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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us as we discuss the intersection of faith,

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Speaker 1: culture and everyday life. Has always a word of hope

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Speaker 1: and encouragement for you and those you love, especially in

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Speaker 1: these challenging times. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host.

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Speaker 1: Our special guest joining this week. He is lead pastor

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Speaker 1: of New Life Church International and Plant City of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Bishop Calvin Coberis is with us. He is New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestselling author, best known for his award winning book

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Speaker 1: The Five Love Languages. Doctor Gary Chapman is with us,

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Speaker 1: and he is the CEO of Intercessors for America. Dave

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Speaker 1: Cabal is with us. He's the president of American Values

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Speaker 1: and Senior vice president for Public Policy for the Doctor

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Speaker 1: James Dobbson Family Institute. Gary Bauer is with us. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for watching.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: At Super Bowl Sunday, big game between the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: and the New England Patriots. An estimate one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty seven million are expected to watch if you include streaming.

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Speaker 1: Some estimates are putting it around two hundred million. That's

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Speaker 1: quite an audience. Social media, it's a Blaze that talks

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Speaker 1: about Kid Rock and this TPUSA turning Point USA alternate

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Speaker 1: to the halftime show put on by the NFL and

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Speaker 1: Bad Bunny. We'll see what happens. CNN reported this week

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Speaker 1: massive national support for voter ID, undercutting Democratic claims that

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Speaker 1: Americans opposed the policy. White voters eighty five percent support it,

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Speaker 1: Latino voters eighty two percent support it, Black voters seventy

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Speaker 1: six percent support it. Everyone is pushing for the Save

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Speaker 1: of America Act and they want to make a photo

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Speaker 1: ID to Vote law, including by the way, Nicki Minaj,

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Speaker 1: who has come out and has cost quite a stir,

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Speaker 1: massive stir in supporting President Donald J. Trump on all this.

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Speaker 1: The Epstein files getting ugly. Bill Gates scandal now all

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Speaker 1: over social media. Clinton's are being forced to testify. Epstein

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Speaker 1: Island catched this. It was in use from nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: eight to twenty nineteen. Victims overall one hundred plus they're

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Speaker 1: ages twelve to seventeen year olds. Arrests so far nothing.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what's going to happen. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember when Elon Musk dropped that bomb about why

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris got so much elite cash. He was saying.

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Speaker 1: Part of why she did that was there was so

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Speaker 1: much going on that billionaires behind her were going to

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Speaker 1: be terrified if this soul Epstein stuff broke loose, and

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Speaker 1: here we go. Fraud, wasting, abuse continue to be front

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Speaker 1: and center and culture. Right now. Fox News is claiming

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Speaker 1: this week, if you can believe this, they've got proof

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Speaker 1: that more than two hundred and fifty million dollars was

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Speaker 1: secretly routed through dark money channels, networks, bankrell anti ICE

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Speaker 1: protests across the country. It's sickening when you think about

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Speaker 1: all this. You got all that fraud, waste abuse going

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Speaker 1: on by state, and now you're seeing that anti ICE

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Speaker 1: protests and deportations stunning. New Pole just came out finding

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Speaker 1: that a super majority of Americans want mass deportations to continue.

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Speaker 1: Catch that sixty percent to thirty four percent. Fifty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of post defunding ICE, fifty four percent say they

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Speaker 1: want ICE to continue operations. Seventy three percent say entering

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Speaker 1: the United States without legal permission is breaking the law.

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Speaker 1: Here we go the public starting to really rally behind

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Speaker 1: all this. And I don't know if you saw the

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Speaker 1: Punseltani Phil this week that groundhog predicted six more weeks

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Speaker 1: it's also Valentine's Day week. This week, the most shop day.

