1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: This episode is airing in early to mid August of 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We are going to be talking about 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: friend retreats, slash girl getaways, whatever you want to call them, 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 2: getting together for a couple of days with friends. How 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: to make it happen, of course, why you might make 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: it happen. Although just sounds naturally like a ton of 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: fun to me, but through the lens of Sarah just 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: recently had a pretty fun getaway, so we wanted to 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: dissect that a little bit and then share some best 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: practices from how she has managed to have close to 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: annual get togethers with her friends for decades now, which 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: I think is really. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Cool, So, Sarah, I mean, maybe you could give us 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: a little. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Rundown of your friend portfolio currently how this group of 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: girls fits into that? 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, this group of girls is one of 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: my sort of far flung friend groups. I guess I 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: do feel like I have a mix of friends who 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: are local to the area and then people from other 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: phases of life or other parts of life that don't 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: live anywhere near the state. So I guess starting with 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: local friends, most of them I've gotten to know either 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: through the kids, like other parents, through work, through running. 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: I really actually the void of having friends that I 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: saw like regularly every couple times a week, really in 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: the morning. I do miss that I don't have like 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: a sub for that right now. And then also book club, 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: although I'm still friends with my running club ladies. And 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: then there's kind of like the kind of farther flong friends. 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: I have a really close friend who lives in Miami Beach, 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: which is not far, but it's now far enough that 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: we have to think about it when we want to 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: get together, whereas we used to be super local. And 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: then I have my college friends, and this is the 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: group that we'll be talking about because this is a 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: group that's managed to do very consistent get togethers. I 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: don't know about annual, they've been annual the past few years. 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 3: I don't know about for two decades, but they've been consistent. 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: And that is a group of six friends that I 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: met at Williams my first year. One of them is 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: my roommate Azusa, who is a delightful human being. And 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: then the others were actually in the entry, which is 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: sort of like the building right next to us, and 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: we became friends freshman year and into sophomore year, lived 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: together senior year, and have remained close ever since. And 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: then I also have this category of like blog friends, 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: and Laura, I would put you in that just because 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: that's how we initially got together. And now there are 62 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: some others who I text regularly or people who started 63 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: off as blog friends, but now I've actually met them 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: in real life and they just feel like regular long 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: distance friendships. So I really do feel like that sphere 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: of my life has given back to me in the 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: front department quite a bit. 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: What about you, Yeah, now that's definitely true, So yeah, 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: I would I would put the same categories like I 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: have the few local friends that are available for sort 71 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: of regular get together as we often do some sort 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: of exercise together, run with people, or walk with people, 73 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: or sometimes if the weather is bad, we might do 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: coffee or local brewery like to get together at. And 75 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: then a few more far flung friends that I see 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: a couple times a year, people I guess, like you 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: who you see on occasion. We don't live in the 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: same area, but we can still get together when that works. 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: There's a few people I've gotten to know through my 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: husband's work, reasonably well acquaintances through the kids friends, things 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: like that. Kind of jealous of your friend group concept, 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: like this idea of a distinct group of people where 83 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: everyone knows each other, because I feel like a lot 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: of my friends I'm close with. 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: Individual people, but those people. 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: Do not all know each other, and I understand that 87 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: there's challenges with that as well, but it's just a 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: sort of different flavor. 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, Well, it's interesting to see. 90 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Because I mean, my daughter actually has a friend group 91 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: that is a very distinct group of people, Like this 92 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: is the group, and they get together regularly all the time, 93 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: and there's the friendships within that, and I just find 94 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 2: it interesting. So I don't know, there's just different ways 95 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: of interacting with people. 96 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess my college friends. And then also my 97 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: run club feels like a very cohesive group. I will 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: say the text chain kind of helps solidify a group, like. 99 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Who's on the text chain and who's exactly. 100 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: You're on it or you're not. You have your like 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: little writer club, Yeah, I have a couple of one 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: that is true for sure. 