WEBVTT - “I ACCIDENTALLY ATE A DOG” 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.280 Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up man? 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:07.000 Ah, not too much. I didn't think I was going 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.960 to get through. I tried calling earlier, and I was 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.440 listening to a few other calls, but figure, I give 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.320 it one last try. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.919 My week has been okay, you know. I mean, I've 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.000 been thinking about the caller who said that life is 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.200 a spiral a lot, and I agree with that a lot. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.200 Like I think there's just like a lot of spiral. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:32.920 There's a lot of spiraling, but it's good. It's in 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.720 you know, you know, like the analogy that like life 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:40.720 is a spiral, but each time you go in the cycle, 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.120 you gain a little bit more information, you know what 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:43.800 I'm talking about. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.599 Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think there's always something new 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.440 to learn with every experience you go through, even if 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.800 it's like a similar experience. You know, there's always something 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.880 something new to get I agree with that. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.000 Anyway, what's up with you? 0:00:59.000 --> 0:00:59.160 Man? 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.600 Would you want to talk about today? 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.360 So? You know, I always thought about what I would 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:07.959 talk about if I were to get in the call, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:13.119 and I think one of the one story I'd love 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:17.800 to share is so I grew up Mormon. I'm not 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:24.520 Mormon anymore, but I like served a mission in the Philippines, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:31.120 and I was there's just one time that I ate 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.600 dog and I didn't know that it was dog until 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.920 after the fact. And I think about that a lot, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.840 Like I can't believe that somebody had bamboozeled me into 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.840 eating like a dog and it was like it was 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.319 a pet that they had for a while. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:53.360 Really, yeah, how did they bamboozle you into eating a dog? 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:53.480 Like? 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.200 What did they present it as? 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.400 So in the Philippines, they have this dish called chicken 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.440 a dobo and it's it's really good. It's like this 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:06.559 chicken that they put in soy sauce and it's got 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.680 like all this other stuff in it. But it's like 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:15.200 marinated chicken. And that's what they presented it. As we 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.600 were visiting this like family that we would go to 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.240 every week, and we have been there for I would say, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.760 like five weeks. Over the course of five weeks, he's 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.840 been visiting them, and they told us about this birthday 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:33.280 party and we, you know, we thought we'd stop by 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.280 for a little bit get some food. Because the people 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.400 they love celebrating whatever, and they always find an excuse 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.480 to make a lot of food. And so when we 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.440 get there, she sits us down, gets us a play 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.560 of all the food and the chicken, the dobo, lupia ponset, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.280 all that stuff, and as we're eating, she like just 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.400 sits next to us and she's just like, so, how 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.560 is it? And we're like, you know, it's good, Like 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.639 it's not out of the ordinary, it's it's really good food. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.079 And she had these like two dogs that we would 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.359 constantly see whenever we would visit, but we'd only notice 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.440 like one of them around. And then she like kind 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.360 of ask us again, like so, like you know, like 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.359 is there anything different about the chicken? And we're like, no, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.280 not really, and then she's like, well, have you noticed 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.919 that this dog isn't hereious, he's not like walking around. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.480 We're like, you know, we actually have noticed it. And 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.440 then she she looks at the plate and she's like 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.400 do you want to know like what you're eating? And 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.120 like is it not chicken? A double? And she's just 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.880 smiles at us and it's like no, like that's that's dog. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.760 And we're just like already halfway through our plate and 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.840 it's like I don't we didn't know how to process it. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.640 I kind of finished it because it was good. But wait, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.000 wait after the fact, I didn't really feel that good. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:01.360 Wait wait wait, wait you finished it. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:02.880 I'm not gonna spit it out. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:03.440 In front of them. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.320 It wasn't bad, like really, I mean it was, Yeah, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.240 it wasn't bad. It was pretty well seasoned. Kind of 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.520 crazy thing to say, but I can it was. It 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.680 wasn't bad. I wouldn't eat it again because afterwards, like 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.040 we're walking and like my body felt a little hot. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.240 Like the best way I can explain it is, you 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.440 know when you kind of drink and like your like 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.680 stomach gets a little warm and stuff like that. That's 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.520 kind of how how it felt afterwards. I don't know 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:41.360 if it's because it's dog or something, but I didn't 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:42.200 get sick or anything. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.440 Did you Did it taste like chicken. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:48.760 For the most part? Yeah? 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.560 Interesting? So how okay? So how long was the period 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.960 of time between when you found out and when you 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.760 took the next bite? 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.159 It was definitely like like a minute or two. We 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.440 had to like we kind of looked at each other 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.839 and we're just talking to her as she's like telling 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.400 us what it is, and she gets up and leaves 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.279 after like a few minutes after she told us, and 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.360 so we're just like sitting there looking at each other. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.240 And so it was it was about within like five minutes. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:25.880 I'd say, what, did you have any hesitation before diving 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.800 back in or were you like, no, this was pretty good. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.640 I think so. I mean I was thinking about how 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.760 you know, we're eating like a dog, but also like 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:43.640 it you know, when am I gonna have this again? 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.320 Probably never? And I haven't. I haven't ever thought about 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.440 eating the other dog. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.800 You haven't thought about eating a dog since. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:55.719 You know, can't say have. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.040 Are you still a Mormon? 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.719 No? No, I haven't been Mormon for I say, like 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:06.720 two and a half years. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.120 Wait you mentioned that earlier, didn't you. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.000 Yeah, it was super brief. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:19.760 Yeah yeah. And uh so wait, tell me about this mission, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.680 Like what were like what were you doing in the Philippines? 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.760 Like who is this family? 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.920 So the family that we were seeing. So like when 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.760 you're more of a missionary, you're kind of just going 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.000 around meeting people, trying to share your message of the church, 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:41.440 and the main thing is like inviting them to either 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.599 like read whatever you give them or get them to 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.200 give them the church and stuff. And so we were 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.880 like visiting this lady and her family for about five 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.400 weeks at the time, and it's really just fit to 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.320 share whatever we had planned for her, like if they 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.440 ever had any questions about what we would give them 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.080 to read, or if we had a specific message for 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.320 them like that when we ate the dog, like that 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.320 was just like a birthday party. She had invited us too. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.720 We weren't planning on sharing anything. We were just walking by. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:18.040 But yeah, we we were just visiting them, sharing whatever 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.800 we had to share about God. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.520 Did you talk to this woman about God? Before or 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.240 after she fed you the dog? 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:28.840 Uh? 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.560 Before? After? 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.160 Did she did? She did it? Did the message resonate 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.080 with her? 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.120 I think? So I didn't stay in the area long 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:48.280 after that happened, because usually what happens is you'll stay 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:53.880 in a specific area for anywhere between, Like we need 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.080 a six months before you're transferred to a different area 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.480 in your mission. So I was like in the middle 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.880 part of Luzon, which is the main island in the Philippines. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.400 And so I was like in one area which is 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.520 where she was living. And then soon after that I transferred. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.880 I got transferred to a different part of the of 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.120 that area. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:20.960 M what's your life like now? 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:26.200 What do you do, so it's it's pretty normal. I 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:32.240 graduated from college in December, and I'm just a project manager. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:37.120 I work in Corporate America. So I'm just working, hanging 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:42.680 out with friends, just trying to find new hobbies. I 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.640 think recently I've been playing a Starting Valley and that's 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.040 been a very fun one game. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:48.600 It picks up. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.719 I'm playing it whenever I take like my little dummies. 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.920 Do do any of your corporate do any of your 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:59.320 Corporate America homies know that you've et you've eaten a dog? 