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Speaker 1: Worthy our receiver twenty five. I mean, at times it

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Speaker 1: feels like this Kansas City Chief receiving room is evolving

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Speaker 1: into a shithold for fan because we have to, like, yeah, suspensions,

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Speaker 1: and there's the fact that we don't even really have guys,

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Speaker 1: and then it just seems like it's it's a fluid situation.

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Speaker 1: Worthy took off late in the year Rashi Rice was

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Speaker 1: long gone. What do we think of Worthy heading in

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Speaker 1: the year two? Is he do we see that that

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Speaker 1: guy that we saw for the last you know, six

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Speaker 1: eight games into the playoffs, regardless of what's going on

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Speaker 2: You think yeah, I think, yeah, the Kansas City wide

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Speaker 2: receiver room is a shithole, but I want to go there.

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Speaker 2: Like Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback Andy Reid's the head coach,

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce is you know, in sharp decline is likely

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Speaker 2: his last season. Has there been a suspension yet though,

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Speaker 2: like rash, Rice still hasn't been suspended. But I am

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Speaker 2: factoring in, like you know what, the expected range is

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Speaker 2: potentially four to six games, right, and it looks like

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Speaker 2: the markets kind of projecting both him and Worthy as like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Rice is playing every game, so I think

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Speaker 2: that Worthy factoring that in, I have him as wide

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Speaker 2: if and when Rice is out, I think we'll see

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Speaker 2: late in the air. So I think he could be

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Speaker 2: you know, a mid range wide receiver one without Rice.

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Speaker 2: But even with Rice there, I think he could still

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Speaker 2: So I like him heading into two year two. I

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Speaker 2: this his his ADP's you know, wide receiver twenty. That's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a lot more down and I have him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Rice is. I think Rice is gonna end

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Speaker 1: sure I got this because he's Yahoo was a Bronco,

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, Wide receiver twenty six. This this is low

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Speaker 1: for me. Courtland Sutton is not another guy not sexy,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think he's in his decline phase yet.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the team doesn't either, and they gave him an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not as high as you, but he's he's

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Speaker 2: my wide receiver twenty four, and certainly have him lower

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Speaker 2: so showing some value there. But yeah, he should once

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Speaker 2: So having a guy like Ingram commanding potentially you know,

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Speaker 2: Bonix is entering year two, Bonnicks should only get better,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's generally in these kinds of situations,

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Speaker 1: So the fact that Sutton is I think clearly the

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Speaker 1: The thing that Pickens. The thing about Pickens that worries

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Speaker 1: in that range. She writes, So we just talked about Worthy.

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Speaker 1: Where what are we doing with Rice? How many games

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a lawyer, so

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Speaker 2: I have him at like fourteen games played every receiver

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Speaker 2: like one miss game. But that could change at any moment.

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Speaker 2: suspended four six games. I don't know. But with Rice,

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Speaker 1: In basketball, I think you save them for the big tournaments,

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Speaker 1: Where are you on Ridley? Comm Ridley's wips for twenty

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Speaker 2: I should have lost the bet. I mean, he was

430
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: getting Pepper targets. But like I watched some of that

431
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: Titans game, cam word look good. I like cam Ward again.

432
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: He reminds me of like a smaller Dante Culpepper. He

433
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: is so cool and collected in the pocket, and he

434
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: was looking for Ridley almost every dropback. I think he

435
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: targeted him like four times in a row, really had

436
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: three straight catches and then they pulled them both out

437
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: of the game. But we kind of saw a glimpse

438
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: of this Ward Ridley connection, and I think he's going

439
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: to get a ton of targets. They don't really have,

440
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: you know, true number two yet, so I think he's

441
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: just going to get a ton of targets. More accurate

442
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 2: throws especially downfield, and I think Ward's gonna be looking

443
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: for him constantly. So I think, especially in this wide

444
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: receiver thirty range, he's offering value have him wide receiver

445
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: twenty eight. But again, I haven't really made all the

446
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: tweaks from over the weekend, but I think I'm moving

447
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: them up a little bit more based on what I saw.

448
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna definitely surprise people based on you know,

449
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: last year, couldn't get much worse than that. I think

450
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot lot better with Cam wore

451
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: back there this year.

452
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Speaker 1: You know what might have gotten worse? What the other receiver?

453
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, we kind of joked about,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, who's gonna who's gonna pop in this in

455
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: this receiver room in Tennessee because everyone seems to have

456
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: a different favorite. It is like a flavor of flavor

457
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: of the week, you know, whether it's I you man

458
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Speaker 1: or or uh Dkay or I mean some people, I

459
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: guess Tyler Lockett, you know, throwback Verstreppo's popular one. So

460
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Speaker 1: in week one other preseason I you mentor Bryce Oliver,

461
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: DK Van Jefferson and Restrepo combined for fifty routes two

462
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: catches seventeen yards.

463
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Speaker 2: Yeah great.

464
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Speaker 1: I and R did not catch a target, did not

465
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Speaker 1: catch a passing fourteen routes. All the rookie, I don't think, Yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: none of the rookie DK don't. He got one. He

467
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: got one, one catch of twelve routes. And then Ristrepo

468
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: no catches on eight routes.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty ugly.

470
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Speaker 1: It was pretty you know. I mean, it was preseason,

471
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: so it could have just been a considered effort not

472
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: to to target them. But yeah, and then Tyer Lockett,

473
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Speaker 1: who I didn't even mention, you know, he had He

474
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: had one catch for seven yards, which is about what

475
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: you can expect for him every seven routes seven yards

476
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: deep and fell down.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so point they lost. They lost Nick Westbrook, a

478
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Speaker 2: Kina from last year and his nine touchdowns.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So Calvin Ridley could be a target monster

480
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: on a team. Like you said, upgrade at quarterback, which

481
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: is most important. It's it's somewhat similar, I think to

482
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Speaker 1: the Garrett Wilson situation, where I guess the concern would

483
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Speaker 1: be you could los in on him coverage wise, But

484
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Speaker 1: I mean, it can't be worse than catching passes from

485
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Will Levis and still being in that situation last year anyway,

486
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Speaker 1: So I think it's all upside with Ridley. He's kind

487
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: of like a poor man's version of like a Garrett

488
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Speaker 1: Wilson who goes a lot higher. So I have no

489
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Speaker 1: problem drafting Ridley, which is another new one for me

490
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: because usually I feel like he's a little bit overvalued

491
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: on you know that name value from that crazy season

492
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: he had in Atlanta fe years ago. But I think

493
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: finally we were at a point where good good, good

494
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: ceiling potential and floors not much worry where he's going.

495
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Speaker 1: What do you think about LAVE Wide receiver thirty injury?

496
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: Is the injury baked into this rank here? Or is

497
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Speaker 1: he closer to his ceiling or his floor at at

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Speaker 1: Why receiver thirty? Would you say?

499
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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I think the injury well wide receiver thirty,

500
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: it's probably not baked in at all. If I have

501
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 2: him playing full season, I have him right around here,

502
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: so yeah, probably not baked enough. And since we're dealing

503
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: with concussions, I think that gives me more concern with

504
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: the LAVE because if he does unfortunately get a concussion,

505
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: like I think he had missed a handful of games,

506
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: if not more so, He's kind of in a tricky situation.

507
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: But I think when he's healthy, obviously he has wide

508
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: receiver two upside. You know, callamore going there should help.

509
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: But this quarterback situation is pretty rough. I know you

510
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: watched all the games, so you saw Spencer Ratler and

511
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: Tyler Schuck knocking it up out here in LA. I

512
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: wish you were at that game. I could.