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: And then in terms of how to keep in touch 105 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: with people who are not in your locale, I feel 106 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: like there are three separate ways that it can be 107 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: consistently done. The text chain is number one, and also 108 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: just individual texting. Walk and talks have been a kind 109 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: of recent addition to my portfolio, but I've done them 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: more and more. I tend to do them with specific 111 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: people who just like to do it. But that's a 112 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: nice way to get kind of deep with someone even 113 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: every few months, and kind of keep up with what's 114 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: going on in their lives. And then, of course the 115 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: in person visits are very, very exciting, and I'm always 116 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: amazed at how natural they feel. Like you haven't seen 117 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: someone for a year, and of course you've been intermittently texting, 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: but you wonder like is it still going to feel 119 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: like easy and normal when we're together and with my 120 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: college friends, It's like, yes, immediately we're twenty again, and 121 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, like we can all be real with 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: each other. We obviously have a lot to catch each 123 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: other up on because we don't keep up with like 124 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: the everyday details of our lives, but it feels very 125 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: natural and fun and even easy. 126 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: I would say, Yeah, Well, we're going to spend a 127 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: lot of this episode talking about a recent getaway that 128 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: Sarah did with her friends. Can you just give the 129 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: basic what that was? 130 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: Yes, So they actually came here this time to Fort 131 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: Lauderdale Beach area, and we spent about a Wednesday to 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: a Saturday together. 133 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: Okay, but it's not always in Florida, correct. 134 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: No, So should I go through our location? Well, I 135 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: guess we'll get to that. 136 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, the idea is that you 137 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: get together somewhere, but it's not like you have a 138 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: set weekend every year that's a set place. 139 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: Correct. The weekend varies and the place varies. 140 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: Okay, All right, Well let's start by talking about the logistics. 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: So how do you guys decide where and when to 142 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: get together, So. 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: We start with a when, because that is the toughest part. 144 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: We are six busy people. You are correct. You mentioned 145 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: later in our notes that not everybody have kids. Of 146 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: the six of us have kids, so three of us 147 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: have kids. I have the oldest children, so I'm the 148 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: only one with a teen, and then we've got a 149 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: bunch of like toddlers and five year olds and things 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: like that. But everyone lives in different places, and everyone 151 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: works pretty much full time, so that means finding actual 152 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: agreed upon time is difficult. And so what we start 153 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: with is a shared Google sheet and it has the 154 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: months the year listed in everyone's name, and then you 155 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: just code the month red, yellow, or green. If it's 156 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: a great month for you and you think, oh yeah, 157 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: October's looking really open, you make it green. If you're like, 158 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: absolutely no way. I always make May red because I'm 159 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: just like no. And then once we have it down 160 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: to the month or a couple months, because we look 161 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: to see where everybody is either yellow or green, then 162 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: we can actually list this weekend, this weekend, this weekend, 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: this weekend, and at that point people usually have even 164 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: more granular I can do it or I can't do it, 165 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: and then finally we will decide on the date. Ideally 166 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: this is done, I mean almost a year in advance. 167 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: I am absolutely leading the charge here. I don't know 168 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: that everyone else would be that excited about planning so 169 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: far ahead. But we do have a nurse who gets 170 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: her schedule way in advance. We have two people who 171 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: are in the science and medical world who do like 172 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: international speaking gigs that get booked like nine months out. 173 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: This is a busy group, so it actually does make 174 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: sense to solidify these dates on the earlier side. Plus 175 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: I need to make sure that I'm not on call, 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: so usually by at least by like January February, we're 177 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: figuring out the dates for a given year. 178 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: And it sounds like you may be somewhat spearheading this. 179 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: Would you characterize it that way? 180 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 3: I haven't been the one that makes the Google sheet. 181 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: I feel like that is my friend Nicole. But I'm 182 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: usually the one to nag everyone and be like, yeah. 183 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the first thing we need in order 184 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: to have your girls get away. 185 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: You need a Sarah in your group, right. 186 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: You need somebody who is into planning and it is 187 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: into organizing people and is willing to kind of stick 188 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: with it. 189 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: And I think that. 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: All of those are challenges that might arise as other 191 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: people are trying to plan multi people get away. 192 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: We'll get to other challenges that might arise too as well. 193 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: But then let's say you've decided, so you decide date first, 194 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: and you guys decided first. 195 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: Okay, So often we'll have date before we have location, 196 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: by a matter of months, like, okay, we should be 197 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: better about location, as I'll get to in a second, 198 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: because lodging can be tough with our particular group of people. 199 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, usually dates are far beyond any other detail 200 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: just because we can't agree. 201 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but once you have the date, then it moves 202 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: to location. And is there a general policy here? I mean, 203 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: because you're all over the country, do you try to 204 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: go to one person's place or do you try to 205 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: meet in the middle? 206 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: What's the thought process here? 207 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: There's no particular policy except we try to share the wealth. 208 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: We have two West Coasters, we have two Bostonians a 209 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: main and then me, I think we're missing someone there. 