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Speaker 2: Welcome into another special edition of the What Dry with

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Speaker 2: Nick Right podcast and YouTube show the fifty greatest players

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Speaker 2: of the last fifty years in the NBA. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't caught up yet, we've already done players fifty through

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Speaker 2: thirty five. Today we will finish out the thirties and

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Speaker 2: above give you players thirty four through thirty And I

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Speaker 2: didn't intentionally do this, but this all of these players

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Speaker 2: kind of pair well together. You have two of the

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Speaker 2: best second options on dynasties, you have two of the

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Speaker 2: best perimeter defensive players ever, and you have one of

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Speaker 2: the most underrated and forgotten players of NBA history paired

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Speaker 2: with someone some would argue is one of the most

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Speaker 2: overrated and far too relevant in the contemporary pop culture

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Speaker 2: and NBA history. So that those are five guys, we

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Speaker 2: will start with number thirty four.

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Speaker 3: Number thirty four Kevin McHale.

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Speaker 2: So Kevin mcchale's All NBA and MVP finishes, that part

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Speaker 2: of his resume is not great. He's only first team

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Speaker 2: All NBA one time, he only has one top five

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Speaker 2: MVP finish, is two times six Man of the Year,

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Speaker 2: but six Men of the Year typically aren't top fifty.

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Speaker 4: All time guys.

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Speaker 2: And he has six time All Defense And whenever you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Kevin McHale, you have to mention his legendary footwork,

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Speaker 2: a guy that Charles Barkley said was the hardest player

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Speaker 2: he ever had to defend. So when your resume is

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Speaker 2: that light on individual accomplishments, how do you get not

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Speaker 2: only make this list, but make the top thirty five

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Speaker 2: of this list. Well, he's a three time champion, five

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Speaker 2: time finalist, and he was the second best player on

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Speaker 2: I would argue two of those championship runs, the title

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Speaker 2: in eighty one, he wasn't their second best player yet,

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Speaker 2: but he was Birds robin to Birds batman for the

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Speaker 2: majority of the Celtics dynasty, and he showed up in

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Speaker 2: the biggest moments nineteen eighty five when the Celtics lost

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Speaker 2: in six to the Lakers. He had thirty two and

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Speaker 2: twenty six and eleven for that series, leading the Celtics

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Speaker 4: Again, the two big men.

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Speaker 2: For Houston in the eighty six finals are Ralph Sampson

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Speaker 2: five and six thirty three and eight followed by twenty

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Speaker 2: nine to ten once again in that finals, he leads

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Speaker 2: the Celtics in points per game, So back to back

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Speaker 2: finals he scores more points than Larry Bird. So again,

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Speaker 2: this isn't a situation where it was just Larry Bird

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Speaker 2: carrying the Celtics dynasty. And I understand Parish is a

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Speaker 2: player a lot of historians, and he's on the NBA

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Speaker 2: Top fifty, in the top seventy five list. I think

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Speaker 2: Parish is a touch overrated and McHale's a touch underrated.

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Speaker 4: Eighty five and eighty six finals.

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Speaker 2: McHale leads the Celtics in points per game in both finals,

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Speaker 2: and he's doing it against having to guard Kareem in

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Speaker 2: the eighty five finals, having to guard Sampson or a

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Speaker 2: Keem in the eighty six finals, or at least being

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Speaker 2: Then you go to you move on, and Kevin McHale

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight. What happens, He's twenty five and eight

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Speaker 2: that Kevin McHale was not just a supporting actor in

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Speaker 2: Let's go to one of our callers that has a

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Speaker 2: Kevin mcchale question.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Nick, I know a little bit about Kevin McHale,

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Speaker 5: and you know how important he was these Celtics teams,

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Speaker 4: Was the scoring or the rebounding.

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Speaker 5: You know, he was an enforcer who could also really

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Speaker 5: score the ball. But realistically, what do you think the

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Speaker 5: Lebron James and Kevin McHale eleven?

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, at a certain point, don't you have to

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Speaker 5: in the post.

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Speaker 3: Let me know what you think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen.

