Speaker 1: Hello, everybody out there in the podcast universe or pod
Speaker 1: verse as I just now named it. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of the Office Deep Dive. As always, it's me,
Speaker 1: that's right, your host, Brian Baumgartner, coming at you with
Speaker 1: a very special end of the year addition of the podcast.
Speaker 1: Because we did it, guys, we made it through another year,
Speaker 1: and as a New Year's treat, today, I've got another
Speaker 1: call in episode lined up for you, because look, I'll
Speaker 1: admit it, I can't get enough of you. That's what
Speaker 1: she said. Uh, but I mean that truly. It has
Speaker 1: been so incredible to hear from you and talk to you.
Speaker 1: So thank you all of you who reached out. We
Speaker 1: got so many calls. Thank you for taking the time
Speaker 1: to connect with us. And you know what, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go right into it. Yeah. So I would like
Speaker 1: to welcome right now you, my listeners, to the very
Speaker 1: last episode of one, an episode starring well you. So
Speaker 1: let's see who do we have calling in today? Bubble
Speaker 1: and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on Bubble
Speaker 1: and Squeaker cooking every month, lift over from the night before.
Speaker 1: How's it going, Brian? Thank you for having me on
Speaker 1: this show. This is very nice. It's lovely to see you. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I have a question about Kevin here throughout the whole show,
Speaker 1: Kevin got way dumber. You know, in the first like
Speaker 1: one episode, not one episodes, one season, second season he
Speaker 1: was stupid, yes, slow, yeah, but he seemed to morph
Speaker 1: into this borderline mentally disabled person. And I was just
Speaker 1: curious because that you now, you call it out, but
Speaker 1: what Oscar and Angela called out when you're talking with
Speaker 1: the you know, why use big word when small word
Speaker 1: do trick? You know, he's gotten worse over the years.
Speaker 1: But I was just curious if that is was an
Speaker 1: intentional thing done by either you or the writing staff,
Speaker 1: or if it just morphed over the nine years that
Speaker 1: you guys were on air into that and if that
Speaker 1: was a consciousness acsion that you made to make him
Speaker 1: done more slowly, or if it just you kind of
Speaker 1: got more into the character as a story went on
Speaker 1: and that was actually how the character was supposed to
Speaker 1: play the entire time. Uh yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake your hand now, shake Jake, Jake, we
Speaker 1: just shook hands. Can you believe it? Mom? All right, bye?
Speaker 1: We just shook hands. Nick, thank you for your question. Look,
Speaker 1: this has been brought up a lot, especially if you
Speaker 1: go onto the deep dark web that has read it.
Speaker 1: Um the original character description of Kevin when they were casting,
Speaker 1: the casting noticed said, the only thing remarkable about Kevin
Speaker 1: is that he is remarkably unremarkable. So that's where we
Speaker 1: started from, and I think we found over time that
Speaker 1: there were, in fact some remarkable things about Kevin. So yes,
Speaker 1: Kevin morphs. Really it was the writing. The writer's fell
Speaker 1: in love with let's just call it Kevin's childlike sensibility.
Speaker 1: And so my nerdy I've talked about this before, but
Speaker 1: my nerdy actory justification for this was when the camera crew.
Speaker 1: When the documentary crew began to film dunder Mifflin, Kevin
Speaker 1: was very nervous and much more reserved. And then as
Speaker 1: he became more comfortable with the cameras being in the office,
Speaker 1: maybe he went out with a beer or two with
Speaker 1: some of the crew guys, more of his true personality
Speaker 1: came out. Now that's my justification. I think the reality
Speaker 1: was the writer's fell in love with that sort of
Speaker 1: childlike sensibility and leaned into it. Also, Kevin was used
Speaker 1: as one of the characters for physical comedy, which has
Speaker 1: a tendency to well, let's just say dumb up a character. Uh.
Speaker 1: And in fact, when Steve Carrell left, I was told
Speaker 1: by Paul Lieberstein and some of the other writers that
Speaker 1: they were going to even more lean into Kevin and
Speaker 1: physical comedy because Steve Carrell was gone, who was helming
Speaker 1: a lot of the physical comedy. So there's the answer. Nick.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really conscious, but it did evolve because of
Speaker 1: how the writers were writing the role. So he started
Speaker 1: as remarkably unremarkable and I think he ended, um, well,
Speaker 1: something quite different. But thanks Nick, and here's here's your
Speaker 1: handshake back. Hi, Brian, my name is Randy. I live
Speaker 1: in Santa Rosa, California. Big fan of the Office, of course,
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you my three grandsons are also
Speaker 1: their ages twelve, fifteen, and eighteen. They also loved the show.
Speaker 1: And Um, I was wondering how many takes typical scene
Speaker 1: would would be done. I guess it would depend on
Speaker 1: the different directors. Um, there seems to be so much
Speaker 1: going on in a scene, so many different people involved
Speaker 1: in a given scene, that to do very many takes
Speaker 1: would be kind of hard. So what would you say
Speaker 1: the average number of takes was for a scene. Well, thanks, Randy,
Speaker 1: And let me tell you on a personal note, the
Speaker 1: fact that you're a grandfather and you're a fan of
Speaker 1: the show, and you have grandkids that are fans of
Speaker 1: the show. I think that is well to quote Kevin awesome.
Speaker 1: You know, that's an impossible question to answer. It really
Speaker 1: depended upon the complexity of the scene. And as you said,
Speaker 1: the number of people, and actually the number of people
Speaker 1: that were in a scene increased the number of takes
Speaker 1: that would be required to shoot it because they needed
Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody was covered. Um, largely, it
Speaker 1: depended on two factors. One, how many takes were lost
Speaker 1: because people were laughing. That is just that is just
Speaker 1: the truth. And I my mind goes to the conference
Speaker 1: room scenes and Steve Correll, Michael Scott at the front
Speaker 1: scenes like prison Mike, those were incredibly difficult. The more
Speaker 1: improv that he and others did that caught the rest
Speaker 1: of us off balance. The smiles and the laughs came.
Speaker 1: So that was one And to how much improv was done.
