WEBVTT - Nick’s Top 50 NBA Players of the Last 50 Years: #34-30

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into another special edition of the What Dry with

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Right podcast and YouTube show the fifty greatest players

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<v Speaker 2>of the last fifty years in the NBA. If you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't caught up yet, we've already done players fifty through

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five. Today we will finish out the thirties and

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<v Speaker 2>above give you players thirty four through thirty And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't intentionally do this, but this all of these players

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pair well together. You have two of the

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<v Speaker 2>best second options on dynasties, you have two of the

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<v Speaker 2>best perimeter defensive players ever, and you have one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most underrated and forgotten players of NBA history paired

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<v Speaker 2>with someone some would argue is one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>overrated and far too relevant in the contemporary pop culture

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<v Speaker 2>and NBA history. So that those are five guys, we

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<v Speaker 2>will start with number thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Number thirty four Kevin McHale.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kevin mcchale's All NBA and MVP finishes, that part

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<v Speaker 2>of his resume is not great. He's only first team

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA one time, he only has one top five

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<v Speaker 2>MVP finish, is two times six Man of the Year,

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<v Speaker 2>but six Men of the Year typically aren't top fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>All time guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has six time All Defense And whenever you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Kevin McHale, you have to mention his legendary footwork,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that Charles Barkley said was the hardest player

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<v Speaker 2>he ever had to defend. So when your resume is

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<v Speaker 2>that light on individual accomplishments, how do you get not

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<v Speaker 2>only make this list, but make the top thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>of this list. Well, he's a three time champion, five

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<v Speaker 2>time finalist, and he was the second best player on

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<v Speaker 2>I would argue two of those championship runs, the title

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<v Speaker 2>in eighty one, he wasn't their second best player yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was Birds robin to Birds batman for the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the Celtics dynasty, and he showed up in

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest moments nineteen eighty five when the Celtics lost

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<v Speaker 2>in six to the Lakers. He had thirty two and

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen in the final game of that series and averaged

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six and eleven for that series, leading the Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>in points and rebounds for the eighty five finals. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six games five and six against Sampson and

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<v Speaker 2>the Keen.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, the two big men.

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<v Speaker 2>For Houston in the eighty six finals are Ralph Sampson

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<v Speaker 2>and Akeem Olajan. What does Kevin McHale do in Games

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<v Speaker 2>five and six thirty three and eight followed by twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to ten once again in that finals, he leads

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<v Speaker 2>the Celtics in points per game, So back to back

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<v Speaker 2>finals he scores more points than Larry Bird. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't a situation where it was just Larry Bird

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<v Speaker 2>carrying the Celtics dynasty. And I understand Parish is a

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<v Speaker 2>player a lot of historians, and he's on the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>Top fifty, in the top seventy five list. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Parish is a touch overrated and McHale's a touch underrated.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighty five and eighty six finals.

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<v Speaker 2>McHale leads the Celtics in points per game in both finals,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's doing it against having to guard Kareem in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighty five finals, having to guard Sampson or a

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<v Speaker 2>Keem in the eighty six finals, or at least being

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<v Speaker 2>a part of it. Obviously Robert Parrish had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the big men on the opposing team as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you go to you move on, and Kevin McHale

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<v Speaker 2>breaks his foot, and this is kind of the fork

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<v Speaker 2>in the road moment for him, because today's NBA he'd

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<v Speaker 2>have sat down for probably a year. He plays through it,

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<v Speaker 2>averages twenty one to nine that postseason, which ends in

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<v Speaker 2>a finals loss to the Lakers. With a broken foot

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight. What happens, He's twenty five and eight

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<v Speaker 2>on sixty percent shooting in the eighty eight postseason. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is post foot injury, twenty five and eight on

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent shooting for the postseason. They lose to Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>in Eastern Conference Finals. He and in round two, which

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<v Speaker 2>was the famous Dominique Larry Bird duel. Kevin McHale quietly

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<v Speaker 2>goes thirty three and thirteen in a game Boston wins

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<v Speaker 2>by two, and then after that Bird's back is gone,

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<v Speaker 2>McHale's foot is gone, and they're done. But if we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to reward winning, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to reward real postseason success, we have to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that Kevin McHale was not just a supporting actor in

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<v Speaker 2>the se Celtics mini dynasty of the eighties. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>he comes in number thirty four on the all time list.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to one of our callers that has a