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Speaker 2: Of course McHale would get roasted in a one on

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Speaker 2: one game against many guys, and comparing him to Lebron

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Speaker 2: who's going to show up on the spoiler alert in

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Speaker 2: the top three of this list is unfair. But his

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Speaker 2: contributions to winning basketball cannot be overstated.

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Speaker 4: And on top of that, what.

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Speaker 2: I want people to unders and again not to restate

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Speaker 2: my own points, but there's a guy that averaged twenty

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Speaker 2: six and eleven in the eighty five finals average, led

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Speaker 4: He wasn't just he wasn't a role player.

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Speaker 2: Now, would a team with Kevin McHale is their best

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Speaker 2: guy have been a champion? Probably not, but would he

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Speaker 2: have undoubtedly had multiple top five MVP finishes instead of

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Speaker 2: just the one. I think so I'm very comfortable with

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Speaker 2: him as the second best supporting actor, if you will,

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Speaker 2: in NBA history, being number thirty four, and that leads

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Speaker 2: us seamlessly to number thirty three.

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Speaker 3: Number thirty three, Scottie Pippen.

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Speaker 2: So Scotty Pippins's resume is he's got a lot of

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Speaker 2: things going for me. He is three times first Team

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Speaker 2: MVP voting twice, one third place finish, and the first

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Speaker 4: Won fifty five games.

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Speaker 2: And this is where I'm contractually obligated to remind you

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Speaker 2: the Bulls won. Michael Jordan in his career won zero

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Speaker 2: playoff series and only one playoff game before Scotty Pippen

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Speaker 2: was with him, and once he once, Jordan didn't have

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Speaker 2: Pippen anymore. Those Wizard years never saw the playoffs. So

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Speaker 2: let's not act like Scotty Pippen was just writing Jordan's

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Speaker 2: coat tails. So what postseason accomplishment is a big part

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Speaker 2: of this. Obviously second best player on a six time

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Speaker 4: Rookie year, Game five, first.

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Speaker 2: Round elimination game, He's twenty four to six and five

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Speaker 2: against Cleveland for the first Michael Jordan and Chicago Bulls

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Speaker 4: Now, the next few years are tough for him.

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Speaker 2: Eighty nine and ninety against the Pistons. Eighty nine in

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Speaker 4: Series, he only plays one minute.

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Speaker 2: Ninety in Game seven is the Migraine game. They talked

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Speaker 2: he rallied after that ninety one, the close out game

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Speaker 2: to win the Bulls first title. What did Scotty Pippen

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Speaker 2: do thirty two, thirteen seven and five thirty two points,

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Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds, seven assists, five steals to win their first

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Speaker 2: title the next year ninety two against the Knicks. Now

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Speaker 2: this is important because the Knicks were one of only

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Speaker 2: two teams ever take the Bulls seven games on their

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Speaker 2: six title runs. Right Game seven against the Knicks seventeen, eleven,

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Speaker 2: eleven and three. By the way, also in that series

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Speaker 2: against the Knicks, in the last dance, they talked about

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan catching all that flak for going to Atlantic

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Speaker 2: What they left out of that is Game three. The

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Speaker 2: Bulls are down two. This is the year they win

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Speaker 2: their second title. Michael goes three for eighteen after gambling

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Speaker 2: all night in ac What does Scotty do? Scotty had

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Speaker 2: twenty nine points on twelve shots to help them stave

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Speaker 2: four of the next five, and they end up going

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Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals. That, by the way, in the

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Speaker 2: closeout game to go to the NBA Finals in ninety two.

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Speaker 4: Twenty nine twelve five, four and four.

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Speaker 4: And then, and this is important, guys.

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Speaker 2: We already talked about what he did the year without Jordan,

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Speaker 2: the famous Nick Anderson game, not the miss free throws,

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Speaker 2: Magic Scotty was twenty six, twelve and six in that

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Speaker 4: He showed up in that game.

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Speaker 2: During the playoffs the second three Pat This is when

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Speaker 2: Scotty was a little past his prime. He's eighteen seven

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Speaker 2: and five for the three pat his playoff career high.

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Speaker 2: He actually did his first year without Michael when he

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Speaker 2: was with the Rockets, he scored thirty seven and he's

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Speaker 2: played two hundred and six career playoff games, so two

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Speaker 2: eighteen eight and five, so one of the greatest defenders ever.

