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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: How do you see out of these darn things?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: It's two hours and forty minutes away from the path
Speaker 3: of totality descending upon the star in Frisco. And this
Speaker 3: is mix Shots. Your solar eclipse pregame show has begun.
Speaker 3: When when can we take these glasses off to the
Speaker 3: next break the whole segment sooner? You jest Ahumler and
Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola. Who's the one that told us see anything?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: This was Savannah's idea?
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5: Mickey brought his own special pair sy. I was like,
Speaker 5: let's just get the cheap ones and Mickey comes in
Speaker 5: hot with this camathon.
Speaker 3: Care you see anything?
Speaker 4: I can't see a thing everything.
Speaker 2: Can you want to do that? I can tell what
Speaker 2: you're doing? Savannah?
Speaker 3: Can you see out of yours?
Speaker 2: Do you have? Okay? I think it's time, Good.
Speaker 4: Time it's a good thing, a good job, because for
Speaker 4: us to do our jobs, we need to see, right,
Speaker 4: don't want to burn our eyes.
Speaker 3: My I just need a five year old grandson. My
Speaker 3: five year old grandson. My daughter sent me a picture. Uh,
Speaker 3: he went to school today. He's so excited about the eclipse.
Speaker 3: He hasn't taken his eclipse glasses off all.
Speaker 2: Night, so he's been running into everyone.
Speaker 3: So here we are, and it's I saw the sun
Speaker 3: starting to break through the clouds out there.
Speaker 2: That's good. As I walked in, that's good.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because when this morning, when I
Speaker 4: got up about seven point fifteen, and there was just
Speaker 4: blue sky with some stray clouds that you could see through. Right.
Speaker 4: The closer I got here, the worse it got.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: And it's like, well if I have to drive home,
Speaker 4: but I see it starting to break up a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 4: So you're so we got a chance.
Speaker 3: You're looking to be in the perfect position to see
Speaker 3: the Yeah, totally clips.
Speaker 4: Well you know what, if we go across the street
Speaker 4: in that field, we'll see more than buildings.
Speaker 3: Salary, you have you figured out where the sun is
Speaker 3: exactly going to be in the sky straight up for
Speaker 3: this afternoon and here, as a matter of.
Speaker 4: I've got a neighbor that has a telescope and he's
Speaker 4: rigged his telescope to protect it so he can take
Speaker 4: pictures right And I think we were talking about twelve
Speaker 4: thirty quarter to one, and I go, well, where's the
Speaker 4: sun going to be? And he goes, right where it's
Speaker 4: at right now.
Speaker 3: So how many people outside the path of totality realize
Speaker 3: that the solar eclipse is even happening today?
Speaker 4: Oh, I think the whole country knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get around.
Speaker 7: I didn't even want to come here to work today.
Speaker 7: I don't mind telling you guys that.
Speaker 3: Ever since texted us the other day said are we
Speaker 3: having a show?
Speaker 7: Because I thought there was going to be like, you know,
Speaker 7: we're going to be inundated with people, and you know
Speaker 7: that means we're going to have to get here much
Speaker 7: earlier and then trying to get out it was going
Speaker 7: to be a pain in the butt.
Speaker 2: But thank god, it's not like that. I thought, for
Speaker 2: sure people are going to be coming up here, which.
Speaker 3: Everything was ready to sell tickets.
Speaker 7: No great idea, by the way, because of course we
Speaker 7: at the start, I told everybody I said, only build
Speaker 7: Jones are thinking this crap and.
Speaker 2: To go look at the eclipse.
Speaker 7: Everyone needs to come to the start was a great
Speaker 7: selling point.
Speaker 3: It would have been.
Speaker 4: Did you notice outside already on the football field?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought it would be much more.
Speaker 3: I really thought the football field.
Speaker 4: Well, there's speakers and loud speakers.
Speaker 3: And oh I did not notice that. I noticed football
Speaker 3: players on the football.
Speaker 4: I think Savannah can give us talking a little watch
Speaker 4: party out here.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 3: What are the speakers for? Is it going to speak
Speaker 3: to us?
Speaker 2: Students talk they're listening for.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's someone's up there on everybody.
Speaker 3: Thought there's going to be the voice of God.
Speaker 2: Right something.
Speaker 7: No, Jerry's not talking to them.
Speaker 4: Actually, Gordon on the Ticket had.
Speaker 2: A had a good idea.
Speaker 4: He wanted to go down to Daley Plaza and stand
Speaker 4: on the X when the clips happens, where Kennedy.
Speaker 2: Got oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's not funny.
Speaker 4: No, I know.
Speaker 7: I gotta tell you a quick, quick Gordon story. I
Speaker 7: used to be on the show with him. Uh first,
Speaker 7: he was really young and we were interviewing Timerlasorda and
Speaker 7: sorta was talking about giving up a snuff because all
Speaker 7: the kids, the guys started getting canceled them out, and
Speaker 7: so you know he was on this rant. Uh timerless
Speaker 7: Order was he was serious about it. Look, I gave
Speaker 7: it up and these guys, you know when I get
Speaker 7: these guys to give it up too.
Speaker 2: And so we made a film.
Speaker 7: About it, and uh so in the background Gordon goes wow,
Speaker 7: timless Order doing snuff films.
Speaker 2: Losorda did not think that was funny at all, and
Speaker 2: he got really pissed off in the interview. Standed soon after.
Speaker 4: That it wasn't lot was lot, it was lots we've seen.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was.
Speaker 7: He was ranting for a good thing and he was
Speaker 7: on the road and said that it just took all
Speaker 7: of the air out of his interview.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure the Tommy Losorda interview with the
Speaker 3: media or whatever where he goes on a RNT. It's
Speaker 3: probably find a bull on YouTube somewhere if you want
Speaker 3: to look it up. But all right, so we got
Speaker 3: football to talk about to we do. Okay, So what
Speaker 3: are we thinking as we embark on this eclipse Monday?
Speaker 3: And we are now less than three weeks away from
Speaker 3: Draft Day and there's so much that has happened here
Speaker 3: in the last week where the Cowboys made a big
Speaker 3: move signing Tuma.
Speaker 5: I'd like to say, don't break the head sut I'd
Speaker 5: like to say for those just listening, got up to
Speaker 5: walk out.
Speaker 3: Of the room.
Speaker 5: I was the first to break the news to Micky
Speaker 5: sitting at the lunch table. I said, Hey, Mickey, did
Speaker 5: you hear Tchuma Doga staying in Dallas? And he was like,
Speaker 5: what what.
Speaker 3: Was it last week or the week before? Mickey?
Speaker 7: Last week he made a comment about his lack of
Speaker 7: mobility from from.
Speaker 4: Well, here's here's the good part about it.
Speaker 3: What did you say last week?
Speaker 4: I said, I was walk out the building.
Speaker 7: If they know he said that it was like being
Speaker 7: he was like a traffic cone.
Speaker 4: I said, now that's what the Savannah said.
Speaker 7: It, Si, Savannah didn't know you were so harsh.
Speaker 2: That harsh.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to have Tuma, as he guessed.
Speaker 2: The ship.
Speaker 3: Say we bring him on.
Speaker 2: Basically, not Tony.
Speaker 4: It's insures, right because he signed the veteran exception, so
Speaker 4: he only counts one point zero nine million against the cat.
Speaker 3: Well, he was signed for insurance last year too.