513
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: I was dealing with some things. But yeah, like the

514
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: QB situation's rough.

515
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: You know, where she she heeds back, he's going to

516
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: command his downfield target, so I can't get there for

517
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: a lave at you know, wide receiver thirty But again,

518
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: this is the range where floor isn't as much of

519
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: a concern for me, because if he does stay healthy,

520
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: he has wide wide receiver two upside, and if, unfortunately,

521
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: if he does get a concussion, this is a ton

522
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: of time. He's not gonna kill you drafting him in

523
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: this range because you're technically drafting him for your bench anyway.

524
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: So I could see the case for drafting him or

525
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: skipping him honestly at this point. But yeah, my raw

526
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: ranks have him wide receiver thirty nine just because I

527
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: am docking him one game based on the risk, but

528
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: the upside's there. So again, I think if he falls

529
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: to the wide receiver thirty five range, which he does,

530
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: you could certainly make a case to grab him and

531
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: be aggressive and tap into him being healthy all year

532
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: and being the wide receiver two we know he can be.

533
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a wires. He's right in that wide

534
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: receiver thirty five range for me. But you said you

535
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: didn't like the concussion risk. Can I interest you in

536
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: an ankle injury? Because no, Yeah, he's reportedly dealing with

537
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: an ankle issue. I don't think it's super serious, but

538
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: still don't love to see that when you also have

539
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: other completely set injury rists. So yeah, he might be

540
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: trending downward for me because I could see, you know,

541
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: as this Cleveland situation at quarterback, if shud Or is indeed,

542
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, if he continues to look good or you know,

543
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: Flacco comes back and he looks like the guy you know,

544
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: maybe like Judy would go, would bump up for me.

545
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: He's right in that same spot. And then Matthew Golden

546
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: is is I was already high him, but he's shooting

547
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: up because Jaden Reed's hurt. Golden played a ton of

548
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: snaps with pretty much all the snaps with the ones

549
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: in his first action. And then a guy like Juwan

550
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Jennings even you know he he's in a situation where

551
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: he could quickly move up as if he gets his situation,

552
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, square away. So a lot of guys in

553
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: this range are kind of touch and go, I guess

554
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: you could say with a lobby. So the Lobbie is

555
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: kind of like a placeholder. He's a number one receiver

556
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: on a bad team with the probably a bad quarterback,

557
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: and he has bad injury risks, but he's a talented

558
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: guy otherwise, And there are plenty of question marks among

559
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: all these guys in this range. So it's and I

560
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: don't mind taking a fire like you said, on any

561
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: of the guys we just mentioned. Now it's not for

562
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: segment that we are calling a deep Deep Sleepers presented

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Speaker 1: by Yahoo Fantasy and Sean. So far, we've discussed the

564
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: top thirty ive receivers in i'll last few episodes. So

565
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: let's get a little boat here with a deep deep sleeper.

566
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: And I want to let you go first. My receiver

567
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: way off the list, but I know you and our

568
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: producer Deep Pain have a little wager on who I'm

569
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna pick for mine. So after you do yours, I

570
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: also wants you to give your best guess as to

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Speaker 1: who I'm gonna pick.

572
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: Can't wait for that. Well, let's get mine out of

573
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: the way. It's Tory Horton of the Seahawks, and he's

574
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: the guy that ever since the draft I've been kind

575
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: of high on. I was kind of shocked he actually

576
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: fell to the Seahawks in the fifth round. He was

577
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: actually considered like a second round talent, but he messed

578
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: most of his final season at Colorado State with an

579
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: undisclos knee injury, so I think teams were just kind

580
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: of worried about him. So he landed in Seattle and

581
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: he's been great in camp, and he flashed in preseason

582
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: Week one, caught three passes for thirty one yards and

583
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: a touchdown. So unfortunately the Cats out of the bag

584
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: and his ADPs starting the skyrocket. So he's up to

585
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: you know, wide receiver seventy eight now, so he's still

586
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: a deep deep sleeper, but this wide receiver depth chart

587
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: is wide open for him to make noise as a

588
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: rookie because JSN. Obviously he's locked in as the top

589
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: receiver in top target in this offense. But outside of him,

590
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's wide open. Cooper Cup might not have

591
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: it anymore. MVS is a one trick pony. The tight

592
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: end position is kind of influx after no offense got

593
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: traded away or cut. So you know, Tory Horton has

594
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: a real path to be Sam Darl's number two target

595
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: this year, and I could see that happening. So he's

596
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: definitely a guy considered stashing in deep leagues or dynasty formats.

597
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: But he's a guy been high on, and you know,

598
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: after what I've seen, I'm even higher. So I think

599
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: he's a deep, deep sleeper in drafts right now. I

600
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: love it.

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00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: I think he is the guy. But I gotta get

602
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: your guess because you you in deep pain. We're going

603
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: back and forth for quite a while there, and you

604
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: think you got me figured out. So let's see what

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00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: you got.

606
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: I yeah, I set the line at minus two hundred

607
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: on this. I'm gonna guess it's too too out well.

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00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Is absolutely too too out well. Very good. Guess we've

609
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: seen this before. Too too out well. U. He started

610
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season as an every down player,

611
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: and at one point I guess DeMarcus Robinson ended up

612
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: overtaking him, and then DeMarcus Robinson was also a great

613
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: value in Fantasy. Now it's it's too Too out Well's

614
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: job to lose. Sean McVay has actually expressed regret for

615
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: not using Too to out Well more. He signed a

616
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: one year, ten million dollars proven so he's going to

617
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: be motivated. But he's also compensated very you know, a lot,

618
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: I think, a lot higher than people would have thought.

619
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: And that's because his role is going to you know,

620
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of reflect that and you're in a situation where

621
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: they have a strong backup quarterback, even if Stafford's dealing

622
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: with an injury. And I just think to Too out

623
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Well is a guy that he can sneak into the

624
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: top fifty very easily because he gets targeted. He can

625
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: get targeted at a very high rate. Gadget guy, and

626
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: he would I would compare him to a Marvin Mims

627
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: type of guy who just exploded onto the seed down

628
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the stretch last year. Consistent value every week. That could

629
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: be too to out Well except starting from week one,

630
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: or it could be the DeMarcus Robinson version either way

631
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: to to out, well, I've seen him go outside the

632
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: top one hundred. I believe he's he is one oh

633
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: eight on Yahoo, so you guys need to scoop him up.

634
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: Horton as well. These guys, uh, these guys are really

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Speaker 1: popping in our models. So those are our deep deep sleepers.

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Speaker 1: Sponsored by Yahoo Fantasy. Tory Horton to to at well.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, this episode is presented by Yahoo Fantasy,

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Speaker 1: all right, Jamison Williams, I have him higher than wide

664
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: receiver thirty one. So these are actually really interesting to me.

665
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: It kind of speaks to just the wide range of

666
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: outcomes for a lot of the receivers outside that that

667
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver one tier. But Jamo, I think, you know,

668
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: generally there there are multiple ways for him, multiple outs

669
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: kind of for him to hit. Whether the Lions take

670
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: a step back or you know, they continue to progress

671
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: without Ben Johnson. What are your thoughts on JMO entering

672
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: year number four with but without Ben Johnson.