210 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: But you get my basic idea. We're kind of spread out, 211 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: so we wouldn't like go to California every year because 212 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: obviously that would be hard for the Boston people and 213 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: easy for the California people. We kind of move it around. 214 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: Plus moving around is good for variety. And then usually 215 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: other than this year, if we pick a summer destination, 216 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: we try not to make it a really hot and 217 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: disgusting one because a couple of the members of the 218 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: group don't prefer that, but they took one for the team. 219 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Ok, year, and as all right, Well, we're to take 220 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: a quick ad break and then we'll be back with 221 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: more on the logistics of planning a friend getaway. Well, 222 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: we are back talking friend getaways, girls' weekends, that kind 223 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: of thing. Looking at this through the lens of Sarah's 224 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: recent gathering with her six friends from Williams or six 225 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: total people from Williams that they've been getting together over 226 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: the decades fairly frequently, so we've learned that she decides 227 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: a date many many months agehead of time. Lodging location 228 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: comes later. You guys have done both airbnbs and hotel 229 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: type situations. 230 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: We have done mostly hotels. We've actually done some interesting 231 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: kind of hybrid places. There's this sort of like apartment 232 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: like hotel we did in Denver that was kind of interesting, 233 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: Like no front desk. It was almost like everyone got 234 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: their own mini apartment. We are open to airbnbs, and 235 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: in fact, for next year we're considering renting a house 236 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: in addition to using one of the actual members of 237 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: the group's kind of shorehouse. So yeah, it can vary. 238 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: We're pretty open when it comes to lodging. 239 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Okay, but this year you wound up at the b 240 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Ocean Resort. I hear this year what I did. 241 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: End up at the b Ocean Resort, which Laura has 242 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: been to twice because it was the scene of Besley 243 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: Plans Live for the past two years, not this upcoming 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: year actually, but it fit the constraine of we do 245 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: have to respect people's budgets, and people in this group 246 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: have different budgets a little bit, but we just make 247 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 3: sure that everyone is comfortable with what we select in 248 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: terms of the niceness and the costs and everything like that. 249 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: And this year be Ocean fit the bill really nicely. 250 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: And do you spend a lot of time thinking about 251 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: the itinerary? I mean, is this like a planned week 252 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: in Europe where you're going to one thing after another 253 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: or is it more of a chill and relaxed sort 254 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: of thing. 255 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: It is more of a chill and relax sort of thing. Now, 256 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: being the person who was closest, I felt a little 257 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: bit of pressure to kind of help out and figure 258 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: out what we were going to do. And I'll give 259 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: you guys a rundown. But we do try to keep 260 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: it to just sort of like one chill anchor thing 261 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: per day, because the idea is not for us to 262 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: be touring some city and seeing a million different landmarks, 263 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: but to be doing things that are fun but really 264 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: just getting to spend time together, a lot of long 265 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: lingering brunches and dinners. 266 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk us through. 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: What did you guys do when you were I mean, 268 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: other than see the Mermaid show at be Ocean? 269 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: We did not did not see the March Sarah. 270 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Now, I'm just disappointed the Mermaids. 271 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: We were thinking about it, but the Mermaids are only 272 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: on until nine on Thursday and Friday, and we were 273 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: out later than that, so we were just too much fun. 274 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: We missed the Mermaids and we did not purchase tickets 275 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: to the official burlesque Mermaid show that they have at 276 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: the b Ocean. We're giving them a lot of free 277 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: advertising today. But yeah, for girls get away that could 278 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: have been really, really fun. Honestly, just the idea of 279 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: the Mermaids made us happy, so that was good enough, 280 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: all right. So basically everyone flew in on Wednesday, and 281 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: I actually drove over from my house and met them 282 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: at the hotel just to hang out with them for 283 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: a bit, and then we went and met up for dinner, 284 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: and Josh actually came because the kids were at camp 285 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to entirely leave him out. We 286 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: did some girls only dinners, but we figured, hey, but 287 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: the kids away, what's wrong with him coming? And they 288 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: were all excited to see him. They know him pretty 289 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: well by now at this point. And we had dinner 290 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: at Yacht which is a place Josh and I have 291 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: been to a lot. It was nice because I felt 292 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: like we were close enough in Fort Lauderdale that I 293 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: had enough since it wasn't that long of it. I 294 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: was like, I have a good number of restaurants enough 295 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: to fill this time. So that was the first one 296 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: we did. On Thursday, everybody kind of relaxed in the morning, 297 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: they got breakfast. Another girl actually came in a little 298 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: bit later on Thursday, so everyone I think hung out, 299 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: had breakfast and I had to go to a family funeral, 300 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: so it was actually very lucky that this is a 301 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: local event. I did not want to miss Josh's great 302 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: ants one hundred and fourth. She turned one hundred and 303 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: four and then she passed away. Anyway, lovely woman, Marilyn. 