1 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health. 2 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: All right, good to have you with us here on 3 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: a Thursday. Chris Brown, Maddy glab with you. One Bill's 4 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: Live is the show, and holy mackerel, did we have 5 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: a lot of activity late yesterday afternoon. Some fans were 6 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: calling it black Wednesday because of all the player releases 7 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: that happened, high profile names among them. And you know, 8 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: if you've been living under a and you don't know 9 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: all those names. We will pass them along to you 10 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: here on the course of the show today and we'll 11 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: get into our topic good discussion here pretty quickly. But 12 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: I guess we should begin with that list most of 13 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: you know it by now, but essentially five players released 14 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, Jordan Poyer, Mitch Morse, Saran Neil, Deontay Hardy, 15 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 2: and Naheim Hines. There's also a report that Tredavious White 16 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: will be a post June first release designation, which would 17 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: clear more salary cap space. So presumably when all is 18 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: said and done, it will be six players in total. 19 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: You've got one, two, three players who have made four 20 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: players who have made the Pro Bowl. Forgot, Deontay Hardy 21 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: made a Pro Bowl as a return man, a couple 22 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: of all pros in White and Poyer, and team captains 23 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: as well, Morse and Poyer, so pretty notable names. I 24 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: know for some it came as a surprise, but Maddie, 25 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: we've been talking about this for a few weeks on 26 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: the show. Now, some decisions like this we're going to 27 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: have to be made. And if you just look at 28 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: the cap figures of some of the players, you can 29 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: kind of connect the dots. 30 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went into yesterday with the Bills being at 31 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: a spot with their salary cap number at forty two 32 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: million dollars over the cap over two fifty five point four, 33 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: so they had some work to do. We knew what 34 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: would happened, we were just waiting for when. Well, it 35 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: happened in bunches yesterday afternoon. And some of these names 36 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: not as surprising as others. There's a couple surprises on 37 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: this list. A couple players that I were surprised to 38 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: see be a part of the group that was released 39 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: yesterday afternoon. Mitch Morse is a surprise for me. It 40 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: makes sense with the cap hit number, with what they'll 41 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: save in releasing him. But it's hard to day goodbye 42 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: to several players who aren't going to be a part 43 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: of this roster anymore. You think about what they gave 44 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: to the Bills, how much time they gave, how many 45 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: games they played, how much of an impact they were 46 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: on this team, on this roster. Jordan Poyer came in 47 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, was one of the foundational pieces to 48 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: this group. Helped so much in the locker room in 49 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: terms of creating a culture. Buying into Sean McDermott from 50 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: day one. 51 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: He was a pro bowler. He was an All Pro. 52 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: He had twenty two interceptions in his seven seasons with 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: the Bills. He is somebody that you think of immediately 54 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: when you think about what the Bills started in twenty seventeen. 55 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: And Mitch Morse is someone who came in after Josh 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: Allen's first season and started to be a center for him. 57 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: Came from the Kansas City Chiefs, had a couple of 58 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: years under his belt before coming to Buffalo, and he 59 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: was someone who was voted as a captain the last 60 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: two seasons. He's an important voice. He was an important 61 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: voice in that locker room, a big leader on the team, 62 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: a leader for the offensive line, somebody who was reliable 63 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: and dependable for Josh Allen as he grew in his career. 64 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 4: So it's hard to say. 65 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: By to a few names and report saying that Turdevius 66 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 3: White is going to be a post June one cut. 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: That one really hurts too, because Tardevius White was Sean 68 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: McDermott's one of Sean McDermott's first draft picks in twenty seventeen, 69 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: the first with the twenty seventh overall pick in that 70 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen draft. He's meant so much to the roster. 71 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: He's meant so much to the group. He had some 72 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 3: great seasons Rock and Blue and Red. People loved his personality, 73 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: loved the energy and the. 74 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 4: Vibe that he brought to the team. 75 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: He brought a smile to so many people's faces. It's 76 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: a bummer that the last two seasons were riddled with 77 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: injuries for him and we didn't know where he was 78 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: at in his recovery process. The last we heard from 79 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: Brandon Bean at the NFL Combine was that he was 80 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: working hard at it, but there was no timetable as 81 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: it relates to when he would be ready to go. So, 82 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: when you have someone like that and you have a 83 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: number attached to them, what you would save with where 84 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: the cornerbacks group is at. 85 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: It does make sense. 86 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: You realize how cruel this game is sometimes, and we're 87 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: watching the footage our MSG viewers are as well. Of 88 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: Tredavius making the only interception he made last season in 89 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 2: Week three against Washington, so it's the highest of highs, 90 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: and then the very next week in a big win 91 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 2: over Miami, he ruptures his achilles the very next week. 92 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just an example of how cruel this 93 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: game can be on your body. Knowing the time these 94 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: guys put into play. To see that happen to him 95 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: was just devastating for everybody. I mean, everybody remembers that 96 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: was at that game in Week four, watching him throw 97 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: his health over his head once he kind of came 98 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: to the realization of what had happened. Yeah, I mean, 99 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: he missed thirty games in the last three seasons, and 100 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: with a cap figure that large, the business of the 101 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: NFL eventually has to take over. And as much as 102 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: you might be as a fan emotionally tied to Trudavius 103 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: and you respect and admire the player that he is, 104 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: and I know the organization shares that same admiration and respect. 105 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: The bottom line is the bottom line, quite literally, it's 106 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: the business of this league, and his cap figure was 107 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: just not a sustainable thing, especially under the auspices of 108 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: this guy's probably not going to be ready to play 109 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: at the start of the regular season in September. This 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: injury happened in early October. He had surgery a week 111 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: or two after that, and so now you go, you know, 112 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 2: figure nine to twelve months after that, you're really pushing 113 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: to get back on a field, especially at a high 114 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: impact position like corner, where it's stop and start and 115 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: plant and drive. And I said it when it first happened, 116 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm the last person that's ever going to doubt tru 117 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Davius White. But the timing of the injury was horrible 118 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: in terms of the decisions that this football team had 119 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: to make to make the necessary moves to become CAP 120 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: compliant by March thirteenth. So terribly unfortunate. But this is 121 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: the business of the NFL and hard decisions have to 122 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: be made, and you know, Brandon being made a lot 123 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: of them. Yesterday you mentioned Poyer, you mentioned, you know, 124 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: and he along with Micah Hyde, they're kind of like 125 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: it's like Jeckel and Hyde. It's like they're synonymous. You 126 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: almost kind of can't say one without the other. And 127 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: when you know your privileged to watch them play seven 128 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: seasons together in that defensive backfield, I just got to 129 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: it was a treat. It was an absolute pleasure watching 130 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: those two play together, and cornerstone players of this McDermott era, 131 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: cornerstone players. And I tweeted it out yesterday because I 132 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 2: was you know, I knew something like this was probably 133 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: going to happen, But then after it happens, it's very 134 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: hard not to lament the fact that you're never gonna 135 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: see those two guys on the field together again in 136 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: a Bill's uniform. And Sean McDermott kind of hinted at 137 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: that in his end of season press conference, you know, 138 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: saying one more time yet, want to see them go 139 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: out the tunnel one more time for the playoff game 140 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. It's almost like he kind of saw 141 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: the writing on the wall too, and their legacy those 142 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: two guys is first of all, best safety tandem in 143 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: team history, and I don't think it's close. I mean, 144 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: you have Henry Jones George Sains back in the AFL days, 145 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: but those two together, you cannot top it. That's number one, 146 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Number two what they did for the fan base essentially, 147 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: and I put them at the tip of the spear 148 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: for this since they were two of the first free 149 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: agent signings in twenty seventeen. They essentially made Bills fans 150 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: proud of their team again and moreover, respected around the 151 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: league as a team to be reckoned with. That did 152 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: not exist for the majority of the seventeen year playoff drought. 153 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: You know, Bills fans would walk around, still wear their 154 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: colors and everything, but they would get mocked by other teams. Fans, 155 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: you're root for the Bills. I do. Yeah, they're terrible, 156 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I still root for the 157 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: Bills after that, you know, the way these two guys 158 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: kind of helped build this team into what it is now, 159 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: Bills fans can kind of puff their chest out a 160 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: little bit more. And those two guys were instrumental parts 161 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: of that and that and that is their legacy. I know, 162 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, they as much as everybody else inside this 163 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: building would have loved to see those guys get a 164 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: Super Bowl ring with this club. But that's their legacy. 165 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: And I know it's probably not what they wanted to 166 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: be their ultimate achievement here, but it's a big one 167 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: when you consider the twenty first century history of the Bills. 168 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: It's noteworthy and I hope it's not lost on them 169 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: what that means. 170 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: The two accounted for thirty eight interceptions during their time 171 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: as Buffalo Bills. That's an average of five point four 172 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: interceptions per season between the two ballhawks, and I remember 173 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: doing countless interviews with them together, and to go back 174 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: to twenty seventeen, when they were in their first season 175 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: with the Bills, they said, early on, we looked at 176 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: each other. We had conversations of what we dreamt this 177 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: place could be, what we wanted to put together in 178 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 3: a defense, in a team, and our dreams and goals 179 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: were the playoffs, were getting this team to a super Bowl, 180 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: and a lot of those goals have been accomplished. They 181 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 3: walked into this group, this team, this new surrounding, these 182 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: new surroundings, and it was a team that hadn't been 183 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: to the playoffs in several seasons. They were a part 184 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: of the group that broke that drought. They were a 185 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: part of the group that took the Bills to season 186 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: after season after season into the playoffs. They were a 187 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: part of the group that has won the AFC East 188 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: in the last four years, four straight seasons winning the 189 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: AFC East. Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer are big reasons 190 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: why Buffalo accomplished the things that they have in the 191 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: last five seasons. 192 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, Trevis White is kind of the third musketeer there. 