673
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a tricky player to project because

674
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm high on him no matter what. I mean. He

675
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: broke out near three, which wasn't too surprising because you know,

676
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: the first two seasons were rough for him. The first

677
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: season he was coming back from a torn acl in

678
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: his final season at college in the championship game, so

679
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: he was never going to be one hundred percent of

680
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: his rookie season. Then near two he had the suspension.

681
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: Year three was his first real like full offseason and

682
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: played the whole season he broke out. And this year,

683
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, they're working on expanding his route tree. Maybe

684
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: he's going to see more gimme layup throws, targets, so

685
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: to speak. So it's all there for him to get

686
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: even better this year. And yeah, without Ben Johnson, it's unclear,

687
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, if that's going to hurt him or not.

688
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: They could be more pass heavy. You know, they're very

689
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: reliant on the run and setting up you know, play

690
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: action things like that, so he could just see more

691
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 2: volume as a result in this new offense. And last

692
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: year he was twentieth in points per game. So I

693
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I think I agree. I think I have

694
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: much higher than wide receiver thirty one. I have him

695
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: around wide receiver twenty five, and this is the range

696
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: where I love getting a player that has that trajectory

697
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: and that upside to be your wide receiver three. So

698
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm very high in I. Like you said, there's there's

699
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: multiple outs where if yeah, the Lions are you know,

700
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: their offense struggles, maybe they're more trailing game scripts. As

701
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: a result, he could actually see more volume specifically, So

702
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm not too worried about the offense, you know, taking

703
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: a step back. In terms of Jamo's upside, I think

704
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: his upside separate. So I'm all about investing him his

705
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 2: you know, year four season potentially being his best.

706
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have him wide receiver twenty four. No issues

707
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: with him. I think if he expands his route treat

708
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: it's gravy. But the thing about new offensive coordinator John

709
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Morton is that he the one thing he's said definitely

710
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: that he wants to do a little bit more, a

711
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: little bit differently that he's confirmed is throw deep, and

712
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: that benefits Jamo more than anything you know, you could get.

713
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: You can get cute with a couple more lay up

714
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: throws for him, but really he's gonna win down the

715
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: field and that's where he's really gonna take off for fantasy.

716
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that is capable of the

717
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: adyr touchdown multiple times a season at receiver. And this

718
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: Wine offense has been so run heavy to your point,

719
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: they've been so successful, so you know, maybe you lose

720
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: some efficiency and you make it up with volume. There's

721
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: I think the most risky players in the Lions offense

722
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: are David Montgomery and Sam Laporta because both of those

723
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: players are guys who could end up blocking on certain snaps.

724
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: You know that they're not always going to be in

725
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: the rounte like Jamis and Williams there. They've they've increased

726
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: his playing time. They started doing it last year. He's

727
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: on the field every down. Uh, it's hard to hard

728
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: to really poke holes in his game outside of he's

729
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: not the number one receiver on his team. But you know,

730
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: now we're in the mid you know, twenties and into

731
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: the thirties at times in ADP perfect perfect.

732
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: I agree.

733
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: I think you got to take the seal on here

734
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: with Jamos so he I would take him over a

735
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: lot of the guys we mentioned in the in the

736
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: last pot who have been ranked higher, So Jamo, I

737
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: think we're both unanimously high on Jamis Williams entering year

738
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: four roma Doonsday. What say you about a doonsday at

739
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: WIREC with thty two, it's a little rich for me.

740
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: What do you think?

741
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

742
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we definitely see him improve a ton

743
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: in year two. Just he and Caleb weren't on the

744
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: same page last year downfield or you know, in the

745
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: red zone, so that wasn't entirely his fault. Plus, you know,

746
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: it's a different scheme. I think just having Ben Johnson

747
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: there will help a Duneesay significantly. So he was one

748
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: of the better wide receiver prospects from last year's class,

749
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: which looks like it's like a historically loaded wide receiver

750
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: class at this point, So I think that's why he

751
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: might be slept on a little bit this year. Plus

752
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: he was a similar, like similar to JSN and cdee Lamb.

753
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: You know, he landed on a team that already had

754
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 2: to established wide receivers and DJ Moore and Keenan Allen,

755
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: so I did expect him to kind of ease in

756
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: in year one and potentially year two or three is

757
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: when he would erupt. So now with you know, Kean

758
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: Allen gone, that helps you know, vault him up to

759
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: the number two option at wide receiver at least. So yeah,

760
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: I think we see him bounce back here. I also

761
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: think he's one of the cheaper ways to really invest in,

762
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, Caleb Williams and this offense if you do think,

763
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, it'll take the next step with Ben Johnson.

764
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: So he could be sneaking in this range. And I

765
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I have him ranked wide receiver thirty three,

766
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: so kind of in line with this and ADP. But

767
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: I think he is one of those players in this

768
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: range where his ceiling could be you know, like wide

769
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: receiver two, you know, high end wide receiver two if

770
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: all things click this year. So he's a guy that

771
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: everybody might be kind of sleeping on for a year

772
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: year or two breakout.

773
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say at this at this level,

774
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: I would say it's I feel the opposite. I feel

775
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: like people are kind of taking it for granted that

776
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: he is going to have this year two breakout because

777
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: I do think he improves. I didn't see warnings tis

778
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: with him even though he had like a not great

779
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: rookie year. I mean, it wasn't bad, but I didn't

780
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: see the same morning Simes I saw. Let's say, it's

781
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: like a Quentin Johnson in terms of you know, it

782
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: took him, you know a little longer. He never still

783
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: hasn't truly broken out, aside from I think he had

784
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: that that monster game against the Raiders.

785
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: I think it was.

786
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: But my issue was a doing day in the in

787
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: the high thirties or I guess you call low thirties,

788
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: is you're taking him over guys that either have more

789
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: talent like a Travis Hunter, or that are the number

790
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: one receivers for their teams like Judy and Golden and

791
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: guys like that. So he just he's in a weird

792
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: range where I think it is kind of being taken

793
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: for granted. If he's going to y receiver thirty two,

794
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: that not only is he gonna have a year or

795
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: two break up, but also that this Bear's offense is

796
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna hit the ground running, which we know Caleb Williams now.

797
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean he had all these coordinators last year and

798
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: all the things going on, but now he's got to

799
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: learn another new offense, and he does have, you know,

800
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: some other new pieces around him that he's also got

801
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: to get familiar with. He's got some new linemen. So

802
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: just like last year when we looked at Caleb Williams

803
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and like, all right, he's set up well, he's set

804
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: up well again, even even better, but it could take

805
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: some time and at as such, I think it could

806
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: take o'dunesay a little bit of time. So like, I'm

807
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: just not positive that he has the same value you

808
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: know for the first let's say four to six weeks

809
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: that he has for the last four to six weeks,

810
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: and so more of a best ball pick for me.

811
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: That that's why, that's why I'm a little well on him.

812
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: I have him in the I have him in the forties,

813
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: I have him watched over forty three, like he's in

814
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: that Jeordan Madison kind of range, you know, or I

815
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: just I'm just a little uncertain about I think the

816
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: range of outcomes a little wider.

817
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fair. I think he's definitely not a lock,

818
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: and I think that people are definitely buying in, you know,

819
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: for year two breakout. That's why I'm kind of in

820
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: line with his ADP he was, you know, the ninth

821
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: pick overall, But I like, I would not be shocked

822
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: if we see like a Nico Collins career arc where

823
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: the first couple of seasons he's kind of just hovering around,

824
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: you know what we saw, and then just a rup

825
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: when he does figure it out. So it might not

826
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: be this year, but I'm definitely interested in buying in

827
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: a little bit still to Doomsay becoming you know, a

828
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 2: wide receiver two in fantasy. So yeah, I'm split again.

