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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve a blimp. We're not even in

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Speaker 1: the straded here of normalcy, all right. Kicking it off

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday here on one Bills Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. Day off for the players today,

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Speaker 1: no training camp practice. They'll be back on the practice

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Speaker 1: field tomorrow at ten. We'll have full coverage for you

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live. And we have a lot

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, one David Baker, joining us

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Speaker 1: in about an hour and half from there. Steve's a

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Speaker 1: little excited. Yes, Cowboys and Steelers is the Hall of

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Speaker 1: then on Sunday, the class of twenty twenty one goes

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Speaker 1: So that's how the whole thing is playing out. But

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Speaker 1: an eagerly anticipated update on that, Steve before we get

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Speaker 1: to news and notes. I gotta get something off my

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Speaker 1: We uh. I don't want to talk about my feelings

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Speaker 1: or anything. No, it's nothing like that. Okay, But we

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Speaker 1: come down. I got you, Okay, but there are some

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Speaker 1: could say ad infinitum, like forever included in Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: no extra cost you're talking about. I recently had to

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Speaker 1: six weeks, I still got to put air in this thing.

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Speaker 1: So what I have noticed over the past year, Steve,

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Speaker 1: because most people don't have air compressors at their house

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Speaker 1: The biggest probably wasn't the fifty cents, it was having quarters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so thanks, you know, thanks for helping me out. Fifty cents.

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Speaker 1: you can use a card, okay, but two dollars for airman,

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Speaker 1: Brownie that just change your life right there. Well, now

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Speaker 1: What can I say, Jay Harris, just our producer, just

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for sending I'm getting I'm getting product. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's solved. Passing along where I can pick up

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Speaker 1: with him that can help him see things that he

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Speaker 1: just doesn't see yet. And these two guys we got

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Speaker 1: behind him, they don't see it. Either. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much of that is at work here with this signing.

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Speaker 1: Oh now a week into training they need and plus

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Speaker 1: a guy like Josh john He's played in every league

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Speaker 1: out there, yeah, XFL, AAFL, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he's been in the CFL. Maybe he has,

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Speaker 1: but he's in around. It's hard to find a guy

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Speaker 1: with you, and that's kind of it. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to I don't want to be is what I think.

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Speaker 1: You want to bring somebody in with a ton of

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Speaker 1: experience that has no shot at beating Zach Wilson out.

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Speaker 1: You don't even want to look good. You don't even

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Speaker 1: want that to be part of the conversation. You want

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Speaker 1: to sound credible. You want it to be a credible

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Speaker 1: pro player who has had some experience. And Josh Johnson's

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Speaker 1: perfect for this. And you can't tell me Josh Johnson's

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Speaker 1: gonna at any point play better or look better than

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson does. That's part of the deal. But you

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Speaker 1: gotta have a veteran so you can say, well, now

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Speaker 1: this guy's perfect mentor for him, he is going to

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Speaker 1: be great. So why did they not do that earlier?

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Speaker 1: Is my question? When you had options out there. I

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Speaker 1: mean we meant. I remember we talked for a whole

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Speaker 1: segment on this show about a month ago about Matt Barkley, Right,

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Speaker 1: who's still available. Matt Barkley would probably look better than

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, I think so. I think Matt Barkley is

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Speaker 1: too good. Okay, wow, talk about not getting an NFL

452
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Speaker 1: job because you're too good, Well, that doesn't happen. Often.

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Speaker 1: I think about why we're wary of the New York

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Speaker 1: media and how they might spin a narrative like, oh,

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Speaker 1: could we have a competition here? Like might that happen Matt.

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Speaker 1: Matt Barkley thumped the Jets coming off the street two

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Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, I mean he was in the building

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Speaker 1: like six days and beat them, beat him like a drum.

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Speaker 1: Came in last year and hung twenty something points in

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Speaker 1: the second half against the dolphins number one scoring defense.

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Speaker 1: He's been a part of the room that put brought

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen from being a punchline to an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 1: I think that somebody you'd want in the room night,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I completely agree because Barkley

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Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that when he left here

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Speaker 1: I think the only reason he's not here is because

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Speaker 1: his skill set isn't like Josh's, and and Tribisky's a

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Speaker 1: physical upgrade with more starts and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Barkley was beloved by the locker room, the

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Speaker 1: coach staff loved him, but you know, they have they

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Speaker 1: got a job to get better, and Trubisky is an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: So Barkley sitting out there as a guy who really

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Speaker 1: helped this organization get a young quarterback up and running.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are crazy for not having that guy in

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Speaker 1: the room. They could. That is the most That's the

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Speaker 1: easiest justification you'll ever find. He thumped you as a

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Speaker 1: street free agent. Yeah, I don't. I just want it's

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Speaker 1: I always feel like in many instances the Jets are

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Speaker 1: reactive to a situation instead of being proactive. And nothing

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Speaker 1: against Josh Johnson. You know, the guy's carved out an

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Speaker 1: amazing career for himself. Yeah. Really, in some ways it

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Speaker 1: has been amazing. I mean seventeen years, I think it

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Speaker 1: is for him in the league now, I think he's

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Speaker 1: got three starts in the last eight years, but he keeps,

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Speaker 1: he keeps coming back. You can't you can't get rid

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Speaker 1: of him. Um, I just don't understand why with all

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Speaker 1: that you invest in a rookie quarterback pick two in

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Speaker 1: the draft. You know you got to put everything around

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Speaker 1: him from a coaching staff, two veterans at his position

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Speaker 1: to kind of help mentor him a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: they didn't do that, and now they're doing it and

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Speaker 1: might it all come out in the wash. Okay, sure,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta think that is your franchise quarterback, no

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Speaker 1: if sans your butts. He's the guy. Do everything in

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Speaker 1: your power to put him in a position to succeed.

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Speaker 1: With every aspect of the football operation that comes close

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Speaker 1: to touching him. I think you got to give the

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Speaker 1: guy every chance and maybe listen, if they are afraid

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Speaker 1: that a guy like Matt Barkley's going to come in

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Speaker 1: and outshine and he's not, then Zach Wilson isn't the

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Speaker 1: guy that's good, that's good for every other team because

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Speaker 1: they're like, that guy's not. That guy's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: that good. Matt Barkley is the perfect guy. He he

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Speaker 1: could give you some help with the best team in

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Speaker 1: the division and say, listen, here's what they like to do.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they're thinking about. Here's what we did last year.

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Speaker 1: Here's the whole nine yards, and that's exactly the role

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Speaker 1: he played here in Buffalo is the role that the

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Speaker 1: Jets are looking for. And he's still out there now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he won't sign a deal as cheap as Josh Johnson,

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Speaker 1: maybe he wants maybe he wants five or whatever. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the case, But man, I think that's an

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Speaker 1: investment you gotta make in your most important player. And

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Speaker 1: I think Barkeley is that. I'm not saying just it's

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Speaker 1: it's Matt Barkley and nobody else. But Josh Johnson may

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Speaker 1: be great for that. Yeah, but I'm with you, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why they waited till him. Many from one

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Speaker 1: quarterback to the other, from Zach Wilson to Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: who is the subject of our Twitter conversation today, and

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Speaker 1: we lay it out pretty simply. What's it gonna take

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Speaker 1: for Josh Allen win MVP this season? We know that's

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Speaker 1: probably not number one on his priority list. It's winning

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl clearly, but he was runner up last year?

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Speaker 1: What's it gonna take for him to win MVP this season?

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Speaker 1: Choices for you are a stats only b wins only

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Speaker 1: ce winning the head to head matchups against the likes

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Speaker 1: of Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes or something else. You

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Speaker 1: can give us a call at eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty or

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Speaker 1: you can hit us up on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Steve and I have to take a

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Speaker 1: break here, but we'll be back with your comments and

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Speaker 1: calls next on one Bill's Line presented by Colloida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio and we're back here on one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live and we are discussing what it's going to

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Speaker 1: take for Josh Allen win MVP this season. Choices are

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Speaker 1: there for you on Twitter at one bills Live stats

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Speaker 1: only wins only winning the head to head matchups against

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Speaker 1: Brady and Mahomes or something else. The shocking thing, Steve,

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Speaker 1: is the early returns in the polling on the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll as shocked. I am. I know you were. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm mentioning it so out in front, way out

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Speaker 1: in front of the voting was winning the head to

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Speaker 1: head matchups against Mahomes and Brady this year. That has

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Speaker 1: got almost sixty percent of the vote and it is

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Speaker 1: far outpacing the other choices, stats only, wins only, or

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Speaker 1: something else. My question to you is is that enough

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Speaker 1: if you beat Brady and Mahomes. I think people are saying,

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Speaker 1: beat Brady and Mahomes under the assumption the team still

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Speaker 1: winning twelve thirteen games, right, get into the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: all of that. Yeah, like like that would put him

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Speaker 1: over the top. Right, It's not going to do it

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Speaker 1: for him alone, and the team goes nine and eighty

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Speaker 1: for ten or seven. Here's here's what I think as well.

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Speaker 1: If you've got well, I'll tell you this. Um Rogers

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Speaker 1: won it with stats last year. Well they had wins too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Um who had it with wins? With merely wins in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years? Did you think Lamar had

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Speaker 1: it with only when his stats were unique? I mean

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Speaker 1: they were rushing and all that, a bunch of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Um not, couldn't didn't throw it much in twenty nineteen. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's say who else or was in two thousand nineteen.

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Speaker 1: It was two thousand and eight. Mahomes was eighteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't Mahomes eighteen. Chas was nineteen. That's right. So

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Speaker 1: Rodgers twenty wins gonna head to head. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if head to head will have much effect at all.

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Speaker 1: I think Bills fans that voted for that, I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to speak for them, but this is my this

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Speaker 1: is my educated guests as to what they were thinking

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Speaker 1: in voting that way. I think they feel that Josh

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Speaker 1: is still considered to be a step behind the elite

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Speaker 1: of the elite Mahomes, Rogers Brady, and I think they

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Speaker 1: believe if he beats those two quarterbacks head to head

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Speaker 1: and has as much success with wins and losses as

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Speaker 1: the team did last year, that'll put him over the top,

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Speaker 1: and that'll make them say, you know what, the kid

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Speaker 1: had a great year last year. He did it again.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he beat Mahomes, Brady and

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Speaker 1: Brady head to head in the same season and they

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Speaker 1: won twelve games. Give him the damn thing. Twelve of

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Speaker 1: fifteen or eleven of fifteen whatever. So in that kind

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Speaker 1: of if you add all that up, then I could

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Speaker 1: see that as being the deciding factor to get him there.

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Speaker 1: Very often, though statistics have ruled the day. Most touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes now obviously, if a quarterback has fifty touchdown passes

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Speaker 1: his team better be winning a ton of games, and

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Speaker 1: usually that's the case. I mean, I think Brady had

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Speaker 1: fifty touchdown passes in the team's undefeated season. Mahomes had

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Speaker 1: fifty touchdown passes in eighteen, and I think the team

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Speaker 1: win either twelve and four or thirteen and three. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's been stats based to a great degree. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could argue with stats and wins, but when you

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Speaker 1: have the stats, wins often come with them, right, So

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Speaker 1: they're kind of one and the same in a way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think in yeah, you can count, we're probably splitting

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Speaker 1: hairs a little bit. Well, a wins is a stat,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but it's a team stat. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's an circular argument a little bit, no question. And

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Speaker 1: we came up with this Twitter poll and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I'm okay with this one. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: only reason we're doing is because I came up with

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Speaker 1: this Twitter poll and I was so mad at the

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Speaker 1: other one we had the other day, so they let

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Speaker 1: me pick this one. But it's it's a mixture of

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Speaker 1: all of these, no question. But when you come down

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Speaker 1: to what puts a guy over the top, I think

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Speaker 1: stats or the one that does it, because that's what

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Speaker 1: everybody points to. You can't have a guy like Rogers

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Speaker 1: and he's got fewer touchdowns than Josh Allen and Russ Wilson.

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Speaker 1: You can't put him as an MVP when there's two

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Speaker 1: other guys that have more touchdowns. You can't put this

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Speaker 1: guy's an MVP if his team has four fewer wins

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Speaker 1: or six fewer wins and another team does, and nobody

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Speaker 1: was given Trent Dial for the MVP. When the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: that's right, in two thousand had their defense carrying them

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Speaker 1: to the super That's right. So it's it's a mix

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Speaker 1: of all of that, and it's a total package thing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that, and I get it sitting

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Speaker 1: from this end of the season rather than the next.

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Speaker 1: The other end of the season, you think, yeah, beat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Brady and we're gonna be all right, And

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Speaker 1: that I think is is kind of a one of

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Speaker 1: those things where all take the wins against those guys

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Speaker 1: because those are guys we gotta beat to win it all,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I can see that

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Speaker 1: logic as well. But yeah, you're not going to see

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Speaker 1: a guy win the MVP unless he's got more touchdowns

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Speaker 1: anybody else. I don't think yeah and yards and all that.

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Speaker 1: Other year. You gotta put up the numbers, you really do.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's about. Because you've got people who don't

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Speaker 1: see him play. Well, that's voter one, and then number two.

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Speaker 1: You know, I still think the vast majorities of voters,

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Speaker 1: you know, they even if they do study the game,

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Speaker 1: they there's no way for them to know the intricacies

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Speaker 1: of this quarterback's offensive scheme that he runs as opposed

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Speaker 1: to this quarterback scheme that he runs to make a

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Speaker 1: fair assessment in that way, like maybe one quarterback's got

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more on his shoulders and turns of

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Speaker 1: change and stuff at the line of scrimmage, or you know,

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Speaker 1: calling audibles and that, and there might be another quarterback

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Speaker 1: that really doesn't have all that freedom. And so the

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Speaker 1: guy that's got ten more responsibility on his plate is

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Speaker 1: still more productive than this guy over here who's in

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Speaker 1: a fixed offense that has everything done for him, or

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Speaker 1: maybe as a center that calls the protections for him.