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Speaker 1: Trying to share a message to those that we love

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Speaker 1: that we love them. Americans are projecting to spend twenty

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Speaker 1: nine plus billion dollars, a record this year on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: Gary Chapman, the author of the fame Five Love Languages book,

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Speaker 1: He's going to stop by and share a little bit

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Speaker 1: about his thoughts on love. Hey, in these times, our hope,

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Speaker 1: our strength comes from the Lord. Here's a great verse

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Speaker 1: from the Bible to hold on to this week, Isaiah thirty,

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Speaker 1: verse eighteen. Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you.

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Speaker 1: Therefore he will rise up to show you compassion. For

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Speaker 1: the Lord is a God of justice. Blessed are all

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Speaker 1: those who wait on him. I'm going to pray. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get started. God be with us. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for this privilegeous opportunity, Use it for your glory. I

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Speaker 1: pray with this in the strong name of Jesus. Amen.

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Speaker 1: Let's get started. Joyce Now is Bishop Calvin Colbertis. He

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Speaker 1: Faith Advisory Board, a strong voice on righteousness and culture. Bishop,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, doctor Tim. Thank you for having me. Bishop.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday, the Seahawks of the Patriots should be

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Speaker 1: Go Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Bishop. Hey halftime show has been what's blowing up social media?

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Speaker 1: Bad bunny. You know NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell saying that

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Speaker 1: just bonkers over it. TPUSA turning point USA, Bishop, they're

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Speaker 1: launching their own an alternate halftime show. Kid rocks in

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Speaker 2: I celebrate TV USA for providing an alternative because I

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Speaker 2: believe that if we watch that halftime show, we are

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Speaker 2: complicit in holding the behavior that is coming against the

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl halftime. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Gaddell said, the show is designed to United Americans. My goodness,

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Speaker 1: you saw what bad Bunny did at the Grammys in

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Speaker 1: the morning. It's like, come on, this is unbelievable. Bishop,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what. Things have stirred up, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, things are stirring up, and I'm glad that us,

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Speaker 2: as the righteous side, are stirring up and standing against it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of blowing up social media, Nicki minaj Bishop, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean she's standing boldly with President Donald J. Trump,

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Speaker 1: teamed up with Elon Musk talking hey, in particular about

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Speaker 1: voter ID. It was amazing to see what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I saw one post of her had on nearly fifty

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Speaker 1: Bishop, But what do you make of the Democratic party

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Speaker 2: Doctor Clint, that's exactly what's happening, because this whole immigration

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Speaker 2: reform is really highlighting and shining a light on voter

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Speaker 2: fraud because we've used illegal immigrants and undocumented citizens to

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Speaker 1: You know what's amazing to me is Fox News reported

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Speaker 2: The ship. This is what I'm talking about. Everybody is

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Speaker 2: coming together realizing what the truth is. And the only

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Speaker 2: People are coming into the knowledge of truth and they're

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Speaker 2: wanting truth to be upheld and things to be done right.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, Propaganda is what social media and the media are

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Speaker 1: the fake news you know, out constantly, and people like God,

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Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable. Is this really really really true? But

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Speaker 1: got to pray. Bishop, how do you how do you

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Speaker 1: how do you share with your own people in your

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the ways I let them know that

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Speaker 2: God loves all people. But God has also set law

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Speaker 2: Every administration had to deal with it, but no one

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Speaker 2: create and celebrate a civil war. But I think as

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Speaker 2: prophetic messengers, we have to bring people back to the

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Speaker 2: truth of the Word. You got to hold a newspaper

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Speaker 2: to be. And when we understand that, we go back

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Speaker 2: to the hope that lies in the Word of God

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Speaker 2: that at the end of the day we are victorious.

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Speaker 2: We will win, we will come out on top. But

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Speaker 2: there are going to be some treacherous moments, some dark

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Speaker 2: show compassion to all men, and let Christ in us,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Chapman is a trusted pastor, renowned marriage counselor, and

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I'm delighted to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Gary. I know this.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what I learned is that what makes

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Speaker 3: One of them is words of affirmation? Do you look

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Speaker 1: It's critical that we see this work at every phase

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Speaker 3: That's why I wrote the Five Love Languages of Children.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been working on a bunch of new projects.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the first thing is our relationship with God.