829
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm right in line with ADP, but I think it

830
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: he is still you know, possessing the talent and has

831
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: the upside to get there. It just might take another

832
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: year or so, but I'm still willing to invest in him.

833
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's fair and you know where he

834
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I think that the talent is definitely there, and so

835
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: any of those that type of guy he could be

836
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: a receiver. Well he could overtake DJ Moore. That's his ceiling.

837
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: So I get it. But when I when I weigh him,

838
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: he just it just comes out of it a more

839
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: toward the other end, because you have a lot of

840
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: guys with ceiling and I couldn't justify taking out Doonday

841
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: over this guy, this next guy at this point, and

842
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: that's Travis Hunter at wide receiver thirty three. I have

843
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: him wide receiver twenty eight. I think with Hunter, we

844
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: talked about this a few weeks ago, I think, and

845
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: I think he kind of settled on to just just

846
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: not overthink it. With Hunter, He's got an offensive coach,

847
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: he's generational talent. He'll get snaps on offense. And it

848
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: was a small sample, but he did play route you know,

849
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: over eighty percent of the routes, and that's kind of

850
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: where I think we can expect expect him to be

851
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: at this season. So with that kind of talent, I mean,

852
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: where are you ranking and taking Hunter if you are

853
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: getting him.

854
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I have him right around here like wide

855
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: receiver thirty two. But again, he is a very tricky

856
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: projection because he is going to be playing defense as well.

857
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: But you know, Liam Cohen already hinted that he expects

858
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: an eighty percent snap right which is great, be fantastic

859
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: if he does, which I'm projecting right now. But we

860
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: saw him play eighty eight percent of the snaps with

861
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: Lawrence in Week one preseason, zero snaps with the starters

862
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: on defense anything and change, but just from a projection standpoint,

863
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: that would be very good for his outlooks, so that

864
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: that would put him inside my top thirty if that's

865
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: the case. And I see a lot of people still

866
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: they kind of think of him as like this this

867
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: hybrid that like a really good cornerback that's like trying

868
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: to play wide receiver. I'm not putting, you know, words

869
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: in people's mouths, but he was a very high end

870
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver prospect like that also happens to play cornerback.

871
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: So he's a unicorn where yeah, he he could hit

872
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: the ground running and be a top thirty wide receiver

873
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: playing across from Brian Thomas Junior. So he doesn't have

874
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: the pressure to be the number one target right away,

875
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: but he is definitely going to be the number two

876
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: target and what could be an ascending offense. So yeah,

877
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: I think that he is definitely another one of those guys.

878
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: I think him and a Dunsday are great targets in

879
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: this range if you're just going for talent and upside.

880
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have him ranked slightly higher, like wide

881
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: receiver thirty one, But he's a guy that's that's trending up.

882
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: If you look at ADP. It was in free fall

883
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: around like mid May. I don't know what. I think

884
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: there were some tweets of him goofing off at practice

885
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: or just negative reports. I didn't get it. So now's

886
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: the time to buy low. I think this is going

887
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: to be the bottom of his market, so now it

888
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: would be the time to invest in him for sure.

889
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's number two overall pick this I'm actually I

890
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: feel a lot more certain even then just saying, you know,

891
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: he like he could be a top like I think,

892
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty much a lock that if he

893
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get injured in this offense, he's I mean,

894
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: this is his floor, and I would take him one

895
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: hundred times out of one hundred over a doonsday. Honestly,

896
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: I know that might be a bad might looked really

897
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: bad in a couple of months, but or you know,

898
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: all the season's all of a sudden done. But I

899
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: stand by it. I just think, you know, Donday is

900
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: a good talent. Hundred is a great one. That's that's all.

901
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: It's it's you're talking about the number two overall pick,

902
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: who a team just traded half its draft war, who

903
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: played essentially all the staffs on offense and defense and

904
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: did it well and now has in recent memory probably

905
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: the offensive coach who had who made the most impact

906
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: on his team, UH from one year to the next

907
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: with him, you know, with con taking over as the

908
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: oco the Bucks and them going from you know, twenty

909
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: just under twenty one points the game to over twenty nine.

910
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: I think there's just so much upside with him to

911
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: where I mean, he could be a top five wide receiver.

912
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: That's his ceiling in year one in this offense, especially

913
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: you had Jalen McMillan last year. He only really showed

914
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: up for what like half the year he was a factor,

915
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: and he's still He finishes out of the top fifty

916
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: on thirteen games played and fifty eight target I think Hunter.

917
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: You would probably expect Hunter to get double that amount

918
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: of targets this year just in a normal eighty percent role.

919
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: So I think there's just massive upside. He's a hard projection.

920
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I get that, and I think that's that's part way

921
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: to explain because like oh Donsday, you know, he's he's

922
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: more of an easy projection where he played almost every

923
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: snap last year, so you can just kind of carry

924
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: it over adding some improvement on his rate stats and

925
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: you get to go whereas Hunter, there's all these questions, Mark,

926
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: how good is the RC, how many snaps are you

927
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: gonna play? What is the impact of cone? So there's

928
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: all these things. So I'm I'm bullish on all of them,

929
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: but I just don't think there's I don't think there's

930
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: as much uncertainty as the as the market. So hunters

931
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, I'm almost you. I think it's the

932
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: bottom and it'll continue to be the bottom of the market.

933
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: He's he has to go up from here. I mean

934
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: he was where where did he peak in? Uh? I

935
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: would I want to say he peaked in the like

936
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: around wide receiver twenty at one point in the offseason

937
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: in basketball, but before yeah, the downturn. So yeah, that's

938
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: that's That's a that could look very fair by by

939
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: the time it's all said and done for Hunter. Just

940
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: don't overthink the talent is is my what I'm what

941
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm going with in my dress. Curious shawness your thoughts

942
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: on tat McMillan Wide receiver thirty four? Uh, he was

943
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: a guy I think warranted some skepticism at times. You know,

944
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: his coaches weren't really talking them up the way they

945
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: do kind of give him more of the tough love.

946
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: But thirty four seems very, very very fair for a

947
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: guy who's likely going to be the number one on

948
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: his team from day one.

949
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd love to get him wide receiver thirty four. Unfortunately,

950
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: he's going inside the top twenty and a lot of

951
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: drafts right now, so his stock has been going way up,

952
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: probably to an uncomfortable rate for me to draft him.

953
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, he could certainly be a

954
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: high end wide receiver two, but I think he has

955
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: a wide range of outcomes. Then I think people realize

956
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: I think, like Travis Hunter has a similar range of

957
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: outcomes and you can get them significantly later. You know,

958
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: Ted is a good downfill threat. We saw that that

959
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: sweet twenty nine. I think it was like a twenty

960
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: nine yard completion down on the sideline from Bryce Young.

961
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: We're hitting at much separation, he just caught it on

962
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: the sideline. I think we're going to see a lot

963
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: of that this year. But you know, one of his

964
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: concerns was drops. He had like an eight percent drop

965
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: rate his last season in Arizona. He dropped two of

966
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: his five targets in week winter preseason. That is not good.

967
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: And you know he could improve that. That's something that's

968
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: obviously teachable and he can improve. But still that is

969
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: a slight concern in his game. And this is still,

970
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, a pretty run heavy offense. I think they're

971
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: going to lean on Chuba Hubbard and Rico Daddle this year,

972
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: so there's not going to be a ton of volume.