193 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: And that's how the Bills built their defense at the beginning, 194 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: from the back to the front. You know, a lot 195 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: of teams build it front to back, and it was 196 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: interesting the approach that the Bills took, building it from 197 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: the back to the front. But it worked because the 198 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: defense was very respectable pretty much right from the jump. 199 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: And I remember interviewing Micah Hyde after the twenty eighteen 200 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: season was over. They finished six and ten, They didn't 201 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: make the playoffs, you know, and I'm trying to highlight 202 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: some of the positives. And that year they finished second 203 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: in the league against the pass second few was passing 204 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: yards allowed all season. And I'm talking to Mike, i'bout hey, 205 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: you know, I'm finished second in the past. He didn't care. 206 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, we weren't number one, And I think 207 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: that just kind of speaks to the mindset that those 208 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: two guys had and that permeated through the entire team. 209 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: He had other veteran leaders back then too. You know, 210 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: you still had Lorenzo Alexander here, you still had Kyle 211 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: Williams here. But those two guys, especially when Alexander and 212 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: Williams were no longer on the roster, were the tip 213 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: of the leadership spear for Buffalo's defense for men. So, yeah, 214 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: tough day, but I think I think we kind of recognize, 215 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: and I know it sounds cliche, but all good things 216 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: must come to an end, and this is kind of 217 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: a reset of sorts for this roster. And that was 218 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: not the only thing that the Bills did to help 219 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: get them closer to cap compliance. The Bills also reportedly 220 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: restructured the contracts of Rasul Douglas and Von Miller. Miller's 221 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: restructure reportedly saves the Bills just over eight and a 222 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: half million, as his base salary was reduced from seventeen 223 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: point one to eight and a half. The rest was 224 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: kind of put into bonuses which can be spread over 225 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: the remaining years on the deal. Douglas had almost a 226 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: ten million dollar cap hit, so that's down to about 227 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: seven and a half now, so that should save the 228 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: Bills about a little under two and a half on 229 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: the cap, and just estimated total cap savings based on 230 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: the official and the reported moves by the Bills somewhere 231 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: between ieen thirty six and thirty seven million dollars. It 232 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: is widely anticipated that the last move will be the 233 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: biggest of the bunch, and that will be the cap 234 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: conversion restructure of Josh Allen's contract, which should amount to 235 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: twenty three more million in cap space get them under 236 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: the cap comfortably, because this is not just an exercise 237 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: in giving yourself money under the cap to sign free 238 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: agents Matty, as we know, it's also about signing your 239 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: draft class, which is anticipated to now have eleven picks 240 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: once the compensatories come through, and the Bills are expected 241 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: to get one for tain the loss of Tremaine Edmunds 242 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: in free agency last year. So it's not only the 243 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: eleven picks, it's also signing undrafted players, putting together a 244 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: practice squad which is now sixteen players. I mean back 245 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: in the day, practice squad was seven players. It's sixteen now, 246 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: so you're talking about upwards of twenty six to twenty 247 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: eight additional players after your free agency wave in March 248 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: and presumably early April. So they have to get comfortably 249 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: under And don't just think that money's for free agent signings. 250 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: It's for your draft class and for your undrafted and 251 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: for your prede squat. It's lengthy. 252 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Brandon Bean reminded us at the Combine when 253 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: we had him on the show. He also said, Hey, 254 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: we're trying to clear cap space also for injuries that 255 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: we could have in the twenty twenty four season. 256 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: We have to have room. 257 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: To be able to make moves, to be able to 258 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: trade for players if we have injuries on this roster. 259 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: Good thing they did that last season and know to 260 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: do that every single year because last season several players 261 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: got injured. They had to go out and get Rusul Douglas. 262 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: That wasn't free money for them. So having a plan 263 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: in place to get where they need to be just 264 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: shows you what type. 265 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: Of GM that Brandon Bean is. 266 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: A Lot of that money was moved yesterday afternoon, but 267 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: it's not the end for Buffalo. 268 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: Yesterday was a big day. 269 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: In the news for the Bills with the moves they 270 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: had to make, but there's gonna be some more dot 271 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: com probably. 272 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: Yes, and then with respect and that's a good point about, 273 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: you know, having some room under the cap during the season. 274 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: Usually want about five to seven million dollars to play 275 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: with in case you have a ration of injuries and 276 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: he's signed somebody, or to Maddie's point, even if you trade, 277 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: you're taking on more salaries, so you got to fit 278 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: that too, if it's more than maybe a player you 279 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: lost or what have you. So yeah, those are considerations 280 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: that also have to be made. There were some signings 281 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: by the Bills. David Edwards re signed with the club. 282 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: For those that don't remember, he was essentially the sixth 283 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: offensive lineman all last year when they went heavy formation, 284 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: and now it looks like he's going to be in 285 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: line to really compete for a starting role with Mitch 286 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: Morse now out at center. The general reports that have 287 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: been out there are that Connor McGovern is going to 288 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: slide from left guard to center, a position he played 289 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: way back in his sophomore season at Penn State for 290 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: the entire year, played another game at center in his 291 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: junior year, but then moved to guard after that. So 292 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: he's going to go to center. I would imagine he 293 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: has competition from the likes of Alec Anderson, who knows, 294 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: maybe a draft pick is in the mix as well. 295 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: But David Edwards, just so everybody knows, was a proven 296 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: starter at guard with the La Rams for three seasons, 297 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: So this is not some newbie that they're gonna say, Okay, 298 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: I hope it works at guard. He's a proven starter there. 299 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: He just didn't need to step into the starting lineup 300 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: last year because they were healthy the whole season. No 301 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: man games lost by their starting front five. It's a 302 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: rarity and it was great that it happened, but that's 303 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: why he didn't see more of Edwards to begin. 304 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: With, and it'll be nice to see more of him 305 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: this season. The fact that he's a proven starter at 306 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: another team before coming over says a lot about what 307 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: he can do on Buffalo's team on the Bills, So 308 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't think fans should think about Mitch Morse being released. 309 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 4: Stend be like. 310 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we finally had a good offensive line 311 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: last year. 312 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: What is going on? 313 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 3: We need a good offensive line to be able to 314 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: have Josh Allen operate at his best and James Cook 315 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: operate at his best. They make these moves knowing that 316 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: Connor McGovern can fill into that center role because he 317 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: has done it before if he does it, or in 318 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: the starting job, and knowing that David Edwards is a 319 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: surefire starter and he's done it before on a team 320 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: that has has been in the playoffs and been to 321 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. 322 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I'll be the first to agree 323 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: that playing center in college is not the same as 324 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: playing center in the NFL. You know, there's a lot 325 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: more you got to worry about, whether it's project protections, 326 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: line calls, make an adjustments pre snap, but the fact 327 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: that he has played it. And it should also be 328 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: mentioned that offensive line coach Aaron Cromer frequently cross trains 329 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: his offensive lineman. You don't just play guard guard. You 330 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: don't just play center. You don't just play tackle. You 331 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: either play tackle and guard or you play guard and center. 332 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: And I think McGovern all last year in practice, they 333 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: used to have four guys snap at practice every day, 334 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: especially in training camp when you have more bodies, and 335 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: one of those four was Connor McGovern every single day 336 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: at the beginning of practice. So they keep guys sharp 337 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: for a reason. And I think, you know, as the 338 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: cap situation became clearer and some of the moves they 339 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: were going to need to make, I think, you know, 340 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: getting all those snaps in for him, even in a 341 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: practice setting, was done with a purpose, presumably primarily for injury. 342 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: In case you have a rash of injuries, you can 343 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: slide somebody over. But this is, you know, I think 344 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: this is there was a plan, a contingency plan, granted, 345 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: but a plan nonetheless. And I think he'll get some 346 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: competition from Alec Anderson, who's a young li that they've 347 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: been bringing along the last two years. He played right 348 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: tackle at UCLA. He was an undrafted signing of the 349 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: Bills two years ago, and he made the practice squad 350 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: as a rookie, made the roster last year, but again 351 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: because there were no injuries, never barely dressed for games. 352 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 2: He was often inactive. But there are people in the 353 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: pipeline that they are getting ready to play larger roles, 354 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: and Alec Anderson is an undrafted player who's an example 355 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: on offense. Kingsley Jonathan is an undrafted player who's going 356 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: to be an example on defense. I think that guy's 357 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: going to play in games this year as a rotational 358 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: pass Rusher. So they have some people in the pipeline, 359 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: but they do have a lot of holes to fill. 360 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: Do Fortunately they have eleven picks because they're going to 361 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: need to use all of them. And will they come 362 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: out with eleven players, Probably not. They'll probably use some 363 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: to move up in certain areas where they feel they 364 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: can take advantage of a prospect. But yeah, it's I 365 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: know it feels like a Baron roster, but just trust 366 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: the process. 367 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: Chris, let me ask you this question. 368 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: I know that these moves yesterday saved the Bills quite 369 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: a bit of money that they needed to save to 370 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: be able to become cap compliant here in just less 371 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: than a week now March thirteenth, the beginning of the 372 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: new league year, the start of free agency. We know 373 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: these moves are for immediate, an immediate fix to get 374 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: under the cap. But do you see some of these 375 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: moves being helpful for the Bills in the future. 376 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: Yes, because some of the restructures that they did didn't 377 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: completely cripple the twenty five and the twenty six cap. 378 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: Some of this pushing money into the future put them 379 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: in this position right now. I don't think Brandon Bean 380 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: enjoyed it at all, but he knew it was necessary 381 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: if he wanted to avoid repeating it in twenty five 382 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: or in twenty six. So I think the way they 383 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: crafted some of these restructures, they didn't push a lot 384 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: of money into the future. And I think an example 385 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: of that could be the mcgovernory structure and a couple 386 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: of the others. They helped give themselves some space, but 387 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: they didn't do it at a cost to the twenty 388 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: five and the twenty six cap, which I think should 389 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: allow them to have a little more freedom next year 390 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 2: in free agency and maybe even the year after. It's 391 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 2: kind of hard to predict two years into the future, 392 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: but I think they'll be in much better shape next 393 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: offseason than they were this year. So and look, I 394 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: know a lot of people out there were like, Wow, 395 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: we wouldn't have to release all these players if it 396 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: wasn't for the von Miller contract. It goes a lot 397 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: deeper than that. We're still feeling the ripple effects of 398 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: the COVID year when the cap went down over fifteen 399 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: million dollars. Like you're projecting as a GM for the 400 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: cap to go up every year because it's average ten 401 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: to twelve million, and this year fortunately went up a 402 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: lot more than that, But you're projecting that when you're 403 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: building contracts out on a long term deal and stuff 404 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: like that, and then all of a sudden COVID hits 405 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: and the cap goes in reverse. That screwed up everybody's books. 406 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, the bills to their credit adjusted. 407 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: But I think what we saw yesterday was also a 408 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: ripple effect from twenty twenty. Yes, the von Miller contract 409 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: was a component of it, but they went and restructured 410 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: that as well, and fortunately Vaughn was willing to kind 411 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: of help out as well. And I like what they've 412 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: done and a lot of the ways that they've structured 413 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: some of these deals. And I don't want to get 414 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: deep in the weeds on restructures. Just know that their 415 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: twenty five cap and their twenty six cap wasn't adversely 416 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: affected in a really negative way going forward, So they 417 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: should be in better shape next year in the year after. 418 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's good to know. 419 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we must still be younger. 