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Speaker 3: It's it's a common denominated uncle. You said it all

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a miscommunication between Kayler

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those d yeah, they were, they were. He listen,

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Speaker 1: That's why you kind of got You want guys with

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Speaker 2: You have to understand, you have to you have to contain.

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Speaker 3: You. Hey, if I'm the eater, you don't see me coughing?

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Speaker 1: Well, if Minnesota wants to, don't. If Minnesota doesn't want

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Speaker 3: They left behind already. They are left behind already, because

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Speaker 2: Hey find the Jared golf Well, you have Sam Donald.

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Speaker 3: You let him walk, You let it walk out the

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I totally agree with everything you just said.

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Speaker 1: we got an epic game. We got an epic match

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Speaker 2: But Rashid Shaheed took that play, that kick come back.

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Speaker 2: The game was over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, taking a take, take the win right up out

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Speaker 4: Over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was over. It was over. But this was

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Speaker 1: Two very evenly matched teams, Matthew Stafford, two gun slingers,

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Speaker 2: Uh, Caleb looked good. I agree with you, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I think with the talent that they surrounded him with

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Speaker 1: Manongeang manongee mo nangi MANONGI yeah him, hey he rubbed, Hey, he'd.

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Speaker 2: Be running people over Joe.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't play. He don't go damn, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, he running behind his path. You know we usual, hey,

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Speaker 1: But I thought Swift ran the ball really hard tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yep, analytics is running the game instead of instead of

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Speaker 3: Going for it on fourth down, I mean they were,

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe. We used to like, Okay, it's fourth and one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we go for it once. I mean we might go.

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Speaker 1: You might have in a situation where you're not losing,

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Speaker 3: You got to understand why they're going for it too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same way, but they gave him the catch, did

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Speaker 3: The receiver's catching the ball and the DB's right there,

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Speaker 1: Well, it couldn't have been incomplete because the guy caught

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one or the other.

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Speaker 1: But I was surprised. I was surprised because I'm looking

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Speaker 3: Boy, he was dealing, and he came. He came one

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, when you have that kind of

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Speaker 2: I get the ball to you, I get I definitely

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Speaker 1: That played their division nemesis, the Seattle Seahawks twenty to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Seattle physical both sides. They want to run the football

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Speaker 3: Is Charbono good and Charping no good. Because then he

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 1: You gotta great chance to winning if you don't put

436
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Speaker 1: the ball in the hardway. He turned the ball over,

437
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: you're not going You're not gonna represent the NFC and

438
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl now. So I'm just letting you

439
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: guys know, just hope Sam Darnald does do what he's

440
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: been doing, which is not turning the football over.

441
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he turned it over in that.

442
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: Last regular season that last regular season game against the

443
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. They got forty nine ers a game.

444
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: He didn't turn it over. He needs to he needs

445
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: to repeat that song. Just play that this replay. Just

446
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: put that on replay, repeat, and keep playing it over

447
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: and over. Because if you take care of the ball,

448
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: there's an excellent chance that you're gonna go to the

449
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: NFS that the Super Bowl. According to the NBC sideline

450
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Speaker 1: reporter Melissa start Rams, player who was putting Kyne Pepper

451
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: in their socks to stay warm against the Bears.

452
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Speaker 3: Hold on, Kyanne Pepper, What the hell Kyne Pepper gonna

453
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: do in those kind of conditions?

454
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: Still Pepper? It heats up?

455
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Speaker 3: Boy, unc that's the new one that boy, I ain't

456
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 3: never heard it. I ain't never heard of that one.

457
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: Well, when you put a what icy hot? Being gay?

458
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: Nobody used to put that in people's job And when

459
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: you start sweating, what it do? Oh you?

460
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't never use that before. The only thing

461
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: I had what do you call it? Warmans they give

462
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: you and you break.

463
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't have those either.

464
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing I know about.

465
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: And I used to.

466
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: I used to take the hand woman's once it got cold, unk,

467
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: I take one, break it up, let it get warm,

468
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: and I put it on the inside of my gloves.

469
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put one on the I could I have

470
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Speaker 1: I mean, if they called time out or I went

471
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Speaker 1: to the sideline, I would have them.

472
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Speaker 2: But I didn't have no pouch. I ain't need none

473
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: of that pouch.

474
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: Oh well look at you.

475
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Speaker 1: Okay, No, no pouch. The last time the Rams won

476
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Cooper Cup was the MVP. Next week,

477
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: the Rams to try to get back to the Super

478
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Bowl with Cooper Cup now on the opposite sideline as

479
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: a member of the Seahawks. Look, he knows this offense.

480
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: He knows that when they're getting something from and you

481
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: hear certain calls, he could call it out because he's

482
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: that kind of smart. He's got kind of player. How

483
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: much they rely on that. The film study normally tells

484
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: you maybe he can give him some intricate season, like

485
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: when you hear certain calls on y'all, this is what

486
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: that means. Because it was always interesting when we play

487
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: a West Coast team to hear they try to disguise it.

488
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: Reba bro I know what Lucy is, and I know

489
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: what Slugo is, and I know what all that. I

490
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: know this, and I know smoke square out come back

491
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: I know we knew all that, and we know we

492
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: alllays trying to give us those Bogey Dubby calls too, So.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, get that mess out here. Oh y'all.

494
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna talk about the Texans Patriots game of

495
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: the bit, but first it's time to welcome Broncos cornerback

496
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Speaker 1: Takwan McMillan.

497
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: J Matt.

498
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Speaker 1: Walk us through that place, because I know your heart

499
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: was beating fast. You let Brandon Cooks kind of get

500
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: behind you, like, oh my goodness, we had the ball first.

501
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: If they if he catches this ball there at the

502
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: twenty yard line there in the field goal range, considering

503
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: Matt Prater kicked for almost a decade in Denver and

504
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: he had just made a fifty yard field goal to

505
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 1: send it to overtime. So you're like, okay, what's going

506
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: walkers through that play? What's going through your mind? Because

507
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: you look up and you see the ball take it

508
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: from there?

509
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man?

510
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 4: Who was actually in zero? We're in zero coverage, yep.

511
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 5: And I see Josh Adam like and kind of bring

512
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: to it like a twenty look which protection look yeah,

513
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 5: And I'm just thinking to my head like, oh man,

514
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 5: like okay, pick up.

515
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 4: You know, they got to pick up the blitz, so

516
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 4: I kind of back up a little bit.

517
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Speaker 2: It was like thirty ten.

518
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: It was like thirty ten. So I'm right at the sticks.

519
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm playing at the sticks.

520
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: I know I got yet.

521
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: Droppers at the hook, but you know they ain't really

522
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: ain't really gonna help, you know what I'm saying.

523
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Speaker 4: So I'm playing sticks. He running and.