973
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: And you still have you know, Adam Feelin and my

974
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: guy Jalen Kocher going off Phil. So I mean he's

975
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: going to be the number one target, but I don't.

976
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: I can't get there. At wide receiver nineteen, I think

977
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: he has a lower floor than people think. Whereas you know,

978
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: he's a sexy rookie, you know, with a ton of upside.

979
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: That's why I think his stock shot up. But I

980
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: have him wide receiver twenty six right now, right around

981
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: that range, So I'm a little bit lower than the market.

982
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: But where are you with him?

983
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: So I have a wide receiver thirty, so I'm even lower.

984
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: But I think that ultimately in this range, these are

985
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: ceiling guys now at this point, and I think he

986
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: has the ceiling like he's he's in this range of

987
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: uncertain likely wide receiver ones with guys like Jerry Judy,

988
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: guys like Chris Olave, guys like Jakobe Myers. It's that

989
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: Juan Jennings like he's that this is just the type

990
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: of player that you're gonna get in this range. And

991
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: with McMillan, you're getting a guy who has the draft pedigree,

992
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: young first round. Uh, you know, top ten pick for

993
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: for a team with still a bad defense, even though

994
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: I do agree I think they want to be run heavy,

995
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: but they might have the worst defense in the league.

996
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: So uh, similar to the Jaguars could be in that predicament.

997
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars will be better on d though,

998
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: but Panthers d not not very good. So has that

999
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: that Cincinnati type Jamar Chase T Higgins, Joe Burrow upside.

1000
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm coming around on tip, but you're right.

1001
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I think the every every time I come around on him,

1002
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: the market is is even higher. So uh, exactly, it's

1003
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: but there's I mean, he's he goes. He doesn't always

1004
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: go top twenty everywhere. It really depends where you're drafted.

1005
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: And I can see a lot of these like team

1006
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: this whole wide receiver two to three tier because because

1007
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: of the guys after them, like you have like Stefan

1008
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: Diggs with the question marks he has and uh Addison

1009
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: with a suspension, like you kind of know who's gonna

1010
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: be taken in these inside the top let's say thirty

1011
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: five forty, But I don't.

1012
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: Think we know the order.

1013
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: Like the order, I think it's gonna vary a ton

1014
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: even by from the time of recording this to twenty

1015
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: four hours from now, just depending on what league you're in,

1016
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: whether you're in basketball. I mean most you know, if

1017
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: you're having your fantasy draft now, I think you're you're early,

1018
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,719
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Speaker 1: by Yahoo Fantasy. Chris Godwin is the wide receiver thirty

1034
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: five and Yahoo's Ranks AP. You know, we kind of

1035
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: had a feeling that there could be something up with

1036
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: god with now we're hearing that in his quest to

1037
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: return from injury. No real timeline might might yeah, definitely

1038
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: not doesn't sound like a week one he's in situation,

1039
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: and it almost sounds more like a potential start the

1040
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: year on the Putt list situation. To be clear, none

1041
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: of that's been confirmed, just you know from what the

1042
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: meet he has been asking the coaches what they've been saying.

1043
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: That's what it seems to be heading towards. What do

1044
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: you think how do you think it ultimately plays out

1045
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: as far as when Godwin gets back on the field

1046
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: and when did he get to full strength?

1047
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I have no idea, but it's definitely

1048
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: a concern because apparently he had to get a second surgery, yeah,

1049
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: on his ankle, which is a big concern. Usually it's

1050
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: one surgery and then you know you recover, but having

1051
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: to get a second is not good at all. He's

1052
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: you know, been dealing with injuries for a few seasons now,

1053
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 2: I think if I recall, right, and he did sign

1054
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: that contract, but it was a concern that they did

1055
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: draft a wide receiver in the first round and a

1056
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: Mecca Abuka. Maybe the Buccaneers kind of knew that they're

1057
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: they're not going to be with They're going to be

1058
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: missing Chris Goblin to start the year, so if you

1059
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 2: read the tea leaves. But he's one of those guys

1060
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: when he is healthy. I mean, he was the number

1061
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: two overall wide receiver last year after the first seven weeks.

1062
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: I think his projection would be lower with a guy

1063
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: like Ambuka in the mix. But yeah, this is a

1064
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: tricky situation right now. I'm projecting and miss like the

1065
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: first week or two, but this could you know, turn

1066
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: into a four to six week absence if they put

1067
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: him on the pup. So he's someone I'm definitely monitoring closely,

1068
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: you know, Unlike Rashid Rice where we know he's gonna

1069
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: come back. He's not even suspending yet, but if he

1070
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: does get suspended, he's going to be fully healthy. Chris

1071
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: Godwin's a situation where if he misses the first, say

1072
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: four games, we don't know if he's going to be,

1073
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: you know, on a fifty percent snapcat when he does return.

1074
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: So this could be you know, five to six weeks

1075
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: in the season, you haven't been able to even start

1076
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin yet. So that's why I'm moving him down

1077
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: my ranks right now. I think I have him wide

1078
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: receiver forty one now, so I'm a bit lower factoring

1079
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: that risk. But how are you handling this because this

1080
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: is is a tricky and I don't really know the

1081
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: latest on him.

1082
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: Well, so the latest I've seen the same thing you've

1083
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: seen that we got wind of the second surgery, and

1084
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: it seems like the timeline for his return is growing

1085
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: further into the seasons. It seems more likely than not

1086
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be ready for week one,

1087
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: which I mean if you kind of right between the teams,

1088
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: maybe he come to that same conclusion, but it seems

1089
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit more being stated now. So yeah,

1090
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm worried about Godwin just because number one

1091
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: got Liam Cohne gone. So you know that because Godwin

1092
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: was coming off an injury the year prior, No he had.

1093
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: He had the injury in twenty twenty one, right, and

1094
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: then came back and then he was you know, he

1095
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: was good, but he wasn't wide receiver. Two level got

1096
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: to that with William Cohen, and now he's coming off

1097
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: another injury they got. They're four deep at wide receiver

1098
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: at least we're really I mean they they rotate all

1099
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: these guys that I mean, they have a very deep

1100
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: receiving core to where Godwin doesn't have to play it

1101
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: a ton of staffs before he's ready. So I just

1102
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: think there's a wide range of outcomes. And if I

1103
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: can't get a guy in best ball for you know,

1104
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: the full season, I tend to shy away and in

1105
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: season long, I agree. I think you're like, I have

1106
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: fifty two, so I have a wide receiver fifty two,

1107
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: so I'm even lower. I'm just being really conservative with

1108
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: him because I'm not gonna know when to start him

1109
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: in season long at the rate we're going at. I

1110
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: think Abuca complicates things even further, because Abuka could be

1111
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: just so good that even when god Win's in there,

1112
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: we know Evan's gonna play the X role mostly, but

1113
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: Abuga could we frogg a healthy Godwin for for number

1114
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: for number two wide receiver snaps, he can block, you

1115
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: can run back, he can do all these things. And uh,

1116
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: he's a lot younger and presumably more healthy or just

1117
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: more durable, I should say, like West, like we get hurt.

1118
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: So it is widering outcomes that I'm comfortable with with Godwin.

1119
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's I'm not really drafting him at

1120
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: this point. He's kind of he's I'm ranking him low

1121
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: enough that I'm just not really getting any anything god

1122
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: would at that range. Jordan Adison another you get another

1123
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: one of these guys missing games. But we know the

1124
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: about games. It's three wide receiver thirty six, and yeah,

1125
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: who's ranks.

