WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Eclipsing With Cowboys 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:04.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:09.520 Cowboys. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:16.560 This is Nick Shots screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.880 and the official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:29.240 Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.760 How do you see out of these darn things? 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:33.400 Man? 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.360 It's two hours and forty minutes away from the path 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.360 of totality descending upon the star in Frisco. And this 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:50.600 is mix Shots. Your solar eclipse pregame show has begun. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.720 When when can we take these glasses off to the 0:00:54.760 --> 0:01:01.520 next break the whole segment sooner? You jest Ahumler and 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:09.040 Mickey Spagnola. Who's the one that told us see anything? 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:09.600 What do you mean? 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.480 This was Savannah's idea? 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.000 I like it. I like it. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.679 Mickey brought his own special pair sy. I was like, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.280 let's just get the cheap ones and Mickey comes in 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:19.800 hot with this camathon. 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:21.720 Care you see anything? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.440 I can't see a thing everything. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.039 Can you want to do that? I can tell what 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.000 you're doing? Savannah? 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:31.000 Can you see out of yours? 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:35.800 Do you have? Okay? I think it's time, Good. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.360 Time it's a good thing, a good job, because for 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.759 us to do our jobs, we need to see, right, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.120 don't want to burn our eyes. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.040 My I just need a five year old grandson. My 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.720 five year old grandson. My daughter sent me a picture. Uh, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.160 he went to school today. He's so excited about the eclipse. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.840 He hasn't taken his eclipse glasses off all. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:05.120 Night, so he's been running into everyone. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.960 So here we are, and it's I saw the sun 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.400 starting to break through the clouds out there. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.000 That's good. As I walked in, that's good. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.880 You know, it's funny because when this morning, when I 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.040 got up about seven point fifteen, and there was just 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:27.919 blue sky with some stray clouds that you could see through. Right. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.680 The closer I got here, the worse it got. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:31.920 Uh. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.880 And it's like, well if I have to drive home, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.960 but I see it starting to break up a little bit. Okay, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.440 So you're so we got a chance. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.360 You're looking to be in the perfect position to see 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.640 the Yeah, totally clips. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.600 Well you know what, if we go across the street 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.440 in that field, we'll see more than buildings. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.760 Salary, you have you figured out where the sun is 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.160 exactly going to be in the sky straight up for 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.840 this afternoon and here, as a matter of. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.760 I've got a neighbor that has a telescope and he's 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.799 rigged his telescope to protect it so he can take 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:11.000 pictures right And I think we were talking about twelve 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.080 thirty quarter to one, and I go, well, where's the 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.720 sun going to be? And he goes, right where it's 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:17.560 at right now. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.760 So how many people outside the path of totality realize 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.239 that the solar eclipse is even happening today? 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.280 Oh, I think the whole country knows. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:28.720 Yeah, you can't get around. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.680 I didn't even want to come here to work today. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.040 I don't mind telling you guys that. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.120 Ever since texted us the other day said are we 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:35.880 having a show? 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.360 Because I thought there was going to be like, you know, 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.480 we're going to be inundated with people, and you know 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.920 that means we're going to have to get here much 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.360 earlier and then trying to get out it was going 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:47.360 to be a pain in the butt. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.480 But thank god, it's not like that. I thought, for 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.160 sure people are going to be coming up here, which. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.680 Everything was ready to sell tickets. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.440 No great idea, by the way, because of course we 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.960 at the start, I told everybody I said, only build 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.320 Jones are thinking this crap and. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:05.760 To go look at the eclipse. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.000 Everyone needs to come to the start was a great 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:09.680 selling point. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.720 It would have been. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.200 Did you notice outside already on the football field? 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.440 Yeah, but I thought it would be much more. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.080 I really thought the football field. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:24.000 Well, there's speakers and loud speakers. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.640 And oh I did not notice that. I noticed football 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.000 players on the football. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:34.599 I think Savannah can give us talking a little watch 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:35.440 party out here. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:36.200 You are. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.040 What are the speakers for? Is it going to speak 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:39.320 to us? 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.919 Students talk they're listening for. 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.840 Maybe it's someone's up there on everybody. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.160 Thought there's going to be the voice of God. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.120 Right something. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.160 No, Jerry's not talking to them. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.200 Actually, Gordon on the Ticket had. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:00.400 A had a good idea. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.880 He wanted to go down to Daley Plaza and stand 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:10.800 on the X when the clips happens, where Kennedy. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.360 Got oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's not funny. 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:14.920 No, I know. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.880 I gotta tell you a quick, quick Gordon story. I 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.479 used to be on the show with him. Uh first, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.360 he was really young and we were interviewing Timerlasorda and 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.120 sorta was talking about giving up a snuff because all 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.400 the kids, the guys started getting canceled them out, and 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.520 so you know he was on this rant. Uh timerless 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.200 Order was he was serious about it. Look, I gave 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.760 it up and these guys, you know when I get 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:43.800 these guys to give it up too. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.640 And so we made a film. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.880 About it, and uh so in the background Gordon goes wow, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.200 timless Order doing snuff films. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.039 Losorda did not think that was funny at all, and 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:02.480 he got really pissed off in the interview. Standed soon after. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:08.680 That it wasn't lot was lot, it was lots we've seen. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.000 Yes, he was. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.279 He was ranting for a good thing and he was 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.960 on the road and said that it just took all 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.560 of the air out of his interview. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.919 I'm sure. I'm sure the Tommy Losorda interview with the 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.120 media or whatever where he goes on a RNT. It's 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.640 probably find a bull on YouTube somewhere if you want 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:31.440 to look it up. But all right, so we got 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.200 football to talk about to we do. Okay, So what 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.520 are we thinking as we embark on this eclipse Monday? 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.520 And we are now less than three weeks away from 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.440 Draft Day and there's so much that has happened here 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.480 in the last week where the Cowboys made a big 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.960 move signing Tuma. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:58.039 I'd like to say, don't break the head sut I'd 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.640 like to say for those just listening, got up to 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:01.279 walk out. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:01.640 Of the room. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.159 I was the first to break the news to Micky 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.040 sitting at the lunch table. I said, Hey, Mickey, did 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:12.520 you hear Tchuma Doga staying in Dallas? And he was like, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:17.760 what what. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.400 Was it last week or the week before? Mickey? 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.560 Last week he made a comment about his lack of 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.160 mobility from from. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.720 Well, here's here's the good part about it. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:30.400 What did you say last week? 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.400 I said, I was walk out the building. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.840 If they know he said that it was like being 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.440 he was like a traffic cone. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.280 I said, now that's what the Savannah said. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.440 It, Si, Savannah didn't know you were so harsh. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:48.080 That harsh. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.400 I can't wait to have Tuma, as he guessed. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:50.880 The ship. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.400 Say we bring him on. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.080 Basically, not Tony. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:04.680 It's insures, right because he signed the veteran exception, so 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.800 he only counts one point zero nine million against the cat. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.080 Well, he was signed for insurance last year too. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.040 And he got starts. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.440 But he's got to make the team, right, and he 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:16.760 had to. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.400 Make the team last year, and he did and. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.360 And if he doesn't, it cost him one hundred and 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:22.720 fifty two thousand dollars. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.360 Mickey touch on why Tuma was not kind of on 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.400 your radar to stick right? What were some of the 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:32.760 things that. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.640 I was thinking that they could be somebody better than 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.480 him out there for insurance, But they probably couldn't get 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:46.720 it any cheaper than they got him. So I think 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:51.520 he's insurance against maybe one of these young guys not 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.160 stepping up to be a back worthy of it. I mean, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.880 they need guys to step up to be starters, right, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.160 and then they need guys to step up and be back. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.520 They're in this gray area right now where they aren't 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.600 sure what their inventory is going to be on the 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:13.360 offensive line, because not until the draft happens. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:13.640 Will we know. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.320 Will they know exactly what they have. And I assume 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.240 what may have happened in this case, they would have 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.360 waited until after the draft on signing an Adoga or whoever. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.959 Maybe Chuma had an offer from another team and they 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.319 just want to cover themselves, and maybe his agent came 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:34.840 to them and say, hey, we got this offer in 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.520 Atlanta or wherever. What do y'all think? And they may 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.040 have said, we'll go ahead and been in a veteran 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.800 minimum is what he was going to be, so just 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.360 to make sure they have a veteran guy here, not 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.280 knowing what's going to happen going forward, sort. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.760 Of what happened on the same level. Would Trent Sigg 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.600 when they signed their deep snapper. He had interests from 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.400 other teams and they were like, oh no, we can't 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.960 lose him since he was so good last year. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:08.320 But we were putting Tuma in that category as as 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:13.200 what someone that we need for they need, they. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.880 Need a back It's a depth thing. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.680 It's just against say Matt will, let's go. Can't step 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.559 up to be good enough to be the backup. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:23.840 That's a tough one. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:29.400 See, I was thinking, well, what about Leo Collins? And 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.280 then Buffalo's sign for as much as six million dollars? 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:34.560 Is that what it was one year? 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:39.480 Six point two million dollars. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.040 Up to so well, and maybe maybe the Cowboys they 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:47.120 had every intent to sign a veteran backup tackle whatever, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.600 and maybe they were talking to Collins, and then when 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:54.120 Collins went for bigger money than to Buffalo, they said, well, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.640 we got to get somebody. Let's yeah, let's get Tuma. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.640 I mean, one of the big things is there's still 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.720 there are still veteran tackles out there who can start 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.800 on the free agent market who are probably waiting until 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.800 after the draft, and teams are waiting until after the 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.600 draft to see. And so the big thing from a 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:20.320 Cowboys perspective, I think is that when you get to 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:25.520 twenty four, don't take a tackle just because you have 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.760 to take a tackle if he's not the one that 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.520 you like, if it's the fifth tackle on your board 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.040 or whatever, because you can, you think, again, get the 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.319 best defensive tackle or whatever it might be another position 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.360 of need, and you can go sign Donovan Smith for 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.400 three million dollars who started for the Chiefs last year 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.160 at that much. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:49.680 And what Bill's saying, and if you these mock drafts, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:55.040 there's a reason they call him mocks right. Very well, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.160 by time they get to twenty four, and I've seen it, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.880 the Cowboys are taking the sixth tackle in the first round. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.640 I want the sixth best one in. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.880 The first round. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:14.800 The I think most obvious inexpensive solution is Tyler Smith 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:19.280 goes to left tackle, TJ. Bass plays guard, and you've 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.120 got to find center, and where we at now and 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.360 you might be able to find us the second best center. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.760 You sound like you sound like the Cowboys are thinking 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.200 another alternative route. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.600 Well, Mike McCarthy said at the owners meeting that at 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.920 this point, Tyler Smith's a guard. I want him to 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:39.640 be the tackle. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.400 Okay, let me throw something out, but that 't ask 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.079 me that, which could be a scenario the Cowboys are 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.880 looking at late in the first round. There's a tackle 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.640 from Georgia named Amarius Mimes who started only eight games 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.959 in his college career. But this guy is six ' 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.680 eight three and forty pounds. He moves well, it's not 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.360 a sloppy three hundred forty pounds. I mean, he is 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.360 put together. But he's started eight games at right tackle, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.719 so he's more of a developmental type. However, he might 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.880 be able to come in and play right away. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.400 Can he play guard and or I don't know, Remember 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.600 Tyler Smith was at six eight. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.120 At six ' eight, it's a little harder to play guard, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:21.800 that's true. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.240 So that's Josh Ball. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:28.439 Yeah so, but anyway, but this guy could be better 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.400 than all the tackles out there. I don't know what 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.959 the Cowboys feel about him, but it they take a 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.160 little bit of time just to make sure there's there's 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.160 an unknown there as far as for being for sure, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.200 whether because he hasn't had the experience of other guys, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.520 but you you might be able to take him. You 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.360 still have in your hip pocket, your scenario and you 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:54.160 you bring him along however he comes along. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.120 So how was he rated in this draft? 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.920 He's rated as one of those guys. I mean it's 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:06.240 a deep draft for offensive tackles. Yeah, and he's in 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.280 the mix in that group. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.960 Getting the sixth best, getting the sixth best, would that 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:13.720 be so bad? 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:14.439 Well, it's so. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.880 Deep, but when one of the other issues on it 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.040 is he doesn't have a lot of experience and he's 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.280 only played right tackle. And you've heard Mike McCarthy and 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.080 I haven't heard Solario so much, but McCarthy's talked about, well, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.840 you can you know, you keep a guy on the 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.800 right side or the he's either a right side or 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:31.320 the left side. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:32.960 Yeah, yeah, that's so. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.600 Anyway, you know the fact if he had been at 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.080 left tackle, it would be easier to pull the trick 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.120 if you were want him to be the left tackle, whatever. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.520 How many first round picks do you need on the 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:47.560 offensive line. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:50.960 You don't have to have all of them have to be. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.200 Well, you're getting close to it. If you take another 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.920 one in the first round, now you would have what to. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.640 It depends on the culture is you want to create? 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.360 Have three right, yeah, but it depends on the culture 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.040 you want to create. That's like saying in Washington they 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.320 had four first rounders on the defensive line. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.359 In Atlanta right now, I think they've got four first rounders. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.760 Well, they often just suck's. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.280 Well in the Cowboys, I mean the last decade, they 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:24.120 had three first rounders when they drafted Tyron Smith twelve 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:28.640 years ago. Then then eleven years ago they drafted Travis Frederick, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.000 and ten years ago Zach Martin. So you went for 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.320 a good stretch of the last decade with three first 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.240 rounders on them. That was and then Collins, Lyle Collins 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.120 was projected to it would have been a first rounder 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.480 if he didn't have the issues coming out and they 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:44.840 signed him as a college. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.800 Free agent and how that will help you on defense. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.760 And that and that didn't win you two playoff games 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.800 in a given year, right, So. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.520 So at some point you got to spread out. You know, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.560 your money can't be all on the offensive line. Can 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.200 you develop somebody, can you you know, give it an 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.480 opportunity to see what t J. Bass can do at guard. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.760 But these are the decisions they've got to make. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.680 It seems as if if they're still going this route 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.200 to look at offensive linemen spags, they're just not happy 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.560 with what they see. They're not comfortable with what they say. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.760 Well, they have not said that, Yeah, we don't know 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.720 what they're doing. What they got there because they see, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.520 Oh they don't have Leo Collins and they got to 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:34.160 have a tackle. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.840 That's that's just they they got to. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.440 The Yeah, I am with that because we do need that. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.320 And you also need a linebacker, and you also need 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:49.360 a defensive tackle, and you probably need And so when 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.920 I get to that spot, what's the best who's the best? 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.600 Can I have the third best defensive end or the 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.120 sixth best tackle? Uh oh, I also need a running 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:00.120 back this. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.720 Week, and I am all about defense. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.680 If we're going to pick anything, and we're gonna hang 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:06.600 our hat on something. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.080 Once again, you can have the worst offense in the world. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.119 You can still go deep into the playoffs with a 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.360 solid defense still, and I know this is way back 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.960 in the day. I'm still looking at the Ravens on 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.560 how they want a dog on championship with that defense 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.040 and one of the worst quarterbacks I've ever seen play 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.159 in the NFL, not just in the Super Bowl. And 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.520 this guy now, he's got camps out there. He's coaching 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.920 kids how to be bad quarterbacks as well. So come on, man, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.080 But he's making his money. He's doing this thing because 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:41.159 of a great defense. So to me, you've got to 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.720 have that defense. And we found that out in the playoffs. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.440 You cannot have a defense depending on your offense. You 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.400 just can't. It don't work because in the playoffs things 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.320 are different. The defense is going to be better. The 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.040 Packers played us better because our defense is waiting on 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520 our offense to get the game going. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.840 We need to have I love having our offense score points. 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.159 But we need to be in a culture here to 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.520 where we can play defense and we can run the 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.879 ball on anyone. I don't care how good our quarterback is, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.160 I don't care how much CD Lamb gets off. That's 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.920 the formula that you're gonna have to win to win by. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.359 We've always approached it offensively. First, we need to go 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:26.639 from the defense first. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.320 Tell me the defensive tackles on this team right now? 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.680 U C L A O c OC. Yeah, and we. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.960 Had improven You like they can play? 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.640 Yeah, well all of them have shown that they can play, 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.119 but they're just not consistent. Oh sir, but they're just 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.160 I need more than one defense. You do, yes, you do? 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.720 So the next one, and you need a linebacker would 0:18:53.760 --> 0:19:00.560 be Mazie. We don't know Chauncey Golston, he's a defense end. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.719 They kind of moved inside. And then what that's it? Okay, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.919 there ain't no Jonathan Hankins anymore. There's no Neville Gallimore anymore. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.840 So what if I get to that point and there's 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:18.119 still a defensive tackle? As Bill looked at over the weekend. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.040 He seems like he's looking over now. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.840 Well, no, I've got he know. We'll wait for the 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.720 next segment to talk about the guy I want to 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:26.200 talk about. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.040 Would you start with the defensive tackle linebacker? Excuse me 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.720 for or do you go where else? On defense? 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.840 Line back? I would start linebacker, you would start. I 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:38.800 would start linebacker. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.560 Even though we just signed a linebacker, I would still 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.639 look for someone another linebacker in the draft. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.760 So I think a lot of that depends on what 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.840 are they going to do with Michael Parsons. Is he 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.159 a linebacker? But then I need a defensive end. Is 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.040 he a defensive end? Then I need a linebacker. And 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:02.920 by the way, watching Mara overshown workout out there, he's 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:07.240 moving really well, he's already got your linebacker. Well, I 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:12.200 mean he's he's he's one, right, and and is he 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.399 just a change up linebacker or is he he's starting? 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.160 Like, give me what's his what's his physique? 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.280 What is he six? What? What is he? Well? 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.639 I would get the official stats for you moment, please 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.840 if I can get my iPad, my brand new. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.639 I I'm looking at it's going to be wow before 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.840 he gets that, yeah, right, because he doesn't even know 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.280 to connect his cell phone. 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.800 So I got it, I got the hotspot going go ahead, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.160 make you what you were you going to say? 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:42.680 I was. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:49.080 Six three two twenty five. There we go. 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:49.800 That's small. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.680 Yeah, And and he probably put on a little bit 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.760 of strength and weight working out. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.120 Did they want did they draft him? Did they sign 0:20:59.200 --> 0:20:59.600 him to be. 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.000 A high He was going to be a hybrid linebacker. 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:03.840 He was like some details. 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.600 I'm tired the hybrid lineback down. I'm tired of high 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:07.560 third down. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.720