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Speaker 1: You know, they can't judge that stuff because it's very

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Speaker 1: hard to know that it's like the perception. It's like

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Speaker 1: the perception everybody had about Jared Goff when he was

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Speaker 1: at LA when they went to the Super Bowl. Sean

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Speaker 1: McVeagh got a ton of the credit for what Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff did because Jared Goff was a bust under his

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Speaker 1: first year with Jeff Fisher as his head coach. Then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the next year's this, He's going

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl with Sean mcvaigh. So McVeigh gets

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Speaker 1: most of that credit. Even though Jared Goff's a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback. They didn't get they didn't win it, but

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Speaker 1: he's a super Bowl quarterback. So there's all that gets

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Speaker 1: in mixed into that stew as well. And it's hard

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Speaker 1: hard to fathom me because every MVP season that we've seen,

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Speaker 1: all of them are outstanding statistically, but they also but

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Speaker 1: they're also unique in each each and nut every one

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Speaker 1: of them in their own way. You know, every great

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Speaker 1: quarterback year isn't like every other great quarterback year. The

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Speaker 1: year that Peyton Manning put together when they got to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and got beat by the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: was that offense was unbelievable for its time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was you know, eight years ago, but nine years ago.

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Speaker 1: But that offense was a juggernaut. It was absolutely a juggernaut.

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Speaker 1: And to have them get to the Super Bowl was

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Speaker 1: almost a foregone conclusion that season. You could not keep

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Speaker 1: them off the scoreboard. They were unbelievable and that's why.

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Speaker 1: And to have them show up in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and get trouns like they did with such a thing.

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Speaker 1: But Peyton Manning won the Super had the MVP wrapped

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Speaker 1: up by Week ten because through for fifty four hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: fifty five touchdowns against ten picks. Right, my god, what

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00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: was his completion percentage? Sixty eight point three. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think about it. He threw the ball six hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty nine times, so so think about it. He

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Speaker 1: that's what Josh Allen's season would look like. If he

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Speaker 1: takes a five percent jump in his completion percentage, that's

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Speaker 1: what he'll throw four. Yeah, he'll three. He may not

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Speaker 1: have fifty whatever, fifty five fifty five touchdowns, a fifty

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Speaker 1: four yard and ten picks. He may have like fifteen

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Speaker 1: picks and fifty three hundred yard or whatever, but that's

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like. And we you it might

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Speaker 1: even look better than that given this offense in the

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Speaker 1: in the state of the league now, because it's a

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Speaker 1: little different. So that's that's nuts, man, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: That's why when anybody asks you, let me just educate Brownie.

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Speaker 1: When they ask who the greatest defense of all time

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl was, it's the Seattle Seahawks. It's

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Speaker 1: not the eighty five Bears. It's not the Pittsburgh Steas.

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Speaker 1: They won that game. It's not handily forty eight to

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Speaker 1: thirty eight to eight or something. They absolutely won that game.

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Speaker 1: It was the best Super Bowl defensive performance of all

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Speaker 1: time bar none. Because I'll tell you this one. Here's why.

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Speaker 1: Because of the caliber of the offense they were going against.

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Speaker 1: It was sixteenth ranked offense in the league in the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, in the New England Patriots in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans against the Bears, it was the sixteenth ranked offense.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks played the number one offense at that

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Speaker 1: point in history of all time, of all time, and

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00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: they lumped them up. That is the greatest defensive performance

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Speaker 1: in NFL history in the Super Bowl. Pretty cool. They're

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Speaker 1: there might have been overall better defenses for their error

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Speaker 1: or whatever whenever. But in a Super Bowl, those are

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Speaker 1: the guys. Those are the guys, and they and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people don't don't remember it, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it was the defense that ruled the day. And

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Speaker 1: everybody tends Russ Wilson is rookie contract all of that

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Speaker 1: interesting discussion, as uh, we are how do we get there?

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Speaker 1: By the way, where do we start? We're just talking

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Speaker 1: about what it takes to win the MVP. That's right,

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Speaker 1: because we want to know what's it gonna take for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen win MVP this season. Choices are there for

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Speaker 1: you at One Bills Live. We'll get to your comments

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. We have to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but when we come back, we'll start ripping through those

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Speaker 1: to see what you have to say. What is it

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Speaker 1: gonna take for Josh to win the MVP after finishing

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Speaker 1: runner up last season? We're back with more here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Line presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the tweet sheet. It is time as

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Speaker 1: we are asking you what's it gonna take for Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen to actually win MVP? Finished runner up last year

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Speaker 1: and in any normal season, Steve, if Josh Allen had

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Speaker 1: the year he had and Aaron Rodgers season didn't exist,

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Speaker 1: he would have won MVP. Those numbers, Yeah, he would

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Speaker 1: have won. There's been numerous years where Josh's numbers are

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Speaker 1: better than the MVP that year. You know, the league,

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Speaker 1: the whole league was the way it was then, and

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Speaker 1: that's just why it is. And that's why an MVP

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Speaker 1: is an MVP as a better year than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers did. He was lights out last year.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe there's baggage that goes along

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Speaker 1: with that that happened during this offseason. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but it's and here's what we also saw. You think about,

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Speaker 1: since we're talking about this MVP, what it takes to

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Speaker 1: win it. Um. I can't remember what week it was

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Speaker 1: last year. I'll look it up here while I'm while

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking, but the Bills play Seattle Seahawks, and Russ

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Speaker 1: Wilson was the MVP candidate in the NFC. He was,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was right there with with Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: with Mahomes, all those guys. He was right there with it.

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Speaker 1: And he comes into Buffalo and he has a bad

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: game against the Bills, and well, he's out of it.

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Speaker 1: He never gets back into it. You have to be

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Speaker 1: good from start to finish. That was Week nine of

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Speaker 1: last year and the Bills beat him by ten and

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Speaker 1: the Bills go to seven and two with that win,

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Speaker 1: just after the middle point of the season. And Russ

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Speaker 1: Wilson never gets back in it after that for whatever,

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Speaker 1: whether whether the team you know, took a downturn after

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Speaker 1: that game or whatever, but the Bills didn't. They continued

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Speaker 1: on plowing through their schedule. They had one loss the

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Speaker 1: rest of the way on a Hail Mary in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and they were on a without that loss, they without

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Speaker 1: that well, even with that loss, they win. They win

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Speaker 1: nine games in a row to finish the season. There

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Speaker 1: would have been ten in a row had it not

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Speaker 1: been for that game. And that's on the quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 1: Josh gets a lot of credit for that. His stats

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Speaker 1: stayed up and stayed relevant throughout the year. That's what

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Speaker 1: it takes. It takes great games in the first month

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Speaker 1: of the season, and it takes great games at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. You gotta stay good the whole year,

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Speaker 1: otherwise you fall out of the conversation, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: climb back in time. Now for the tweet sheet, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. What will it take for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen win the MVP this season? Stats only wins,

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Speaker 1: only winning the head to head matchups against Brady and

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Speaker 1: Mahomes or something else. Rusty leads us off by saying

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00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: all of the above and some luck. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo just does not get respect in the national media.

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00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: We're considered small potatoes. Alan will have to put up

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Speaker 1: huge numbers again, Bills will need to win thirteen plus games,

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Speaker 1: and I'll have to beat Mahomes and still get lucky.

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Speaker 1: The lack of respect sucks. I will say this because

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Speaker 1: we talked about this last season, Josh going into the

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Speaker 1: four primetime games we were I remember saying this, He's

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Speaker 1: got to show up big time in the primetime games

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Speaker 1: to get a little bit more national respect and recognition.

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Speaker 1: And he did that in a big way. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Niners game was prime time, the Steelers Sunday night game,

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Speaker 1: and then the Patriots game Week sixteen. I think that

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Speaker 1: one sealed and sealed it for him in terms of

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Speaker 1: where he finished in the MVP voting. When you think

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Speaker 1: about it, yeah, and I get it too for fans

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Speaker 1: around the country and and certainly other local media markets

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Speaker 1: buff Maybe you know, Finger quotes small potatoes like Rusty says.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the national media thinks that anymore. I

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Speaker 1: think I M not about Josh and I don't think

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Speaker 1: they take any franchise lightly that has done what the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have done over the last handful of years.

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Speaker 1: I think that while it is, you know, the Bills

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Speaker 1: have never won anything. You know, it's you know, the

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Speaker 1: conference title, yeah, but you know they've never won a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. But I think the way the team plays now,

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Speaker 1: with this coaching staff and this regime and what and

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Speaker 1: the way they have structured their organization and the way

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Speaker 1: they've looked on prime time in the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: I think all that kind of gets washed away now

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Speaker 1: with the national media. And it's easy to say that

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Speaker 1: now in you know, August, But when Josh shows up

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Speaker 1: like he does on Thanksgiving Day, when he shows up

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00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: like he does on Monday night, when he shows up

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Speaker 1: like he does on Sunday night, and the Bills are

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Speaker 1: getting what five primetime games this year or something like

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Speaker 1: that plus a four o'clock game. I think it's four

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Speaker 1: plus the four o'clock. Um. Yeah, that that tells you

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Speaker 1: all you need to know. People want to see this

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Speaker 1: team play, and I have every I have every confidence

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Speaker 1: that when this team does play, they're gonna show up

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Speaker 1: and show out well, and Bill's fans are gonna be

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Speaker 1: proud of them. It's it's a it's a good team.

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Speaker 1: They go two weeks in a row on the Week

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Speaker 1: five and Week six with the Tennessee and Kansas City games,

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Speaker 1: then back to back again, and then back to back

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Speaker 1: all again. Well with almost three weeks in a row,

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Speaker 1: weeks Saints on Thanksgiving, Sunday Night football or Monday Night football,

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Speaker 1: I guess against the Saints, and then no, it's Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: against the Saints, I'm sorry, against the Patriots. Yeah, Monday

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Speaker 1: night football, and then the four o'clock or against and

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Speaker 1: then the four o'clock against Tampa Bay. That they're well,

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Speaker 1: when you get games like that, you're respected by the

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Speaker 1: national media, at least the people who are really count

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Speaker 1: and that's yeah, the people who put them on TV.

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Speaker 1: Vince on the tweet sheet says from what it seems

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Speaker 1: like last year's stats didn't matter in the MVP race,

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Speaker 1: but wins did play a major factor, and Josh not

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Speaker 1: getting the award two or maybe even one more win

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Speaker 1: last year would have put him on the top. Undoubtedly

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Speaker 1: he could win all the head to head games and

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Speaker 1: still lose the MVP. I'm trying to disagree with that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. They won thirteen games. How about this, though,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just had an out of the universe season

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Speaker 1: that was even superior to Josh Allen's rare air season.

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Speaker 1: Josh had fifty touchdowns, two with his rushing touchdowns extend

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Speaker 1: his receiving touchdown and his throwing. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If think about it, if they think about that Arizona

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Speaker 1: game in Specuit, let's just take for a minute and

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Speaker 1: spin it as positive as you can for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: If the Arizona Hail Mary falls at false incomplete, like

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Speaker 1: the Bills down the road, on the on the road,

848
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: down the field with a twenty four seconds left on

849
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: the clock, made an impossible throat to Steph Diggs, who

850
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: made a fantastic catch in the corner end zone against

851
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Peters, one of the Peterson one of the premier

852
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: corners in the league. And they win that game on

853
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: the road with that kind of drive twenty four seconds left.

854
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: That whole the whole narrative of that game goes from

855
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: being an award winning photo of step of DeAndre Hopkins

856
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: and the sps and then buying Kyle and the Hail

857
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: Murray and all that, all that stuff is washed away

858
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: and that game becomes about Josh Allen and Steph Diggs

859
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: thrown at the back of the end zone and then

860
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: they're on their way to twelve story eleven straight wins.

861
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, that may have been the thing

862
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: that puts you at fourteen and two and puts Josh

863
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: in the in the driver's seat for the MVP. That

864
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: stuff right there, plus the showing out on Monday Night

865
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots and lighten them up after

866
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: they'd you know, been an albatross around the neck of

867
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Bills fans for decades exactly that. You know what, it

868
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: is easy to think, you know what, that guy is

869
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: the MVP. This team won fourteen games, and so did

870
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs did too. I mean they were

871
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: fourteen and two as well. Right, so yeah, you know

872
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: you get so all of that stuff goes into the

873
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: mix and you can say, yeah, you know what, maybe

874
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Josh is close enough, but Rodgers. But here's the thing

875
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: that kind of takes away the win argument for me. Like,

876
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, Vince says it was wins that played a

877
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: major factor in him not getting the MVP. Well, Aaron

878
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers won the MVP. Both teams were thirteen and three. Yeah,

879
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: if Josh's fourteen and two in the same conference with

880
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Oh, I think I understand Fann. So he's

881
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: saying they gotta win one. If they had won one

882
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: more game, it might have been the difference. I don't

883
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Because the stats that

884
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: Rogers put up were just stupid. I mean, they were

885
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: just stupid numbers. You know, Josh's numbers were stupid. Yeah,

886
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: Plus they came out of nowhere, and and maybe because

887
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: they came out of nowhere, everybody's like, you know, it's

888
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: like I want to see him do it one more time,

889
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, Aaron Rodgers do this before,

890
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: so it's not out of the ordinary. Uh. And for

891
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: some voters, you think, you know what. Aaron Rodgers has

892
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: won it twice already. You know this kid comes out

893
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: and puts the numbers like this. I think it's his turn.

