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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntire. What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, October one. The calendar has moved to October,

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Speaker 1: usually the month for baseball, right, the boys of October,

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Speaker 1: as they say, But uh, we're gonna start with a

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Speaker 1: little n b A. I don't know how much we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. On Game one of the NBA Finals, it

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Speaker 1: was something of a blood bath. I'm assuming many of

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Speaker 1: you watched. Hopefully you followed me on the best bet

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Speaker 1: to it? Oh, babe, b how you like me? Now?

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Speaker 1: Lakers roll one sixteen to night. It was not close

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Speaker 1: for a moment in the second half. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was ever single digits. And you know it's an

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Speaker 1: ugly game when Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Breen, like

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Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter Lakers are up like thirty,

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Speaker 1: start talking about Lebron versus Jordan's first bar for the

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Speaker 1: greatest player in NBA history. Folks, it's game one, Game one, now,

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Speaker 1: I thought about, you know, there was a couple of

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Speaker 1: ways out. We just go blow through this. There's not

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Speaker 1: much left to say here, um, but I have an analogy,

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Speaker 1: and I was listening to a podcast about a guy

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Speaker 1: talking about startups in Silicon Valley and how the best

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Speaker 1: ones historically have been built, and he this guy had

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Speaker 1: been a part of several And just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: yes I did start a website. No I did not

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Speaker 1: take any seed money. Yes I sold it. It was

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Speaker 1: written about in the New York Times. But I did

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Speaker 1: not get Silicon Valley money. Let's be clear on that um.

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Speaker 1: But there were two keys to getting these startups off

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Speaker 1: the ground, and the strategy is pretty pretty simple. Number one,

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Speaker 1: you start with a players and then scale up with

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Speaker 1: B plus players around them. And this is obvious, right,

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Speaker 1: You want to start out the best players. Sometimes you've

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Speaker 1: gotta overpay for them when you're starting to start up, right,

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Speaker 1: maybe you give them some equity in the company. And

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Speaker 1: I mean it's tough to start without the best. You

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Speaker 1: start with the best players and then you add a

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Speaker 1: great supporting cast. Now look at how the Lakers were built, Right,

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Speaker 1: They get Lebron in free agency, and the first thing

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Speaker 1: they did they made a run at Paul George. Paul

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Speaker 1: George was in Okay. See everybody thinks he's gonna leave. Okay,

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Speaker 1: see go to Lakers. He made the decision to stay

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Speaker 1: in Okay, see, and I know it beat up Paul

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Speaker 1: George a lot on this podcast lately. Obviously, in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: that was an awful decision by him. Okay, fine, we

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Speaker 1: can't really add any B plus players. We've got our cast.

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Speaker 1: Let's try it out. And you know how that worked out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they had a good run up to Christmas and Lebron

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Speaker 1: gets hurt. YadA, YadA, YadA. We need to add an

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Speaker 1: A player. They make a run at Anthony Davis at

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Okay, this is what you gotta do

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Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley. You need a players. They can't get

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Speaker 1: the A player. Pelicans won't deal, so they have to

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Speaker 1: wait until the off season. Then they trade for Anthony Davis. Now,

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Speaker 1: the funny thing about Anthony Davis is they couldn't make

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Speaker 1: a run at him as soon as Lebron got signed

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Speaker 1: because the Pelicans had just swept Portlands in the first

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Speaker 1: round and then they played the Warriors, won a game

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Speaker 1: that was the loaded Warrior team that ended up winning

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Speaker 1: the title. But early on the next season, Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: dumps his agent, goes with Rich Paul. You knew he

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Speaker 1: was gonna end up with the Lakers. They add Anthony

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Speaker 1: Davis be a trade. You unload everybody. We'll give away

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Speaker 1: everything we've got. Our foundation are to A players. And

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Speaker 1: you saw that last night Game one, Anthony Davis thirty

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Speaker 1: four nine, five assists, three blocks. I saw somebody saying

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Speaker 1: he made Bam out of Bio look like a junior

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Speaker 1: the way, got injured. You do not want to see that.

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Speaker 1: That sucks. But you're a player. Anthony Davis thirty four

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Speaker 1: being the greatest player in NBA history, lebron A ho

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Speaker 1: Home thirteen boards, nine assists. I mean, just an amazing

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Speaker 1: performance from the eight players. But you, as I said,

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Speaker 1: when you're starting the startup in Silicon Valley, you scale

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Speaker 1: up with b plus players. So what did the Lakers

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Speaker 1: scale up with. Well, they go out and who do

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Speaker 1: I know people just how Danny Green stinks. He's washed. Dude,

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Speaker 1: Danny Green was moving on defense coming around those Greens.

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Speaker 1: and what do we do? We add a guy like Morris,

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Speaker 1: Mark Keith Morris who can add some pop off the bench.

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Speaker 1: Who can we get we can add? Oh, Dwight Howard.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. Dwight Howard. Now he wasn't super effective

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Speaker 1: and honestly, he did a lot of neutralizing of bam

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Speaker 1: a model citizen. You know who else has been a

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Speaker 1: first year Lebron was there. And Rondo has been prickly

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Speaker 1: in other spots. He's feuded with teammates, he's feuded with coaches.