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Speaker 2: He showed up in the postseason after the Migraine moment

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety and he won six titles. He,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt, deserves to be on this list. Let's

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Speaker 2: go to a caller who is a Scottie Pippen comment.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Nick, you know why you're overrating Scottie Pippen. Let

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Speaker 6: me remind you who he played with. His name was

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Speaker 6: Michael Jordan, the greatest player to ever play the game.

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Speaker 6: How long did it take Scotty Pippen to get good

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Speaker 6: enough so Jordan could have one damn all star perennial

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Speaker 6: to play with to win championships? It took him four years.

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Speaker 6: The dude came in as an eight points per game scorer.

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Speaker 6: He had a bad back, He didn't know what he

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Speaker 6: was doing on the court, and day after day and

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Speaker 6: practice after practice, Mike continually lifted him up.

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Speaker 3: Michael leaves. What does Scotty do?

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Speaker 6: They lose to the next Tony Kuk coach bails him

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Speaker 6: out in Game three, he doesn't do anything in the

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Speaker 6: fourth quarter. In Game seven against New York, he leaves

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Speaker 3: What happens in Portland?

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Speaker 6: They melt down against the Lakers in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 6: blow a Game seven. He's one chance to go back

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Speaker 6: to the finals. Whenever Michael left. Scotty did nothing. You

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Speaker 6: love to talk about. Oh, they won fifty five games, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: they won fifty five games. They lost in the second

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Speaker 6: damn round. Scotty Pippin without Mike is a very good

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Speaker 3: They beat the dam Detroit Pistons.

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Speaker 6: Scotty was killing Michael waiting for him to get good.

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Speaker 4: Okay, listen, full disclosure.

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Speaker 2: That's my buddy Mark Carmon, who does a great job

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Speaker 4: Television in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: He is also a Michael Jordan superfan, and like most

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Speaker 2: don't try to tear down Dwayne Wade. You're gonna see

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Speaker 2: Jordan fans like to act like Scotty Pippen was a

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Speaker 2: Flatly untrue. So while I love and respect carm he's

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Speaker 2: dead wrong on Pippin. He's the thirty third greatest player ever.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back in What's Right with Nick Wright's

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Speaker 2: special edition the fifty greatest Players of last fifty years

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Speaker 2: in NBA history. Number thirty four was Kevin McHale. Number

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Speaker 2: thirty three was Scottie Pippen. Number thirty two Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 2: three time First Team All NBA, two time second Team

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Speaker 4: So that's the individual accomplishment.

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Speaker 2: The team accomplishments are a little more complicated in the

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Speaker 2: a two time Finals MVP with a bit of an asterisk.

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Speaker 2: That first Finals MVP, the one he got with the Spurs,

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Speaker 2: is other than Andrea Guidalas and wes Unselds, probably the

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Speaker 2: kind of. However, the next Finals MVP he won, it

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Speaker 2: was a no doubter, and that's what I want to

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Speaker 2: where he was the best player on a team. Twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: his last healthy year with the Spurs, Kawhi was twenty

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Speaker 2: eight eight and five, and his shooting splits for that

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Speaker 2: throw line. That all ended when Zaza Pachulia put his

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Speaker 2: one of the Western Garmends Finals, and that essentially also

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Speaker 2: the year with Toronto, he had one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: postseason runs ever twenty nineteen Eastern Conference Semifinals. Here's what

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Speaker 2: Kui does Game one, forty five and eleven, Game four

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Speaker 2: beater in Game seven over Joe LMB to move on

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Speaker 2: to the Eastern Gonmerence Finals. What happened in the Eastern

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Speaker 2: Conference Finals? That was supposed to be the year Yannis

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Speaker 2: Yannis broke through. Remember going on TV saying this is

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Speaker 2: Yanna is gonna win MVP, gonna be the gonna win

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Speaker 2: the championship. The Bucks are rolling, They're up to nothing

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Speaker 2: in that series on Toronto. Game three, goes to I

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Speaker 2: four in a row. In Game five of those Eastern

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Speaker 2: Armens Finals, he's thirty five to seven and nine, and

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Speaker 2: for the playoff run, thirty points nine rebounds per game,

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Speaker 2: his achilles, if play doesn't blow his knee. Maybe, but

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Speaker 2: Kawhi was there for all of it. Then the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one playoff run, So just last year, he's thirty

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Speaker 2: points and eight rebounds a game on fifty seven percent shooting,

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Speaker 2: including forty five and six and a critical Game five

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Speaker 2: against my guy Luca in the MAVs in Round one.