420 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of drafts. 421 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: Six, ten, eleven, when that compensatory pick comes through. Good 422 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: to know that they may be in a better place 423 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: with less money. They'll have to move around ahead of 424 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six. And it's also 425 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: great to know that there's guys on the roster like 426 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: von Miller who are willing to talk with Brandon Bean about, hey, 427 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: let's move some money around here. I know, summary structures, 428 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: you're taking more money right away, but von Miller being 429 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: willing to work with our general manager on that. You 430 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: got to have people that are willing to come to 431 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: the table and understand the greater plan and understand the 432 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: goals that the team has at large. 433 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is some news also concerning the Bills and 434 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: a free agent player. There are reports NFL networks Ian 435 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: Rapiport reporting the Bills are hosting free agent defensive tackle 436 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: Fully fought Atkasi visited with the Texans yesterday and the 437 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: reason why is he was released by the Jaguars earlier 438 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: this week. So he is, for all intents and purposes, 439 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: a free agent olt on the market right now. You know, 440 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: six four three eighteen, known primarily as a run plugger, 441 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 2: but an overachiever for them part throughout his NFL career, 442 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: and I think that appeals to Buffalo. Sometimes you wonder 443 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: about what it is in terms of the intestinal fortitude 444 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: of a player. We know the Bill's DNA involves somebody 445 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: that's willing to grind, whether it's week one or week seventeen, 446 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: and I think Fadokasi fills that bill, so I understand 447 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: why he's an attractive player for Buffalo. So we'll have 448 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: to see. Because some of these free agents, they have 449 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: an advantage now, Maddie, the rest of the market isn't 450 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: out there, So now you've got a little time here 451 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: before the market opens or the legal tampering period opens 452 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: on the eleventh to kind of really survey the landscape 453 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: and take what you feel is the best deal because 454 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: you're not competing with the rest of the league for 455 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: the dollars that are left out there. So getting cut 456 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: early sometimes can be an advantage, as Mitch Trubisky found out, 457 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, based on the report, it's there. So yeah, 458 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: and we know they need to fill those holes. They've 459 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: got eight free agents on their defensive line. It's only 460 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: four defensive linemen under contract that were on the roster 461 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: last year, so I'm not surprised they're getting to work 462 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: early on that, or at least trying to. 463 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: And Folly Podokowski has played in seventy five games over 464 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: his career, started in fifty two, he has four and 465 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 3: a half sacks, one hundred and sixty three total tackles, 466 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: and nineteen quarterback hits. He spent the past two seasons 467 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: with Jacksonville Jaguars and started his career with the New 468 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: York Jets. 469 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so be interesting to see what happens there, But 470 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: there is interest from other clubs, including Houston. The only 471 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 2: other thing that we should mention here is, and this 472 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: is kind of an around the NFL note, but more 473 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: safeties are hitting the free agent market. Jordan Poyter was 474 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: won yesterday, as we know, we saw Pittsburgh released safety 475 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Kean O'Neil, although he finished the season on injured reserve 476 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: and he was designated failed physical, so when he'll be 477 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: ready and signing in free agency might be a little 478 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: bit up in the air. But the Denver Broncos released 479 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: arguably the best safety in the game right now, Justin Simmons. 480 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: So an already flooded free agents safety market has even 481 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: more talent in the pool right now. 482 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 5: So it's. 483 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see what the safety market looks 484 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: like in terms of the money players are going to command. Now, 485 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: I think a guy like Xavier McKinney or Justin Simmons 486 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: are going to be able to get big money. Beyond 487 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: guys like that, though, I think the money is going 488 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: to be below the market what a lot of people 489 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: are looking for, similar to last year. So I was 490 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: saying this to Steve when we were on the show 491 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: together a little over a week ago. Maddie, it's almost 492 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: like the safety has become the running back position of 493 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: the defense. It's been devalued precipitously, and I think it's 494 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: only going to continue here in free agency this spring. 495 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, Brownie, And that's good for 496 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: the Bills thinking about how little they may be able 497 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: to spend in free agency and how many more holes 498 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: there are on the defensive line. Yes, you do have 499 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: to fill out that safety position now that they've released 500 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 3: Jordan Poyer, and you know Micah Hyde is set to 501 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: become a free agent. 502 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: Taylor Rapp reportedly sign reselling with the Bills. So that's good. 503 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: So you have one guy there, DeMar Hamlin as well, 504 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: one player reserve future guy and Cam lewis also set 505 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: to become a free agent. But why this is good 506 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: for Buffalo is that if a couple of the top 507 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: guys are the only guys that get paid, that's going 508 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: to push some names and some players down to where 509 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: the Bills, among other teams may be sitting at waiting. Okay, 510 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: can we pay X for this name? 511 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: And it may be a. 512 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: Popular name, it may be a name that we've heard before, 513 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: maybe a productive name that can come in and help 514 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: guy like Taylor Rap. 515 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jeremy Chin is a twenty six year 516 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: old player and ending the prime of his career. I 517 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: don't know if he gets giant money. Gino Stone had 518 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: a great season with the Ravens. I don't know if 519 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: he's gonna get giant money. I think he'll get a 520 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: good contract. I don't know if it's going to hit 521 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: the dollar figure he was hoping for. Jordan Whitehead could 522 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: be an affordable player up in his twenties, a little 523 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: bit older, but a reliable veteran player. Cameron Curl kind 524 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: of more of a Taylor Rap type player, physical player, 525 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: but the market is flooded with safety talent. You wonder 526 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: if you just let the first wave of the dust settle, 527 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: if Brandon Bean can swoop in and get a veteran 528 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: at an affordable price and hopefully get Cam Lewis back 529 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: at you know, a bargain basement price, knowing that he 530 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: essentially for his entire career in Buffalo has been a 531 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: backup player, but a versatile one and a valuable one 532 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: not only on defense but on special teams. So yeah, 533 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a very interesting safety market come free 534 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: agency time. Want to get the topic of discussion out 535 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: to you today right now. We knew these decisions that 536 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: we saw were gonna have to be made in some 537 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: form or fashion. How did Wednesday's roster moves by the 538 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: Bills make you feel? Eighth three five point fifty one 539 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: eight eight eighty five point fifty two five point fifty 540 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: and we will open up the phone lines when we return. 541 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but we'll lead off 542 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: with Bill. We'll get to Rick and Chuck as well 543 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by 544 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome 545 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Matty glab with you. 546 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: A day after some major moves to Buffalo's roster, both 547 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: subtractions and editions, one edition that we didn't mention was 548 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: punter Matt Hawk was signed to a one year deal. Yes, 549 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: Sam Martin is still on the roster, so'll be interesting 550 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: to see if this is a move to create competition 551 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: at training camp or if this could be leading to 552 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: another move to save some money on the roster in 553 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 2: terms of cap, because moving on from Sam Martin, if 554 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: that is something they're considering, I believe would save them 555 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: about eight hundred thousand dollars on the cap. But they 556 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: may not need to do that. Maybe it's just to 557 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: create competition in training camp going forward. So for those 558 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: that don't remember, he got signed during the playoffs after 559 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: Sam Martin pulled his hamstring in the Pittsburgh playoff game 560 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: running after a block kick. They weren't sure if he's 561 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: gonna be ready, so they signed Hawk just in case 562 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: and then released him right before the game. Come in. 563 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: We might need you, we don't need you. 564 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was here for a hot minute before Sam 565 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: Martin was able to continue on with but he was. 566 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: The punter before Sam Martin here with the Bills, so 567 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: this is yet another return stint for him. But we 568 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: want to get to the phones at eight oh three, 569 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight fifty the number to 570 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: get on board. We kind of knew some of these 571 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: kinds of moves would be coming, but how did Wednesday's 572 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: roster moves by the Bills make you feel? Eight h 573 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: three zero five to fifty got an open line for you. 574 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: One eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. But let's 575 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: lead off with Bill in old Forge today. What do 576 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: you got for his bill? 577 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 6: Hey, guys? First off, Pale Rapp's a good player, but 578 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: he's definitely not Poyer and Hide on the back end, 579 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: especially in pass coverage. He comes down hill, he's a 580 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 6: hard hitter, but on pass coverage he's more of a 581 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 6: liability back there than than Poyer and Hyde. You did 582 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 6: not score touchdowns on them over the top rarely ever. 583 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 6: But my I'm calling about the Von Miller contract. Do 584 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: you think that being has learned his lesson like after this? 585 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 6: It's one of the worst contracts in NFL history. There's 586 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 6: no way around it. It's been terrible for the Bills. 587 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 6: It's an albatross around their neck. He could have signed 588 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 6: younger players like a Hassan Redick, somebody who was on 589 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 6: the up. He could signed two guys to contracts compared 590 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 6: to what they're paying von Miller. It's been terrible for them. 591 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 6: I was hoping for Mario Williams type numbers. I wasn't 592 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 6: expecting it, being that he came up that knee injury 593 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 6: with the Rams when he was there. Why did he 594 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 6: sign an old, aging player? And this is the worst 595 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 6: part of it now we still have to address because 596 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 6: they thought this was going to be the panacea, that 597 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 6: von Miller was going to be the panacea to fix 598 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 6: all the miss picks that they've used in the first 599 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 6: two rounds on defensive lineman. Now we're right back to 600 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 6: where we were because we may have to draft again 601 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 6: edge pass rusher instead of getting Alan possibly a receiver 602 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 6: in the first round, which I want. There's so many 603 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 6: gaping holes on this team right now. But my question 604 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 6: is do you think being learned a lesson is I'm 605 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 6: hoping he does never, never again throws money like this 606 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 6: in an aging old player rather than so set like 607 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 6: signing maybe two guys that are on the up at 608 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 6: their first contract, like a Haasan Redik who's putting up 609 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 6: huge sack numbers. 610 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, I mean, Bill, I'm guessing you're 611 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: and thanks for the call. I'm guessing you're basing that 612 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: question on what you feel the team has gotten from 613 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: von Miller, which is far less than they anticipated. I mean, 614 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: we have to remember at the time that von Miller 615 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: was signed in free agency, he was coming off a 616 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl victory in which he played a major role 617 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: in helping put the Rams over the top to win 618 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, after being acquired mid season before the 619 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: trade deadline, and I think he had eight sacks and 620 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: eight games for them. I think he had two sacks, 621 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: at least one sack in the Super Bowl, maybe two 622 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: in the championship game. I'm thinking I might have that backwards, 623 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: but I remember him having a two sack game. It 624 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 2: was either the NFC Title Game or the Super Bowl 625 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: on Joe Burrow. Either way, enormously productive at age thirty 626 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: three and defying age for all intents and purposes. So 627 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: coming off of that, his value was enormous, and unbeknownst 628 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 2: to them, he was interested in the Bills despite winning 629 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with the Rams, and so I think 630 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: what Brandon Bean saw was a golden opportunity for what 631 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: he viewed as a player who just put the Rams 632 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: over the top, capable of putting the Bills over the 633 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: top because one of the problems they had was their 634 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: inability to get to the quarterback. That was the issue. 