Speaker 2: And he got starts.
Speaker 4: But he's got to make the team, right, and he
Speaker 4: had to.
Speaker 3: Make the team last year, and he did and.
Speaker 4: And if he doesn't, it cost him one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Mickey touch on why Tuma was not kind of on
Speaker 5: your radar to stick right? What were some of the
Speaker 5: things that.
Speaker 4: I was thinking that they could be somebody better than
Speaker 4: him out there for insurance, But they probably couldn't get
Speaker 4: it any cheaper than they got him. So I think
Speaker 4: he's insurance against maybe one of these young guys not
Speaker 4: stepping up to be a back worthy of it. I mean,
Speaker 4: they need guys to step up to be starters, right,
Speaker 4: and then they need guys to step up and be back.
Speaker 3: They're in this gray area right now where they aren't
Speaker 3: sure what their inventory is going to be on the
Speaker 3: offensive line, because not until the draft happens.
Speaker 2: Will we know.
Speaker 3: Will they know exactly what they have. And I assume
Speaker 3: what may have happened in this case, they would have
Speaker 3: waited until after the draft on signing an Adoga or whoever.
Speaker 3: Maybe Chuma had an offer from another team and they
Speaker 3: just want to cover themselves, and maybe his agent came
Speaker 3: to them and say, hey, we got this offer in
Speaker 3: Atlanta or wherever. What do y'all think? And they may
Speaker 3: have said, we'll go ahead and been in a veteran
Speaker 3: minimum is what he was going to be, so just
Speaker 3: to make sure they have a veteran guy here, not
Speaker 3: knowing what's going to happen going forward, sort.
Speaker 4: Of what happened on the same level. Would Trent Sigg
Speaker 4: when they signed their deep snapper. He had interests from
Speaker 4: other teams and they were like, oh no, we can't
Speaker 4: lose him since he was so good last year.
Speaker 7: But we were putting Tuma in that category as as
Speaker 7: what someone that we need for they need, they.
Speaker 2: Need a back It's a depth thing.
Speaker 4: It's just against say Matt will, let's go. Can't step
Speaker 4: up to be good enough to be the backup.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one.
Speaker 4: See, I was thinking, well, what about Leo Collins? And
Speaker 4: then Buffalo's sign for as much as six million dollars?
Speaker 2: Is that what it was one year?
Speaker 4: Six point two million dollars.
Speaker 3: Up to so well, and maybe maybe the Cowboys they
Speaker 3: had every intent to sign a veteran backup tackle whatever,
Speaker 3: and maybe they were talking to Collins, and then when
Speaker 3: Collins went for bigger money than to Buffalo, they said, well,
Speaker 3: we got to get somebody. Let's yeah, let's get Tuma.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the big things is there's still
Speaker 3: there are still veteran tackles out there who can start
Speaker 3: on the free agent market who are probably waiting until
Speaker 3: after the draft, and teams are waiting until after the
Speaker 3: draft to see. And so the big thing from a
Speaker 3: Cowboys perspective, I think is that when you get to
Speaker 3: twenty four, don't take a tackle just because you have
Speaker 3: to take a tackle if he's not the one that
Speaker 3: you like, if it's the fifth tackle on your board
Speaker 3: or whatever, because you can, you think, again, get the
Speaker 3: best defensive tackle or whatever it might be another position
Speaker 3: of need, and you can go sign Donovan Smith for
Speaker 3: three million dollars who started for the Chiefs last year
Speaker 3: at that much.
Speaker 4: And what Bill's saying, and if you these mock drafts,
Speaker 4: there's a reason they call him mocks right. Very well,
Speaker 4: by time they get to twenty four, and I've seen it,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys are taking the sixth tackle in the first round.
Speaker 4: I want the sixth best one in.
Speaker 3: The first round.
Speaker 4: The I think most obvious inexpensive solution is Tyler Smith
Speaker 4: goes to left tackle, TJ. Bass plays guard, and you've
Speaker 4: got to find center, and where we at now and
Speaker 4: you might be able to find us the second best center.
Speaker 7: You sound like you sound like the Cowboys are thinking
Speaker 7: another alternative route.
Speaker 4: Well, Mike McCarthy said at the owners meeting that at
Speaker 4: this point, Tyler Smith's a guard. I want him to
Speaker 4: be the tackle.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me throw something out, but that 't ask
Speaker 3: me that, which could be a scenario the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: looking at late in the first round. There's a tackle
Speaker 3: from Georgia named Amarius Mimes who started only eight games
Speaker 3: in his college career. But this guy is six '
Speaker 3: eight three and forty pounds. He moves well, it's not
Speaker 3: a sloppy three hundred forty pounds. I mean, he is
Speaker 3: put together. But he's started eight games at right tackle,
Speaker 3: so he's more of a developmental type. However, he might
Speaker 3: be able to come in and play right away.
Speaker 4: Can he play guard and or I don't know, Remember
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith was at six eight.
Speaker 3: At six ' eight, it's a little harder to play guard,
Speaker 3: that's true.
Speaker 4: So that's Josh Ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah so, but anyway, but this guy could be better
Speaker 3: than all the tackles out there. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the Cowboys feel about him, but it they take a
Speaker 3: little bit of time just to make sure there's there's
Speaker 3: an unknown there as far as for being for sure,
Speaker 3: whether because he hasn't had the experience of other guys,
Speaker 3: but you you might be able to take him. You
Speaker 3: still have in your hip pocket, your scenario and you
Speaker 3: you bring him along however he comes along.
Speaker 2: So how was he rated in this draft?
Speaker 3: He's rated as one of those guys. I mean it's
Speaker 3: a deep draft for offensive tackles. Yeah, and he's in
Speaker 3: the mix in that group.
Speaker 7: Getting the sixth best, getting the sixth best, would that
Speaker 7: be so bad?
Speaker 2: Well, it's so.
Speaker 3: Deep, but when one of the other issues on it
Speaker 3: is he doesn't have a lot of experience and he's
Speaker 3: only played right tackle. And you've heard Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 3: I haven't heard Solario so much, but McCarthy's talked about, well,
Speaker 3: you can you know, you keep a guy on the
Speaker 3: right side or the he's either a right side or
Speaker 3: the left side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's so.
Speaker 3: Anyway, you know the fact if he had been at
Speaker 3: left tackle, it would be easier to pull the trick
Speaker 3: if you were want him to be the left tackle, whatever.
Speaker 4: How many first round picks do you need on the
Speaker 4: offensive line.
Speaker 2: You don't have to have all of them have to be.
Speaker 4: Well, you're getting close to it. If you take another
Speaker 4: one in the first round, now you would have what to.
Speaker 2: It depends on the culture is you want to create?
Speaker 7: Have three right, yeah, but it depends on the culture
Speaker 7: you want to create. That's like saying in Washington they
Speaker 7: had four first rounders on the defensive line.
Speaker 3: In Atlanta right now, I think they've got four first rounders.
Speaker 2: Well, they often just suck's.
Speaker 3: Well in the Cowboys, I mean the last decade, they
Speaker 3: had three first rounders when they drafted Tyron Smith twelve
Speaker 3: years ago. Then then eleven years ago they drafted Travis Frederick,
Speaker 3: and ten years ago Zach Martin. So you went for
Speaker 3: a good stretch of the last decade with three first
Speaker 3: rounders on them. That was and then Collins, Lyle Collins
Speaker 3: was projected to it would have been a first rounder
Speaker 3: if he didn't have the issues coming out and they
Speaker 3: signed him as a college.