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin mcchale question.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Nick, I know a little bit about Kevin McHale,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know how important he was these Celtics teams,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the scoring or the rebounding.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he was an enforcer who could also really

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<v Speaker 5>score the ball. But realistically, what do you think the

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<v Speaker 5>score of a one on one game would be between

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<v Speaker 5>Lebron James and Kevin McHale eleven?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, at a certain point, don't you have to

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<v Speaker 5>be a more competent all round player than just a

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<v Speaker 5>guy who can, you know, rebound and have good footwork

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<v Speaker 5>in the post.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me know what you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course McHale would get roasted in a one on

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<v Speaker 2>one game against many guys, and comparing him to Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to show up on the spoiler alert in

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<v Speaker 2>the top three of this list is unfair. But his

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<v Speaker 2>contributions to winning basketball cannot be overstated.

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<v Speaker 4>And on top of that, what.

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<v Speaker 2>I want people to unders and again not to restate

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<v Speaker 2>my own points, but there's a guy that averaged twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six and eleven in the eighty five finals average, led

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<v Speaker 2>the team in scoring in the eighty six finals.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't just he wasn't a role player.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, would a team with Kevin McHale is their best

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<v Speaker 2>guy have been a champion? Probably not, but would he

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<v Speaker 2>have undoubtedly had multiple top five MVP finishes instead of

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<v Speaker 2>just the one. I think so I'm very comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>him as the second best supporting actor, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>in NBA history, being number thirty four, and that leads

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<v Speaker 2>us seamlessly to number thirty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Number thirty three, Scottie Pippen.

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<v Speaker 2>So Scotty Pippins's resume is he's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things going for me. He is three times first Team

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA, two times second team All NBA, two time

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<v Speaker 2>third Team All NBA, ten time All Defense, Top five

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<v Speaker 2>MVP voting twice, one third place finish, and the first

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<v Speaker 2>year without Michael Jordan, the Bulls.

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<v Speaker 4>Won fifty five games.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where I'm contractually obligated to remind you

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<v Speaker 2>the Bulls won. Michael Jordan in his career won zero

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<v Speaker 2>playoff series and only one playoff game before Scotty Pippen

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<v Speaker 2>was with him, and once he once, Jordan didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>Pippen anymore. Those Wizard years never saw the playoffs. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's not act like Scotty Pippen was just writing Jordan's

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<v Speaker 2>coat tails. So what postseason accomplishment is a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of this. Obviously second best player on a six time

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<v Speaker 2>champion his.

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<v Speaker 4>Rookie year, Game five, first.

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<v Speaker 2>Round elimination game, He's twenty four to six and five

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<v Speaker 2>against Cleveland for the first Michael Jordan and Chicago Bulls

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<v Speaker 2>playoff series win.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the next few years are tough for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty nine and ninety against the Pistons. Eighty nine in

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<v Speaker 2>the final game of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Series, he only plays one minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety in Game seven is the Migraine game. They talked

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<v Speaker 2>a ton about that in the last dance obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>he rallied after that ninety one, the close out game

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<v Speaker 2>to win the Bulls first title. What did Scotty Pippen

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<v Speaker 2>do thirty two, thirteen seven and five thirty two points,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen rebounds, seven assists, five steals to win their first

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<v Speaker 2>title the next year ninety two against the Knicks. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this is important because the Knicks were one of only

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<v Speaker 2>two teams ever take the Bulls seven games on their

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<v Speaker 2>six title runs. Right Game seven against the Knicks seventeen, eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and three. By the way, also in that series

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<v Speaker 2>against the Knicks, in the last dance, they talked about

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan catching all that flak for going to Atlantic

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<v Speaker 2>City between games two and three, and then they talked

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<v Speaker 2>about how in Game four he dropped the double nickel.

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<v Speaker 2>What they left out of that is Game three. The

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls are down two. This is the year they win

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<v Speaker 2>their second title. Michael goes three for eighteen after gambling

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<v Speaker 2>all night in ac What does Scotty do? Scotty had

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine points on twelve shots to help them stave

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<v Speaker 2>off going down oh three. They end up winning, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>four of the next five, and they end up going

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<v Speaker 2>to the NBA Finals. That, by the way, in the

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<v Speaker 2>closeout game to go to the NBA Finals in ninety two.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty nine twelve five, four and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty nine points, twelve rebounds, five says, four steals, four blocks.

