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Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free Agents, where we marry up

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Speaker 1: the draft and free agency. And it's been quite a week.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. My friend Daniel Jeremiah has been celebrating

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Speaker 1: his anniversary. I'm glad you got that out of the way, DJ,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to hear about eisen or Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: This is the only partnership that matters to you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm committed to this partnership. Not committed enough to

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Speaker 3: make that two hour drive after a vacation, but I

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Speaker 3: am committed to it, at least via this online video

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Speaker 3: communication setup that we have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot has been going down this week, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into some of the big free agency moves.

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Speaker 1: You were all over it last week with like Gino

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Speaker 1: leaving Seattle. But before we kind of go with what

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Speaker 1: we like the most, I thought we'd look at how

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft has been affected by free agency,

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Speaker 1: and we could just go through the first picks, starting

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Speaker 1: with Tennessee, and I wonder if you agree with me

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Speaker 1: or not the way they built up this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And then the quarterback that they sign in free agency

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Speaker 1: is Brandon Allen, Who's who's a backup at best or

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Speaker 1: a number three type of pick. Does that make you

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Speaker 1: think they're looking a little more at cam Ward than

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Speaker 1: maybe people thought a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I think you can logically get to that point when

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Speaker 3: you look at what they've done and they've you know,

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Speaker 3: brought in some veteran offensive lineman. Now in terms of

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Speaker 3: you know, how much better they're going to be and

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Speaker 3: where there's some overpays in there, that's another conversation, you know,

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Speaker 3: Greg with with what they added. But you know, Kevin Zeitler,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that's you know, a three year move.

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Speaker 3: That's something for the next year or two to help,

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Speaker 3: you know, you would think a young quarterback to kind

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Speaker 3: of get assimilated into the league. Man Dan Moore got

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Speaker 3: way more money than I ever anticipated he was going

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Speaker 3: to get coming out of Pittsburgh to be their left tackle.

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Speaker 3: So they fortify, you know, in their in their way

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Speaker 3: of doing it, they fortify the offensive line, and you

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Speaker 3: can make a strong case for that. I would just

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Speaker 3: say that, you know, there's nothing coming up out of Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: but in talking to people around the league, there still

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Speaker 3: is an expectation that Tennessee's playing a little more of

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Speaker 3: the long game here. Don't rule out a quarterback there

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Speaker 3: at one. But also I still think they would be

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Speaker 3: intrigued to at least listen to what offers are out

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Speaker 3: so that would I wouldn't rule that out just yet.

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Speaker 1: So that makes sense to me. But how long of

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Speaker 1: a game can you play? If you're Brian Callahan. They

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Speaker 1: didn't win a lot of games last year. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to go through another year like that. It was

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Speaker 1: really the quarterback signing when they could have There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of good backup, real bridge type quarterbacks available, and

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Speaker 1: they signed Brandon Allen as their guy. I'm like, Okay, well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that was a destination for a

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Speaker 3: lot of folks. I mean, if you look at the

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Speaker 3: via the trade options that were available. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that that Sam Donald was interested in going to Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: is what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you pushed me off that take, but I'm still

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Speaker 1: going to stay there, all right. So the Browns in

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Speaker 1: Freezer haven't really done a lot. They got that Miles

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Speaker 1: picking around the edges they I mean, the worst take

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Speaker 1: I saw all week was that Kenny Pickett somehow says

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Speaker 3: They're out on a quarterback now because they got Kenny

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Speaker 1: Come on. I mean, if Kenny Pickett's competing and he

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Speaker 1: a backup job. And and Kirk Cousins could still shake

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well they also just you know, had Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: So if they're not in love you know, with what's

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Speaker 3: We're gonna kind of push that long term need to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I go back to what you said on on

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Speaker 1: your warm up podcast, Move the Sticks. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that was that was you in the minor leagues and

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Speaker 1: just getting ready for this one. And you you made

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Speaker 1: the point when Miles Garrett asked for that trade that

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Speaker 1: he might have been doing them a favor because then

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Speaker 3: I no blood on their hands. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: a reset moment. There's and this is again, we could

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Speaker 3: go a thousand different directions. This is what I love

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Speaker 3: about this show. And I heard you talking about this

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Speaker 3: the other day because I had a long flight home

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Speaker 3: and I did listen to you and mina kind of

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Speaker 3: kind of maybe not tear it down, but let's make

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Speaker 3: that situation with Miles giving them a get out of

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Speaker 3: they could have had a haul and try and collect

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Speaker 1: Well, it also might be something where what's best for

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Speaker 1: the organization doesn't match up with the needs of who's

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Speaker 1: coming off that kind of year, they want to win now,

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Speaker 1: So maybe thinking about the deep future without Michael Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: that's not helping out your team at all.

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Speaker 3: But man, they don't the most interesting team. Let's move Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, the most exciting thing you did was

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Speaker 1: Mully Collins. By the way, I noticed that was Mina

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Speaker 1: Kimes podcast that you listened to. It was not mine

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily, So that that's sticking in my craw a

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Speaker 1: little bit. The Giants are the most interesting in free agency.