894
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing, or you might just say, no,

895
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that kid and something. He's a flash

896
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: in the pan. I'm gonna go with a truly great

897
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: guy and give it to Rodgers. All of that stuff

898
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: goes in the because there's human beings voting and they

899
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: have their own biases. But if you get Josh fourteen

900
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: and two, Aaron Rodgers thirteen and three, and Josh has

901
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 1: a defense that's middle of the road, and he's throwing

902
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: the football sixty percent of the time and more than

903
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: anybody else on first down, and he's also throwing the

904
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: ball as much out of four wide as second best

905
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: out of most out of four wide, is anybody in

906
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, maybe Josh. Maybe, Maybe that Hail Murray

907
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: does tip the scales in his favor. If it does,

908
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: if it falls incomplete, I mean he threw for three

909
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: hundred almost three hundred more yards then Rogers. Rogers still

910
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: had more touchdowns than him, even if you add in

911
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: his rushing and receiving touchdown right, because Rogers had three

912
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: forty eight touchdown passes, and then if you throw in

913
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: his rushing let me see how many rushing touchdowns did

914
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: he have three? So he had fifty one touchdowns and

915
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: I believe Josh had forty six, So yeah, he had

916
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: him beat there. He had five interceptions, Josh had ten,

917
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: So I mean the numbers were there to support Rogers.

918
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 1: I mean even his passer rating was higher than Josh.

919
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: Josh was one oh seven two and Rogers was one

920
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty one point five. So that led the league. That

921
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: led the league. His completion percentage led the league. It's

922
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: seventy point seven, which was like a point and a

923
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: half higher than Josh. And that's my point, Like Josh's

924
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: numbers are MVP worthy in just about any other season.

925
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: He just happened to have those numbers in a season

926
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: where Aaron Rodgers had one of the best years of

927
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: his seventeen year career. It was just bad timing more

928
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: than anything else. It's hard to do, man, It's a

929
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: hard it's a hard award to win. It's a hard

930
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: league to win in. But so here's the thing, think

931
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: about this, Maybe we should have put one of these

932
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: choices in our poll, just up Kate last year. Yeah, other,

933
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, just do what you did. He did that.

934
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: If he did what he did last year with a

935
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: better defense on his side, well, and I think people

936
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: are anticipating that will be the case this year. Yeah,

937
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: maybe that's it. If you can do that. And that's

938
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: what we've been saying. There's some of those voters you

939
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: know in your heart that are just and and you

940
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: see him on social media and bills fans go after

941
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: him all the time. I want to see him do

942
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: it again. Well, there's a little bit of that out there,

943
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: is if he does that again, well then what do

944
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: you do then? But that's a flawed argument too, because

945
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: now you're not judging him on this year, which is

946
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: what the award is designed for performance this year. Don't

947
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: ask him to go do it again. Did he do

948
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: enough for you to get the MVP this year? And

949
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this, really a bad way to look at it.

950
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: If some of those voters did that, My god. But

951
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't have a problem with Aaron

952
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers winning the MVP. Oh No, he was great and

953
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: he deserving. He deserved it. Um, it's a amazing too.

954
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: And it's not it's Josh got four votes. He got fifty. Yeah,

955
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: Rogers did, so a lot of people really knew what

956
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: they were looking at, and I did too. I you know,

957
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: it was it was it was not gonna happen for

958
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: the Bills, particularly, I don't know, they were lumping people

959
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: up at the end of the season. They were, and

960
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: he was a big reason why. I know he was.

961
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: I think it made I think it looked harder for

962
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: Rogers in Green Bay though he had to, so it

963
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: was perceived that he had to do more to lift

964
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: his team to victors were lump He was more quintessential

965
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: to their success. Really, yeah, maybe, I mean because look

966
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: at it, you can you can can I don't know

967
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: how these people think, but you could construe anything because

968
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: you could say, you know, Josh, he did all this,

969
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: and you got Matt Barkley coming in and throwing for

970
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: twenty five points against the best defense in the league

971
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: at the last at the end of the year. So

972
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's a team effort. Wasn't just

973
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Josh and Aaron Rodgers case and much too. Davante Adams

974
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: is there as well, But as much as Aaron Rodgers

975
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: has contributed to this narrative. It's me against the world,

976
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: including my own team's front office, and you look at me.

977
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: So that's a hard campaign to run against, right there,

978
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: it is, you know. And there's nothing to say that

979
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: Rogers isn't just as motivated now, knowing this could be

980
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: his last year in Green Bay. He's trying to maximize

981
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: his earning potential, knowing something could very well happen between

982
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: him and the Packers where he gets moved next year,

983
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: and he's looking for a new contract with whatever team

984
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: he goes to. I don't think he's you know what.

985
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's looking for his earning potential, oh kay.

986
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: And I think he's looking for a Tom Brady landing

987
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: spot where we can win a championship. Probably money counts,

988
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: though maybe not to him as much as others, but

989
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: it counts. It's never not a part of the equation ever,

990
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: far from the top of the list, if not the top.

991
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Break time here, Steve, and I back more of your

992
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet. Sheek, don't forget bottom of the hour.

993
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: About twenty four twenty five minutes from now, we will

994
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: have one. David Baker, head of the Pro Football Hall

995
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: of Fame joining us to talk Hall of Fame weekend,

996
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen with Troy Paula Mallow after testing

997
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: positive for COVID. Does he make the enshrinement or not.

998
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: We'll get details in a little bit here on One

999
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1000
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field,

1001
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

1002
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve a blimp. We're not even in

1003
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: the straged fear of normalcy. There we go our number

1004
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: two on a Wednesday for those just joining us, day

1005
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: off for the Bills on the practice field. They'll be

1006
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: back out there tomorrow where our coverage will continue here

1007
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: on the show as we'll be bringing you coach and

1008
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: player comments as we have every day since camp opened

1009
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: last week. Eight oh three, oh five fifty one eighty

1010
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty to get on board

1011
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: as we are discussing with you what it will take

1012
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen to win MVP this season. Choices there

1013
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: for you at one Bills Live on the Twitter and

1014
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: we go back to the tweet sheet at this point

1015
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: in time where Nick says, I think stats alone will

1016
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: be enough as long as he does as well as

1017
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: last year. His performance last year would have won him

1018
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: an MVP in most other years. We were discussing that

1019
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: just last segment, Rogers just happened to play exceptional If

1020
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 1: Rogers got the MVP without impressive wins or a Super

1021
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: Bowl Josh can two. Yeah, you know, I'm thinking about that. Steve,

1022
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: Stats pretty much carried the day for him. They did

1023
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: lose to the Bucks, they got thumped like thirty eight

1024
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: to ten last year the Packers. They also lost a

1025
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: division game to the Vikings by six points, and they

1026
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: lost to the Colts on the road thirty four thirty one.

1027
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Everything else was a victory. And you know, I know

1028
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: how you were talking Steve about how the Bills were

1029
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: lumping people up in the second half of the season.

1030
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: So were they? I mean outside of those losses, I

1031
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: mean they beat the Bears forty one twenty five, beat

1032
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles thirty to sixteen, they were a mess, beat

1033
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: the Lions by a little more than a touchdown or

1034
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: buy a touchdown, beat the Panthers twenty four to sixteen.

1035
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: But they beat the Titans forty to fourteen, and then

1036
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: they beat the Bears again thirty five to sixteen. So

1037
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe caliber if opponent not that great, but they were

1038
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: lumping some people up at the end of the season

1039
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, they finished the season on a six

1040
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: win streak and eight out of their last nine, So yeah,

1041
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was they run they Yeah, like all

1042
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: these like the Chiefs, the Bills, Packers, the Bucks. I

1043
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: mean they're you know, they finished on a hot streak

1044
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: and and that goes a long way. But you're right.

1045
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: They as many good things as you can say about

1046
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's season last year, and the Bills seasoned as

1047
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: a team, say the exact same thing about the Green

1048
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and and I'll say this too, as well

1049
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: as Steph Diggs played, and as well as a month

1050
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Davante Adams played. I think Josh had more weapons at

1051
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: his disposal than Aaron Rodgers did with past that first guy.

1052
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: That's probably true. He did have a dynamic back in

1053
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. Their running game might have been better than

1054
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: the Bills. Yeah, I would probably say yes, only because

1055
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: of jones home run hitting ability. I mean he could

1056
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: take a run eighty yards and out run DBS to

1057
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: the end zone, which is why they signed him to

1058
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: a big contract extension. Tiffany on the tweet, Chet says,

1059
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he has to lead the team to

1060
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: victories against the elite quarterbacks. Beating Brady Mahomes and others

1061
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: with a national TV audience watching will put him in

1062
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: the MVP conversation. The solid stats and victories are a

1063
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: given this season. I've said that, I've agreed with that.

1064
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't think there's been a lot of talk about

1065
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: a regression with Josh Allen. I don't think he's going

1066
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: to regress, even if his stats do take a hit

1067
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, like he doesn't throw

1068
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: for as many yards or for many as many yards

1069
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: a game as he did last year, or if his

1070
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: touchdown a TD or touchdown interception ratio is a little

1071
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: bit off, or his completion percentage doesn't go up to

1072
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: mid seventies, or if it drops to sixty eight point

1073
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: eight instead of sixty nine point two, something like that.

1074
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: I think he is what he is. That guy we

1075
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: saw all of last year is who he's going to

1076
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: continue to be. Now, what teams do to make him

1077
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: not look as good as he did last year. That

1078
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. They're gonna get some things done

1079
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: against him. They're gonna make some plays against him, working

1080
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: all off seasons to stop him. He's got a target

1081
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: on his back that's gonna cause him to have to

1082
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: either change his game or elevate his game, or change

1083
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: or you know, exploit a different facet of his game

1084
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: that he wasn't forced to last year. And it's up

1085
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: to Brian Dable to help him do that. But regression, no,

1086
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe a different season, yes, but he is that guy.

1087
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean I watched every snap a bunch last year.

1088
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: That is the guy you get right now. That's him.

1089
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: Whether he's he could get better, because we've seen him

1090
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: do nothing but get better, but I don't think he's

1091
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna take any sort of significant step back in any way,

1092
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: shape or form. The only reason people are going with

1093
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: that premise is there pointing to other quarterbacks of the

1094
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: recent past who that has happened to. Patrick Mahomes, he

1095
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: wins the MVP, he throws fifty touchdowns. The next year,

1096
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: he throws twenty six. Lamar Jackson wasn't as productive of

1097
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: the year after he won MVP. Aaron Rodgers has had

1098
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: some seasons where his numbers just weren't the same. And

1099
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: so I don't think anybody believes yet that Josh is

1100
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: capable of putting up those same numbers. I'm talking about

1101
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: his detractors now. They think, well, okay, great, he did

1102
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: it for one season. You know, there's no reason to

1103
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be able to put up those kinds

1104
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: of numbers again. There's no way he'll be otherworldly again.

1105
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: That's what the detractors say, and they have some recent

1106
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: history to back up that argument. And I suppose it's

1107
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: possible because super high flying, juggernaut offenses only last so

1108
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: long in this league. The league catches up, they come

1109
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: up with answers. They're able to neutralize certain aspects. I mean,

1110
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: Greatest Show on Turf got slowed down eventually, you know

1111
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: your guys offense people caught up to that. So yeah,

1112
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: you can make an argument that the numbers might slide

1113
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 1: back a little bit, but this guy's a unicorn. Many

1114
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: then to be ultraproductive. It's a little different in this

1115
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: day and age because even the offenses that Jim Kelly

1116
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: ran back in the nineties, they didn't change that offense.

1117
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: So they come up with different plays or some other

1118
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: different wrinkles, but their their basis for their the foundation

1119
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: of their offense never changed. That's not the way it

1120
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: is in any for any NFL team. Nowadays, you'll have

1121
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: teams change their identity on a much shorter turnaround than

1122
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: they did back then. This offense changed it in in

1123
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: twelve months. They were completely different, you know, this offense

1124
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: from the from the offense they ran in twenty twenty

1125
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: was couldn't have been more different. And Brian Dabel, who

1126
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 1: spoke this week, gave indication it's going to be different again, right,

1127
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: not just because some of the pieces on offense are different,

1128
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: but because that's what you gotta do to stay ahead

1129
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: of the current exactly. So it'll be a question of

1130
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: can the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen in particular in

1131
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: this case, play as well as he did a year

1132
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: ago in an offense that's a little bit different than

1133
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: it was a little a year ago. Ken he does

1134
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: he have the skill set to be an MVP candidate

1135
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: running an offense that's a little different than the one

1136
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: last year, running a lot of you know, higher percentage

1137
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: of four wide. Is he going to be Is he

1138
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna be as effective and a lot of that will

1139
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: fall on the guys around him as well. Getting open

1140
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: and making separation at the offensive line can get a

1141
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: run game going it like it didn't do as well

1142
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: last year. All of that stuff has to be found out.

1143
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: But that's what it's up that's what he's up to.

1144
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: Can Josh Allen be successful in an offense that is

1145
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: evolving away from what they were a year ago into

1146
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: something different? We'll see, yeah, And I think the offense

1147
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: will be diversified because Brian Dable has implicit trust in

1148
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: Josh to execute whatever needs to be executed. Not only that,

1149
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: I think Brian Dable has come to the conclusion that

1150
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: Josh adapts very well to change and that is why

1151
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: the Bill's offense has been able to stay ahead of

1152
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: the curve because they'll put something in on a Friday,

1153
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: It'll be in the game plan on Sunday as long

1154
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: as it look good and practice Friday. Yeah, we're gonna

1155
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: try it. Yeah, because you've got a quarterback that can

1156
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: do some things that not many other quarterbacks can do,

1157
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: and so you know you might have a play that

1158
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: there's not too many guys can do that. But if

1159
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: Josh Josey can execute it in a practice on Friday

1160
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: and it looks pretty good and the receiver feels good

1161
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: about it, and so does Josh. Probably going to be

1162
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: in the game plan on Sunday if they think it's

1163
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: an advantageous play that could work for them. And they've

1164
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: done that time and time again. I'm not going to

1165
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: give you a hard and fast number, but I would

1166
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: say it's easily a couple of dozen times over the

1167
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: last year they've done that where they've put a play

1168
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: in that you know, somebody brought to the table and

1169
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: table's very open to it. You, Oh, yeah, we'll try that, right,

1170
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's give it a shot. Let's see if it works.