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Speaker 3: If we don't have a love relationship with God and

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Speaker 3: we're not committed to understand that every command He ever

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Speaker 3: gave was for our good because He loves us. If

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Speaker 3: we don't have a loving relationship with God, we're going

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Speaker 3: to revert to being who we are by nature, and

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Speaker 3: that's selfish and two selfish people are never going to

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Speaker 3: have a good marriage. No, we have to have, first

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Speaker 3: of all, experienced God's love and then let him love

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Speaker 3: through us the other person, whomever they are. And even

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Speaker 3: in a marriage where the other person is not loving you,

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Speaker 3: remember God loved us when we were sinners. So don't

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Speaker 3: wait till they love you. You be the initiator. We can't

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Speaker 3: make them love us, but we can influence them. And

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Speaker 3: by speaking their love language on a regular basis, you're

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Speaker 3: having the most positive influence you can have on another person.

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Speaker 1: Gary, you're continuing to write. You are also of developing

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Speaker 1: assessments that people can use online and other resources and tools.

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Speaker 1: If people want to learn more about you, maybe how

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Speaker 1: they could tap into some of these Where could they go?

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Speaker 3: The website is five Love Languages dot com. That's the

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Speaker 3: number five, five Love Languages dot com. And you can

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Speaker 3: find they're a survey of all of my books. You

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Speaker 3: can find where I'm going to be speaking at some

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Speaker 3: of my Saturday marriage conferences. In fact, you can find

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Speaker 3: more than you want to know if you go to

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Speaker 3: that website.

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Speaker 1: Gary, We're always grateful for you taking time out of

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Speaker 1: your very busy schedule, especially right now. But thank you

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Speaker 1: and God to be with you. We always appreciate you well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tim, you keep up the good work too.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Bless you're my friend. Coming up next and he is

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Intercessors for America. Dave Cabal is with us.

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Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 4: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 4: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Joyce now is Dave Cable. He currently serves as CEO

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Speaker 1: and Resident of Intercessors for America, a massive grassroots organization

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Speaker 1: that unite citizens in community prayer and action on issues

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Speaker 1: confronting America. Dave, welcome, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Always great to be with you, Doctor Clinton.

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Speaker 1: Hey, super Bowl Sunday. A lot of fun going on,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people are getting together for parties

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But Dave, when you look at

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Speaker 1: what's been happening over the last couple of weeks, months,

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Speaker 1: it's like the world's on fire. It's unbelievable. Franklin Graham's

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Speaker 1: so concerned about law, called the nation to prayer. I

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Speaker 1: know the President the administration that they've launched this America

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Speaker 1: Praise Initiative. The National Prayer Breakfast happened this week up

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Speaker 1: in Washington, over one hundred nations coming together. The President

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Speaker 1: was there. They've talked to us about personal and corporate prayer.

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Speaker 1: Why it's so important for such a time as this.

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Speaker 5: Well, Doctor Clinton, a super Bowl week, right, and in

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Speaker 5: many regards, it's the super Bowl week for prayer because

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Speaker 5: there was so much time and energy focused not only

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Speaker 5: by American leaders, but also leaders from around the globe

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Speaker 5: this pack past week with a National Prayer Breakfast. I

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Speaker 5: was involved in many most of the events, and I

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Speaker 5: can tell you that the passion to pray for nations

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Speaker 5: it's linked to a verse in Isaiah sixty that says

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Speaker 5: in times and we will see the days when the

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Speaker 5: powers of darkness grow across this land. But at the

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Speaker 5: same time, the light shines upon the Church. And I

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Speaker 5: believe we're seeing those events proceed in our very day

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Speaker 5: come forth. We see darkness, so dark, and yet at

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Speaker 5: the same time, the glory of the Lord is shining

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Speaker 5: upon the Church, and there's a passion to pray not

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Speaker 5: only for America, but nations around the globe.