Speaker 1: So because we were shooting the show for NBC, a
Speaker 1: mega conglomerate corporation. You know, everything we said had to
Speaker 1: be approved. So the script as written was always shot
Speaker 1: because if it if it wasn't on the page, we
Speaker 1: may not get approval for it, and then we would
Speaker 1: be in trouble. So everything as written was shot because
Speaker 1: it was had been approved by the network and this
Speaker 1: band of people called standards and practices, which ensure that
Speaker 1: nothing naughty gets on the air, or at least not
Speaker 1: too naughty. Um. But then we were always every scene
Speaker 1: we were given a free pass, a pass to play
Speaker 1: and improv and depending on how successful the scene was working,
Speaker 1: depending on how successful actors were able to improvise or
Speaker 1: writers were able to pitch new jokes, the scene would
Speaker 1: happen more. But you know, because of that, that's why
Speaker 1: on the DVD s and now on Peacock, there are
Speaker 1: so many additional scenes that were that were cut. Our
Speaker 1: first assembly they called it was about forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: and when you think about running time on NBC, that
Speaker 1: was twenty two minutes. So on average we had a
Speaker 1: double episode shot and then they had to cut it
Speaker 1: down to twenty two. I know that's not an answer, Randy,
Speaker 1: exactly how many takes just remember this the chili scene.
Speaker 1: One take. That's really all you need to know. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 1: this is Steve Schrader listening to your podcast today. I
Speaker 1: heard about, um your request here from listeners, so this
Speaker 1: is my first I'd like to say. I guess is one. UM.
Speaker 1: I love your podcast, big fan, obviously, big fan of
Speaker 1: the Office. UM you were also I've already pre um
Speaker 1: bought the book, re ordered the book, and UM, you're
Speaker 1: kind of enough to do a cameo for my wife
Speaker 1: for her birthday, I want to say, a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago now UM with chili, So thank you. So
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. UM my question is to you,
Speaker 1: and there is no certainly no one besides you that
Speaker 1: could play Kevin. But I'm always interested in what the
Speaker 1: actor themselves think of who would they like to see
Speaker 1: try to play that character if it wasn't them. So
Speaker 1: that's my question to you. UM, if if it wasn't
Speaker 1: you playing Kevin, hard to even think of anybody else
Speaker 1: playing you, who would you think you would like to
Speaker 1: see or who you know maybe several people you would
Speaker 1: like to see like Kevin. Thank you, bye, Hey Steve,
Speaker 1: thank you for your question. By the way, you hit
Speaker 1: the Triumvirent All right, you're a fan of the podcast,
Speaker 1: which I can't thank you enough for. You now have
Speaker 1: the book. I hope you enjoy it. By the way,
Speaker 1: as I speak right now, four weeks in a row
Speaker 1: on the New York Times bestseller list. So I want
Speaker 1: to thank not just you, but everybody who has supported
Speaker 1: the book. It's so exciting to me personally that so
Speaker 1: many people are are reading it, are reading what I wrote.
Speaker 1: And then of course CAMEO, thank you for your support
Speaker 1: there as well. So who else would I like to
Speaker 1: see play? Kevin George Clooney, I think would be my answer,
Speaker 1: But I don't know Steve. That's so difficult. But I
Speaker 1: will tell you a story. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this. When Steve Carrell left the show, we had
Speaker 1: a big party and Alison Jones, are amazing casting director,
Speaker 1: came up to me and she said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was looking for some mementos to give Steve, you
Speaker 1: know now that he's he's leaving. I didn't find something
Speaker 1: that great, but I thought you would be interested in this.
Speaker 1: And it was a single sheet of paper with three names.
Speaker 1: It said Kevin Malone and then it was the three
Speaker 1: actors that in the end they were considering for the role,
Speaker 1: and it was myself, it was Eric stone Street, and
Speaker 1: it was Jorge Garcia. Eric stone Street obviously went on
Speaker 1: to Modern Family, Jorge Garcia went on to Lost, amongst
Speaker 1: other things. Um, and I framed that piece of paper
Speaker 1: and it is it is. It is in my office
Speaker 1: because I think it's so cool and I'm such a
Speaker 1: fan of both of them. So who knows, you could
Speaker 1: have had Eric stone Street or Jorge Garcia as Kevin
Speaker 1: Malone on The Office. Um, but that's who could have
Speaker 1: done it. Who I want? Who I would have wanted
Speaker 1: to do it? Yeah, Yeah, George Clooney, Hello Office Deep Dive,
Speaker 1: and hello Brian, So good to talk to you. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the podcast. Obviously a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the Office. My name is Kendrick, And I just
Speaker 1: had a question that I've always been wondering ever since
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, and that question is how do
Speaker 1: the actors and I guess anybody working on the set
Speaker 1: de stress after stressful moments during filming, because I bet
Speaker 1: there was a lot of stressful times during filming the
Speaker 1: show and moments that people would feel stressed you know,
Speaker 1: including you or any other actor, and I just want
Speaker 1: to know what your methods were, what other actors methods
Speaker 1: are when these times are stressful. I mean, do you
Speaker 1: just go to your trailer and meditate or do you
Speaker 1: do exercise? Like what do you do on set there
Speaker 1: when you start to feel stressed? Thank you so much, Kendre.
Speaker 1: Great question, Thank you for listening. Look, I might be
Speaker 1: a little different. I'll tell you this. How I d
Speaker 1: stress in my normal life now is I play golf.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion about me and golf,
Speaker 1: and I play as much golf as I can. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it's not as much as I would like. But but
Speaker 1: I always say that for the four hours or whatever
Speaker 1: that I'm out there, for me, I become singularly focused
Speaker 1: on one thing, which is getting the ball in the hole.
Speaker 1: That's what she said. I don't know that wasn't even intentional, um,
Speaker 1: but that's all I think about. So everything else that's
Speaker 1: going on in work or in personal life or whatever else,
Speaker 1: it goes away for the time that I'm out there,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as i'm done, I'm sort of
Speaker 1: back to it. So I tell you that because similarly
Speaker 1: on the office. It wasn't a out going and being
Speaker 1: alone or meditating because I think my feeble brain would
Speaker 1: just ruminate on whatever was stressing me out. And and look,
Speaker 1: we were there twelve to fourteen hours a day for
Speaker 1: five days, which is a long time, and it becomes
Speaker 1: difficult to get anything else done. The fatigue sets in
Speaker 1: at times because of our schedule. We were doing twelve
Speaker 1: episodes in a row, which is very rare in television.