635 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: No pass pressure. Now you look at Vaughan's first season. Here, 636 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: the guy had eight sacks in ten games and then 637 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: tears his ACL and that's when the whole plan went 638 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: to hell in a handbasket. You can't be afraid to 639 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: Here's the thing that confounds me about Bills fans. They 640 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: want the Bills to make moves. You gotta you gotta 641 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: swing big, You gotta make a move, you gotta you 642 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: gotta do something big, noteworthy. If we're ever gonna win 643 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Brandon Bean does it. He gets the 644 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: best pass rusher in a generation. I understand, thirty three 645 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: years old, best pass rusher in a generation, on a 646 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 2: rocket ship to the Hall of Fame. When he's done, 647 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: he swings big, it doesn't work, and now they're saying, 648 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: do you regret it? I think the only thing he 649 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 2: regrets is that it didn't pan out due to injury, 650 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: and that's nobody's fault but football, because that's what the 651 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: game is. There are no guarantees, So I don't think 652 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: he regrets it. From the standpoint of what he felt 653 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: he was adding to the team, which was the final 654 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: piece to put them over the top. Because if he 655 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: stays healthy, who knows how the twenty twenty two season ends. 656 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: Forget about twenty twenty three. So I understand it's frustrating. 657 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 2: It was a big contract, There's no doubt about it. 658 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: But von Miller just reportedly agreed to a restructure of 659 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: that deal which helps the team. Now, So I mean, 660 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: does he regret it? Did he learn his lesson? I mean, okay, 661 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: maybe you want to invest in younger players. I can 662 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: respect that opinion. I can, But where this team was. 663 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: I think they felt they were one dominant pass rusher 664 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: away from putting them over the top, and that's what 665 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: the investment was made. It didn't work. Nothing you can do. 666 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you have that big gaping hole of 667 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: this is what you haven't been able to do in 668 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: the playoffs. This is what you need to do. You 669 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: need to get after the quarterback. You need to get 670 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: after Patrick Mahomes. They signed somebody who does exactly that 671 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: and who did it in the Super Bowl at a 672 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 3: very high level. 673 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 4: They made the move. 674 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: You can't predict that somebody's gonna get injured a season 675 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: intwo playing with a new team, and hopefully this season the. 676 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: Story's different for von Miller. 677 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: Hopefully this season he shot out of a cannon in 678 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 3: Week one, he stays healthy for a full season. He 679 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: gives the Bills what they need, what they want. Eight 680 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 3: sacks in his first season with the team is a 681 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 3: good number. We didn't have that this past season, but 682 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 3: hopefully we have it this upcoming season. 683 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: And he only played twelve games that year. I mean 684 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: he's injured on Thanksgiving, so guy din't even play a 685 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: full season. He had eighty six which tied for the 686 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: league the team lead at the end of the season 687 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 2: with Greg Russau that year. I think there's still some 688 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: gas left in that tank. I think Vaughan is motivated 689 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: by the fact that people have written him off. So 690 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 2: hopefully the extra time this offseason will bring him back 691 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: to as close to what he was and you know, 692 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: the Bills can get value out of that this year. Look, 693 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: when something like that you got great expectations and then 694 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't work, it's disappointing for everybody. But that doesn't 695 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: mean you don't take a swing. And you got to 696 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: give being credit for taking a big swing here. The 697 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: only shame of it is that injury compromised the plan. 698 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: Uh eight oh three h five fifty the number to 699 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: get on board. Let's go to Rick in cast Dile next. 700 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: What do you got Rick? 701 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 7: Hi, Chris and Maddy, how are you doing well? 702 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: Thanks? 703 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 7: I have a few comments to start now. My father 704 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 7: was an original season ticket holder back in the rock Pile. 705 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 7: I started going with him when I was nine years old, 706 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 7: back in sixty three. I still have of those tickets. 707 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 7: We sit on the fifty yard line currently. The bills 708 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 7: are in my blood, always have been. I've listened to 709 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 7: your show daily record it so many times. I can't 710 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 7: call in because I'm watching it at nighttime, but I 711 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 7: thoroughly enjoy I'm sorry that that Steve isn't there, because 712 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 7: I love it when somebody calls in and says something 713 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 7: totally asinine, and and then he gets all excited to 714 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 7: start talking with his hands. That little vane pops out 715 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 7: of his format and he's off and running okay, And 716 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 7: then usually Chris, you try to calm him down, and 717 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 7: you give a lot of detailed information, which is excellent. 718 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 7: And I know you've been a part of the bills 719 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 7: broadcast for quite some time, so you know, you know 720 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 7: a lot of the history as well as far as 721 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 7: today's question was concerned. I have the utmost continent, confidence 722 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 7: and Bean and the rest of the staff there to 723 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 7: evaluate players. And unfortunately, when you get good, you have 724 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 7: to pay people, and then you got to make very 725 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 7: tough decisions on how to stay under the cap. I 726 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 7: like the fact they re signed RAP and then you 727 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 7: know a few other people the other day, David Edwards 728 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 7: they signed to a contract, you know a few others. 729 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 7: Unfortunately they had to get rid of Mitch Morris and 730 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 7: Jordan Poyer and and then a guy who got hurt 731 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 7: right away, Nii Hines. But I I enjoy listening to 732 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 7: your comments and so I'll just I'll just hang up 733 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 7: and listen some more. Thanks for taking my call. 734 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the kind words as well. I'll say this, Maddie. 735 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: I we haven't talked much about the Rap signing, and 736 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: to me, I don't know how you see it, but 737 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: for me, I kind of view it as a signing 738 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,720 Speaker 2: pointing towards continuity. You have two vacant starting safety spots, 739 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: and you have two players in free agency in Cam Lewis, 740 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: and before these report this reported signing Taylor Rapp, who 741 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 2: know the defense backwards and forwards. Rapp played a little 742 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: bit of a larger role in the defense than Lewis did. 743 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: I see this as a continuity type signing because knowing 744 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: that Sean McDermott, probably knowing that he's going to have 745 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: two brand new safeties in the starting lineup this season, 746 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: if he can have one that already has a year 747 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 2: vested in the defense, I think he sees value in that, 748 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: and I think that's what the appeal was in the 749 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: reports that you know rap is now back under contract. 750 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. 751 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: He played in all sixteen games last season, started in four, 752 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 3: had an interception, forty five tackles, two passes. 753 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 4: Defense, so. 754 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 3: He did to have some time on the field and 755 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 3: he did make some big plays for this team. I 756 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: would assume it's the same thing. You know, you would 757 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: want somebody who knows this defense, who knows how it operates, 758 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 3: who can teach two new guys coming in or however 759 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: many new guys come into the safety group and safety 760 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: position this season, because as we hear lots of players say, 761 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 3: it's not an easy defense to learn. 762 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are base rules that they can 763 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: fall back on to kind of help them when maybe 764 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: they don't know exactly what's going on. But yes, and 765 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 2: then I think the other thing too, that people because 766 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: we heard one of the other callers basically say, hey, 767 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: I don't like him in the coverage, that's his weakness. 768 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be more of the Jordan 769 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: Poyer type of the safety tandem. If you want to 770 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 2: argue that you don't think he's as interchangeable as Poyer 771 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 2: is from a coverage and then run support standpoint, I'll 772 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 2: listen to that. But I anticipate he is going to 773 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: probably be the strong safety. And so what the Bills 774 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: need now is finding a center fielder who can cover 775 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: the d path. Although the Bills and a lot of 776 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: other teams these days play so much split safety that 777 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: you you almost don't even need a rangey safety all 778 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: that much anymore. So be interesting to see how they 779 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: choose to attack it. We are up against the break here, 780 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: but we will lead off with Chuck in West Seneca 781 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: and others holding it aight O three five fifty When 782 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 2: we return. How did Wednesday's roster moves by the Bills 783 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: make you feel. At three five fifty, we're back with 784 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. Next here on One Bill's Live. 785 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: Stay tuned to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Maddi lab 786 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 2: with you on a Thursday edition of the show, and 787 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 2: we are asking you how did Wednesday's roster moves by 788 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: the Bills make you feel? We also want to tell 789 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: you that, through their partnership with the Buffalo Bills and 790 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: the Safety First campaign, National Grid is committed to donating 791 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: ten one thousand dollars to the one hundred Club of Buffalo. 792 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: This was made possible by fifty dollars donations per tackle 793 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: by Bill Safeties this past season. Jordan Poyer, as we know, 794 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 2: let all Bill Safeties with one hundred and one combined 795 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: tackles in twenty twenty three. A portion of the ten 796 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: thousand dollars donation to the one hundred Club of Buffalo, 797 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: which supports first responders in their families, will be used 798 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: to support families who lost the loved one in the 799 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: line of duty. The remainder will fund scholarships for children 800 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 2: of first responders and provide training for local police and 801 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 2: fire departments. So good job, National Grid let's get back 802 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: to the phones. So at eight three to five to fifty, 803 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: waiting patiently there to lead us off, Chuck in West Seneca. 804 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: What do you got for us? 805 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 8: Chuck? 806 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 9: Happy Thursday, guys, Thanks for taking my call. Sure, I'm 807 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 9: kind of a mixed bag on this because, hey, if 808 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 9: you were to tell me that going in the next season, 809 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 9: our defensive backfield is going to be Douglas Benford, Taron Johnson, 810 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 9: Rapp and whoever else fills that void, I mean, I 811 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 9: think that's great. You know, I think we're in a 812 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 9: really good position back there. Defensive back is a strength 813 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 9: of our head coach. You know, we've seen what he 814 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 9: can do when reaching into the bottom of the depth chart. 815 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 9: He can still you know, get the best out of 816 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 9: our defense, especially the defensive beats. What really questions me, 817 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 9: and I mean this is a continued trend with this regime, 818 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 9: is just the knee jerk reactions we have when it 819 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 9: comes to making personal decisions, especially on the offensive side 820 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 9: of the ball. I do not understand the reaction of 821 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 9: immediately moving McGovern to center. You know, you have at 822 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 9: least a list of you know, decent free agent centers 823 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 9: out there, all younger that could grow with our franchise quarterback. 824 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 9: You know, think like Manning and Saturday, I mean even 825 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 9: Kelly and Hull. You know, having continuity between your center 826 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 9: and quarterback is so important. Looking to the draft, there's 827 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 9: at least a good half dozen centers that we should 828 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 9: be looking to as we select with our first or second, 829 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 9: maybe third round pick, and again, let him grow with 830 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 9: our quarterback. I mean, I don't really know what the 831 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 9: thought process is behind all this. Who's making this decision, 832 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 9: If it's our head coach, I mean, I would just 833 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 9: like to know where it's coming from. And again, it 834 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 9: just seems very knee jerk, and I just don't understand 835 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 9: how this is going to help our offense. So I'll 836 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 9: hang up and listen. 