1126
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: I have him.

1127
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: Wide receiver forty one. So really it's just kind of

1128
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: factoring in the the three miss games and then doing

1129
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: the math. So that is that where you have him

1130
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: high or lower? What do you think of Addison this year?

1131
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have him right around there. I have wide

1132
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: receiver forty three. But It is nice having clarity on it,

1133
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: and it's helped his ADP drop quite a bit, so

1134
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: that's good. You know, he's a guy that he was

1135
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty one in points per game last season.

1136
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: He has really good chemistry JJ McCarthy. I know, you know,

1137
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson wasn't there, but they still hooked up for

1138
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: three catches thirty three yards. You know they're they're playing him,

1139
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: getting him work because they know he's going to miss

1140
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: the first three games. But I think he has really

1141
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: good chemistry with McCarthy, So not worried about you know,

1142
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: the QB change there, and you know he goes late enough,

1143
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: he's going to be what your wide receiver four, even

1144
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: wide receiver five. You don't need him to start the

1145
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: three games anyway to begin the season. You have three

1146
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: to four wide receivers ahead of him, Like, why not

1147
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: stash him on your bench and then he's going to

1148
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: be fully healthy then bye weeks happen, injuries happen. He'd

1149
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: be great to have on your bench. So my you know,

1150
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: my rank for him's forty three, but I would draft

1151
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: him in that, So I wouldn't draft him here at

1152
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: wide receiver thirty six. But yeah, he's definitely a guy

1153
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: that I could see, you know, stashing on your bench.

1154
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: His ADP probably hasn't even dropped as far as we'll

1155
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: see it. His market probably hasn't bottomed out quite yet.

1156
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: So he's a player that, yeah, I think in these situations,

1157
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm willing to stash based on where he's going and

1158
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: why he's missing the first three games. But yeah, I

1159
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: definitely like Addison if he falls outside the top forty here.

1160
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he has the upside like we saw it

1161
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: last year. Now there, I mean McCarthy could be a

1162
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: little bit more lower volume. You know, they could run

1163
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: more heavy personnel, but that doesn't really hurt Addison when

1164
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: he's on the field, because that would that would just

1165
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: put probably it would take nail Or off and put

1166
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: on Oliver, which I think that would be better news

1167
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: for Addison. But there's somewhat of a wir range outcome.

1168
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: So for me, yeah, I'm I'm fine drafting him here.

1169
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: I think he's a smart pick, even in in redraft

1170
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: because he seems at first like a little bit more

1171
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: of a basketball pick. But then to your point, it's

1172
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: you're not gonna need him to start, and he has

1173
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: that starter upside like that wide receiver two upside that

1174
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: he showed last year. So I think he's a great

1175
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: pick in his range. But I will say that, you know,

1176
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: if you're in redraft, you're not drafting yet. The range

1177
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 1: from I would say, what like wide receiver thirty on down,

1178
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: like starting around after Ridley, maybe when you're starting to

1179
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: look at you know, Tet and Waddle and Myers and Elave,

1180
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: Judy Golden, Juwan, Jennings, Pickings, Kalosha, Kiir, Deebo, Stefan Diggs,

1181
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: Duneesa's there, Josh Downs, all those guys. Pittman, maybe you

1182
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: throwing there. I think this is the range that I'm

1183
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna be tweaking the most because it's just gonna come

1184
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: down to who's healthy, who's popping, you know, who's who's

1185
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: playing well over the net, over the remainder of can

1186
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: and that's you know, there's that's. This is the kind

1187
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: of the key I think the key area at receiver,

1188
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: and there'll be a couple of guys to jump into

1189
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: that into this tier. Abuka is another guy, so uh,

1190
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of movement for

1191
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: me in this wide receiver thirty to fifty range, and

1192
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: this is where you find your A lot of your

1193
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: value plays there. Yeah, I know you're you're very familiar

1194
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: with that. So U you think, how like, how static

1195
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: do you think you are with what you have now

1196
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: versus let's say a week from now, two weeks from now,

1197
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: in terms of oh, it's that range.

1198
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: Oh it's gonna be a disaster, it's gonna be jumping around.

1199
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think this is the range that like,

1200
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: that's why we kind of want to draft these guys, right,

1201
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: because these guys, something can happen, and some of these

1202
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: guys are gonna end up I don't know inside my

1203
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: top thirty, whereas yeah, when you look at the top twenty,

1204
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be pretty static. Uh, you know,

1205
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: waiting on Terry McLaurin and Rashid Rice news. Other than that,

1206
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: those guys are pretty much locked in. We know how

1207
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: to project, you know, Mike Evans at this point. But

1208
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: this range, you know, there's so much uncertainty. You got

1209
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden going up by ranks, your ranks probably, so

1210
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: there's all this movement. That's kind of why we we

1211
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: like drafting these guys. That that upward trajectory is possible

1212
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: at least in this range.

1213
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And you also have I mean there's guys

1214
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: who didn't even mention Darnell Mooney if he how much

1215
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: times are you gonna miss with the shoulder Jaden Reed?

1216
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: How much time is he gonna miss? If any Uh,

1217
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of guys who are hurt and

1218
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of hurting their value that they could still

1219
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: conceivably be back.

1220
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: For week one.

1221
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: And you have a guy like Rashid Shahed who's just

1222
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: because he missed a large portion of the season, he's

1223
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: kind of going under the radar, but uh, you know

1224
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: he could be undervalued even with the quarterback situation. Pier

1225
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: Saw is the guy that you know, we didn't even

1226
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: talk about. Some people are higher than others, but just

1227
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: so many guys in this range. So this is this

1228
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: is the one where I think you definitely want to

1229
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: stay tapped into our rankings over at Fantasy Labs and

1230
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of minds her as we because we're going to

1231
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: be flipping these a lot. But I do want to

1232
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: talk about some of the wide receivers outside the top

1233
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: thirty six that we went you know, one by one

1234
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: and just get your top value sean wide receiver thirty

1235
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: seven on. Essentially you're number four, you're number five, you

1236
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: number six fantasy receivers.

1237
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this first guy, don't think you're drafting him

1238
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: in a ten team league that starts two wide receivers.

1239
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: But I'm going to go Tory Horton, who's you know,

1240
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: around wide receiver eighty right now? But his value is

1241
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: skyrocketing and he's the guy that ever since the draft,

1242
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: I loved his landing spot in Seattle, didn't love the

1243
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: you know, he got drafted in the fifth round, but

1244
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: he's not really a fifth round talent. He's like a

1245
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, Day two kind of wide receiver. He dealt

1246
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: with a knee injury that we don't even know what

1247
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: it was. I think that forced him to miss most

1248
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: of his senior seat or his last season at Colorado State.

