1 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody out there in the podcast universe or pod 2 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: verse as I just now named it. Welcome to another 3 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: episode of the Office Deep Dive. As always, it's me, 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: that's right, your host, Brian Baumgartner, coming at you with 5 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: a very special end of the year addition of the podcast. 6 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Because we did it, guys, we made it through another year, 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: and as a New Year's treat, today, I've got another 8 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: call in episode lined up for you, because look, I'll 9 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: admit it, I can't get enough of you. That's what 10 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: she said. Uh, but I mean that truly. It has 11 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: been so incredible to hear from you and talk to you. 12 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: So thank you all of you who reached out. We 13 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: got so many calls. Thank you for taking the time 14 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: to connect with us. And you know what, I'm just 15 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: gonna go right into it. Yeah. So I would like 16 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: to welcome right now you, my listeners, to the very 17 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: last episode of one, an episode starring well you. So 18 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: let's see who do we have calling in today? Bubble 19 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on Bubble 20 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: and Squeaker cooking every month, lift over from the night before. 21 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: How's it going, Brian? Thank you for having me on 22 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: this show. This is very nice. It's lovely to see you. Anyways, 23 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I have a question about Kevin here throughout the whole show, 24 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Kevin got way dumber. You know, in the first like 25 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: one episode, not one episodes, one season, second season he 26 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: was stupid, yes, slow, yeah, but he seemed to morph 27 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: into this borderline mentally disabled person. And I was just 28 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: curious because that you now, you call it out, but 29 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: what Oscar and Angela called out when you're talking with 30 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the you know, why use big word when small word 31 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: do trick? You know, he's gotten worse over the years. 32 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: But I was just curious if that is was an 33 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: intentional thing done by either you or the writing staff, 34 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: or if it just morphed over the nine years that 35 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: you guys were on air into that and if that 36 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: was a consciousness acsion that you made to make him 37 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: done more slowly, or if it just you kind of 38 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: got more into the character as a story went on 39 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: and that was actually how the character was supposed to 40 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: play the entire time. Uh yeah, thanks for having me on. 41 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake your hand now, shake Jake, Jake, we 42 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: just shook hands. Can you believe it? Mom? All right, bye? 43 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: We just shook hands. Nick, thank you for your question. Look, 44 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: this has been brought up a lot, especially if you 45 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: go onto the deep dark web that has read it. 46 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Um the original character description of Kevin when they were casting, 47 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: the casting noticed said, the only thing remarkable about Kevin 48 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: is that he is remarkably unremarkable. So that's where we 49 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: started from, and I think we found over time that 50 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: there were, in fact some remarkable things about Kevin. So yes, 51 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Kevin morphs. Really it was the writing. The writer's fell 52 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: in love with let's just call it Kevin's childlike sensibility. 53 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: And so my nerdy I've talked about this before, but 54 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: my nerdy actory justification for this was when the camera crew. 55 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: When the documentary crew began to film dunder Mifflin, Kevin 56 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: was very nervous and much more reserved. And then as 57 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: he became more comfortable with the cameras being in the office, 58 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: maybe he went out with a beer or two with 59 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: some of the crew guys, more of his true personality 60 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: came out. Now that's my justification. I think the reality 61 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: was the writer's fell in love with that sort of 62 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: childlike sensibility and leaned into it. Also, Kevin was used 63 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: as one of the characters for physical comedy, which has 64 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: a tendency to well, let's just say dumb up a character. Uh. 65 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: And in fact, when Steve Carrell left, I was told 66 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: by Paul Lieberstein and some of the other writers that 67 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: they were going to even more lean into Kevin and 68 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: physical comedy because Steve Carrell was gone, who was helming 69 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the physical comedy. So there's the answer. Nick. 70 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't really conscious, but it did evolve because of 71 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: how the writers were writing the role. So he started 72 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: as remarkably unremarkable and I think he ended, um, well, 73 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: something quite different. But thanks Nick, and here's here's your 74 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: handshake back. Hi, Brian, my name is Randy. I live 75 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: in Santa Rosa, California. Big fan of the Office, of course, 76 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you my three grandsons are also 77 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: their ages twelve, fifteen, and eighteen. They also loved the show. 78 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: And Um, I was wondering how many takes typical scene 79 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: would would be done. I guess it would depend on 80 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: the different directors. Um, there seems to be so much 81 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: going on in a scene, so many different people involved 82 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: in a given scene, that to do very many takes 83 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: would be kind of hard. So what would you say 84 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: the average number of takes was for a scene. Well, thanks, Randy, 85 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: And let me tell you on a personal note, the 86 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: fact that you're a grandfather and you're a fan of 87 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: the show, and you have grandkids that are fans of 88 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: the show. I think that is well to quote Kevin awesome. 89 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: You know, that's an impossible question to answer. It really 90 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: depended upon the complexity of the scene. And as you said, 91 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the number of people, and actually the number of people 92 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: that were in a scene increased the number of takes 93 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: that would be required to shoot it because they needed 94 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody was covered. Um, largely, it 95 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: depended on two factors. One, how many takes were lost 96 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: because people were laughing. That is just that is just 97 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the truth. And I my mind goes to the conference 98 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: room scenes and Steve Correll, Michael Scott at the front 99 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: scenes like prison Mike, those were incredibly difficult. The more 100 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: improv that he and others did that caught the rest 101 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: of us off balance. The smiles and the laughs came. 102 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: So that was one And to how much improv was done. 103 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: So because we were shooting the show for NBC, a 104 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: mega conglomerate corporation. You know, everything we said had to 105 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: be approved. So the script as written was always shot 106 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: because if it if it wasn't on the page, we 107 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: may not get approval for it, and then we would 108 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: be in trouble. So everything as written was shot because 109 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: it was had been approved by the network and this 110 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: band of people called standards and practices, which ensure that 111 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: nothing naughty gets on the air, or at least not 112 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: too naughty. Um. But then we were always every scene 113 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: we were given a free pass, a pass to play 114 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: and improv and depending on how successful the scene was working, 115 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: depending on how successful actors were able to improvise or 116 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: writers were able to pitch new jokes, the scene would 117 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: happen more. But you know, because of that, that's why 118 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: on the DVD s and now on Peacock, there are 119 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: so many additional scenes that were that were cut. Our 120 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: first assembly they called it was about forty five minutes, 121 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: and when you think about running time on NBC, that 122 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: was twenty two minutes. So on average we had a 123 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: double episode shot and then they had to cut it 124 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: down to twenty two. I know that's not an answer, Randy, 125 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: exactly how many takes just remember this the chili scene. 