1171
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: Guys get invested in it. Man, they wanted to works.

1172
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: That makes a difference. It makes a big difference. We'll see.

1173
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: I think there's no question a guy doesn't do it

1174
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: on his own. It's a team sport. Even Aaron Rodgers

1175
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: will point to his teammates and loves those guys. And

1176
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, Davante Adams had a fantastic year last year.

1177
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: So any quarterback or any player who wins it's going

1178
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: to have to point to his teammates and say they're

1179
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: the guys who did it for me. We don't even

1180
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: know who those guys are going to be for Josh

1181
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: Adam this year. Certainly you feel like you got to

1182
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: handle on a lot of them. But the offensive lines

1183
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: take in shape. They're signing guys all the time. The

1184
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: running back room is a committee that we have yet

1185
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: to see who the chairman of the board is on that.

1186
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: The wide receivers seem set and they seem deep, but

1187
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys at the bottom of the roster,

1188
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: and injuries are always a consideration. So I think this

1189
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a different type of looking offense

1190
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: this year. Certainly that we'll see flashes of exactly what

1191
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: they did last year along the way, and if they

1192
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: find out nobody has prepared or can can match what

1193
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: they did a year ago, you can bet it'll look

1194
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: exactly like it did a year ago. But they've got

1195
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: to be prepared with some other weapons in their in

1196
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: their toolbox, and they will be. But I I'll just

1197
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: go back to it, Josh's gonna be this guy. He

1198
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: has turned into this guy. It's who he is now

1199
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: and he wasn't if for lack of reps and a

1200
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: lack of knowledge. He would have been this guy two

1201
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: years ago, but he had some things he had to learn,

1202
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: and he had some practice he had to do, and

1203
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: he had some mechanics to work out. So do a

1204
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: lot of players and they never get it done. Josh

1205
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: has gotten it done. And once you get it done,

1206
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: it's not like you can undo it. So that's who

1207
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: he is. I think we're gonna get the same guy

1208
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: we got last year. What that looks like against the

1209
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: defenses they faced this year could be very different. It

1210
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: could be very different, and it could be better because

1211
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: at least on paper, based on rankings, and I know

1212
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: teams changed year to year, but the defensive units that

1213
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: they'll be facing this year don't look nearly as daunting

1214
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: as the string of teams they had last year. They

1215
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: faced ten teams that were in the top ten when

1216
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: they faced him against the pass against the past, and

1217
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: Josh lit him up. I think there were eight seven

1218
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: teams total in the top ten against the pass when

1219
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: the Bills played him, and the Bills went six and

1220
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: one against those teams, and Josh was really good in

1221
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: those games. I think he had like one pick for

1222
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: the entire seven games or something. Like that. He was.

1223
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: He threw he averaged three and a half touchdowns against

1224
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: all of those things or something, those games or something,

1225
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: but it was unbelievable. He was off the hook playing

1226
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: all those really good teams defenses, and yeah, the team

1227
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: showed it. And if you look at the season schedule

1228
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: this year, as our MSG viewers are getting the opportunity

1229
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: to do right now, I mean Washington, well, I should

1230
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: I should say Steelers have a good pass rush even

1231
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: without Budgeteers are going to be good defensively, they always are.

1232
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: The Dolphins cover corners. Washington's got the best front four

1233
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: in football. So those first three games are real test

1234
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: defensively for Buffalo. I think, yeah, a real test. I

1235
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a daunting task, but it's a

1236
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: respectable one, easily for each of the first three games. Texans,

1237
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Chiefs play defense a little bit differently,

1238
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: but it's been effective against this Bill's offense under Steve Spagnolo.

1239
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: Titans are just a physical defense, but they have revamped

1240
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: things entirely in their back seven. How is that going

1241
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: to look? Jaguars have some talent on their roster, but

1242
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: it's mostly on the offensive side of the ball, so

1243
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're gonna be able to stop

1244
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: too many teams. Jets are a work in progress. I

1245
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: think the Jets will be better defensively. Colts is a

1246
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: amidable task. Saints are still good or even though they're

1247
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: getting along in the tooth, and then it's not until

1248
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: December that they play that Patriots defense. And unfortunately, the

1249
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: Patriots defenses are usually playing their best football towards the

1250
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: end of the year, so that'll be a Patriot Box

1251
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: is a huge task. Saints Patriots, Bucks is a tough schedule. Yeah,

1252
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: that's a tough stretch there. Um Colts, Saints, Patriots, Bucks,

1253
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: Falcons and Jets. Nice way the season. As far as

1254
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: defensive appalling sprint there maybe, but it's it's gonna be that.

1255
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: Because they're playing the NFC South there's opposed the NFC West,

1256
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: and because they're playing the AFC South instead of the

1257
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: AFC West, the schedule falls much differently than it did

1258
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: a year ago. I mean they're playing now. Granted, they

1259
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: went three and one against the NFC West and they

1260
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: did the most difficult and the one loss was a

1261
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: Hail Mary player. You think about that, they swept their

1262
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: own division, swept the NFC West almost and went three

1263
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: and one against the AFC West. Yeah, they were calling

1264
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: those games last year with Murph in the booth. Yeah,

1265
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. I could not believe what I was

1266
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: looking at at times, how good their offense was. There

1267
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: were times when he thought, wow, this is you know

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Speaker 1: that I don't know. This is a tough down and

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Speaker 1: distance here, And they'd make a throw and catch and

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Speaker 1: first down and they'd get up and they'd move along

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Speaker 1: and it was like nothing, big huge crucial downs on

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Speaker 1: a third and nine all of a sudden step, how

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Speaker 1: did Steph Diggs get open it first and ten? Fourteen

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Speaker 1: yard game? It happened time and time again. They were

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Speaker 1: unbelievable on third down. They were throwing the heck out

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Speaker 1: of it on first down, and there was somebody new

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Speaker 1: contributing offensively just about all the time. And one of

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Speaker 1: those wide outs are a tight and whoever. It was amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was an amazing year last year. And they did

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Speaker 1: it against the most difficult schedule we've seen in a while. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it was fifth in terms of strength of

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Speaker 1: schedule going into the year last year. That is not

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Speaker 1: the case this year, they're down in the twenties. I

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Speaker 1: think it's twenty third in terms of strength of schedule.

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Speaker 1: We know that the NFL is a week to week league,

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Speaker 1: So what may not look all that challenging on paper

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: could change dramatically once we get into the season, much

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Speaker 1: much like it was last year. That San Francisco game

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Speaker 1: looked like a virtual impossibility and then they were decimated

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Speaker 1: by injuries and it was a much different football game,

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Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that it was played in

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Speaker 1: Arizona because of the pandemic. Yeah, so that that game

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01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: by San Francisco last year was a little bit like

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: the Tennessee game for Buffalo weeks before it in Week

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Speaker 1: five when it was the Tennessee Titans on Sunday. Then

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Speaker 1: it was not going to happen. They were going to

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Speaker 1: play the Chiefs on Tuesday, and then that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: They played. Then it was back to the Ts on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Then they moved it to Tuesday, so it was a

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Speaker 1: Titans on Tuesday, by the way, and they're all COVID

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Speaker 1: ridden too. You're gonna catch the virus when you go

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Speaker 1: down there to play, you know. It's one of those things.

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: It was bad. That was a bad scheduling, snapfhoo. But

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Speaker 1: that's what the San Francisco forty nine were against when

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01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: they played the Bills out in Arizona. Same thing they

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: couldn't get back to, couldn't get back to California, all

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01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: of that was a mess. So they were kind of

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Speaker 1: up against the exact same hill that the Bills ran

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Speaker 1: into against Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, and I get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: pausing here because there was some Aaron Rodgers comments that

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Speaker 1: got some press. He was asked some reporter was trying

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Speaker 1: to find out what the center of his consternation with

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: the team was and tried to indicate, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: j M. Bryan gutencus that's what people are doing in

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Speaker 1: terms of connecting the dots. So they asked him, how

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Speaker 1: is the ongoing process of building a better relationship with

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Speaker 1: the Packers GM, and he said, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: work in progress for sure. This is a direct quote.

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Speaker 1: I think relationships are informed in a matter of a

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Speaker 1: couple of days. There's time where respect grows and the

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Speaker 1: communication follows. And this was prompted because GM Brian Gutencoust

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Speaker 1: was seen on the field talking to Aaron Rodgers during

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Speaker 1: some early warm up stages of practice, you know, before

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Speaker 1: practice officially started. Rogers is out there, he's throwing some

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Speaker 1: warm up throws and gutencoust to standing right next to

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Speaker 1: him and talking to him. So that's what prompted all

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Speaker 1: the questions from the media about where the relationship stands

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Speaker 1: between the two guys. So, yeah, when you're a player

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: and you're not being heard, people are naturally going to

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Speaker 1: look straight at the GM, especially with respect to personnel decisions,

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Speaker 1: with which Rogers outlined several times. So yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: take time. We'll see where it goes. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: it improves. I'm not convin instead will because I think

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Speaker 1: in Roger's head he's kind of made his bed as

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Speaker 1: to what his timetable is going to be for his

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Speaker 1: career in Green Bay going forward. Whether he can get

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: a get out of jail free card the clocks remains

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Speaker 1: to be seen. But yeah, the clock is clearly ticking.

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Speaker 1: Break time here for us. When we come back, we

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Speaker 1: will be talking with Pro Football Hall of Fame head

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Speaker 1: David Baker. They got a big weekend coming up. We'll

1342
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: get the details from him and see what is going

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: on with Troy Polamalo and whether he's going to be

1344
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: able to show up for his own enshrinement after testing

1345
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: COVID positive last week. We'll see where that all stands

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Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Colloid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: and please to be now by the man who is

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01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: probably the number one neighbor you'd want to have knock

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01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: on your door if you were a former NFL football player.

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01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: Maybe since mister Rogers, it's the president and CEO of

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, it has one David Baker kind

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01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: enough to join us here on the show during a

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: very busy week for them, So we appreciate you giving

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Speaker 1: us some time. David. Happy to have you with us.

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: How you doing, Chris, Great to be with you and Steve.

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01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: We are getting ready for the first full stadium for

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01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: football in eighteen months. Yeah. It's going to be the

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: greatest in trinument ever with twenty eight inches this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's a very special because weekend, because it's different

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Speaker 1: than any other induction because of the centennial class and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have ceremonies what Friday night and Sunday. I

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01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: mean it give us an idea of how much extra

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01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame had to go through to make

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Speaker 1: this happen. Yeah, Unfortunately, last year was going to be

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Speaker 1: I think the greatest gathering in football ever because we

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Speaker 1: were gonna have twenty Incharinese for twenty twenty with a

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Speaker 1: centenal class celebrating the NFL's hundredth anniversary. But because of COVID,

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Speaker 1: obviously safety comes first, we had to cancel it and

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Speaker 1: we put it over to this year. Now, you added

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Speaker 1: to this incredible class of twenty twenty one, which is

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, John Lynch, Charles Woodson, Calvin Johnson, Allen Fanica,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, assuming Drew Pearson, Tom Flores, Bill Nunn. I

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Speaker 1: mean that in and of itself might be one of

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Speaker 1: the great classes in the history of all You put

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Speaker 1: these two classes together, you got more guys being enshrined,

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01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: more people come into town, more celebration than ever before.

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Speaker 1: It is a spectacular tribement. Thursday night we have the

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Speaker 1: game between the Steelers and the Cowboys. Friday, we have

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Speaker 1: the Gold Jacket presentation where we'll give nineteen gold jacket

1382
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: out to the Living Hall of Famers. Saturday night will

1383
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: have the entrinement for the Class of twenty twenty, the

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Speaker 1: centennial class, and then Sunday night we'll have the tryment

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Speaker 1: for the Class of twenty twenty one. So, David, I

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: know you you mentioned safety first, and certainly the COVID

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: situations a lot better this year than it was last

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Speaker 1: year at this time. But what are some of the

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Speaker 1: workarounds that you guys still have to deal with with

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: something as intimate as say the gold jack at dinner

1391
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Speaker 1: for example. Yeah, you know, we're letting everybody know we're

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Speaker 1: following the CDC guidelines that you know, whether you're vaccinated

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Speaker 1: or unvaccinated. Now, if you're indoors, it's recommended that you

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Speaker 1: wear a mask. It's not required, but you know, we

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: recommend it. Were also have most of our events that

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Speaker 1: are outside you know, the game, the triment, the other

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Speaker 1: things there. We have sanitations, stations everywhere. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit difficult, you know, kind of keeping

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Speaker 1: social distance here, but to the extent that we program things,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to do that. Troy Palmalu, as you know,

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Speaker 1: earlier in the week, had tested positive actually last week,

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Speaker 1: and he will not be able to travel until he's

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: ready to come. He probably isn't going to hit all

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Speaker 1: the week, but if things work out well and as

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: symptoms are gone and things work out well, he might

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Speaker 1: make it. You know, on Saturday and the game Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys, Steelers versus Down, Steelers versus Cowboys, a

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01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: match of a super Bowl that is iconic in the

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: early days really when the Super Bowl hit its stride

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01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: as one of the national kind of holidays. To have

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Speaker 1: these two teams with all the Hall of Famers from

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Speaker 1: each franchise, it's got to be special, not just for

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but also for the city of Canton,

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Speaker 1: because I know Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cleveland, when one of their

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Speaker 1: guys goes in, Man, everybody from those towns shows up.