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Speaker 1: Dave, you had an organization called Intercessors for America. It's exploding.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, kind of a grassroots type of organization, and

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Speaker 1: you're talking openly about and praying earnestly for a lot

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Speaker 1: of the issues in Cold Sure right now, tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Ica.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, Intercestors for America has been around for

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Speaker 5: over fifty years, and I always say I have statistical

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Speaker 5: evidence that God is on the move because He's putting

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Speaker 5: on the hearts of millions of Americans to pray for

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Speaker 5: this great nation. And here at ifa intercestors for America,

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Speaker 5: we have the opportunity to be involved in throwing out

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Speaker 5: a net or two, sending out an email some fifteen

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Speaker 5: million emails a month that engage people and mobilize people

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Speaker 5: to pray. So, Doctor Clinton, what I think is the

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Speaker 5: most exciting thing about all of this is is the

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Speaker 5: fact that if God is putting on the hearts of

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Speaker 5: millions to pray for this great nation, that's God to

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Speaker 5: mean He's not done with us.

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Speaker 2: Just got to mean it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave. You guys are also leading an initiative called

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Speaker 1: the American Spiritual Heritage Project. Pretty exciting, A lot of

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Speaker 1: people are talking about it. Share with us some of

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Speaker 1: the details.

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Speaker 5: Well, go to rededicated America dot com and you can

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Speaker 5: have the opportunity to research the spiritual heritage of your area.

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Speaker 5: We've created this proprietary research tool advanced research tools so

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Speaker 5: that you can delve into the spiritual heritage of the county,

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Speaker 5: the area that you live in and I've been so

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Speaker 5: excited to see this project in it's all about recounting

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Speaker 5: God's hand upon our nation. And Doctor Clinton, You're going

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Speaker 5: to be so and encourage when I tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready? I'm ready? Okay.

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Speaker 5: So, we have done research all across this nation and

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Speaker 5: we have created a tool people can find the spiritual

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Speaker 5: heritage of their area. And I asked our tech team,

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Speaker 5: I said, is there any place in America where we

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Speaker 5: cannot produce multiple stories of the hand of God upon

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Speaker 5: that area, that county, that zip code. They crunched numbers,

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Speaker 5: and about a week later they came back to me

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Speaker 5: and said, Dave, there is not a single place in

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Speaker 5: of God upon that area.

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Speaker 1: And that's fascinating. Yeah, that's fascinating. It really is. And

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Speaker 1: Dave an example or two of something along the lines

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Speaker 1: of what you've been finding.

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Speaker 5: Well, so go to rededicated America dot com and you'll

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Speaker 5: answer six questions and you will have detailed stories of

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Speaker 5: God's hand upon your area. Of course, I did it

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Speaker 5: in my area, and I was surprised that just probably

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Speaker 5: about six miles from my house, dating back to the

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Speaker 5: seventeen hundreds was an outpost for a great move of

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Speaker 5: God that has swept through the area. And the message

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Speaker 5: that has to be clear through all of this is

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Speaker 5: that God is a God of covenants. God is a

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Speaker 5: God of generational covenant. And I believe what has happened

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Speaker 5: in Loudon County. I lived in Lowden County, right outside

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Speaker 5: of Washington.

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Speaker 6: D C.

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Speaker 5: What God put in place through the faithfulness of those

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Speaker 5: some two three hundred years ago almost now that we're

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Speaker 5: living that today with intercessors for America. Because who would

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Speaker 5: have put the headquarters of the nation's largest governmental prayer

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Speaker 5: ministry in a little town called Purcellville, Virginia without that

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Speaker 5: great spiritual heritage, those generational covenants based on the faithfulness

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Speaker 5: of those who've gone before us. So I think that's

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Speaker 5: pretty exciting.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: Dave.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, pretty recent, but you were

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Speaker 1: party to a lawsuit with the NRB and the National

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Speaker 1: Religious Broadcasters. They came against you. Get strong. We know

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Speaker 1: there was a real assault on religious liberty in this

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Speaker 1: country in the past administration. Thank god, faith is back

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Speaker 1: and we're seeing religious liberties now all over again. But Dave,

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Speaker 1: it was related to Theohnson Amendment. Tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about what happened and what the outcome was.