126 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: One take. That's really all you need to know. Hi, Brian, 127 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: this is Steve Schrader listening to your podcast today. I 128 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: heard about, um your request here from listeners, so this 129 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: is my first I'd like to say. I guess is one. UM. 130 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I love your podcast, big fan, obviously, big fan of 131 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the Office. UM you were also I've already pre um 132 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: bought the book, re ordered the book, and UM, you're 133 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: kind of enough to do a cameo for my wife 134 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: for her birthday, I want to say, a couple of 135 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: years ago now UM with chili, So thank you. So 136 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. UM my question is to you, 137 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: and there is no certainly no one besides you that 138 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: could play Kevin. But I'm always interested in what the 139 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: actor themselves think of who would they like to see 140 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: try to play that character if it wasn't them. So 141 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: that's my question to you. UM, if if it wasn't 142 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: you playing Kevin, hard to even think of anybody else 143 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: playing you, who would you think you would like to 144 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: see or who you know maybe several people you would 145 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: like to see like Kevin. Thank you, bye, Hey Steve, 146 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: thank you for your question. By the way, you hit 147 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: the Triumvirent All right, you're a fan of the podcast, 148 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: which I can't thank you enough for. You now have 149 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: the book. I hope you enjoy it. By the way, 150 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: as I speak right now, four weeks in a row 151 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: on the New York Times bestseller list. So I want 152 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: to thank not just you, but everybody who has supported 153 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: the book. It's so exciting to me personally that so 154 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: many people are are reading it, are reading what I wrote. 155 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: And then of course CAMEO, thank you for your support 156 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: there as well. So who else would I like to 157 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: see play? Kevin George Clooney, I think would be my answer, 158 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know Steve. That's so difficult. But I 159 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: will tell you a story. I don't know if you 160 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: know this. When Steve Carrell left the show, we had 161 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: a big party and Alison Jones, are amazing casting director, 162 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: came up to me and she said, well, you know, 163 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I was looking for some mementos to give Steve, you 164 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: know now that he's he's leaving. I didn't find something 165 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: that great, but I thought you would be interested in this. 166 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: And it was a single sheet of paper with three names. 167 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: It said Kevin Malone and then it was the three 168 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: actors that in the end they were considering for the role, 169 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: and it was myself, it was Eric stone Street, and 170 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: it was Jorge Garcia. Eric stone Street obviously went on 171 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: to Modern Family, Jorge Garcia went on to Lost, amongst 172 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: other things. Um, and I framed that piece of paper 173 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: and it is it is. It is in my office 174 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: because I think it's so cool and I'm such a 175 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: fan of both of them. So who knows, you could 176 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: have had Eric stone Street or Jorge Garcia as Kevin 177 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: Malone on The Office. Um, but that's who could have 178 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: done it. Who I want? Who I would have wanted 179 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: to do it? Yeah, Yeah, George Clooney, Hello Office Deep Dive, 180 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: and hello Brian, So good to talk to you. I'm 181 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: a huge fan of the podcast. Obviously a huge fan 182 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: of the Office. My name is Kendrick, And I just 183 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: had a question that I've always been wondering ever since 184 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, and that question is how do 185 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: the actors and I guess anybody working on the set 186 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: de stress after stressful moments during filming, because I bet 187 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: there was a lot of stressful times during filming the 188 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: show and moments that people would feel stressed you know, 189 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: including you or any other actor, and I just want 190 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to know what your methods were, what other actors methods 191 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: are when these times are stressful. I mean, do you 192 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: just go to your trailer and meditate or do you 193 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: do exercise? Like what do you do on set there 194 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: when you start to feel stressed? Thank you so much, Kendre. 195 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: Great question, Thank you for listening. Look, I might be 196 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: a little different. I'll tell you this. How I d 197 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: stress in my normal life now is I play golf. 198 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion about me and golf, 199 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and I play as much golf as I can. Unfortunately 200 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: it's not as much as I would like. But but 201 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I always say that for the four hours or whatever 202 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: that I'm out there, for me, I become singularly focused 203 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: on one thing, which is getting the ball in the hole. 204 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: That's what she said. I don't know that wasn't even intentional, um, 205 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: but that's all I think about. So everything else that's 206 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: going on in work or in personal life or whatever else, 207 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: it goes away for the time that I'm out there, 208 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: and then as soon as i'm done, I'm sort of 209 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: back to it. So I tell you that because similarly 210 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: on the office. It wasn't a out going and being 211 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: alone or meditating because I think my feeble brain would 212 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: just ruminate on whatever was stressing me out. And and look, 213 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: we were there twelve to fourteen hours a day for 214 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: five days, which is a long time, and it becomes 215 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: difficult to get anything else done. The fatigue sets in 216 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: at times because of our schedule. We were doing twelve 217 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: episodes in a row, which is very rare in television. 218 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: It stresses everybody out. You know, you have to find 219 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: props for the next episode, the writers have to keep 220 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: up with scripts. All of those things have to happen. 