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Speaker 1: They attack the secondary with Paulson Adebo and they you know,

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Speaker 3: Right the wrongs from the safety decision of not too

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Speaker 1: I thought Joe Shane doesn't. He only spends on premium

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Speaker 1: now they're looking at Aaron Rodgers, They're they're looking at

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Speaker 3: Yeah? To me, that makes the most sense. I always

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Speaker 3: who has the most urgency. And of those teams up

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Speaker 3: to go get the top quarterback in the draft? I

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Speaker 3: think without question it's the New York Giants. So I

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Speaker 3: was looking it up Gregan. Historically, to go up to

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Speaker 3: most part, most of those trades require a twenty percent overpay.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to have to do that

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Speaker 3: doing business. This is what a trade would look like.

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Speaker 3: If the Giants were to try and get all the

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Speaker 3: But if you're a Giants and you have a regime

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're just hoping that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: of sense to me. The Patriots don't have to worry

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Speaker 3: He tried, man. I think they tried. I think they

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Speaker 3: tried on Godwin. They threw them literally gobs of money,

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Speaker 3: much more than he ended up getting where he stayed.

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Speaker 3: But I actually like what they did from the standpoint

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Speaker 3: of you've got all this space. You know, you've got

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Speaker 3: we're going to be looking to replace a year from now.

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Speaker 3: What's the point of doing that. You're better off just

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Speaker 3: plugging some holes on the defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 3: why we do this show is because it's marrying free

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Speaker 3: to go heavy, heavy offense in the draft, starting with

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Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback money. They're not really invested past this

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Speaker 1: year if they didn't have to, Very similar to the

435
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr contract that he first signed with the Raiders,

436
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Speaker 1: where he only ended up staying one more year. But

437
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Speaker 1: they spend that money on DeMarcus Lawrence. They spend a

438
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Speaker 1: lot of money on John Reid, who had a good

439
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Speaker 1: year for them last year. They bring back Ernest Jones,

440
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Speaker 1: one of the many off ball linebackers that gets paid.

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Speaker 1: They don't really spend on the offensive line. They bring

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Speaker 1: in mvs. Marcus Valdez scanting on the offensive side. Does

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Speaker 1: that make you think they're they're going more towards the

444
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Speaker 1: draft here? And is this a case where sometimes a

445
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Speaker 1: defensive coach ends up just like worrying about his side

446
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Speaker 1: of the ball a little more than the other side

447
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Speaker 1: of the ball.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, a couple of things, you know,

449
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Speaker 3: and this is dangerous when you're doing this, when news

450
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Speaker 3: could break at any moment. But as we're recording this,

451
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Speaker 3: nothing's happened here. But a couple moves that make sense

452
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Speaker 3: to me. I thought Cooper Cup made a lot of

453
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Speaker 3: sense for them to give them just a reliable, dependable

454
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Speaker 3: pass catcher, always going to be where he's supposed to be,

455
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Speaker 3: going to catch everything. I thought he could compliment, you know,

456
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Speaker 3: you can move him around a little bit. With him

457
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Speaker 3: and JSN, you've got two really smart, heady plays, So

458
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Speaker 3: that one makes sense there. Garrett Bradbury reuniting with Sam Darnold.

459
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Speaker 3: I know Bradbury struggles a little bit with power, but

460
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Speaker 3: in the run game he's really good. Can get up

461
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Speaker 3: and climb the second level, cut guys off, all that stuff.

462
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Speaker 3: So just having the relationship there with Sam, I thought

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Speaker 3: that one would make some sense. But you know, the

464
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Speaker 3: interior of the offensive line is you know, that would

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Speaker 3: be my greatest concern right now, and that's not just

466
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Speaker 3: going to be solved with with a move like that.

467
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to they're gonna have to draft and

468
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to hit. And I think some part

469
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Speaker 3: of what we saw with the DeMarcus Lawrence thing is

470
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Speaker 3: not just to help the defense. Again, Greg, I think

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Speaker 3: it all Mary's together with the draft and they're thinking, man,

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Speaker 3: there's going to be a run on these defensive linemen

473
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Speaker 3: in the first round. There's a ton of them, and

474
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Speaker 3: so they can sit out the you know, they don't

475
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Speaker 3: want to be on the middle to tail end of

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Speaker 3: the d lineman run when they might be able to

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Speaker 3: get near the top of the interior offensive line run

478
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Speaker 3: with where they're picking, so that that made some sense

479
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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: And you saw the vision the Mike McDonald defense late

481
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Speaker 1: in the seas and was outstanding.

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Speaker 3: And if you look, christ Joan's a big part of that. Man,

483
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Speaker 3: I'm glad that that was a great signing. And we

484
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Speaker 3: said it last week. He's one of those players like

485
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Speaker 3: what the heck? Why is he getting bounced around the

486
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Speaker 3: league like this? This guy plays well everywhere he goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love the fit. I have a

488
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Speaker 1: hard time finding a weakness on that defense. So if

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Speaker 1: they had snuck into the playoffs they wound up with

490
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Speaker 1: ten wins last year, I think, you know, they would

491
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Speaker 1: have been a dangerous type of team. And they're hoping

492
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Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak can help fix the offensive line. In terms

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Speaker 1: of the talent, and I did note Schneider also said, hey,

494
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Speaker 1: our coaches they he likes some of the talent that's there.