Speaker 1: It stresses everybody out. You know, you have to find
Speaker 1: props for the next episode, the writers have to keep
Speaker 1: up with scripts. All of those things have to happen.
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I played Madden Football. That's
Speaker 1: what I did. I played John Madden Football with John
Speaker 1: Krasinski over lunch. And that doesn't seem like a d stressor.
Speaker 1: But again for me, during that thirty minutes, thirty to
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, my focus was just on beating John.
Speaker 1: That's it, beating John and not there was nothing else
Speaker 1: going on in my head. So there's your answer. John
Speaker 1: Madden football the greatest D stresser for this actor on
Speaker 1: the Office. And thank you so much for doing the
Speaker 1: Office deep dive. It was fantastic hearing all the interviews,
Speaker 1: and I'm stoked to hear that you're coming out with
Speaker 1: a new podcast. Well, The Office meant so much to
Speaker 1: me because during my darkest times, with times when I
Speaker 1: was feeling down, the Office was my happy place. I've
Speaker 1: watched The Office all the way through, probably nine or
Speaker 1: ten times. I've got to the point where I've stopped counting.
Speaker 1: But the one funny story, You're really interesting thing that
Speaker 1: I really wanted to bring up is that from my
Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday, the Dirty thirty, I had no idea that
Speaker 1: this was happening, but I happened to be wearing my
Speaker 1: dunder Mifflin T shirt and my wife brought me over
Speaker 1: to my friend's house, who I thought was a party
Speaker 1: for somebody else, and it turned out that it was
Speaker 1: a surprise birthday party that was Office. Them had the
Speaker 1: banner that says it is your birthday. All the food
Speaker 1: was Office themed pizza by Alfredo and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was fantastic. But the coolest thing,
Speaker 1: the icing on the cake, was that I had no
Speaker 1: idea that Cameo was a thing, and my wife said, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got something for you, and they turned on the
Speaker 1: TV and it was a cameo video of you sending
Speaker 1: me a birthday message, and I don't know, I'm getting
Speaker 1: emotional thinking about it, but it was so cool. I
Speaker 1: had no idea that that was happening, and just to uh,
Speaker 1: to see your face and tell me happy birthday, Happy
Speaker 1: Dirty thirty. That was fantastic and it really was a
Speaker 1: highlight of my life, really, and I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you for that. And um, I enjoyed the podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks Sam, thank you so much. It means a lot
Speaker 1: for you to tell me that story. You know, people
Speaker 1: ask me about the work I do on cameo all
Speaker 1: the time, and it's stories like that that that make
Speaker 1: me keep doing it. Um, I appreciate it. Look, I
Speaker 1: what I try to do is is not making about me,
Speaker 1: but it's it's about It's about you, Sam. It's it's
Speaker 1: your birthday, it's your graduation, it's your wedding. And if
Speaker 1: that brings you to a moment in time that you
Speaker 1: remember the show, that you have fond memories about Kevin
Speaker 1: Malone or any of the other actors or scenes or
Speaker 1: moments on the show, if that brings you to a
Speaker 1: happy place, well Sam, then I'm happy. So thanks for
Speaker 1: telling me that story. My best to you and thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and yeah, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna be back baby in two with even more podcast fun. Yeah. Hi, Brian.
Speaker 1: So I had a situation at work that arose the
Speaker 1: day after I listened to your Part three episode with
Speaker 1: Greg Daniels. And in that episode, Greg mentioned a situation
Speaker 1: that arose when Chili's said they would not let you
Speaker 1: produce the episode if Pam was was drunk and intoxicated
Speaker 1: and I guess threw up in the episode. They said
Speaker 1: they would not let you produce that episode, and um,
Speaker 1: Greg turned to Steve, and Steve basically figured it out
Speaker 1: as a creative improv person. He said, Okay, we can
Speaker 1: do this, we can figure this out. So at my job,
Speaker 1: I am a theater artist and actually a dance teacher
Speaker 1: and a theater artist, and so we are putting together
Speaker 1: a dance concert for the weekend and we get some
Speaker 1: props from our technical director that just don't work, and
Speaker 1: we have a couple of days before the show opens
Speaker 1: and not a lot of time to rehearse with them.
Speaker 1: So I was starting to get very frustrated, and instead
Speaker 1: of letting myself get super frustrated that that episode just
Speaker 1: clicked into my brain. It's like I had just listened
Speaker 1: to it and it went I thought, be Steve Correll
Speaker 1: in this moment, figure out how to make this work?
Speaker 1: How can you make this work? So I said that
Speaker 1: out loud. I said, Okay, guys, we have to go
Speaker 1: with the flow here. How can we make this work?
Speaker 1: And so my students and I came up with an
Speaker 1: option that actually worked better than our original option. We
Speaker 1: we modified the props ourselves, and we made it work.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to thank you for that interview and
Speaker 1: the whole podcast. Of course, it's just amazing. I listened
Speaker 1: to it all the time, but that interview especially just
Speaker 1: made me a little less stressed that day. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and I'm going to carry that with me. Thanks, Alyssa.
Speaker 1: Between you and I and everybody listening, we could all
Speaker 1: be a little bit more like Steve Carrell every day
Speaker 1: and we'd be we'd be better off to remind people
Speaker 1: or let people know what Alyssa's talking about. Yes, we
Speaker 1: were two three days into full production, days from shooting
Speaker 1: the first Dundee's episode at Chili's. The script had been
Speaker 1: written the script was not altered, but there were some
Speaker 1: executive it was from Chili's who were there and did
Speaker 1: not like Pam getting drunk at Chili's and basically we're
Speaker 1: told you can't do that. And the entire episode, of course,
Speaker 1: with Pam getting a little tipsy and eventually kissing Jim,
Speaker 1: was a central central part of that episode. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Steve in the moment said okay, let's absolve chilies. Let's
Speaker 1: shoot a couple of times where she's not over served,
Speaker 1: but where she's stealing drinks, and let's have her be
Speaker 1: banned for life for doing that. And that ended up
Speaker 1: appeasing the good folks at Chili's, and um, obviously we
Speaker 1: ended up going to Chili's a couple of more times
Speaker 1: throughout the run of the show, so that all worked out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, listen, Steve is to me the greatest improviser
Speaker 1: of all time. And that's why right there he does
Speaker 1: it when he's acting. His creative mind is always on story,
Speaker 1: in character and and better than what anyone else can
Speaker 1: come up with. And yeah, he saved that episode for sure.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you were able to use that lesson.