221 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I played Madden Football. That's 222 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: what I did. I played John Madden Football with John 223 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Krasinski over lunch. And that doesn't seem like a d stressor. 224 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: But again for me, during that thirty minutes, thirty to 225 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: forty five minutes, my focus was just on beating John. 226 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: That's it, beating John and not there was nothing else 227 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: going on in my head. So there's your answer. John 228 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Madden football the greatest D stresser for this actor on 229 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: the Office. And thank you so much for doing the 230 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Office deep dive. It was fantastic hearing all the interviews, 231 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: and I'm stoked to hear that you're coming out with 232 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: a new podcast. Well, The Office meant so much to 233 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: me because during my darkest times, with times when I 234 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: was feeling down, the Office was my happy place. I've 235 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: watched The Office all the way through, probably nine or 236 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: ten times. I've got to the point where I've stopped counting. 237 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: But the one funny story, You're really interesting thing that 238 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: I really wanted to bring up is that from my 239 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday, the Dirty thirty, I had no idea that 240 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: this was happening, but I happened to be wearing my 241 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: dunder Mifflin T shirt and my wife brought me over 242 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: to my friend's house, who I thought was a party 243 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: for somebody else, and it turned out that it was 244 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: a surprise birthday party that was Office. Them had the 245 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: banner that says it is your birthday. All the food 246 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: was Office themed pizza by Alfredo and all that stuff, 247 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, and it was fantastic. But the coolest thing, 248 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: the icing on the cake, was that I had no 249 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: idea that Cameo was a thing, and my wife said, hey, 250 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: we've got something for you, and they turned on the 251 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: TV and it was a cameo video of you sending 252 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: me a birthday message, and I don't know, I'm getting 253 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: emotional thinking about it, but it was so cool. I 254 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: had no idea that that was happening, and just to uh, 255 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: to see your face and tell me happy birthday, Happy 256 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: Dirty thirty. That was fantastic and it really was a 257 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: highlight of my life, really, and I just want to 258 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: say thank you for that. And um, I enjoyed the podcast. 259 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Thanks Sam, thank you so much. It means a lot 260 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: for you to tell me that story. You know, people 261 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: ask me about the work I do on cameo all 262 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: the time, and it's stories like that that that make 263 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: me keep doing it. Um, I appreciate it. Look, I 264 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: what I try to do is is not making about me, 265 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: but it's it's about It's about you, Sam. It's it's 266 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: your birthday, it's your graduation, it's your wedding. And if 267 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: that brings you to a moment in time that you 268 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: remember the show, that you have fond memories about Kevin 269 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: Malone or any of the other actors or scenes or 270 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: moments on the show, if that brings you to a 271 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: happy place, well Sam, then I'm happy. So thanks for 272 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: telling me that story. My best to you and thank 273 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and yeah, we're gonna we're 274 00:17:52,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna be back baby in two with even more podcast fun. Yeah. Hi, Brian. 275 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: So I had a situation at work that arose the 276 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: day after I listened to your Part three episode with 277 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Greg Daniels. And in that episode, Greg mentioned a situation 278 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: that arose when Chili's said they would not let you 279 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: produce the episode if Pam was was drunk and intoxicated 280 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: and I guess threw up in the episode. They said 281 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: they would not let you produce that episode, and um, 282 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: Greg turned to Steve, and Steve basically figured it out 283 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: as a creative improv person. He said, Okay, we can 284 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: do this, we can figure this out. So at my job, 285 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: I am a theater artist and actually a dance teacher 286 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: and a theater artist, and so we are putting together 287 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: a dance concert for the weekend and we get some 288 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: props from our technical director that just don't work, and 289 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: we have a couple of days before the show opens 290 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: and not a lot of time to rehearse with them. 291 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: So I was starting to get very frustrated, and instead 292 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: of letting myself get super frustrated that that episode just 293 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: clicked into my brain. It's like I had just listened 294 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: to it and it went I thought, be Steve Correll 295 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: in this moment, figure out how to make this work? 296 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: How can you make this work? So I said that 297 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: out loud. I said, Okay, guys, we have to go 298 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: with the flow here. How can we make this work? 299 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: And so my students and I came up with an 300 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: option that actually worked better than our original option. We 301 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: we modified the props ourselves, and we made it work. 302 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: So I wanted to thank you for that interview and 303 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: the whole podcast. Of course, it's just amazing. I listened 304 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: to it all the time, but that interview especially just 305 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: made me a little less stressed that day. So I 306 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: appreciate it, and I'm going to carry that with me. Thanks, Alyssa. 307 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: Between you and I and everybody listening, we could all 308 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: be a little bit more like Steve Carrell every day 309 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: and we'd be we'd be better off to remind people 310 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: or let people know what Alyssa's talking about. Yes, we 311 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: were two three days into full production, days from shooting 312 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the first Dundee's episode at Chili's. The script had been 313 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: written the script was not altered, but there were some 314 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: executive it was from Chili's who were there and did 315 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: not like Pam getting drunk at Chili's and basically we're 316 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: told you can't do that. And the entire episode, of course, 317 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: with Pam getting a little tipsy and eventually kissing Jim, 318 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: was a central central part of that episode. So yeah, 319 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Steve in the moment said okay, let's absolve chilies. Let's 320 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: shoot a couple of times where she's not over served, 321 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: but where she's stealing drinks, and let's have her be 322 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: banned for life for doing that. And that ended up 323 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: appeasing the good folks at Chili's, and um, obviously we 324 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: ended up going to Chili's a couple of more times 325 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: throughout the run of the show, so that all worked out. Yeah. 326 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, listen, Steve is to me the greatest improviser 327 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: of all time. And that's why right there he does 328 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: it when he's acting. His creative mind is always on story, 329 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: in character and and better than what anyone else can 330 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: come up with. And yeah, he saved that episode for sure. 331 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you were able to use that lesson. 