524
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 5: He kept going, so I just kind of gave him

525
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 5: a little jab and running. That's how he had me

526
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 5: by like a yard or two. You kind of he

527
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: kind of underthrow it and you know, I'm just running, running,

528
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: and I try not to pan it. Man, I didn't panic,

529
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: and I seen his eyes getting big, and I'm like, okay,

530
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: the ball is in the air. So once he starts

531
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: snoring down, okay, I'm like, now I'm like, okay, the

532
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: ball is under thrown. So now I'm just playing through

533
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: his hands. I'm just waiting on the ball to drop.

534
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 5: So I'm like really having my hands, you know, through

535
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 5: his hands. And uh, once he he had it at

536
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: first coming down, and then once I got my hand

537
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 5: on the ball, I'm falling with him.

538
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: And once we fell together, he lost control and I

539
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 4: just gaved it out of his hands.

540
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Speaker 1: And I mean you like you said, okay, I'm playing

541
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Speaker 1: through his hands and that you and I was talking

542
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: about this a receiver sometimes.

543
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: They give it away. They give a tail away. Yeah,

544
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: a receiver. It with late hands. It's very difficult for

545
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: you because he'll wait to the last second to pluck it. Right.

546
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: Some guys can keep their eyes just like normal, like

547
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: when did the ball coming? And next thing you know,

548
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: it's in alarm. A lot of guys can't control their eyes.

549
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh my goodness, and the eyes get bigger.

550
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, the balls in the air, Like you said,

551
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: the balls in the air. So now you're playing through

552
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: his hands. You're like, okay, I got the ball. He

553
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: got the ball, but the problem is he falls. You

554
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: fall on top of him and pull it.

555
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

556
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: Did you know did you think, like, what are they

557
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: gonna call? Are they gonna give me the interception? Are

558
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: they gonna say you die by contact? Are they gonna

559
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: say incomplete? What is your thought process? What's going through

560
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: your head? Play every scenario? What you're thinking?

561
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, once I came up, once I had the

562
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 5: ball in my hand, I kind of rolled on top

563
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 5: of him. I get up and I'm holding the ball

564
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 5: in the air and you can see in the video

565
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the backs of It's like, okay, what

566
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: you're gonna call on doing this? And point the out

567
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: of direction. I'm heading to the end zone. I'm about

568
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: to celebrate it. So once I see him do that,

569
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 5: it was over with.

570
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Speaker 3: The funny thing about it, too, is that there's been

571
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: so much controversy about that play. A lot of people

572
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: saying that obviously the Bills got hold because of the

573
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: play call was wrong. But obviously what happens is is

574
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: there was a smooth transition from him catching and you

575
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: coming up with the ball to where the call was

576
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: made the right way. The call was made the right way.

577
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: In order to have a completed catch, the person has

578
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: to come down with the ball, secure the ball, and

579
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: be able to get up with said ball, and that

580
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: was you who got it with the ball. So I'm

581
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: not sure how the people don't understand the rules. And

582
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: one of the things that that that kind of gets

583
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: everybody upset is because tonight we had something very similar

584
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: with Devontae Adams, and there's no consistency with plays that

585
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: are like that, So I think that's where the confusion

586
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: comes in. That it just that the refs they have

587
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: to find some of the competition committee, whoever it is,

588
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: They need to find a way to have the calls

589
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: always remain consistent based on the rules that those that

590
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: have already played the game no and were able to

591
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: call right away when you got the interception, J.

592
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Speaker 1: Mac, did you did you know the rules that if

593
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: a receiver catches the football goes to the ground, he

594
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: must survive the content from the ground and to and

595
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: possess the football. Because you survived the you he he

596
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: caught it, You took it, survived the contact from the ground,

597
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: and got up with the ball. That's the way called chefferis.

598
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: That's where all the referees that have been going on

599
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: shows explained it. It's like, yes, there was a transition

600
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: that on the way down that.

601
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: The dB took the ball, he survived the contact from

602
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: the ground and got up with the ball.

603
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: So what we have is an interception. It can be

604
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: It can't beat any anything but an interception. What did

605
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: what did the VJ? What did advance tell you? Because

606
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: I know he was like, oh my goodness, we just

607
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: went bomb blendzed. We just blew it up. They max

608
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: protect because, like you said, they went twenty protection. They

609
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: brought two extra guys in, so now whatever you come with,

610
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: they can pick it up. They got seven protectors. They

611
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: got enough to hold it off because you know, hey,

612
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: you go here, you go here. They always go in

613
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: bombs in the bomb situation, they always send one player deep,

614
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: at least one you and you like, hold on, wait

615
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: a minute, damn, they can pick this up. Oh Lord,

616
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: have mercy Jesus. I'm like here by myself, and this

617
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: guy can still run. He might not run four three

618
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: like he did coming out, but he can still go

619
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: on the run.

620
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: He was running, but DJ can just man, he was

621
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: just excited.

622
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: Man. He was like, hey man, you made a play,

623
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: which you always do. Man, I always, you know, come

624
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 5: up and the clutch time that made I made the play.

625
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: Man.

626
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: It was just it was just crazy, man.

627
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: But man, it's it's people don't understand. It's a whole

628
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: different animal. Playing the slot as opposed because the slot,

629
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: he can go across the field, start in and come

630
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: back out. He can start out, come back in, he

631
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: can go up to scene, he can go far across,

632
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: he can go sail.

633
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: He can go stop. He can do so many things.

634
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're playing like you're based in formation down

635
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: in distance of where he is on the field. So

636
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: you've studied the game, like, okay, in this formation, this

637
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: down and distance, this area of the field, he likes

638
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: to run this and so you kind of play, but

639
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: you can't get too aggressive because if he optioned away

640
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: from you, yeah.

641
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: You got a position.

642
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, like like I said, we had two hook droppers.

643
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: You can see in the video you see Nick, but

644
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: you know he dropped.

645
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, even though we're in zero, I

646
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: can line up like head up to outside, right, Okay.

647
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 5: In the slide, you always you got to pick a

648
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: leverage because you yeah, two way go. You gotta make

649
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 5: sure you know, okay, he can't come this way. And

650
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 5: if you go this way, okay, I'm already caught. I'm

651
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: already opening to run.

652
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: So that's what I was.

653
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: I was head up to outside. Yeah, if they do

654
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: anything quick, I knew I had my help defending low,

655
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 5: help help defend on the hook. So he kept running.

656
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 5: You know, I just played outside leverage and gave him

657
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: with a jab and I just ran with him, just

658
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: ran and like I said, he just played through his hands. Man,

659
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: but he was rolling, man, he was rolling. The ball

660
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: was a little bit unthrown. He slowed down a little bit.

661
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 5: That kind of helped me, but just made him play.

662
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: When he showed you the ball. Also, Ocho and I

663
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: was talking about it last night. If he left that

664
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: ball kind of like with Marvin mimes. Marvin let the

665
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: ball go over, so now you gotta run through him.