Speaker 1: And I said it as a joke, but I really
Speaker 1: mean it. Watching Steve Correll, if you're an artistic person
Speaker 1: do what he does will make you a better artist
Speaker 1: or creative thinker. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 1: this is Tom Elliott over in the UK with some
Speaker 1: thoughts for your listener feedback show. Now, you always ask
Speaker 1: your guests why they think that The Office is more
Speaker 1: popular now than ever, and I can't answer that question
Speaker 1: for the US, but I can maybe answer that question
Speaker 1: for a section of that audience over here in the UK,
Speaker 1: because as my experience with becoming a fan of your
Speaker 1: show is an experience that I've had echoed over and
Speaker 1: over again by other British people in the last year
Speaker 1: or two because the UK version of The Office it
Speaker 1: was a game changer over here, you know, it really
Speaker 1: changed the face of British comedy and pretty much everyone
Speaker 1: loved that show. So when I heard that there was
Speaker 1: going to be a US version, I, like a lot
Speaker 1: of other people over here, rolled my eyes and thought, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. You know, we didn't have high hopes
Speaker 1: for it, so I wasn't expecting good things, but I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll watch the pilot and see how
Speaker 1: they do, and then I watched the pilot. Now I
Speaker 1: learned on your podcast why Greg chose to remake the
Speaker 1: British Pilot to stop the network given notes. But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: as a British viewer watching one of our crown jewels
Speaker 1: of television being remade in that way, it instantly turn
Speaker 1: me off because no disrespect to anyone involved, but I
Speaker 1: think when something was so seminal and so perfectly done
Speaker 1: the first time round, whoever tries to then recreate that
Speaker 1: just as a huge mountain to climb in terms of
Speaker 1: winning an audience over, no matter how talented they are.
Speaker 1: So I, like a lot of my compatriots, turned off
Speaker 1: the American Office at that point and didn't look back,
Speaker 1: and then promptly just forgot about it. So one day
Speaker 1: I put Netflix on my TV and I see that
Speaker 1: they've put the American Office on there, and I noticed
Speaker 1: that there's nine seasons, and I'm asking myself, how could
Speaker 1: they have made nine seasons of this thing? How is
Speaker 1: that even possible? But also my curiosity has peaked at
Speaker 1: this point because, as you know, the British show has
Speaker 1: twelve episodes and two specials, So what could they have
Speaker 1: been doing for nine years on the U S show.
Speaker 1: I guess they must have been doing something right. So
Speaker 1: I watched the pilot again, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: what it was. But it also been twenty years now
Speaker 1: since the UK offer, so I'm a little less precious
Speaker 1: about it, and I decided to just carry on. And
Speaker 1: I find that the fair that out I get from
Speaker 1: that pilot, the more and warm into this show and
Speaker 1: these characters. And now it wasn't so much about making
Speaker 1: a negative comparison to the British show. It was actually
Speaker 1: interesting to see where you guys would take it, to
Speaker 1: see your show evolve and take on its own identity,
Speaker 1: until we're actually at the point where each version justifies
Speaker 1: its own existence because they are the same but different.
Speaker 1: But that original question, why is the American Office more
Speaker 1: popular now than ever? And as your guests have said,
Speaker 1: there are many many reasons for that, But I think
Speaker 1: from my corner of the world, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why it's popular here now is that we almost had
Speaker 1: to forget about it two then Rediscovery, and I guess
Speaker 1: we also had to get over ourselves a bit as well,
Speaker 1: because the existence of one takes nothing away from the other,
Speaker 1: and instead of having one classic show in the British version.
Speaker 1: We now have two classic shows because the American version
Speaker 1: is a classic too, So everybody wins. There's just there's
Speaker 1: just more of it to love now, and what's wrong
Speaker 1: with that? You know? So anyway, that's my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for a great show, Brian, and I look forward
Speaker 1: to many more episodes to come. Tom, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for your thought for comments. Truly, I wish I
Speaker 1: had interviewed you before the book came out and before
Speaker 1: I did all of these interviews for the podcast. You're very,
Speaker 1: very insightful. You know. Look, we've talked about it quite
Speaker 1: a bit, but I think what you say is probably
Speaker 1: a hundred percent spot on. I mean, you cannot leave.
Speaker 1: And those of you who we're not watching the show
Speaker 1: are aware of what was going on back in two
Speaker 1: thousand four five. Maybe you weren't born yet, the amount
Speaker 1: of hate and vitriol for our show and the fact
Speaker 1: that it even existed. I mean not to bring up
Speaker 1: the sexiest man alive, Paul Rudd, but yes, Steve told
Speaker 1: me that when he told Paul he was coming in
Speaker 1: to read for it, Paul said, don't do it, don't
Speaker 1: do it, and that's that wasn't rare. I mean, now
Speaker 1: it seems silly, but at the time there were people
Speaker 1: who would not do the show because of the British
Speaker 1: version and how loved and beloved it had become, not
Speaker 1: just in the UK, but over here in the States
Speaker 1: by the time our show was on the air. So
Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting Tom that that you talk
Speaker 1: about that distance. And I also think it's interesting your
Speaker 1: response to to the pilot episode. And that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. You know, now I go
Speaker 1: on a variety television show or you know some program.
Speaker 1: It happened this week. Actually for me, I appeared on
Speaker 1: a show, and so often people want me to recreate
Speaker 1: a scene from the office, and what I say to
Speaker 1: them is no, no, we we can't do that. What
Speaker 1: we what we have to do is if you want
Speaker 1: to nod towards it, let's nod lightly. People will get
Speaker 1: the joke, but let's do our own interpretation of that joke,
Speaker 1: be it sitting on Santa's lab or spilling chili. For
Speaker 1: me to attempt to recreate that moment that exists is
Speaker 1: always going to pale in comparison, And so I think
Speaker 1: it's very interesting what you say being so familiar, being
Speaker 1: such a huge, huge fan in the UK of the
Speaker 1: British version to see us, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: try to just imitate that. Yeah, I'm sure for you
Speaker 1: it would pale in comparison. So thank you for your comments.