332 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: And I said it as a joke, but I really 333 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: mean it. Watching Steve Correll, if you're an artistic person 334 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: do what he does will make you a better artist 335 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: or creative thinker. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Hi, Brian, 336 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 1: this is Tom Elliott over in the UK with some 337 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: thoughts for your listener feedback show. Now, you always ask 338 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: your guests why they think that The Office is more 339 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: popular now than ever, and I can't answer that question 340 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: for the US, but I can maybe answer that question 341 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: for a section of that audience over here in the UK, 342 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: because as my experience with becoming a fan of your 343 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: show is an experience that I've had echoed over and 344 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: over again by other British people in the last year 345 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: or two because the UK version of The Office it 346 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: was a game changer over here, you know, it really 347 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: changed the face of British comedy and pretty much everyone 348 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: loved that show. So when I heard that there was 349 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be a US version, I, like a lot 350 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: of other people over here, rolled my eyes and thought, oh, 351 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: here we go. You know, we didn't have high hopes 352 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: for it, so I wasn't expecting good things, but I thought, 353 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll watch the pilot and see how 354 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: they do, and then I watched the pilot. Now I 355 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: learned on your podcast why Greg chose to remake the 356 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: British Pilot to stop the network given notes. But unfortunately, 357 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: as a British viewer watching one of our crown jewels 358 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: of television being remade in that way, it instantly turn 359 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: me off because no disrespect to anyone involved, but I 360 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: think when something was so seminal and so perfectly done 361 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: the first time round, whoever tries to then recreate that 362 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: just as a huge mountain to climb in terms of 363 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: winning an audience over, no matter how talented they are. 364 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: So I, like a lot of my compatriots, turned off 365 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: the American Office at that point and didn't look back, 366 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: and then promptly just forgot about it. So one day 367 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: I put Netflix on my TV and I see that 368 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: they've put the American Office on there, and I noticed 369 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: that there's nine seasons, and I'm asking myself, how could 370 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: they have made nine seasons of this thing? How is 371 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: that even possible? But also my curiosity has peaked at 372 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: this point because, as you know, the British show has 373 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: twelve episodes and two specials, So what could they have 374 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: been doing for nine years on the U S show. 375 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: I guess they must have been doing something right. So 376 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: I watched the pilot again, and you know, it was 377 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: what it was. But it also been twenty years now 378 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: since the UK offer, so I'm a little less precious 379 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: about it, and I decided to just carry on. And 380 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: I find that the fair that out I get from 381 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: that pilot, the more and warm into this show and 382 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: these characters. And now it wasn't so much about making 383 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: a negative comparison to the British show. It was actually 384 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see where you guys would take it, to 385 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: see your show evolve and take on its own identity, 386 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: until we're actually at the point where each version justifies 387 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: its own existence because they are the same but different. 388 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: But that original question, why is the American Office more 389 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: popular now than ever? And as your guests have said, 390 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: there are many many reasons for that, But I think 391 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: from my corner of the world, one of the reasons 392 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: why it's popular here now is that we almost had 393 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: to forget about it two then Rediscovery, and I guess 394 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: we also had to get over ourselves a bit as well, 395 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: because the existence of one takes nothing away from the other, 396 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: and instead of having one classic show in the British version. 397 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: We now have two classic shows because the American version 398 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: is a classic too, So everybody wins. There's just there's 399 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: just more of it to love now, and what's wrong 400 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: with that? You know? So anyway, that's my thoughts on it. 401 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for a great show, Brian, and I look forward 402 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: to many more episodes to come. Tom, thank you so 403 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: much for your thought for comments. Truly, I wish I 404 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: had interviewed you before the book came out and before 405 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: I did all of these interviews for the podcast. You're very, 406 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: very insightful. You know. Look, we've talked about it quite 407 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: a bit, but I think what you say is probably 408 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: a hundred percent spot on. I mean, you cannot leave. 409 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: And those of you who we're not watching the show 410 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: are aware of what was going on back in two 411 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: thousand four five. Maybe you weren't born yet, the amount 412 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: of hate and vitriol for our show and the fact 413 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: that it even existed. I mean not to bring up 414 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: the sexiest man alive, Paul Rudd, but yes, Steve told 415 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: me that when he told Paul he was coming in 416 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: to read for it, Paul said, don't do it, don't 417 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: do it, and that's that wasn't rare. I mean, now 418 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: it seems silly, but at the time there were people 419 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: who would not do the show because of the British 420 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: version and how loved and beloved it had become, not 421 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: just in the UK, but over here in the States 422 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: by the time our show was on the air. So 423 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting Tom that that you talk 424 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: about that distance. And I also think it's interesting your 425 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: response to to the pilot episode. And that makes a 426 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. You know, now I go 427 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: on a variety television show or you know some program. 428 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: It happened this week. Actually for me, I appeared on 429 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: a show, and so often people want me to recreate 430 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: a scene from the office, and what I say to 431 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: them is no, no, we we can't do that. What 432 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: we what we have to do is if you want 433 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: to nod towards it, let's nod lightly. People will get 434 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: the joke, but let's do our own interpretation of that joke, 435 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: be it sitting on Santa's lab or spilling chili. For 436 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: me to attempt to recreate that moment that exists is 437 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: always going to pale in comparison, And so I think 438 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: it's very interesting what you say being so familiar, being 439 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: such a huge, huge fan in the UK of the 440 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: British version to see us, for lack of a better term, 441 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: try to just imitate that. Yeah, I'm sure for you 442 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: it would pale in comparison. So thank you for your comments. 