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Speaker 1: It's not that far away. Yeah, Steve, We're taking every

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Speaker 1: hotel for two hours from Canton. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people coming to town. Never before in the

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Speaker 1: history of the Hall have we had more than two

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Speaker 1: players being in trying from one team. Pittsburgh has five

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Speaker 1: in this weekend. The Cowboys have three in this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So this is a big time for those guys, but

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Speaker 1: but also a lot of other ones. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos have three and you know, no matter who

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Speaker 1: it is, it's going to be a special event. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we also have Commissioner Taglebo, who you know it should

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Speaker 1: be in clearly, and it's going to be, we think,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest gatherings in the history of football,

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Speaker 1: you know, because of all these great fans and all

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Speaker 1: these great people who are coming, who built this great game.

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Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of great parts of

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Speaker 1: your job. I know a lot of people would love

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01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: to have the job that you have. Does it get

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Speaker 1: better though than knocking on the door? That's got to

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: be the quintessential joy of your job, right, it doesn't

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01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: get better than that. Is there anything that's better than

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Speaker 1: that with your job? Gosh, I don't know. It is

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01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: a hard job to deliver life changing news to guys,

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01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: to give out the gold jacket, to give out the

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Speaker 1: Ring of excellence. And by the way, just before I

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: talk to you, guys, I just got through speaking to

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, so you know, I would tell

1443
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: this is the greatest job in the world. Everyone who

1444
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: loves football should have this job, but no knocking on

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01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: the door is You know, when we first did this,

1446
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: I was calling guys to let them know that we

1447
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: needed to get them to Radio City Music Hall in

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Speaker 1: New York. And you know, I called Ray Guy, the Hunter,

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Speaker 1: who'd been eligible for twenty nine years, and I said, Ray,

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Speaker 1: this day, Baker, I'm the new president of the hall.

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01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: And he said yes, sir, and I said it's my

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: great pleasure. And I got that far and he fell

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Speaker 1: to the ground. His phone is rattling around, his wife

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01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: is saying, honey, are you okay? And I thought I'd

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Speaker 1: killed my first Hall of Famer. He got up and

1456
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 1: he's said, hey, I'm not sure I understood until now

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: how much this means to me. And so then we

1458
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: knew we had to show to fans how much it

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Speaker 1: does mean to them when you're knocking on that door.

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Speaker 1: And Steve, I hope it's either me or my successor

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Speaker 1: that gets to knock on your door as one of

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Speaker 1: the great Special Teams players of all time. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're not thinking about how much money they made, They're

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01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: not thinking about their Super Bowl rings or their lombarties.

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Speaker 1: They're thinking about this incredible journey that they started. Maybe

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Speaker 1: their mom took them to practice when they were eight

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Speaker 1: or ten years old, or their dad wouldn't let him quit,

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Speaker 1: or a coach that inspired them, or teammates that helped

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Speaker 1: them get there. And it's like wrapping yourself in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league. You know, when you get that

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Speaker 1: knock on the door and it's really specter Calvin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: who you just saw. We were at his door at

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Speaker 1: like ten thirty at night in Detroit it's like nineteen below.

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01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: And as we're through, he says, are you going back

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: to Candadas? And now we're gonna go knock on some

1476
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: more doors And he says, Ah, you're gonna go gather

1477
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:47,520
Speaker 1: up some more tears, aren't you? And especial, special privilege

1478
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: to try to provide a special moment to all these

1479
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: guys who have given so many special moments to those

1480
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: of us who love this game. Well, let me say this.

1481
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: I know that you began your work with a Hall

1482
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: at twenty fourteen, and because of you, it has become

1483
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: a tradition to knock on the door to find out

1484
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: in person. And I'll say this, and I think it's

1485
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: one of the greatest decisions you've made and I think

1486
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: your legacy will live on because that is truly one

1487
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: of the great moments for players and for fans to

1488
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: see the great, great guys in the whole fame get

1489
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: acknowledged and to see how they really how it really

1490
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: does affect them. And I think that you're That gift

1491
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: that you've given to the football world is your legacy,

1492
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and I think you should be really proud of that.

1493
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most brilliant and effective

1494
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: uses of your job that I've ever seen, and I've

1495
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: got very, very big way. I've got to applaud you

1496
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: for that because I think that's just a wonderful gesture

1497
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: on behalf of the NFL. Well, listen, Steve, you know,

1498
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: I think you've probably been through this, and I know

1499
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: how hard your journey to get to the NFL, to

1500
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: stay in the NFL, and Marv Levy believing in you.

1501
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: I've heard that story. But you know, most of us

1502
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: as fans, we think you all fell out a bit great.

1503
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: You were bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, and because of that,

1504
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: you were the best ever And in reality, not one

1505
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: of you was given this. You earned it, you fought

1506
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: for it. You, You persevered, you drug a whole lot

1507
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: of other people to a place of greatness with you.

1508
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,839
Speaker 1: And I think that there are so many wonderful stories

1509
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: in that and I've heard them, you know. I mean,

1510
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: a guylined Jim Kelly is a great example, you know.

1511
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, Jim Kelly was an incredible football player, went

1512
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: to four Super Bowls, never won, but never gave up.

1513
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: And maybe God was really prepared for those greatest fight

1514
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: of all against cancer. And I think there are things

1515
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: that we can learn from you and the journey that

1516
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: you guys make that are bigger than football. And like

1517
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: I said, maybe it can help me be a better

1518
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: dad or help us be a better country. So David,

1519
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: not to We've got to. I mean, as you mentioned

1520
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: and laid out, we got a lot of people that

1521
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: we're going to give an opportunity to kind of say

1522
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: their peace and have their moment. I know, and I

1523
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: don't want to. I'm not trying to make this controversial

1524
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: in any way, David, but we know there's only a

1525
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: certain amount of time for you to kind of get

1526
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: in and out of your program. So what's going to

1527
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: be done to kind of hold guys to the time limits?

1528
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: That you guys try to impose and then don't want

1529
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: to be disrespectful of the moment the guy's having. That's

1530
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: got to be a tough balance for you guys to

1531
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: kind of keep everybody on time, right, Yeah, Chris, It

1532
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: is hard because these guys have certainly, in my view,

1533
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: earned the right to speak as long as they want,

1534
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: and some of us fans want that to happen. But

1535
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: to be fair to all the guys, this year, we've

1536
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: implemented a program where we'd like them to speak for

1537
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: six minutes. A light will come on at seven minutes,

1538
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: it spends at eight minutes, the teleprompter goes off, and

1539
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: at about eight to fifteen, I will run out there

1540
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and tackle them, you know, in a YouTube moment that

1541
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: will be famous forever if I can catch them. But

1542
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: you might not be able to catch a guy like

1543
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Edgar and James. But it is one of those situations

1544
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: where they you know, the Gettysburg address was two minutes

1545
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: and forty seven seconds, and you know, one of the

1546
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: greatest speeches of all time. But we have gotten the

1547
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: speeches of almost all our guys. I think there's maybe

1548
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: two we haven't gotten, and they've done a wonderful job

1549
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 1: of working at it, and I think it's going to

1550
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 1: be really great television. Again. This is the part, you know,

1551
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: it's strange to watch think of guys who were great

1552
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: at football giving a speech and all of you guys

1553
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: are media trained because you know, they've spent time with

1554
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: you guys with microphones in your face. But most of

1555
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: their life they were talking about about blitzers or schemes

1556
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: or you know, or teammates. This is the speech of

1557
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: their life. This is you know, who they're thanking, this

1558
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: is what they stand for. And I always find that

1559
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: there's this wonderful stuff in this, that they're golden nuggets

1560
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: in this that I can cherish to, that I can

1561
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: learn from. Whether it's Chris Carter talking about his mom

1562
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: and his brother going into the Hall of Fame with him,

1563
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: or Ladanian Thomlinson as the great grandson of a slave,

1564
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, talking about America coming together. It's to me.

1565
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: I love sports. I love all sports, not just the NFL.

1566
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: But it may be a little bit biased, but I

1567
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: love this the most of all. We every year we

1568
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: transcribe all our speeches, and every year the word love

1569
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: is used more than any other word. And all these speeches.

1570
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think the last time we did this

1571
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: there were seven guys who spoke and the word love

1572
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: was used one hundred and forty eight times. That's great.

1573
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 1: Last one, really quick, since you have seen a peek

1574
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: at all of these speeches, what's the over under on

1575
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: how many people Peyton Manning is ribbing in his speech? Well,

1576
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, day, I think we're all looking forward to that.

1577
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: It's spectacular. He's got a great sense of humor. But

1578
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: like I said, the day that we figuratively knocked on

1579
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: his door at what you're showing right now at Mile

1580
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: High Stadium, and we had all his coaches there and

1581
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: and we had his youth coaches at the high school

1582
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: coaches there on the video screen. I'll tell you he

1583
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: was so humbled and he knew he was going to

1584
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: make it. He took him ten seconds to be elected.

1585
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you when I told him, welcome to

1586
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: Canton and that we're going to guard his legacy forever,

1587
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: the guy was talking to is not the forty five

1588
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: year old you know marketing, you know, mavin incredible guy.

1589
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: It was that eight year old or ten year old

1590
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: kid that started the attorney and that's special. We we

1591
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: owe this guy a lot of special moments, just like

1592
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: we do use Steve and everybody else. And and Steve,

1593
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: let me say one other thing, if I could you

1594
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: know here in Canton when you get here for whatever reason,

1595
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: downtown we have Centennial Plaza. The people of Canon raised

1596
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars to have this park to commemorate the

1597
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: first hundred years of the NFL. And down there is

1598
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: listed the name of every player that played in the

1599
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: first century of the NFL, twenty five, four hundred and

1600
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: seventy four of which Steve Tasker has won. And we

1601
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: have an archive for you and every player, and we

1602
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: can pull your archive and someday I think you'll have

1603
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: a bronze bust here. You deserve it, you should be

1604
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,839
Speaker 1: in but it ain't easy. But we have that archive

1605
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: and you can add to it. And you know, one

1606
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: hundred grandchildren from now they could come here and not

1607
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: only know what you did, but know a little bit

1608
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: about the great man Yard. Well, I appreciate that, David,

1609
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. And I say this, I

1610
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: played in two Hall of Fame games, my first time

1611
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: as a professional athlete. Suiting up as a professional athlete

1612
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: was in the Hall of Fame Game in nineteen eighty five,

1613
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: and as a result of that, I know you do.

1614
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you still do this. Every player

1615
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: who plays on a team that plays in the Hall

1616
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: of Fame game gets a lifetime pass to the Hall

1617
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 1: of Fame. I've got two of them. I got fun

1618
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty five and one from nineteen eighty nine,

1619
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: and I still I treasure those little credit card looking things,

1620
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: and I can't wait, and when I come to can't

1621
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: and I always whip it out. And I'm very proud

1622
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: of it that I can have a lifetime past the

1623
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So whether whether I have a bust

1624
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: or not, I still go back and I'm still proud

1625
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: of I appreciate that. And all you guys do at

1626
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Thank you. We appreciate that all

1627
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: you guys have done and all that you continue to

1628
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: do for the game. God bless Yeah. Thanks David for

1629
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,879
Speaker 1: the time. Is always good luck on a fantastic weekend.

1630
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: The schedule looks great. We look forward to seeing all

1631
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: of it from front to back. Great guys, Thanks take care.

1632
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Right there. That's David Baker, President and CEO of a

1633
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, and Steve, you nailed it.

1634
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: You nailed it. It's it is it will clearly. I mean,

1635
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: maybe he's gys other good decisions that he makes to

1636
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: promote the game and the history of the game, but

1637
01:30:54,520 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: the personal touch that knocking on a candidate's door provides

1638
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: not only for that person, that former player, but for

1639
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: the NFL fan base to witness and share. You can't

1640
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 1: beat that. You can't beat that. Yeah, it's the best,

1641
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the absolute bad. I mean it is.

1642
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: It is platinum television, Platinum television. It's great. It's really great.

1643
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: And to think, you know, they you know, they had

1644
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: to get Peyton Manning in that spot where all his

1645
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: five coaches were there and have David. They went over

1646
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: the top, Baker's six nine ways over four and right.

1647
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 1: He's like, you can't hide him, and he snuck up

1648
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: behind Peyton man Peyton didn't know he was there, and

1649
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he turns around. There's this, you know,

1650
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: this giant of a man standing there and welcoming an end.

1651
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: The Hall does a fantastic job with it. I think

1652
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: it's one of the great things that David Baker has

1653
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: done for football is giving casual fans, diehard fans, you know,

1654
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: fans who are specifically fans of certain players who are

1655
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players, give them an insight as to

1656
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: what it really means to the players who've made the

1657
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: game great. Peyton Manning and Drew Pearson and all these guys,

1658
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: ron Um, the you know, the head coaches, Bill Kawer,

1659
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, all of those guys. It's just it's amazing too.

1660
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: It's such a treat to watch those guys get something

1661
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: given to them that they've been striving for their whole

1662
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: life and not for nothing. Uh. David Baker inadvertently put

1663
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on your five kids by saying,

1664
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: a hundred grandchildren can come see your name in Centennial Park.

1665
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know you're off to a

1666
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: good start, but my goodness, that's that's a high bar

1667
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: to clear, even for your famie to go. Yeah, tell

1668
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: them to get to work. Uh, we'll take a break here,

1669
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: but a really good job with David Baker there. We

1670
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: look forward to Hall of Fame festivities this weekend. Steve

1671
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: and I back with more here on One Bill's Live

1672
01:32:50,640 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: presented by Kali to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back.