666
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: He opened up allowed you.

667
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 4: He kind of jumped in the air. He kind of

668
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: jumped in the air. So it came like it helped me.

669
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: Yes, because Ojo, remember we talked about a lot of

670
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: times when guys jump up in the air. That's how

671
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: guy's punching out because you got no leverage. You're not grounded.

672
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: That's why it's so easy to get the ball out

673
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: when the guy's up in the air. You see guys

674
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: try to go up over a running back or warbers.

675
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: He would try to go up. It's easier because they

676
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: don't have no stability.

677
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: They're not on the ground. And you said, when he

678
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: jumps up, okay, now he ain't as strong as.

679
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: He would be if he was on the ground.

680
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: And plus he got I know one thing if you

681
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: play basketball, I know the guy he's got to bring

682
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: the ball up, So he got to bring it to me. Well,

683
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: he got to bring it down because he's gonna try

684
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: to get it to his body. Opportunity. You bring it

685
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: to your body, I will shoot through and I'm gonna

686
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: get it.

687
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Once he came down

688
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 5: with that mud. I'm already in this between. Yes, I'm

689
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 5: already in the pocket. So he brought the football to me,

690
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: and I just filled with him and rip that thing out.

691
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: In those pressure situations like that, especially understanding its cover zero.

692
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: You on the island all by yourself. Most of the time,

693
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: they've all got to come out short. But you got

694
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: your hooked, you got your hook, you got your hooks

695
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: coming up coming to help you out right. Most of

696
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: the ball, the ball got to come out fast, even

697
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: though he had that step on you and you got

698
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: you got to play catch up. How do you stop

699
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: yourself from panicking in situations like that where you know

700
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: you beat, Because that's the hardest thing for dbs is

701
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: when you know you got to catch up, you lose

702
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: all technique and all you're doing is just running, just going.

703
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: How were you able to keep yourself in a relaxed

704
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: mind state to make that play you did make.

705
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: Just reading them the receiver, just reading him. Once he

706
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: slowed down, I knew the ball, you know, with short,

707
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: so I had to adjusted that. And you can see

708
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: in the video I kind of like once he slowed down,

709
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 5: I see him jumping. I kind of turned my head

710
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: a little bit, yeah, and got my hand up in there.

711
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: But man, it's just it's practice. It just takes practice,

712
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: you know, a receiver, and that's what that's how you

713
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 5: stay calm just in the moments.

714
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one it's one thing to say it. It's

715
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: one thing to say it, but you know, practice and

716
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: practice is easy to stay calm. But in the game time,

717
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: in game time, you know, shoot man ship. But you

718
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 3: see it all the time where every every Sunday.

719
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: We always we always had it.

720
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 5: We always talked to like force the receiver to make

721
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: the catch. You know what I'm saying, mm hm, fight

722
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 5: them all the way to the ground, That's what I'm saying.

723
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 4: Like, that's what I did.

724
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: Just fight him allway into the ground. And you know,

725
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: I just the ball just so happened to be in

726
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: my hand. But I was gonna get the ball out regardless.

727
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 5: That's what I'm say, gonna get the ball out regardless.

728
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: And j Max.

729
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: But here is the difference between practice and the game,

730
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: because then practice is quiet, and you hear him.

731
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: Saying ball ball, ball ball, you start looking. You can't

732
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: hear ish in the game. They could be screaming ball

733
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: ball ball nothing they about what be just because you

734
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: don't hear a fid Yeah, but.

735
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: He's just reading there. He's just like I said, he's

736
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 5: just reading the receiver. Man, he's gonna he's gonna tell

737
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: you when the ball is right there. And he jumped

738
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 5: up in there. He gave me all the signs that

739
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: the ball was right there.

740
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: Celler, Yeah, yeah, did you watch it?

741
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: And did you watch any of today's game between the

742
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Texans?

743
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

744
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: What what do you?

745
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: What do you?

746
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 4: What do you?

747
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you see? What do you

748
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: see on film? What? I mean?

749
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: They gotta come there. Obviously everybody knows Bo Knicks is

750
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: done for the year. You're going with your backup. Jared Stenham,

751
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: who at at one point in time he was they started,

752
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: he started from the Patriots, started for the Raiders. So

753
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: now he's been I think he's been there for like

754
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: three years. I think he's been there two or three years.

755
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: So you know what you're going you know what you're

756
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: going up against. You're gonna have to do what you've

757
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: done all year. Play to your strength, but you're gonna

758
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: have to do you know, help help you help your

759
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: young quarterback out man.

760
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got a good quarterback, good run game. Uh uh,

761
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: they use they roll off the rank game play a

762
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: runoff play action. Got uh a decent receiver cord Man.

763
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 5: But I haven't watched too much. I just watched the game,

764
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 5: so I don't really know too much about them. But

765
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 5: from baseball, I see he had the good run game,

766
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: and it's kind of helping them, you know, the past game.

767
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Mhm, you like watching you.

768
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: If if I'm playing the team, if I know that

769
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: team is on our schedule, I can't watch him on

770
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: TV copy because I would get a false sense. If

771
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: they played bad, I was like, oh, yeah, we're about

772
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: to run through these dudes. And if they played good,

773
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness, Lord have mercy, how we

774
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna score on these guys. So I I never watched it.

775
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted to, Hey, just give to cut up,

776
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: Just give it a breakdown and I'll take it from there.

777
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: So you actually watch a team that you're gonna actually play,

778
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: do you do? You do you get the TV copy

779
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: to try to hear you know, uh calls or anything

780
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: like that. Cats, if you're gonna come off the blitz

781
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: or anything, do you do you watch the TV copy

782
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: and try to pick up the sound because some guys

783
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: some defensive line, but obviously try to get the catus

784
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: of the quarterback.

785
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

786
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 5: I kind of watched the TV compy kind of like

787
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: on the back end of the week. You know, I

788
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: get my cutups first. I watched as first second down

789
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 5: earlier in the week, and then the next day I

790
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 5: might do the third down and do that, and then uh,

791
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 5: towards the later the week closer to the game, I

792
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 5: watch the TV copies because you know, to coming to you,

793
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 5: this kind of give you a lot of information. You

794
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: watch it, they do you know what I'm saying, And

795
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: you pick up on little sign based on like chicks

796
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 5: and you hand signals and stuff like that. And you know,

797
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: how is this guy does he like to hard help

798
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying? He just you know, I'm

799
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 5: reading everything his first reads.

800
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

801
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 5: Just listen into the comming to you and seeing how

802
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: the game flow, how they, how they you know the

803
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 5: floor of the game is going.

804
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

805
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 5: But I don't watch too much of the TV copy.

806
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: I'm more of a cut up guy, you know, Yeah,

807
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: watching formations and.

808
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: Things like that.