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Speaker 1: They've drafted guys in the middle rounds Christian Haynes and

496
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Speaker 1: Anthony Bradford, and so it's one another case where I

497
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Speaker 1: think they're betting on John Schneider right or wrong. And

498
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Speaker 1: he's done a great job there overall over the years,

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Speaker 1: they're really trusting him his vision at quarterback, developing some

500
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Speaker 1: of his players, and he's working in concert with Mike McDonald.

501
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Speaker 1: But he's got he's got the juice in that building,

502
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Speaker 1: kind of like DJ's got the juice on this show.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, you know.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on real quick, before you get to

505
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Speaker 3: the break, real quick, real quick. This team's twenty eight

506
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Speaker 3: in the league in rushing yards Seattle. Their backs are

507
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Speaker 3: so much better than that. That tells you again they've

508
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Speaker 3: got to get offensive line. Grey's abel go get him,

509
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Speaker 3: just go do it in the.

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Speaker 1: First four do it? Okay, I like that pick, and

511
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Speaker 1: you know according I've watched some of the mocks, including

512
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Speaker 1: you talking out there. He might not even make it

513
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Speaker 1: all the way to Seattle, but if he does, he

514
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Speaker 1: would be a fantastic pick there. All right, we're going

515
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Speaker 1: to take a quick break. We're going to come back.

516
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some of the teams, some

517
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Speaker 1: of the moves that we like the best in free agency,

518
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Speaker 1: and yes, how that all fits with the draft. Back

519
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Speaker 1: in a minute. Good to have DJ back on California soil,

520
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Speaker 1: even if he didn't want to come up to Inglewood.

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Speaker 1: All right, we talked before the break about the Seahawks

522
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Speaker 1: and what they did in terms of bringing in people.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about one of the guys that they that

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Speaker 1: they sent out. DK Metcalf goes to the Steelers, very

525
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Speaker 1: unstealer like move. Not only that they gave up the

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Speaker 1: draft pick, well you know, a second round pick that

527
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Speaker 1: that's good business for DK Metcalf, but they gave him

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Speaker 1: a four year, one hundred and thirty two million dollar extend.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at him and Pickens on the

530
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Speaker 1: same team, do you think they're at all duplicative.

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Speaker 3: Their redundancy department of redundancy is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of win in similar ways, right, I

533
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Speaker 1: mean they're.

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Speaker 3: Different, don't I don't see how. I don't see George

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Speaker 3: Pickens there. I mean, well, look, we've got a long

536
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Speaker 3: time before we get to the to the start of

537
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Speaker 3: the season, and maybe they decide to let these guys

538
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Speaker 3: partner up and pair up. But to me, it does

539
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Speaker 3: feel like there's they're very similar. They're going to ask

540
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Speaker 3: to do similar things. To me, it makes sense. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's maybe it's your Patriots, Greg,

542
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Speaker 3: but you know, I would think there would be somebody

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Speaker 3: that would be willing to cough up a third round

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Speaker 3: pick for for George Pickens. But I just to me,

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Speaker 3: I feel like DK Metcalf was brought in with the

546
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Speaker 3: hope that he could kind of do what you know,

547
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Speaker 3: Aj Brown did when he went from the Titans to

548
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Speaker 3: the Eagles, which was, you know, immediately infuse some much

549
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Speaker 3: needed playmaking into that offense. And he's still in his prime,

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Speaker 3: he's still young. For as long as he's been in

551
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Speaker 3: the league. He came in the league really young. So

552
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Speaker 3: I understand that how he fits individually in there, I

553
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Speaker 3: don't understand how he and George worked together. I just

554
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Speaker 3: don't see that as as a great pairing and a

555
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Speaker 3: great fact knows, maybe I'll be maybe I'll be proved

556
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Speaker 3: wrong when it's all said and done, But that to

557
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Speaker 3: me felt more like a replacement than a compliment.

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Speaker 1: Right because he's still got two years left George Pickens

559
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Speaker 1: on his rookie deal, but they haven't had to declare

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Speaker 1: whether they give him the fifty year option. So maybe

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Speaker 1: that is something I hadn't really thought about it that

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Speaker 1: happens during the draft before the draft, that could be

563
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Speaker 1: a situation to watch and then isn't it a little

564
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Speaker 1: weird team building wise that you're investing all this and

565
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Speaker 1: you're wide receiver and you don't have a quarterback. At

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Speaker 1: some point, aren't they going to take a little bit

567
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Speaker 1: of heat for not having any post bend plan that

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Speaker 1: that works.

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Speaker 3: I know, I mean, I think this is the challenge.

570
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Speaker 3: I think that they took their swing. I think they

571
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Speaker 3: took their swing on Sam Donoald. They tried to get

572
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Speaker 3: it to make it work, and he chose to go

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Speaker 3: to Seattle, so you know, you can't. It's like what

574
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Speaker 3: we were saying with the Patriots and some of the

575
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, issues and holes that remain for them on offense.

576
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Speaker 3: You don't get everybody you want. You don't snap your

577
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Speaker 3: fingers and they all decide they want to come play

578
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: for you. But they have a major, major, major quarterback

579
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Speaker 3: issue right now, you know. And maybe there's a short

580
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: term band aid, a forty one year old band aid.