443 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: I still haven't discovered quite the reason why I think 444 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of great answers. It's probably a 445 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: combination of many things, but your perspective from the folks 446 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: in the UK are very very interesting. So thanks Tom 447 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: for your comments, and and thank you so much for listening. Hey, Brian, 448 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: my name is Selmia from New York City. I'm a 449 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: huge fan of the podcast, and I have to say 450 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: that during the pandemic and during work from home, I'm 451 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: pretty much have the office on the background while I'm 452 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: doing work, so in many ways, I feel like I 453 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: work at dunder Mifflin. UM. I wanted to shout out 454 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: the episodes you had with the hair and makeup team. 455 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: I thought that was such a unique perspective and it 456 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: was great to hear from some really empowering female voices 457 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: that the fans don't get to hear from a lot, 458 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: so I thought their stories were really touching and it's 459 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: great to see how close they were with the cast. Um, 460 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: my question for you is what's kind of next for 461 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: this podcast? I know a lot of these interviews are 462 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: going to be featured in your upcoming book. Um, but 463 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: now that the book is coming out, like, what's next 464 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: do you see the podcast continuing? Are you going to 465 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: pivot into something else? Um? I know you have that 466 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: sweet sweet cameo money, so you know you don't really 467 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: need the day job, But what's kind of next for you? 468 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: And you know, Kevin Malone in two thanks so much. Hey, Semmia, 469 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much shouting me out from New York City, 470 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: which I've been in a lot recently, so it's becoming 471 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: my second home. In fact, thanks for your comments about Laverne, 472 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: Debbie Kim, the hair and makeup people. They were some 473 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: of my favorite conversations. And you know, look the the 474 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: hours that we spent together and the intense times that 475 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: we had. As as they said they were, they were 476 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: part therapist, part part confidante, part everything. It was great 477 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: to be able to sit down and spend some time 478 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: with them and hear their perspective on the show What's 479 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Next two? Well, I guess I guess that's simple. Off 480 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: the Beat a new podcast right here. You can still 481 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: find it right here on the Office deep Dive feed. 482 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: But as you know, we've talked to so many folks 483 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: from the office, and we'll continue to talk to some more. 484 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: But really we're going to expand and talk about television, 485 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: all of television, other shows and television classic shows. Will 486 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: start with some folks who had appearances on the Office, 487 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: but focus on some of their other work. I'm interested 488 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: in focusing on the moments that happened off the beat, 489 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: not the moments that everyone else has heard about two 490 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven thousand times, but moments in their 491 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: career or on their shows that we haven't heard about before. 492 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Because as a French director I once worked with told 493 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: me that comedy happens off the beat. It's the unexpected 494 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: moments that are often the most pleasurable and the most important. 495 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: So we will be back right here, same bat channel, 496 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: same bat time. I guess there's no time in podcasts, 497 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: but we're gonna keep talking to folks in television and 498 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: maybe some sports as well, about the moments that happened 499 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: for these people that you know and love that well, 500 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: maybe you've never heard before Greene's Mr Bumgarner. My name 501 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: is Marcus and I am a longtime fan of the Office. 502 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: I actually stumbled across the show because when it was premiered, 503 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: I already had the habit of watching must say must 504 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: see TV on Thursdays back since Seinfeld was on, so 505 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: I was a mediate fan. But one thing you do 506 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: is you often ask your guests what make The Office 507 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: even more popular today than it was back then when 508 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: it originally aired well, I was one of those people 509 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: who bought the seasons on iTunes when they dropped back 510 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: into two thousand's. I was in the U. S. Navy 511 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: and I was in and out of the country quite 512 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: a lot. I did miss big chunks of some of 513 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: the earliest seasons, so I would often binge them over 514 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: and over again on my laptop or or whatever I 515 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: had access to. But even more important, when I was 516 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times between two thousand 517 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: seven and two thousand twelve, I didn't have reliable internet 518 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: and streaming wasn't a thing. Um. I didn't have Netflix 519 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: streaming anything like that, and I'd watch entire seasons on 520 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: my laptop straight through, just from start to beginning, and 521 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: then repeat every time I wasn't actually working. Imagine a 522 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: dark tent, some dusty place, dirty, hot, miserable me lying 523 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: on a cot, you know, or sometimes just a piece 524 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: of plywood tucked in my sleeping bag, laptop resting on 525 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: my stomach, headphones on. So hopefully I went and disturbed 526 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: my neighbors sleeping only a few feet away, you know, 527 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: watching Brian go for the records stuffing Eminem's in his mouth, 528 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: or Stanley yelling. Did I stutter at Michael or Pam 529 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: holding her first art show. I can't count how many 530 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: times I stifled a tear or I'll definitely a laugh 531 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: to not again not wake up the person next to me. 532 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: But also, you know, watching these shows actually kept me saying, 533 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: And a lot of it has to do with that 534 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: whole I think you've talked about a lot that office 535 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: environment that just normal people. That's what I wanted to 536 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: fill was normal. So thank you forgive us a peek 537 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: behind the curtain through your podcast, and I have to 538 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: admit your sibling podcasts as well, Office Ladies. Both of 539 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: your shows have really introduced us to all the creative 540 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: masterminds that came together like a perfect chilly recipe to 541 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: make the office. Before I go, I wanted to say 542 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: the two of my favorite episodes of yours where the 543 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: conversations with Ben Silverman and the one especially with Debbie 544 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: Pierce and Kim Ferry. Both are examples of how deep 545 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: you really dove. Mr Silverman haven't been there at the beginning, 546 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: and it was really great to hear his side of 547 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: the story and how things really came together. But even 548 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: more where else and who else would give equal time 549 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: to make up and hair. I would just love to 550 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: learn how their department was organized and the challenges they face, 551 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: as well as their personal stories. You are a fantastic 552 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: human being for sharing them with us. Thank you, sir, 553 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: and I look forward to your next chapter. Marcus, you 554 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: horror fantastic human being. Thank you one for your service. 