809
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: So based on what you've seen so far, based on

810
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: what you know about them, even though you haven't gotten

811
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: into preparing for that game against them, is there anyone

812
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: on the Patriots that you see might be able to

813
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: give you fits on the opposite side of you or

814
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: you feeling comfortable going to that game where it ain't nothing.

815
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: I got this.

816
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: I just have to be technically sound, yeah, and be

817
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: disappeared with my eyes, and I'm gonna be alright.

818
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 5: When I always go into the game like man, if

819
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 5: I just do what I do my job and have

820
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 5: my eyes where it's supposed to be in playoff technique, man,

821
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 5: I feel like I just can't be beat.

822
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 4: But that's just how I feel.

823
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. I like it. You

824
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: guys got tomorrow if you got to go in and

825
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: watch film, you got anything, or you got tomorrow off.

826
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 4: We going for like a team meeting, but we don't

827
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: do too much.

828
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: It's like a regular week now, So go in and

829
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: team meet and then we have Tuesday off and then

830
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 5: we start back at Okay, Yeah.

831
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: Man, congratulations, Man. I was that, Man I was.

832
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: I said, man, that the Broncos lose this game after

833
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: getting five after getting five turnovers, I'm gonna lose my mind.

834
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lose man. I was gonna lose my mind.

835
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: But I talked to uh Pat ps two before the game,

836
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: and I think you know now is that there are

837
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: no insignificant plays in the postseason. Every play matters in

838
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the regular season. You might can brush a playoff in

839
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: the first or second quarter, but you can't do that

840
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: in the in the postseason. I give you a prime example.

841
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: You remember, I think it was the second quarter. You

842
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: remember when Coleman dropped that ball in the end zone

843
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: and people say, ohoh, glad he dropped it because it

844
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: was a penalty. But if he catches it, you guys

845
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: are gonna have to gonna have to accept the penalty.

846
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Now you give Josh Allen another did o't yo? Now

847
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: because he dropped it, we can decline the penalty instead

848
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: of giving him another crack to get seven. They had

849
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: to settle for three. See, there are no its significant plays.

850
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: People like trying to well, you know, it really didn't

851
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: matter in the grand scheme of things come postseason, every

852
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: play matters. Talk to Sean and I know Sean, but

853
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: Sean told you guys it like Sean, Hey, you've been here.

854
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: You know what it's like.

855
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, we're ready to play. Were ready and

856
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: you gots Matt. You guys got to put that away.

857
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: They come out, you get you get the strip sacked,

858
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: Benito chops it, You get the ball, you kick a

859
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: field goal, going into going going into the half. They

860
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: get the ball, Benito hits them in the back. You

861
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: get the ball to the nineteen, put them away. You

862
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: gotta touch down the touch down there.

863
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: You put them away.

864
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: Game over.

865
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's uh, that's one thing about like NFL football, man,

866
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: Like we like you said, we got the force fumble

867
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 5: right before it half three points and then come back,

868
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: you know for another fumble and we've done all this

869
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: and the game is still close.

870
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: It's like still like you know what I'm saying, Like

871
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: it's yes, lo game, it's a long game.

872
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: And if crazy it's a long game, playoff game is

873
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 5: the atmosphere is just crazy. It's different, different, the tempo

874
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 5: is different flows. I mean, it's a different it's a

875
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: different world.

876
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Man, that stadium got so quiet when they took the

878
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: league because they got they got a field goal, and

879
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: then they came back and they took the leading and

880
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: made it twenty four to twenty three. That might have

881
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: been the quiets I've ever heard my high because they're like,

882
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: hold on, we got four turnovers. We were kicking the

883
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: issue out of them the whole game.

884
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: How they got the league, That's what that's would be

885
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: the crazy point.

886
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: Like man, like you would think, like if you don't

887
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 5: even look at the school boy, you're just thinking, like, man,

888
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 5: we were we on them, like we on them, dominating. Yeah,

889
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 5: then yea, we dominated them and then they scored one.

890
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 5: It was like damn, they right back in it, right

891
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 5: back in crazy man. Well, congratulations, that's one of the

892
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 5: biggest players in Bronco history. Uh and postseason play, congratulations proud.

893
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: I think you a.

894
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Benito gonna probably be ALC Defensive Player of the Week.

895
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: Use Benito got two forced fumbles. You gotta pick. I

896
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna be out of you and Carlton Davis.

897
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: But I think one of you guys gonna probably be

898
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: the ALC Defensive Player of the Week. But congratulations, great

899
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: season thus far.

900
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: Hey, I got it, Matt, I got a question.

901
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Matt. Can you hear me?

902
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? Hear you.

903
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 3: Hey, if I was playing today right, like hypothetic speaking,

904
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: if I was playing in today game, you think you

905
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: think you can cover me?

906
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: Of course? One hundred.

907
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: I'm being serious. You're talking to I know who I'm

908
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: talking to.

909
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 4: I know exactly who I'm talking to. I know I

910
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: don't you know. I don't watch them my life, so

911
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: you know you're talking to j Matt.

912
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: We do know.

913
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: I know.

914
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: Listen, I know I know your Bronco. But I mean,

915
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean he said you can cover me. I mean

916
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: you think you can cover me? Right now?

917
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: What o y'all? Of course with the lineup when got

918
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: locked up, whatever we.

919
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: Can we could do something. Listen, your whole, your whole

920
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: can there can come get this work now. Ain't nothing

921
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: wrong with my feet.

922
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: Hey, lean, duncan none the whole secondary.

923
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: All right, I'm in Miami, come on down here.

924
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: I'll be down there. I'll be down there.

925
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, after y'all, after y'all got yeah, Yeah, I got you.

926
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: And you're nervous. How I can hear in your voice nervous.

927
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: I ain't never nervous. One thing about J. Matt, he

928
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: one thing about J.

929
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: Max.

930
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 4: I don't care who I line up against. Yeah yeah,

931
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: anybody can get it.

932
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: Hold on this me, now, this ain't this, ain't them,

933
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: this million I'm the original ship talk. But it's me.

934
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: I know that, I know who you are.

935
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: Okay, but on J Matt Oh damn Ronco country. Hey, hey,

936
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: have a good one, boy, man. I salute you, Man,

937
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: I salute you.

938
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: Appreciate y'all.

939
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Congratulations man, great week, keep it going, man, a one

940
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: more we were so close one boy, appreciate it man.

941
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Sawa McMillan, Denver Broncos. The Patriots

942
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: beat the Texas by the score of twenty eight to

943
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: sixteen to reach the AFC Championship Game. New England earned

944
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: their first AFC Championship trip since twenty eighteen.

945
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: It's up a clash with the Denver Broncos.

946
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. It always comes down to, you know,

947
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: Peyton and Tom. Yeah, the Victor Chiefs alive a fifteen

948
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: year street whether. Every AFC title game since twenty eleven

949
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: has featured either the Patriots or the chief The last

950
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: without them was Pittsburgh over the Jets.