837 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: Yep, Sure thing, Chuck. First thing I would say is, 838 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 2: do not accept it as the end all be all 839 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 2: for the answer at center. I think they believe Connor 840 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: McGovern can play that position and play it effectively, and 841 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 2: he's a veteran player that has played the position before, 842 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 2: so all of those things point them in that direction. 843 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 2: I also think they think a lot of David Edwards 844 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: as a starting guard in this league, and so I 845 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: think the transition is one they field McGovern can handle. Now, again, 846 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean they're not bringing in competition, whether it's 847 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: a free agent, a draft choice, or something else somewhere 848 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 2: along the line here, you know, in terms of the 849 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: free agent market or what have you. So just because 850 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: you saw it reported that the plan is to slide 851 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 2: McGovern over to center and David Edwards the left guard 852 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's going to end up that way come September. 853 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean, for all we know, could be McGovern right 854 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: back out at left guard because somebody else that they 855 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 2: acquired between now in September was a revelation at center, 856 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 2: and it's somebody that you just described. Maybe it's a 857 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: draft choice in round three or four. Maybe it's somebody 858 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: that they got in free agency who's flat out, you know, 859 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: beat McGovern to the position in the starting lineup. So 860 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take it as a rubber stamp that McGovern's 861 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 2: you're starting center for twenty twenty four. Could it happen, Yeah, 862 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 2: it might even be better than fifty to fifty chants 863 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 2: of it happening. But I wouldn't write it off yet. 864 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: In Penn, I would put it in pencil right. 865 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 3: Now, knowing Sean McDermott and how he operates. He always 866 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 3: wants competition at every single position group and for positions 867 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 3: during training camp. So you gotta believe he's going to 868 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 3: bring in competition if it's not on the roster already, 869 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 3: especially if Connor McGovern is moving into his first year 870 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 3: as a full time starter in the center position for 871 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 3: the Bills, if that's what they're imagining him as according 872 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 3: to these reports, you better believe he's going to compete 873 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 3: with somebody. 874 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 4: Sean McDermott doesn't hand anybody. 875 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: A starting job on this roster, so for him and 876 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 3: David Edwards, there is going to be competition there. 877 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 4: Will they win the starting job. 878 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 3: We'll see come training camp, but I wouldn't say it's 879 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 3: officially yet. 880 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing to think about too is 881 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 2: you don't know what goes on behind closed doors here. 882 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 2: What is the input from Josh Allen in this subject, 883 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 2: because it impacts him obviously in a big way, And 884 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: we don't know if if there's been time spent on 885 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: the practice field with McGovern and Allan in some capacity, 886 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: and maybe Josh is encouraged by some of the brief 887 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: experience he may have had on the practice field with 888 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 2: McGovern and what he can do and what he can offer. Now, 889 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm just speculating because those are the times in practice 890 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 2: that we are not privy to watch. But I think 891 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: it's something to consider this. No decisions are made here 892 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 2: without long, methodical and careful thought. Sean McDermott doesn't operate 893 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 2: any other way. He doesn't make a willy nilly decision 894 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 2: because I don't think he knows how to. He does 895 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: not make a decision without painstakingly combing through every detail, 896 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 2: unintended consequence, who it impacts, and how it affects his 897 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: team first and foremost. So I can promise you that 898 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: once they realized this cap move had to be made 899 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 2: with Mitch Morse, there was long and arduous thought about 900 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 2: what the next best step would be to fill the position. 901 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 2: Trust me, we're gonna squeeze Mike in real quick here 902 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 2: before the break, we got Mike and Marilla. What do 903 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 2: you got for his Mike? 904 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 10: Hi, how are you guys doing today? 905 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: Doing well? Thanks? 906 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 10: Okay? A couple of things. Number One, it's a very 907 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 10: emotional day. I loved Trey White, and to lose him, 908 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 10: I think he's I think he's just one of the 909 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 10: faces of the franchise for the last six seven years, 910 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 10: Miss Morris. That was a big surprise to me. I 911 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 10: wonder how Josh Allen feels about that. And lastly, I 912 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 10: really believe that von Miller is going to end up 913 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 10: with twenty six sacks in the next two years. As 914 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 10: long as he stays healthy, he is going to be 915 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 10: a Pro Bowler. He's going to be an All Pro 916 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 10: and you're going to see him just like he was 917 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 10: when he played for the Rams. As long as he's healthy. 918 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 10: He wants the Bills to win a Super Bowl and 919 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 10: he is going to put it just like Josh Allen. 920 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 10: He's gonna put the Bills on his shoulders and you're 921 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 10: gonna watch this guy really perform this year. I can 922 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 10: guarantee it a great day. 923 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate the positivity, Mike. I do. I will just 924 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: give you numbers for facts and you can take take 925 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 2: it for what it's worth. The last time von Miller 926 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 2: had more than thirteen sacks in a season was twenty eighteen, 927 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: when he played the whole season. Now, granted, you know 928 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: his last season with the Broncos did not play a 929 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 2: full season, so you know you could take it with 930 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: a grain of salt. But yeah, I mean, look, if 931 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 2: he has that kind of production, people will be over 932 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 2: the moon. Brandon Bean will be first in line. But 933 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how realistic that is. 934 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 2: We'll have to see what he looks like in training camp. 935 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 2: But he is a freaking nature I know that. And 936 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 2: then just quickly concerning Tredavius, Yes, you're right. He was 937 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: a cornerstone player for this organization, well liked, beloved by 938 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 2: both teammates and fans alike. So it is hard to 939 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: see people like that be taken off the roster. And 940 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, I know you had a tight relationship with 941 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: Mitch Morris, Maddie. You guys had the University of Missouri connection, 942 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 2: that whole thing, and you guys on this team called 943 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 2: him Dad. 944 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 3: I know, we graduated in the same class in twenty fourteen. 945 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 3: I got to cover Mitch at Miszoo when I was there. 946 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: We were the same year. And it's tough to see 947 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 3: somebody like that walk out these doors. He's got an 948 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 3: incredible wife who is also an athlete at. 949 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 4: MISSOO, two cute, cute children. 950 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 3: That family is amazing, and it's tough to see people 951 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 3: like that, go people that you've made connections with, fans 952 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 3: who have made connections with these players. But you got 953 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 3: to believe that Brandon and Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, 954 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 3: we're not clapping. 955 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 4: And excited to make these moves. 956 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 3: They are just as hurt by these moves as we 957 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 3: are because they're players that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott 958 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 3: went after it and sought out and wanted on this 959 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 3: roster and also built some really tight connections with And 960 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 3: it's hard to move on from guys that you've made 961 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 3: relationships with that that won't leave you. It's not easy 962 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 3: to do it. It's a business decision at the end 963 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 3: of the day. The NFL is a business and they 964 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 3: have to make these hard decisions. But I'm sure they're 965 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 3: bummed out about it as well, and I'm sure they're 966 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 3: just as hurt as we are because they really liked 967 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: some of those guys, all of the guys that they 968 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 3: had to release. 969 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 2: Break time for us here, Our number two will begin 970 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: with more of your phone calls. We'll lead off with 971 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 2: Todd and Hamburg. We'll get to Jack and Jeff as well, 972 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 2: but we got some open lines for you at eight 973 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty, how did Wednesday's roster moves 974 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 2: by the Bills make you feel? We know what had 975 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 2: to be done, but the moves sometimes are still tough 976 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: to accept. You let us know. At eight oh three 977 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 2: oh five fifty, we're back for hour number two next 978 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 2: year on One Bill's Live. 979 00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Hell. 980 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 2: All right, here we are for hour number two on 981 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: a Thursday. Chris Brown, Matty Glab with you, and we're 982 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: talking about Wednesday's seismic moves to Buffalo's roster. Both subtractions, 983 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 2: more the subtractions than the additions in terms of name value. 984 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, how did those moves make you feel? You 985 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 2: knew the Bill's roster had to get younger, you knew 986 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 2: there were going to be some difficult salary cap decisions. 987 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 2: How did those moves leave you feeling? Eight oh three 988 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two 989 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: five point fifty. Gonna jump right back on the phone 990 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 2: lines and to Todd in Hamburg. Next, what's up? Todd? 991 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 8: Hi, good lasting noon, Thank you? Sure, Yeah, I'm really 992 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 8: confused about the whole situation. I'm suffering too. A little 993 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 8: bit as that Bill's fan. But honestly, if everybody's talking 994 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 8: about the draft or the fresh round receiver, but honestly, 995 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 8: if you look at our playoff losses was on defense. Now, 996 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 8: as McDermott as a defensive coordinator, I'm going defense, lack 997 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,959 Speaker 8: of safetyes and cornerbacks. And then you let your number 998 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 8: one draft pick in twenty seventeen, McDermott's first round draft pick, 999 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 8: t Davis Waite, you let him go. Thom Miller basically 1000 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 8: had the same injury he did. I just don't understand. 1001 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think Todd, you're forgetting the fact that well, 1002 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 2: first of all, von Miller had an ACL injury. That 1003 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: was the injury that Trudavious White came back from last season. 1004 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 2: And then in Week four he ruptured his achilles, So 1005 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 2: in ACL followed by an achilles again. I don't want 1006 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: to be the one to doubt Tredavius White, but for 1007 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 2: a lot of players in this league, that's a death 1008 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 2: blow to your career to have two major injuries like that, 1009 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 2: almost back to back. Because what did he play? He 1010 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 2: played the last six regular season games in twenty two, 1011 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 2: the first four in twenty three, and he played in 1012 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 2: two playoff games, so he played in twelve games between 1013 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 2: the two major injuries. It's just horrible, bad luck. But 1014 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be very hard for Trudeavius 1015 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: White to be the player that he was. Again, I'm 1016 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 2: the last person to doubt Trudavius White, because I know 1017 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 2: what's up here and what's in his gut in terms 1018 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: of being the competitor that he is. We've seen enough 1019 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 2: of it here. But the timing of the injury was 1020 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 2: bad because we don't even know if he would be 1021 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: ready for the start of this regular season healthy. We 1022 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: don't even know that, and I would say it's probably 1023 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: more likely that he's not ready to play football in September. 1024 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 2: And so that coupled with the fact that you had 1025 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: to make a decision to be cap compliant six days 1026 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 2: from now, the timing those two things did not work, 1027 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 2: and so you had to make the decision to move 1028 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 2: him off your roster. And this won't take effect as 1029 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 2: we know until June. First six million savings now another 1030 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: four million later. But it just wasn't gonna work. And 1031 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 2: I think that became obvious to everybody that had to 1032 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 2: make that decision that while they probably didn't want to 1033 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 2: do it. They really were left with no choice. They 1034 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 2: had to make a decision before March thirteenth. Trey, you 1035 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 2: don't even know if he's gonna be ready in September. 1036 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 2: And he's missed thirty games the last three seasons. That's 1037 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: what is that fifty one games? He's missed thirty of 1038 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 2: them the last three years. It's just for the price 1039 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,919 Speaker 2: tag that he was commanding, it just was not sustainable. 