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<v Speaker 4>And then, and this is important, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We already talked about what he did the year without Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when there when Jordan is back ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>the famous Nick Anderson game, not the miss free throws,

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<v Speaker 2>but where Jordan gets ripped when they lose to the

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<v Speaker 2>Magic Scotty was twenty six, twelve and six in that

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<v Speaker 2>game six loss.

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<v Speaker 4>He showed up in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>During the playoffs the second three Pat This is when

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<v Speaker 2>Scotty was a little past his prime. He's eighteen seven

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<v Speaker 2>and five for the three pat his playoff career high.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually did his first year without Michael when he

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<v Speaker 2>was with the Rockets, he scored thirty seven and he's

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<v Speaker 2>played two hundred and six career playoff games, so two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half seasons worth of playoff games. He was

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen eight and five, so one of the greatest defenders ever.

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<v Speaker 2>He showed up in the postseason after the Migraine moment

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen ninety and he won six titles. He,

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<v Speaker 2>without a doubt, deserves to be on this list. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to a caller who is a Scottie Pippen comment.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Nick, you know why you're overrating Scottie Pippen. Let

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<v Speaker 6>me remind you who he played with. His name was

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<v Speaker 6>Michael Jordan, the greatest player to ever play the game.

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<v Speaker 6>How long did it take Scotty Pippen to get good

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<v Speaker 6>enough so Jordan could have one damn all star perennial

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<v Speaker 6>to play with to win championships? It took him four years.

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<v Speaker 6>The dude came in as an eight points per game scorer.

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<v Speaker 6>He had a bad back, He didn't know what he

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<v Speaker 6>was doing on the court, and day after day and

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<v Speaker 6>practice after practice, Mike continually lifted him up.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael leaves. What does Scotty do?

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<v Speaker 6>They lose to the next Tony Kuk coach bails him

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<v Speaker 6>out in Game three, he doesn't do anything in the

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<v Speaker 6>fourth quarter. In Game seven against New York, he leaves

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<v Speaker 6>the Bulls.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens in Portland?

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<v Speaker 6>They melt down against the Lakers in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 6>blow a Game seven. He's one chance to go back

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<v Speaker 6>to the finals. Whenever Michael left. Scotty did nothing. You

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<v Speaker 6>love to talk about. Oh, they won fifty five games, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they won fifty five games. They lost in the second

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<v Speaker 6>damn round. Scotty Pippin without Mike is a very good

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<v Speaker 6>basketball player period. If Dominique Wilkins had been on the

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<v Speaker 6>Bulls when Scotty was in eighty eight eighty nine, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>They beat the dam Detroit Pistons.

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<v Speaker 6>Scotty was killing Michael waiting for him to get good.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, listen, full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my buddy Mark Carmon, who does a great job

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio and on.

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<v Speaker 4>Television in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>He is also a Michael Jordan superfan, and like most

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan's super fans, they try to twist history to

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<v Speaker 2>make Jordan this deified character as opposed to a three

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<v Speaker 2>dimensional human being. And here's what I don't do. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some would call me a Lebron guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't try to tear down Dwayne Wade. You're gonna see

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<v Speaker 2>him in high on this list. I don't try to

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<v Speaker 2>tear down Anthony Davis. You already saw him on this list.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan fans like to act like Scotty Pippen was a

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<v Speaker 2>glorified Orlando Woolridge who just Jordan just pulled to the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>Flatly untrue. So while I love and respect carm he's

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<v Speaker 2>dead wrong on Pippin. He's the thirty third greatest player ever.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Welcome back in What's Right with Nick Wright's

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<v Speaker 2>special edition the fifty greatest Players of last fifty years

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<v Speaker 2>in NBA history. Number thirty four was Kevin McHale. Number

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three was Scottie Pippen. Number thirty two Kawhi Leonard,

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<v Speaker 2>three time First Team All NBA, two time second Team

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA, two time Defensive Player of the Year, three

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<v Speaker 2>top five MVP finishes, including a second place finish, seven

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<v Speaker 2>time All Defensive Team.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the individual accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 2>The team accomplishments are a little more complicated in the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning than not complicated at all at the end. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a two time Finals MVP with a bit of an asterisk.