Speaker 1: I still haven't discovered quite the reason why I think
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of great answers. It's probably a
Speaker 1: combination of many things, but your perspective from the folks
Speaker 1: in the UK are very very interesting. So thanks Tom
Speaker 1: for your comments, and and thank you so much for listening. Hey, Brian,
Speaker 1: my name is Selmia from New York City. I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of the podcast, and I have to say
Speaker 1: that during the pandemic and during work from home, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty much have the office on the background while I'm
Speaker 1: doing work, so in many ways, I feel like I
Speaker 1: work at dunder Mifflin. UM. I wanted to shout out
Speaker 1: the episodes you had with the hair and makeup team.
Speaker 1: I thought that was such a unique perspective and it
Speaker 1: was great to hear from some really empowering female voices
Speaker 1: that the fans don't get to hear from a lot,
Speaker 1: so I thought their stories were really touching and it's
Speaker 1: great to see how close they were with the cast. Um,
Speaker 1: my question for you is what's kind of next for
Speaker 1: this podcast? I know a lot of these interviews are
Speaker 1: going to be featured in your upcoming book. Um, but
Speaker 1: now that the book is coming out, like, what's next
Speaker 1: do you see the podcast continuing? Are you going to
Speaker 1: pivot into something else? Um? I know you have that
Speaker 1: sweet sweet cameo money, so you know you don't really
Speaker 1: need the day job, But what's kind of next for you?
Speaker 1: And you know, Kevin Malone in two thanks so much. Hey, Semmia,
Speaker 1: thank you so much shouting me out from New York City,
Speaker 1: which I've been in a lot recently, so it's becoming
Speaker 1: my second home. In fact, thanks for your comments about Laverne,
Speaker 1: Debbie Kim, the hair and makeup people. They were some
Speaker 1: of my favorite conversations. And you know, look the the
Speaker 1: hours that we spent together and the intense times that
Speaker 1: we had. As as they said they were, they were
Speaker 1: part therapist, part part confidante, part everything. It was great
Speaker 1: to be able to sit down and spend some time
Speaker 1: with them and hear their perspective on the show What's
Speaker 1: Next two? Well, I guess I guess that's simple. Off
Speaker 1: the Beat a new podcast right here. You can still
Speaker 1: find it right here on the Office deep Dive feed.
Speaker 1: But as you know, we've talked to so many folks
Speaker 1: from the office, and we'll continue to talk to some more.
Speaker 1: But really we're going to expand and talk about television,
Speaker 1: all of television, other shows and television classic shows. Will
Speaker 1: start with some folks who had appearances on the Office,
Speaker 1: but focus on some of their other work. I'm interested
Speaker 1: in focusing on the moments that happened off the beat,
Speaker 1: not the moments that everyone else has heard about two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven thousand times, but moments in their
Speaker 1: career or on their shows that we haven't heard about before.
Speaker 1: Because as a French director I once worked with told
Speaker 1: me that comedy happens off the beat. It's the unexpected
Speaker 1: moments that are often the most pleasurable and the most important.
Speaker 1: So we will be back right here, same bat channel,
Speaker 1: same bat time. I guess there's no time in podcasts,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna keep talking to folks in television and
Speaker 1: maybe some sports as well, about the moments that happened
Speaker 1: for these people that you know and love that well,
Speaker 1: maybe you've never heard before Greene's Mr Bumgarner. My name
Speaker 1: is Marcus and I am a longtime fan of the Office.
Speaker 1: I actually stumbled across the show because when it was premiered,
Speaker 1: I already had the habit of watching must say must
Speaker 1: see TV on Thursdays back since Seinfeld was on, so
Speaker 1: I was a mediate fan. But one thing you do
Speaker 1: is you often ask your guests what make The Office
Speaker 1: even more popular today than it was back then when
Speaker 1: it originally aired well, I was one of those people
Speaker 1: who bought the seasons on iTunes when they dropped back
Speaker 1: into two thousand's. I was in the U. S. Navy
Speaker 1: and I was in and out of the country quite
Speaker 1: a lot. I did miss big chunks of some of
Speaker 1: the earliest seasons, so I would often binge them over
Speaker 1: and over again on my laptop or or whatever I
Speaker 1: had access to. But even more important, when I was
Speaker 1: deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times between two thousand
Speaker 1: seven and two thousand twelve, I didn't have reliable internet
Speaker 1: and streaming wasn't a thing. Um. I didn't have Netflix
Speaker 1: streaming anything like that, and I'd watch entire seasons on
Speaker 1: my laptop straight through, just from start to beginning, and
Speaker 1: then repeat every time I wasn't actually working. Imagine a
Speaker 1: dark tent, some dusty place, dirty, hot, miserable me lying
Speaker 1: on a cot, you know, or sometimes just a piece
Speaker 1: of plywood tucked in my sleeping bag, laptop resting on
Speaker 1: my stomach, headphones on. So hopefully I went and disturbed
Speaker 1: my neighbors sleeping only a few feet away, you know,
Speaker 1: watching Brian go for the records stuffing Eminem's in his mouth,
Speaker 1: or Stanley yelling. Did I stutter at Michael or Pam
Speaker 1: holding her first art show. I can't count how many
Speaker 1: times I stifled a tear or I'll definitely a laugh
Speaker 1: to not again not wake up the person next to me.
Speaker 1: But also, you know, watching these shows actually kept me saying,
Speaker 1: And a lot of it has to do with that
Speaker 1: whole I think you've talked about a lot that office
Speaker 1: environment that just normal people. That's what I wanted to
Speaker 1: fill was normal. So thank you forgive us a peek
Speaker 1: behind the curtain through your podcast, and I have to
Speaker 1: admit your sibling podcasts as well, Office Ladies. Both of
Speaker 1: your shows have really introduced us to all the creative
Speaker 1: masterminds that came together like a perfect chilly recipe to
Speaker 1: make the office. Before I go, I wanted to say
Speaker 1: the two of my favorite episodes of yours where the
Speaker 1: conversations with Ben Silverman and the one especially with Debbie
Speaker 1: Pierce and Kim Ferry. Both are examples of how deep
Speaker 1: you really dove. Mr Silverman haven't been there at the beginning,
Speaker 1: and it was really great to hear his side of
Speaker 1: the story and how things really came together. But even
Speaker 1: more where else and who else would give equal time
Speaker 1: to make up and hair. I would just love to
Speaker 1: learn how their department was organized and the challenges they face,
Speaker 1: as well as their personal stories. You are a fantastic
Speaker 1: human being for sharing them with us. Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to your next chapter. Marcus, you
Speaker 1: horror fantastic human being. Thank you one for your service.