304 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: Nice to say goodbye to her, and then I went 305 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: back to join my friends because that's what life is 306 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: all about. And we met at the spa and I 307 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: got a massage and some of them got facial some 308 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: of them got massages. We had a great time, went 309 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: to the hotel to chill a little bit, and then 310 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: went out to dinner at a pizza place. That's where 311 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: I thought we'd made it back to the Mermaids, but 312 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: again we were having way too much fun. Interestingly, we 313 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: found that at most places servers were really happy to 314 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: see us and like just they'd ask like, oh, is 315 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: anyone local? And I'm like me and then they're like, oh, 316 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: where's everyone else from? And when they realized it was 317 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: six forty some women that got together, they were super happy, 318 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: so that like kind of added a festive air. We 319 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: had a great dinner, hung out at the hotel bar 320 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: afterwards for a little bit even though we missed the Mermaids. 321 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: On Friday, we slept in a little bit and then 322 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: went out to brunch, and then I decided we would 323 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: spend the day in boc Ratonon just because there's a 324 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: mall there that I really like, and there's a Japanese gardens. 325 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: And it wasn't because one of the members of our 326 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: party happened to be Japanese, but I don't know that 327 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: made it even more appropriate. So we hung out of 328 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: the gardens, went shopping, went to a lot of fun stores. 329 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: I bought a pair of sandals, which I will say, 330 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: I'd love to buy some item when we take these trips, 331 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: even if it's just like a little cosmetic item, because 332 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: then I get to see it and I think, oh, 333 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: I bought that with my friends, and I will think 334 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: that every time I wear these Nordstrum sandals. And basically 335 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: we shopped until we dropped, headed back to the hotel 336 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: after the and then went out to a grand finale dinner. 337 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: And I actually took everyone out to dinner that night, 338 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: in part because I hadn't had to fly and everybody 339 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: else had to fly here, and also because we tend 340 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: to do little gifts and I just figured, you know what, 341 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: in lieu of a physical gift, let me just make 342 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: this a gift that everyone will enjoy. So we went 343 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: to Toto in Fort Lauderdale Beach, which is a little 344 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: bit fancier. Our server was actually not very great at 345 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: that restaurant, but the food is excellent, so I don't know, 346 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: I had to get throw them a little shade because 347 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: they deserved it, but the food is really good. And 348 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: then that night we had our own impromptu adventure because afterwards, 349 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: three of us went to go back to the room 350 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: and the power was out in the tower where we 351 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: were staying, so the hotel was totally dark. We went 352 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: to the front desk and they said, oh, we're gonna 353 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: move you. We don't know when the power is gonna 354 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: be back on, but you're gonna have to go in 355 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: there and get your stuff. And it was like, oh 356 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: my gosh, pitch black, hotel, silent, no power. Thankfully, safety 357 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: and numbers. So the three of us actually went to 358 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: one room at a time, we used our flashlight phones, 359 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: and then as soon as we had packed the first 360 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: person up, the lights came back on, but again kind 361 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: of added to the memorableness well, you. 362 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: Could actually get into your hotel. There aren't the doors electronic. 363 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: How does that even work? 364 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: I don't know why it worked. I think it might 365 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: be like we asked them and they're like, yeah, it's 366 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: gonna work, and it did work. They were right, So yeah, 367 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: fun fact about the power outage. They also had some 368 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: master key that they said would have worked if not, 369 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: but they thought it would work. We all slept in again, 370 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: which was luxurious. On Saturday, Laura, you will not believe this, 371 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: but I actually went in the ocean. 372 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it was very exciting. Sarah tend's not to go 373 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: in the ocean. 374 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: It was peer pressure and I think I was in 375 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: there for fifteen minutes. 376 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: And then I can't get you in. I can't get 377 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: you in. Apparently my peer pressure isn't strong enough. 378 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing is it happened to be like 379 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: a cloudless sky and like the calmest I was like, 380 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: if I can't get in under these conditions, like I'm 381 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: never going in. I was like fine, but then one 382 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: person was like, oh, there's fish touching my feet and 383 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: they're like, I'm. 384 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Out by guys. 385 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: How dare the ocean have marine life in it? 386 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: So I was like, I'll be at the pool, but 387 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: I did go in and then we checked out. I 388 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: didn't really have any activities planned for that day, but 389 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: we all decided to get nail appointments near my house 390 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 3: since I knew where to go. We stopped at a 391 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: brunch place on the way that I knew about, and 392 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: then we landed at our house, where we played Nintendo, 393 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: like a really old Nintendo from the eighties that our 394 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: neighbor had given us, and we had Super Mario Brothers, which, 395 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: like many of us, have embedded and seered into our memories, 396 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: and we sat around and played video games that hung 397 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: out with the kids. It was very fun because obviously 398 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: I had talked about the kids to them so much, 399 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: but some of them hadn't really met the kids since 400 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: they were little, so that part was really really fun. 401 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: And then we actually cooked dinner, so well, we half 402 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: cooked dinner. We did We made our own drinks, We 403 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: made old Cubans, and we made some piccadillo, and then 404 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: we ordered some