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Speaker 5: Well, the greatest persecutor, the single greatest persecutor of the

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Speaker 5: church in the United States for the past seventy years,

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Speaker 5: the Johnson Amendment that chilled the speech, that quieted, that

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Speaker 5: into politics because they might lose their C three status,

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Speaker 5: a nonprofit in all of the seven years. But the

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Speaker 5: fact of the matter is is that the Johnson Amendment

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Speaker 5: wouldn't go into the realm of politics. And so National

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Speaker 5: Religious Broadcasters, Intercessors for America, and two pastors in Texas,

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Speaker 5: the four of US sued the I R S and

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Speaker 5: we said enough, you don't apply this consistently across the board.

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Speaker 5: You know, when it's heavy political season, Democratic candidates typically

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Speaker 5: of politics of the campaign. It happens every time, and

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Speaker 5: yet self censoring organizations like Intercessors for America, we don't

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Speaker 5: want to break the law, so we don't delve into that.

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Speaker 5: But so we said, either apply it consistently across the board,

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Speaker 5: S settled with US, settled with a national Religious Broadcasters,

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Speaker 5: Intercessors for America and two pastors, and they said, listen,

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Speaker 5: we will, we will relieve churches from from the Johnson Amendment.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't broaden it to all nonprofits, but they

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Speaker 5: said that we will, we will take relief. Pastors can

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Speaker 5: take relief from this law. And so we said absolutely,

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Speaker 5: So we signed that settlement, and the settlement went has

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Speaker 5: to be okay through the court system. And so currently

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Speaker 5: as this is being recorded, we are about twenty days away,

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Speaker 5: maybe ten days away from the opportunity for the judge to.

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Speaker 2: Make final judgment.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so we're pretty excited, Dave. In the midst of

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Speaker 1: all of it, we're learning now too that there are

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Speaker 1: real efforts to protect religious expression in the federal workplace,

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Speaker 1: which is a pretty big deal. And hopefully this spills

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Speaker 1: down into all of culture. Dave I guess I want

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Speaker 1: to end this way. Let's go back to prayer. I

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Speaker 1: saw this verse Psalm one, verse eighteen. The Lord is

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Speaker 1: near to all who call on Him, to all who

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Speaker 1: call on him in truth. And Dave, when I think

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Speaker 1: about maybe people watching right now, most people pray and

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Speaker 1: they cry out to God. I know there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of issues and challenges, but how do you approach

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Speaker 1: in crying out to the Lord?

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Speaker 5: Well, doctor Clinton, You're exactly right. A recent Gallup poll

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Speaker 5: showed that at some point in a typical month, eighty

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Speaker 5: three percent of the American population reach out to God

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Speaker 5: in prayer. And I think that the most amazing thing

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Speaker 5: in all of this is that God created prayer. He

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Speaker 5: created this communication process. This is not something man made

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Speaker 5: where we where we came up with this idea that

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Speaker 5: we can communicate with the eternal Divine One. But over

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Speaker 5: the course of humanity, some six thousand years of recorded humanity,

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Speaker 5: God has consistently showed up and dropped these thoughts, this

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Speaker 5: concept that we can communicate with Him. And so that's

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Speaker 5: the thing that brings me the greatest hope that we

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Speaker 5: have a God, we have a creator that is created

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Speaker 5: a process us a technology where we can talk to him.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't rely on a full battery or you know,

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Speaker 5: strong signal or anything like that. But we have that

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Speaker 5: constant ability to talk to the God of this universe.

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Speaker 5: And so many people take advantage of that, and so

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Speaker 5: many more are being moved by the spirit of God

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Speaker 5: across America to be passionate about praying for this country

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Speaker 5: and for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Not a key chain when I was a kid and

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Speaker 1: had like a little screw driver ends on it, but

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Speaker 1: there was a real thing I kept in my pocket

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Speaker 1: simply said this prayer opens Heaven's doors. Dave. Was a

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Speaker 1: president of public policy for the Doctor Jamestopson Family Institute Gary,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Always great to see you, my friend. Same

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Speaker 1: with you, Tim, Great and happy super Bowl man Seahawks

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Speaker 1: and Patriots. Should be a great game. Who you pulling for?