1673
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: Great conversation there with President CEO the Pro Football Hall

1674
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: of Fame David Baker. Sure, it's going to be a

1675
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: jam packed weekend ton of inductees with the centennial class

1676
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: going in from twenty twenty along with the twenty twenty

1677
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 1: one class, which is loaded, I mean loaded. Peyton Manning,

1678
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Charles Woodson. I mean that's a heavyweight class, dude. Yeah,

1679
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: like Holy Crow. Yeah, Mike Fanicall, I mean one of

1680
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 1: the best guards of his generation. Yeah, Drew Pearson who

1681
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 1: finally got in. Tom Flores, who I thought was long deserving,

1682
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: finally got in, which was good to see. I think

1683
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: he was the only two time Super Bowl winning coach

1684
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: that was not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

1685
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 1: which is nuts. Do you think about that, right? How

1686
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: hard it is to win the Super Bowl? The guy

1687
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: won two? Um? Crazy? Yeah, the um. The class that

1688
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: got in. My first when I was talking to him

1689
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: that when I first suited it up, was look at

1690
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: this class that got in. Joe Namath, oj Pete Roselle

1691
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: and Frank Gatsky and Roger Staubach. She Yeah, Frank Gatsky

1692
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: was a forty nine or way back in the day.

1693
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: Who's a tremendous player. But Joe nameeth O, j Roger

1694
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Staubach and Pete Roselle. That's pretty good. That was when

1695
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: I That was the first game I ever suited up

1696
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 1: as a pro athlete for the Houston Oilers. Um, Steve,

1697
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: you've become a little bit of a debate. Um component

1698
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 1: what happened regarding Lion's head coach Dan Campbell. Well, you're

1699
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: gonna see next week. Yeah, um, so maybe we can

1700
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: settle this. But Lion's head coach Dan Campbell, who everybody

1701
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: knows now as the guy that's biting your kneecap off,

1702
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: or at least wants his players to do that if

1703
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: they get knocked down figuratively speaking, of course, has just

1704
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: come up with his latest press conference headline. He claims

1705
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: he starts the day with not one, but two forty

1706
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: ounce coffees with two shots of espresso each, So it's

1707
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: double espresso in a forty ounce coffee and then another

1708
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: double espresso in another forty ounce coffee number one, and

1709
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: he does this every day now. One of our good

1710
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 1: media friends from Rochester, Dan Fates tweeted back at the

1711
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: person that tweeted the Dan Campbell video and said, Hey,

1712
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, I think we found someone who may actually

1713
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: drink more coffee than you. We have since responded here

1714
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: at one bills live on our Twitter handle. Are you're

1715
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: putting people? You're setting him straight? Are you? Yeah? We're saying,

1716
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: can mister Campbell handle that? Plus a six pack of

1717
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 1: doctor pepper? Get on Steve Tasker's level. Let's let's hear.

1718
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: Let's hear Dan Campbell and exactly how he describes his

1719
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: morning beverage. Uh, lineup well too. Normally what I do

1720
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: is I get I'll get too venty. I go, you know, Starbucks,

1721
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: to get too venty of the pipe with two shots

1722
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: in him. So black eye am both. That's what I

1723
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: come in with. That's how I start today. So I

1724
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: don't know how his hands aren't shaking after they might be.

1725
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's a big guy. He probably

1726
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 1: that's probably before he does his yoga meditation. That guy

1727
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: does not do yoga ever, Yeah, you're probably right. That

1728
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: guy would headbutt a door. Yeah, as a morning ritual

1729
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: before he does yoga. Yeah, that's that's a lot of

1730
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,759
Speaker 1: but we all have our I do. I don't do forty.

1731
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I think I think my thing or twenty ounce. I

1732
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: think my coffee comes a twenty ouncer. Yeah, and then

1733
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: and that's getting But then again, excel at the drive

1734
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: through windows, in the carbonated beverages, roll in here around

1735
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 1: yeah dirty, and you're you're off and running again. Yeah.

1736
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't do sugar caffeine. I don't have a problem

1737
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: with right, I will second that. Uh yeah, there's something

1738
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: like yesterday. Yesterday I came in, I was I was

1739
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: a bit wired. You said something about it. I can't remember.

1740
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: We were going out to practice. Well, I was saying,

1741
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: if I drank as much coffee as you did, I

1742
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: would need a cafeter because I'd be running into the

1743
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: bathroom like six times an hour. But hey, everybody's got

1744
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: their own thing, man. Yeah, particularly at a job like cars,

1745
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: where we got a fairly rot you know, regimented routine,

1746
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: and we come in we're at this ye here at

1747
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: the same time we got out we got practice. We

1748
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: do thought that when you get into a routine, I

1749
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: mean you just keep cranking it, you know, you just

1750
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: kind of go. And when coffee is a part of

1751
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: that or whatever routine a run morning run or morning walk,

1752
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: or a certain breakfast or a certain unit. You just

1753
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: kind of go with it, right, Yeah, we should. For me,

1754
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: it's that it's right after we get off the air.

1755
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get that three o'clock drag. Yeah, and need

1756
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: to pick me. Yeah, if you get if you get

1757
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 1: off the I'm like you, I need like a little

1758
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: I need a little laid down nap or something. But

1759
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: I need to boost because I still got stuff to do, right, Like,

1760
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: so I that's when I got to hit because I

1761
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: usually just it's one cup in the morning and I'm good, right,

1762
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: and then three o'clock comes around. It's like, oh, my

1763
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 1: little pick we should have. That should be our next

1764
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Twitter poll. What you you know, what is the weirdest

1765
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: part about your morning routine? Right? I don't know if

1766
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: we want. I don't know if all those answers will

1767
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: be arible, right, um right, because yeah, that's our listening audience.

1768
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: Get creative. You're asking for it. Two forty ouncers and

1769
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: both of them with double espressos Starbucks. Yeah, it's it's

1770
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: two twenty ouncers. Yeah, he says, it's two Starbucks Ventis,

1771
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 1: which is two twenty ouncers, which is what I do.

1772
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I do, two twenty ouncers and then uh,

1773
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: but I don't do the espresso espresso shot. Yeah, that's uh,

1774
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: that'll change you if you throw those in there. Yeah,

1775
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: that's a personality alterer, that's for sure. No wonder he's

1776
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 1: biting people's kneecaps off, right, So okay, well we may

1777
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: have to have a showdown next week. We'll see what

1778
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: we can arrange with the Lions on that. Um. I

1779
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 1: know a couple of people and the Lions media relations

1780
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: office might be able to set that up. See we

1781
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: can get that try. I might have to try the

1782
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 1: espresso thing. Why not? Oh it's good, is it? Oh?

1783
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: You want to kick its? It'll give it. You've never

1784
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: done that? Yeah, you know, out of all out of

1785
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 1: all the places I did it, I did it in Italy.

1786
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so we were there of espresso. Yeah, we

1787
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: were there last year, and I kind of knew enough

1788
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Italian on how to order a double, which I think

1789
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: is dopeo espresso. I think that's how you're saying. Anyway,

1790
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: really hard right, Um, you know, you just learn enough

1791
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,480
Speaker 1: to get by. And I was we were on a

1792
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: daytime tour and I was just I was dragging. So

1793
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: there was a cafe on the way, and I tell

1794
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: him I'm popping in here. I gotta get something, right,

1795
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 1: So I jump in there, I get in line, and

1796
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: I get a double espresso and you know it's it's

1797
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a mouthful of nothing. Threw

1798
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: that back. Ten minutes later, I am ready to rock.

1799
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I felt like a fifteen year old. Nice, what are we?

1800
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 1: Where are we walking? Let's go? I was ready to roll. Man, Yeah,

1801
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: it was it does. It's a life changer there, at

1802
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: least for fifteen minutes. Right. What about the other end

1803
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: of it? When I did you crash? No? I didn't

1804
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: really crash. I'm trying to remember, did I when we

1805
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: got back on the tour bus. I'm trying to remember

1806
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: if I can't remember if I fell asleep when we

1807
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: got back on the tour bus. But I don't think

1808
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: I did. That can carry you for a couple of hours.

1809
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 1: You're pretty good. You're in good shape. That's good stuff.

1810
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, our number three coming your way.

1811
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: What's it gonna take for Josh Allen to win the MVP?

1812
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 1: You can give us a call at eight three, five

1813
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 1: fifty one, five fifty two, five fifty choices are there

1814
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 1: for you on one Bill's Live Steve and I back

1815
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 1: for more in a second at a Steve Tasker who

1816
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: has been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He

1817
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1818
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratgere of normalcy.

1819
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: Here we go plowing through our number three on a Wednesday,

1820
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we've been asking

1821
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 1: you on twitter poll what's it gonna take for Josh

1822
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Allen to win MVP this season? And we've had a

1823
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 1: bunch of good responses on the tweet sheet and we

1824
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: are now up to Dinah on said tweet sheet, who says,

1825
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think any one thing will be enough for

1826
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: those of you just joining us. The choices were stats only,

1827
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: wins only, winning the head to head matchups against Brady

1828
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: and Mahomes, or something else. If you have something else

1829
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: in mind, give us a call, E three five fifty.

1830
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: But Dinah says, I don't think any one of those

1831
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: things will be enough. He needs to have record breaking stats,

1832
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: almost no losses, with none of the losses coming against

1833
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: qbs who are also in the race, which would presumably

1834
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: include Mahomes and Brady. While the Bills are getting more recognition,

1835
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: there's still the Bills outside of the fan base, so

1836
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: there seems to be this inferiority complex among Bills fans like,

1837
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: ah they still don't respect us. We're we're in a

1838
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: small market Buffalo, We're not. If you're a good team,

1839
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: you're respected in this league. I don't care where are

1840
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 1: you play. You could be playing in tim Buck two.

1841
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: It's easy to see, though, particularly when you know the

1842
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs have taken the league by storm as they have

1843
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 1: over the past half dozen years with Pat Mahomes and

1844
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. It's easy to still think of the Bills

1845
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: as being that, you know, the drought team. They've been

1846
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: in the playoffs three out of the last four years,

1847
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: and the one time they didn't they had a rookie quarterback,

1848
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: and so it's going to take time for that to change.

1849
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: But when you start having seasons like Green Bay has

1850
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: had on and on and on, even though they haven't

1851
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, you're gonna be on that level.

1852
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say green Bay gets a lack of respect

1853
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: and they're smaller, and they're smaller. Kansas City isn't exactly

1854
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: a gigantic city either. New Orleans is not a big

1855
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:54,679
Speaker 1: market either, So all of those franchises kind of suffer

1856
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: from the same symptoms as Buffalo, But they've had a

1857
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: good team for longer, at least at least Green Bay

1858
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: and New York New Orleans have. So you know, it

1859
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: takes time because you have to convince people and you

1860
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: have to be that team that everybody has faced while

1861
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: you're really good and taking it on the chin from you,

1862
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: so that when they think about who they've got to

1863
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: play and they think, oh gosh, the Bills, Oh yeah,

1864
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, that it's not like other Bills. Who

1865
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 1: they there? Yeah, Josh, I don't know who they are.

1866
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: It's that kind of mentality for casual fans around the country.

1867
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: And until that changes, until you're that team there's like

1868
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,799
Speaker 1: always on, You're always on Monday Night, You're always thumping

1869
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: their team. You always have this guy that's in the

1870
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: top of the you know, MVP race. That's how you

1871
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: get relevant because it takes you almost have to form

1872
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: a habit for casual fans of being in the conversation

1873
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Bills are there yet. I

1874
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: think they're on their way though. Well at least they're

1875
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 1: good enough, that's for sure. Well you gotta keep doing it,

1876
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: That's all there is too. And Brandon Being and Sean

1877
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: McDermott have said from the word go they want to

1878
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: build a perennial contender, not a one and done type team,

1879
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of their actions have been strong indication

1880
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: that they're following through on that. So there you are.

1881
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: The Bruner has a much different outlook on this whole subject.

1882
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: I prefer he not win no MVP since Kurt Warner

1883
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine has even won a Super Bowl.

1884
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I will take being in the conversation with a Super

1885
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: Bowl win an MVP in that game. So I'm not

1886
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: really sure what he's saying at the end there, but

1887
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: he did he rather have the super Bowl than rather

1888
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,759
Speaker 1: a super Bowl win and an MVP in the Super

1889
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: Bowl than an MVP of the league. Oh okay, I

1890
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 1: get it in that game, under that game, yes, and

1891
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I get it. Certainly, nothing wrong with it. We'd all

1892
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 1: take we'd all take it, and why not. I think

1893
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Josh is going to be a really good player. For

1894
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: a really long time. He's always going to be in that.

1895
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,799
Speaker 1: I think the team has to follow suit. This coaching

1896
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: staff and this organization have proven over the last five

1897
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: years that they are good enough and on the right

1898
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: track with the right philosophy and the execution of that

1899
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: philosophy of being competitive every single year, and right now,

1900
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 1: particularly in this preseason, unlike any maybe any other for decades,

1901
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 1: the expectations are that this is a team is going

1902
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: to go and you got a quarterback is going to

1903
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: be in that conversation. There's no two ways about it.

1904
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: This is an organization that's that's elite in a lot

1905
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: of ways and has proven it. Yeah, Philip is still

1906
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: a little ornery from last year. Alan beat six of

1907
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 1: the top ten defenses last season. Qbs don't play qbs,

1908
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: they play defenses. Stats and records should have done it

1909
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: for him last season. Hopefully it will do it this year. Well,

1910
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: they should have done it last year, except that if

1911
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: somebody else had better ones. Yeah, you know, stats and records,

1912
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 1: it didn't necessarily play better defenses per se. If you

1913
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: want to argue that, Philip, I'm down with you. But yeah,

1914
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Rogers didn't play any better defenses. Teams, not collectively than Josh.

1915
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: Josh had a much more difficult schedule, no question, I

1916
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 1: would think I haven't without checking with a Green Bay

1917
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Packers play in the NFC North alone. Come on, what

1918
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,600
Speaker 1: are we doing Chicago and Detroit? You know that's a

1919
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 1: well last year was the Jets. Jets had a good

1920
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: defense last year, very quietly and red zone wise, and

1921
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Patriots weren't very good last year. So it was a

1922
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 1: down year for the FC East. It was. But that's man,

1923
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 1: that's valid. Yeah, but they didn't play the NFC West

1924
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: of the FC West like the Bills did. Brad on

1925
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet says, I think he has to be

1926
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,480
Speaker 1: better than last year with fewer interceptions and more touchdowns.