581
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Speaker 3: They can put on it for a year or two,

582
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Speaker 3: but eventually they're going to have to hit on one,

583
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Speaker 3: and they're going to have to hit on one in the draft.

584
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Speaker 3: And this year there's some intriguing guys those Day two quarterbacks.

585
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Speaker 3: They could be a team I wouldn't I wouldn't put

586
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Speaker 3: it past them. Maybe they are a team that slides

587
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Speaker 3: down a little bit, trades down, get some extra picks

588
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Speaker 3: to fill some other holes, and then maybe they take

589
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Speaker 3: a swing on that second group of quarterbacks a little

590
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Speaker 3: earlier than people think. But they have to they have

591
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Speaker 3: to keep swinging. Man, they tried with Kenny Pickett. Didn't work.

592
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Speaker 3: You know, They've they've got to keep swinging and and

593
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Speaker 3: find that because you're in a division when you've got

594
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Speaker 3: Burrow and Lamar like, it's hard. You're literally bringing knife

595
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Speaker 3: to a gunfight. You know, you've got to find a

596
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Speaker 3: way to hit on a court.

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Speaker 1: Well, they keep trying to swing in the wrong years

598
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Speaker 1: for it. Pickett was a little bit of a reach

599
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: that year, certainly in hindsight, but even at the time

600
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a great quarterback class. And now they're in

601
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Speaker 1: another quarterback class that maybe second round it makes sense,

602
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Speaker 1: but you don't get credit for a swinging.

603
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Speaker 3: This lets me getting some comps though, right they're gonna

604
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Speaker 3: get some comps with I think Fields getting the contract

605
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Speaker 3: that he got, they'll get it. I would have guess,

606
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Speaker 3: probably get a third round pick on that, so they'll

607
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Speaker 3: have some they'll have some extra picks going dan morph. Shoot,

608
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Speaker 3: he got fifty million guaranteed over two years. I'm sure

609
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Speaker 3: that's a third or fourth round pick next year, So

610
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Speaker 3: they'll have some extra ammunition next year if they want

611
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Speaker 3: to be really really.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is it's like baseball. You don't get

613
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Speaker 1: credit for swinging and missing. Yeah, they tried for Sam Darnold.

614
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Speaker 1: But if they had a better infrastructure and if they

615
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Speaker 1: had actually gotten a deal done, then we would have

616
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Speaker 1: given them some credit. Let's give credit to the Rams

617
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: at least I will. I know you don't like it

618
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: when you're your crossdown rival, you know you're with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: That's bitter. Gets a bitter, right, Yeah, gets a great

620
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: deal done Because to me, this DeVante Adams contract could

621
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: have as much of an impact and who is winning

622
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: playoff games as any of these free agent deals, and

623
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Speaker 1: they ultimately chose him over Cooper Cup, not at that

624
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: much more money than Cooper Cup was on the books

625
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: for What did you think about this move?

626
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting. I mean because there are some

627
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: similarities as players. I think Davante's got a little bit

628
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: more quickness at this point as they're both are getting

629
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: a little bit older. But you know, I think it's

630
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: someone that's going to be able to win outside, that's

631
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: going to be able to win in the red zone.

632
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, him paired up with Matthew

633
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: Stafford is a you know, I don't see how he's

634
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: not ultra productive. Look at the numbers that he put

635
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: up last year. I think he's going to be an

636
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: easy ninety catches uh in this offense with him and

637
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Speaker 3: Pooka Nakua. Yeah, I think it's a I think it's

638
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: a great fit. I don't know that you would have

639
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: got your value out of out of DeVante Adams if

640
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: he goes somewhere with mediocre quarterback play, I'd be like, Ah,

641
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: that didn't really make a lot of sense. But when

642
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: you're trying to push and you've got all this young

643
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: talent on defense and you just want a little bit

644
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: more on offense, Yeah, I like that.

645
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Speaker 1: And it's a team that at this point probably just

646
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Speaker 1: assumes they're going to nail every draft pick that they

647
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: do have. They did send it an extra second away

648
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Speaker 1: last year, so they're missing one pick, but they have

649
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: just hit pick after pick the last couple of years

650
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: less need on a hot streak. We mentioned the Viking.

651
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: I like Poona Ford too. Man. Yeah, poon of Ford

652
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: was a good signing. I obviously saw all his games

653
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: last year. He played great for the Tick.

654
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's exactly what they need because they have

655
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: those great edge rushers but need a little beef inside.

656
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: The Rams will be one of the NFC favorites next year?

657
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Will the Vikings be? If JJ McCarthy is their Week

658
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: one starting quarterback, I would argue yes, because I think

659
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster is outstanding and the weaknesses

660
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned the interior offensive line for Arnold. They bring

661
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: in the Colts interior offensive line and Ryan Kelly and

662
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Will Fries and there's some risk there. Kelly's a little

663
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: bit older, but good players. And then on the defensive side,

664
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Speaker 1: you spend a lot of money in terms of Hard

665
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: Grave and Jonathan Allen. This this team like three hundred

666
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: million dollars in contract. Do you like this as as

667
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: a build around a young quarterback like JJ?