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Speaker 2: Gary?

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Speaker 6: You know I'm gonna be politically neutraue on this. No

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Speaker 2: I'm uh.

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Speaker 6: I'm just hoping that everybody stands for the national anthem

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Speaker 6: and it's a good game.

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Speaker 2: Gary.

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Speaker 1: The halftime show, good grief. Roger Goodell holding firm with

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Speaker 1: bad Bunny, even after you know, the Grammys and the

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Speaker 1: protesting ice and all that crazy stuff, says it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a halftime show to unite people. People are

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Speaker 1: just blowing up all over it. And TP USA Turning

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Speaker 1: Rock and some others. Gary, your reflections and all that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I would strongly recommend that folks check out the

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Speaker 6: Turning Point USA alternative. But you know, on the on

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Speaker 6: the big question here, Tim, this is so revealing about

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Speaker 6: American elites because no matter what part of American culture

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Speaker 6: and society these elites are in, they're all the same.

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Speaker 6: So you know, sports used to be a beast of

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Speaker 6: they tend to be run by woke, left sympathetic people

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Speaker 6: that want to keep Hollywood happy, want to make sure

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Speaker 6: they don't upset any of the leftists in America. And

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Speaker 6: you know, we see the same thing in Hollywood, we

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Speaker 6: see it in all kinds of American life. And this

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Speaker 6: If they don't if they haven't learned to speak Spanish,

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Speaker 6: give me a break. I'd be happy for our kids

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Speaker 6: can speak correct English.

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Speaker 1: Gary. This week you highlight a little piece called Churches

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Speaker 1: under Siege. We'll go back to Minnesota for a moment.

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Speaker 1: You know, the anti protesters blowing into that church, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying that the people in there worshiping God were demonic.

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Speaker 1: All kinds of crazy stuff. We're finding out about all that.

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Speaker 1: But don Lemon now in the middle of it, you

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Speaker 1: know that, and he was applauded to the Grammys. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi's up there doing some work, as you know,

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Speaker 1: as she should be. But Gary, we saw even this

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Speaker 1: week a church out in California, Catholic church being attacked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's just unbelievable. And I was

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Speaker 1: reflecting on that. I think you mentioned like one hundred

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Speaker 1: churches in Canada, Gary were you know, burnt and you know,

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Speaker 1: vandalized and messed over whatever. And the media just ignores

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Speaker 1: all of it. This religious liberty issue, it's a real concern,

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Speaker 1: a real challenge. And the past administration, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: they were lighting that stuff up, Gary, And I'm just

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Speaker 1: glad to see President Trump standing in the gap here.

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Speaker 1: But man, we've got work to do, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about this stuff.

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Speaker 6: We do, and we need to talk about it. It's

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Speaker 6: it's happening, it's building, and it's it's being done in

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Speaker 6: an atmosphere that's very hostile to Judeo Christian values. So

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Speaker 6: we see increasingly churches and synagogues having security threats. This

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Speaker 6: invasion that took place at that Minneapolis Saint Paul Church

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Speaker 6: was unacceptable of me. I imagine if a conservative media

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Speaker 6: person went in with a group of right wingers into

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Speaker 6: a moss Oh my goodness, service Oh.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, they'd be blowing it up. I mean like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Tom Tim. It's also another reminder of

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Speaker 6: how important it is for Christians to be involved in

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Speaker 6: we had an administration and power that was sending the

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Speaker 6: FBI into Catholic churches to monitor the sermons because they

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Speaker 6: Well that's ended, right, But now we've got an administration

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Speaker 6: that when a church is violated by as they were

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Speaker 6: in Saint Paul in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, this administration enforces

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Speaker 6: the law and is going to hold these people accountable.