1249
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: But he's a very talented receiver. We've already seen that

1250
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: in camp. He's bawling out. Caught three passes for thirty

1251
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: one yards in a tuddy in Week one of the preseason,

1252
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: so we already know, you know, JSN is going to

1253
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: be the top target, but outside of that, it's wide

1254
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: open so I think Horton has a chance to be

1255
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: the number two target in this offense. So he's a

1256
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: guy that if you're in a deeper league, you know,

1257
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: get a flyer in him or a dynasty format. But

1258
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: if you're in you know, traditional league, he's probably not

1259
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: you know, high enough to get. But a guy that

1260
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: I do want to mention similar to Roma Doomsday were

1261
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm projecting him basically in line with ADP

1262
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: but it's his second year, so I just want to

1263
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: talk to him about it a little bit and get

1264
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: your thoughts on him. But it's Ricky Pearcell around wide

1265
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: receiver thirty four. I think could at the end of

1266
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: the season look like, wow, I can't believe he was

1267
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: going that late, because you know, he had a slow

1268
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: start to his rookie season and we didn't really expect

1269
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: him to do much a year one because they had

1270
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: Brandon Deebo, Samuel George Kittle already. But you know, he

1271
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: got shot what was it exactly a year ago like

1272
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: around this time, so he missed you know, the first

1273
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: half of the season essentially, and then once he did

1274
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: suit up, you know, it took him some time to

1275
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: really get going. But if you look at the end

1276
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: of the season, you know, those final three games, you know,

1277
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: he was putting up wide receiver two numbers. So I

1278
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: think he's a guy that, considering they moved on from

1279
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel Brandon Ayuk you I know you've been fading him.

1280
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: He has now been confirmed to miss what the at

1281
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: least the first four games, potentially six. Juwan Jennings is

1282
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: dealing with you know, ankle injury and contract dispute. So

1283
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersall, could you know, have to step up right

1284
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: away this year. I think he is ready. I think,

1285
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: you know, he was a really good prospect last year

1286
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: that we thought, you know, would be a year or

1287
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: two year three breakout. So I'd be remiss to not

1288
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: mention him at least in this wide receiver thirty four range.

1289
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of guys that we like

1290
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: in this range, but he's certainly a guy that the

1291
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: end of the season could could significantly outperform as adp.

1292
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pierce All is just not I just I just

1293
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: don't see it with him. I'm generally lower than almost

1294
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: everybody on him, but it's it's not as much I've

1295
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: seen these fatal flaws. So I'm not like writing him

1296
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: off as much as I'm just I just have him

1297
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: as I just see him as a little bit more.

1298
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: I guess made like that's just where I'm at with him. Like,

1299
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: so I have him wide receiver fifty three, which is,

1300
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, much lower than consensus. And my thing with

1301
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: him is he had the he had the monster game

1302
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: against Detroit. Now remember that was a game where their

1303
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: defense was going through it. And then and then he

1304
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: had the final him of the season. He also had

1305
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: a pretty decent stat line, but it was in a

1306
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 1: forty seven to twenty four cardinal blowout of the Niners,

1307
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: and it was with Josh Dobbs starting at at quarterbacks.

1308
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: So just like you could say, you know, he had

1309
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: like a great ends to the season, you can also

1310
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,520
Speaker 1: say a lot of those a lot of those circumstances

1311
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily repeatable. And when he was playing with I think,

1312
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: what's a little bit more indicative of what will happen

1313
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: this year? You know, in the middle of the year,

1314
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: I mean, he would go long stretches without without many catches,

1315
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: without targets even at point, so that that is probably

1316
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: something that I guess it did. I guess you would

1317
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: call that a red fox. So yeah, that's the concern

1318
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 1: with him. But it kind of evens out for me

1319
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: to where he's just this meeting yore guy on a

1320
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: team that I see a lot of potential ways the

1321
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: routes could be split up. Right, So it's you know,

1322
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: you have are you there who's been dominant at times?

1323
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: When does he come back? You have jettings that was

1324
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: dominant last year? Are we just you know, as it

1325
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: much ado about nothing with him? Kiddle's still there, McCaffrey,

1326
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: how healthy is he? Because then you're you're quickly in

1327
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: a situation where if you comes back and everyone plays

1328
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: like they played last year, Piercell is the number five

1329
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver, right like he would be the number five target,

1330
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: he would be the starter. Yeah right, and that's that's

1331
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: generally not what you want.

1332
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, that he has a wide right yea, But yeah,

1333
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I'm saying in this range, Uh,

1334
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: you're kind of taking that. I wouldn't take him over

1335
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: a Doomsday or Travis Hunter. I think those guys are

1336
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: obviously providing a more clear, you know, floor ceiling combo.

1337
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: But he's just the guy that he is interesting and yeah,

1338
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: he had that disaster stretch week eleven through fifteen, but

1339
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: if you look, there was a couple of games there

1340
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: was it was like a monsoon and a blizzard. There

1341
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: were some really bad weather games in there. So I

1342
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: just I just wanted to bring him up. I'm not

1343
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: saying I'm drafting them in every league or anything, but

1344
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: he I think he is going to have like a

1345
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 2: year or two breakout and yeah, like he would be

1346
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: like I don't even want to say discount like ninety

1347
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: nine cent store lad McConkie potential this year where he

1348
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: just ends up being much much better because he wasn't

1349
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 2: really expected to do much his rookie season, even before

1350
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: the shootings. So I just think this this would if

1351
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: there was ever a time to buy in on him,

1352
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: it would be now.

1353
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I just think the price because where's

1354
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: he going.

1355
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that my only hang up with him, My only

1356
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: hang up is he is going around wide receiver thirty four. Unfortunately,

1357
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: the market is much much sharper.

1358
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's I think that's that's

1359
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: that's overvaluing him. I mean compared to some of the

1360
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: other guys like him and dun they both. I think

1361
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,520
Speaker 1: you're just kind of taken for granted these two breakouts.

1362
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, his medium, like I would if you if you

1363
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: said a prop on that, that's much different. But if

1364
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: if you said his range of outcomes, his ceiling. Again,

1365
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: this is the range I think where we're just kind

1366
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: of betting on ceiling. I think his ceiling is you know,

1367
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver, two options, So that's kind of what I'm

1368
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: getting at where I agree. I think the price makes

1369
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: it tricky to click on him, but I would still

1370
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: take him over some of these guys in this range,

1371
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 2: like a Deebo Samuel. I think his his best days

1372
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: are behind him. But you know, rookie Piersoll, there's there's

1373
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 2: that unknown factor, which is what I'm getting at. His

1374
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: ceiling is still there and it could happen this year

1375
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: it might not. But at wide receiver thirty four, you know,

1376
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: this is the range to kind of roll the dice

1377
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 2: on players like that in spots.

1378
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean I I would actually argue

1379
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: it's a little high. I would say, like thirty six,

1380
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: like outside like the twelveth team league. I think you want,

1381
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: like you want to kind of get as many of

1382
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: the top thirty six guys like that, and then you

1383
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: start doing it like then you start pivoting. So like

1384
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: that's how we's been my strategy. I usually usually about

1385
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: top forty, so I appreciate the guys and so it's

1386
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: more about costs, like they're it's kind of like the

1387
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 1: running back to two three tier this year, where whoever,

1388
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: falsey you're not, you're not upset about it necessarily, but

1389
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: it's more like, okay, whoever, they're a lot more interchangeable.

1390
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,959
Speaker 1: That's how I kind of see, uh, like the Pearsaw

1391
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: and the dunes when I'm comparing them to the other

1392
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: guys in this range, but their prices are I just

1393
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: I just think they're taken for granted a year to

1394
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: break out, which is it's still common, but not as

1395
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: common as it was, let's say, ten years ago, because

1396
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: guys are getting more snabs in year one. So I

1397
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: do think you have to ding Pierce a little bit

1398
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: more for not looking nearly as good as Lad McConkey

1399
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: for the first ten games of their respective career. Again,

1400
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: you guys, yeah shot, God damn it. He was like

1401
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 1: he Ryan Robinson type career, just very mido.

1402
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: Well a completely different position, but yeah, again, he had

1403
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: an uphill battle. I commend him for even playing. So

1404
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: I he just he's a look, he's a fascinating projection.