1040 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 2: And this is a guy that's restructured his contract a 1041 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: couple of times before because of his lack of availability 1042 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 2: due to injuries. So it was not sustainable. It's unfortunate, 1043 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: and he's an example of why NFL careers on average 1044 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 2: last three and a half seasons, because it doesn't matter 1045 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 2: how hours you work, how much you work at your craft, 1046 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: injuries can compromise the longevity of a player's career. And 1047 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: I hope Tredevius at White is not an example of that, 1048 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 2: but I think in light of these last two injuries, 1049 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 2: he could be. 1050 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, people say NFL stands for not for long. You 1051 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 3: hear a lot of players in this league say exactly that. 1052 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 3: And the savings of ten point two million dollars is 1053 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: what they're reporting in total for Tredevius White is a. 1054 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 4: Big time number. 1055 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 3: Not saying that Trey isn't worth those ten million dollars, 1056 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 3: but the injury and timing, like you said, Chris, just 1057 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 3: did not line up at all. And this is a 1058 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 3: day that proves the salary cap is real. And I 1059 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 3: know for a lot of fans it doesn't make sense 1060 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 3: because of the roles that these players had on this roster, 1061 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 3: both on the community, in the locker room and on 1062 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 3: the field. But when you have to become cap compliant, 1063 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 3: you have to make moves like this, and they entered 1064 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 3: yesterday with forty two million of money over the cap 1065 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 3: that they had to clear before the start of the 1066 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 3: new league year on March thirteenth. 1067 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 2: And I think maybe the best way to put it 1068 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 2: concerning Trey is I think everybody in the organization, in 1069 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 2: the personnel department and the coaching staff probably for that matter, 1070 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 2: wanted to see and was eager to know if Trey 1071 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 2: could come back from that, but they just couldn't wait 1072 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 2: that long because of the cap implications of his contract, 1073 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 2: and that's what, as Mattie said, just did not line up. 1074 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 2: So that's the situation as far as that goes, we 1075 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 2: do have it official now. Mitchell Trubisky has signed with 1076 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 2: the Bills as a free agent. The team has made 1077 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 2: it official he has signed, so he is in line 1078 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: to once again be Buffalo's backup quarterback behind Josh Allen 1079 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 2: as he was back in twenty twenty one. The reports 1080 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 2: came out yesterday. The Bills have now made it official. 1081 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Trubisky has signed the contract, so the Bills have a 1082 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 2: backup quarterback in place going into twenty twenty four. So 1083 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 2: that is now official. Let's move on to Jack in 1084 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 2: cheek Towaga. What's up Jack? 1085 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 11: Hi, guys. 1086 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 12: I guess I'll answer the how does it make me feel? Question? First, 1087 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 12: and I think my answer there is that I hate 1088 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 12: to see the loss of a captain on each side 1089 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 12: of the ball, and in total, with the releases, the 1090 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 12: loss of leadership and the team culture personalities that aren't 1091 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 12: going to be there next year. Now, I think that, 1092 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 12: you know, we're all in agreement they've got to get 1093 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 12: younger and cheaper through this draft. But before that comes up, 1094 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 12: I think what Bean does in free agency is going to, 1095 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 12: you know, determine where we go there. If the safety 1096 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 12: market is something where we can get a starting veteran 1097 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 12: as a second safety along with rafts supposedly, you know, 1098 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 12: that's great if we can bring in a defensive tackle, 1099 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 12: if that market is good in free agency at the 1100 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 12: lower tier. I think when you get to the draft, 1101 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 12: the only position that I see where a starter is 1102 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 12: going to come out of the draft is going to 1103 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 12: be in the wide receiver position. And we've lost a 1104 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 12: lot of starters, but we've got backups that we've had. 1105 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 12: Our depth was our strength the last couple of years. 1106 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 12: Some of those deaf people are going to be starters now. 1107 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 12: So where do you see this draft supplying a starter 1108 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 12: on the team other than possibly the wide receiver position. 1109 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 12: And I'll hang up and wait for your answer on that. 1110 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sure thing, Jack. A lot of stuff there. 1111 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 2: It's hard to predict it now because of what you 1112 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 2: alluded to, which is Brandon Bean and we've seen this 1113 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 2: in recent off seasons almost always tries to fill as 1114 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 2: many positional holes as possible leading up to the draft 1115 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 2: because he likes to be in a position going into 1116 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 2: the draft where he doesn't feel he has to reach 1117 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: for a position of need. He can just take the 1118 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 2: best value on the board, he's been more successful in 1119 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 2: some off seasons than others because I think we remember 1120 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 2: a few years ago, going into the twenty one No. 1121 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 2: Twenty two draft, the Bills needed a corner and everybody 1122 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 2: knew it. So they move up and they get Kyrie Elam. 1123 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 2: So there are times where maybe he doesn't cross every 1124 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 2: t or dot every eye, but he's going to do 1125 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 2: his darnedest to fill as many of those positions as possible. 1126 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 2: I would anticipate that there's a decent chance that they 1127 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 2: find a starter at the defensive tackle position, because you 1128 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 2: said anything besides wide receiver, I would say defensive tackle 1129 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 2: is a possibility, and maybe even defensive end is a possibility, 1130 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 2: although right now it's going to be hard for a 1131 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 2: defensive end prospect to unsea to Von Miller or Greg 1132 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Russeau on the edges right now who project as you're 1133 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: starting too, so we'll have to see. But I think 1134 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 2: it's tough to call now before free agency has even started. 1135 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit tough to call right now. 1136 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 3: But if I had guests too, I would say defensive 1137 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: tackle aside from wide receiver, just knowing where the depth 1138 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: is going to lie at that place in the draft 1139 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 3: of the Bill stay at number twenty eight. There should 1140 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,439 Speaker 3: be some defensive tackles available at that spot that could 1141 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 3: have starting potential for this team next season for sure. 1142 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 2: Let's move along and go to Jeff in Buffalo. Here, 1143 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 2: what do you got for us? Jeff? 1144 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 11: Hey, guys here, real quick. Yeah, that's for a at 1145 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 11: you too, real quick. The concussions of the past with 1146 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 11: with Morris, I think maybe that had a little bit 1147 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 11: to do with it. Maybe even Mitch decided, you know, 1148 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 11: he'd wrap it up himself, you know, mutually, something like that. 1149 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 11: Uh yeah, do you see him coming back. They didn't 1150 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 11: even try to extend them or you know, renegotiate anything 1151 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 11: with them. So I'm wondering how much the concussion, the 1152 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 11: past concussions had anything to do with it. Real quick, 1153 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 11: your opinion on our linebacking corps. I mean, with the 1154 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 11: Milano coming back from injury and you know how that 1155 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 11: goes well, and Bernard and Duran William and so on 1156 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 11: and so forth, where do you think we are there? 1157 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 11: Do you think that's a stable position right now? I mean, 1158 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 11: I know you always want to add a little depth, 1159 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 11: but as far as starters go, where would you create 1160 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 11: that and real quick. On the draft, you hear a 1161 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 11: lot about wide receiver wide receivers, I believe, you know, 1162 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 11: or actually if I'm a GM or you know, yeah, 1163 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 11: I want my wide receiver, but if there's another run 1164 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 11: wide receivers and I can pick up, you know, because 1165 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 11: I definitely do believe that Bills will draft a corner, 1166 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 11: you know, in the top four rounds. I think it 1167 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 11: defines a back of some type. And I don't mean safety, 1168 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 11: I mean corner. But yeah, I just your opinions on 1169 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 11: the linebacking corps and the concussions of the past with 1170 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 11: Morse and what do you think you better have to 1171 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 11: do with that? 1172 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Sure things? Jeff, thanks. Maddy and I were both there 1173 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 2: when Mitch Morse talked on locker clean out day and 1174 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,919 Speaker 2: he was asked, you know, have you considered it all 1175 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 2: stepping away from the game, you know, knowing you're getting 1176 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 2: up in years and you have a concussion history, And 1177 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 2: he basically said no, right, I mean he's like, hadn't 1178 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 2: really given that any thought plan on coming back next year? 1179 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1180 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 3: He almost seemed a little bit surprised by the answer 1181 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 3: by the question. Yeah, yeah, sorry, by the question seems 1182 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 3: surprised by the question of Okay, why are you asking 1183 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 3: this right now? I'm under contract for one more season. 1184 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 3: I can't remember who asked the question, but it was 1185 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 3: in media availability with Mitch Morse on locker cleanout day, 1186 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 3: and he's played in the NFL for nine seasons under 1187 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 3: he was under contract with Buffalo for one more season, 1188 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 3: so that would. 1189 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 4: Make it ten. I'm interested to see what happens. 1190 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,919 Speaker 3: I could totally see him wanting to play a few 1191 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 3: more seasons and going to a team that has a 1192 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 3: young quarterback and being able to pair that up with 1193 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 3: a veteran center in the league. That makes sense to me. 1194 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 3: But he also has a family and some young kids, 1195 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 3: and it would also make sense to me to want 1196 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 3: to hang the cleats up and enjoy life as a dad. 1197 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and your notion that there was nothing mutual about it. 1198 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 2: When you're set to make about ten to eleven million dollars, 1199 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 2: you're not walking away from that willingly. So I absolutely 1200 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 2: do not think it was his call. I do not 1201 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 2: think his concussion history played a part in this. I 1202 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 2: think it was purely and solely salary cap savings. He 1203 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 2: saved them eight and a half million dollars. That's a 1204 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 2: big number to eat into the even fatter number that 1205 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,919 Speaker 2: the Bills were faced with in terms of being over 1206 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,439 Speaker 2: the cap. So unfortunately, it was a straight business move 1207 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 2: as I see it, and nothing more. As for linebacker, 1208 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Manny and I talked about this last week at the Combine, 1209 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 2: it's kind of a sneaky need for the Bills. The 1210 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 2: reason why is based on some of the feedback we 1211 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 2: got from GM Brandon Bean on Matt Mlano's prognosis. He 1212 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 2: basically told us that he expects him back on the field, 1213 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 2: albeit probably in a limited capacity, when the pads go 1214 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 2: back on. Well, the pads don't go back on until 1215 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,719 Speaker 2: training camp, so you're not going to have Matt Mlano 1216 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 2: for the entire off season until you get to Saint 1217 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 2: John Fisher, and then you have to see what he 1218 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 2: looks like. Now, look, Matt Milano, another guy with a 1219 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 2: relentless work ethic. I wouldn't doubt him for a second 1220 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 2: to come back successfully. But this is a long rehabilitation 1221 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 2: from Week five of last season. I mean, the guy 1222 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 2: got hurt the second week October and he's not going 1223 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 2: to be ready until the following August, maybe September. Start 1224 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 2: of the regular season, we don't know, So that unknown 1225 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 2: I think sends up a red flag for the position 1226 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 2: because it essentially leaves you in terms of who we 1227 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 2: know we're gonna have. You've got Torell Bernard Baile, inspector 1228 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams, and I think there's a reserve future free 1229 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 2: agent that signed as well. So yeah, I think it's 1230 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 2: a sneaky need for the Bills in the draft, and 1231 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 2: there's a couple that I really like, although I think 1232 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 2: they'll be gone early. Edrian Cooper from Texas A and 1233 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 2: M might be one of my favorite players in the 1234 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 2: entire draft class, but he'll probably be gone in the 1235 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 2: top fifty picks. So yeah, to answer your question, I 1236 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 2: think it is a sneaky need for the Bills, and 1237 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 2: I would expect them to draft one linebacker at the 1238 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,799 Speaker 2: very least, and maybe even get, you know, a veteran 1239 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 2: role player in free agency with some Special Team Eames experience, 1240 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 2: because let's not forget Tyler Mattikaevich free agent, Tyrel Dodson 1241 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 2: free agent. So it's gonna be interesting to see. But 1242 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 2: I think it is a position they have to address. 1243 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 2: There nobody's not too many people are really thinking about. 1244 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 4: And you need to address it. 1245 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 3: For just the fact that you need bodies to be 1246 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 3: able to get through OTA's get through training camp. You 1247 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 3: need guys in that room who who can help. And 1248 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 3: right now, the healthy guys that are not free agents 1249 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard Baile inspector, and Dorian Williams. 