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<v Speaker 2>That first Finals MVP, the one he got with the Spurs,

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<v Speaker 2>is other than Andrea Guidalas and wes Unselds, probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most curious head scratching Finals MVP ever awarded. He did

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<v Speaker 2>have twenty nine to four in game three of those finals. However,

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<v Speaker 2>he also had consecutive nine point finals games in a

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<v Speaker 2>finals he won Finals MVP for averaging eighteen points and

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<v Speaker 2>six rebounds. So that's that's a Finals MVP, but only

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<v Speaker 2>kind of. However, the next Finals MVP he won, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a no doubter, and that's what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, because he was the best player without a

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<v Speaker 2>doubt on a champion. And let's talk about the runs

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<v Speaker 2>where he was the best player on a team. Twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>his last healthy year with the Spurs, Kawhi was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight and five, and his shooting splits for that

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<v Speaker 2>playoff run were fifty three from the field, forty six

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<v Speaker 2>percent from three, and ninety three percent from the free

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<v Speaker 2>throw line. That all ended when Zaza Pachulia put his

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<v Speaker 2>foot underneath them on that corner three pointer in Game

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Western Garmends Finals, and that essentially also

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<v Speaker 2>ended his Spurs run. But then the very next year,

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<v Speaker 2>the year with Toronto, he had one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>postseason runs ever twenty nineteen Eastern Conference Semifinals. Here's what

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<v Speaker 2>Kui does Game one, forty five and eleven, Game four

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine, fourteen and five, Game seven forty one, eight

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<v Speaker 2>and three, and oh yeah, by the way, a buzzer

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<v Speaker 2>beater in Game seven over Joe LMB to move on

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<v Speaker 2>to the Eastern Gonmerence Finals. What happened in the Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Conference Finals? That was supposed to be the year Yannis

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<v Speaker 2>broke through. I thought that was gonna be the year

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<v Speaker 2>Yannis broke through. Remember going on TV saying this is

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<v Speaker 2>Yanna is gonna win MVP, gonna be the gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>the championship. The Bucks are rolling, They're up to nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in that series on Toronto. Game three, goes to I

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<v Speaker 2>think triple overtime, certainly at least double overtime, and Kauhia

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<v Speaker 2>is thirty six nine and five down two zho to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid going down oh three, and they end up winning

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<v Speaker 2>four in a row. In Game five of those Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Armens Finals, he's thirty five to seven and nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>for the playoff run, thirty points nine rebounds per game,

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<v Speaker 2>carrying a good but far from great Raptors team to

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<v Speaker 2>a championship. Now is that different if Katie doesn't pop

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<v Speaker 2>his achilles, if play doesn't blow his knee. Maybe, but

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi was there for all of it. Then the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one playoff run, So just last year, he's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>points and eight rebounds a game on fifty seven percent shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>including forty five and six and a critical Game five

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<v Speaker 2>against my guy Luca in the MAVs in Round one.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he tore his ACL and we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>him since. And thus is the rub with Kawhi. Leonard

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi showed us in the twenty seventeen postseason that I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is arguably a top three player, top two player,

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<v Speaker 2>top one player in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he got hurt twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen posts season, he stays healthy his twenty eighteen base

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<v Speaker 2>and missal whole year, and they win the title. Twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>they blow the three one lead twenty twenty one. Oh Man,

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<v Speaker 2>here comes Kawhi looking like the best player in the

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<v Speaker 2>league again, and then he gets hurt. So he's the

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<v Speaker 2>best player on a champion. He's been to three finals,

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<v Speaker 2>He's won two finals MVPs. But it also feels like

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<v Speaker 2>we almost haven't seen enough of Kawhi Leonard. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>he sits there at number thirty two. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest perimeter defenders ever and one of the greatest individual

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<v Speaker 2>single season playoff runs ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Kawhi, here's my buddy. Kevin Wilds with a Kawhi Leonard question.

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<v Speaker 3>Called me old fashioned. You know what I like? Finals MVPs.

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<v Speaker 8>Kawhi, He's got two finals MVPs. Here's a list of

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<v Speaker 8>guys with two finals MVPs or more. Jordan Lebron, Tim Duncan,

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<v Speaker 8>Jack Magic, Kawhi has two, kd Kobe, Keem Bird, Kareem

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<v Speaker 8>Willis Reed, that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody else has.