additional Cuban takeout to like go with 405 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: that because we wanted to give them some kind of 406 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: a South Florida flavor. Had a great dinner. They ended 407 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: up ubering back to the hotel after and that kind 408 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: of concluded the weekend. They flew out the next morning, 409 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: so I would definitely call it a success. There was 410 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of hosting pressure on me, but they 411 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: didn't make me feel pressured at all. They're like, it 412 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: was very much like I'd be like, let's do this. Okay, 413 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: sounds great like because I think everyone just didn't care. 414 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: We just wanted to hang out and the terms weren't 415 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: that important. Way another, which was wonderful, and I do 416 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: feel like I really caught up on everyone. I got 417 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: some nice one on one conversations, but we had group 418 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: conversations as well, lots of joking, fun nineties and early 419 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: aughts music. It was great. 420 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Yeah. Well, I mean, 421 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: did you manage to get your next one booked? 422 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean I love the idea of, like the hair selon, 423 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: you make your next appointment while you're at this one. 424 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: Did you get your next weekend booked while you were there? 425 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: We did not get to a specific date because I 426 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: think especially my two like international speakers, that they're like, 427 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: I need to consult the conferences and stuff. But we 428 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: did kind of decide that we're most likely I think. 429 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: I mentioned like one of them has a beach house 430 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: in Massachusetts, so we're going to try to combine her 431 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: house within nearby house a little bit off peak season, 432 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 3: so September October, so we've certainly narrowed it down. And 433 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: that's always a season when I love to travel because 434 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 3: I love to get out of Florida in the non 435 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: fall that we have. So even though we don't have 436 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: the exact dates, I feel like that's pretty good in 437 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: terms of solidified since it's only August of twenty twenty five. 438 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and your kids were actually at camp during this 439 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: for at least half of it. 440 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: Yes, So of course one thing that always comes to 441 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: mind is like, oh, I feel guilty leaving the kids. 442 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: I will say I didn't get a lot of guilt 443 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: vibes from the two parents who attended, which is awesome. 444 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the way it should be. Both of 445 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: them have involved partners, and both of them have partners 446 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: who travel as well, so I think both of them 447 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: were like, yeah, like sometimes you go away and sometimes 448 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: I go away, and it's doable and it's great for everyone. 449 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 3: So that was awesome on my end. I didn't even like, 450 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't have felt guilt if I wanted to, because 451 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: my kids were at camp. 452 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: For most of this. 453 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 3: They got back Friday night, our nanny picked them up, 454 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: so she took care of them, and then when Josh 455 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: got home, she left, and then so Josh really had 456 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: like half a day of solo parenting. So yeah, not 457 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: a huge ask, although he yeah, he did great in 458 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 3: terms of like helping cook dinner for everyone and just 459 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: being kind of part of the festivities without being in 460 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: all of it. 461 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: Now, do you think you would do something like this 462 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: if you didn't have a specific group of people, Like 463 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: could you see yourself trying to organize like a group 464 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: of your local friends to go to I don't know, 465 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: Vancouver together or something like that. 466 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, I mean I think they'd be more 467 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: likely for it to be centered around some kind of 468 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: event or excuse, Like well, when you and I do 469 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: our little recording retreats, like we're trying to get a 470 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: bunch of recording done, we're also trying to have fun. 471 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 3: If like my friend was running a race, we might 472 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: like go to spectator or something like that. And I actually, 473 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean this is very indulgent, but I have another 474 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: girl's weekend coming up this year. In my defense, I 475 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: took zero last year and these two opportunities just sort 476 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: of presented themselves. So I'm going away again. This time 477 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm traveling and meeting two friends in the middle of October. 478 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: So I guess my answer to that is yes, I'm 479 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 3: kind of always up for this kind of a thing. 480 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: And there are bright spots in my life little getaways 481 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: with Josh, trips with the kids, and then also solo traveling. 482 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: I love all three of those things. 483 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: Awesome. Sounds good. 484 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to take one more quick ad break 485 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: and then we'll be talking a little bit more about 486 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: logistics of girls getaways, et cetera, and our Q and 487 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: A and all that. 488 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: Well, we are back talking friend getaways. 489 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: Sarah recently had a great one in Fort Lauderdale, which 490 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: was on a getaway for her, but she has traveled 491 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: to with the same group of people various places. So 492 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: I have a few questions about this that we can 493 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: sort of help people who are thinking like this sounds great. 494 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I could ever make it happen. 