Speaker 4: Free agent and how that will help you on defense.
Speaker 3: And that and that didn't win you two playoff games
Speaker 3: in a given year, right, So.
Speaker 4: So at some point you got to spread out. You know,
Speaker 4: your money can't be all on the offensive line. Can
Speaker 4: you develop somebody, can you you know, give it an
Speaker 4: opportunity to see what t J. Bass can do at guard.
Speaker 4: But these are the decisions they've got to make.
Speaker 7: It seems as if if they're still going this route
Speaker 7: to look at offensive linemen spags, they're just not happy
Speaker 7: with what they see. They're not comfortable with what they say.
Speaker 4: Well, they have not said that, Yeah, we don't know
Speaker 4: what they're doing. What they got there because they see,
Speaker 4: Oh they don't have Leo Collins and they got to
Speaker 4: have a tackle.
Speaker 3: That's that's just they they got to.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I am with that because we do need that.
Speaker 4: And you also need a linebacker, and you also need
Speaker 4: a defensive tackle, and you probably need And so when
Speaker 4: I get to that spot, what's the best who's the best?
Speaker 4: Can I have the third best defensive end or the
Speaker 4: sixth best tackle? Uh oh, I also need a running
Speaker 4: back this.
Speaker 2: Week, and I am all about defense.
Speaker 7: If we're going to pick anything, and we're gonna hang
Speaker 7: our hat on something.
Speaker 2: Once again, you can have the worst offense in the world.
Speaker 7: You can still go deep into the playoffs with a
Speaker 7: solid defense still, and I know this is way back
Speaker 7: in the day. I'm still looking at the Ravens on
Speaker 7: how they want a dog on championship with that defense
Speaker 7: and one of the worst quarterbacks I've ever seen play
Speaker 7: in the NFL, not just in the Super Bowl. And
Speaker 7: this guy now, he's got camps out there. He's coaching
Speaker 7: kids how to be bad quarterbacks as well. So come on, man,
Speaker 7: But he's making his money. He's doing this thing because
Speaker 7: of a great defense. So to me, you've got to
Speaker 7: have that defense. And we found that out in the playoffs.
Speaker 7: You cannot have a defense depending on your offense. You
Speaker 7: just can't. It don't work because in the playoffs things
Speaker 7: are different. The defense is going to be better. The
Speaker 7: Packers played us better because our defense is waiting on
Speaker 7: our offense to get the game going.
Speaker 2: We need to have I love having our offense score points.
Speaker 7: But we need to be in a culture here to
Speaker 7: where we can play defense and we can run the
Speaker 7: ball on anyone. I don't care how good our quarterback is,
Speaker 7: I don't care how much CD Lamb gets off. That's
Speaker 7: the formula that you're gonna have to win to win by.
Speaker 7: We've always approached it offensively. First, we need to go
Speaker 7: from the defense first.
Speaker 4: Tell me the defensive tackles on this team right now?
Speaker 2: U C L A O c OC. Yeah, and we.
Speaker 4: Had improven You like they can play?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well all of them have shown that they can play,
Speaker 7: but they're just not consistent. Oh sir, but they're just
Speaker 7: I need more than one defense. You do, yes, you do?
Speaker 4: So the next one, and you need a linebacker would
Speaker 4: be Mazie. We don't know Chauncey Golston, he's a defense end.
Speaker 4: They kind of moved inside. And then what that's it? Okay,
Speaker 4: there ain't no Jonathan Hankins anymore. There's no Neville Gallimore anymore.
Speaker 4: So what if I get to that point and there's
Speaker 4: still a defensive tackle? As Bill looked at over the weekend.
Speaker 2: He seems like he's looking over now.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I've got he know. We'll wait for the
Speaker 3: next segment to talk about the guy I want to
Speaker 3: talk about.
Speaker 5: Would you start with the defensive tackle linebacker? Excuse me
Speaker 5: for or do you go where else? On defense?
Speaker 2: Line back? I would start linebacker, you would start. I
Speaker 2: would start linebacker.
Speaker 7: Even though we just signed a linebacker, I would still
Speaker 7: look for someone another linebacker in the draft.
Speaker 4: So I think a lot of that depends on what
Speaker 4: are they going to do with Michael Parsons. Is he
Speaker 4: a linebacker? But then I need a defensive end. Is
Speaker 4: he a defensive end? Then I need a linebacker. And
Speaker 4: by the way, watching Mara overshown workout out there, he's
Speaker 4: moving really well, he's already got your linebacker. Well, I
Speaker 4: mean he's he's he's one, right, and and is he
Speaker 4: just a change up linebacker or is he he's starting?
Speaker 7: Like, give me what's his what's his physique?
Speaker 2: What is he six? What? What is he? Well?
Speaker 3: I would get the official stats for you moment, please
Speaker 3: if I can get my iPad, my brand new.
Speaker 6: I I'm looking at it's going to be wow before
Speaker 6: he gets that, yeah, right, because he doesn't even know
Speaker 6: to connect his cell phone.
Speaker 3: So I got it, I got the hotspot going go ahead,
Speaker 3: make you what you were you going to say?
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 4: Six three two twenty five. There we go.
Speaker 2: That's small.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and he probably put on a little bit
Speaker 4: of strength and weight working out.
Speaker 2: Did they want did they draft him? Did they sign
Speaker 2: him to be.
Speaker 4: A high He was going to be a hybrid linebacker.
Speaker 4: He was like some details.
Speaker 7: I'm tired the hybrid lineback down. I'm tired of high
Speaker 7: third down.
Speaker 3: Okay, four five six forty?
Speaker 2: What the heck is going on? Yeah?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 2: What that he?
Speaker 3: Where's the volume control?
Speaker 2: Racy?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 7: Either listen to listen to black music? Looks at that rap? Man,
Speaker 7: listen to that rap NFL dot com rap?
Speaker 3: So is this the volume control of my new.
Speaker 2: Now up and down? Well?
Speaker 3: I didn't up and down work.
Speaker 2: I was doing that.
Speaker 3: Volume up? Why is that the up? And that's that should.
Speaker 2: Be the up?
Speaker 3: Four five six forty for Debarbon, I'm looking at.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it like a linebacker.
Speaker 3: He came to Texas. He was he was, and he
Speaker 3: was an under Armour All American in high school out
Speaker 3: of ARP Texas as a safety. Okay, he went to
Speaker 3: Texas a ARP in East Texas. ARP Texas is to
Speaker 3: it's very small class, very small. It's probably maybe I
Speaker 3: don't know, I think it is three eight. Anyway, he
Speaker 3: went to Texas as a safety and he converted a linebacker.
Speaker 3: Did play linebackers last couple of years at Texas, and
Speaker 3: as we all know, they looked really good in training
Speaker 3: camp before he suffered the ACL injury in pre season game.
Speaker 3: But to answer your question and what Mickey has just said,
Speaker 3: he was projected to be a sub package linebacker last year.
Speaker 2: Let's look at that.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 2: We were blown off the map.
Speaker 7: Oh no, in our last several games, as we spoke
Speaker 7: of earlier in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: First, I want he was not projected to be Leyton
Speaker 3: vander Esh's replacement.
Speaker 4: I want I want the ability when that team goes
Speaker 4: two tight ends or a full back, put three legitimate
Speaker 4: linebackers on the field.