951
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: In twenty ten. C J.

952
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Stroud had arguably his worst game of his three year career,

953
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: throwing four interceptions in the first half. He finished with

954
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: twenty and forty seven two hundred and twelve yards and

955
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

956
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: Rating of twenty eight.

957
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Striuved four deceptions in the first half time for the

958
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: most in a playoff game since at least two thousand.

959
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: C J.

960
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Stroud passer rating was twenty eight o JO. If he

961
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: had taken the snap and just backed up in into

962
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: the ground, if quarterback rader would have been thirty nine

963
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: point six.

964
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 3: Hey, yep, that was embarrassing. That was embarrassing. You can't

965
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: you can't do You got the best defense in the NFL.

966
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: You got the best defense in the NFL. You got

967
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 3: away with it last week, and you watch film all week.

968
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: All right, I can't go into this game. I understand

969
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: the importance of this game. I can't do one thing.

970
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: I can't put the ball in harm's way, I can't

971
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: turn them all over. I just can't and the watch

972
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: film to understand that you got by by the grace

973
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: of God, and you come back in this game and

974
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: you still do come on nine. You got the best

975
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: defense that can take you all the way to sit

976
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: inta Clara. All I have to do is the quarterback

977
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: of this team is don't put the ball.

978
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: In harms way, don't turn it over.

979
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: That's it.

980
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds easy, obviously sitting here on the

981
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: goddamn you know.

982
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But I would have thought he learned

983
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: his lesson Monday night. O Joe.

984
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: We talked about it. We talked about it, O Joe.

985
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: He fumbled four times, he got they got two of

986
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: them back. Yeah, so he had two fumbles and two picks, right?

987
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: Or did he have two fumbles in one pick? What

988
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: did you have on Monday? But he got seven turnovers

989
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: in two games, O Joe. This is what Troy Aikman

990
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: said on the broadcast.

991
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: C J.

992
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: Stroud has been chasing his rookie success for the last

993
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: two years. He's not been the same player. We've not

994
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: seen the development from him. There's a reason for that

995
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: and it needs to be addressed now. When Shannon said CJ.

996
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: Stroud has not been the same since his rookie year.

997
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: What they say, oh Joe, go ahead and tell him,

998
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: because they what they say, what they say about when

999
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: when when I say has not been the same.

1000
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: They say you hate not they say you hate, you hated?

1001
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: Where's that energy for the white quarterback? Now? What y'all

1002
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: say about Troy?

1003
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: Maybe because Troy played the quarterback position, and I give

1004
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: you know what, I give you that right, he played

1005
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: at an elite level. The guy with a Super Bowl

1006
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: MVP led a team to three super Bowls. So if

1007
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: you want to say, what Shannon Troy know more about

1008
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: that position, I'll conceive that. But all he said was

1009
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: the same exact same thing that I said. It was

1010
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: just a different voice.

1011
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: You see. C J. Stroud.

1012
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: He got intoxicated about the success that he had. Listen

1013
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: at him talk. He this man said, here's rookie season.

1014
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: He was one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL.

1015
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: As a rookie. He was going on everybody's platform. He

1016
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: that guy, He that guy, and.

1017
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: He's regressed every year. But y'all don't want to have

1018
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: real conversations. Y'all want y'all want us to because before

1019
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: well you wanted guys like oh Joe and myself, guys

1020
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: that played the game, guys that played the game at

1021
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: an elite level. But then when we tell you the

1022
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: hardest truth, well, oh the word that energy. I said

1023
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: something today on y'all say think about this, Think about

1024
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: I say, Chace, think about this. If we want to

1025
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: debate Peyton and Tom uh, Joe Montana and Patrick Mahomes, Okay,

1026
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: we could critique that. I say, think about this. Here

1027
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: y'all talking about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Neither guy

1028
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: has won a championship, and now we're debating who's turned

1029
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: them all over the most.

1030
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: In the playoff game.

1031
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Let that think it something we've never done before. We're

1032
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: not talking about championships where we could compare. You want

1033
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: to compare Lebron where Lebron got four championship Kobe got five.

1034
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: Lebron got four, MVPs Kobe got one. Lebron got four

1035
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: Finals MVPs Kobe got two. Kobe's been in nineteen nineteen

1036
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: All Star Lebron has twenty one All Star Game MVP.

1037
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: If you want a debate that, we can have a conversation.

1038
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: But since when do we debate guys that don't have

1039
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: a championship, we start based, we start picking apart. Well,

1040
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: one guy turned the ball over four time, the other

1041
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: guy turned over three. One got turned it over three,

1042
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: the other guy turned over two. When did we start

1043
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: doing that?

1044
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: O Joe?

1045
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: Because there's nothing else to talk about, you have to

1046
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: pull something out the air to create dialogue, to tell

1047
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: the difference between two quarterbacks that haven't won a championship

1048
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: yet not Back to the c Strout thing. I want

1049
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: to have a better understanding on why he's regressing the

1050
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: way he is. Is it the coaching is is oc

1051
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: is gone? I mean from his rookie year. What what

1052
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 3: can it be? What is the issue behind it? Because

1053
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: he has a talent around him, Yes, he has a

1054
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: great supporting cast around him offensively, where the struggles that

1055
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: he's having, he shouldn't be having them. One of the

1056
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: best chances as far as that window for them and

1057
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: having an opportunity to compete for Lombardi Trophy was this

1058
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: year having the defense that they do have. Yes, this

1059
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: was this was the year. Yes, I just I just

1060
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: don't understand it. He's been very inconsistent. He's been you know,

1061
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 3: up and down. He has good games and he have

1062
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: a string that are bad. It had it leaves scratching

1063
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: your head. Based on on the standard in which he

1064
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: set from his rookie season, you expect him to continue

1065
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: to get better and keep chopping with keep chopping wood.

1066
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: Sophomore year. Okay, it's a little shaky. Okay, we can

1067
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: live with that. We know going to your third year,

1068
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: maybe things we can continue to get better and you

1069
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: build off some of some of the things that you've

1070
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: seen that have been mistakes. You learn from it and

1071
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: you don't do them again. But now those those same

1072
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: mistakes are continuously happen, those same in assessments, those same

1073
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: fumbles that clock in your head has to go off

1074
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: sometime as a quarterback understanding.

1075
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: When you got to get rid of the ball normal,

1076
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: Is he getting better or is he talking about getting better?

1077
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing now, See it's kind of like

1078
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: winking in the dark. You know what you're doing, but

1079
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: nobody else does. You can tell us whatever you want

1080
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: to tell us. We have no choice but to believe

1081
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: you because we're not there in your most private moments.

1082
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: But that's not what the work says.

1083
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I will say this you

1084
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: don't get you don't have the success he's had. You

1085
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: don't get to where he's gotten to and done some

1086
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: of the things he's done in his career without putting.

1087
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: In the work.