668
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I think you know people will look at

669
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: it and go Okay. The reason they want aggressive in

670
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: free agency is because they you know, you know, not

671
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: having to pay the quarterback now with JJ the other

672
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: reason they want aggressive in free agency. Don't have any

673
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: draft picks, so they needed to go out and solve

674
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: their issues and solve their problems during free agency. So

675
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: I thought that made a lot of sense how aggressive

676
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: they were along the line of scrimmage. And you know,

677
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: we'll see, maybe they can slide down, trade out, trade

678
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: down in the first round, try and recoup some of

679
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: the picks that they've lost over the last few years.

680
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: But that, to me is another reason why that team

681
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: was ultra aggressive and doing what they did.

682
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: And we'll see if what happens with Aaron Rodgers. But

683
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I am convinced that he's he's just hoping he can

684
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: get them interested, and that's why he's stretching this thing

685
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: out because he knows that would be the best situation

686
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: for him. Just just go down to Minnesota, Like what

687
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: is there? Is there a team you would want Rogers

688
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: to go to?

689
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Speaker 3: By the way, well, I mean, I gosh, I just

690
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: can't the Minnesota thing. I can see it. I could

691
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: see him trying to talk Kevin O'Connell into it, being like, look, JJ,

692
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: maybe he gets there, but I'm there right now. I

693
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: can see Aaron's sales pitch to him. I just don't

694
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Speaker 3: see how this benefits JJ in any way, shape or form. Like,

695
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it makes any sense from that standpoint. So,

696
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: you know, I would be surprised if that's what ultimately

697
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: ended up happening for me. You know, who's desperate for him?

698
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: That the two teams, the Giants and the Steelers. Man

699
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Speaker 3: if I was Aaron Rodgers, I think the Giants have

700
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Speaker 3: a little more firepower with neighbors, you know, that would

701
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: be kind of fun. But you know, hey, Pittsburgh, it's

702
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: a you know, that's a team that's that's done a

703
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: lot of winning over the years and still has some

704
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: some start.

705
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fight. That's fighting.

706
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: Where that you say the DK and George who I've said, Yeah,

707
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: DK and George, just you know, pair it up together,

708
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: perfect match.

709
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Speaker 1: I would like Rogers and Pittsburgh just for the content,

710
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: And that's I'm just selfish. I just feel like it'd

711
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: be good podcast fodder to Tomlin Rogers with that organization,

712
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: give it to me. I have been skeptical about much

713
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: of the Ryan Poles era, and that skepticism has been

714
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: born out because every off season Bears fans who are

715
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 1: just the most optimistic and zealous like fans. I love them.

716
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: They always think the Bears are going to be awesome

717
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: year after year. This is the first year where I'm

718
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of in on it. They spent big in free agency.

719
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: They signed Drew Dolman as the center. We talked about

720
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: the trades that they've made at the guard position. Let's

721
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: listen to Ryan Poles, their general manager, and how he

722
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Speaker 1: looks at the free agency spending.

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this really opens the whole board for us.

724
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be able to sit back and kind

725
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: of look and say, what's the best thing to do

726
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears and who's the best player that

727
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: can impact. So we got some some tough decisions and

728
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of film to watch between now and the draft.

729
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that was GM speak. That makes a

730
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. When I look at their

731
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: depth chart now, I don't see huge screaming needs. I

732
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: feel like they can attack like whoever they want. Where

733
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: would you go?

734
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Speaker 3: DJ, Yeah, I've mentioned a couple options there. I think

735
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: Ashton gent comes into play a big time. When you've

736
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: kind of fixed a lot of the offensive line, you

737
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: could make a case they could still go out and

738
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: get an upgrade at left tackle. But Ashton Genty to

739
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: you know, play behind this front that can create, should

740
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: be able to create some push. I would be fun.

741
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: That would be a lot of fun to watch him

742
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: with Kayleb Williams and Romadoonze that kind of little triplets

743
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: grow up together. So I love that option I've mentioned,

744
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: which is a little bit out of the box when

745
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: you already have a tight end in Cole Comet. But

746
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren to me, just live in twelve

747
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: personnel and you've got a creative play caller. You could

748
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: have a lot of fun with him now that you've

749
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: addressed that interior the offensive line, and that just goes

750
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: to you know, what they were saying there is that

751
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: they're they're freed up. So literally, just take the best

752
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: available player, somebody that's going to come in and make

753
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: an impact for your team. So yeah, I'm excited about

754
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 3: the Bears. I'm excited to watch that team next year,

755
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: maybe more so than any other, to see, you know,

756
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: what type of step Caleb makes and really to see

757
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: what kind of offense Ben Johnson's gonna run, because it's

758
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: not going to be the same thing you had in Detroit.

759
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: I feel differently about Ben Johnson just from watching him

760
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: handle the public duties of being a coach in some

761
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: of those videos in the building. He just he's convinced me,

762
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: like he just seems like a dude, and now I

763
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: think he's the key guy in the organization. But Ryan

764
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Pulse has done a good job I think building up

765
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: their players this offseason, and Drew Dolman was a good example.

766
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Do you think, like just looking at the offensive lineman

767
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: and free agency and thinking about you just mentioned the

768
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: Dan Moore contract, Aaron Banks was a guy who got

769
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: just an exceptional amount of money and there was only

770
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: a couple guys out there. It's just a reminder these

771
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: offensive linemen now that you have to draft them early,

772
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: even more than I think anytime that I've seen at

773
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: the NFL level, it really feels like it's quarterback and

774
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: then offensive line, and that includes the interior offensive line.