Speaker 7: I would not put him down as a legitimate line No.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying. I'm not saying that's why I'm saying
Speaker 4: a linebacker.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: So if he's saying linebacker is a need need.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well yeah, we agree on that. I just don't
Speaker 7: want any more hybrids. No, that's my point. We got
Speaker 7: the hybrid yet.
Speaker 2: I want to just like what we brought in, the
Speaker 2: veteran that we brought in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got hybrid linebackers out the wazoo. We don't
Speaker 3: need from Marquise Bell to one Wilson.
Speaker 2: Where you're gonna play parcels. Is he gonna be a
Speaker 2: line where he's gonna be a linebacker.
Speaker 7: I need to find out if you're gonna be a dB,
Speaker 7: Are you gonna be a Are you gonna be a safety?
Speaker 2: Are you're gonna be a linebacker?
Speaker 7: That's the ones that we need to try and figure
Speaker 7: out as much as Michael parcels.
Speaker 2: We've got these hybrids.
Speaker 7: What position I'm p I think Marquis Bell should never
Speaker 7: play linebacker again. I don't think he should have to
Speaker 7: play linebacker. He should be back there as a safety
Speaker 7: roaming the way he really can roam. We're wasting him
Speaker 7: in this finite space here. He needs to be in
Speaker 7: the back where he can make some plays. And he
Speaker 7: did a damn good job, as we all agree, he
Speaker 7: did a damn good job this year, but put him in.
Speaker 7: We need to start being more traditional in our defensive
Speaker 7: packages because we needed a package different from what we
Speaker 7: had against Buffalo, against Miami, against against Green Bak And that's.
Speaker 3: Going to be the intriguing thing this offseason as we
Speaker 3: are able to watch ota practices and to get into
Speaker 3: training camp and how Mike Zimmer is using these players
Speaker 3: in contrast perhaps to what the way dan quinncau is.
Speaker 4: I don't want the quarterback that beats me in the
Speaker 4: playoffs to say oh, we noticed you had a safety
Speaker 4: playing linebacker, and we thought we'd just run the ball.
Speaker 7: And it was pretty obvious in this room. We knew
Speaker 7: that was going on. We were just that something would
Speaker 7: come about. We were hoping that Evans would turn out
Speaker 7: to you know, plug in that stuff, and you know,
Speaker 7: you just can't do that. We we realize now we
Speaker 7: cannot do that.
Speaker 2: It does not work.
Speaker 7: We were very optimistic, uh, going into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's right.
Speaker 7: I don't think that's to the fans for us to
Speaker 7: sit up here and try to make them believe that.
Speaker 3: All right, So we continue with mixed shots. In just
Speaker 3: a moment, and there is a defensive player in this draft,
Speaker 3: and Mickey is very high on and I am climbing
Speaker 3: aboard the bandwagon when we come back just a moment.
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Speaker 3: All right, almost as good as the big Green NFL
Speaker 3: Draft Scouts, which is starting to fill out your section
Speaker 3: in here. There's a I don't get started. I get
Speaker 3: I had to make three trips to baseball spring training,
Speaker 3: so I'm just now diving into this draft big time.
Speaker 3: And I love the next couple of weeks because I've
Speaker 3: right now I've got a fairly decent handle on the
Speaker 3: top fifty players. I love studying the next two hundred players.
Speaker 3: I want to figure out who they're going to get
Speaker 3: in the fourth, fifth, and sixth. Well, they don't have
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick, but we can trade next year's
Speaker 3: fourth and get a fourth anyway, there was so I
Speaker 3: texted Mickey on Friday. I think it was because I
Speaker 3: was looking at a player from the university of Missouri.
Speaker 3: And I don't remember exactly what I texted you, but
Speaker 3: I love this player. And he is a defensive lineman
Speaker 3: and his name is Darius Robinson. He is six ' five,
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty five pounds with ten and a
Speaker 3: half inch hands, thirty four and a half inch arms,
Speaker 3: an eighty four and a half inch wingspan. He had
Speaker 3: eight and a half sacks for the Missouri Tigers first
Speaker 3: team All SEC this past season. He's an academic All American.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: He's a mixture of Max Crosby and Chris Jones and
Speaker 3: Mickey actually agrees.
Speaker 4: With me, and they don't have a measure for your
Speaker 4: playing nature. But he's a badass.
Speaker 3: He's also a two time team captain too. He was
Speaker 3: organizing workouts at ten o'clock at night.
Speaker 4: And he's been known to get kicked out of games.
Speaker 6: Really, that's what I want out of my defensive tackle,
Speaker 6: actually playing too hard or being too rough for going
Speaker 6: playing after the whistle.
Speaker 4: Uh, this guy, you want him. He's one of those
Speaker 4: guys you want on your team. And if you keep
Speaker 4: looking at things, there's very good chance.
Speaker 3: He could be there.
Speaker 2: He this is a nice guy. Twenty four.
Speaker 3: This is nice are you looking up Darius Robinson, look
Speaker 3: at the defensive linemange sixty one. Okay, page sixty one. Good,
Speaker 3: all right, everyone turned to him number sixty one. Now
Speaker 3: let's sing the praise Darius Robbins Sports Bible. He's also
Speaker 3: a he's.
Speaker 2: He is a oh miss guy. Huhags likes him.
Speaker 3: Man, you no, no, no, A lot of times I
Speaker 3: can give you, man, I can have you and listening,
Speaker 3: I can give hey Everson. I can give you a
Speaker 3: ton of you guys that I would not draft. And
Speaker 3: so I think the fans that are most passionate about
Speaker 3: their team give you a true reading on one player,
Speaker 3: sing one way or the other, and you usually it
Speaker 3: is you really love them or you really hate them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you're tougher on them than exactly.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: And this guy can play and he could play a
Speaker 4: good person too, and he can play inside.
Speaker 7: God got a great smile. Great smile if that means anything.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's one of the slower linebackers out there.
Speaker 3: He's on a linebacker. He's six and eighty five pound
Speaker 3: defensive line.
Speaker 2: Slower defensive lineman out there.
Speaker 3: Well. He ran a four nine to five at two
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five pounds.
Speaker 2: God, these guys are so fast.
Speaker 3: Right, So I mean once again he's coupled with the guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so that's because these guys are running four
Speaker 7: to seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's to four six? What's the weight on the
Speaker 3: four six guy?
Speaker 2: That just the four to six guy? Fifty one?
Speaker 3: Okay, he ran a four six to two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty one pounds. Yeah, this guy's too, he's forty pounds heavier.
Speaker 4: To eighty five and he can play inside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he's the guy that inside outside he's uh,
Speaker 3: but he's got.
Speaker 2: And he can move. I can see I can see it.
Speaker 2: I can see it.
Speaker 3: I got to get you some video on the plan too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson his.
Speaker 2: Three cone is his three cone drill is up there?
Speaker 2: What is he whether heavy?
Speaker 3: Because I don't have the cone dribble.
Speaker 2: That's that's okay, b J. All right, Uh the.
Speaker 3: Robinson at a thirty five vertical and.
Speaker 2: Anyway, he's all.
Speaker 5: Right, he's on your radar, Mickey.
Speaker 3: He's he should be on all of our radars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you never know. When Brown shows.
Speaker 2: That thirty five vertical is really good, Yeah, really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that shows explosion.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he's the heaviest one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that?