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Speaker 2: But then he tore his ACL and we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: him since. And thus is the rub with Kawhi. Leonard

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Speaker 2: Kawhi showed us in the twenty seventeen postseason that I mean,

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Speaker 4: Then he got hurt twenty.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen posts season, he stays healthy his twenty eighteen base

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Speaker 2: they blow the three one lead twenty twenty one. Oh Man,

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Speaker 2: here comes Kawhi looking like the best player in the

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Speaker 2: best player on a champion. He's been to three finals,

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Speaker 2: He's won two finals MVPs. But it also feels like

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Speaker 2: we almost haven't seen enough of Kawhi Leonard. That's how

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Speaker 2: he sits there at number thirty two. One of the

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Speaker 4: Kawhi, here's my buddy. Kevin Wilds with a Kawhi Leonard question.

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Speaker 3: Called me old fashioned. You know what I like? Finals MVPs.

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Speaker 8: Kawhi, He's got two finals MVPs. Here's a list of

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Speaker 8: guys with two finals MVPs or more. Jordan Lebron, Tim Duncan,

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Speaker 6: That's the list.

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Speaker 3: Everybody else has.

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Speaker 8: Got one or none. I didn't name thirty three guys

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Speaker 8: there are thirty two guys. Kawhi's got to be moved

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Speaker 3: It's got to be moved up, all right.

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Speaker 2: My guy Wilde's his Finals MVP obsession is purely because

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Speaker 2: he's mad that Paul Pierce is not on this list

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Speaker 2: finals MVPs alone. Maybe I would move him up if

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Speaker 2: I valued that first finals MVP as much as other

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Speaker 4: I don't. I just flatly don't.

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Speaker 2: Like guy averaged eighteen and six for that play for

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Speaker 2: that those finals games one. In Games two he had

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Speaker 2: nine points, So I understand you have to give it

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Speaker 2: that was Kawhi's biggest issue. The other issue is this

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Speaker 2: just quickly before I move on, because his top level

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Speaker 2: play has been unbelievable. Kawhi has not played six hundred games.

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Speaker 2: Kawhi does not have how many career assists does he

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Speaker 2: have sixteen hundred career less than four thousand career rebounds.

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Speaker 2: He's not in the top two hundred and fifty all

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Speaker 2: he's thirty. So it's a weird spot where Kawhi. When

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Speaker 2: just hasn't played enough. He's oddly in a similar spot

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Speaker 2: Walton is in. He obviously played more than Walton, but

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Speaker 2: where he is. He is number thirty two. And then

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Speaker 2: not his issue. The fact that young people don't respect

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Speaker 2: history is his issue.

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Speaker 3: Number thirty one Elvin Hayes.

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Speaker 2: Elvin Hayes's numbers are mind blowing. Let me go through

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Speaker 2: one three time first team All NBA, three time second

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Speaker 2: Team All NBA, one time scoring champ, two time rebounding champ,

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Speaker 2: three top five MVP finishes. But here's where it gets crazy.

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Speaker 2: He is fourth on the all time rebounding list. The

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Speaker 2: he averaged twenty one and thirteen and he played eighty

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Speaker 2: eighty one games per year. That was his average his

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Speaker 2: of six games. What are his playoffs accomplishments? A nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy eight champion and the best player on three finalists.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have a finals MVP. More on that in

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Speaker 4: a moment.

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Speaker 2: Career playoff averages twenty three to thirteen and ninety six

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Speaker 2: Braves team forty six twelve, five, three and three. They

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Speaker 2: to Rick Berry. He averages twenty one and eleven. Then

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Speaker 2: three and sixteen to beat Doctor J Who's gonna show

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Speaker 2: When they finally break through and win the championship in

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Speaker 2: seventy eight, and this is one of the most egregious

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Speaker 2: voting results in not sports.

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Speaker 4: History, but in voting history politics.