1250 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 4: Three linebackers is what you have. 1251 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: So they've got some work to do there, and I 1252 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 3: would expect it would be through the draft and maybe 1253 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 3: free agency as well. 1254 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 2: We have to step aside here because when we come back, 1255 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 2: we're going to bring you Mitch Trubisky. He is addressing 1256 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 2: the media after signing his contract here at One Bill's 1257 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 2: Drive today. We'll have that for you when we return 1258 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo 1259 01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 1260 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Maddy Glab with you here on a Thursday 1261 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 2: as we await the beginning of the Mitchell Trubisky press 1262 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 2: conference happening via zoom after he put pen to paper 1263 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 2: today to sign his contract with the Bill. So he's 1264 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 2: here One Bill's Drive and he is officially a Buffalo 1265 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 2: Bill once again. For those that don't remember. Played with 1266 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 2: the Bills as their backup quarterback in the twenty twenty 1267 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 2: one season after his career came to an end with 1268 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, and you know, he had some mop 1269 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 2: up duty in a couple of games back in twenty 1270 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 2: twenty one. I think he was like six of eight 1271 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 2: passing and then had some handoffs in some mop up 1272 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 2: duty for some games, and then parlayed that into a 1273 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 2: chance to compete for the starting job in Pittsburgh and 1274 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 2: did make some starts for the Steelers, but ultimately they 1275 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 2: drafted Kenny Pickett and he wound up being their starting 1276 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 2: quarterback and it looks like that's going to continue down there, 1277 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 2: although we might get some competition. We'll see. 1278 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had five starts for the Steelers in twenty 1279 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 3: twenty two, had two starts for them last season. And 1280 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,520 Speaker 3: you like a move like this because it brings familiarity 1281 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 3: to that room. Josh Allen is at a place in 1282 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 3: his career where I don't think you need to bring 1283 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 3: in the oldest vet in the league to help teach Josh. 1284 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 4: He's been in the league long enough. 1285 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 3: And Mitch Trubisky is a familiar face in that room 1286 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,719 Speaker 3: since he's been there already, and I like the connection 1287 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 3: that these two already have together. 1288 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 2: So without any further ado, let's go to the Zoom 1289 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 2: conference call with Mitch Trubisky, who's addressing questions from the media. 1290 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 13: Once me is a no brainer. 1291 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Once I got released, there was like a few spots 1292 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I had in my mind that I might have been interested, 1293 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 1: and this was at the top of the list. So 1294 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: to come back here, be a part of a contender, 1295 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: work with Josh all the boys again, I was just 1296 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: really excited about the opportunity and I'm happy to be back, 1297 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 1: so very energized, feel very positive about it, and me 1298 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 1: and my family are very happy. 1299 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 14: What were I know, you just mentioned some of them, 1300 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 14: but like the reasons you wanted to come back, what 1301 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 14: kind of stood out most of all? 1302 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think being a part of this team. I 1303 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 13: love the guys here. 1304 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: I love working with Josh the coach and staff coach McDermott, 1305 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,919 Speaker 1: and being with Brandon Bean and then having the opportunity 1306 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: to be in this offensive system and then learn from 1307 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 1: guys like coach Joe Brady and get to work with 1308 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 1: and RC and those guys. So it's get to be 1309 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: a part of a great room, playing this system and 1310 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: be a part of a contender. It was just this 1311 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: year I had here was a special year to me 1312 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,680 Speaker 1: being a part of this team in this community, and 1313 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,599 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting back to that. 1314 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 14: What do you think you learned about yourself the last 1315 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 14: couple of years while you were that you'll bring back 1316 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 14: to Buffalo now? 1317 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: Just experience, I mean over the year as you just 1318 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 1: see a lot of football and you go through some 1319 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: ups and downs and you just carry all that with you. 1320 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: But I have a like experience and wisdom to share 1321 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 1: with the young guys or any other guys on this team. 1322 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna work my tail off and just continue 1323 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: to push my teammates and be somebody that everybody can 1324 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: lean on and be that team guy that can help 1325 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: anybody and. 1326 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 13: Just help us one games. Awesome, Thanks and problem. Thanks. 1327 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,600 Speaker 13: Question would be from a G thanks. 1328 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 15: Ex I hate Mitchel Laina with ESPN welcome back. I 1329 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 15: guess just what kind of was this free agent? You know, 1330 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 15: after getting released by the Steelers and you said there 1331 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,639 Speaker 15: were some teams that you were interested in. What kind 1332 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 15: of was it like? Like you mentioned wanting to play 1333 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 15: for a contender and that kind of thing. What else 1334 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 15: were you looking for in an opportunity? 1335 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 13: It was very chill, to be honest with you. It 1336 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 13: wasn't like my other free agencies. 1337 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 1: I was thankful that the Steelers released me earlier than 1338 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 1: free agency actually artist, so I was my agent was 1339 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: able to start talking to some teams, and so I 1340 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,719 Speaker 1: took a very relaxed approach. I just had a feeling 1341 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: that I would end up exactly where I was supposed 1342 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: to be, And when this opportunity came back, it just 1343 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 1: felt like right. 1344 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 13: It felt like kind of coming home in the end. 1345 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,640 Speaker 1: So just to reunit with this guy, these guys, this 1346 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: team and really playing this offensive system that's that's friendly 1347 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, something I'm familiar with that I think 1348 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,759 Speaker 1: helps my skill set, it just felt like a no brainer. 1349 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 1: It felt like coming back home. So I was very 1350 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 1: excited about it. It was a very relaxed process for me, 1351 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: and it just seemed easy. 1352 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 15: Were those conversations with the Steelers like that you knew 1353 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 15: you said you were thankful they released you early. Just 1354 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 15: how do you kind of end things there? 1355 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, it was. 1356 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 13: It was a good mutual breakup, I guess you would 1357 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 13: call it. 1358 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean there were rumblings that they were going to 1359 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 1: going to do it, and so uh, and my mindset was, 1360 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 1: if it's going to happen, it'd probably be more beneficial 1361 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: to do it sooner rather than later. And it helped 1362 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: me get a start on free agency. So it was 1363 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,759 Speaker 1: beneficial for both sides in the end, and I'm thankful 1364 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 1: for that, and I'm thankful for my time there. So 1365 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good people and I'm just looking 1366 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 1: towards the future now. 1367 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 15: Back from when you were here in twenty one, Like, 1368 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 15: how do you feel like anything about you, like as 1369 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 15: a quarterback specifically, like you've learned or kind of adjusted 1370 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 15: or changed or anything. Like you look back on yourself 1371 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 15: when you were here in twenty one, what kind of. 1372 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 13: Maybe has changed? Just been through a lot. 1373 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 1: I think I've played in a lot of different systems 1374 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: and I kind of know what I don't like and 1375 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 1: do like by now, and I think coming back to 1376 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 1: this system, it's a one I'm a lot more comfortable 1377 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 1: in and I think it's better for my skill set. 1378 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 13: So it's good for the quarterback. 1379 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 1: It gives you a lot of free freedom, and we've 1380 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of playmakers get them to the ball 1381 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 1: open in space, and I think just being around the 1382 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,639 Speaker 1: guys here can I can really bring out the skill 1383 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 1: set and not just me but everybody else. 1384 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 15: Have you kept in Josh in touch with Josh over 1385 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 15: the last couple of years, like you guys like talkie, Like, 1386 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 15: was he pumped when he heard your comeback? Like? 1387 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 2: What was that? 1388 01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 11: Like? 1389 01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:58,759 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1390 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's excited. Stay in touch over the 1391 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Definitely not as much as when 1392 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: I was here, but we stay in touch. And I've 1393 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: always been rooting for him, So to be on the 1394 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 1: same team again and it's going to be special. And 1395 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to going to war with these guys. 1396 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 16: Thanks Lynch, thank you. 1397 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 5: Big Mitch, Rookie Hawkins. Work for today. He welcome back. 1398 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 13: How's it going, appreciate it? Glad to be back. 1399 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 5: I'm good man. How's the baby? 1400 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 13: He's doing great. He's doing great. 1401 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,679 Speaker 1: My wife was pregnant with him last time we were here, 1402 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: and now everybody coming back gets to see him when 1403 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 1: he's two. So he's not with us today, but I'm 1404 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,680 Speaker 1: excited to bring him back up here to Buffalo to 1405 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 1: where it kind of all started for him. 1406 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:46,280 Speaker 17: But it's special. Family's doing great. I appreciate that absolutely. Man, 1407 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,679 Speaker 17: how contagious is Buffalo right for you? Just to come 1408 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 17: back and knowing that there's so much of a perfect 1409 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:52,559 Speaker 17: fit for you. 1410 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 13: It really is. 1411 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,839 Speaker 1: I think that's a good word for it, being contagious. 1412 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean that positive energy. I think it brings out 1413 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: the best of you and everybody else, and I just 1414 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 1: wanted to be a. 1415 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 13: Part of that again. 1416 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 1: I had such a great fun year the year I 1417 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 1: was here, and it just felt right to run it 1418 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 1: back and be a part of this team and culture 1419 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 1: and community again. 1420 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 13: So I'm really looking forward to it. It just felt right. 1421 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at home and I'm just ready 1422 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 1: to get back to work. 1423 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:18,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 1424 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,560 Speaker 17: Now, how have your time and your experience in Pittsburgh 1425 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 17: helped you become a better player as well as some 1426 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 17: of the things that you could probably help Josh along 1427 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 17: the way? 1428 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 13: Yeah, for sure. I definitely had some ups and downs 1429 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 13: in Pittsburgh. 1430 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: I think I learned a lot more about what not 1431 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 1: to do and things that I don't like necessarily, and 1432 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 1: just being able to voice those opinions and have those 1433 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 1: opinions be heard. 1434 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 13: I think it's important. 1435 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 1: And you come to a place like this where They 1436 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,280 Speaker 1: do value Josh's opinion a lot in the quarterbacks room, 1437 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,719 Speaker 1: opinion and that leadership, and you need that to trickle 1438 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: throughout the building. 1439 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 13: So just being able to speak out, speak up about what. 1440 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,680 Speaker 1: You like and don't like, and have that resonate within 1441 01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 1: the offense and throughout the building, I think is absolutely man. 1442 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,560 Speaker 17: And I know you being back here in Buffalo, so 1443 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 17: that means you get the opportunity to go back to 1444 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,640 Speaker 17: some of your favorite eateries. Right, So what is one 1445 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 17: of the favorite eatery that you can't wait to go 1446 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 17: to being back? 1447 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Oh, definitely some bar Bill Chicken Wings and then Elm 1448 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Street Bakery. Those are two of our favorite spots, so 1449 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna hit those very soon. 1450 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 17: Absolutely, my guy, welcome back and I can't wait to 1451 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 17: see you appreciate it. 1452 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 13: Thank you. 1453 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 18: Hey, Mitch, I think I'm up. 1454 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 13: Ye, congrats on the contract. 