. Begin

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<v Speaker 1>by getting a little more comfortable wherever you are landing

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<v Speaker 1>in the here and now and letting distractions fade into

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<v Speaker 1>the background. Taking a couple energizing breaths and grounding in

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the present, feeling your feet on the floor or your

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>seat in the chair, solid and connected. Now, bring to

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<v Speaker 1>mind a superhero that inspires you. Picture them in your

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<v Speaker 1>mind's eyes, think about their traits, the heroic qualities that

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<v Speaker 1>have helped them become who they are, and really connect

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<v Speaker 1>with that source of inspiration. Now look inside of you

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<v Speaker 1>and see if you can find any seeds of the heroic.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be something as simple as feeling the stable

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:39.480
<v Speaker 1>power of your feet on the floor, or maybe a

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:45.320
<v Speaker 1>memory of a time you felt courageous, whatever it is,

1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:57.680
<v Speaker 1>start to cultivate this quality within yourself. If you're feeling

1:00:57.800 --> 1:01:04.480
<v Speaker 1>some self doubt or un certainty, that's natural. Bruce Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>didn't become Batman overnight. I just hope you don't give

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<v Speaker 1>up on the greatness within. And let's open this up.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you generally view tough times or roadblocks that

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<v Speaker 1>get in your way? Can you reframe your outlook on challenges? Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>can you think of your personal story as a hero's journey?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you feel inspired by today's message, and if so,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure to pass it along to an everyday hero

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, in the words of Superman, you are

1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:02.680
<v Speaker 1>much stronger than you think you are. Trust me, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you tomorrow.