Speaker 4: No, I was just trying to make a joke. Defensive
Speaker 4: tackle Derek Brown, Carolina ninety six million dollars extension as
Speaker 4: a defensive tackle, although he did have one hundred and
Speaker 4: three tackles this last year.
Speaker 3: He had one hundred and three tackles this year as
Speaker 3: an interior defensive blindman.
Speaker 4: Eighty eighty he played. He played eighty nine percent of
Speaker 4: the snaps and however, whoever judges this said he had
Speaker 4: a forty seven percent win rate versus the run. So
Speaker 4: that's why he's averaging twenty four million a year with
Speaker 4: sixty three million guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Okay, late round, Jim, we're still talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh, I love it making ever since starting
Speaker 3: to get into this draft. We're going into the late round.
Speaker 3: Jim's Jaylyx Hunt.
Speaker 2: Now he's two fifty two, okay, four six four forty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's on end.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I'm okay with getting No, I'm not.
Speaker 7: Really no, this is not a back of I'm just impressed.
Speaker 7: I'm impressed with these numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Uh, vertical thirty seven and a half man at four
Speaker 7: six four broad jumped ten eight this guy's that's now
Speaker 7: you're talking about the great athlete here. That's why I
Speaker 7: know he's laid round, but he's sixty four two fifty.
Speaker 4: Two, sort of like Randy Gregory.
Speaker 7: Oh look, this is the picture that somebody sent me
Speaker 7: this picture of too Ta tall, too tall and Tom Laser.
Speaker 2: Yeah I had from London.
Speaker 7: Yeah no, no, this is this is when he was
Speaker 7: first drafted. That afro has to be circa seventy two,
Speaker 7: seventy seven or something like that.
Speaker 3: All right, else he's on your legal pad there, Mickey.
Speaker 4: Well, I mentioned Randy Gregory switch teams again. Tampa Bay
Speaker 4: signed him for three million up to five with incentives.
Speaker 2: Is a good, good up and coming team.
Speaker 4: So we'll see that's his what third team since he
Speaker 4: left the Cowboys signed with Denver that didn't work out,
Speaker 4: and they're currently having paid fourteen point four million in
Speaker 4: dead money this year for him after they traded him
Speaker 4: last year middle of the season the San Francisco He'll.
Speaker 2: Be He'll be in Dallas to He'll be back in
Speaker 2: Dallas to this. Hey, what's up.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna happen. When he turned his
Speaker 4: back on what he said he was going to do. So,
Speaker 4: uh yeah, he'll be in Tampa.
Speaker 3: Bay and they have a need. Shaq Barrett went to Miami.
Speaker 4: Right, So so they found a kind of it. So
Speaker 4: it's less expensive replace.
Speaker 3: And Tampa Bay has been up against the camp for
Speaker 3: a couple of years now, coming off the Tom Brady era.
Speaker 3: And so when you lose a player like Shaq Barrett,
Speaker 3: you get an economical replacement in Randy Gregory or Tuma.
Speaker 2: And by the way, none of these guys have the
Speaker 2: three college drills. None of them did.
Speaker 3: Well a bunch of them. Here's the deal at the combine.
Speaker 3: It's interesting you bring that up, especially for edge rushers,
Speaker 3: the cone drill. It really sets the bar a lot
Speaker 3: of times for whether you're teams look at that closely
Speaker 3: on whether you're a first round draft pick, second round
Speaker 3: draft pick, third round draft pick. Agents have gotten wise
Speaker 3: to it now.
Speaker 4: Under and so the deadline for that stuff.
Speaker 3: Was no, no, no, this is from the combine and
Speaker 3: so those combine numbers are the times they don't know.
Speaker 3: But no, here's the point. Agents have gotten wise to that,
Speaker 3: and they have advised their clients not to do the
Speaker 3: cone drill because if you have there's a certain amount
Speaker 3: of training that also goes into that's why you go
Speaker 3: to this Michael Johnson Performance Place and all these other
Speaker 3: places to train to get that cone drill down under seven. Well,
Speaker 3: if you don't get the technique just right and you
Speaker 3: run a seven to three seven point three to oh
Speaker 3: instead of a six nine five or seven point oh,
Speaker 3: it can drop your draft stock from a first round
Speaker 3: that day. So the agents have now said, hey, I
Speaker 3: don't want you, don't do then drill.
Speaker 2: There's still two on here that actually have numbers. Dwayne
Speaker 2: Carter from Duke.
Speaker 7: He's a senior six two three oh two and his
Speaker 7: cone numbers the three cone was seven point nine five.
Speaker 2: And what is he He's a he's a tackle.
Speaker 3: He's interior, Yeah, interior interior guys.
Speaker 4: It's not this matter ain't none.
Speaker 7: But that's Gabe Hall. Baylor sixty six is senior to
Speaker 7: ninety one. And where's he's seven six five project round gym.
Speaker 3: But he's an interior defensive line.
Speaker 7: Now, Carter number seven, he's projected number seven. And that's
Speaker 7: the other one that had the drill. But you've got
Speaker 7: a couple of them that have done it. Uh, what's
Speaker 7: the shuttle? Okay, twenty the twenty yard shuttle?
Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Four point three him for
Speaker 2: Braidon Fisk out of Florida State.
Speaker 4: So at twenty yards he's four point Is it a
Speaker 4: shuttle or the shovel its twenty yards into the forty's
Speaker 4: a seven?
Speaker 7: The cell he ran four point three seven Braidon Fisk
Speaker 7: at two ninety two. And then you've got Gabe Hall
Speaker 7: did a four point sixty seven in the twenty yard shuttle.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm looking through my numbers. For example, Leatu
Speaker 3: Latu of UCLA is one of the top edge rushers
Speaker 3: in this draft. He's projected to be first round draft pick.
Speaker 3: He ran a seven to nine. He was one that
Speaker 3: actually did the cone drill seven oh nine. Dallas Turner
Speaker 3: from Alabama who ran a four to four to six
Speaker 3: with a forty and a half vertical and a ten
Speaker 3: to seven broad jump, and he's considered the top edge rusher,
Speaker 3: top ten draft pick. He didn't do the cone drill.
Speaker 3: He can do it. I guarantee you that Dallas Turner
Speaker 3: with a proper training, or maybe with any training, can
Speaker 3: run a seven flat or faster cone drill. But why
Speaker 3: risk it when you've already put up numbers with a
Speaker 3: four four six forty And why risk? Why risk if
Speaker 3: you haven't if you haven't solely trained for that cone drill.
Speaker 7: This is defensive end running a four point four six forty.
Speaker 2: Is that what I see? Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That's yes. He's six three two and forty seven pounds, so.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a freening.
Speaker 7: He more like a freenie right outside. And he's got
Speaker 7: long arm, not really tall necessary.
Speaker 3: And for Alabama, well, he's sixty three.
Speaker 7: That's not for edge rusher, that's not m Yeah, but
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that's why I put him in a
Speaker 7: free a freeny category.
Speaker 3: They got another rusher from Alabama, Chris Braswell that I like,
Speaker 3: who's six three two fifty one and he ran but
Speaker 3: he ran a four to six, so that's the difference
Speaker 3: between and and he had he had eight sacks for
Speaker 3: Alabama this year. Dallas Turner had ten sacks. And Turner's
Speaker 3: a top ten pick. And Chris Briswell will be a
Speaker 3: guy that you can get in the second round probably.