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<v Speaker 8>Got one or none. I didn't name thirty three guys

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<v Speaker 8>there are thirty two guys. Kawhi's got to be moved

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<v Speaker 8>up on finals MVPs alone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be moved up, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>My guy Wilde's his Finals MVP obsession is purely because

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<v Speaker 2>he's mad that Paul Pierce is not on this list

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<v Speaker 2>and Paul Pierce as the finals MVP and again on

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<v Speaker 2>finals MVPs alone. Maybe I would move him up if

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<v Speaker 2>I valued that first finals MVP as much as other

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<v Speaker 2>finals MVPs.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I just flatly don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like guy averaged eighteen and six for that play for

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<v Speaker 2>that those finals games one. In Games two he had

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<v Speaker 2>nine points, So I understand you have to give it

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<v Speaker 2>to someone. I'd have given it to Duncan, but the

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<v Speaker 2>that was Kawhi's biggest issue. The other issue is this

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<v Speaker 2>just quickly before I move on, because his top level

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<v Speaker 2>play has been unbelievable. Kawhi has not played six hundred games.

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi does not have how many career assists does he

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<v Speaker 2>have sixteen hundred career less than four thousand career rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not in the top two hundred and fifty all

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<v Speaker 2>time in scoring. He's eleven thousand points, And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he's thirty. So it's a weird spot where Kawhi. When

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<v Speaker 2>he's been at his best, he's been unbelievable, but he

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<v Speaker 2>just hasn't played enough. He's oddly in a similar spot

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<v Speaker 2>Walton is in. He obviously played more than Walton, but

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<v Speaker 2>not that much more so that's why I have him

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<v Speaker 2>where he is. He is number thirty two. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we get to a guy who playing a lot was

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<v Speaker 2>not his issue. The fact that young people don't respect

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<v Speaker 2>history is his issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Number thirty one Elvin Hayes.

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<v Speaker 2>Elvin Hayes's numbers are mind blowing. Let me go through

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<v Speaker 2>one three time first team All NBA, three time second

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<v Speaker 2>Team All NBA, one time scoring champ, two time rebounding champ,

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<v Speaker 2>three top five MVP finishes. But here's where it gets crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>He is fourth on the all time rebounding list. The

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<v Speaker 2>people ahead of him Wilt Russell and Kareem He is

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<v Speaker 2>eleventh on the all time scoring list. For his career,

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<v Speaker 2>he averaged twenty one and thirteen and he played eighty

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<v Speaker 2>plus games all sixteen years. By the way, his average,

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<v Speaker 2>his average for the first twelve years of his career

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty four points fourteen rebounds, forty two minutes per game,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one games per year. That was his average his

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<v Speaker 2>first twelve years of his career. He missed a total

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<v Speaker 2>of six games. What are his playoffs accomplishments? A nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight champion and the best player on three finalists.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't have a finals MVP. More on that in

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<v Speaker 4>a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Career playoff averages twenty three to thirteen and ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>career playoff games. Game five of the Eastern Conference Semis

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy five against Bob mcadoin that really great Buffalo

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<v Speaker 2>Braves team forty six twelve, five, three and three. They

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<v Speaker 2>go to the finals in nineteen seventy five, they lose

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<v Speaker 2>to Rick Berry. He averages twenty one and eleven. Then

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the seventy eight finals, he averages twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three and sixteen to beat Doctor J Who's gonna show

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<v Speaker 2>up very high on this list, to get to the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>When they finally break through and win the championship in

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight, and this is one of the most egregious

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<v Speaker 2>voting results in not sports.

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<v Speaker 4>History, but in voting history politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Student Council Finals MVP in the nineteen seventy eight NBA Finals,

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<v Speaker 2>Elvin Hayes averaged twenty one and twelve wes Unseld got

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<v Speaker 2>Finals MVP wes Unseld average for the finals nine and twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the true story.