495 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: Do people occasionally miss like what do you do if 496 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: you realize in a year that like, you're just not 497 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: going to get two of these people to come. 498 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: Well, I missed last year. I missed not in a 499 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: planned way, but we had something going on where it 500 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: was like, you know what, can't go, Sorry, ladies, and 501 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: it was sad, but they had a great time without me. 502 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: So so far we've always been able to find a 503 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: date where all six people can go. But I kind 504 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: of am glad there's a precedent of like somebody missing 505 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: because it wasn't the end of the world, and like 506 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: the group went on and it showed that just because 507 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: someone misses one year doesn't make the next year any 508 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: less worthwhile. I could imagine that. Interestingly, I mentioned that, 509 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 3: like the other two have young kids and they were 510 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: perfectly time with COVID, so we didn't meet up in 511 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: like twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, And that was 512 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: also when Vicki and Azusa had kids, so that was 513 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: like convenient for them not to even feel pressure to 514 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: travel when they were still breastfeeding or anything like that. Yeah, 515 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean I could imagine a situation where we would 516 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: plan a smaller group and we have like kind of 517 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: floated the idea of maybe doing just a kid get 518 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: away at some point or things like that, but I 519 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: think we would at least give it the old college, 520 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: try to make all of us be able to make it. 521 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: And is this the original six? 522 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: It's not that somebody was originally part of it and 523 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: drifted off for anything like that. 524 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: Or the original six? 525 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: Okay, what was the first one? What was your first 526 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: get together with the six? 527 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: I have no idea. 528 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so you don't remember a specific part where the 529 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: tradition started, No, I. 530 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: Mean I feel like for many years we'd either go 531 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: to Williams reunions or we would go to like someone 532 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: was getting married, like many years, like Vicky got married 533 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, and like Amy got married in two 534 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: thousand and nine, like I feel it and everyone had 535 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: there was a lot of years with weddings in there, 536 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: so that was often the gathering. And I also feel 537 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: like before our pre r thirties, I'm not sure we 538 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: were so good about doing this annually, just because I 539 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: don't know that, like we had the funds, like we 540 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 3: just didn't ever stuff together at that point to do this. 541 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know when the first was. But 542 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: now I'm gonna float that to the group text after 543 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: we're done, and I'll let you know. 544 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Has there ever been a disagreement about something. 545 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes there's disagreements about lodging, Like certain people have higher 546 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: end tastes and then other people are like, I am 547 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: not paying that, So that can be point of contention. 548 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: And you've come up with a compromise. 549 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: I mean, what's the so far we've always been able 550 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 3: to come up with a compromise. 551 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right. 552 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: Interesting and it sounds like generally people are more or 553 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: less easy going on actual activities. 554 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: That's not a source of contention. 555 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, and I should mention we have done at 556 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: least one of these with our partners. We used to 557 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: use the name snuggle face ironically to refer to having 558 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: a partner, so like we'd be like snuggle face inclusive 559 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: or not. That's one of those things that like works 560 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: really well in the group chat, and then I say 561 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: it out out of the podcast. 562 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's just funny. Now the world knows about 563 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: snuggle face. 564 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: So we have done them. I think that was more 565 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: pre kids, but there's been at least one or two 566 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: where it was Oh and we did one in Portland. 567 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: Actually a memorable one was in Portland. Oregon, when Genevieve 568 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: and Ali who Sayzusa son were like each eight months old, 569 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: and that was like with partners and stuff, and we 570 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: have pictures of the babies playing together only two days 571 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: apart actually, so they're like almost the same birthday and 572 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: those are like iconic photos for us. 573 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's interesting because it sounds to me like 574 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: when this got sort of running as a more regular thing, 575 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 2: you were the only person who had kids. 576 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as we've established, they also all visited me 577 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: in Durham when it was just Annabel at one point, 578 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: which was the cutest thing ever. 579 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: But as we have established, you are also somewhat the 580 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: one spearheading some of the organization for it. And I 581 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: feel like in many cases, one of the obstacles to 582 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: a regular girls get away slash whatever, friends get away, 583 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: whatever it is is that people decide that their kid 584 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: responsibilities preclude this, or that the kid's schedules make it impossible. 585 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Whereas in your group people had children later. You were 586 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: the one who was on the earlier side. But since 587 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: you were the one organizing and spearheading and doing the planning, 588 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: it didn't wind up being an obstacle. 589 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm sort of just like to. 590 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: Break down what makes this work in a long running 591 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: way that I think a lot don't. 592 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: Yes, And again, to be fair, I don't know that 593 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: we did it like every year when I had like 594 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: a one in three year old, because this hasn't been 595 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: like a perfectly consistent year after year thing other than 596 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: the past few years. But it's certainly been again like 597 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 3: at least every year or two, there's been some reason 598 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: that we all get to see each other. 599 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is great. I mean I love that idea. 600 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, are you going to do this? 601 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: Like have I given you any inspo to get a 602 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: group together? I mean when you asked the question about 603 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: like would you get your local friends together? 