Speaker 4: And welcome to the Cowboys Draft show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 3: Great time of the year, Mickey.
Speaker 5: Speaking of which, guys, I'm going to be out in
Speaker 5: Detroit for the draft this year.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's right about that, all right, and you're
Speaker 7: gonna be out that with the hoodlums of.
Speaker 5: Yes, I will.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, you know.
Speaker 5: Well, we'll be there with all the Inner Circle fans
Speaker 5: and then as well as on the media's side, so
Speaker 5: we can check out some of these top prospects.
Speaker 3: Okay, when we come back here on mix shots, Mickey,
Speaker 3: do you have a rant? I have a couple, oh,
Speaker 3: a couple of Mick shots coming at you in just
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Speaker 4: Of the darkness breaking news.
Speaker 3: Will the Cowboys come out of the darkness of this
Speaker 3: off season at that time too?
Speaker 4: He's so poetic, breaking light, start breaking newss A breaking
Speaker 4: news alert, breaking news, but on.
Speaker 3: A bomb, a bom bomb, breaking news from the Cowboys
Speaker 3: news room and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2: That's not how it sounds.
Speaker 4: The sun's out.
Speaker 3: The sun is out here.
Speaker 4: Oh that's good, though it is flows breaking up.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 4: I see some blue sky, not totally, but when I
Speaker 4: went out there, there's shadows. So means the sun is shining.
Speaker 3: He went out and saw it shadows. So that means, however,
Speaker 3: two more hours of sunshine.
Speaker 2: That's a good work. We're gonna we're gonna keep making
Speaker 2: a little little hole down.
Speaker 6: There, na come in and they're gonna need them.
Speaker 3: What do they call it?
Speaker 10: Honey?
Speaker 7: Yeah, pox of honey pox, No fox, holly feel Risco, Mickey.
Speaker 3: Frisco. Mickey just went outside saw his shadow?
Speaker 2: Does that?
Speaker 3: What does that mean about news? Is it? Six more
Speaker 3: weeks of winter for the Cowboys? Off season?
Speaker 4: Don't start?
Speaker 3: Don't do that?
Speaker 4: Better not be which no one wants to admit. Why
Speaker 4: it's just amazing to me. Why why they're not doing anything? Okay,
Speaker 4: we go the draft and just for perspective.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's talk.
Speaker 3: They have they have they have?
Speaker 2: Do we have it in the booth?
Speaker 3: We have salary jasmine? I don't know, but yeah, producers,
Speaker 3: supremes not here.
Speaker 4: They have six million dollars.
Speaker 2: We're going there, you go.
Speaker 4: They got six million dollars available under the salary cap.
Speaker 4: Their projected draft pool is eight million dollars.
Speaker 2: So do the math.
Speaker 4: If they were drafting today, they couldn't draft seven guys.
Speaker 3: They've got the Michael Gallup money for.
Speaker 4: The draft pool, I know, but today they don't.
Speaker 3: And that's what people I heard a national talk show
Speaker 3: talking about the what you're talking about? What are they
Speaker 3: going to do? And they clearly weren't aware that Michael
Speaker 3: Gallup was a June first cut, right, and and that
Speaker 3: money that will become available eight million dollars on June first,
Speaker 3: you can, you can sign your draft lass.
Speaker 4: Well, just remember next year it's eight more million in
Speaker 4: dead money. So there's no no free lunch.
Speaker 3: We're living. We're living this thing month to month, week
Speaker 3: to week. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then there's uh, there's.
Speaker 3: What happens when you're when your credit card is over
Speaker 3: the limit.
Speaker 2: And they don't they That's exactly what happened all in.
Speaker 3: The been there, done that.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the NFL doesn't just doesn't just drives your interest, right,
Speaker 4: they charge you draft choices and millions.
Speaker 2: Of dollars, right, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: The other thing I see out there is no one
Speaker 4: understands why they haven't signed Dak Prescott to an extension. Well,
Speaker 4: number one, it takes two people to sign an extension,
Speaker 4: and no one has said anything about what Dak's guys
Speaker 4: are asking for. Remember, he averaged forty million on this
Speaker 4: last contract. And now you understand why the Cowboys were
Speaker 4: pushing for a five year deal and not a four
Speaker 4: year deal. And because it's a four year deal, this
Speaker 4: is the last year. And I'll guarantee you they're waiting
Speaker 4: for more to happen with quarterbacks to sign, to see
Speaker 4: what the average is going to be. Because the top
Speaker 4: averages right now are Joe Burrow with fifty five million,
Speaker 4: Herbert with fifty two million, Lamar Jackson fifty two, and
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts fifty one. So guess what they're asking for
Speaker 4: sixty million a year at least. And so I think
Speaker 4: that's one of the reasons why the Cowboys are sitting
Speaker 4: there going, Okay, you want to bet on yourself, you
Speaker 4: want to wait, Well, we can wait you out if
Speaker 4: you don't agree to sign for what we have. And
Speaker 4: he's already tried that once with the with the franchise
Speaker 4: tag and got hurt. Now what if that had been
Speaker 4: a career ending injury and he turned his back on
Speaker 4: I forgot what the franchise tag guaranteed was at that point,
Speaker 4: but it was nearly thirty million. I think so you
Speaker 4: got to ask yourself you're going to take the money
Speaker 4: that's available or are you going to bet on yourself?
Speaker 4: And I think that's a that's a.
Speaker 2: They do. Yeah, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, you know what, if I've made the
Speaker 4: money I've already made, I'm probably not going to take
Speaker 4: that bet. The other one that's going on.
Speaker 3: And Zy before you moved to the other one, is
Speaker 3: it about the quarterbacks too, or is it something no,
Speaker 3: no quarterbacks. The other thing on DAK is Miami is
Speaker 3: thinking about doing a TUA long term contract, right, And
Speaker 3: so if you're the DAK camp, the TUA camp, do
Speaker 3: you want to be first to sign that because whoever
Speaker 3: goes second is gonna get more money than that first guy.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what's happening with CD Lamb because Justin Jefferson
Speaker 4: is in the same boat that CD Lamb is. He's
Speaker 4: on his fifth year option that's worth nineteen million, the
Speaker 4: CDs is eighteen million, so they both need an extension
Speaker 4: to lower the cap hit for this year. Here's the thing, guys,
Speaker 4: So they're waiting because the agent doesn't want to get
Speaker 4: trump like I signed my guy for twenty five million,
Speaker 4: and then CD gets thirty million.
Speaker 7: Even when I when I played, I bet on myself
Speaker 7: and it worked out for me. I didn't get injured,
Speaker 7: thank god, and the play was decent. So I always
Speaker 7: look at it like this. Everyone can't be the top
Speaker 7: paid player. Everyone can't be the top paid player. So
Speaker 7: if you're waiting on something to happen, okay, I'm too
Speaker 7: waiting on. You might be talking about you know.
Speaker 2: Two million here, three million there, and I know it
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 7: That it's trivial sounds weird, But when it's all said
Speaker 7: and done, I don't think it makes that much of
Speaker 7: a freaking difference.
Speaker 11: Guys.