1088
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, how many guys got to the NFL. There's

1089
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: been a lot of guys that had great college careers.

1090
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of guys have break one years.

1091
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: The trick is to do, o joe. If you go

1092
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl one time, ma'am, didn't nobody know

1093
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: you had that in you? But now can you go

1094
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: back again? Can you go back again? In can you

1095
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: go back again when they build a game plan to

1096
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: stop you? O joe? Can you still have success? Okay?

1097
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: So now you have the outstanding the rookie season. What

1098
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna do by your sophomore year? Yeah, gotta keep

1099
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: What about your junior season? Are you gonna talk about

1100
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: it or you gonna be about it?

1101
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: Come on now, damn man.

1102
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: He sometimes you have to have you have to have

1103
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: real hard conversation about these guys. Like I said, I

1104
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: came to the league in nineteen ninety, so that means

1105
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of quarterbacks. I saw my homes,

1106
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: I saw Brady, I saw Manny, I saw Rivers, I

1107
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: saw Rothlisberger. I've seen a lot of quarterbacks. I've never

1108
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: ever since nineteen ninety so that's about thirty seven years

1109
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: he ain't in the NFL in covered, I've never heard

1110
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback talk as much as this young man

1111
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: did after success that he enjoyed in one season.

1112
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: I've never.

1113
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know, it's funny. So it's hard.

1114
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to be able to give my

1115
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 3: context and perspective on what he said because most of

1116
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: the time, the times that I've heard him talk, it's

1117
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: obviously God fearing God, So I haven't seen or heard

1118
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: some of the things you might have heard. So it's

1119
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: hard for me to get my piece on that. But

1120
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: I just I just don't understand with the issue and

1121
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: why is as good as he is, as as as

1122
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: great of a thrower of the football that he is,

1123
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: having Nico Collins and having some of the other weapons.

1124
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, yeah overall, yeah, but large season, yeah, yeah,

1125
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: during the season. I'm just I just I don't understand.

1126
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: I think maybe maybe maybe next year you got Tankedale

1127
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: coming back, got you got Tank, Tank one hell of

1128
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: a player.

1129
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 4: Uncle.

1130
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tank is one hell of a player, and he

1131
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: changes it.

1132
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully he can come back. That was a gruesome injury. Ojo. Yeah,

1133
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: he hit me.

1134
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: That was a gruesome Ojo. It was, it was, and

1135
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: then it becomes back. It's still gonna take another year

1136
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: for him to get his timing and his legs. He's

1137
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: been rehabbing all this time.

1138
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: He ain't trained. Yeah.

1139
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: Fuck, I hate my bad. Excuse me, sorry, you're good.

1140
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: I hate I hate stuff like that just because you

1141
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: understand how that position is scrutinized.

1142
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: Yes, but you also understand why they get sixty million

1143
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: a year.

1144
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: Hm.

1145
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Come on, now, look at your Brady's, look at your Mannings,

1146
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: look at your Jackson's. Lamar Lamar this year, I'm a

1147
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: chalking of the injury. He was injured, he was in

1148
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: and out, and when he came back, he wasn't the

1149
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: same Lamar. But you go back and look at Lamar's

1150
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: track record, Lamar Lamar's proven commodity. You look at his

1151
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: first year, he started like six games, they make the playoffs.

1152
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: He come back the next year, he wins the MVP.

1153
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: You look at mahone boy, and it's maybe it's unfair

1154
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: because everybody in their second year, third year not winning MVPs.

1155
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Everybody can't have the levels of success that Lamar Jackson

1156
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: has had. Mcpatrick Mahomes his head Drake may have been

1157
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: the running for the m v P uh in his

1158
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: second year, could win. I think Matthew Staffords gonna win.

1159
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: Fact that he's in the discussion only in year two. Yes, Now,

1160
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: maybe we look at the coordinator who's coaching him, what's

1161
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: he teaching him?

1162
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: And is he is he?

1163
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: Is he is he processing? Is he learning what he's

1164
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: being taught? Because we've seen coaching matters. We look at

1165
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: mac Jones when he had Josh McDaniel, and we look

1166
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: at mac Jones when he had the other guys in

1167
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: his ear m.

1168
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: We look at.

1169
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: Capelon Chessan now that he's here with Brabel, he looked

1170
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: like a different player than what he was with the Jags.

1171
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: Coaching matters.

1172
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Systems matter, organizations matter, Sam Darnold Tudda, those things matter.

1173
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: So I would ask Demiko, look at you off, who's

1174
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: coaching him, the quarterback who's in his ear Oh see

1175
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: he's regressed.

1176
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: He has not gotten better. He has not and you

1177
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: cannot convince anybody that's watched him a rookie year and

1178
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: watched him sophomore in junior year that says that c J.

1179
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: Stride has gotten better at anything than what he was

1180
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 2: as a rookie.

1181
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't understand it, you know, from the

1182
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: outside looking in. I'm not in that building. All I

1183
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: get to see is I get to see the finished

1184
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: product everybody else in the chat. I get to see

1185
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: him on Sundays obviously playing that position. You understand the

1186
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: work that has to go in to improve from your

1187
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: rookie year to your sophomore to your junior year, And

1188
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 3: for some reason things haven't it just it just hadn't

1189
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: done that. Now, the one thing that that we can

1190
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: hoop and hall about is that goddamn defense over there

1191
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: in Houston Hunt. That's that's one of the best, if

1192
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: if not the best, in NFL outside of the goddamned

1193
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: Seahawks and the goddamn Broncos. Can you imagine could you

1194
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: imagine understanding I'm just I'm putting myself in c J.

1195
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 3: Stroud's shoes me having a defense like that. I ain't

1196
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: got all I got to do. I don't got to

1197
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 3: I gotta mess it up. I mean, if you got

1198
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: it sounds easy, you know, but obviously, oh man, that's that's.

1199
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: How about just not a joe. Look at the players

1200
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: that he was turning the ball over on though, O Joe,

1201
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: what was complex? What was complex or overly complicated about that?

1202
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: Just the throwing to the other team? Hold on to

1203
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: the damn ball?

1204
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 5: Mm hm.

1205
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: They would have won this game.

1206
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: If if the Texans could have got those scooping scores

1207
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: like they got against Pittsburgh, they won this game.

1208
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1209
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: They Drake may fumbl twice, he only lost two. He

1210
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: foughb four times. What if one of those or two

1211
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: of those they scoop and scores like we saw against Pittsburgh.

1212
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: They got a scoop and score and they got to

1213
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: pick six?

1214
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: Changes everything, It changes everything.

1215
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: But when you got a defense like that, you don't

1216
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: have to do much. You don't. Uh, he just I

1217
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know.

1218
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Maybe he goes to Whitfield, or he go to Tom House,

1219
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: or he goes to someone but whoever is in his

1220
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: ear current, Oh Joe, you can't regress like that.

1221
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: You can't.