604 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think I could be inspired to 605 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: do it, And like you said, I do have some 606 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: get togethers with like writer friends and such that happen. 607 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the overlap with professional and personal. 608 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: But things don't have to be purely personal, and the 609 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: work is life and so there is overlap on that. 610 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think we certainly want to encourage our 611 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: listeners to consider doing it as well. 612 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: If you have a group of people that you would like. 613 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: To see, maybe you could take that on as a project, 614 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: as a goal over the next year to try to 615 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: get some group of them together to do something, and 616 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 2: probably you will enjoy it enough that maybe you can 617 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: lock people in for our next getaway while you are 618 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: on it and start having a great transition. That could 619 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: be all sorts of anticipatory joy in your life because 620 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: you look forward to this for a long time. Stary, 621 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: I remember you were quite unhappy last fall when you 622 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: didn't get to go. Oh. 623 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 3: I was unhappy for many reasons, but that was. 624 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: One that was one of them. 625 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: Sorry for the vague podcasting, but so Partners, your husband 626 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: has he ever done anything like this? 627 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: Well, he isn't really a group person either. 628 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: I mean, neither of us has like the fraternity brothers 629 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: from college or something like that. Just is not our 630 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: lie That's not our personalities, I think, is what. 631 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I would say. 632 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: But he is really close with his little brother, and 633 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: the two of them do things together, like a couple 634 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: years ago they went to the Super Bowl together, and 635 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: they go skiing together. 636 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: Most years. They sometimes get together. 637 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: When my husband's like working in Boston, they will get 638 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: together while he is there, so he does get away 639 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: with him. It's not a group thing obviously, but that's 640 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: just that's great though. 641 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Josh has also been like there's no regular 642 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: occurring thing. He's done some one off trips to Seattle 643 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: because he has a close friend there, and he actually 644 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: just decided that he's going to do a spring marathon 645 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: with our good friend and it's going to be a 646 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: guy's trip, and I'm very I'm like really excited for him. 647 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: I think that will be kind of a good experience 648 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: for him. 649 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm excited for him too, all right. Well, 650 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: so moving to our question part of the show. 651 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: So many people when this is airing are either on 652 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: vacation or going to be taking a vacation in August 653 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: at some point, and particularly if you're going for a 654 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: longer period of time, you might wind up doing some 655 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: work on vacation. Stress here that there's a difference between 656 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: being forced to work on your vacation days, which is 657 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: not really cool. But sometimes we decide that we have responsibilities, Like, 658 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: especially if you're in a managerial role, like you need 659 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: to kind of check in at some point and all 660 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: that you might decide to do it you run your 661 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 2: own business, whatever it is, are there ways to make 662 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: that happen without driving everyone else on your vacation. Insane, Sarah, 663 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: what do you think? 664 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: Well, first, I guess I think we should give you 665 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: credit for this inspiring this question because it did kind 666 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: of stem from a wonderful Vanderhack's sub stack article. So 667 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: you want more wisdom like this, that's subscribing to Van. Yes, 668 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: I think working on the plane can be, especially if 669 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: it's a long plane ride, you can churn out a 670 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 3: lot of hours of work without really bothering anyone. Now, 671 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: of course, if you're on life full on toddler duty 672 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: or you're passing your toddler back and forth, that might 673 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: be less of a thing. But if your kids are 674 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: fiveing up and easily entertained by devices, this could be 675 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: a wonderful way to kind of front load the work 676 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: on your trip on the way there. 677 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: But not my five year old, Let's see, it's a 678 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: different five year old, except Henry. 679 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: Early morning hours for me are always like a good 680 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: full proof I'm fresh, I can get my coffee, if 681 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: I can find a place to sneak to if I 682 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: have to work. That's what I think I did when 683 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: I had some book to finish and we were skiing 684 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: in Montana. I mean, it wasn't my favorite. Honestly, I'm 685 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: really hoping that this time I will not Well, I know, 686 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: I won't be finishing a book because my book will 687 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: have come out like two weeks prior, so I won't 688 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: have another book being finished this time. But yeah, I 689 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: did them kind of early, got it over with. And 690 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: then in your sub stack you mentioned orchestrating a trade 691 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: with your partner. Perhaps, yeah, I. 692 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: Mean you should. 693 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: I have to think about what kind of vacation it 694 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: is and what kind of what you're dealing with in 695 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: terms of the ages of your kids. As Sarah said, 696 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: early morning is good for a lot of this, especially 697 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: if you have older kids who might sleep in or 698 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: want to sleep in on vacation, or if you are 699 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: doing things like sight seeing all day. Then obviously working 700 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: in the middle of that is just going to disrupt everything. 