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<v Speaker 2>Elvin Hayes twenty one and twelve teammate wes Unseld nine

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<v Speaker 2>and twelve wes Unseld one Finals MVP. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>as a defending CHAMPI in his first playoff game thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one and fifteen in the first game as defending champ,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine and fifteen in a game seven as a

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<v Speaker 2>defending champ down while he was down three to one

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<v Speaker 2>to Gervin in the Spurs twenty five and seventeen averages

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<v Speaker 2>over the final three games, and then in seventy nine

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<v Speaker 2>is the defending champ, he averaged twenty to twelve. In

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<v Speaker 2>a rematch of the finals, they of course lost to Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>who they had beaten the previous year. So Elvin Hayes

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<v Speaker 2>fourth on the all time rebounding list, eleventh on the

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<v Speaker 2>all time scoring list, three top five MVPs, but never

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<v Speaker 2>won at best player on three finalists, won a championship,

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<v Speaker 2>should have a finals MVP, and was an absolute iron Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to be somewhere on anybody's top forty at

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<v Speaker 2>the very least the last fifty years he gets forgotten.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to our power, Rick Buker, who has an

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<v Speaker 2>Elvin Hayes question.

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<v Speaker 9>Elvin Hayes is one of those guys that often falls

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<v Speaker 9>through the cracks. So good on you, Nick for acknowledging him.

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<v Speaker 9>But I have the same question that I had with

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<v Speaker 9>Clyde Drexler. If Elvin hadn't won a championship in Washington

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<v Speaker 9>with the Bullets, would we still look at him the

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<v Speaker 9>same way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, we wouldn't have. But he was the best

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<v Speaker 4>player on that team. He was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of these guys, I love Rick Buker,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of these guys, if they hadn't had

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<v Speaker 2>the crowning achievement of their career, they would be looked

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<v Speaker 2>at differently. But he did have the crowning achievement of

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<v Speaker 2>his career. He should have won that finals MVP. He

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 2>carried that team to the finals, so we look at

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>him the way we do. Went to three finals, the

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<v Speaker 2>best player on all three teams. It should have won finals.

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<v Speaker 2>MVP is unbelievable. Longevity unbelievable production. The number thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>player of the last fifty years, Elvin Hayes, and now

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<v Speaker 2>he might be like my god, Nick he did six

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<v Speaker 2>minutes on Elvin Hayes. Okay, number thirty and what we

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<v Speaker 2>wrapped the show. One of the most famous players in

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<v Speaker 2>NBA history and one of the most polarizing players in

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<v Speaker 2>NBA history.

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<v Speaker 4>He's next. All right, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>We are already to number thirty on the fifty greatest

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<v Speaker 2>players the last fifty years. And listen, this is like eating.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you gotta eat your vegetables to get the dessert.

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<v Speaker 2>The vegetables were the six minutes on Elvin Hayes, who

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<v Speaker 2>I think gets forgotten. The nice you know, banana cream

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<v Speaker 2>pie you're getting for dessert or whatever you want is

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<v Speaker 2>number thirty. A guy everyone has an opinion on. Why

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<v Speaker 2>did I say banana cream pie.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure. I don't even know if I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>had that.

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<v Speaker 3>Number of thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Ivers all right, so iverson three time first team

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA, three times second Team All NBA, one All.

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.639
<v Speaker 4>NBA Third Team. He won League.

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<v Speaker 2>MVP obviously, three top five finishes, four time scoring champ

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<v Speaker 2>three times steals.

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<v Speaker 4>Champ career points per.

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<v Speaker 2>Game twenty seven that is seventh all time and of

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<v Speaker 2>the last fifty years, behind only MJ. Lebron and Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 2>What are his postseason accomplishments. He's the best player on

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<v Speaker 2>a finalist hands down. Three career fifty point game playoff

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<v Speaker 2>games three times. Only Wilton and Michael Jordan have done

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<v Speaker 2>that more. Ten career forty point playoff games. That's tenth

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<v Speaker 2>most all time, the seventh most in the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty points per.

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<v Speaker 2>Game in the playoffs second all time, behind only Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five minutes per game in the playoffs third all time,

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<v Speaker 2>behind only Wilt and Russell. So no player in the

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<v Speaker 2>last fifty years has played more minutes per game in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs than now. Alan iverson his first career playoff

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<v Speaker 2>appearance twenty nine points per game in forty five minutes

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 2>per game his first year in the postseason. But then,

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<v Speaker 2>what he's all remembered for the most not just the

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<v Speaker 2>stepover of Tylu, but the.

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<v Speaker 4>One finals run. On that finals run.