Speaker 1: It's incredible to me knowing you were stationed abroad Iraq,
Speaker 1: Afghanistan fighting for all of us back home, and the
Speaker 1: visual image you paint of lying there on your cot
Speaker 1: in a hot and dusty place getting some degree of
Speaker 1: joy out of our show, it is moving to me.
Speaker 1: It is incre incredible. It makes me so incredibly humbled
Speaker 1: and grateful to have been a part of a show
Speaker 1: that was able to give you, specifically Marcus, a respite
Speaker 1: for what you were, what you were enduring at that time.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for your call. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben Silverman is the man, there is no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Debbie Pierce is the man, and
Speaker 1: Kim Ferry and Laverne, Karacus Milazzo and everyone was important.
Speaker 1: And that is what we have tried to show on
Speaker 1: this show, what we wanted to have you experience all
Speaker 1: of the good people in every position down the line.
Speaker 1: Everybody had a part to play. And so thank you.
Speaker 1: The fact that those two episodes are what you called out.
Speaker 1: I love that. That gives me such incredible joy you
Speaker 1: can't even imagine. So Marcus, God bless you. Thank you
Speaker 1: again and and uh and thanks for listening and keep listening.
Speaker 1: And by the way, whenever we do this again, Marcus,
Speaker 1: you have the bat phone whenever you want to call
Speaker 1: if you have anything to say. UH, you're on my friend.
Speaker 1: God bless and be well and happy, happy ist of
Speaker 1: New Year's to you. Hi, Brian and team. I really
Speaker 1: love your show and look forward to it every week.
Speaker 1: In listening to the Ed Helms Part two episode, he
Speaker 1: mentioned that the most common question he gets about The
Speaker 1: Office is why he thinks the show is so popular
Speaker 1: with kids and young people. His response was to ask them,
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. I wonder if you
Speaker 1: could do an episode where you talk to young fans
Speaker 1: about the show, and it's for why they like it
Speaker 1: so much and why it resonates with them. Thanks for
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. Well, well, well ask and you shall receive.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Elizabeth. Honestly, so many of you called in
Speaker 1: to talk about just that why the Office resonates so
Speaker 1: much with young people, which, by the way, it warms
Speaker 1: my heart that the question that I asked so many
Speaker 1: of my guests is one that you all have thought
Speaker 1: about too. So I guess, um, well, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a little taste of some of the theories that
Speaker 1: came my way. Brian bum Gardener, Oh my goodness, hello
Speaker 1: everybody at the Office Deep Dive Team. I'm I'm a teenager,
Speaker 1: and you often ask your guests on the show why
Speaker 1: they think young people watch it. I feel like, not
Speaker 1: only is it an obviously an amazing comedy with jokes
Speaker 1: that hold up, but I feel like it is set
Speaker 1: up like the lives that the current kids today live.
Speaker 1: Children today constantly have cameras in their faces and are
Speaker 1: talking to cameras um and I feel like The Office
Speaker 1: is relatable to their generation. For this, it almost runs
Speaker 1: like a YouTube show where you have so many doing
Speaker 1: silly things and then performing for a camera, which is
Speaker 1: also what kids, I feel like deal with in their
Speaker 1: own homes. It's medicine. There are so many times that
Speaker 1: I've watched The Office when I've needed a laugh, or
Speaker 1: I have anxiety, or I'm sick, or there's just nothing
Speaker 1: else that sounds good on TV. I have been watching
Speaker 1: The Office since I was six years old. The Office
Speaker 1: has meant so much to me um Over the years,
Speaker 1: any time that I was going through something really hard
Speaker 1: and I could not bring myself to smile, I could
Speaker 1: always put on the Office and it was just so
Speaker 1: familiar and comforting and safe and pleasant. And even moments
Speaker 1: where I was in deep depression or sadness or pain
Speaker 1: and nothing could make me smile, I could sit down
Speaker 1: and watch the Office and get at least one little
Speaker 1: grin out of me. And I think it's because it's
Speaker 1: so real. A lot of these times these days, people
Speaker 1: just want that real connection and it's hard to find
Speaker 1: that with social media and everything. In the office, they're
Speaker 1: just they're just real people, and people really connect to that.
Speaker 1: And also like really romanticize his office life the show.
Speaker 1: It does. I feel like I didn't picture myself working
Speaker 1: in office before, but now I do. But even I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know what I would do with the office,
Speaker 1: I just pictured myself. They're just because of the office.
Speaker 1: I think that kids, whatever varying age, identify with that
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like what growing up is like,
Speaker 1: that you don't always have a say in what you're
Speaker 1: subjected to, and you don't always have control over your life,
Speaker 1: and you feel like even how if it's right or wrong,
Speaker 1: who knows, but that you know you're right, what you
Speaker 1: want and need in that moment is right, and that
Speaker 1: you can't help the situation the outcome, regardless of your
Speaker 1: position or desire, whatever it is at the moment. So
Speaker 1: I think that's why kids like it and and and
Speaker 1: identify with Jim having to roll his eyes at Michael's
Speaker 1: ridiculous nous or the insanity that is Robert California's you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what he's pulling out at the moment. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Thanks Lovely Need Podcast. It's been absolutely fantastic and huge
Speaker 1: fan um and yeah go Braves. Wow, you guys. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to all of you. Thank you, ZEFFI,
Speaker 1: thank you, Katie Auv, thank you, kay Ela, Cela I
Speaker 1: appreciate you and Tyler Go Dodgers. But thank you for
Speaker 1: calling in and well for giving me your thoughts as
Speaker 1: to why the show is so relatable to young people.
Speaker 1: You're all well, you're always smarter than I am. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 1: my name is Sarah Attison, and I'm sharing with you
Speaker 1: my answer for a question that you often asked your guests.
Speaker 1: Why do these young children really love The Office so much?