701 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: So you need to get up early and do it 702 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: at the beginning, or maybe it's at the end of 703 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: the day after you've come back, if you have like 704 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: an hour before everyone goes to dinner, that might be 705 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: a time you could make it happen. Now, if you're 706 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: stationary somewhere and it's like a relaxed kind of vacation. 707 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: You're at the beach, and especially if you have younger kids, 708 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: you might decide that you're all going to go out 709 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: to the beach in the morning, come back, have lunch, 710 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: and then do nap time or screen time, depending on 711 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: if the kids are still napping, And then that presents 712 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: itself as like one point thirty to three thirty could 713 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: be your work time while the kids are napping or 714 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: watching a movie, and then you all kind of gather 715 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: together at the end of that and then do whatever 716 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: your late afternoon thing is before dinner and the rest 717 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: of the day. So that might be an option there. 718 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: And then of course the other trading off with your partner. 719 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean maybe both of you have something you would 720 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: like to do that your partner might need to. 721 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Work or want to just do something for him or herself. 722 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: And if you decide, especially if you have a longer 723 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: day that you need to do like that I'm going 724 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: to have to leave in the middle of this beach 725 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: vacation to go to the office. Like you're close enough 726 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: that that's an option. You could decide that, Okay, I'm 727 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: taking Tuesday to do that. Wednesday, the other person does 728 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 2: whatever they're going to do, whether that's work or go 729 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: off and do something on their own. 730 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: So you've orchestrated a trade. So each of you feels 731 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: like it's fair because. 732 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: I would point out that just because you need to 733 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: work on vacation does not mean that your partner necessarily 734 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 2: wants to cover more childcare on vacation. So in the 735 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: interest of keeping everyone. 736 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Happy, probably need to account for that as you were 737 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: planning these things out. 738 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: Sounds good to me. Well, Love of the Week, Laura. 739 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: All right, I say the Phillies. 740 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: So Sarah and I went to a Phillies game in 741 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: early July when she was here. We decided to go 742 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: to another one recently over a Friday night. 743 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: You wanted to see one where they might didn't. 744 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Win, where they won. 745 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: Yes, it was good to see one where they won, 746 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: although it was tenuous because so they were playing the 747 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers, and the Tigers scored like three runs in 748 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: an inning. 749 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it was really terrible. It was like things 750 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: were looking good and. 751 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden there were like three runs, 752 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: so you're down three zero, and eventually the Phillies came back, 753 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: and then the Tigers scored another run and then Phillies 754 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: scored one, and then there was this call that was 755 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: like whether the runner was safe or not, because then 756 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: that would have been the third out or not the 757 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: third out, and so whether the next run that was 758 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: scored on the same play was called, and so it 759 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: was like the ump said it was he was out, 760 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: and then it was reviewed and it was pretty clear 761 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: that everyone the stands was screaming because he wasn't out, 762 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: like I mean enough that people could see it. But 763 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 2: so it was called back and so they got the run. 764 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: So then the Phillies wound up winning five to four. 765 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: So that was pretty exciting. 766 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: Yay, that is exciting. My love of the week is 767 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: that at this delicious brunch place called Maple and Cream, 768 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 3: they have croissant French toast, and there was also a 769 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: place in the Head crossant French toast, and at both 770 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: places it's the best of both worlds. So if you 771 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: see it on a menu, you should order it. 772 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: All right the end, we will keep that in mind 773 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: as a life hack. In general, well, people do up 774 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: French toast all kinds of crazy ways. There's this brunch 775 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: place near us that has a carrot cake French toast, 776 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: so you basically turn carrot cake into French toast, which 777 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 2: is a good idea. 778 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: I would like that too. 779 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another brunch place that does seasonal French toast 780 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: that it's like stuffed with something, so it was like 781 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 2: pumpkin in the fall. There's this chocolate chip cookie dough 782 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: French toast that has had my daughter wanting to go 783 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: back to this place numerous times, although. 784 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: They've never had it on the venue again. 785 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: So, well, I know what we're doing the next time 786 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: I come to Philadelphia. I'm excited one of those. 787 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: There's two brunch options then, exactly all right, Well, this 788 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: has been best of both worlds. We've been talking friend getaways, 789 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: why you might consider them, and the logistics of doing 790 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: it based on Sarah's recent happy experience doing so. 791 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: We will be back next week with more on making 792 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: work and life fit together. 793 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 794 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 795 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: and you can. 796 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: Find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 797 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. 798 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: Please join us next time for more on making work 799 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 2: and life work together.