1222
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: Now, I promise you. We gotta have real oh Joe.

1223
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: They having real conversations. Do we extend this guy for

1224
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: three hundred million or do we make him play?

1225
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: Oh?

1226
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Do we just pick up that fifth year option and

1227
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: make sure he plays your four three hundred million or

1228
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: play out year four and we pick up your five?

1229
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: That's that?

1230
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

1231
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: That's see, that's one that I wouldn't want to be,

1232
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: Nick Carrier?

1233
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: Is it you said you want to be a GM.

1234
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: You said you wanted to be Matt Ryan. That's what

1235
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: you saying? Chad? Did he not say that? Why do

1236
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: Why the Bengals should call me one of these teams?

1237
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: You call me?

1238
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: So?

1239
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: Now there you are, you're GM.

1240
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm the gym of the the Houston Texas

1241
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: right now?

1242
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

1243
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: Do I pick up Do I pay the Stroud what

1244
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: three hundred million? Three hundred Do I pick up the

1245
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: fift year option and and make him prove himself one

1246
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: more year?

1247
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: Yep?

1248
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: That'm I'm gonna take option too, I'm gonna pick I'm

1249
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: gonna pick up that fifth year. I'm making prove itself

1250
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: next year? Yes, and then boom, Okay, you know what

1251
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: you're in the future for the next ten years. I

1252
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: got you.

1253
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1254
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: I can do that.

1255
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean both like it enough to joint

1256
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: for a long time.

1257
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, O Joe, if you go back and think

1258
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: about it, Drake May got three touchdowns, but to a

1259
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: boot Ta touchdown and Stepan Diggs, I don't know how

1260
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: they held on to that. I still don't know how

1261
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: Stepan Diggs. Stefan Digg was looking at the damn here.

1262
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: Like, how did I how did I hold over there?

1263
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: What the hell?

1264
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1265
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: Boot Ta in those in that element, in those elements,

1266
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: he caught the ball with one hand against Stingley Jr.

1267
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had to beat and you know what, that

1268
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: was great coverage by Singley, but great A perfect ball

1269
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: placed would be great great coverage any day. No, absolutely,

1270
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 3: that was perfect perfect ball placement. Ain't nobody noft.

1271
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: A perfect shot up beat some perfect defense. I don't

1272
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: care how oh you see, we've seen Cobe and Steph

1273
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: and Lebron and Jordan, all these guys the defender. I mean, bro,

1274
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: how you how first of all, how you kd how

1275
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: you even see the basket? We watched Steph oh yo.

1276
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: We watched Steph last year at the Olympics. Yeah, I

1277
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: mean twenty four at the Olympics, and you're like, hold on,

1278
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: wait a minute, but two and these guys are basically

1279
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: in the job, bro, How you making shot some thirty

1280
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: five like that?

1281
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: Like it ain't nothing, Ain't.

1282
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: Nothing you can do. We've seen the hottest hitters and

1283
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: a pitch come picked the perfect placement. Ain't nothing you

1284
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: could do. That was a perfect throw boot tape. How

1285
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: had survive? Oh guess what, he caught the ball? He

1286
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: survived the contact from the ground.

1287
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: That is a catch. Yeah, but this d.

1288
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: At some point in time, O Joe. You can't pay

1289
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: everybody on that defense. Now, Oh will Anderson junior contract?

1290
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: So what you're gonna do with him?

1291
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: Hold on? And that's what I'm geting the.

1292
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: Three times he I think he's gonna what three Pro bowls? Yes?

1293
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: Uh two or three Pro bowls? He's all Pro.

1294
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: This year, he's gonna be probably a top twenty of

1295
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: the top one hundred players. He's probably gonna be in

1296
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: the top twenty.

1297
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: Okay, c J.

1298
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: If you get CJ three hundred, Oh, you just saw

1299
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: what a Miles Garrett got. You just saw what Michael

1300
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: Parkson's got, and he youther than Michael Parkson's Yeah. So

1301
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be looking at it to give

1302
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: him one ninety two hundred. You just paid Stingley and

1303
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: you paid the other guy a last on the other side.

1304
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: P Tree Wait, wait, no, lasser to p Tree bullet. Hey,

1305
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: this was the year man. He they got a squad man.

1306
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: They hated.

1307
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: They got them a Shaziir. Shaziar is up or he's

1308
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: still he got.

1309
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: I think she's there, might be up too.

1310
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: Oh, they got a squad man. Yes, this was the year.

1311
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: Boy.

1312
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: Look, they've taken care of They've taken care of shows.

1313
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: They've taken care of of Nico. Huh Stingley? They last,

1314
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: didn't they take care of Lastener?

1315
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: No, lasted only in the second year, ain't he?

1316
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: Oh? Is he? Yeah? Second, what about Petrie?

1317
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure about Petrie?

1318
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: All them?

1319
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: Boy man he god, wait, hey, could you imagine could

1320
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: you imagine if I was out there at the quarterback

1321
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: quarterback at Houston?

1322
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 5: What huh?

1323
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: Hey I called Josh mc I called Mike McDaniel O

1324
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: Joe Blue rape.

1325
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one for the OC.

1326
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: Yes, hey, oh, hold.

1327
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: On, I'd rather, I mean, I like I like, I

1328
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 3: like the idea. I like where you're going with it,

1329
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: but I prefer I prefer God damn Mike McDaniel over

1330
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 3: there in Detroit because he has more to play with. Yeah,

1331
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: he has more tools to play with. He got more

1332
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: tools in the toolbox and that kind of offense, and

1333
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: it's it's basically what he's already used to running. Like like,

1334
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: I like you talking about that.

1335
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: I like that.

1336
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: I like that.

1337
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: Check this out. This is what Demiko said. He never

1338
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: considered bitching CJ. CJ is I guy. I believe that

1339
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: he could come back out in the second half and

1340
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: flip it. I believe that he could come play better,

1341
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: and he did that in the second half. He did

1342
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: play better. We had some positive drive there in the

1343
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: second half. I believe that we would do that, and

1344
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: he did that. As I always tell our guys at halftime,

1345
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter what happened in the first half.

1346
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a two half game. It is two half game.

1347
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 3: You can stink it up the first half and come

1348
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: back and look all world in the.

1349
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: Second yep, yep.

1350
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: But it's in a game like then, it's hard to

1351
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: overcome four turnovers in the first half. The only thing

1352
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: that saved them. It was that Drake May was throwing

1353
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: pigs and fumbling the football. Oh yeah, that's what kevi

1354
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: him in the ball game. And they needed their defense

1355
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: to get some scooping scores and some pick sixes like

1356
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: they got against Pittsburgh.

1357
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: God, and they had one. The guy tried to pick

1358
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: it up in that area of the field. You got

1359
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: to just jump on it, just jump on it.

1360
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: Trying to play hero.