1405
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: I still think he has a ton of upside. But

1406
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: I agree. I again, I'm not like projecting him, you know,

1407
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: lower than this. I just think there is a case

1408
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: for him to to potentially really outperform ADP if if

1409
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: all things line up, is all I'm getting at.

1410
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, I would agree with that. I mean,

1411
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: he he could be that Deebo Samuel Row. I think

1412
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: that's that is his similar type of player, and they

1413
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: initially drafted him to be in that road. Just yeah,

1414
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: crowded for me now, but we'll close it out. I'll

1415
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: mention a couple have you got any more names?

1416
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, again, Jordan Addison is not even being drafted at

1417
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver thirty six, so he would technically be in

1418
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: this discussion. Again, he's being drafted outside of the top forty.

1419
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,839
Speaker 2: So Jordan Addison is definitely a guy that he possesses

1420
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: that ceiling that we want in this range where we're

1421
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: not expecting to start any of these guys in weeks

1422
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, one or four anyway, So the fact that

1423
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison. We know he's missing the first three weeks.

1424
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: I don't care. I like him more in this range

1425
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: because his ADP's dropping. So Jordan Adison, we already talked

1426
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: about him, but when he falls outside of the top forty,

1427
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: I think he fits the bill of the type of

1428
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: wide receivers that we do want to be stacking our

1429
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: bench to begin the season.

1430
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe if you go back over the last

1431
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: ten years, and I think you've kind of alluded to

1432
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: this too, but when you compare actual finish to ADP

1433
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, it's that thirty to fifty range where

1434
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: you see positive like you see wide receivers on average

1435
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: as a collective in that range beating their ADP over

1436
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: the long term. Whereas you know in the top thirty,

1437
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot more volatility and you're gonna

1438
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: come out with a negative overall because you're gonna get

1439
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have busted. You know, the guys at the

1440
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: top aren't gonna be able to climbs as higher, so

1441
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna have lower floors, which is why we're trying

1442
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: to you know, prioritize that. So, yeah, this is a

1443
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: key range in in redrafts, So I'll kind of go through.

1444
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: I'll just name the names and you can tell you

1445
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: can tell me who you wanna talk about in depth,

1446
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: and then we'll get out of here. But so Matthew Golden,

1447
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: he's right on that cusp. I think he's just ascending

1448
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: quickly to what looks like likely the number one receiver

1449
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: role in Green Bay. Got a bond for love obviously.

1450
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: Khalilshak Here, I think he's going to be he can,

1451
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: he can be haded to dip. Sounds like he's gonna

1452
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: be ready for week one, and and because of the

1453
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: type of receiver he is, he's actually a better I

1454
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,959
Speaker 1: think he's a better redraft guy because he'll be consistent

1455
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: as a he's catching five balls week in week out.

1456
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: Then a Mecca a Buca talked about him going down

1457
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,839
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I know you like Jaden Higgins.

1458
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: He's like a deeper in traditional redraft, a little bit

1459
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: of a deeper sleep, but has some likely to be

1460
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: the number two target in Houston at some point. I

1461
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: think Christian Kirk, we kind of know what he is,

1462
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: so I think he's exciting. And Diami Brown and too

1463
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: too elo are the guys if you're talking a little

1464
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: bit more best Ball or guys that I just think

1465
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: will shoot up, and one more Wandale Robinson not sexy

1466
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: at all. But there's the movie Neighbors, and then you

1467
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 1: have guys like Slayton, who's mostly a low percentage route runner.

1468
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: The tight ends are lower percentage, you know, target guys,

1469
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: and I mean Tyrone Tracy can't catch everything they don't,

1470
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, So there's there's an opening for the wide

1471
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: receiver two on the Giants, even if it's a guy

1472
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: like Wandale who's you know, getting a lot of those

1473
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: shorter targets. Remember they like to use them as a

1474
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: gadget guy. I mean, Wama Robinson could be Xavier worthy

1475
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: statistically this year, just like with movie Neighbors doing normal

1476
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: movie neighbors things. So I think that's that's what especially

1477
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: if you know the quarterback situation isn't proved. So yeah,

1478
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 1: those are those are the guys? Any any one of

1479
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: those stand out?

1480
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we're about to talk all about rookies,

1481
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 2: so maybe we'll expand on them in our draft. I

1482
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: don't want to give too much way. I definitely want

1483
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: to beat you in the draft again this year. So

1484
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: but those three rookie wide receivers, I think you get

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01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 2: the nail on the head Matthew Golden and Meca Buca

1486
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: and Jayden Higgins because it was this time last year

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: you could get Brian Thomas Junior and Lad McConkie in

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01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: this range. I think this is the best range to

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: get these rookie wide receivers. I don't think we're gonna

1490
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: get another like Lat mcconky Brian Thomas Junior combo again necessarily,

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01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: but they just have so much upside for all different reasons.

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01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: And you know, Abukah is really coming on, especially with

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01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 2: Chris Godnan looking uncertain for week one, that's just gonna

1494
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: make his stock go up. You know, Jayden Higgins I

1495
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: think has a ton of upside and you can get him.

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: What is he like wide receiver fifty now, so love him.

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, the Packers wide receiver room, my god, it

1498
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: just keeps getting thinner. I saw that Dobbs had some

1499
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: sort of back injury. Hope he's okay, but like if

1500
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: he's not, like Matthew Golden's gonna have a season. So yeah,

1501
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: I think this range especially is like perfect for those

1502
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: high upside rookies that you mentioned, and one other guy.

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01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: Should I should mentioned before I get out of here,

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01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: just because we love him. Ray Ray McCloud is still

1505
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: he still goes too eight even though he's you know,

1506
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: he's not a sexy pick. But even with Mooney not

1507
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: missing time, I have Ray Ray McLoud uh being underdrafted

1508
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: by like thirty slots like he should be. He should

1509
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: be like like low sixties. You know, so if you're

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01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: in you know, like, if you're in league that you're

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna need uh like six seven receivers or bestball.

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01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: Seriously, I'm in a league that where you have to

1513
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:24,799
Speaker 2: start five to seven receivers. Yeah, he is absolutely fantastic

1514
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: playing that time because this is.

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: The just like we talked about, you know, there's gonna

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01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: be a lot of movement in that wide receiver thirty

1517
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: to fifty range, which people are most concerned about, but

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01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: there's also gonna be just this is the time of

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01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: year where the inefficiencies are gonna correct, are gonna start correcting.

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: So this is the last time you can get like,

1521
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: you know, you can get it too too out. Well,

1522
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: he goes outside the top one hundred in some weaks.

1523
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: I can see his ADP and the in the in

1524
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: the fifties. Once people realize you know, what's going on

1525
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: and who who's hurt at the other spots, and you know,

1526
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: everything kind of sorts itself out. So yeah, this is

1527
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: especially in Bastball, but even in certain redraft week because

1528
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: I know they're getting deeper with the super Flex and everything.

1529
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: You got to keep them, keep these guys in mind,

1530
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: these these like fringe top sixty top sixty guys. I

1531
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: think we turn a lout of value. So yeah, Ray

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01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: Ray Diami to too. Guys like that, I think they

1533
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: I think they belong on that fringe right, kind of

1534
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: like a Mims got there last year. So man, all right,

1535
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,040
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1538
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: do our Rookie Wide Receiver episode, which always fun. We

1539
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Speaker 1: go back and forth and we draft an entire team

1540
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: just of rookie receivers. So I think we'll do twelve rounds.

1541
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,320
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1542
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