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Speaker 1: Go look up his incident with the MAVs where the

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Speaker 1: coach called tried to tell him the call of play

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Speaker 1: and he basically was like, bleep you in the middle

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Speaker 1: Gen Rondo, I mean, everything the Lakers have done, they've

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Speaker 1: treated this team like a startup and essentially, folks, I know,

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Speaker 1: Rob Polink is gonna get a lot of credit. Lebron

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Speaker 1: and listen, you never to overreact, but this does not

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Speaker 1: want to be the model citizen in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: They want to diffuse situations on the court. Lebron needs

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Speaker 1: a protector. My guy, Jared Dudley's gonna be out there,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean. Dwight Howard has been a model citizen.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman has gone through some ugly funks. He's not pouting.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman's his first year with the Lakers, he looked

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Speaker 1: Kuzla did not have it in Game one, one for

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Speaker 1: We've seen weaker teams mentally crumble in the bubble, the

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Speaker 1: and how bad did they want it? Lou Williams left

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Speaker 1: I don't listen. I know I made a case here

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Speaker 1: But it's tough watching Game one to think that the

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Speaker 1: thing before I brigg Rob G and let's see if

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Speaker 1: he revises his Lakers in five hashtag um. Last year,

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Speaker 1: were the greatest dynasty in modern history, better than Jordan's Bulls.

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Speaker 1: and they lose and it stinks Um, listen, we want

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Speaker 1: win the title last year of Kevin Durant Clair plan?

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Speaker 1: Come on? So if you want to talk asterix for

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Speaker 1: the Lakers for this, which I think is total ball,

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Speaker 1: last year? All right, Rob g Before you praise me

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Speaker 1: two Lakers in four? Uh? Tyler Hero, your boy minus

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Speaker 1: thirty five in Game one of the Finals. UM, six

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Speaker 1: for eighteen shooting. It don't look good. You mean Tyler Hero.

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Speaker 1: I would not include in any trade for Yannis. I

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Speaker 1: thirty five tied for the lowest plus minus by a

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Speaker 1: player in any Finals games in two thousand. That Tyler Hero.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, let's say it's not it's not his fault. Okay.

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Speaker 1: He came in when they were up thirteen in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter, and I don't want to say he fell apart,

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Speaker 1: but listen, maybe the moment was too big. Initially did

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Speaker 1: in five prediction. And because that's not on brand for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've already traded Mark Lakers in five. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well man about myself. Yeah, considering the circumstances,

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Speaker 1: a playoff team, right. The only problem that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: run it too is you got that guy down in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City there slinging the ball left and right. So

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Speaker 1: you know that's what you're gonna be battling. But look

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Speaker 1: at it. They played well against Kansas City, probably should

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Speaker 1: have won that game against Hanna City. In Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: what they did to you know, to the Ravens, it

431
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: looked like two different teams. Um. So you know, with

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Speaker 1: that all being said, they're built to have long term

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Speaker 1: success and all the guys you just named there are

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Speaker 1: gonna be there for for some time. Melvin Ingram, I

435
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Speaker 1: think just re restructure this bill, Joey Bosch's Bill, Kenneth Mary,

436
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Speaker 1: that rookie number fifty six. That dude is a straight baller.

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Speaker 1: He's explosive, he's all around the field. Obviously you lost

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Speaker 1: Chris and a couple of guys that dropped and went

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Speaker 1: down early. But look at the team. They just resigned

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Speaker 1: Austin a clerk to a longer term deal. That team

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Speaker 1: is built to be good for the next two or

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Speaker 1: three years now. Obviously you want to win now, you

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Speaker 1: you know, want to go out and put yourself in

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Speaker 1: the best position. But I wouldn't start panicking because a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys go down and you know, Tyrod's out

446
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Speaker 1: right now you got a rookie uh that needs to

447
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Speaker 1: catch up to everything. I wouldn't panic because they're built

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Speaker 1: to be a really good team for the next couple

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Speaker 1: of years. You know, and you go to your second

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Speaker 1: team that you played for, the Buffalo Bills, they've got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback I guess kind of similar to Herbert and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Uh. He took a lot of heat the

453
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Speaker 1: first couple of years I knew Jalen Ramsey Uh talked

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Speaker 1: a lot of trash, said he was a garbage quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Josh Allen just three yard games to

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Speaker 1: start the season. Kind of looks like an m v

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Speaker 1: P candidate. I'm gonna as an edge rusher. How did

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Speaker 1: you handle the scrambling, more mobile quarterbacks that we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of now with Pat mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Herbert,

460
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen as opposed to the pocket guys who I

461
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Speaker 1: don't want to say they were dying breach on but

462
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Speaker 1: like the Brady and Peyton Manning. Guys kind of are fading. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: but you know, he's another one. I don't understand how

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Speaker 1: people are surprised when you know, when the Chargers played

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Speaker 1: them back in Buffalo a couple of years ago, I