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.560 I don't think it's come up. I don't think I 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.440 haven't found the right time to tell them this. Right, 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.040 We had a dog con to the office when I 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.679 was new. A co worker's sister had like just adopted 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.880 a puppy, and so that may or may not have 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.559 been the best chance to bring that up, but I 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:21.080 don't think. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:21.839 It probably would have been. 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.240 I don't think I would have brought it up. Then. Yeah, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.920 I probably don't like a new employee. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.600 Yeah, yeah, you want to at least have like some 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.480 you want to be in an executive position before you 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.199 start talking about eating dogs. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.959 Yeah, yeah, like I'm leading meetings, you know, kind of thing, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.160 not Oh, this person just joined. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:51.200 What's your name again, Jason? Jason? Is there anything else 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:52.720 you want to say to the people of the computer 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.000 before we go or talk about or anything like that? 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:03.559 You know, I would say just any kind of people, Uh, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:09.000 spread positivity. And you know, if you're craving a sweet 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:09.800 treat today, go. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:10.080 And get it. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.520 It's Friday. We've all had a long week, so just 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.760 enjoy it. You as well get it. There's a treat 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.320 you've been wanting, go ahead and get it. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:18.680 I kind of want to eat a dog. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.520 Hey, you know what if you want to, no one's 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:25.000 told you that. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.040 I tell you, you know what, I actually before we 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.240 I do actually think it is you know it is 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.040 so funny is that it's weird to me and I 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.680 participate in this thing that's weird to me, which is 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.400 that like it's so shocking that you've eaten a dog, right, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.120 but like what we fucking eat so many chickens and 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.160 cows and pigs and lambs and no one gives a 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.319 fuck about them, you know, So I don't know, I 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.000 got eat it. Like eating a dog is really not 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:56.120 that different. Like there's no like you can't really there's 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:01.960 no true, honest argument why it's should be okay to 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:06.920 eat uh cowls and chickens and not dogs. There's really 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.960 no good there's really no arguments for that. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.920 Yeah, you know, like you think about other countries, like 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.680 you know, Peru, they they're known for eating like guinea pig, 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.040 and I mean I ate also some pretty crazy stuff 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.640 on it, some things like I had fried fried crickets 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.880 that aren't that bad either. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:29.959 Crickets sounds pretty. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.959 Cool, you know, Yeah, they're pretty crunchy. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.320 What did what did the dog did? Did we go 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.200 into what the dog tastes? Like? Did I ask you 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:37.679 that already? 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:39.400 Yeah? 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.679 It's like it's they're pretty I mean, they taste kind 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.960 of like chicken, but it's a little bit like it's 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.040 not as soft as chicken, like think of it as 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.160 like turkey, Like it's kind of thicker. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.199 Did you was there any sauce on it? 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.120 Yeah, so like they served it as chicken adobo and 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.320 so that's like the main thing is like soy sauce 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.360 and they'll have like onions and garlic. Sometimes I'll add 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.840 like slice of the pineapple to make it a little 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.920 bit sweeter, but it's like, yeah, it's like the soy 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.960 sauce kind of thing, but like you can't really tell, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.000 like because the main thing, it's like the color. It 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.480 gets its color from the soy sauce. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.719 Okay, all right, I'm not gonna go out of my 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.400 way to eat a dog. I don't think. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.800 Hey, but I mean, if it's it's presented, if it's. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.440 Presented as something, if it's if it's a situation like you, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.800 if it's presented as something else that I don't know 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.280 what it is, I would eat it. I mean, I 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.480 guess I yeah, in the way like I would eat chicken. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.199 And so if you gave me something and told me 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.040 if it was chicken, I would eat it. And then 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.680 if later you told me it was dog, I don't 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.480 think I would finish it, but I would be like, oh, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:51.880 I've just eaten eaten a dog. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:52.080 Now. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.680 I wouldn't finish it, though, but I you know, I 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:55.959 get you didn't want to be you didn't want to 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:56.400 be rude. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.240 Yeah, I mean, I'm the kind of firs and I 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.360 just like to be able to say I've tried things, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.040 so like even if it's something that i've probably well 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.680 you know, I mean to a good a good reason. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.679 But like for the most part, I try to try 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.319 something at least once. So now that I've had that, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.040 and now that I know what it is, I don't 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.560 think I'll ever actually go out of my way to 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:20.720 have it, even if it's. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:26.280 Presented as dog thank you for calling, Jason, Thanks, Kex, 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:36.599 have a good one. Do I don't know if I 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.600 have any post call thoughts about that. I think I 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:47.720 think that that call can simply stand as it is, Hello, Hi, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.720 what's up? Uh? 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.920 Not much? Well, sort of a lot. Well, I'm glad 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.120 I finally got through. I've been over every stream I've 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.640 tried to call, so well, I don't know should I 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.480 just start talking about what I want. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:01.920 To talk about? 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.160 Or sure? Why not? 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:12.600 Okay, So about two years ago I got into this 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:18.520 relationship with this guy and he's fantastic, but he's quite 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.480 a bit older than me, and that presents that presents 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:28.400 quite a few problems for us. I don't really know 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:29.920 what I'm supposed to do about it. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.800 What are these problems? 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.960 I guess I guess one of the biggest parts is 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.840 I want to be I want to be more part 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.040 of his his life, you know, I want to meet 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.520 his friends, his you know, his family and stuff. But 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.560 it's it's it's hard for him because I'm so much 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:56.560 younger than him, Like it's not like ten years he's like, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:02.800 he's he's sixty three and I'm so it's it's a 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:07.360 pretty big gap in age. So I I get why 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.600 it's hard. It's just it doesn't feel it feels weird 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:17.040 whenever I whenever it comes up with his family or 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.200 you know, stuff like that. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:19.640 So I don't know. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:21.840 How'd you meet this guy? 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.360 We met online like a dating app. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.160 Okay, was it like? Was it was the date? It 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.960 was this like the point of the dating app. It 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.400 was like to meet like older guys. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:43.720 Like no, it's just sort of oh sorry, no, it's 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.040 it's sort of just like people just all for all 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.480 people meeting all people. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:54.640 How long have you been with this guy? 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:01.480 Since January of twenty twenty four. Actually, one of the 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.520 first dates that we went on, you know, out together, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.280 was to your show back in March You're in Colorado. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.440 Yeah, Oh no shit, wait did we meet? 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:13.000 No? 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.040 No, we didn't meet. He wanted me to go up, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.160 but I didn't. I didn't have anything interesting to talk about. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.280 I don't know if you remember the show, but it 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.080 was the show where like this guy came up and 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.200 he played he played music. He oh, he was a 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.440 web designer and he used the name like Sam Sariff 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.960 or something Sam Sariff yep, and song was like way 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.480 better than I thought it would be. I thought I 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:38.600 was sort of expecting, like. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did remember that. I did remember that. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.160 Yeah. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:47.440 Well anyway, okay, so okay, I mean, so yeah, that's 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.080 I mean, that's a fairly long time. It's about a 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:55.360 year and a half and like is is and so 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.360 what you met this guy when you were like nineteen. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.600 Yeah, it is like a month before my birthday. So 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:03.800 I was eighteen at the time. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:12.920 Okay, Well, I have thoughts, but I have quite I 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.480 have more. I have more questions than thoughts. Uh so 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:25.120 tell me this, Why do you want to be with 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:25.600 this guy? 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:35.480 Well, he's really nice, he's friendly, he's really funny. We 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:41.680 we have a lot of the same interests. Uh we Yeah, 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.119 we just have a really good time together. For the 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.399 first for like the first ten months, it was a 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.760 little weird. It was sort of like a problem for 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.400 the first ten months that I didn't I didn't really 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.520 talk about because it's it's also my only It's the 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.439 only time I've ever even been in a relationship, so 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.159 that makes it even more weird probably, But but like 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.480 for the first ten months, it was more just like 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.360 we were friends, and I didn't know how to bring 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.720 up to him that I like, I sort of wanted more. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.560 So for like the first ten months, it it wasn't 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.080 well for me, it was sort of like he was 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.280 we were dating, but for him, it wasn't like fully 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.360 we weren't together. It was more just like we were 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.640 friends until I brought it up in like November last year, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.800 and that's when we decided to you know, be together. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.760 And so. But so you want like a full fledged 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.359 relationship where he introduces you to all of his like 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.960 friends and really integrates you into his life. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.200 Yeah, yeah, I mean I've met parts of his family, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.359 But for his friends, he sort of has like two 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.080 sections of friends. He has a of friends that's like 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:05.159 his you know, his friends that are also you know, 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.760 gays and stuff like that, and his friends that are 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:14.320 so before he before he started, like you know, before 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.960 like two thousand, he was he was married to a 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.399 lady and he had like a kid and stuff, but 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.000 he was he was gay the entire time, so it 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.479 was sort of like so then they got divorced, and 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.199 then he started living you know, gay outwards and stuff 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.760 like that. So he's friends from before then friends after them. 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.760 So for his friends before then, I think he thinks 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.600 that they they would find it weird. And for a 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:46.080 few friends from the other part of his life, he 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.000 one of them would not find it very cool. If 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:57.560 his if that was his partner, someone forty years younger 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.679 than him. And then for his family, I've met his 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.399 brother and his brother's wife and they're very friendly. But 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:09.120 for family functions like Thanksgiving and Christmas, he thinks would 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:13.960 be a little weird if his daughter and his dad 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.000 found out, because his dad's like eighty three or something. 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:23.520 So, So, did you give me your name or fake name? Ted? 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:26.440 Well, that's my real name. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:32.960 Oh okay, all right whatever? Yeah, Ted's school. What's going 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.280 on in the in like the rest of your life? 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:37.240 Uh? 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:43.240 Well, I'm really busy at work. Let's see. I play chess, 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.560 I mean a lot of I guess I'm pretty boring 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:56.880 outside of that, Yeah, not much. I guess. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.880 What have you told you? Have you talked to? Are 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:03.120 you close with like your parents? Are you have like siblings. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.120 No, No, well, I don't have any siblings. The only 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:11.439 family I have any us is my dad and uncle, 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.760 and my dad's a truck driver and my uncle he 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.439 lives somewhere here here in Colorado, but I don't I 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.440 don't know where, So I guess I'm not really close 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:26.359 to any family. Do you have friends, Yeah, I've I 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:31.520 have friends, but I don't think I really have anyone 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:32.800 I can talk to about it? 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.240 Really, Like, why do you feel like you can't talk 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:38.159 to your friends about this? 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.840 Well, no one really knows that I'm I'm not you know, 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:43.880 you know that I'm. 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.440 Like that, so that you're that you're gay, That you're gay? 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:54.679 Yeah, no, I've never told anyone that before, So it's 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:59.760 it's also weird for to tell someone that, yeah, m 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.639 and then on top of that, it's like another level 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:07.880 of even more weird because I'm I'm like actively pursuing 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.680 a relationship with someone older than my grandfather. 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.240 So yeah, yeah, So you don't have you don't have 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:22.600 any friend, Like, nobody from your close friends or family 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:23.359 knows that you're gay. 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.640 No, no one knows. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:30.600 Mm hmmm. 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.320 Well, you know, here's the thing I'm trying to because 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:38.280 like I'm trying to get a full picture of your 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:44.320 life to kind of understand, like what is drawing you to, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:50.800 uh want to like pursue this thing? You know what 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.960 I mean? Because and the reason why is it? Because 0:22:55.560 --> 0:23:00.680 you know, I'm not one hundred percent sure if whatever 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.600 the underlying reason is that you're pursuing this thing, that 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:10.840 this thing is the best cure of it, you know 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.840 what I mean? Yeah, you get what I'm saying. 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:16.959 Yeah, I see what you mean. 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:27.280 M have you like Okay, so this is like, like 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.960 have you dated guys before? Have you like gone out 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:36.119 on dates, if you like met connected with other dudes 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.520 that aren't in their sixties? 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:45.200