1927
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: A lot of people are expecting him to regress, so

1928
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:40,719
Speaker 1: I feel this is the only option prove people wrong again. Yeah,

1929
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 1: that's true. That's kind of becoming an old narrative. What

1930
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: else has he got to do? Yeah, and there'll be

1931
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: people too, I don't know. For instance, he had forty

1932
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: six touchdowns last year, what if he has forty this year?

1933
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Six interceptions? I mean there's people, you know, they're always

1934
01:47:58,240 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the way fans are They're always

1935
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna chop at you, whether you deserve it or not.

1936
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 1: They'll find some chink in the armor or whatever, some

1937
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 1: stat where you're not as good even you know, the

1938
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: team could go fifteen and two and there'll be people

1939
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 1: casting us persions at Josh Allen. That's just the way

1940
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 1: it is. That people just don't want to be proven wrong,

1941
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: even in the face of science and statistics. Okay, I

1942
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: guess prove them wrong again. That's good. I mean Josh

1943
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: seems to thrive in that environment. So I mean he

1944
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: says he doesn't pay attention to it because he said

1945
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't pay attention to the bad stuff, and he

1946
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: doesn't pay attention to the good stuff because he doesn't

1947
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: want it all to get twisted around in his head.

1948
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,919
Speaker 1: He said, I can mess with your mentals. Dante says,

1949
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 1: you think head to head would be the least likely

1950
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: you win MVP. You absolutely need the best stats and

1951
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: a lot of wins to be considered MVP. Can't just

1952
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,719
Speaker 1: be Brady and Mahomes or Lamar and not have stats

1953
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: or wins. Right. I made that point earlier in the show.

1954
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: I think the people that are voting for that, though,

1955
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 1: are voting with it is the thing that puts him

1956
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 1: over the top to get MVP. I think they're almost

1957
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: automatically assuming stats and wins, and then if you beat

1958
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Brady in the regular season, that would put

1959
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 1: him over the top. Yeah, it was. But here's the thing.

1960
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 1: Look back at last year. A player with phenomenal stats

1961
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: was Deshaun Watson. He had led the league in passing

1962
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,839
Speaker 1: yards I believe, Yeah he had. He had unbelievable statistics

1963
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: last year, but they couldn't win games and he wasn't

1964
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 1: even he didn't he wasn't even in the conversation as

1965
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 1: good as as good as he was. So it's not

1966
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna be just stats. But you would think a guy

1967
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: who's playing at that level is going to have the

1968
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 1: stats to back it up. But what's that look like?

1969
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: And how many different That's maybe a better question is

1970
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: how many different ways does it look when a quarterback

1971
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,600
Speaker 1: wins MVP? How Like how bad a stats can he

1972
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 1: have still get in the conversation and do enough for

1973
01:49:54,840 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: his team to win games and and get in the

1974
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: MVP race or win the MVP. And you you mentioned it.

1975
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: Trent Dilford, a Super Bowl winning quarterback who was never

1976
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: in the conversation for MVP, you know, and he was

1977
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 1: on a team that did it with defense, So that's

1978
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's small apart as the quarterback can play

1979
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: and not get in the MVP race. So it's been

1980
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: done both ways. He's got all the stats in the world,

1981
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 1: he's got all the wins in the world. Neither one

1982
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:34,799
Speaker 1: of them won. Yeah, nine and seven is the worst

1983
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 1: record for an MVP. Barry Sanders was a co MVP

1984
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven when the Lions went nine and seven,

1985
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: and running back MVPs historically have been on the teams

1986
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 1: that have had the fewest wins for an MVP. O. J.

1987
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: Simpson and Walter Payton both won it when they were

1988
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: still playing fourteen games, both nine and five team, and

1989
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 1: both MVPs whose teams were ten and six were also

1990
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: running backs, Marshall Falk Adrian Peterson. That's a pretty good group.

1991
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 1: So this would kind of lend credence to the fact

1992
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: that for a quarterback you gotta have the victories. Yeah,

1993
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 1: you gotta win. You gonna win games along with your

1994
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson example. Yeah, and think about that too, you

1995
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: get deep into the season. It's different now as well,

1996
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 1: And I guess all of us are talking from the

1997
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,799
Speaker 1: context of the twenty twenty one season, the twenty twenty season,

1998
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 1: because you can get a quarterback. If your team starts

1999
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: winning a lot of games, they're gonna get flexed to

2000
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: prime time. People are gonna get and they're gonna get

2001
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 1: eyeballs on them. And that makes a difference, right, I mean,

2002
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 1: MVP has got to be a player that everybody knows

2003
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: and is watching. You don't do that in a vacuum. Yeah,

2004
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: so you're gonna get wins because that's how you get

2005
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: flexed up and get more eyeballs on you to get

2006
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: in the conversation. Huh, it's a lot in there. There

2007
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: is a lot, but there's It's amazing too that we

2008
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: just came up with two examples of guys who were

2009
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: who did the extreme of the two choices. We have

2010
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: wins and statistics, and neither one of them were even

2011
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: got a whiff of the MVP conversation. JT on the

2012
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, I say stats and definitely beating Mahomes

2013
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 1: or Brady would not ch Allen the MVP and a

2014
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I predict Alan beats his own season passing

2015
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 1: record this year five thousand yards, forty three touchdowns. I

2016
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: predict a Super Bowl. Bill's mafia will be fired up

2017
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: this year. Being back in the stands Go Bills. We've

2018
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: had several discussions about that, just by virtue of the

2019
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: fact that you have one extra regular season game. Steve

2020
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 1: already did the math. What was it two five? I

2021
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: think if if he goes over five thousand, if it's

2022
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: that's a sixteen game, two hundred ninety two for seventeen

2023
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: with seventeen games, I think it's four four thousand, nine

2024
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: ninety eight or five thousand, twenty three or something like that. Now,

2025
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: the tricky part of it at which would be a

2026
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:05,799
Speaker 1: good dilemma to have, is if the team is comfortably

2027
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: ahead in the division race can improve their playoff positioning,

2028
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: as was the case last year, Josh still played a

2029
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: half of football in Week seventeen. Right, what happens this year,

2030
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: knowing it's an extra game, Does that change the conversation

2031
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: at all? You've already played sixteen games. Now you're gonna

2032
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: have him throw around for another one like well, the year, right,

2033
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 1: but it was only sixteen games. Now you get an

2034
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 1: extra game. No. One you're gonna be playing in the

2035
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: playoffs and hopefully playing three games. Yeah, it's two hundred

2036
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: and ninety four yards a game, passing, passing for five thousand,

2037
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: exactly five thousand. So yeah, that's and he'll you know,

2038
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some big games. We'll see. But um,

2039
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I know that's not something that

2040
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: he's chasing. If it happens, it happens kind of thing, right,

2041
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: they're chasing wins. Yeah, but we all know this too.

2042
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Their best way to win games is through the air

2043
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,719
Speaker 1: and getting the ball in Dig's hands and letting Josh

2044
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 1: sling it around with all those guys. So it's gonna happen.

2045
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 1: And I think there I think if he gets into

2046
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 1: that realm like they did last year, I thought there

2047
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of people, Remember there was a lot

2048
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: of people thought, do not play that guy. Week seventeen,

2049
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: there's playing there's people saying do not play that guy

2050
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: in the preseason, which is a whole other time this week, Right,

2051
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that, yeah on our podcast. But if

2052
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 1: I think, here's the thing, I get it. There's a

2053
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: risk in all of this, but there's also a responsibility

2054
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: to the game and to the players on your team.

2055
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: You know that it's it's it's a you know, and

2056
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: especially in this in this environment, let's talk about Simone

2057
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: Biles and your responsibility to your teammates, and Josh Allen

2058
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: his responsibil and the coach's responsibility to all the guys

2059
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 1: on the team. You got, you know, you got seventy

2060
01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: guys in the room or thereabouts, practice squad guys, fifty

2061
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: three guys on the roster, you got twenty five, twenty

2062
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: or thirty coaches, and all of those guys are there

2063
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: for one reason, win football games. And you sit a

2064
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 1: guy like Josh down, what about the other sixty plus

2065
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: guys on the team that are sitting there going what

2066
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 1: am I doing? You know? Yeah, there's one guy, and

2067
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: in this case it's Mitch Trubisky. He's like, yeah, yeah,

2068
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: all right, let me give me a chance. What about

2069
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 1: everybody else? Yeah? You know that's plus because yeah, okay, Josh,

2070
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: what I'm not at risk? Nobody else is at risk.

2071
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Every you got sixty you know, sixty plus other guys

2072
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: that are out there risking it. That's a responsibility of

2073
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 1: conversation that's hard to have when you get to a

2074
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: point a Week seventeen, and because of the structure of

2075
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: the league in the playoff system, that game is meaningless, right.

2076
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 1: But I think that's why they did play because coach mcturamid,

2077
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I think, does not want to go against his philosophy

2078
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: of doing whatever we have to do to best win

2079
01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 1: a football game, no matter the circumstance, right, So I

2080
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 1: tried to adhere to that by playing his players for

2081
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 1: pretty much the first half against the Dolphins in Week

2082
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: seventeen and then set some people down after that. Now

2083
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: there were some inactives, Yeah, Andre Roberts was inactive Week

2084
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: seventeen last year, and there were some others. I think

2085
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: Milano was down. I want to say, yeah, check, I think,

2086
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking that. I can't remember the specifics

2087
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: of the context of why I thought this, but looking

2088
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: at the inactives, watching the game play out and from

2089
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: the radio booth like I did, I thought they struck

2090
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 1: that balance really really well. They let Josh go out

2091
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 1: there and play, and then they put it in the

2092
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: hands of their defense to hold onto a big lead

2093
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 1: against you know what was the number one scoring off

2094
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: defense in the league, and then they gave when they

2095
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 1: got put those other guys in like they put the

2096
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: game in the hands of Isaiah McKenzie and Matt Barkley

2097
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 1: and Antonio Williams, Beasley, Taiwan Jones, Tredavius, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison,

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Speaker 1: all of them were inactive. Andre Roberts was active but

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01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: did not play well. There you go, think about so

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01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: and they put the game in the other guy's hands

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01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 1: with a lead, and they ran with it. They really

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01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: responded to it is hard balanced to strike. And this

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Speaker 1: this preseason thing coming up, it's going to be really

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how all the teams in the league,

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Speaker 1: what their philosophy is gonna because we all became so

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01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 1: well versed in the philosophy of you play the young

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Speaker 1: guys in week one, the young guys in week two.

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Speaker 1: You know, the veterans play one series in the first

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Speaker 1: preseason game, one series in the second preseason game, they

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01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 1: play all the way past halftime in the third preseason game,

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Speaker 1: and maybe a couple of snaps in the last preseason game.

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Speaker 1: That's that was. That's the chapter and verse of how

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Speaker 1: it was. Now you only have three preseason games, do

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01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: you play him in the last one? With still two

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01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 1: that regular two weeks before you're opener, or do you

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01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: play him in the second one and play him longer?

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01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: Or you know, how do you handle that? Do you

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01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 1: go month without without meaningful snaps? Almost three full weeks?

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Speaker 1: It's a long time, it is it? Unquestionably is that's

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Speaker 1: a good question. I don't know. We'll see how how

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01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 1: everybody you know chooses to treat that. But that's I

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01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: think it's a question we don't know yet the answer

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01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 1: to yet. And what's going to be the new norm

2124
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: for three preseason games? Last one on the tweet sheet,

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01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 1: Eric says it will take a repeat performance of last

2126
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 1: year and Mahomes, Brady and Rogers either having off seasons

2127
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: or being hurt. Bill's players always seem to be overlooked.

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01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're necessarily overlooked. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: didn't get four votes last year he finished second. Yeah,

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01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can call that overlooked. Here's

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01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: the thing, he's got to play. Let's let's be on it.

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01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: He's got to play well seventeen weeks, no question, and

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Speaker 1: I think he really has to play well in that

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01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 1: stretch of prime time games. The first two against Kansas City,

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01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee Thanksgiving week after Monday Night football and then the

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01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: four o'clock game against the Bucks against the Bucks when

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Speaker 1: he comes, if he goes down and lights it up

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01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: then in that game, yeah, then then the conversation's over

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01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if he's lightening it up like that now.

2140
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 1: But that all precludes some guy having a unicorn of

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01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: a season someplace else, like Aaron Rodgers, you know, and

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01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: that kind of blows the small market thing out of

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01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 1: the water too, by the way, but that guy's been

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Speaker 1: around sixteen years too, so he's he's established as an

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01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: MVP candidate every year. He's won it twice before last year.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, that's different. So if Josh gets to

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01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: that conversation, then we we'll all be happy. But right

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01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: now he's not. He doesn't get that same benefit of

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Speaker 1: the doubt. Maybe he will this year because he was

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Speaker 1: a runner up last year. Yeah yeah, maybe past past

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01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 1: consideration helps you the next time around, kind of like

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01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 1: those guys that have those breakout seasons and don't make

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01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, right and then the next year they do.

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01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it works the same way with MVP, provided you're

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Speaker 1: still at an MVP production level right the next year,

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Speaker 1: break time for us. Here Steve and I with a

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Speaker 1: little NFL true false when we come back, stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for that. Here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Here we are, final half hour

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and

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Speaker 1: it is that time in the show to play a

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Speaker 1: little NFL True Falls. Steve haven't done this in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Are you ready? Yeah? Where is NFL True Falls?