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Speaker 1: wanted that game because both of my former teage lot

467
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Speaker 1: they're playing. So I came out there and show love

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Speaker 1: and and and wanted to see my out the old organization,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to see the both teams get after it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Josh Allen before the game throw

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Speaker 1: the ball, and I'm looking at his just his mechanics,

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Speaker 1: his presidence in the way he commands it, attention and

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Speaker 1: the authority of that of that team. This This was

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Speaker 1: a guy that I knew looking at automatically that he

475
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Speaker 1: was gonna be a leader for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: now you throw a Stefon Diggs in, They're like, crap,

477
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do this guy? You know, if you

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Speaker 1: keep those guys together for the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Um in the way they're playing, Yeah, you don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong, Cam Newton is playing well. The Patients are

481
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Speaker 1: playing well. They don't They're doing things, but they're not

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Speaker 1: the same team with Tom Brady being there, They're not

483
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Speaker 1: They're not that dominant, so they actually have a chance

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Speaker 1: to win in that division, to come out on top.

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Speaker 1: I gotta talk about my favorite team, Seawan, the New

486
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Speaker 1: York Jets. Uh, listen, it's bad, it's ugly. They're oh

487
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Speaker 1: in three they play the Denver Broncos also and three. Listen.

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Speaker 1: As a longtime Jets fan, I had season tickets for

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Speaker 1: a minute. Uh, I gotta say, everything I've heard coming

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Speaker 1: out of that locker room is bad. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you know, if anything, about Adam Gaye, but I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious, how if you were on any really bad

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Speaker 1: teams when the team started slow and maybe there was

494
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Speaker 1: chatter about the coach getting fired, how do you think

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Speaker 1: or A, how did you handle that if you were

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Speaker 1: in one of those, and B how do you think

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Speaker 1: the players are dealing with it? Well? You know, I

498
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Speaker 1: call it the trickle down effects. So you got Adam

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Speaker 1: Gates there that uh, that is losing a lot of respect. Uh,

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Speaker 1: not just in the locker room, but in an organization

501
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Speaker 1: outside the organization, and how he's carrying on and some

502
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Speaker 1: of the things he's saying, and one of the things

503
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Speaker 1: that I always look at the coach in that leadership

504
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: is when things go wrong or things are bad and

505
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Speaker 1: the heat is on you, and who do you start

506
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Speaker 1: to point to blame on If you don't point to

507
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Speaker 1: blame on yourself, it shows me that you're not a

508
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Speaker 1: great coach, You're not a great leader, You're not what

509
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Speaker 1: that team is looking for. I just feel bad for

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald because this is the guy that you put

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Speaker 1: him around a great coach. You give give him some

512
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Speaker 1: some old weapons, and he can go win a lot

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Speaker 1: of games for you. And if they're they're gonna be

514
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Speaker 1: looking like this for some time now. Sam Donald needs

515
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Speaker 1: to get the hell out of there. And I would

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Speaker 1: whatever team is, uh, you know, a quarterback away from

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Speaker 1: being great, you know, go there. I would. If I

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Speaker 1: was another cheam, I would be throwing the house to

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Speaker 1: get him out of there. Whatever you guys, you want

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Speaker 1: to first round draft picks and the third take it,

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Speaker 1: give me Sam Donald. I would give that up for him,

522
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Speaker 1: because obviously he can play, and he's a bright spot

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Speaker 1: for the organization. But you know, he's about the only thing.

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Speaker 1: And I can't even blame the players because the coaches,

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Speaker 1: you know it stocks at the top and so the

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Speaker 1: coach is not willing to take responsib building and command

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Speaker 1: that team, then you're gonna lose the locker room. And

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Speaker 1: that's happening right now. Yeah, let me ask you about

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Speaker 1: the whole Donald situation. So we saw Marcus Mariotta and

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston go one too in the draft, okay, and

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Speaker 1: they each had their chance three or four or five

532
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Speaker 1: years with the organization. Mariota won one playoff game, beat

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Speaker 1: beat Casey on the road. But you know they're they're

534
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Speaker 1: deals up and they move on. Now their backups, Like

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Speaker 1: I like Donald a lot, and we think he's got potential. Uh,

536
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Speaker 1: we really don't know because this is his second coach

537
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Speaker 1: and this guy stinks. But isn't there a scenario where

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Speaker 1: three years down the road, Sam Donald's a backup along

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Speaker 1: the lines of Mariotta or Jameis Winston. The only way

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Speaker 1: he's a backup if he stays in that organization long

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Speaker 1: enough where he's tainted, where he has that uh that

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Speaker 1: dark cloud is carrying over him. And you hate to

543
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Speaker 1: see that because you know, when you got a quarterback,

544
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Speaker 1: do you know they can play? It's only a matter

545
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Speaker 1: of time before they get beat up and beat up

546
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Speaker 1: and beat up. But I'm not just talking about physically.

547
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the media hounding them and and and

548
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: people roundedly thinking that it's him and he can't play.