555 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: It's incredible to me knowing you were stationed abroad Iraq, 556 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: Afghanistan fighting for all of us back home, and the 557 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: visual image you paint of lying there on your cot 558 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: in a hot and dusty place getting some degree of 559 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: joy out of our show, it is moving to me. 560 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: It is incre incredible. It makes me so incredibly humbled 561 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: and grateful to have been a part of a show 562 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: that was able to give you, specifically Marcus, a respite 563 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: for what you were, what you were enduring at that time. 564 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for your call. And yeah, 565 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Ben Silverman is the man, there is no doubt about that. 566 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: But you know what, Debbie Pierce is the man, and 567 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: Kim Ferry and Laverne, Karacus Milazzo and everyone was important. 568 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: And that is what we have tried to show on 569 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: this show, what we wanted to have you experience all 570 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: of the good people in every position down the line. 571 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: Everybody had a part to play. And so thank you. 572 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: The fact that those two episodes are what you called out. 573 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: I love that. That gives me such incredible joy you 574 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: can't even imagine. So Marcus, God bless you. Thank you 575 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: again and and uh and thanks for listening and keep listening. 576 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, whenever we do this again, Marcus, 577 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: you have the bat phone whenever you want to call 578 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: if you have anything to say. UH, you're on my friend. 579 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: God bless and be well and happy, happy ist of 580 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: New Year's to you. Hi, Brian and team. I really 581 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: love your show and look forward to it every week. 582 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: In listening to the Ed Helms Part two episode, he 583 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: mentioned that the most common question he gets about The 584 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: Office is why he thinks the show is so popular 585 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: with kids and young people. His response was to ask them, 586 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. I wonder if you 587 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: could do an episode where you talk to young fans 588 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: about the show, and it's for why they like it 589 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: so much and why it resonates with them. Thanks for 590 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: doing the podcast. Well, well, well ask and you shall receive. 591 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, Elizabeth. Honestly, so many of you called in 592 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: to talk about just that why the Office resonates so 593 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: much with young people, which, by the way, it warms 594 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: my heart that the question that I asked so many 595 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: of my guests is one that you all have thought 596 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: about too. So I guess, um, well, I'm gonna give 597 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: you a little taste of some of the theories that 598 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: came my way. Brian bum Gardener, Oh my goodness, hello 599 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: everybody at the Office Deep Dive Team. I'm I'm a teenager, 600 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: and you often ask your guests on the show why 601 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: they think young people watch it. I feel like, not 602 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: only is it an obviously an amazing comedy with jokes 603 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: that hold up, but I feel like it is set 604 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: up like the lives that the current kids today live. 605 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: Children today constantly have cameras in their faces and are 606 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: talking to cameras um and I feel like The Office 607 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: is relatable to their generation. For this, it almost runs 608 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: like a YouTube show where you have so many doing 609 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: silly things and then performing for a camera, which is 610 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: also what kids, I feel like deal with in their 611 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: own homes. It's medicine. There are so many times that 612 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: I've watched The Office when I've needed a laugh, or 613 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: I have anxiety, or I'm sick, or there's just nothing 614 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: else that sounds good on TV. I have been watching 615 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: The Office since I was six years old. The Office 616 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: has meant so much to me um Over the years, 617 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: any time that I was going through something really hard 618 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: and I could not bring myself to smile, I could 619 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: always put on the Office and it was just so 620 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: familiar and comforting and safe and pleasant. And even moments 621 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: where I was in deep depression or sadness or pain 622 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: and nothing could make me smile, I could sit down 623 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: and watch the Office and get at least one little 624 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: grin out of me. And I think it's because it's 625 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: so real. A lot of these times these days, people 626 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: just want that real connection and it's hard to find 627 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: that with social media and everything. In the office, they're 628 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: just they're just real people, and people really connect to that. 629 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: And also like really romanticize his office life the show. 630 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: It does. I feel like I didn't picture myself working 631 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: in office before, but now I do. But even I 632 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't even know what I would do with the office, 633 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: I just pictured myself. They're just because of the office. 634 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: I think that kids, whatever varying age, identify with that 635 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: because it's kind of like what growing up is like, 636 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: that you don't always have a say in what you're 637 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: subjected to, and you don't always have control over your life, 638 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: and you feel like even how if it's right or wrong, 639 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: who knows, but that you know you're right, what you 640 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: want and need in that moment is right, and that 641 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: you can't help the situation the outcome, regardless of your 642 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: position or desire, whatever it is at the moment. So 643 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: I think that's why kids like it and and and 644 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: identify with Jim having to roll his eyes at Michael's 645 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: ridiculous nous or the insanity that is Robert California's you know, 646 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: who knows what he's pulling out at the moment. Anyway. 647 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: Thanks Lovely Need Podcast. It's been absolutely fantastic and huge 648 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:52,439 Speaker 1: fan um and yeah go Braves. Wow, you guys. Thank 649 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: you so much to all of you. Thank you, ZEFFI, 650 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: thank you, Katie Auv, thank you, kay Ela, Cela I 651 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: appreciate you and Tyler Go Dodgers. But thank you for 652 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: calling in and well for giving me your thoughts as 653 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: to why the show is so relatable to young people. 654 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: You're all well, you're always smarter than I am. Hi, Brian, 655 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: my name is Sarah Attison, and I'm sharing with you 656 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: my answer for a question that you often asked your guests. 657 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Why do these young children really love The Office so much? 658 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: What is it about it that makes them love it? 659 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: And my answer is pretty simple. It's straight up indoctrination. 