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<v Speaker 2>He was thirty three, five and six on four and

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>forty six minutes per game. He had two fifty point

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<v Speaker 2>playoff games versus Vince in the Eastern Conference semifinals. This

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<v Speaker 2>is something and Demonsy's gonna ask me an Iverson question

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. Not yet, but I almost want to make

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<v Speaker 2>you go back on YouTube and watch one Eastern Conference

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<v Speaker 2>semifinals because it's Apex Vince Carter, it's Apex Allen Iverson

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<v Speaker 2>and they are just trading fifty point games.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good. Ended up ending.

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<v Speaker 2>Vince missed a shot Game seven at the buzzer to

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<v Speaker 2>move on. Iverson then went to play Ray Allen when

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>ray Allen was with the Bucks in the conference finals.

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<v Speaker 2>But so he has two fifty point games against Vince

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<v Speaker 2>in the Eastern Conference semis and then against ray Allen

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<v Speaker 2>in those Bucks He's forty four, six and seven in

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<v Speaker 2>the elimination game to move on to the finals.

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<v Speaker 4>And then in.

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<v Speaker 2>That same series, he had forty six in game five

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<v Speaker 2>when they were trying to move on to the finals

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 2>against the Bucks, but they lost first NBA Finals, the

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>game of his career forty eight, five and six, the

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<v Speaker 2>stepover of Tylou. And it should be noted that Lakers

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>team that he beat that was their only loss of

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<v Speaker 2>that postseason. That Lakers team was running through the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>Iverson beat and that's their only loss of that entire postseason,

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and they had no business beating them, even that one game.

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean that Lakers. That was the Apex Shock. Kobe

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<v Speaker 2>was not Apex Kobe, but he was absolutely amazing and

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the sixer Steel game one. For those finals, he averaged

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty six, six and four. A couple of years later,

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>gave starts off the playoffs by scoring fifty five against

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, Baron Davis and New Orleans. A lot of

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 2>people compare him to Russell Westbrook because a lot of

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>volume and not a lot of efficiency.

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<v Speaker 4>What I don't think people understand what AI is.

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<v Speaker 2>Those teams he was on is certainly early in his

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 2>career demanded that type of volume. You wanted Aaron McKee

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>taking those shots. You wanted to Kimba taking those shots.

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>You wanted Todd McCullough taking those shots, of course, not

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Eric snow. Iverson had to be the guy to score.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>He had to be the guy taking those shots, and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was able to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was able to do it despite I've stood

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<v Speaker 2>next to him shorter than I am. I'm a touch

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<v Speaker 2>over six feet tall, and he is my height at best.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the thirtieth greatest player of the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the most iconic and legendary players ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Iverson demons, what's your Iverson question?

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<v Speaker 4>He averaged twenty six points per game in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could draw a straight line from him to Iverson,

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<v Speaker 2>not Iverson, Curry and Kyrie.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think anybody could have stopped him in any era?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I think he's getting buckets in any era.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I think Alan Iverson is going to

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<v Speaker 2>score the II who was too physical in the eighties. No, too,

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>he's too fast. He was an elite athlete. He was

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>an All state quarterback in high school. No, he's one

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest athletes ever. His game just didn't age great,

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and there is an element of the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>was not able to readily as to a lesser role,

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<v Speaker 2>which kind of deprived him of a final act of

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<v Speaker 2>his career. But he got the absolute most out of

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>his talent. Some people, listen, there are gonna be some

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<v Speaker 2>names that are in the twenties, particularly point guards, that

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna say Iverson was better than them, And

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe at his apex he was, but those guys were

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>able to play far longer.

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<v Speaker 4>But again.

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<v Speaker 2>He is tenth all time in career forty point playoff games,

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<v Speaker 2>third all time in career fifty point playoff games. His

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<v Speaker 2>playoff average is thirty points per game in forty five

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>minutes per game. The guy was an indefatigable warrior. He

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the most important players in modern NBA history.

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<v Speaker 2>He's number thirty on my fifty Greatest Players of Last

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years. One Alan iverson. We'll be right back next

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<v Speaker 2>week where we get into players inside the top thirty,

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>including the most stylish player in NBA history, who also

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>had one of the greatest game sevens in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 2>That's next week because we can continue the fifty Greatest

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<v Speaker 2>Players of the Last fifty years and What's Right with

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Right podcast