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Speaker 1: He's stuck in a very bad situation. I've seen that,

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Speaker 1: Uh that Juju Smith came out and saying what he said,

551
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Speaker 1: that he would love him in Pittsburgh. I thought that

552
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: was a hell of a thing to say. And there's

553
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Speaker 1: really no shot at Ben. But look, Ben got another year,

554
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: two years Max, right, So you you bring Sam Donald,

555
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Speaker 1: then you started making that transition because the stealers can

556
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Speaker 1: pick up right when they left off that where Ben

557
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Roethlisberg was playing exceptionally well. And whether it's the stealers

558
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: of somebody else, you could be you know Miami. And

559
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Fitzpatrick. I love, I love Fitzy.

560
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: I played with him the Buffalo. Oh. But you know

561
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: he's a journeyman. He's bouncing around a several teams. But

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald is a franchise quarterback and I hate to

563
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Speaker 1: see him stuck in that situation. Let me ask you

564
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Speaker 1: about another quarterback, Sean um Dak Prescott and listen, I

565
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: came out after his performance another another good, big, big

566
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Speaker 1: stats game, but it didn't come up with the victory.

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Speaker 1: I know he's down offensive lineman, I know the defense stinks,

568
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Speaker 1: but I compared him to Matt Stafford. I said, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: this guy puts up monster stats. He's always got his

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Speaker 1: team in the game, but at the end, when they

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Speaker 1: have a chance, he comes up empty. He's now six

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Speaker 1: and eighteen in the last three years against teams with

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Speaker 1: winning records. And Jerry Jones came out the next day

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Speaker 1: and was like, you know, Pat Mahomes wins these close games,

575
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Speaker 1: and Tony Romo won those close games, and it felt

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Speaker 1: like a shot at DAC. I'm curious where you come

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Speaker 1: in on, Doc. Is the Matthew Stafford thing accurate or

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Speaker 1: is he not at that level above that? And and

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on maybe Dallas whether or not they should

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Speaker 1: pay Dak. Yeah, Dak Prescott is not not a better

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Speaker 1: quarterback than Matthew Stafford. He's not. And one thing I'll

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00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: say about Dac, he's a great leader. Uh. He plays,

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Speaker 1: he lays it on the line, He'll do all the

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00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: things that you need him to do. But at the

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00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, he's an above average quarterback. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He needs offensive line, he needs a running back, and

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00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: needs a wide receiver, and he needs a defensive go

588
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: out there and played well in order from them to

589
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Speaker 1: win a championship. Matthew Stafford, in my opinion, was stuck

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Speaker 1: in a bad organization. It's it's a Sam Donald situation.

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00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: We're just finished talking about. Um, Matthew Stafford. I've seen

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Speaker 1: him throw the ball in the off season around and

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Speaker 1: then I can tell you he could slang it. He's

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Speaker 1: a He was a damn good quarterback that was stuck

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00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: into a bad situation where the work in the organization

596
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: just lost over and over again. Um, he didn't have

597
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: the best running back in football, he didn't have the

598
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: best when healthy, the best offensive line in football. And

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Speaker 1: you know defense, I think Alvin Smith right now is

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Speaker 1: leading NFL and and sacks, and you know you got

601
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Loans. They just gave a big contract too. And

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00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: and those two inside linebackers that when they're healthy that

603
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: you know the best too, tandem inside linebackers and football

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Speaker 1: this this he they bo a great team around doc.

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Speaker 1: So they should be good for nine to ten games

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Speaker 1: minimum winning every year, just by the just by the

607
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: team that they built. Sometimes it's the coaches. So listen

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00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: a lot of the former NFL players, they come out

609
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and all they do is say positive stuff. I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sean Merriman, he will keep it real. So

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Speaker 1: I want you to give me the most underrated quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league right now and the most overrated. Well

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Speaker 1: that's you can. You can. You can mention your boy Rivers.

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Speaker 1: I know you like Rivers. He's got a big game

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00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: this weekend again against the Bears. Well, you know, Rivers,

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Speaker 1: I think just just hit that four hundred touchdown record, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in order to do that, that's that's just incredible. Um.

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Speaker 1: But you know, he had one one bad game so

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Speaker 1: far this year, so I can't really paneling him too much.

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Speaker 1: In it's it's really hard to say. I think that. Um,

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Speaker 1: then that maybe Matt Ryan has been overrated, you know, um,

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00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: because they've just blown so many late game leads and

623
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Speaker 1: given up. And I know that you can hop on

624
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: the coach all you want to, but those are games

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00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: that they should have won. Um, you know it's underrated.

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00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: It's it's I don't know, man, it's a bunch of

627
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: guys that um you Joe, look at I look at

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00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Joe Barrow. I mean, this is another this is another

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Speaker 1: guy that's this Uh. I know he's a rookie or whatnot,

630
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: but I think he's he might be also stuck in

631
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: the organization where you know, they're not putting the tools

632
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: and the and the things around him and not to

633
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: guad and went football games and he's gonna be there

634
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: taking a beating a little bit. So I don't know, man,

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00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: it's I don't. I never really call guys underrated. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, overrated as much because you know, you got

637
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: these people on the street that just say, oh, you know, uh,

638
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: that guy sucks right. Well, let me tell you that

639
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: second of third string quarterback is the best quarterback that

640
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: you'll ever meet in your life. That third string. So

641
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't, I don't really say overrated guys.

642
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: But you know, when I look at the Falcons and

643
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: and some of the games they've blown this year, um,

644
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you can put some of them in

645
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: the coach and the decision making uh there. But you know,

646
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan got to step it up, man, he really does.

647
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: And it's and it's different than basketball, where there's only

648
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: five guys and the star is reliant upon everything. I

649
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: mean football, special teams. You know, defense matters, coaching, and

650
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: I want you you hit on something interesting, um sean

651
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: these bad organizations, you know, if you get drafted into

652
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: a bad one and the owner stinks, doesn't care. The

653
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: coaches are constantly being rotated. Are you surprised we don't

654
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: see more NFL players kind of demand their way out

655
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: of town the way we see in the National Basketball Association.

656
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna start happening. I think it's gonna

657
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: start happening something, especially with the bigger contracts and guarantee

658
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: contracts and those things happening. Um you know, typically in

659
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: the past new football, it's out of sight, out of

660
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: mind and come and go. It's you know, you don't

661
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: have a lot of say so and what happens with

662
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: your career, and those things are changing. You know, guys

663
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes is changing the game, you know, signing

664
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: those big deals like that, than you know, he's gonna

665
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: have more say so in that organization of what happens

666
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: to the future that organization than anybody has before in

667
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: the past. You know, you signed a seven or eight

668
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: year deal, how a long that deal was for close

669
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: to a half a billion dollars. Yeah, you can. You

670
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: can be a little bit more vocal about what's going on.

671
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: So I think that that's gonna happen. Um, and guys

672
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: are gonna get vocal. And then two, because fans and

673
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: the people watching the game are understanding the business aspect,

674
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: it would have happened. These guys aren't gonna be called

675
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: cry babies anymore. Or you're ungrateful. No, it's like no, Yes,

676
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: Sam Donald complains about getting out of the Jet organization.

677
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: He might have a valid point. Hell he can play.

678
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Let's let him go place where us we can win.

679
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: So before we tape Sean, I was reading up about

680
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: your background and you know, I met you in the studio.

681
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: You are a large human being, you know what six

682
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: five to fifty. I mean, you're jacked. And I was

683
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: reading about your nickname lights out, um, and that you

684
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: got it from like a high school football game where

685
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: you were just terrorizing the other team. I mean, do

686
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: you actually remember that you said PG county right, yeah,

687
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: Prince George's County. Yeah I do. Um. And you know

688
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: the funniest thing is is that YouTube and all the

689
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Internet and social media wasn't big back then. And uh

690
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: and and I'm glad it wasn't because I was, I

691
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't probably be allowed in the field today, uh you know,

692
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: in today's game, because uh, yeah, I knocked out four

693
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: guys to my sophomore in high school. And I never yeah,

694
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: I never forget that. I had about twenty students come

695
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: running up to me after the game, said, oh, you

696
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: knocked those guys lights out, And I just simply blurt

697
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: it out and said, hey, just you called me legs out.

698
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: And that stuck with me through high school, the rest

699
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: of high school and the rest of college and then

700
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: to the pros. Four guys and you were playing what

701
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: defensive end or tackle or No, I was a hundred

702
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: and seventy eight pound middle linebacker. Hundred seven and that's

703
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: still pretty big. And in sophomore in high school, was

704
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: it the speed or were you as tall as six

705
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: four back then? Yeah? I was six ft one seventy

706
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: eight and I was flying around like a safety. And

707
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: you know this is where I say the separate guys

708
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: all the time, right, it's ex separate guys. It's not

709
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: the athleticism, it's not the speed and power and those things.

710
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: It's your mentality. It's it's the way you play the game.

711
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: And I played the game the way it was supposed

712
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: to be played. Play sideline, the sideline. And if you

713
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: go back and watch anyone in my films, I'm going

714
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: over the top of every pile and I'm finishing every

715
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: play and diving to scratching this ground. And then that

716
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: was that was my attitude. Man. I wanted people to

717
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: when you turn on the film and you watched on,

718
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: I was moving at a different speed and I was

719
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: willing to go through another man no matter what. And

720
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: where do you think you got that mentality? Sorry? Well,

721
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: for one, you know, I grew up in PG County,

722
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: man we um. You know, we was left homeless a

723
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: few different times. We had lost our house to fires.

724
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I've grown up and I lived in

725
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: shelters and back the cars, and and for me, it

726
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: was it was a mentality that I didn't I never

727
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to that place again. I never

728
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: wanted had to fight and come home. And I know,

729
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: if your lights was gonna be on, you didn't have

730
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: food on the table, if you know, you had to

731
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: go and borrow money from somebody to eat. And so

732
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: when you grow up with that, uh that that that mentality,

733
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: it lingers and it stays with you to uh to

734
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: just kind of let it all out in the field,

735
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: like that was my escapegoat those two hours. I hadn't

736
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: practice in my high school coaches if you reached out

737
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: to them now, and they would tell you the same thing.