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Speaker 1: Presented by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artisan Cheese. Might have

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Speaker 1: to go pick up some pepper do Um. It's just

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02:00:55,320 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 1: fun to say what pepperd's to flavor flavored cheese they

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02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 1: have there at Yancy's Fancy's pretty good. Um, take your

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Speaker 1: word for it. Bring some in. I'll expect to I'll

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Speaker 1: see what I can do. NFL True Falls Number one,

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Speaker 1: Steve Xavian Howard is the NFL's best cornerback. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's this is strictly an opinion because there's no you know,

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Speaker 1: you can say stats and all that. Okay, here's what

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Speaker 1: I would say. When you think, okay, I'm gonna I

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Speaker 1: want a defensive back. I'm gonna start a defensive backfood

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Speaker 1: you have, you have your pick of any corners in

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Speaker 1: the league, who's the first one that you would want?

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Speaker 1: Xavian Howard is not the name I come up with.

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Speaker 1: It's not. No. I think it's guys like Jayden Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: I think I would like. Ramsey's pretty good. Howard proved

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Speaker 1: to be a very opportunistic corner last year. I think

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Speaker 1: he's the first corner in the league to have ten

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Speaker 1: interceptions in a season since two thousand and seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard. That's pretty damn good. And I would under

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Speaker 1: and I would say, why did he get so many targets? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean Byron Jones is on the other side, He's

2186
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 1: no slouch, but Byron Jones was in and out of

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Speaker 1: the lineup. I think, at least from what I heard,

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Speaker 1: what I've heard from some of the reporters down in

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Speaker 1: Miami that I know is Howard is very good at

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Speaker 1: bating quarterbacks, you know, making them think that the target

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Speaker 1: is open when he's really not. And then he's got

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Speaker 1: the athletic ability to close and close and react once

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Speaker 1: the quarterback makes the decision and make a play on

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Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, all right, Yeah, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good corners in the league. And he's good and there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I'm not saying he's not. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying he's unquestionably productive. Yeah, I'm just saying ten pickses,

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Speaker 1: that's nothing to sneeze. It's a hard conversation to have

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Speaker 1: because they'd got and who knows if he's going to

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Speaker 1: have that kind of year this year. And I still

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Speaker 1: like Gilmore a lot. You know. I know he's older now,

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Speaker 1: but that guy has been pretty locked down for a

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Speaker 1: long time. Nothing wrong with with Buffalo's cornerback one, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And he's in that conversation too. And I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things that sets Trey White apart is the

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Speaker 1: way that they use him. He's got a skill set

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Speaker 1: and they maximize it, you know, and that's what they

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Speaker 1: do it. He's one of the most consistent. Yeah, down

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Speaker 1: in and down out of corners I've seen a long time.

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Speaker 1: What I think, you're right, and I think they also.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way. That's why they love Levi

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Speaker 1: Wallace so much. Steady Eddie, Yes, unwavering, unwavering, and you

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02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:37,800
Speaker 1: get a guy like and I get it that he's

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Speaker 1: winning that cornerback battle. By the way, those that haven't

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Speaker 1: he they ain't getting him off the field that CB

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Speaker 1: two battle. He is out in front after Week one.

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Speaker 1: Things could change in the preseason because, yeah, I wonder

2218
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:52,360
Speaker 1: if Dane Jackson is more of a gamer than he

2219
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 1: is a practice player. Lights are on, he shows instincts

2220
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Speaker 1: and makes plays. We'll see if that continues in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: It's going to have to if he wants to see Levi.

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Speaker 1: The way things are going right now all about consistency

2223
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: all over the place. Davis is consistent, Levi Wallace is consistent.

2224
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: Poyer hide that just you can bank on him. It's

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Speaker 1: a font of consistency in the second Even if they're

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Speaker 1: never even if they're not spectacular enough for a lot

2227
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: of people, you know, they don't get a lot of turnovers, whatever, whatever,

2228
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 1: those guys aren't gonna get you killed. They're hard to beat.

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02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:29,120
Speaker 1: They're very consistent. You know where they're going to be.

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Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, I will say falls as well, because

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Speaker 1: there are other corners I like in the league better

2232
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 1: than Xavier Howard Um. He's up there though he's he's

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Speaker 1: top five. I'd probably put him top five just on

2234
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Speaker 1: production value. Alone, Um, but not the best. We move

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Speaker 1: on to NFL True Falls Number two. Steve Naji Harris

2236
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 1: is the top threat to Trevor Lawrence for twenty twenty

2237
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Speaker 1: one NFL Rookie of the Year. He's got a chance

2238
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Speaker 1: at it. I don't know that he will be. I'm

2239
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 1: thinking maybe it's a guy like Trey Lance or something

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Speaker 1: like that, another one of the other quarterback quarterbacks, UM,

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. I don't think there's enough around him yet. Um,

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Speaker 1: But certainly Trey Lawrence is the odds on favorite. Trey

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02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence Lay Lawrence the odds on favorite. But Trey Lance

2244
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 1: is a guy who plays the same position. And you

2245
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 1: know the rumblings coming out. It's are too early to

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Speaker 1: tell right now, But right now today I would say, yes,

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02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 1: you're probably right Najie Harris is. But if Trey Lance,

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02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:37,960
Speaker 1: if he continues to get better and what you hear

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02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:41,840
Speaker 1: about in San Francisco as he is, and Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: is just a guy like he has been. UM, if

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance gets on the field, he's the guy. But

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Speaker 1: Najie Harris is absolutely going to be on the field.

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02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:55,160
Speaker 1: So he's not convinced he's going to be terribly effective,

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02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: because I'm not. I don't have a lot of faith

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Speaker 1: in the guys in front of him, right right four

2256
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Speaker 1: a new offer defensive lineman, only one of any ilk

2257
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 1: who's you know, clearly proven in the league. And Trey Turner. Yeah,

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02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: he might have a lot of opportunities, but I don't

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02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: know he's gonna do a whole lot. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: say this, how good do they have to be to

2261
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Speaker 1: be better than last year's bunch? Well, okay, that year

2262
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:22,680
Speaker 1: that bunch last year was was dominant five years ago,

2263
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 1: and then in the course of the last five years,

2264
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Speaker 1: it all they got old and fell off and their

2265
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: their skills just weren't there. And so but I just

2266
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: think from a pure continuity standpoint, it's going to take

2267
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 1: him to seven games just to put it together, right.

2268
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 1: But they will be better at times when they you know,

2269
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:38,680
Speaker 1: when they start getting some reps under their belt, they'll

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Speaker 1: be better by default. So Najie Harris has got a chance.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'll say yes today, you know, in August, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Najia Harris is the top prospect to unsee Trevor Lawrence

2273
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: as Rookie of the Year. I'm going to say false,

2274
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 1: and my money is on Justin Fields for two reasons. One,

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02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: I think he has a good chance of unseating Andy

2276
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 1: Dalton sooner rather than later, maybe even sooner than Trey

2277
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 1: Lance can unsee Jimmy Garoppolo because with all the positive

2278
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 1: pub the Trey Lance is getting. John Lynch just said

2279
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 1: today Jimmy G's playing his best football in a forty

2280
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 1: nine Ers uniform. So Lance being there has elevated Garoppolo's play,

2281
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. I think Justin Fields could very

2282
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 1: well be on the field week one, and I think

2283
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 1: his skill set gives him the best chance to compete

2284
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, not to mention the fact he's playing

2285
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,840
Speaker 1: in a division where he gets to play Detroit twice

2286
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:45,920
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, for me, it's Justin Fields. So I

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02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: will say false on Naji Harris. All right, how do

2288
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Speaker 1: you think you think Fields can get on the field

2289
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:57,440
Speaker 1: week one, week one? Maybe the reason I think it's

2290
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: likely is not only because of his abilities, but also

2291
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: because Matt Nage and Ryan Pace. No, we gotta win

2292
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 1: this year or could be our next. I mean, there,

2293
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's a feed to the fire year for

2294
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 1: those guys, I get it, but you know, if you're

2295
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 1: gonna start a rookie quarterback, or is the bar lower

2296
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 1: for wins losses automatically? So that well it could be,

2297
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,280
Speaker 1: and that if that gives you a little more wiggle

2298
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:25,520
Speaker 1: room maybe as but head coach and GM I suppose right,

2299
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 1: because if and here's the thing, there's a many way

2300
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 1: you're going to the table with if you feel like

2301
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: your job's on the line, well, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: there's a many ways to slice this because if if

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02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: they say, well, you know, Trey Lance just isn't Trevor

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02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: Justin Fields isn't quite ready to get on the field.

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02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: You got the McCaskey family sitting over there. Why did

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02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 1: you pick this guy for? Why can't he get on

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02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 1: the Why can't he beat out Andy Dalton? That's all

2308
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:53,760
Speaker 1: the guy you drafted. You guys stink get out. You

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02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:56,840
Speaker 1: know there's that kind of mentality as well. Yeah, or

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02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 1: the mc caskey family just says, hey, by the way,

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02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, I know that Andy Daltons looked really good.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna play Justin Fields, thanks for stopping by, And

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Speaker 1: they go on like that, and then they could say, then, hey, Listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ready. We're gonna take it on

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02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 1: the chin. You're gonna cost me. This is gonna cost

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02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:15,360
Speaker 1: me your decision, gonna cost me my job. You know

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02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But that's the way. That's the

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02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 1: way it is at the upper echelans. I guess NFL

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Speaker 1: true false. Number three, the Jets are the most improved

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Speaker 1: team this offseason. False false. I think that's false. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they've done some nice things with their

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02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. They have becked it on the left, as

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02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 1: we know, their first round pick from last year. They

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02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker to play right guard, and they added

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02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses to play right tackle. Let's not forget that

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Speaker 1: they got some guys. I know. I think the team

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02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be way better than the WORR a year

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02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: goes to Jacksonville, Jaguarsh, it took my team. Jacksonville is

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02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 1: gonna be better. I think they could win seven games.

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02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 1: I think Urban Meyer is gonna gonna do some things.

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02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 1: I think they can beat Tennessee right now. I think

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02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: they can beat Houston. Wow. I think they can do

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02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 1: that because I don't think because I think Tennessee's gonna

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02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:09,760
Speaker 1: drop a little bit. I think they will come back

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02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 1: to the pack a little bit too. I agree, and

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02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they got it. I don't think they're

2337
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna beat Indianapolis no matter how. I don't say no

2338
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 1: matter who's playing quarterback. But within with with Carson Wentz out,

2339
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: it changes the conversation and the and the guard out. Um,

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02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 1: it gets tough in indian they're really good players. I

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02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 1: think I think Carson Wentz can still go. Um. So

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02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking, Yes, Jacksonville is a team. I think

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02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 1: that's probably improved the most because their quarterback is way

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02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 1: better than Zach Wilson. Hmm. Yeah, I say false here too.

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02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:54,960
Speaker 1: I like Jacksonville as a much improved team. You know,

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02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 1: I think it's also going to improve this year. I

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02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 1: think Cincinnati's gonna improve, not tremendously, maybe not to the

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02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: degree that Jacksonville does, but certainly more than the Jets. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Burrow with those weapons, um Riley Reeve's got

2350
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 1: to have a good year of tackle. If he does,

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02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think Cincinnati could be in the seven

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02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 1: eight win maybe even nine win range. You know, perhaps

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Speaker 1: I just think their division is too tough. Cleveland, Baltimore, Pittsburgh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati is gonna be the fourth in the division. Again.

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Speaker 1: They they'll probably at best they're gonna win two games

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02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 1: in that division and lose four. That's a that's a

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02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 1: rough stretch, im and that I'm trying to decide who

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02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna beat in their division, you know, just yeah,

2359
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:48,280
Speaker 1: you just think Pittsburgh. Maybe maybe that is NFL True

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Speaker 1: Falls presented by Nancy's Fancy Break Time for us. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, we'll find out what we have learned

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Speaker 1: from today's show Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Klota Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned?

2364
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Speaker 1: And the show brought to you by Skyworks, the official

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02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. And I

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Speaker 1: think we've learned that fans on the whole believe that

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02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,839
Speaker 1: Josh will have stats and the team who will have wins,

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02:12:29,560 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 1: and so the head to head matchups with Brady and

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02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:37,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes could be the topper to get Josh in the

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Speaker 1: front of the pack for league MVP. Yeah, it's gonna

2371
02:12:42,680 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 1: take a whatever mixture that looks like I'm the quarterback

2372
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Speaker 1: won't win the MVP without stats. If he's got statue,

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02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:53,840
Speaker 1: you'd think the winds come along and trail right behind

2374
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:56,960
Speaker 1: that as well. And when eyeballs are on him, when

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Speaker 1: people are on the fence about whether he's gonna win

2376
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Speaker 1: the MVP, they want him to play well against other

2377
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Speaker 1: guys that they know, like Mahomes and Brady. All of

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02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:06,120
Speaker 1: those things is going to be a mix. I think

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna put something in there that is at

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Speaker 1: the upmost of it, upper most of it, it's got

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Speaker 1: to be. I think it's gotta be wins. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: this team's win, and Josh's gonna be a big reason why,

2383
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: and that gets you a lot of attention. And it's

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Speaker 1: like kind of like the Heisman Trophy in the NCAA.

2385
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,280
Speaker 1: The best player on the best team that's a good

2386
02:13:28,280 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 1: shot at getting the Heisman. Closing strong helps also with

2387
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: the Heisman for sure. Little news out of Colts camp.

2388
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:38,840
Speaker 1: Frank Reich on NFL Network in an interview said that

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02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 1: the plan with Carson Wentz is rest after surgery for

2390
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 1: two weeks, then two weeks of rehab, and then week

2391
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:48,600
Speaker 1: five they see where he's at. That's why the front

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Speaker 1: end of the five to twelve week window is five weeks.

2393
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Speaker 1: I gotta hope for the best openers. Thirty nine days away.

2394
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's show more training camp coverage as the players are

2395
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 1: back on the field. Will have player interview us for you,

2396
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Speaker 1: along with Special teams coordinator Heath Farwell and Bill's reporter

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Speaker 1: Manny Glab expected to join us on the show. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you tomorrow at New