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Speaker 2: Student Council Finals MVP in the nineteen seventy eight NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: Elvin Hayes averaged twenty one and twelve wes Unseld got

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Speaker 4: That's the true story.

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Speaker 2: Elvin Hayes twenty one and twelve teammate wes Unseld nine

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Speaker 2: as a defending CHAMPI in his first playoff game thirty

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Speaker 2: is the defending champ, he averaged twenty to twelve. In

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Speaker 2: fourth on the all time rebounding list, eleventh on the

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Speaker 2: won at best player on three finalists, won a championship,

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Speaker 2: He's got to be somewhere on anybody's top forty at

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Speaker 2: the very least the last fifty years he gets forgotten.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to our power, Rick Buker, who has an

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Speaker 9: Elvin Hayes is one of those guys that often falls

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Speaker 9: But I have the same question that I had with

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Speaker 9: with the Bullets, would we still look at him the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we wouldn't have. But he was the best

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of these guys, I love Rick Buker,

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Speaker 2: his career. He should have won that finals MVP. He

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Speaker 2: MVP is unbelievable. Longevity unbelievable production. The number thirty one

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Speaker 2: player of the last fifty years, Elvin Hayes, and now

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Speaker 2: he might be like my god, Nick he did six

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Speaker 2: minutes on Elvin Hayes. Okay, number thirty and what we

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Speaker 2: wrapped the show. One of the most famous players in

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Speaker 2: NBA history.

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Speaker 4: He's next. All right, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: We are already to number thirty on the fifty greatest

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Speaker 2: players the last fifty years. And listen, this is like eating.

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Speaker 2: You know, you gotta eat your vegetables to get the dessert.

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Speaker 2: The vegetables were the six minutes on Elvin Hayes, who

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Speaker 2: I think gets forgotten. The nice you know, banana cream

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Speaker 2: pie you're getting for dessert or whatever you want is

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Speaker 2: number thirty. A guy everyone has an opinion on. Why

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Speaker 2: did I say banana cream pie.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I don't even know if I've ever

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Speaker 4: had that.

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Speaker 3: Number of thirty.

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Speaker 2: Alan Ivers all right, so iverson three time first team

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Speaker 2: All NBA, three times second Team All NBA, one All.

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Speaker 4: NBA Third Team. He won League.

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Speaker 2: MVP obviously, three top five finishes, four time scoring champ

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Speaker 2: three times steals.

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Speaker 4: Champ career points per.

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Speaker 2: Game twenty seven that is seventh all time and of

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Speaker 2: the last fifty years, behind only MJ. Lebron and Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: What are his postseason accomplishments. He's the best player on

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Speaker 2: a finalist hands down. Three career fifty point game playoff

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Speaker 2: games three times. Only Wilton and Michael Jordan have done

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Speaker 2: that more. Ten career forty point playoff games. That's tenth

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Speaker 2: most all time, the seventh most in the last fifty years.

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Speaker 4: Thirty points per.

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Speaker 2: Game in the playoffs second all time, behind only Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Forty five minutes per game in the playoffs third all time,

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Speaker 2: behind only Wilt and Russell. So no player in the

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Speaker 2: last fifty years has played more minutes per game in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs than now. Alan iverson his first career playoff

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Speaker 2: appearance twenty nine points per game in forty five minutes

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Speaker 2: per game his first year in the postseason. But then,

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Speaker 2: what he's all remembered for the most not just the

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Speaker 2: stepover of Tylu, but the.

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Speaker 4: One finals run. On that finals run.

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Speaker 2: He was thirty three, five and six on four and

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Speaker 2: forty six minutes per game. He had two fifty point

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Speaker 2: playoff games versus Vince in the Eastern Conference semifinals. This

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Speaker 2: is something and Demonsy's gonna ask me an Iverson question

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Speaker 2: a moment. Not yet, but I almost want to make

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Speaker 2: you go back on YouTube and watch one Eastern Conference

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Speaker 2: semifinals because it's Apex Vince Carter, it's Apex Allen Iverson

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Speaker 2: and they are just trading fifty point games.

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Speaker 4: It's so good. Ended up ending.