738
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: It was certain days they would not let me hit

739
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: with my teammates because I had one speed and they

740
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: didn't want me to injury anybody. And those all the

741
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: true stories I wouldn't, you know. And I still talked

742
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to all my high school teammates and coaches, and that

743
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: was just my mentality and my approach to the game. So,

744
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: so were your Was your dad a football player of

745
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: any kinder? You know my dad? So I didn't know

746
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: my dad much growing up, but my dad ran track

747
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: in high school. My mom played basketball, So I kind

748
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: of got the mix of those two. And out of

749
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: the blue, I was playing basketball first. I was following

750
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: out of every damn game, and the basketball coach said,

751
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: you know what, we got a board for you, Well

752
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: you won't file out. So I tried out football, and uh,

753
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: I just knew I was home. What was your position?

754
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: And when you were playing basketball. I was a small

755
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: sport and power for it. Um. Actually, I played all

756
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: the way through high school. I was All defensive team

757
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: and we actually I played in the same through the

758
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: same AU as a lot of Michael Beasley and Kevin Durant.

759
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: We all came from the same area. We all played,

760
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: came through played for DC Assault, UM, which a lot

761
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: of people know back home in in PG County, so

762
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: we all we I played basketball first, man, I was, Uh,

763
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't like compairing myself. If I was anybody, I

764
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: was like Ben Wallace, right, I was, I was gonna

765
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: get you get Tendor twelve points, you know, Tendor twelve

766
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: boards and some blocks and stills and or whatnot. So

767
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: I made the all defensive team, and um, you know

768
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: PG County in the d m V area, it's flooded

769
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: with basketball toiland, so well, to be up there with

770
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: those guys and be able to play on the teams

771
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: and compete, man, was was fun. Yeah, I'm I'm from

772
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: the Northern Virginia area, so I'm very familiar with that. Obviously,

773
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't an a AU basketball player, but so so,

774
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: when did you make the transition from basketball to let

775
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: me just go football. It was a coach saying, dude,

776
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: you fel too much. Oh yeah, it was I didn't

777
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: have a choice. It was like, you might be a

778
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: little too angry for this sport over here. Let's let

779
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: me try you over some somewhere where you can let

780
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: out samga. So I think I was around eleven years old,

781
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: tenor eleven years old when I kind of I became

782
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: like a dual sport type of deal. Um. You know,

783
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: I thought about wrestling in high school because it was,

784
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: you know, another thing I wanted to really get good at.

785
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: My wrestling coach still we still talked to this day about, man,

786
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: you should have wrestled, because obviously I meant to Emma May.

787
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: Now I got my IMAM League with Lightside Extreme Fighting

788
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: also over there on Fox Sports that Fox Sports picked

789
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: up last May. So, um, you know I just finished

790
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: barring right now I go and I you know, get me. Um. Well,

791
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: actually the day I had some grappling and rolling around.

792
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: So I got about an hour and twenty minutes on

793
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the mat, which is which is hell. So it is

794
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: that at one of the let's for you to get

795
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: rid of some of that anger, or has the anger

796
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: subsided now that you're you know, into your thirties. No,

797
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: So this is what I tell a lot of guys,

798
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: and we have in my leagual Lights Out Extreme Fight,

799
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: we have guys transitioning over from football, uh and other

800
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: sports into m m A. And I've always wanted to

801
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: bridge that gap. And that that's why the Lights Out

802
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: podcast now because me being able to talk about this

803
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: stuff because I was training. Actually I started training m

804
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: m A with Jay Glazer between two thousand five and

805
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I walked in there. He wanted

806
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: to show me some things, and I'll never forgave me

807
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: walking in there in the first day of me trying

808
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: to learn some m and ay, I walked in Randy

809
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: coatur wards there and so I said, hold on, I

810
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: hope you don't think and I'm getting here and spawing

811
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: randytre today. That's just not gonna happen. Uh So anyway,

812
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: I just you know, it was so many similarities and

813
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: so many things that you can translate from the m

814
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: m A from the sport of them and may to football,

815
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: using your hands, being violent with your hands and using

816
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: your leverage as a pass rusher. Um. Really, why I

817
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: came out in that two thousand six years because I

818
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: just got really really good with my hands and nothing

819
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: like that stamming in there. You're not hot runing, you're

820
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: grappling and you're rolling around and you're punching and you're

821
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, all this stuff. It Trent, It was easy

822
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: for me to make that transition. So now with with

823
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: lights out extreme fighting with Miami and may League, we

824
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: have right now like Chris McCain who played for the Charges,

825
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: played defensive and he played for Miami and and I

826
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: think he had I think had a short stent with

827
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: the coast there. Uh, he's a three and o amateur,

828
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, in in my league. And I think that

829
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: if he if he stays on on the course of

830
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: doing what he's doing, you know, you're looking at the

831
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: next Jon Jones. I mean, he has that type of ability.

832
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be more guys. I've talked to you.