660 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: Let me explain. I watched The Office what was airing 661 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: on TV, and I was in junior high, high school, 662 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: and then college. By the time it wrapped, The Office 663 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: just became my go to show. Much like Billie Eilish. 664 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: I always have it on. It's on in the background 665 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: while I work during the day. I listened to it 666 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: while I clean or while I'm out exercising. It's something 667 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: that I can always depend on for a laugh and 668 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: to make me feel good. That means that when I 669 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: was pregnant with my children, I watched a lot of 670 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: the Office, and in utero they did too, So all 671 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: of my babies were born knowing the theme song. They 672 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: would respond, they recognized it. When we would be holding 673 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: him and watching the show, the theme song would play 674 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: and they would perk up and they knew the song. 675 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: And all those late nights and late night feedings, I 676 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: would pop on the Office while I said my kids, 677 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: and I think that we really just from the start, 678 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: gave them a reason to associate the Office with comfort 679 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: and peace and safety and laughter and joy. And now 680 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: my three year old knows the Office. She announces when 681 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: anyone comes over that we're watching the Office because we're 682 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: always watching. And my one year old, when the theme 683 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: song comes on, immediately begins to smile and dance. And 684 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: they don't understand the jokes, but they know the characters. 685 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's brainwashing. We've indoctrinated them. That's definitely why 686 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: all these young kids like The Office now. And I 687 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: do have one question. Brian Um on Peacock The Home 688 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 1: of the Office. Now. Uh, they've started releasing the super 689 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 1: Fan episodes, which are longer cuts, putting in deleted scenes. 690 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you've watched the Superfan episodes and 691 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts some of them. The deleted 692 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: scenes inform or maybe even shift storylines a little bit. 693 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you have an opinion on breaking 694 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: Cannon or if that's just an addition and giving us 695 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: more light and insight into all of these characters. Thank 696 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: you for what to do. And now I'm gonna go 697 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: and watch more of the Office. Oh, Sarah, I love 698 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: your Doctor Nation theory. Um, let's go with it. I 699 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: love it. Uh, the in utero late night feedings that 700 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: they associate with comfort and happiness, that is well, that's awesome. 701 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: So then you have a really great question about the 702 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: extended episodes. So look, the short answer is no, I 703 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: have not gone to Peacock now. So, in doing all 704 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: this preparation for the podcast for writing the book, I 705 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: went back and watched everything in order. I watched the 706 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: run in order and then watched uh some episodes. When 707 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: I was about to talk to somebody, I would I 708 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: would watch some of their sort of signature episodes again, 709 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: either episodes they'd written or directed, or or important acting 710 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: episodes for them. So I watched it quite a bit. 711 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: I have not gone back, but I have seen on 712 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: the DVDs they released a lot of deleted scenes and 713 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: some extended episodes. Your question about the canon, though, is 714 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: where I'm going to focus, because Greg Daniels had the 715 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: same question as we were shooting. Does a webisode does 716 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: does information that you get from a webisode? Does that 717 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: become part of the cannon? Does a scene that was 718 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 1: shot but never aired? Does that become a part of 719 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: the cannon? Now, I think in some cases scenes that 720 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: were shot, and I would say this is a rare exception, 721 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: But in some cases a scene that were was shot 722 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: maybe didn't make it because we weren't sure we wanted 723 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: that information to come out about the character, or we 724 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: we didn't want the character to necessarily go in that direction, 725 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: or maybe it felt sort of inconsistent with the character 726 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: that that had been created it or that was going 727 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: to come up in the future, Uh, something different for 728 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: that character. So, um, that doesn't really answer the question. 729 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: But I will tell you that there was a bible, 730 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: a show bible that had the answers to all of 731 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: those things up in the writer's room, and when they 732 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: had a question about something, they would go back and 733 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: one find out where a character may have stood on 734 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 1: a particular issue in the past, or you know, what 735 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: a character's arc or journey had been from the beginning 736 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 1: of the show, And there were mentions as to whether 737 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: or not that information had gotten actually aired. It may 738 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: have been written, it may have been shot, it may 739 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: have been even in the first cut, but it was 740 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: impossible for me, by the way to even remember for 741 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: Kevin if something had actually aired or not, So I 742 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: tended to. I think Greg tended to for the most part, 743 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: fall on the side of if it was shot, then 744 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: it's part of the Bible. So I'd be interested though, 745 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: to know if you or any others have found moments 746 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: that have been added back in that now bring up inconsistencies. 747 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: That would be interesting for me. Thanks Sarah, Hi Brian. 748 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: My name is Maggie. I'm a high schooler and I'm 749 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: from Fairport, New York. UM. The Office means so much 750 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: to me. I really think it's one of the comfort 751 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: shows I go to, and it got me through COVID 752 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: and I'm probably one of the biggest fans I know. 753 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: I love the show. I know everything about the characters, 754 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: and I just love it so much. My question for 755 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: you is, when Michael leaves, he shows Kevin the poster 756 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 1: of the chair, But do you still have that poster 757 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: and if so, where did you put it? Anyways, I 758 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 1: would love to be featured on your podcast and I'm 759 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: just such a huge, huge fan and it would make 760 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: my world if I got a chance to speak with you. Maggie. 761 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I do have a poster, um 762 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: I haven't. I will admit to you. I have a 763 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: box of some memorabilia that has not actually been framed 764 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: or hung on a wall as of yet that falls 765 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: into that category. But I know I have it because 766 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: I remember the discussion that I had when I took it, 767 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: which was someone asked if I wanted a copy of 768 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: the poster, and I said, no, I want that copy 769 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: of the poster. And it was the poster that Steve 770 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: Well that Michael Slash Steve had had ripped in half, 771 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: and they didn't want to give it to me because see, 772 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: the prop people, they believe that any prop that's ever 773 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: used will have to be used again, So there are warehouses. 774 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe now they've gotten rid of it, or 775 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's in the Office experience in Chicago, there where 776 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: any prop that was used in an episode, they thought, well, 777 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: maybe we'll need it again, and so they didn't want 778 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: to give it up. I convinced them in this particular case, 779 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: that they could rip another one similarly enough if for 780 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: some reason it ever had to make an appearance on 781 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: the show. But yes, I have the Cherub poster. I 782 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 1: have the Cherub poster. Thanks for listening, Maggie. Hi Brian. 783 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: My name is Adeline and I'm from Rochester, New York, 784 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: and we're going on maybe the fourth time trying this, 785 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: just because I'm terrible at recording things like this. Um, 786 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four and I started watching The Office um 787 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: as it aired, so at the time, I was probably 788 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: in fourth grade, and um, I'll never forget watching the finale. 789 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: I put it off for a long time. Um. It 790 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: wasn't the same year that I graduated high school, but 791 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe getting close to when I 792 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: was going to be graduating and just a big change 793 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: and knowing I'm going to go away to college and 794 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: feeling like a chapter of my life was ending and 795 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: feeling like I grew up with the Office and grew 796 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: up with it by my side, and I had it 797 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: there for everything, you know, and when I knew it 798 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: was coming to an end, it almost felt like I 799 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: was going off on my own, um and starting starting 800 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: my own you know, life, and I'm not going to 801 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: have the Office to lean back on almost in a way. 802 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 1: And you know, you are trying to answer the question, 803 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: and you know, why is it so popular right now? 804 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: And why do people love it? And the obvious answers 805 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: the fact that it's more popular now because it's more 806 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: accessible on Netflix, and well, I mean, now it's not 807 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: on Netflix, but it was on Netflix, and now it's 808 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: on Peacock and you can watch it and you can 809 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: binge it. But I think, you know, the real, kind 810 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: of deeper answer is that it makes you feel like 811 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: you're a part of something, and you go to it 812 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: because you know what you're going to get, and you 813 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 1: get that comfort and you get that stability of feeling 814 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: like it's always going to be there for you. Um, 815 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: it's your support system. If you need to cry, you 816 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: know which episode to watch, obviously, if you need a 817 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: laugh and you need to feel good, but yeah, just 818 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: I thank you for doing this podcast because it allows 819 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: me to continue getting that same emotional connection that I 820 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: had with the show. It's just, you know, more content 821 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: in a different way. And I think it speaks to 822 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: me now being an adult and how I consume the 823 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,720 Speaker 1: content you know, differently in this different part of my life. 824 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: So thank you. Um, you all mean the world to me, 825 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: more than you will ever know. Well, Adeline, the third 826 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: time was the charm. Thank you for your incredibly thoughtful 827 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: and moving message. I appreciate your thoughts and I appreciate 828 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: you telling me that the podcast has brought you back 829 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: in a way to experience the show in a new way, 830 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 1: in a deeper way, like it's the first time again. 831 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: So thank you so much. God bless Happy New Year 832 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: to you, Adeline. And here's uh, here's for more in Hello. 833 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: My name is Cecilia Boyle and I'm from New Jersey. 834 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: I am ten years old and will probably one of 835 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: the youngest kids on this podcast. Um. My favorite scene 836 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: with Kevin Innitt is where he goes when Oscar comes 837 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: back and after Michael kisses him, and then Kevin goes, 838 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: how is your gay case in a screw? And um, 839 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: My question to Kevin slash Brian is if you could 840 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: change anything with any of Kevin's relationships with his coworkers, 841 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: or even change something about Kevin's backstory, what would it be. Well, Cecilia, 842 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: thank you for calling it. I think you've done it. 843 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: I think you broke the record. I think ten is 844 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: the youngest. Thank you for being such an articulate fan 845 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: and uh, such a big fan of the show. I 846 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Is there anything that I would change about 847 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: Kevin's backstory? I don't know about his back story, but 848 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: I wish that I wish that Kevin had found a 849 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 1: little more loving and I'll just phrase it like that. 850 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: I really liked those episodes, particularly the storyline around Valentine's 851 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: Day and uh finding Lynn. I just feel really fortunate 852 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: about the moments that I was able to play where 853 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: Kevin has a small victory. So I wish that for him. 854 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know so much about backstory, but I wish 855 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: that for him. And my hope for him now is 856 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: in New Year's Eve one to two, I hope that 857 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: he is behind his bar, let's call it Malone's in 858 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: Scratton and he's serving drinks, maybe having a few and 859 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: having an absolutely great night. That's what I hope. Thanks Cecilia. 860 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, that is that for today's call an episode. Now, 861 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to be too cheesy, but when you 862 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: work on something, really, on any creative project, all you 863 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: can hope is that one that people will see it 864 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: and that they will respond to it. But the way 865 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: that you fans have responded to the Office, I never 866 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: even dreamed that that was possible. Never in in mine 867 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: or any of our wildest dreams did we believe that 868 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: was possible. So thank you so much for sending in 869 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: your thoughts, your stories which are so moving, your comments, 870 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: and of course all of your love. Thank you. I 871 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: feel it, I feel the love and I am sending 872 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: it right back to you. Have an incredible week, well, 873 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 1: have an incredible rest of the year. Really, be safe 874 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: out there, and hey, guess what, guys, I will see 875 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: you next year in two The Office. Deep Dive is 876 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,399 Speaker 1: hosted and executive produced by me Brian bum Gartner, alongside 877 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Liz Hayes and 878 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: Diego Tabia. My main man in the booth is Alec Moore. 879 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: Our theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great 880 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by seth 881 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: Olandscape