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Speaker 2: Vince missed a shot Game seven at the buzzer to

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Speaker 2: move on. Iverson then went to play Ray Allen when

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Speaker 2: ray Allen was with the Bucks in the conference finals.

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Speaker 2: But so he has two fifty point games against Vince

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Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference semis and then against ray Allen

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Speaker 2: in those Bucks He's forty four, six and seven in

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Speaker 2: the elimination game to move on to the finals.

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Speaker 4: And then in.

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Speaker 2: That same series, he had forty six in game five

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Speaker 2: when they were trying to move on to the finals

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Speaker 2: against the Bucks, but they lost first NBA Finals, the

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Speaker 2: game of his career forty eight, five and six, the

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Speaker 2: stepover of Tylou. And it should be noted that Lakers

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Speaker 2: team that he beat that was their only loss of

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Speaker 2: that postseason. That Lakers team was running through the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: Iverson beat and that's their only loss of that entire postseason,

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Speaker 2: and they had no business beating them, even that one game.

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Speaker 2: I mean that Lakers. That was the Apex Shock. Kobe

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Speaker 2: was not Apex Kobe, but he was absolutely amazing and

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Speaker 2: the sixer Steel game one. For those finals, he averaged

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Speaker 2: thirty six, six and four. A couple of years later,

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Speaker 2: gave starts off the playoffs by scoring fifty five against

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Speaker 2: New Orleans, Baron Davis and New Orleans. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people compare him to Russell Westbrook because a lot of

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Speaker 2: volume and not a lot of efficiency.

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Speaker 4: What I don't think people understand what AI is.

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Speaker 2: Those teams he was on is certainly early in his

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Speaker 2: career demanded that type of volume. You wanted Aaron McKee

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Speaker 2: taking those shots. You wanted to Kimba taking those shots.

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Speaker 2: You wanted Todd McCullough taking those shots, of course, not

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Speaker 2: Eric snow. Iverson had to be the guy to score.

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Speaker 2: He had to be the guy taking those shots, and he.

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Speaker 4: Was able to do it.

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Speaker 2: And he was able to do it despite I've stood

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Speaker 2: next to him shorter than I am. I'm a touch

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Speaker 2: over six feet tall, and he is my height at best.

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Speaker 2: He's the thirtieth greatest player of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the most iconic and legendary players ever.

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Speaker 2: Alan Iverson demons, what's your Iverson question?

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Speaker 4: He averaged twenty six points per game in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could draw a straight line from him to Iverson,

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Speaker 2: not Iverson, Curry and Kyrie.

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Speaker 4: Do you think anybody could have stopped him in any era?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I think he's getting buckets in any era.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think Alan Iverson is going to

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Speaker 2: score the II who was too physical in the eighties. No, too,

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Speaker 2: he's too fast. He was an elite athlete. He was

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Speaker 2: an All state quarterback in high school. No, he's one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest athletes ever. His game just didn't age great,

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Speaker 2: and there is an element of the fact that he

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Speaker 2: was not able to readily as to a lesser role,

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Speaker 2: which kind of deprived him of a final act of

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Speaker 2: his career. But he got the absolute most out of

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Speaker 2: his talent. Some people, listen, there are gonna be some

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Speaker 2: names that are in the twenties, particularly point guards, that

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Speaker 2: people are gonna say Iverson was better than them, And

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Speaker 2: maybe at his apex he was, but those guys were

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Speaker 2: able to play far longer.

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Speaker 4: But again.

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Speaker 2: He is tenth all time in career forty point playoff games,

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Speaker 2: third all time in career fifty point playoff games. His

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Speaker 2: playoff average is thirty points per game in forty five

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Speaker 2: minutes per game. The guy was an indefatigable warrior. He

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Speaker 2: is one of the most important players in modern NBA history.

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Speaker 2: He's number thirty on my fifty Greatest Players of Last

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Speaker 2: fifty years. One Alan iverson. We'll be right back next

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Speaker 2: week where we get into players inside the top thirty,

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Speaker 2: including the most stylish player in NBA history, who also

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Speaker 2: had one of the greatest game sevens in NBA history.

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Speaker 2: That's next week because we can continue the fifty Greatest

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Speaker 2: Players of the Last fifty years and What's Right with

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Speaker 2: Nick Right podcast