Speaker 7: I mean, you've got you're gonna tell me justin Jefferson's
Speaker 7: not gonna be happy if someone else makes more money
Speaker 7: than neither. I know, but this is the player's call. Yes,
Speaker 7: I know what I'm saying, And so I've always looked
Speaker 7: at like I don't have to be the top. I
Speaker 7: mean I want to be up there, of course, but
Speaker 7: I don't want to be the top. There are many
Speaker 7: other ways you can make some money. There's many other
Speaker 7: clauses you can put in your contract if you want
Speaker 7: to even it out. But to me, all of this
Speaker 7: say I gotta be number one. That's really just about pride.
Speaker 7: When it comes to a player standpoint, agent wants the
Speaker 7: money the player.
Speaker 2: That's just ego.
Speaker 7: It's just And I'm not trying to say players should
Speaker 7: be taking less money. Trust me, I'm not trying to
Speaker 7: say that. We know, yeah exactly, that's not me. But
Speaker 7: you know, when it's all said and done, somebody's going
Speaker 7: to be number two, three, four, five, sixty seven. It's
Speaker 7: gonna be somebody, and so you're not gonna be happy
Speaker 7: with it. If you were happy when you signed it,
Speaker 7: now you're not happy because someone's making more than you.
Speaker 7: To me, that's just it doesn't make much sense when
Speaker 7: it comes down to the final say.
Speaker 4: So because you might be number one today, next year
Speaker 4: you're gonna be No.
Speaker 2: It's going to be somebody.
Speaker 7: Be happy with the money that you had, and I
Speaker 7: don't mean take less once again, but be happy with
Speaker 7: that tagline that you signed.
Speaker 4: You signed that and we started this I think it
Speaker 4: was last week, right you asked what do you think
Speaker 4: the market value is for the wide receivers now? And
Speaker 4: we pointed out that Tyreek Hill averages thirty million a year.
Speaker 4: So these guys now want thirty million or more year
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams twenty eight million, Cooper Cup twenty six million.
Speaker 7: So now what's the And it depends on where you
Speaker 7: are in your contract right right, See when you're in
Speaker 7: that seat of my contract right then, Okay, let's start
Speaker 7: talking about something better. Because I played better than tybee Hill.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm just saying if I was a player
Speaker 7: or not I played Ben tyber Hill. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 7: about some raise or raising me up there just for
Speaker 7: ego purposes. You're showing me how much love you have
Speaker 7: for me by making me the highest page, just by
Speaker 7: adding a little bit more because tybee Hill just went
Speaker 7: above me.
Speaker 4: And see, we don't know what their sides are asking for.
Speaker 4: So again, the Cowboys got to manage their cap, not
Speaker 4: just this year, but next year. Take that next year.
Speaker 4: If he's not on this team and he doesn't get
Speaker 4: an extension, he's got a forty million dollars of dead
Speaker 4: money from voided years that they've pushed money down to
Speaker 4: restructures contract. So there's more to it than just well,
Speaker 4: get it done. It doesn't happen that way because it
Speaker 4: takes two people to negotiate a contract. And then the
Speaker 4: other thing we kind of got at the end. You
Speaker 4: asked last week about Trey Lance. Yes, that he's in
Speaker 4: his final year of his contract and the Cowboys basically
Speaker 4: have a one year or whatever April to December to
Speaker 4: make a judgment on what he is. And from asking around,
Speaker 4: my understanding is you're going to see a lot of TREYE.
Speaker 4: Lance in the off season in the OTAs they know
Speaker 4: what Cooper Rush is. They've got three preseason games Dak
Speaker 4: plays what a half of one. They don't need to
Speaker 4: see Cooper Rush. So you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 4: Trey Lance this off season especially, I mean, they don't
Speaker 4: need to overwork Dack, especially in training camp. So they're
Speaker 4: going to take a good look at him to see
Speaker 4: exactly what they have. And they didn't give him that
Speaker 4: four million dollar roster bonus for nothing, right, They want
Speaker 4: to see and they don't know. We don't know, so
Speaker 4: they've got to find out and they've got one season
Speaker 4: to find out about what Trey Lance is. Is he
Speaker 4: a future backup? Is he a guy that you want
Speaker 4: to start grooming for the future, or what if you
Speaker 4: see him play really well and there's a quarterback injury
Speaker 4: and somebody goes, I'll give you a second round pick
Speaker 4: for him. He turned a fourth into a second. So
Speaker 4: that's kind of what's going on with him. They've liked
Speaker 4: what they've scene so far, but they have not seen
Speaker 4: anything on the field in a competitive situation because they
Speaker 4: basically retooled him. This was like a year of quarterback
Speaker 4: school for him. From a technique standpoint, steps, shoulder, arm slots.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have that much experience, well experience at twenty
Speaker 3: three years old. He's if he was in this draft,
Speaker 3: he'd be right up there in the top five picks
Speaker 3: in the draft. Again, yep, he's the same age as
Speaker 3: half the quarterbacks that are projected to be first round
Speaker 3: picks in this draft.
Speaker 4: I did look that up somewhere and I was looking
Speaker 4: at the ages, and you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: They don't have it in these days.
Speaker 5: At ages it's like twenty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so. So they've got to find out about
Speaker 4: him and be prepared. You're going to see a lot
Speaker 4: of Trey Lance in this off season, the OTAs and
Speaker 4: then when they get to training camp, because they got
Speaker 4: to find out what he is.
Speaker 3: All right, two minutes left here, I want to ask Everson,
Speaker 3: what do you think of the stuff on dig straight?
Speaker 3: And by the way, Stefan Diggs and the Texans will
Speaker 3: be coming here to take on Trayvon Diggs and the
Speaker 3: cow Boys.
Speaker 4: It's finally we got the match up.
Speaker 7: I was talking trash down into South Padre Island. They
Speaker 7: were bragging about Houston. I tell him that's still the
Speaker 7: second best team in Texas.
Speaker 3: So, you know, the first when the first the trade
Speaker 3: was first announced, it sounded like such a steal for
Speaker 3: the Texans because all they had to give up was
Speaker 3: next year's second round pick and they were getting back
Speaker 3: in return sixth rounder this year and a fifth rounder
Speaker 3: next year. Well, then in the couple of days later,
Speaker 3: word comes out that Trayvon's having I mean, Stephan's having
Speaker 3: his contract redone and it's only a one year deal
Speaker 3: that he's on. Real guess what, So he is one year.
Speaker 3: It's a one year deal that Stefan Diggs is on.
Speaker 4: And soy two point five million fully guaranteed it's and.
Speaker 3: It's another three million on top of that, which was
Speaker 3: a roster bonus that will come into effect for this
Speaker 3: year too.
Speaker 4: So basically basically that's what got because it was eighteen,
Speaker 4: and I got you so.
Speaker 3: Any but the point is weird.
Speaker 2: So the point.
Speaker 3: For just one year, yeah, so, and they're giving up
Speaker 3: their second round draft pick and so. And the other
Speaker 3: thing is what was going on Apparently with Stephan in Buffalo,
Speaker 3: they felt like they had to get him and Buffalo's.
Speaker 2: Transfer to a young quarterback in Houston.
Speaker 3: And on Buffalo's perspective, can a young wide receiver come
Speaker 3: in there and take up the slack whatever you I
Speaker 3: think they felt like they could not have a young
Speaker 3: if they drafted wide receiver in the first round. Kind
Speaker 3: of like the same situation where the Cowboys were in
Speaker 3: with CD and Amari Cooper, where the Cowboys felt like
Speaker 3: CD needs to be the top dog in that room,
Speaker 3: and you can't bring in a first round wide receiver
Speaker 3: and Stephan be the top dog in the room. With
Speaker 3: what was going on behind the scenes there.