775
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: If Drew Dolman and Aaron Banks are making defensive tackle,

776
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: defensive end type of money, like to me, there is

777
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: an even bigger premium to get those guys in the draft,

778
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: and maybe those guys get pushed up a little bit.

779
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's a developmental position too. You know,

780
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: with the offensive line, what you get year one can

781
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: be drasticly different, different once you get to three, four five,

782
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 3: they just accumulate all that knowledge and it's a different

783
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: game from college to the NFL. So, man, that's why

784
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: when you get these guys out to the market, they're

785
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: usually plug and play and you don't have to You

786
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: can kind of set it and forget it right, just

787
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: set the lineup through them in there and go fix

788
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: something else some of the problem that you might have.

789
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: So that's why you're seeing these guys get paid. The

790
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: other thing is these teams all have so much money. Man,

791
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: there's the TV money in the salary cap exploding the

792
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: two things. It led to a lot of guys, a

793
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: lot of really good players getting you know, extensions where

794
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: they are early. And what it did is now you've

795
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: got a market that maybe's not loaded with talent, but

796
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: teams are flush with cash. So it's good to be

797
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: a you know, a mid level to a little bit

798
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: above a mid level player because the team's like, well

799
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: we've got it, we might as well spend it.

800
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: Half the league has more than thirty million dollars in

801
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: cap space and ten or eleven teams have forty million.

802
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: The Patriots, after all this spending, still have about one

803
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in There's too much gap space. I

804
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: actually think teams long term planning have gotten caught a

805
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: little flat footed that they have too much some of

806
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: these teams and teams like the Eagles and the Ravens

807
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: who are spending on good players and spending to the cap,

808
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: that's really the way to do it.

809
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: Can I can? I? Can I hijack this right because

810
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: you just mentioned the Eagles, Because I was talking to

811
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: somebody in the league of a coach about this the

812
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: other day. I said, you know, the Eagles are fascinating

813
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: because it almost feels like they're taking an NBA approach,

814
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: which is they're paying their stars right, and you look

815
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: at the exodus of players. They have some good players,

816
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 3: Milton Williams, Josh Sweat, like good players that walked out.

817
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Of the Gardner Johnson they traded.

818
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but what they've done is they've said, Okay,

819
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: we've got our piles of money, we're gonna put it

820
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: into the stars and then the rest we're going to

821
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 3: really we have a really good scouting staff. We're going

822
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: to scout our butts off with all these guys leaving,

823
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: we're playing the comp pit games. So they're gonna have

824
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: a million picks this year and next year based off

825
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: what's happened, you know, over the last couple of years.

826
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: So they're gonna then try and surround those stars with

827
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: a bunch of cheap, young, talented players, and they hit

828
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: in the draft. It's like, I think the Rams are

829
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: the other team that's they won the Super Bowl with

830
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: that NBA approach and now you know, you've seen them

831
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: hit on all these young players. The Eagles have hit

832
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: on young players. It's an interesting formula out there to

833
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: try and do.

834
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: That and also filling the gaps with some really low

835
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: cost free agents. You know, they bring in aj Dillon

836
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: as a backup running It's just these are the shots,

837
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: but there's almost no risks you bring in outa they

838
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: brought in who is the cornerback from from the Giants

839
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: that they brought in for for very Yeah, uh, Dori Jackson,

840
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: who I've always thought is an underrated player, but now

841
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: he's at the point where he's a distressed asset and

842
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: you could see him stepping in kind of like they

843
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: did with Isaiah Rodgers, who got a nice deal elsewhere

844
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: in free agency, and they just plug them into their system.

845
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: And I'm convinced.

846
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: I was talking. I was talking to a coach about,

847
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: you know, certain teams and organizations, the Eagles being one

848
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: of them. And this was the great point that he

849
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: brought up, is if you're going to go on in

850
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: one of these one year, you know, prove it deals.

851
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: He was like, do you want to go to a

852
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: one o'clock Sunday team? He's like, and he was, and

853
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to throw, Like I won't throw the

854
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: team he mentioned under the bus, but it's like he

855
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: mentioned one of those NFC South teams and he was like,

856
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: you want to go there play at one o'clock every

857
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: every Sunday, or you can go to a team like

858
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: the Eagles play, you know, be on the national stage.

859
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: You're in the you're in the four o'clock window. If

860
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: you're not in the four o'clock window, you're playing Sunday night,

861
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: Monday night, big stages, big games, everybody's watching, everybody's paying attention.

862
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: You're seven sad you get with the Philadelphia Eagles, you're

863
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: gonna end up being more valuable than the seven sacks

864
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: you might get in the NFC South is what he

865
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: was mentioning. And I don't know if any if a

866
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: lot of people think like that, but I'm telling you

867
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: that message is being sent to players and to try

868
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: and entice them on these you know, short term deals.

869
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: They should be. I mean, if you're an offensive lineman,

870
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: you can go to Jeff Stoutland University and suddenly you're

871
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: gonna get a bigger contract than free agency who didn't

872
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: get a bigger contract? I mentioned Aj Dillon at running back,

873
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Like the running back position people thought might get two

874
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: SD up because of safe aud.