Speaker 1: What is it about it that makes them love it?
Speaker 1: And my answer is pretty simple. It's straight up indoctrination.
Speaker 1: Let me explain. I watched The Office what was airing
Speaker 1: on TV, and I was in junior high, high school,
Speaker 1: and then college. By the time it wrapped, The Office
Speaker 1: just became my go to show. Much like Billie Eilish.
Speaker 1: I always have it on. It's on in the background
Speaker 1: while I work during the day. I listened to it
Speaker 1: while I clean or while I'm out exercising. It's something
Speaker 1: that I can always depend on for a laugh and
Speaker 1: to make me feel good. That means that when I
Speaker 1: was pregnant with my children, I watched a lot of
Speaker 1: the Office, and in utero they did too, So all
Speaker 1: of my babies were born knowing the theme song. They
Speaker 1: would respond, they recognized it. When we would be holding
Speaker 1: him and watching the show, the theme song would play
Speaker 1: and they would perk up and they knew the song.
Speaker 1: And all those late nights and late night feedings, I
Speaker 1: would pop on the Office while I said my kids,
Speaker 1: and I think that we really just from the start,
Speaker 1: gave them a reason to associate the Office with comfort
Speaker 1: and peace and safety and laughter and joy. And now
Speaker 1: my three year old knows the Office. She announces when
Speaker 1: anyone comes over that we're watching the Office because we're
Speaker 1: always watching. And my one year old, when the theme
Speaker 1: song comes on, immediately begins to smile and dance. And
Speaker 1: they don't understand the jokes, but they know the characters.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's brainwashing. We've indoctrinated them. That's definitely why
Speaker 1: all these young kids like The Office now. And I
Speaker 1: do have one question. Brian Um on Peacock The Home
Speaker 1: of the Office. Now. Uh, they've started releasing the super
Speaker 1: Fan episodes, which are longer cuts, putting in deleted scenes.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you've watched the Superfan episodes and
Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts some of them. The deleted
Speaker 1: scenes inform or maybe even shift storylines a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you have an opinion on breaking
Speaker 1: Cannon or if that's just an addition and giving us
Speaker 1: more light and insight into all of these characters. Thank
Speaker 1: you for what to do. And now I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: and watch more of the Office. Oh, Sarah, I love
Speaker 1: your Doctor Nation theory. Um, let's go with it. I
Speaker 1: love it. Uh, the in utero late night feedings that
Speaker 1: they associate with comfort and happiness, that is well, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: So then you have a really great question about the
Speaker 1: extended episodes. So look, the short answer is no, I
Speaker 1: have not gone to Peacock now. So, in doing all
Speaker 1: this preparation for the podcast for writing the book, I
Speaker 1: went back and watched everything in order. I watched the
Speaker 1: run in order and then watched uh some episodes. When
Speaker 1: I was about to talk to somebody, I would I
Speaker 1: would watch some of their sort of signature episodes again,
Speaker 1: either episodes they'd written or directed, or or important acting
Speaker 1: episodes for them. So I watched it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I have not gone back, but I have seen on
Speaker 1: the DVDs they released a lot of deleted scenes and
Speaker 1: some extended episodes. Your question about the canon, though, is
Speaker 1: where I'm going to focus, because Greg Daniels had the
Speaker 1: same question as we were shooting. Does a webisode does
Speaker 1: does information that you get from a webisode? Does that
Speaker 1: become part of the cannon? Does a scene that was
Speaker 1: shot but never aired? Does that become a part of
Speaker 1: the cannon? Now, I think in some cases scenes that
Speaker 1: were shot, and I would say this is a rare exception,
Speaker 1: But in some cases a scene that were was shot
Speaker 1: maybe didn't make it because we weren't sure we wanted
Speaker 1: that information to come out about the character, or we
Speaker 1: we didn't want the character to necessarily go in that direction,
Speaker 1: or maybe it felt sort of inconsistent with the character
Speaker 1: that that had been created it or that was going
Speaker 1: to come up in the future, Uh, something different for
Speaker 1: that character. So, um, that doesn't really answer the question.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you that there was a bible,
Speaker 1: a show bible that had the answers to all of
Speaker 1: those things up in the writer's room, and when they
Speaker 1: had a question about something, they would go back and
Speaker 1: one find out where a character may have stood on
Speaker 1: a particular issue in the past, or you know, what
Speaker 1: a character's arc or journey had been from the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show, And there were mentions as to whether
Speaker 1: or not that information had gotten actually aired. It may
Speaker 1: have been written, it may have been shot, it may
Speaker 1: have been even in the first cut, but it was
Speaker 1: impossible for me, by the way to even remember for
Speaker 1: Kevin if something had actually aired or not, So I
Speaker 1: tended to. I think Greg tended to for the most part,
Speaker 1: fall on the side of if it was shot, then
Speaker 1: it's part of the Bible. So I'd be interested though,
Speaker 1: to know if you or any others have found moments
Speaker 1: that have been added back in that now bring up inconsistencies.
Speaker 1: That would be interesting for me. Thanks Sarah, Hi Brian.
Speaker 1: My name is Maggie. I'm a high schooler and I'm
Speaker 1: from Fairport, New York. UM. The Office means so much
Speaker 1: to me. I really think it's one of the comfort
Speaker 1: shows I go to, and it got me through COVID
Speaker 1: and I'm probably one of the biggest fans I know.
Speaker 1: I love the show. I know everything about the characters,
Speaker 1: and I just love it so much. My question for
Speaker 1: you is, when Michael leaves, he shows Kevin the poster
Speaker 1: of the chair, But do you still have that poster
Speaker 1: and if so, where did you put it? Anyways, I
Speaker 1: would love to be featured on your podcast and I'm
Speaker 1: just such a huge, huge fan and it would make
Speaker 1: my world if I got a chance to speak with you. Maggie.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I do have a poster, um
Speaker 1: I haven't. I will admit to you. I have a
Speaker 1: box of some memorabilia that has not actually been framed
Speaker 1: or hung on a wall as of yet that falls
Speaker 1: into that category. But I know I have it because
Speaker 1: I remember the discussion that I had when I took it,
Speaker 1: which was someone asked if I wanted a copy of
Speaker 1: the poster, and I said, no, I want that copy
Speaker 1: of the poster. And it was the poster that Steve
Speaker 1: Well that Michael Slash Steve had had ripped in half,
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to give it to me because see,
Speaker 1: the prop people, they believe that any prop that's ever
Speaker 1: used will have to be used again, So there are warehouses.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe now they've gotten rid of it, or
Speaker 1: maybe it's in the Office experience in Chicago, there where
Speaker 1: any prop that was used in an episode, they thought, well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll need it again, and so they didn't want
Speaker 1: to give it up. I convinced them in this particular case,
Speaker 1: that they could rip another one similarly enough if for
Speaker 1: some reason it ever had to make an appearance on
Speaker 1: the show. But yes, I have the Cherub poster. I
Speaker 1: have the Cherub poster. Thanks for listening, Maggie. Hi Brian.