833
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: I talked to one or two guys a week about

834
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, getting into combat sports. And then most importantly,

835
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: the big thing I talked to about guys, we've been

836
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere, in the locker room atmosphere for fifteen

837
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: plus years. You're around the team. And if you talk

838
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: to any former athlete, the first thing they'll tell you

839
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: one thing they missed about the game is being in

840
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: locker room with the teams, being in practice after game,

841
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: being on the team bus, and being on the team playing.

842
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: They'll tell you that that's what they missed the most.

843
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: And when you're done, that part of it is gone,

844
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: is not there anymore. You don't have that camaraderie. So

845
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: getting into a combat sport not only one of your competing,

846
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: but you're around guys again. You know, I'm in there

847
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: and I'm sparring different guys, I'm rolling around with different guys.

848
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: You fifteen twenty different people um in one room and

849
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: you get that uh best filling again and it just

850
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, gives you something to compete to keep everything

851
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: else going. Wow. Congrats Sewn, that's awesome man, and congrats

852
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: on the league in the new podcast. Obviously your great career.

853
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: And now thanks for taking the time today to jump

854
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: on straight Fire. Thanks a lot, man, I appreciate it.

855
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching

856
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Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. Here's

857
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Speaker 1: your best bet. All right, it's time for the best

858
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: bet here Thursday Night football, and when it involves my team,

859
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a little bit longer than normal. My

860
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Uh, Folks, Like, I don't know how

861
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: to put this politely, but just talking about the Jets

862
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: makes me really freaking angry. You know. It's one thing

863
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: when you go into the season with optimism that happens

864
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: every year. It's another when three weeks in you know

865
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: the season's over and there's gonna be changes, and there

866
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: needs to be changes. But the problem is you're basically

867
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: pressing the damn reset button. So I think I've told

868
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: this story before. I don't know about on the podcast,

869
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: but certainly on my Saturday radio show. So back when

870
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: I had the big lead and I was like on

871
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: the come up or whatever, I started a podcast. That

872
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: was when that Steph Curry was my first ever guest.

873
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: This was before Steph Curry had won a title and

874
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: MVP any of that stuff. He was in his earl,

875
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: maybe his third or fourth year, right around the time

876
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: he signed that eighty four million dollar extension that turned

877
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: out to be like the the greatest um on the

878
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: cheap extension ever and it helped the Warriors load up.

879
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I started to bring on Jets beat writers onto my podcast,

880
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: and I was beaten up the Jets because I was upset,

881
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: and the New York Jets must have noticed, because one

882
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: day I go to the mailbox and I get something

883
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: from the New York Jets and it is season tickets,

884
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: four of them, and two parking passes for the entire season.

885
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Now there's still some discussion internally, meaning in my head, um,

886
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: whether or not this was a mistake. Um. And it's

887
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: funny because I had to find someone who had season

888
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: tickets for the Jets, take a picture of my tickets,

889
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: send it to and be like, yo, is this legit?

890
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, that's real. Um. What may have happened?

891
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: And this is just speculation I've never followed up is

892
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: um the big lead was under the purview of USA Today.

893
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: They were at the time renting the website with the

894
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: option to buy, and USA Today had some kind of

895
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: deal marketing deal with either the Jets or the Giants

896
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: or both. And I suppose they were sending tickets to

897
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: USA Today and somehow they got rerouted to me or

898
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: someone and maybe at USA Today knew and said, hey,

899
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Jason's the Jets fan, let's send him to him or

900
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: the Jets made the executive call. I don't know. It's

901
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: water under the bridge. Bottom line, I love this team.

902
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: This is my favorite sports team to root for. I

903
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: like the Lakers a lot, I like the Knicks a lot.

904
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: Jets on my team. I was born in New York,

905
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: grew up in d C. And everybody in the d

906
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: C area loved the Washington Redskins. I said, no, I'm

907
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not. I've never been to follow the

908
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: crowd guy ever in my life in anything, and so

909
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: I rode the Jets. At the time, it was Kenny O'Brien,

910
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: al Tuon, Wesley Walker, Mark Gastineau, the New York Sack Exchange.

911
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I love those Jets teams. A lot of losses, a

912
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: lot of failure and what I've developed some contacts in

913
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: and around the team. I'll just leave it at that.

914
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Jets fans and sports media, So

915
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: maybe I got lucky. What I've heard. If the Jet

916
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: to lose this game, Adam Gays will be fired within

917
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: forty eight hours after the defeat. Forty eight hours if

918
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: the Jets lose to Brett Ripping, that's the starter for dinner.

919
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: If the Jets lose this game, Gaze is toast. He

920
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: not only has lost the locker room, but he's most

921
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: concerning Lee lost the front office because if you remember,

922
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: Adam Gaye said, yeah, let's bring in Joe Douglas. I

923
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: know him, I like him. Let's go. Joe Douglas comes

924
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: over from Philly where he helped build the Eagles into

925
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: a pretty nice title contender. Not only do they win

926
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, they kept going to the playoffs. They

927
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: had an awesome roster. And it's funny you look at

928
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles this year, oh two and one, and it's like, oh,

929
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: their front office keeps getting poached, and they're coaching staff

930
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: keeps getting poached, and now it's just Doug Peterson and

931
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and they don't look as good at any rate.