875
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Loaded in the class of free agents. Is not that right?

876
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, your Chargers sign Naj Harris for a nice deal

877
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: five million dollars. They did not have to spend much

878
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: for a guy who who can have a big workload

879
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: for really, the only running back who got paid was

880
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones thirteen million dollars guaranteed. He's had a great career.

881
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: But none of these guys got more than one year

882
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: of guaranteed money. Some of them are two years deal,

883
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: but they're just they're just one year flyers. So the

884
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: running back come up didn't really happen, but safety and

885
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: off linebacker did. I'm just gonna list a few of

886
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: these guys. These safeties got paid. Javon Holland, Dravon Morigg,

887
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: cam binam Talamea, whufunga, they all got paid. Justin Reid

888
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: did okay. And then the off ball linebacker Zach Bond

889
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: was kind of the guy that the Eagles decided we're

890
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: not going to let him go, and then the rest

891
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: of the market fell in line. Really good deals for

892
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton and Drake Greenlow and Jamie and Sherwood. So

893
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of a comeback for the off ball

894
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: linebackers in the safety So I have two positions I

895
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: feel like I have been a little ignored lately.

896
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: Now well, two positions in the draft that aren't super

897
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: deep and talented either. So I think that is a

898
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: little bit of the impact there. And I also, you know,

899
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: as we discussed in the last one, you know you

900
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: have a pressing need, a glaring need off the ball linebacker.

901
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: You can take one early, but odds are you're not

902
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: going to be happy with what you get your one,

903
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: maybe not even happy with with what you get your two.

904
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: That takes time to get good play out of that position.

905
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: It's a lot to learn, it's a lot to take in.

906
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: So if you need somebody to come in and plug

907
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: and play, man, go to the veteran route. Twenty more

908
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: to come here on forties and free agents. Will be

909
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: right back after this. We are back on forties and

910
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: free agencies.

911
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap the show. And I truly have

912
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: no clue how long we've gone. Him just having such

913
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: a good time talking to my new best friend DJ,

914
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: the one partnership that matters in his life. Now, let's

915
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about who's still out there. Of my top

916
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: one oh one free agents, I should have I should

917
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: have listened to you. I don't know if you told

918
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: me to rank Asante Samuel Junior lower, but he was

919
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: the one cornerback I had ranked high that hasn't gotten

920
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: his money yet. Amari Cooper is up there. Aaron Rodgers

921
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback option. Cam Robinson is a plug

922
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: and play type of tackle, even if he's not, you know,

923
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: way above average. Stefan Diggs some other names, Aziz Ojalari

924
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: Khalayis Campbell, Tevin Jenkins is visiting the Seahawks so they

925
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: might sign him to help them out at the interior

926
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: offensive line. Is there anyone out there for free agency

927
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: that stands out to you?

928
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: Well? I mean I think looking at this list, you know,

929
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: and I won't name the guys, but like the medical

930
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: is a big part of that too, for for why

931
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: some of these guys are still sitting out there and

932
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: the concerns that exist there. So that's that's the hard

933
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: thing when you're putting one of those lists together, Greg,

934
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: and I see it on the draft side of things

935
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: with a few guys as well, is that there's you know,

936
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: there's gonna be metal medical information that we're not privy

937
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: to that can impact that. Look to me, I think

938
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: you're talking about a lot of of cheap deals, incentives

939
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: or that's the buzzword at this point in free agency,

940
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: short term incentive heavy deals. But I don't see anything

941
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: on that list that gets me super super fired up.

942
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Dang, that's rude. Bro Cooper Cup not on that list

943
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: a little bit below just because I feel like he's

944
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: a he's a helpful player right now.

945
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: What do you what do you think? What do you

946
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: think he's going to get? Greg?

947
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Ten million dollars a year? Maybe twelve like two.

948
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: He's gonna get more than that. He's going to get

949
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: more than that.

950
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: He wants. More than that is the reporting out there.

951
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it's fifteen million a year that he wants, so

952
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: maybe it's some fake I.

953
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: Think he'll get fifteen. I think he'll get fifteen.

954
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Okay, if that happens, I bet it's mostly guaranteed just

955
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: for one year, and the guarantees are closer to twelve

956
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars in that first year. But we'll see you.

957
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: You've shown you are an insider. I'm going to throw

958
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: out some teams. I think you have a little work

959
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: to do some teams. You know, we mentioned the Patriots

960
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: haven't done a lot on offense, so maybe they have

961
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: work to do. In the draft, didn't you expect the

962
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Bengals to rebuild that defense a little bit? And all

963
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: they've done is bring back some of their rotational guys

964
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: like a Joseph Assai and a bj Hill. Not a

965
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: lot coming out of Cincinnati other than they're not trading

966
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson.

967
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 3: Do you do allowances with your kids, Greg.

968
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: I know I really don't. I should I should, So it's.

969
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: This generation we don't do with ours either, but we

970
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: have I had an allowance growing up. Did you have

971
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: an allowance?

972
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Yes? And I laugh about it because I've said many times, Okay,

973
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna start an alliance, you're gonna start doing chores,

974
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna do this or that, and then it never

975
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: ends up happening. That's why I'm laughing.