Speaker 1: My name is Adeline and I'm from Rochester, New York,
Speaker 1: and we're going on maybe the fourth time trying this,
Speaker 1: just because I'm terrible at recording things like this. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty four and I started watching The Office um
Speaker 1: as it aired, so at the time, I was probably
Speaker 1: in fourth grade, and um, I'll never forget watching the finale.
Speaker 1: I put it off for a long time. Um. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the same year that I graduated high school, but
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe getting close to when I
Speaker 1: was going to be graduating and just a big change
Speaker 1: and knowing I'm going to go away to college and
Speaker 1: feeling like a chapter of my life was ending and
Speaker 1: feeling like I grew up with the Office and grew
Speaker 1: up with it by my side, and I had it
Speaker 1: there for everything, you know, and when I knew it
Speaker 1: was coming to an end, it almost felt like I
Speaker 1: was going off on my own, um and starting starting
Speaker 1: my own you know, life, and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: have the Office to lean back on almost in a way.
Speaker 1: And you know, you are trying to answer the question,
Speaker 1: and you know, why is it so popular right now?
Speaker 1: And why do people love it? And the obvious answers
Speaker 1: the fact that it's more popular now because it's more
Speaker 1: accessible on Netflix, and well, I mean, now it's not
Speaker 1: on Netflix, but it was on Netflix, and now it's
Speaker 1: on Peacock and you can watch it and you can
Speaker 1: binge it. But I think, you know, the real, kind
Speaker 1: of deeper answer is that it makes you feel like
Speaker 1: you're a part of something, and you go to it
Speaker 1: because you know what you're going to get, and you
Speaker 1: get that comfort and you get that stability of feeling
Speaker 1: like it's always going to be there for you. Um,
Speaker 1: it's your support system. If you need to cry, you
Speaker 1: know which episode to watch, obviously, if you need a
Speaker 1: laugh and you need to feel good, but yeah, just
Speaker 1: I thank you for doing this podcast because it allows
Speaker 1: me to continue getting that same emotional connection that I
Speaker 1: had with the show. It's just, you know, more content
Speaker 1: in a different way. And I think it speaks to
Speaker 1: me now being an adult and how I consume the
Speaker 1: content you know, differently in this different part of my life.
Speaker 1: So thank you. Um, you all mean the world to me,
Speaker 1: more than you will ever know. Well, Adeline, the third
Speaker 1: time was the charm. Thank you for your incredibly thoughtful
Speaker 1: and moving message. I appreciate your thoughts and I appreciate
Speaker 1: you telling me that the podcast has brought you back
Speaker 1: in a way to experience the show in a new way,
Speaker 1: in a deeper way, like it's the first time again.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. God bless Happy New Year
Speaker 1: to you, Adeline. And here's uh, here's for more in Hello.
Speaker 1: My name is Cecilia Boyle and I'm from New Jersey.
Speaker 1: I am ten years old and will probably one of
Speaker 1: the youngest kids on this podcast. Um. My favorite scene
Speaker 1: with Kevin Innitt is where he goes when Oscar comes
Speaker 1: back and after Michael kisses him, and then Kevin goes,
Speaker 1: how is your gay case in a screw? And um,
Speaker 1: My question to Kevin slash Brian is if you could
Speaker 1: change anything with any of Kevin's relationships with his coworkers,
Speaker 1: or even change something about Kevin's backstory, what would it be. Well, Cecilia,
Speaker 1: thank you for calling it. I think you've done it.
Speaker 1: I think you broke the record. I think ten is
Speaker 1: the youngest. Thank you for being such an articulate fan
Speaker 1: and uh, such a big fan of the show. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Is there anything that I would change about
Speaker 1: Kevin's backstory? I don't know about his back story, but
Speaker 1: I wish that I wish that Kevin had found a
Speaker 1: little more loving and I'll just phrase it like that.
Speaker 1: I really liked those episodes, particularly the storyline around Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day and uh finding Lynn. I just feel really fortunate
Speaker 1: about the moments that I was able to play where
Speaker 1: Kevin has a small victory. So I wish that for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know so much about backstory, but I wish
Speaker 1: that for him. And my hope for him now is
Speaker 1: in New Year's Eve one to two, I hope that
Speaker 1: he is behind his bar, let's call it Malone's in
Speaker 1: Scratton and he's serving drinks, maybe having a few and
Speaker 1: having an absolutely great night. That's what I hope. Thanks Cecilia.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, that is that for today's call an episode. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too cheesy, but when you
Speaker 1: work on something, really, on any creative project, all you
Speaker 1: can hope is that one that people will see it
Speaker 1: and that they will respond to it. But the way
Speaker 1: that you fans have responded to the Office, I never
Speaker 1: even dreamed that that was possible. Never in in mine
Speaker 1: or any of our wildest dreams did we believe that
Speaker 1: was possible. So thank you so much for sending in
Speaker 1: your thoughts, your stories which are so moving, your comments,
Speaker 1: and of course all of your love. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: feel it, I feel the love and I am sending
Speaker 1: it right back to you. Have an incredible week, well,
Speaker 1: have an incredible rest of the year. Really, be safe
Speaker 1: out there, and hey, guess what, guys, I will see
Speaker 1: you next year in two The Office. Deep Dive is
Speaker 1: hosted and executive produced by me Brian bum Gartner, alongside
Speaker 1: our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Liz Hayes and
Speaker 1: Diego Tabia. My main man in the booth is Alec Moore.
Speaker 1: Our theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great
Speaker 1: friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by seth
Speaker 1: Olandscape