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Speaker 1: Gary can't go without asking about Nicki Minaj blowing up

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Speaker 1: social media and this whole voter fraud issue. But she

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Speaker 1: joined with President Trump, I mean boldly, unashamedly. I'm talking millions,

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Speaker 1: I think nearly fifty million views on just some of

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Speaker 1: her posts recently. It's crazy, but she just calling it out,

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Speaker 1: just calling it straight up, and people are loving it.

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Speaker 1: And she's saying, listen, this garbage overfoter ide. We've got

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Speaker 1: to get this Save Act through through legislation. Gary, talk

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Speaker 1: to us about how important is it.

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Speaker 6: The Save Act is incredibly important. Every provision of it

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Speaker 6: are things that the pulling data shows overwhelmingly the American

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Speaker 6: people's support. Now, what's going to happen as we begin

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Speaker 6: to move it through Congress is that the left and

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Speaker 6: their media allies unanimously are going to tell the American people, Oh,

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Speaker 6: look at what they're doing. They're trying to stop minorities

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Speaker 6: from voting. They're trying to limit your right to vote.

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Speaker 6: This is all their effort to steal the elections. It's

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Speaker 6: the exact opposite. It's our effort to safeguard our elections.

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Speaker 6: And that's why when somebody like this singer, an African

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Speaker 6: it undermines the left effort to make this look like

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Speaker 6: this is some sort of racial issue. All aspects of

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Speaker 6: happen to show a deentification in order to vote. So

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Speaker 6: I hope the people Congress, our friends in Congress, stand

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Speaker 6: tough on this. This is necessary to do and it

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Speaker 6: will help restore confidence in our elections.

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Speaker 1: Now, as you look at this whole immigration issue and

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Speaker 1: everything we're witnessing, and then see all this fraud, this waste,

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Speaker 1: fraud and abuse stuff. Gary, billions of billions and billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars American taxpayer moneies going to buy votes. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: It's just it's beyond shocking. I mean, I just can't

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Speaker 1: even imagine that this is true. But here we are

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Tim, I've always I've said this for years.

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Speaker 6: Corruption is a huge issue, and I believe it's an

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Speaker 6: issue that the American people care about, and this administration

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Speaker 6: is fighting corruption. We're seen, particularly in these unfortunately Democrat

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Speaker 6: run big cities. There's corruption in every program, housing, food stamps,

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Speaker 6: whatever it is, there's corruption. And yet we're told that

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Speaker 6: when it comes to voting, these same big cities don't

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Speaker 6: allow any corruption at all. We know that's not true.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I sure hope you enjoy some wings and a

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Speaker 1: good game. Gary. Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Great to be with you. Tim.

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Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 4: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: You know, in closing, these are unprecedented times. They're difficult, times.

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Speaker 1: But I believe God's in control, and I know he's

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Speaker 1: at work. I hope you're pressing close to Him in

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Speaker 1: be in your life. Our hope, our strength comes from

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Speaker 1: the Lord. Here's an encouraging verse again from the Bible

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Speaker 1: to hold on to this week, Isaiah thirty, verse eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you. I

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Speaker 1: For the Lord is a god of just just Blessed

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Speaker 1: are all those who wait, who wait on him. Help

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Speaker 1: and direction in your everyday life. But let me also say,

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Speaker 1: You don't have to live like that. Simply taking a

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Speaker 1: And also there are a lot of resources now available

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Speaker 1: with God in Christ, you can do that right now

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Speaker 1: by asking Him to come into your life simply praying

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Speaker 1: You can pray it after me, Lord Jesus, I need you.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm a sinner. I believe he died on

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Speaker 1: I want to invite you to come into my heart,

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Speaker 1: you as my Lord and savior. God, thank you for

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Speaker 1: gift of forgiveness and eternal life. I pray all this

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Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says John three point sixteen.

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Speaker 1: For God so love the world that he gave his

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Speaker 1: And I believe if you prayed that prayer from your

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