976
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: So here's the analogy. So you were kids and mom,

977
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: I want a new bike, you know because our generation

978
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: we actually rode bikes, and she, okay, we got to

979
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: save up for it. Then okay. Then we would go,

980
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: you know, go to the toy store and be like, oh,

981
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 3: I think I want to buy that video games. You

982
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: can buy the video game, but I thought you were

983
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: saving up for the bike. You get, you get the

984
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: video game, you don't get the bike. The bike in

985
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: this case are those two wide receivers and potentially Trey Hendrickson,

986
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: And so there's not they're not buying a lot of

987
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: video games in free agency when you're saving up for

988
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: the bike.

989
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: And I get that, but this was a team whose

990
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: defense completely collapsed. They had a good defensive coordinator in

991
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: lou An Arumo. So you can't tell me that you're

992
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna get better just by getting rid of a defensive

993
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: court and maybe they needed new blood there. That's fine,

994
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: that decision was made. But if their big plan to

995
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: get better is just bring back the guys that we

996
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: had but at way more money, that doesn't seem like

997
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: a recipe.

998
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: The big plan big their big plan, their big plan.

999
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: As we hired Al Golden, who should know the college

1000
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: game early, really well, haven't just come out of there

1001
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator. We've already talked about two teams.

1002
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: We've already spent half this podcast praising the Rams and

1003
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: the Eagles for how well they've drafted on the defensive

1004
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: side of the ball and how they flip that roster

1005
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: over a couple of years of good drafting. That's that's

1006
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: the blueprint. The Bengals are going to pay their offensive stars,

1007
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: and they're going to rely on the draft, and they're

1008
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 3: coaching to identify and develop cheap young draft draft picks

1009
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the way.

1010
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: I thought the Cardinals would be a little more aggressive

1011
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: and freegency, and I think they're one of those teams

1012
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: you kind of mentioned with the Patriots and the Steelers

1013
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: that maybe just lost some of the bidding They did

1014
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: spend some money on Josh Sweat. They brought in Dalvin Thomlinson,

1015
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: but I thought they'd add a little more juice. Jaguars

1016
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: is the same. But I heard their GM speaking that

1017
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: they are really planning on these draft picks coming in

1018
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: and playing right away. And then, you know, I look

1019
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: at it team like who out there is there anyone

1020
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: that that you that stands out to you that just

1021
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily done enough? Because I look at a team

1022
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: like the Texans and they've been aggressive in taking that

1023
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: offensive line apart. Interesting, there's a lot of risk there

1024
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: in what they're doing around C. J. Stroud and then

1025
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: building up their defense instead.

1026
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't I don't know how

1027
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: the offensive line comes together there. I mean they have

1028
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: a lot of holes in the boat there. Titus Howard,

1029
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: I believe they said you'll play left right, so he'll

1030
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: Conck go over and play left tackle. You know, I could,

1031
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: I could get excited about him. I think he's got

1032
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: a chance to be a solid left tackle. He's very talented.

1033
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't always come together for him, but there is

1034
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: talent there. But man, they got it. They got a

1035
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: lot of work to do. On the rest of that front,

1036
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: And man, that's a I don't know, if you look

1037
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: at the draft, you never want to have a you know,

1038
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: you never want to have that pressure in and be

1039
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: locked in and loaded on one specific need that you

1040
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: must fix. But man, they have got to go heavy

1041
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: on the offensive line and they've got a hit that

1042
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: that was interesting to tunsl To me, they must have

1043
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: just been really tired and wanted to change kind of

1044
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: the culture of that offensive line. Alo was the penalties.

1045
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: There was something maybe it was work ethic related. I

1046
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: don't want to speculate, but that was bizarre for where

1047
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: they are as a team to make that move, unless

1048
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: they just felt it was addition by subtraction, because that

1049
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: one they got a lot, they got a lot of

1050
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: work to do.

1051
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: And they did get a couple of picks, and they

1052
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: could be thinking, like Seattle that Nick Cayley comes in

1053
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator and the scheme improves the offensive line.

1054
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: But that was a bold, bold move by Nick Asario

1055
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: and Demko Ryans. By the way, we talked about cup.

1056
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: If you're watching on NFL network, who knows, by the

1057
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: time you see this, maybe they're looking at my top one.

1058
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh one the GM's out there. He could be a Saint,

1059
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: he could be on one of the teams. All these

1060
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: players are just up for grabs, and it slowed down

1061
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: the free agency frenzy, but it's still happened. In DJ.

1062
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: We got a while before the draft. I'm looking forward

1063
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: to this journey with you. It's gonna be Thursday's moving forward.

1064
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: But you know, we had to move it around because

1065
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: you're the big star of the show.

1066
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna be out of a Big twelve combine

1067
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: next week, but I'll still be doing the show. Okay,

1068
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: I'm working.

1069
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1070
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: I want to be in Dallas, but this is gonna

1071
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 3: keep okay.

1072
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: So DJ will have great new information from the Big

1073
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: twelve Pro Days combine. I love that they are doing that.

1074
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: That is it for forties and free agents. We still

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Speaker 1: got what six seven weeks before the draft. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun being on this journey and seeing how it

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Speaker 1: all lines up together.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you heay, keep up the average work, Greg.

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Speaker 3: Proud of you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks DJ.