932
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't have a name yet for the Jets job.

933
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm told Eric the enemy is not going to be

934
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: the guy a aparently, and Eric b enemy is. I

935
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: don't know about ticketed but locked into the Atlanta Falcons

936
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they go down um to

937
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: the Packers this weekend. If Dan Quinn gets gets fired.

938
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: But I'm told Eric b Enemy is the clubhouse leader

939
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: by a mile there. And hopefully I'll have some names

940
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: for you later, uh after Gays has fired, if the

941
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: Jets loses, and and I'll be able to come up

942
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: with some names. But I actually am betting on the

943
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Jets in this game. So it's it's a weird conflicted thing.

944
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: I kind of want Gays to be gone because he

945
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: hasn't done any of the right things. He never says

946
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: the right thing. He blames others, as Sean Merriman said earlier,

947
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: instead of blaming himself. Um, this offensive genius label as

948
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: a joke. Uh. The offense is pedestrian. I know they

949
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: don't have skilled position players. I got it. Um there,

950
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: the g M Douglas is undoing what the previous guy did.

951
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: And you know there their second round pick, Denzel Min's.

952
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: They were expecting a lot from him this year. Hasn't

953
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: played a freaking snap because of an injury. Um. And again,

954
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: if you look at my tweets in like the middle

955
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: of August, I said, Denzel Mims is the serious injury

956
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: to worry about. People were like, hey, he's practicing. You

957
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. Okay, fine, I'm just

958
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: I told you back in the middle of August, Denzel

959
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: Mims is hurt. That's the thing that is not good.

960
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: And here we are October one. Mims hasn't played a

961
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: snap anyways. I am taking the Jets because, frankly, folks,

962
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they can lose this game. There's just

963
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: no way. The players have too much pride to lose

964
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: to Brett Rippon. And I had to do my homework

965
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: on Brett Rippon. Of course, he's not the son of

966
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Mark Rippen, the former Washington Redskins quarterback who won a

967
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's the nephew of Mark Rippon. Rippon was

968
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: of course the Super Bowl m v P when they

969
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: beat the Broncos. Like ten no, no, that was Doug Williams.

970
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my bad ripping. I forget who they beat,

971
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: but um, I think it was one maybe um Brett Rippon.

972
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: His father was a minor league pitcher with the Blue Jays.

973
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Um and Brett Rippon went to Boise State and was

974
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. He won a lot of games. This

975
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: guy's a four year starter is funny story. He goes

976
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: in as a true freshman. The starter goes down. You

977
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: guys are familiar with his name, Ryan Finley, and Brett

978
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: Rippon refuses to give up the job he played so well,

979
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: So Finley ends up transferring, transferring to NC State. He

980
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: then gets into the NFL and Brett Rippon lo and behold,

981
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: here we are. He's in the league, and uh, there's

982
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: very little tape on him. Um, he played I don't

983
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: know what at twenty snaps or something like that against

984
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: the Broncos. So there is a chance that with no

985
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: tape he comes in and stunts the New York Jets.

986
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: But with Courtland Sutton out, your number one receiver, Philip

987
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: Lindsay is practicing. I don't know if he's going to

988
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: play tonight at the time we're recording this, it's unknown. Um,

989
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, mel Melvin Gordon is a good running back.

990
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm on my fantasy team. But you're down your number

991
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: one receiver, your number two running back, and your offensive

992
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: line is real shaky. They couldn't protect Driscoll at all.

993
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Uh last week. It reminds me of a great line

994
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: from The Last Boy Scout Super Underrated Damon Wayne's Bruce

995
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: Willis movie. You couldn't protect a couple of warm piss

996
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: really classic line in the Strip club where Hallie Barry

997
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: was dancing. Yes, I've seen The Last Boy Scout seventy

998
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: five times. Awesome movie. At any rate. I've gone off

999
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: on a tangent here. The Jets should be able to

1000
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: get to Brett Rippon, and I got them at plus three.

1001
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: It was juiced on Monday. I was like, come on, really,

1002
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: Jeff driscoll favorite on the road now was a juiced

1003
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: plus three. Um, so that's already in the camp. But

1004
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: for the purposes the best that I can't give out

1005
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: plus three because it's not available as I see it now,

1006
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: the Jets are plus one. I'm taking him. You might

1007
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: as will take him on the money line. Don't let

1008
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: me down, Jets, That's all I gotta say. Just I mean,

1009
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: and they actually let me down. If you listen to

1010
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: this whole rand about the Jets. They let me down

1011
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: if they win, because then Gaze gets stay of execution.

1012
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: So should I be rooting for them to lose? It's

1013
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: really difficult. My pick is the Jets cover plus one.

1014
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: Maybe three loss would be awesome. So that's the best

1015
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: bet for tonight. Everybody. Enjoy the game. We'll talk to

1016
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: you tomorrow,