Speaker 7: Apparently what's the kid's named Nicolae Nico Collins and dells that.
Speaker 2: Last year.
Speaker 7: So you've got a young quarterback of a young team.
Speaker 7: Here comes Diggs who's very boisterous and aggressive. Can he
Speaker 7: do the same thing in Houston that he was trying
Speaker 7: to do in Buffalo? In other words, demand much more
Speaker 7: from his quarterback, in other words, throw me the ball
Speaker 7: all the time.
Speaker 4: And what happened was the last seven games his production
Speaker 4: went down and they changed off into coordinator, right, and
Speaker 4: also his targets went down. So the last seven games
Speaker 4: he didn't have a one hundred yard reception game. What
Speaker 4: do you think nothing?
Speaker 2: What about the offensive coordinated that he's going to now,
Speaker 2: do they have a connection.
Speaker 7: Does he seem to think that in some way this
Speaker 7: is going to prove out to be more passes for
Speaker 7: the Bobby Sloan?
Speaker 3: You really think that?
Speaker 5: And I think it's even that negotiation of going on
Speaker 5: to a one year deal that kind of goes to
Speaker 5: show like, hey, we're going to give this a chance.
Speaker 5: Let's see how much I.
Speaker 4: Can get the ball.
Speaker 2: He must feel it, he must he must something like that.
Speaker 4: But he's looking at I got all this money for
Speaker 4: one year and I'm a free agent again next.
Speaker 3: Year, right, And so it's it's a Kirk Cousins effect
Speaker 3: here where he and his agent's doing a great job
Speaker 3: of working the system to get as much money as
Speaker 3: he can and in a year from now he'll have
Speaker 3: a big year in Houston.
Speaker 2: That's that's case. Scenario.
Speaker 7: He has a big year in Houston. Houston looks like
Speaker 7: they look towards the end of the season. He's a
Speaker 7: part of that. Then he can stay and sign for
Speaker 7: a multi.
Speaker 3: Day and you're taking your matters into your own hands
Speaker 3: with your contract where you're not leaving it up to Buffalo.
Speaker 3: He made enough noise there in Buffalo that and they
Speaker 3: worked out a deal where he and now he's got
Speaker 3: a one year deal in Houston. And now he's got
Speaker 3: his future in his own hands because a year from
Speaker 3: now he just get cut from Buffalo, maybe even after
Speaker 3: the free agent flurry and of signings, and he wouldn't
Speaker 3: get nearest.
Speaker 2: Money you've got.
Speaker 7: You got a young, young, up and coming coach in Houston.
Speaker 7: This guy's doing a great job. Do you bring in
Speaker 7: And I don't want to call him a wild caught,
Speaker 7: He's not that by any means, But when you look
Speaker 7: at the issues that he had with his quarterback last year,
Speaker 7: talking about Diggs, do you want to bring that into
Speaker 7: this comfortable situation that you have right now here? There's
Speaker 7: a young team you know that's still very They can
Speaker 7: be influenced in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3: I take they feel like though they could hit. They
Speaker 3: could be right on something like a Mahomes in Kansas
Speaker 3: City in his fourth what he do his first year
Speaker 3: as a quarterback there in his second year. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're making them run all the way to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: They give it. They're giving Stroud enough weapons where if
Speaker 3: they stay healthy, they can make a deep run. And yeah,
Speaker 3: they aren't going to have They'll negotiate with Stephan after
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 7: But uh, I've got to see how he fits with
Speaker 7: this quarter But even from to see how he fits
Speaker 7: with this.
Speaker 3: This even from a Buffalo standpoint, it makes a lot
Speaker 3: more sense now that we hear that it's just a
Speaker 3: one year deal that Stephan is on. Uh and so
Speaker 3: a year from now, Texans, what what do they have
Speaker 3: to show for this?
Speaker 2: Straight?
Speaker 3: Okay, whatever Diggs does this year, what the Texans do
Speaker 3: this year, Well, they they've lost their second round pick
Speaker 3: next year, so.
Speaker 4: And they're going to be maybe desperate if it's a
Speaker 4: good year to sign them to an extension. And let's
Speaker 4: finish on this good news. Doran Bland was paid seven
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty nine thousand, seven hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 4: dollars in performance based bonus by the NFL NFL PA
Speaker 4: for his performance last year. So you almost almost made
Speaker 4: as much money in the bonus as it did in
Speaker 4: the base salary. Base salary, right, So good for right graduates.
Speaker 5: It's out running on the field.
Speaker 4: He's already out there working.
Speaker 2: Trying to get better. Yep, he'll get better too.
Speaker 3: And his base salary last year was eight hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy thousand man, so.
Speaker 4: The bonus was just one hundred thousand les.
Speaker 2: Double up, double up. That's all right, so good for
Speaker 2: Duran blak. So can we take this home?
Speaker 4: Yes, it's all years all you.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm taking mine home too, So we expect
Speaker 3: you to be very fishing on the draft.
Speaker 2: I'll be just looking for HBC. You player like, man,
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of craft.
Speaker 3: Okay, next week I'll find you some HBC.
Speaker 2: I found one already. I found the grammar melt book.
Speaker 2: Don't do that, all right? So that does it?
Speaker 3: Before you leave? Yeah, sure, you put your.
Speaker 4: Glasses, get them wet.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 3: We are like one hour and thirty six minutes away,
Speaker 3: but only total.
Speaker 2: I'm wearing mine in the lunch in the darkness.
Speaker 4: We're twenty six minutes away from first contact.
Speaker 3: Okay, first contact, don't stole it supposed to be at
Speaker 3: twelve thirty first contact with what the moon in the sun?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really? Start? I thought he was going third.
Speaker 4: Forty three pm.
Speaker 3: That's right, said again, one forty three pm.
Speaker 7: That's the exact total darkness supposed to be, not total darkness.
Speaker 5: That's the peak.
Speaker 2: It's not total darkness.
Speaker 3: It's going to be dark. You know it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Dark, but not total. This is total freaking darkness. I
Speaker 2: can't see any of y'all. You know I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be that. You know what.
Speaker 3: My assignment is to keep my sixteen year old beagle
Speaker 3: from looking at the sun. My wife said, when do
Speaker 3: you want to work? I said, oh, after the tottality whatever,
Speaker 3: And she said, okay, you'll be here. Make sure that
Speaker 3: bo doesn't look at the sun inside. No, she said,
Speaker 3: She said, even if he's inside, he can look out
Speaker 3: the window. He's sixteen years old and can't see my head.
Speaker 2: He's already blind. I can't see it's already blind. I said,
Speaker 2: there's no damage about it.
Speaker 3: If I pointed his head towards the sun and maybe
Speaker 3: he'll be able to see again. Yeah, maybe it'll correct this.
Speaker 4: Anyway, where does he sleep?
Speaker 2: You don't want to know.
Speaker 4: In our in the bed, in our bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put him in hate that crap.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 4: Put him in the bend, definitely, Come on, man, I
Speaker 4: hate that.
Speaker 2: That's that's I've been there, done that. I've been there,
Speaker 2: done that. All right.
Speaker 3: Uh, Fortunately she's at work and not listening. And we
Speaker 3: will see you again next Monday here and it will
Speaker 3: be the first day of work for the off season
Speaker 3: next Friday here.
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