1455 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 18: I'm curious curious if you've touched base with Joe Brady 1456 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 18: at all. 1457 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 5: I know he might be a new face for you. 1458 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 18: What are your impressions of him? 1459 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to work with Joe. I got to 1460 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 1: catch up with him a little bit today. As from 1461 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 1: what I've been watching over the years that I was gone, 1462 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: the system has really stayed the same, but He's really 1463 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: put his flavor on it, so I'm excited to work 1464 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,719 Speaker 1: with him. He's kind of got that contagious energy as well. 1465 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 1: He brings a lot of energy passion for the game. 1466 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: But after my talks with him, He's gonna let me 1467 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,640 Speaker 1: play my game right, So I'm not trying to be 1468 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'm trying to be Mitch Trubisky and bring 1469 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: bring my skills to the table and do what I 1470 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 1: can do in this offense. So I really enjoyed my 1471 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: talk with him. I enjoyed my talk with Ronald Curry. 1472 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to working with another North Carolina guy, 1473 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 1: which is really cool. And uh, it's it's going to 1474 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,640 Speaker 1: be back in this system and just ready to hit 1475 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 1: the ground running, just learning from those guys, getting back 1476 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 1: into the burbage and get ready for OTAs. 1477 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 18: You mentioned that Joe has put his own flavor on 1478 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 18: the system that is familiar. Is it too early for 1479 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 18: you to say what that flavor sort of is or 1480 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 18: can you put put your finger on exactly what it is? 1481 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't I don't know exactly what it is yet. 1482 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,560 Speaker 13: But from my talks with him, he just wants to 1483 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 13: play to each player's strength. So if if you've got 1484 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,960 Speaker 13: a strength, he wants to utilize those and then just 1485 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 13: continue to work on the week. This isn't in your 1486 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 13: game and just play exactly what your game is and 1487 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 13: do what you're capable of. But also playing within yourself 1488 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 13: and within the offense, I think is what I got 1489 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 13: from my tops with them, So I'm looking forward to that, 1490 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,720 Speaker 13: looking forward to just continue to progress my game as well, 1491 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 13: continue to get better, but also help Josh and all 1492 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 13: the other boys that I can, and just contribute to 1493 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:18,720 Speaker 13: this team in any way. 1494 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 16: Thank you, appreciate it, Thank you. I think that is 1495 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 16: all we have time for today. Thank you Minch for 1496 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 16: your time. 1497 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 13: Awesome, Thanks guys, happy to be back. 1498 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 2: All right. So that's Mitchell Trubisky addressing the media here 1499 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 2: this afternoon, just minutes probably after signing his contract here 1500 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 2: at one Bills Drive today. So it is official. Now 1501 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,080 Speaker 2: the Bills have their backup quarterback in the fold at 1502 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 2: least that they're planning to have as their backup quarterback. 1503 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 2: And it is a two year contract. Last time he 1504 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 2: was here was a one year deal, so I'm not 1505 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 2: surprised to hear this, but obviously, when you're a quarterback 1506 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 2: who's been to three different places in the span of 1507 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 2: four seasons, familiarity counts and that was clear here. 1508 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, coming back to Buffalo, it feels like home. 1509 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 3: So he feels like the system suits his game well, 1510 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 3: and also added that he got to catch up with 1511 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 3: Joe Brady today and so that Joe has in contagious 1512 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 3: energy and he's excited to see what that looks like 1513 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 3: on the field. Says it'll be fun to play with 1514 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 3: him as an offensive coordinator. He's the type of offensive coordinator 1515 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 3: who wants to uplift the game that you play on 1516 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 3: the field, get the best version out of you. 1517 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some fans might remember this, but in the 1518 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 2: preseason when he was here in twenty one, you remember 1519 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 2: he had a lightning fast start against the Bears, this 1520 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 2: former team. I think he completed like his first ten passes, 1521 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,960 Speaker 2: marsh the team right down the field. I don't think 1522 01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 2: Josh played in that game, and you know, unfortunately for him, 1523 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 2: not for the Bills, because if he's playing, that means 1524 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 2: Josh is injured. He didn't get a lot of opportunity 1525 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 2: and I think we'd prefer to all have it stay 1526 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,040 Speaker 2: that way. But I thought it was cool that he 1527 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,559 Speaker 2: referenced new quarterbacks coach Ronald Curry, who is a UNC legend, 1528 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 2: and obviously Trubisky played his college ball at UNC, So 1529 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 2: kind of a cool connection there between those two. You know, 1530 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 2: Ronald Curry is legendary status as far as Tar Heel 1531 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 2: football athletes are concerned. So you can tell he cracked 1532 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,599 Speaker 2: a smile when he mentioned coach Curry's name. So that'll 1533 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,799 Speaker 2: be an interesting relationship to see develop in the practice 1534 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 2: setting and training camp. 1535 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:43,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. 1536 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 3: And Mitch Trubisky being added to this quarterback room, you 1537 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,879 Speaker 3: think about, Okay, it's a backup quarterback. 1538 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 4: What is he going to do? How is he going 1539 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 4: to help the team. 1540 01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 3: Hopefully Josh Allen is on the field every single game 1541 01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 3: and we don't have to see Mitch Trubisky. 1542 01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:58,879 Speaker 4: That's best case scenario. 1543 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,320 Speaker 3: But when it comes to meetings, when it comes to 1544 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 3: going through practices, when it comes to scout team stuff 1545 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 3: that they do throughout the week, a backup quarterback is 1546 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 3: important in all of that because it's another voice for 1547 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,559 Speaker 3: Josh Allen to hear. You want somebody in that room 1548 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 3: who can be able to help Josh and this is 1549 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 3: the reason why they're signing him. You don't sign a 1550 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 3: backup quarterback if you don't think that this guy can 1551 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 3: help with Josh Allen's development, how he sees things on 1552 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 3: the field, being able to come from the field to 1553 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 3: the sideline and talk with Mitch Trubisky throughout a game. 1554 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,880 Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on? What are you seeing? 1555 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,600 Speaker 3: It's a relationship thing, and that's a big reason. I 1556 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 3: would say why the Bills decided to sign him to 1557 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,040 Speaker 3: a two year contract. 1558 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 2: And you saying scout team just triggered another memory in 1559 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 2: my head. I remember when he was here, and I 1560 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,479 Speaker 2: remember some of the defensive players after a couple of 1561 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 2: big victories in the twenty twenty one season, crediting Mitchell 1562 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:58,000 Speaker 2: Trubisky with giving them a fantastic look in practice for 1563 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 2: the upcoming opponent. Part of a backup quarterback's job is 1564 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,759 Speaker 2: to give the starting defense the best scouting look possible 1565 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 2: in the practice setting, and Trubisky would get rave reviews 1566 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 2: from the defensive players in this locker room for the 1567 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 2: job he would do during the practice week as the 1568 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 2: scout team quarterback running the other team's offensive plays. And 1569 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 2: I can tell you I can think of a handful 1570 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 2: of players just off the top of my head through 1571 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 2: the course of that season who said what a great 1572 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,639 Speaker 2: job Trubisky did getting them ready to face their opponent 1573 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 2: that week by giving them fantastic looks in the practice setting. 1574 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 2: Don't think that that doesn't count for something. And when 1575 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 2: he became available again, the Bills jumped rather quickly to 1576 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 2: try to get him back in the fold here. And 1577 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of the 1578 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 2: factors in that decision. 1579 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you said, it says something that they 1580 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 3: went after him right away. And Mitch Trubisky seemed happy 1581 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 3: about being released by the Steelers when he was released 1582 01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 3: by them, saying, hey, it was nice to not hit 1583 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 3: the market when everybody else's And the fact that I 1584 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,000 Speaker 3: could do some of this work, my agent could do 1585 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 3: some of this work ahead of everybody else. When the 1586 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 3: negotiating period starts on March eleventh, and when free agency 1587 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 3: officially begins on March thirteenth, the Bills had their eye 1588 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 3: open for a guy like Mitch Trubisky if they decided 1589 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 3: to make a move like this. You know, before March eleventh. 1590 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 2: We wanted to crack open the tweet sheet here quickly 1591 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,720 Speaker 2: before the show is over to get some of your 1592 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 2: thoughts on how Wednesday's roster moves by the Bills made 1593 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 2: you feel. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, 1594 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills and 1595 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 2: BIP eighteen twelve, says, emotionally, I hate it, rationally feel 1596 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,560 Speaker 2: pretty good these moves needed to happen. I have to 1597 01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 2: tell you, Maddie, I'm pretty impressed with the reaction from 1598 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 2: the fan base. Disappointed that some very familiar household names 1599 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,839 Speaker 2: on this roster over the years are, you know, shuffling 1600 01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 2: out the door. But I think there is a real 1601 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 2: astute sense as to what the Bills were facing with 1602 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,919 Speaker 2: respect to the cap and some of the tough decisions 1603 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 2: that were inevitably coming down the pike. 1604 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 8: Here. 1605 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 2: It just shows you how plugged in the majority of 1606 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,640 Speaker 2: this Bill's fan base is. They knew some of this 1607 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,240 Speaker 2: stuff was gonna be coming. 1608 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, our fan base is a smart 1609 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 4: fan base. 1610 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 3: They knew where the Bills were at in the money 1611 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 3: that they had to clear move around before March thirteenth, 1612 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 3: the date to become cap compliant, and knowing how big 1613 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 3: of a number that was. Our fans knew that some 1614 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 3: of these names, some of these bigger names were going 1615 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 3: to get released to We're going to get restructured. So 1616 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:44,640 Speaker 3: it seems like most people were expecting something like this, 1617 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 3: maybe not expecting the volume that happened yesterday, maybe thinking oh, 1618 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,320 Speaker 3: it would trickle out over over a few days or 1619 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,240 Speaker 3: something like that. Some surprises in there, for sure, seems 1620 01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 3: like what fans are thinking, But for the most part, 1621 01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 3: they knew something like this would happen. 1622 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 2: Next one from Jeremy I think encapsulates what the other 1623 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 2: feelings are regarding the roster moves that were made yesterday. Personally, 1624 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 2: it makes me feel great. Bean sees that the formula 1625 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 2: of keeping players around that are continually not advancing in 1626 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,879 Speaker 2: the playoffs is not getting the job done, so changes 1627 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,280 Speaker 2: need to be made. Morse is a head scratcher, cap 1628 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 2: casualty question mark, but everyone else makes sense. Yes, Morse 1629 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,520 Speaker 2: was an eight and a half million dollar cap savings, 1630 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,519 Speaker 2: nothing more and nothing less. But yes, I think a 1631 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 2: lot of fans are frustrated with the Bill's inability to 1632 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 2: advance to the championship game. Each of the last two 1633 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,599 Speaker 2: years in the playoffs, and they want to get further 1634 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 2: and I think they want to see change on the 1635 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,240 Speaker 2: roster to try to push them further. Now, sometimes change 1636 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 2: is good, sometimes it doesn't always result in better results. 1637 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 2: We'll see what this coaching staff can do with what 1638 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 2: the new roster looks like come September. 1639 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe fresh legs can bring about some good things 1640 01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 3: here in Buffalo. But thinking about Sean McDermott as being 1641 01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,360 Speaker 3: a defensive minded coach, you got a lot of holes 1642 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,679 Speaker 3: on defense and he knows how to fill them. 1643 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,680 Speaker 2: Break time for us. Maddy and I wrap it up 1644 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,679 Speaker 2: when we return here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned. 1645 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 2: One final comment from the tweetsheet, this one from Carter. 1646 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,120 Speaker 2: He says, being crushed. It stinks we had to lose 1647 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 2: those guys, but let's be real. All those guys have 1648 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,000 Speaker 2: lost a step and they're not getting any younger. The 1649 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 2: biggest loss is the leadership, that's right, But they're always 1650 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 2: grooming new leaders and I think prime leaders for the 1651 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,679 Speaker 2: defense going into next year, probably Torell Bernard and Arren 1652 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 2: Johnson are the first names that come to mind for me. 1653 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 3: Think about what it was like to say by to 1654 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 3: Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander. People stepped up in their 1655 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,759 Speaker 3: place in locker room in terms of leadership. 1656 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it for a Thursday edition and one 1657 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,719 Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Something tells me we'll have more Bills news 1658 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,679 Speaker 2: for you tomorrow, So to turn into Friday Show, we'll 1659 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 2: have Frank Schwab with us joining us talk about free agency. 1660 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:05,759 Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow