1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. It could be a bad admission switch, 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: it could be a coil, it could be There's a 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: lot of things here. But until we know what we're missing, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to start replacing parts because that creates 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: a whole another set of problems in to itself. The 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: kid set about the car Doctor. It doesn't call or anything, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: but get to a little vibration and the steen wheel. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Maybe so is your concern the vibration or is your 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: concern where the RPM is? I thought they were related. 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Any the 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: I am here to take the call at eight five 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, come on, insidam wrong? Any 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. You're at your service. The phone 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: numbers eight five five zero zero zero. 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We'll call you back, 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: talk to you about your problem, and line you up 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: for our next live broadcast, because that's really what this 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: radio show is about. That's what we like to do. 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: We want to talk to you about the problem, and 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: we'll make it easy. We'll be gentle, I promise, and 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 1: educate you as well as everybody else out there that's listening, 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: because we're just trying to help clarify and clean up 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: and clear up some of the misrepresentation that this industry 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: has in terms of what it takes to really fixed 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: cars properly. I think I could best start this week's 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: monologue by saying, I think about a tale of two cities, 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: but it was a tale of two automobiles. Two thousand 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: four Buick Century came into the shop this week at 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: our Automotive and Waldock with a horn problem. Didn't work, 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: no horn whatsoever, and it was a fairly cut and 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: draw system. Two thousand four wasn't a whole lot of technology. 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: It's just vastly different than what you see today. But 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: it was basically what we've seen for the past on 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: teen sixty years. There was a switch, there was a relay, 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: there was a fuse, and there was a horn. You 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: know what could be wrong. Well, it went through it 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: real quick, and the relay was good, the fuse was good. 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Got down to the horns because I could hear the 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: relay clicking when Danny pressed on the horn button and 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: got down to the horns. One was plugged in, the 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: other was not. There was a dent in the right 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: front bumper plastic bumper vinyl bumper on this bulk century 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the so for a bulic century, and it had a 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: dent in it, and you could see where the dent 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: lined up. It perfectly was in line where the horn 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: was in that lower right hand corner of the front 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: vendor on the passenger side, and it looked like the 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: dent the impact knocked that wire off. And when I 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: asked the owner, she said, yeah, you know, I had 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: something happened. She wasn't quite clear, but it was about 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: a year ago or so, she said, where the horn 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: was working fine. She remembers she came too close to 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: the house or somebody's car, she wasn't quite sure. Oh boy, 67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: And after that the horn sounded funny for a while 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and then it died completely and she's meaning to get 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: it fixed. Nothing like instant attention. So it turns out that, yeah, 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: the horn that was connected died and no longer worked. 71 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: And that was the the low note horn, the bassier horn, 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and the one that was unplugged behind note, that was 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: the one that would work. And it did once I 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: plugged it in, and we had all the time, every 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: time you hit the button fixed. Not a big deal, 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: but this is a tale of two horns. Right Jeep 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Wrangler Unlimited Unlimited, Wrangler Rubicon Nice Jeep came into the 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: shop the next day. The horn doesn't work well. Actually, 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: it was a different kind of a problem. It was 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: whenever you opened the driver's door, and only the driver's door, 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: the horn would go off for thirty seconds, really annoying. 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: And I imagine it is every time you open the 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Every time you open the door for thirty seconds, the 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: horn goes off. Well, that was about a year ago, 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: and the owner decided it must be after a year 86 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: people get tired of it and missed their horns, or 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: that they're tired of yelling out the window. Hey you. 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: So he unplugged both horns and left it like that. 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Showed up on my doorstep. Totally different system, like nothing. 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: I haven't seen one like this yet. It was a 91 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: little bit of an education in the sense that they 92 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: ran the horn switch through the cruise control switch, through 93 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: the clock spring for the airbag, out to the instrument cluster, 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: which was which saw the request for horn, which sent 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: it over to the body module, which then sent it 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: over to the horn relay, which is soldered in place 97 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: on the printed circuit board inside the total power module 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: on the right hand fender, and then down to the 99 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: horns of the hornwood blow. Yea. So turns out after 100 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: some diagnosis and a completely different type of diagnosis, completely different, 101 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: we went from I went from voltmeter and test light 102 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: to scan tool instantly, an instant upgrade got out my 103 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: launch X four thirty one, the tablet you hear me 104 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: talking about all the time, worked really well and brought 105 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: up the body module went in and looked at the 106 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: little pieces of data that I could measure. Found the 107 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: horn horn button showed on. M hm. The horn buttons 108 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: stuck on. Well, that would make sense. Why the horn 109 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: is blown. It always thinks it's in a state of 110 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: wake up and and and the fact is the problem 111 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: is that at first, what I thought was the alarm 112 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: was really just the horn. You see, if it's if 113 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: it's the alarm on this vehicle as well as other vehicles, 114 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: the horn would oscillate, which is one of the reasons 115 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: they run through the body module. It gives it the 116 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: ability to pulse with and vary the ground control, so 117 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: they can vary the intensity of the horn volume. The 118 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: horn will wail, so to speak, and the lights will flesh. 119 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: If it's alarm, this was purely horn. So I said, well, 120 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: we'll start with let's take the horn switch out and 121 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: and see if we can change that. Pit took the 122 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: horn switch out. You know how crazy it is when 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: you're standing there and you've got the horn switch in 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: your left hand and you open the driver's door with 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: your right and the horns going off, and you're going huh. 126 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: And you look at the scan tool, and the scan 127 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: tool says, horn button on. Wait minute, I take the 128 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: wrong part out of the car. No, wait, there it is. 129 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: It's right there. It's in my left hand. I can 130 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: see it here, it is. I'm touching it. The wires 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: unplugged horn button on, reached over to the right side 132 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: cruise control switch, which they call a master On this 133 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: particular car, they consider it a master module. Unplugged the 134 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: cruise control switch. The horn stopped blowing. Looked at the 135 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: scan tool. It's still showed on. Wow, boy, was this 136 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: an education? Ended up that the instrument cluster, which takes 137 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: the command from the cruise switch, was stuck. Was electronically stuck. 138 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: So I had a disconnect the battery. Put a ten 139 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: on one watt resistor wire in between the positive and 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: negative battery cables. Bleed the voltage down out of the vehicle, 141 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: let all the modules go to an empty state. Hooked 142 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: everything back up, and I left connection for about ten 143 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Hooked everything back up, plugged the scan tool 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: back in. Horn button read off. Well, I kind of 145 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: knew that it's in my hand. It's got to be off. 146 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Plugged everything back in except for the horn switch. The 147 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: horn goes off. Bad cruise switch, and I could prove 148 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: it because I could also look at it on a 149 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: scan tool and see certain things that were showing me 150 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: that the crew switch thought it was being activated by 151 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: the horn switch when it wasn't. Bottom line, no, two 152 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: diagnosises are the same. And for you, the consumer, you've 153 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: got to learn to accept the fact that how your 154 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: mechanic fixed your car as little as three years ago, 155 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: five years ago, ten years ago is going to be 156 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: totally different today. That automobile that you're driving, if you're 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: driving a new car, totally different in terms of diagnosis. 158 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: That ten year old car much easier, much less electronics 159 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: compared to today. And we thought the cars in two 160 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: thousands six and two thousand five and four and so 161 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: on were so heavily laden. It's absolutely amazing. And I 162 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: guess the thing you have to be aware of is 163 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: that the days of not diagnosing a problem are over. 164 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: And you've heard me talk about this a couple of 165 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: times in the last a few months, because I'm seeing 166 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: more and more a where the shops that are out 167 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: there posing, pretending to be mechanics and not diagnosing are 168 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: coming out with a laundry list of here's what the 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: car needs. I had somebody the other day as in 170 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: the side, I had a He had a two thousand, 171 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: three forty three fifty Van Alex al He said. Alex's 172 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: mother was mad at him when she named them. He said, 173 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: call me al men him for the first time diagnosis. 174 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: Probably had a charging system. Is you had a bad alternator. 175 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: When I was done, I explained the diagnosis to him. 176 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I showed him the wiring diagram how I picked it apart, 177 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: showed him the new alternator, showed him the old alternator. 178 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: He said, you know, he goes. Nobody does this, he goes. 179 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: Nobody diagnoses like that. He goes, he goes. My old 180 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: mechanic was throwing parts at it, which is one of 181 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: the reasons I left him. And it's it's really getting 182 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: to be difficult to repair a car, and you need 183 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: to find somebody that can diagnose. Al gets it. You 184 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: gotta get it. You've got to find a diagnostician. You've 185 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: got to have some understanding, and you've got to give 186 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: them some leeway and be willing to spend some time, 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: because otherwise the cost of parts to throw parts of 188 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: the car way too expensive. In the end, A Tale 189 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: of two Cars both had the same problem. No horn 190 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: too completely entirely different solutions and two completely entirely different 191 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: diagnosis is all for the same problem. Hello and welcome 192 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: Ronanini and the Car Doctor here at zero. This is 193 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: an interview free hour. We are here to ake your 194 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: calls and answer your questions at nine zero. Keep in 195 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: mind we're also out on Facebook. I failed to mention 196 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: that from time to time I forget. I get so 197 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: caught up in the moment. Somebody said to me the 198 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: other day. One of the affiliates said, hey, we want 199 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: you to do a promo for your radio show, and 200 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: you know, tell the listeners down here in Maryland in 201 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less what it is about your radio 202 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: show if you're gonna tell them about it. I ended 203 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: up cutting the promo and I said, you know, it's 204 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: that I've been fixing car since ninety eight. I've been 205 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: on the radio since. I love what I do and 206 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: I just want to help people understand their car. So 207 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: trust me, if you call eight five zero nine nine 208 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: zero zero, I'll be gentle and I'll just explain your 209 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: car problem the best I can and help you come 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: to a good conclusion. Because that's what this radio show 211 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: is all about. We'll return right after this to open 212 00:11:43,720 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: the garage doors. Don't go away, Hey, welcome back the 213 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Car Doctor rolling along the Saturday zero nine nine zero zero. 214 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Keep in mind we're out on Facebook, Ronninny in the 215 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, and get out to our website car Doctor 216 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: show dot com to find links for podcasts, to tune in, 217 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: I Heart iTunes and all sorts of devices to take 218 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor with you ever you want to go. 219 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: And coming soon to Google Patch if I remember right, 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna be at the Google Patch when 221 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: Google decides to uh create their podcasting service as well. 222 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: We're in the lineup, all ready to be there. How 223 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: are you today, Harry, Yeah, I'm good, Ron Chump, he's 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: always good. Yeah, Chubby not chubby spelt. Yeah, Well you 225 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: felt you gotta be one or the other. So well chubby, 226 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: and I'm well, you're getting schwelt used to be pounds? 227 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: What are you not? Six? Getting down there? Did my 228 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: uh four k the other week February just kind of 229 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: rold you along and off you went. Well I didn't 230 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: finished last I can tell you that. Well, well five 231 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: K three point one and it was minus fault degrees, 232 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: I might add, well, yeah, that and that's never fun. 233 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: So now that we've bought everybody completely to death of 234 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: your life, can we can we move along and try 235 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: and fix some cars. Yeah, we can do that. Let's 236 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: start out with Jimmy and Raleigh, North Carolina. Okay, he's 237 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: got a two thousand, fourteen four Tours and was having 238 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: a little trouble with the rack compinion steering. Okay, cool, 239 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: Hey Jimmy, welcome to the car, doctor Ronan any and 240 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: at your service, sir, how can I help? Oh, thank 241 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: you very much for taking my call. Um, I have 242 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: a and um the end of the day, I was 243 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: driving it and then I had like, um, like the 244 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: tailor is is one out or something like that? Right, 245 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: So I decided to stop at my mechanics place. Okay, 246 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: So when I went there, he moved to the tailor 247 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: and then stick and he told me the Latini on 248 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: his bad because the after he depressed the tilt, the 249 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: steering was started making a lot of noise. Okay, well, 250 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: keep in mind, this is Jimmy. There's is this the 251 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: six cylinder of the fourth cylinder. Okay, this car has 252 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: electric power steering. You know that, right, Okay, so he 253 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: says it needs a power steering what no, uh, he said, 254 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: I need to replace the Latin and Kenyon did he 255 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: say why did he or just this was from the 256 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: from the hip diagnosis. Yeah, he just said. He just 257 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: said that he's dead. Okay, But my my point, my 258 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: point is this, this is electronic all right. So you know, 259 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: if he changed the tire, there isn't too much you 260 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: can do on putting a tire on a car, even 261 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: with electronic rack opinion, even this day and age. If 262 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: if he changed the tire and the steering got tight 263 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: right away afterward, or the steering is tight and not 264 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: quite possibly, why wouldn't we plugging a scan tool? You know? This, 265 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: This is what I was talking about in the opening 266 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: conversation about diagnosing the horns. The scan tool takes command 267 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: of everything today. And I think before he recommends replacing 268 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: a rack opinion from the seat of his pants, and 269 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: my concern is he's diagnosing this old school. He saw 270 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: something that he doesn't like or understand, and he just 271 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: wants to keep his head buried in the sand. You know, 272 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's plug in a scan tool. If 273 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: this needs a rack there's going to be fault codes, 274 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: and they're indicating that there's gonna be something that sends 275 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: us in that direction. All right, Um, so that's number one. 276 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Number two, there are some known issues with this particular 277 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: model car where the power steering control module is it 278 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: fault and there are times it has to be either 279 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: programmed or calibrated or both, and there there there are 280 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: some tests that have to be done in order to 281 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: ensure that. So you know, it's it's funny everybody tries 282 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: to diagnose that I think it's this, I think it's that, 283 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: And I bet it was. I bet it was quite 284 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: a bit of money to put a rack opinion in 285 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: this car, right yeah, fifteen hundred dollars. Yeah, yeah. Um, 286 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: your question to him is gonna be are you sure 287 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna fix it? Among other things? Right? You know, Uh, 288 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: I had breakfast at the deli this morning, if I 289 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: can just tell you this story, and I was sitting 290 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: there and one of the regulars, Tom came up and 291 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: he saw me, and he's going out to buy a 292 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: new car today. And you know, as you can imagine 293 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: if you if you know who I am and what 294 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I do, most of my meals outside in the world 295 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: or you know, held up by Hey, can I just 296 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: ask you one question? And um, he said, you know, 297 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to buy a new car today. Do you 298 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: think I should least do you think I should buy? 299 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: What do you think I should buy? What do you 300 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: think I should you know, drive? What do you think 301 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: I want to drive for the next three or four years, 302 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: five years, ten years? And I said, well, first of all, 303 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: you gotta find something you like, and you know, you've 304 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: got to find something that makes you happy because you're 305 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: gonna be with it a long time and when it breaks, 306 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be cheap because nothing is today, and 307 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: you know you gotta be prepared to diagnose it. But 308 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: most importantly, cars are a lifestyle, and you know it's 309 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: something you've got to be aware of and you gotta 310 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: like it. So I guess my point is, you know 311 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: your mechanic is it sounds to me like you put 312 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: a tire on the car. And you mentioned to him 313 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: that the steering is tight, and as a result, he said, well, 314 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: it must be a rack and opinion, but it it's 315 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no rule that says it's that 316 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: if if he hasn't put a scan tool on it. 317 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Jim I don't see how he could know. No, right, 318 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't see how he could know. And you know, 319 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: if you want to take the gamble of this is 320 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: how good relationships go bad. You know, I always tell 321 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: everybody ort to repairs a relationship, and it really is. 322 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: It's it's it's all about. It's all about when things 323 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: are going bad, not necessarily when things are going good. 324 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: Because when there's a problem, after he puts the rack 325 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: in your car and collects the dollars, if that doesn't 326 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: fix it, how's he going to handle it? And and 327 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: and and that to me is the biggest concern. But 328 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: before you even get to that point, head him off 329 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: at the past, asked him, can you properly diagnosed this? 330 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Because the other problem is going to be if he 331 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: puts that electronic power steering rack opinion in the car 332 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: and he doesn't have the ability to talk to it, 333 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: he won't be able to program it and he can't 334 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: complete the job. To go back and talk to him, Jimmy, 335 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: let me know what happens. I'm wanting any of the 336 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: car doctor will return right after this, welcome back. We're 337 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: needing the car docker here at eight five five five 338 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Got big Tom Ray on 339 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: the board right now, looking good over there, Mr Tom? Um, 340 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: what happened to Tony? Of course I do. I always 341 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: look good? Yeah, well I knew that. Um, but uh, 342 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, do you realize it's been Um? I was 343 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: thinking about it. Do you realize we're uh we're twenty 344 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: five years on radio, but we're four years into self 345 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: syndication here and just kind of rolling along? Is it 346 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: four years since? Yeah? It was four years? Uh, last 347 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. How do we get to 348 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: be this all? I don't know. I can't figure. Yeah, 349 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I stopped aging? Is that 350 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: what happens? Well, I'm gonna I can't wait till I 351 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: hit that plateau where I can stop aging and just 352 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: fix cars, because that's what I keep doing forever and ever. 353 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine zero zero the 354 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: phone number. Let's get over the line too and talk 355 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: to John Glenn Rock, New Jersey. John. Welcome to the 356 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey? Ron, thank 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: you for fixing my wife's car. Oh I know who 358 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 1: this is? Yeah? How does it tell you? All? Right? 359 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: How's it call, I don't know she's driving it. I'm 360 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: driving the Mustang now, John, oh, John. She never listens 361 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: to the show, so I think we're safe, right, or 362 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: I'm assuming she won't listen to the show. We're safe. 363 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: I put it on the pagebook page for the podcast. 364 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: So did you did you understand her comment the part 365 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: about well, she'd rather just wait till it breaks and 366 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: fix it all then, rather than do the maintenance along 367 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: the way. Did your credit card go out? Hey? You know, hey, 368 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: you know she was raised me it's like car and 369 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that and just throw the car away, you know. Uh. 370 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: And I was raised by my dad's the six cars. 371 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: My dad has the babe with oil and stuff like that. 372 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: I took care of my first plus bang there and 373 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: eight months things later hert to see if your suggestion 374 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: of getting the car I wanted to thrive and may 375 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, after the future die, you know, now you 376 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: just keep on going right now? Now? Now, now, that's 377 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. That's that's really interesting in that you know, 378 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: your wife was raised in a family where they didn't 379 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: maintain cars and you were raised by a guy that did. 380 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: And look at the difference, right and it's it's it's 381 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: funny how the influence of parents affects affects somebody for 382 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: a lifetime like that. Well, I've in State plus bang 383 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: GT convertible. You know, Dad, that showed me everything. So 384 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: that also puts the Unroe Yellow air shocks in there 385 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: and the Pioneer get that tape back, you know. So 386 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time in that car, and 387 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: that bond was made. Yeah, yeah, it's not a bad 388 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: not a bad bond to have, right John. I mean, 389 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, I've learned. I've learned over the years and 390 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: talking to the listeners that the connection to the car 391 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: usually comes back to a connection to a memory with 392 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: a family member. It's not unusual. And you know, one 393 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: of my earliest memories of cars, besides working on them 394 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: with my dad as a kid, because my dad was 395 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: an airline mechanic and tinkered with the family cars, as 396 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: you and the other listeners know, but one of my 397 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: greatest memories was the day I must have been five 398 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: or six years old. Dad had a Volvo and he 399 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: put me between him on his lap and I steered 400 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: the car and shifted it, or I thought I was 401 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: steering the car and shifting it while he worked the 402 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: clutch in the break and the gas pedal, And right 403 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: then I was hooked. I knew it was cars, you know, 404 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: at a very your old age. You know, Dad worked 405 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: as a glacier putting in uh you know, windshields at 406 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: busting glass in summer will back in the day, and 407 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: he worked on every car. And Dad had his strict 408 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: opinions on cars. So that's why I'm a forward guy, 409 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: you know. So, But of course I have for you 410 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: besides thank you. Is I was listening to before because 411 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: the spark plug is okay now, you know the Mustang 412 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: it was when you're coming up with twenty Should I 413 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: put those spark plugs in this? Better spark plugs and 414 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: the smuts bang Now if they're made for a John yet, 415 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the worst idea. The dense O t 416 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: T S will show you a performance change, and we'll 417 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: show you better fuel economy and definitely a good upgrade 418 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: to do to the car. It's a better performing plug, 419 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: just like the ads say. And it's it's not non sense, 420 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's really well thought out. You know, 421 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: the next time you're in the shop, remind me. I'll 422 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: look up and I'll get a set down there, and 423 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: I'll show you how those plugs are made. They are 424 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I gotta tell you, they're so pretty, 425 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: the way they're welded and accurately put together. It's it's 426 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: almost like a work of art. You don't want to 427 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: use them, you don't want to get them dirty, but 428 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: obviously that's what you have to do. Their spark plugs. 429 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: Um but you know, yeah, the dense O t T 430 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: s do provide some vast benefits to conventional spark plug technology, 431 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it wouldn't be the worst idea 432 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: in the world. Would I normally do that? Honest answer 433 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: is no. Most people don't want to spend money to 434 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: maintain a car or improve the performance. For a guy 435 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: like you that understands the benefits of maintenance and understands 436 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: the rationale behind it, yeah, by all means, let's look 437 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: into it. We'll talk about it the next time I 438 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: see you in a couple of weeks. Hey, I can't 439 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: thank you enough for what you did. Hopefully, well hopefully yeah, 440 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I know. Hey, listen, by the way, John, I gotta 441 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: tell you keep in mind we are on local radio. 442 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: In New York. You can hear us on w r 443 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: c R A m SE. So if her radio is working, 444 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: well yeah if if if her radio is working, she 445 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: may be driving around listening to the show today because 446 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: I told her what to listen to. And you may 447 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: be in trouble when you get home. Okay, Hey, John, 448 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: you take good care. I'll talk to you next time. 449 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: I see you, all right, buddy. Five five zero nine 450 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: zero zero running eating in the Card Doctor. Let's pull 451 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: over and take a pause. The Card Doctor will be 452 00:25:32,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back, I mean the car 453 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: Doctor rolling along this hour eight five zero nine nine 454 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: zero zero. Happy to be here, happy to serve, and 455 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: glad to talk to each and every one of you. 456 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: More information at Car Doctor show dot com. Let's get 457 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: over to the phones and talk to Robin bangor Main. 458 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: Some questions about idle time equinox. Rob, Welcome to the 459 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, sir, How canna help you? Thanks for taking 460 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: my call here. You're welcome. What's going on? A question 461 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: about sitting in an idling vehicle? I'm an outside sales 462 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: repspent a lot of time on the road, and I 463 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: have to pull over on occasion to return phone calls 464 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and emails and things like that. And as you can imagine, 465 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: in the dead of January February, it's cold and main 466 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: so we'll lead like car idling, you know, up to 467 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: an hour and a half or something while I'm sitting 468 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: in it. Uh, two questions. I guess my health and 469 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: the car's health. More concerned about my health in the car. 470 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: But um, what do you think about fumes getting up 471 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: into the cabin of the vehicle. Well, I think the 472 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: good news is on the exhaust system is real tight 473 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: and hoping it is so all the fumes should be 474 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: exiting out the rear of the vehicle, and I don't 475 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have any issues. Um, obviously you may 476 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: want to sit there in fresh air mode to draw 477 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: an outside the air, as crazy as that sounds, because 478 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: I in RESIRC, I would be concerned if anything did 479 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: get in at least this way. In fresh air mode, 480 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: you're purging it out. And maybe you want to crack 481 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: a back window just to keep some fresh air in 482 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: the carcass things will get stale in their regardless, Uh, 483 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: just just to keep some air circulating. But you know, 484 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: from that perspective, I think you're safe. The car ninety 485 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: minutes idle time, and I assume you do this year 486 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: round or is this only a winter thing? Okay, you 487 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: know ninety minutes idle time. You've just got to watch 488 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: and behave on your oil changes, and you know, be 489 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: concerned about you know that idle time does ed wear 490 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: and tear. You know, look at police cars, look at 491 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: you know cars that do uh, you know, a lot 492 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: of idle time police security guards, you know, shopping mall security, 493 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: things like that. The oil change intervals are based on 494 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: time more so than mileage. So I would you know, 495 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: if you're doing how many miles a year do you 496 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: think you're doing rob I do about fifty and it's 497 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: a it's a couple vehicles, someone having an oil change 498 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: to be five to six thousand miles, right, But you 499 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: know if that five to six thousand miles takes you 500 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: how long? Three months? Four months? Week? Okay, so you 501 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: are doing quite a bit of driving, then I think 502 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: then I think you're okay, Um, as long as you're 503 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: as long as you're hitting the mileage, you know, within 504 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: the time frame. I'm not crazy about all the idle time. 505 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: If this was a car you were planning to keep 506 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: the tor in thousand miles. I would tell you to 507 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: use synthetic oil and shorten the oil change interval of 508 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: the three thousand miles. But the fact that it will 509 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: be gone, um probably by a hundred, it's not gonna 510 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: really matter. Like you said, it's a company car and 511 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna write it off, all right. You. You take 512 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: good care, sir. Thanks for the call. You're very welcome. 513 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: Let's do a quick piece of email. Hey, Ron, my 514 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: name is Alex and I own a repair shop in 515 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: Long Island City, New York. I'm so happy I found 516 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: you on iHeart Radio and I Heeart Radio listener. I 517 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: used to listen to you on AM seven ten back 518 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: a few years ago. Yep, your show is great and 519 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: it practically mirrors my work in the shop every day. 520 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: I can relate. I'm trying my best to do my 521 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: best possible for my customers, but I'm having problems with 522 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: customers that don't want to spend any money. Well, why 523 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: should your shop being any different than one? In most cases, 524 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't have problems fixing cars, I have problems selling 525 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: a job. If it's possible, please tell me what's the 526 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: best way to give an estimate on electrical such as 527 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: a battery draw broken or short and wiring harnesses. We're 528 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna take these one at the time. There's a four 529 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: part question, um give an estimate on electrical battery draw 530 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: broken or short and wiring harness? Is no communication or 531 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: intermittent problems, you know, Alex. The only way you can 532 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: sell that is blocks of time. And the real answer 533 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: is somebody has to believe in your ability, and you 534 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: have to sell that. You're gonna try and do the 535 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: best that you can using the most modern and up 536 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: to date methods, and believe it or not. What I 537 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: think is what I think helps sells a shop's ability 538 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: to repair a car intermittent problems, electrical problems and even 539 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: simple oil changes is overall appearance. You know, I've said 540 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: for years here on radio, when you walk into a shop, 541 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: if your feet stick to the floor, and if it's 542 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: disheveled and and and and rough looking, I don't know 543 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: if i'd want to leave a two thousand eight BMW 544 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: there for repair. I don't know that i'd want to 545 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: leave a late model Ford Mustang there for repair, not knowing, 546 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, are they practicing safe repair? So I think 547 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: appearances is part of it. Number one. Number two, I 548 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: also think selling blocks of time. Look, there's some tests 549 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: I can run. I can run those tests. It's gonna 550 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: take me an hour and a half. It's a hundred 551 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: and fifty six dollars. If we're going on a theoretical 552 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: labor rate of a hundred dollars an hour, and we 553 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: can take it to that level. What I typically do 554 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: is I will sell a block of time initially, and 555 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: then after that sell a bigger block of time. If 556 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: I can't get through it in the first block, that 557 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: means I've got a very complex, involved problem, and I've 558 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: got to look deeper. The point is, you've got to 559 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: get compensated for your time, got to get paid for 560 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And you're not there as a science project. 561 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: You're there to make a living and purchase enough equipment 562 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: and enough training to continue to be there to support 563 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: your customers. And if they don't understand that, what they're 564 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: really saying is we don't care if you make any money. 565 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: We're just here to try and get what we can 566 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: and move on. And you don't need that type of customer. 567 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: And I think if more guys were like that, we 568 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: would kind of church, everybody up to the point that 569 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: they understand that repairing a car is a very difficult 570 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: and time consuming process in some instances. Second part, how 571 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: do you sell a thousand dollar job on a three 572 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollar car? I've never been able to do it. Yeah, 573 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: I kind of have a problem doing that to Alex 574 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: in the sense that is it worth doing? And I 575 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: I asked myself that question. Part of the answer, though, 576 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: is it's not up to me to decide. It's up 577 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: to the customer to decide. I'll look the entire car over, 578 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: make sure that the car would respond to what it 579 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: is I am repairing. I'll also look back at service records. 580 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll back and see have they done regular royal changes? 581 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: Have they done regular fluid replacement? Have they replaced filters? 582 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: Have they done proper Dude Guild diligence and care? And 583 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: if they have, then you know what, just because the 584 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: market says it's worth three thousand dollars doesn't mean that's 585 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: what the car is worth. My wife's car. My wife's 586 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: out looking at new cars. She has been for a 587 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: while now. She had her two thousand five Chevy Malibi 588 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: with a hundred forty five thousand miles on the praise 589 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: by a dealer. They told her it's worth bucks. You 590 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: know what, I'm still putting brakes on it. I'm still 591 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: putting tires on it. I'm still letting her drive it. 592 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: It's worth a whole lot more to me than bucks, 593 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: because in reality, that new car is going to be 594 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: close to thirty grand or thirty five thousand dollars, whatever 595 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: the number is. So don't let what the car is 596 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: worth based on the market dictate what kind of repairs 597 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: you do to it, because it's really what kind of 598 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: condition is the car in a thousand dollars. If they're 599 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: gonna need to get another year out of the car 600 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: is cheap. If they're gonna get three months out of 601 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: the car, that's break even if we assume three and 602 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month is a lease payment or a 603 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: purchase payment if you buy the car. What do I 604 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: think about when customers buy their own parts. I think 605 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to save themselves money and they don't realize 606 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: what it takes to properly pick parts and stand behind them. So, 607 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: you know what, if they want to pick their own parts, 608 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: raise your labor rate and don't offer any guarantee, because 609 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: that's really what they're saying. They don't care if the 610 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: part fails. All you have to do is guaranteed against workmanship. 611 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Make sure you bolted it on. If you took four 612 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: bolts off, put four bolts on, you're covered. And what 613 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: do I think is an appropriate labor rate in Long 614 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: Island City in New York for an independent shut up? 615 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, Alex, that's a heck of a question. And 616 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: it's not what I think, and it's not what the 617 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: bank thinks, and it's not what the guy next Doore thinks. 618 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: It's what your overhead dictates. And what you're gonna have 619 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: to do is look at your total fixed costs, divide 620 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: it out by how many hours you're open, and come 621 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: up with what it really costs for you to be 622 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: there or where do you fix car one? Car one 623 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: hundred or car zero? And there you can establish a 624 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: good labor rate and then sell it and explain to 625 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: people how good of a job you're doing. Food for thought. 626 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: Email me again rond at card Doctor show dot com, 627 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: Alex if you need more information, anybody's got any comments, 628 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: anybody wants to respond to anything I've said? By all 629 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: means semi an email rondt Card Doctor Show dot com. 630 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. It's interesting to hear everybody's feedback. 631 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the Car Doctor. I'll be back 632 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back or needing of the Car Doctor. 633 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: Kind of winding things down this hour. It's been a 634 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: great hours always. I have enjoyed being here and taking 635 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: care of each and every one of you as you've 636 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: called in and asked your questions, and I appreciate you 637 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: taking the time to let me be part of your 638 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: day as we roll along and um just trying to 639 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: fix cars. That's all we've been trying to do for 640 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: the pist well years on radio, forty three years in 641 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: the Bays and um so forth. Eight zero zero zero 642 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: is the Car Doctor seven number. You can call it 643 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: during the week now eight six zero nine nine zero zero. 644 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: Leave a message and fast Harry or executive producer will 645 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: call you back and get you in que and line 646 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: you up for the next broadcast so we can talk 647 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: to you and solve your problem and you know, hopefully 648 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: educate everybody else along the way. Quick piece of email. 649 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Ron Love the Show two thousand seven Toyota Raft four 650 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 1: oil consumption at Toyota test it. They say it doesn't 651 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: meet the required amount for any action, but it's not good. 652 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: I just did an oil change and it was two 653 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: and a half quart slow. I checked the oil more 654 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: than I do in any of my other vehicles because 655 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: I know there's a potential problem. What can I do? Dave, Dave, 656 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: My one question is it doesn't meet their requirement, But 657 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: what's the mileage versus consumption usage? Yes, Toyota does have 658 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: some very specific requirements and specifications, but and I believe 659 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: it to be a court every thousand is okay, but 660 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: a court in nine hundred is not, and so on. 661 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: So what's the spec here? Is this a court in miles? 662 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: This is a courts or is this a court in 663 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: two thousand miles? Because you're going eight thousand miles on 664 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: an oil change. I need some mileage information to better 665 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: answer this. Because if you're close, I think you've got 666 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: a case from you know, telling Toyota. Look, I bought one. 667 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: You've got to do something for me because it's common knowledge. 668 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: They've got ring and piston issues and it's got to 669 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: get addressed. So that's how I would approach it. Look 670 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: at the mileage as well as the consumption. Hey, why 671 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: don't anty in the car doctor until the next time. 672 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless, se