1361
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junr got one out and he almost had

1362
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: it between his leg and then Campbell jumped on that one.

1363
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: That could have been another one that could have led

1364
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: the points. Maybe a touchdown, maybe a field goal, We

1365
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, but there were some opportunities there for

1366
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: the defense. But it's just hard where your offense puts

1367
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: your defense on short fields and puts you and keeps

1368
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: putting you in harm's way because I don't care how

1369
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: great you are. That's what we had to learn that

1370
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: the two thousand Ravens, as great as our defense were,

1371
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: if we kept putting him on short fields with a guy, Hey,

1372
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: all they gotta do is just kneel down to kick

1373
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: a field goal. Yeah, if then a busted player or

1374
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 1: broken tap and that's a touchdown, make him drive sevent

1375
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: to eighty You wasn't driving seven arey on that defense?

1376
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: Not that year.

1377
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't believe a team is gonna consistently drive seventy

1378
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: eighty yards on that Houston Texas defense. The only thing

1379
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: that would harm them would put them in harm's way.

1380
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, turnover offense, turning the ball over.

1381
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: And the Patriot, Hey, they got their hands on the ball.

1382
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: Gonzalez got it out from Woody Marks. Carlton Davis had

1383
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: two outstanding nicks.

1384
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 3: And ain't assession with Knight, Hey, Davis. Carlton Davis played

1385
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: a little receiver, Brock. He must have played a little

1386
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: receiver back in the day.

1387
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: Those guys, those guys played well. They did a great job.

1388
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: Anthrety Jennings had a sack. Sonda had a Tonga had

1389
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: a sack. Ky Levon Chase On had a sack. They

1390
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: got they put pressure on him. But man will Anderson Jr.

1391
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: Was playing out of his mind. Three sacks, the nail hunter,

1392
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: two sacks countless precious.

1393
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: Hey, they supposed to come away.

1394
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean your defense do that for you.

1395
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: You get five sacks, you you're supposed to repay the favor, though,

1396
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: But You know what's funny is them five sacks, the

1397
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: full turnovers. It it counters, It evens everything out, Yes,

1398
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: it even it evens everything out.

1399
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

1400
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: And the thing is the reason why was a close

1401
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: ball game is that, like you said, one team had

1402
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: had five what five turnovers? No, they had no what

1403
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: marks lost? Yeah, Woody Mars lost.

1404
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: One, uh and uh four? So that's five turnovers and

1405
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: the other team had three turnovers.

1406
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but I but look, I gotta try something

1407
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: because something is going on with my quarterback and I

1408
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: believe he's the If I'm Demico, this is how I'm thinking.

1409
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm Demiko Ran. My quarterback is not the same as

1410
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: he was in his rookie season. Now I need to

1411
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: know why.

1412
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1413
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna leave a stone unturned. Yeah,

1414
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: almost sky with Helen and Earth. Maybe he needs to

1415
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: get a no OC. Maybe he needs somebody else in

1416
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: his ear.

1417
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what it is. They need

1418
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 3: to do something because when CJ. Stroud missed a few games,

1419
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 3: David Mills came in and kept their head above water.

1420
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: David Mills came in and kept that Houston Texans offense

1421
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: above water until until c J. Stroud got back. He

1422
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: did so, if David Mills can do it and look

1423
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: the way he looked in such a short amount of time,

1424
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure CJ. Stroud can come back and do it.

1425
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if his confidence may be shot a

1426
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 3: little bit. Maybe they need to have a different approach

1427
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 3: and to get it in, getting him in rhythm. Stop

1428
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 3: having plays that are so long, stop having plays that

1429
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: require play action. Uh, I don't I don't know, I

1430
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 3: don't know. You know that team Demko they understand what

1431
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: c they Strouds, C they Strouds strengths are as a quarterback,

1432
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: and they understand what the weaknesses are. You need to

1433
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 3: make sure you play to a strength and hid this

1434
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: weakness is the best way you can until you can

1435
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 3: make his weaknesses a part of his strengths and and

1436
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: that that that takes years and years and years of

1437
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: working at your craft.

1438
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: To do that.

1439
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well today was the ALC Championship game in ninety seven.

1440
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well yeah that was ninety seven. I think

1441
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: we did pick off Cordell a couple of times. What

1442
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: do we pick him up?

1443
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: Three times? Two times?

1444
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 3: You played against Cordell Stewart. Yeah, when it's what the

1445
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: Steelers are okay.

1446
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: Three times yeah, three times?

1447
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I think if they don't he because one

1448
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: year Cordell, I think it might've been that year Cordell

1449
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: finished like second to third in the m v P boarding.

1450
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: Who won the MVP in ninety seven? Barry and Brett

1451
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: far tied. Bretton won in three years in a row

1452
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, and then TV wanted

1453
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: in ninety eight, and then uh, Kurt one On won

1454
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: it in two thousand ninety nine, and I think Marshall

1455
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: won him in two thousand and then Kurt won and

1456
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: again in one.

1457
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: I think I think with the Rams eh Naw.

1458
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: Rich Gannett, Yeah, I think Kurt won and O one

1459
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: I think Rich won in Rich one in.

1460
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: Two that's what with the Raiders, Yes, yeah, with Jerry

1461
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: and Tim.

1462
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but Houston, you got too much talent. Don't

1463
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: don't squader this. You gotta find out what's going on

1464
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: with CJ. Because you're about to have to invest a

1465
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: boatload of money in it, so you might want to

1466
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: make sure everything.

1467
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 2: Is on the that you got.

1468
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: You you give him the best tools possible from an

1469
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: offensive perspective as a coordinator and a quarterback coach to

1470
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: make sure you're maximizing his ability. After the game by

1471
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: several fans posted Stroud's infamous postgame moments with Caleb Williams

1472
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: from Week two of last season. Stroud big brother Williams

1473
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: despite them being the same age, and told Caleb stopped

1474
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: taking those big hits and.

1475
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: That it would be a hell of a player in

1476
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: the NFL. Well, he ain't lie.

1477
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: Williams did not look at all interested in what Stroud

1478
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: had to say since that moment.

1479
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: C J.

1480
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: Stroud five seven hundred and ninety five yards, thirty four touchdowns,

1481
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: eighteen picks. Caleb Williams six six hundred and twelve yards,

1482
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: forty eight touchdowns, twelve picks.

1483
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: Eh, eh, tough.

1484
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: He tried, He just tried to.

1485
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: You know that that that was That was a genuine

1486
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 3: moment too, from from from two players obviously knowing each

1487
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: other before they even made it to the NFL. Just

1488
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: just just giving me some because you know how they

1489
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: were giving Caleb crack.

1490
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: From from California, from l A.

1491
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1492
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: Caleb is from the d m V.

1493
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 3: They know each other. Come on, man, I'm talking about

1494
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: from college. I'm not talking about when you know, you know,

1495
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 3: you know

1496
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah,