WEBVTT - A&G On Demand Thursday June 18 Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>Actually interesting. We're just talking about the state of California

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<v Speaker 1>might go all masks. The governor is considering a mask

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory for the whole state. Um uh, there towns in

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona that through this whole thing mass current required. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be required. And for the crowd out

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<v Speaker 1>there that refuses to our masks or feel it's like

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of attempt by the governor the government to

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<v Speaker 1>control you. I don't know how that's gonna go. We

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<v Speaker 1>just got this text after we were talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would quit my job if a mask were required

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<v Speaker 1>rather than wear I'm a mask. So we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be become more common as we get

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<v Speaker 1>further into the summer than it was two months ago

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<v Speaker 1>when we were all scared. What I'm just sick of

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<v Speaker 1>just conflict, people yelling at each other and tweeting in

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. I just have had enough, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how about a little agreement. I just wanna I think

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<v Speaker 1>the great question of history is what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out because this is all new. Um, when people say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough, I can't take it, that's too much, do

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<v Speaker 1>they just stop paying attention to stuff? And the forces

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<v Speaker 1>of evil roll over us, um the extremists, or do

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<v Speaker 1>we somehow get back some sense of normal? Yeah, interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we will off find. We will find out,

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<v Speaker 1>we will find going together. Speaking of conflict and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. You remember, Gone with the Wind removed

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<v Speaker 1>from HBO Max or whatever that streaming services because of

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<v Speaker 1>its racist portrayal. Blah blah blah. I'm increasingly thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>was a publicity stunt. But Variety, I've never seen Gone

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<v Speaker 1>with the Wind. I don't think. I have never seen

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<v Speaker 1>it end, and I've seen chunks of it here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I probably should I didn't realize it's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>grossing movie of all time adjusted for inflation. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. It had a couple of giant stars. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an epic, the rest of it. But I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. But variety, which is the Bible of Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any car chases and Gone with willyne carriage chase? Variety?

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<v Speaker 1>Where was the Bible? Is that? No? Not not the

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<v Speaker 1>literal Bible. It's the Bible of Hollywood. Is that? With

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<v Speaker 1>ten other problematic films that could use warning labels, don't

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<v Speaker 1>dare watch these films until we name them stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got a presidential election coming up. Interesting situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a nerd where the guy running against Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is leading in the polls without like having press conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>without going out and rallying, without really doing much um uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And there there's there's some belief. I think it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>true that they feel like the less he has seen,

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<v Speaker 1>the better for his candidacy. The Biden of two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>probably could beat Donald Trump in the election. Ken the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden of two thousand twenty. And if people don't see

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<v Speaker 1>them in their mind, they're thinking Joe Biden from years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they see him now, they think, oh jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not that Joe Biden I remember, or if they

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<v Speaker 1>hear him anyway, here's a little of him coming out

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday to speak to the world American. He's a president

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<v Speaker 1>who will do the work. I'm ready in day one

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<v Speaker 1>after more than three years in office. Why isn't Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump ready? Mr? President? Wake up, get to work. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so much more to be done. Thank you, Holy can't.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the visual on that, Sean? Have you seen it? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of holds, so he finishes. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you can be overstated that that was the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the speech. Right, It's supposed to be very clear when

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<v Speaker 1>you're done, and then if you're speaking in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a friendly crowd, that kind of clap. But he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of petered off there, thank you as he lifted up

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<v Speaker 1>his his notes and kind of signaled to the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>with that's it and started walking away, and then kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a slow clap started coming from the crowd. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just glad to hear he could lift his notes

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<v Speaker 1>because it sounded like, you know, he was too weak

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<v Speaker 1>actually get the air born. Nobody else could figure out

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<v Speaker 1>that was the end of the speech either until he

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<v Speaker 1>was leaving the podium. I didn't hear a goose. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. That's a step forward. You know what they

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<v Speaker 1>are winnow and they're they're yeah, exactly, they're sharpening their game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this earlier this morning, and I particularly we

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<v Speaker 1>particularly liked this little ending part thank you. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the weakest thank you I've ever heard. I am serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that, and I have this animal reaction that

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<v Speaker 1>that is one of my species about to die. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a concerned I think, oh, he does not sound good.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably got to gather the family. I'm serious, he sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a different part of the speech on NPR.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they weren't gonna highlight that, but I heard a

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<v Speaker 1>different partner speech on NPR, and um uh, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he must have a cold or something because he sounds ill,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds sick like his voice is a little more or

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<v Speaker 1>off for a little more air than usual. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>was talking earlier of a previous political thank you that

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<v Speaker 1>had current, that had help until that time held the

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<v Speaker 1>belt for weakest thank you? Um do we want to

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<v Speaker 1>compare Joe's with us today? Joe? Where are you? Where

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<v Speaker 1>is Joe? Joe here with us today? Joe? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were here today. All right, well you're all Joe

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<v Speaker 1>the blammer, So I'll have your stand up and say

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you. Oh boy, that went poorly. That was more.

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<v Speaker 1>That was more emotional death than physical. Oh you think

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<v Speaker 1>he was was embarrassed and piste off at his staffers

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<v Speaker 1>or just realized I'm not gonna win. I'm I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be president. That's what that thank you was. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an emotional Physically he's still you know he was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the will to live as opposed to his

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<v Speaker 1>life force, which is Biden's that was the election. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>get enough. There's a lot of political speech that's crap,

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<v Speaker 1>and it appeals to the emotions and it's it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm much more into policy than falling in love with

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<v Speaker 1>a candidate. On the other hand, and stylistic flourishes, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, if Joe Biden had said those

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<v Speaker 1>same words in a voice that suggested, did I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be dead tomorrow, in a voice that suggested

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<v Speaker 1>I have energy, I'm intent, I'm serious about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr President. After three years, you're still not ready. There's

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<v Speaker 1>work to be done. Get to work. Thank you, We

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<v Speaker 1>thanks everybody, thank you. But no, he sounds like he's dying.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I think is the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>would explain it would be if you're right that there

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<v Speaker 1>they're feeling is we need to be really calm and

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<v Speaker 1>steady as just the polar opposite of of frenetic craziness.

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<v Speaker 1>We can bore the electorate in our way to the

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<v Speaker 1>White House. And maybe he just overdid it, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about he was sick. He had a throat

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<v Speaker 1>thing going and he was going for quiet, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just choked off completely. You know, sometimes you're worn out.

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<v Speaker 1>We we did uh we didn't add or something a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months back and then the hands in, our

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<v Speaker 1>executive producer, brought it to us and said, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>air this. You want to take a look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he played it back force and it was

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<v Speaker 1>real a low energy. It was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we're both tired or distracted or whatever, but it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>come to Jones plymouth or whatever is and and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe he wouldn't buy a plymouth from from

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<v Speaker 1>Jones with your money. Maybe he was just in one

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<v Speaker 1>of those moods. But because it can happen to anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're where we're robusters can be. I can live

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred pounds clear over my head, um, not even

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<v Speaker 1>break a sweat. Uh Yeah, but that's that's that's troubling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's troubling. I'm telling you what. If I'm the Trump campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a hold of that, man, I'm running that

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<v Speaker 1>all over and over. And we mock regularly the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of veep steaks, which is always overblown. Who gets

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to be the vice president? Who freaking cares, and

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<v Speaker 1>then then that it has almost no effect on anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>a three point bumping his whole state of New Hamps.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never known a single person that votes for the

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<v Speaker 1>president based on who their vice presidential choices could be.

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<v Speaker 1>The exceptions could be the exception if you think one,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way he does two terms, and two I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he can last four years. His personal physician

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<v Speaker 1>has declared him, oh fittig one foot in the grave.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want yeah, yeah, the vat matters. Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>He does not sound like a man who will be

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<v Speaker 1>alive in four years. I don't want to get too dark.

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<v Speaker 1>But if me neither. If that's if that's Grandpa saying

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<v Speaker 1>albeit at your graduation in the spring, and he sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you think, I hope so right right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not dark. That's just human concern. Yeah, wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, wake up, thank you. I'm telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>has an emotional reaction. It causes It causes me to think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's blacks a little bozzas say, so you should

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<v Speaker 1>you should? You can't watch Gone with the Wind on

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<v Speaker 1>one streaming service that I think was going for a

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<v Speaker 1>policy and I think it's back up now with the

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<v Speaker 1>disclaimer at all. My God, slaves aren't actually happy being slaves.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for watching, Honey, did you hear about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out there unhappy? Ten other problematic films that could

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<v Speaker 1>use a warning label Stay with us The Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Jetty Show. I'm the Scared of the Virus guy now,

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<v Speaker 1>I and just I think looking at this, Florida has

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<v Speaker 1>all the markings can become next coronavirus epicenter? What's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in Arizona? About it? And I've heard so many predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wait till two weeks from now. I'm often

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen. Sometimes it doesn't. I hope I'm wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be wrong deeply. Mm hmm. Also here's

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<v Speaker 1>your headline. Judge rules in favor of squatter illegally occupying house.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like your head to explode, stay tuned for that,

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<v Speaker 1>sorrow boy, the more laws, the less justice. You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Who said that? Do you tell me? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember John Wayne's exactly John Wayne and Mark Twain or

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<v Speaker 1>Liel Wayne, Bruce Wayne. I can't remember Alex Baldiley. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>it may have been Plato. One more headline. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned while that. There's one more headline, folks, Marcus Cerrio,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Sirius Cicero. That goes back to Cicero. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>more laws, the less justice. Wow, that's really interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the government governs best, which governs the least. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have had two percent of the laws we have in

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<v Speaker 1>modern society. Um, top that shot the dude in the

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<v Speaker 1>back and Atlanta the parking lot at the Wendy's eleven

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<v Speaker 1>counts could face the death penalty and the charges yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where that is. Yep, I maintained they are

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<v Speaker 1>overcharging him to keep calm in the streets, relative calm,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will see some of those charges fall away

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming weeks. But we'll we'll find out. So this, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the folks at Variety are writing about Gone with the

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<v Speaker 1>Wind getting yank from the HBO service, so you would

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<v Speaker 1>hear that the HBO service exists, in my opinion, And

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<v Speaker 1>they go into other films that are racist of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Birth of a Nation, Song of the South, but the

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<v Speaker 1>range of problematic films is wide, including Breakfast at Tiffany's.

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<v Speaker 1>Mackey really stereotyped role as a Japanese man is appalling

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<v Speaker 1>there right West Side Story, Puerto Ricans are almost only

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<v Speaker 1>shown as gang members. Now, Birth of a Nation. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody that doesn't watch that at this point, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a drama, historical artifice, right, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's something you're it's a look at a

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<v Speaker 1>different time, right, And and racism in the same way. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch what's the Lenny Reef install, the movie about

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler's eyes Um Triumph of the Will. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch that thinking, Hey, I heard it's a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>about Germany. No, everybody knows what it is. Moving along

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen you seen Breakfast at Tiffany's and Mickey Rooney's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible, it's pretty over the top. But so what

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<v Speaker 1>But what are they claiming it should come with? Because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great movie, Breakfast Tiffany. I like watching the

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<v Speaker 1>westerns from like the forties, fifties, sixties where all the

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<v Speaker 1>Indians were just Italian guys or somewhat olive skin. But

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<v Speaker 1>are they talking about pulling Breakfast with Tiffany's? Well, no problematic, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you and how about if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start putting disclaimers on Gone with the Wind. Here's some

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<v Speaker 1>other movies that might deserve disclaimers. Exact, the disclaimers say,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Rooney has a crazy racist role as a Japanese guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't approve and it here's the movie. How

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<v Speaker 1>about seventy five slave owner drama Man Dingo jaw dropping

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently aimed at a KKK demographic, writes Variety dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, but those are not even the ten films

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be presented with disclaimers and discussions before

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<v Speaker 1>and after a screening. Oh, that's gonna make movie watching fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and many of these movies are completely iconic ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty Harry, I've seen it multiple times. Remember started a

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<v Speaker 1>craze for movies about Maverick cops who get the job

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<v Speaker 1>done followed by their following their instincts rather than the law. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they say it's a problem from a cops standpoint, them

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<v Speaker 1>liberal judges and do gooders, and the villain claims police brutality,

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<v Speaker 1>planting the seed that other such charges are fake moves

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<v Speaker 1>to get sympathy. Yeah, it's interesting those movies, the Dirty

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<v Speaker 1>Harry movies, and what was the Charles Bronson version. He

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<v Speaker 1>was always taking vengeance on something that somebody murdered his daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he was going out anyway. Those were very

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<v Speaker 1>popular when crime was at its height in America, when

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<v Speaker 1>crime was out of control in big cities, those movies

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<v Speaker 1>were popular. It gave people a sense of control. Will

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<v Speaker 1>we uh have that disclaimer? Before the movie, liberal policies

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<v Speaker 1>led to an enormous explosion in crime. People were scared legitimately,

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<v Speaker 1>and so fantasies about you know, vigilantes who are popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're not gonna hear that Forrest Gump. The film

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<v Speaker 1>is condescending to anyone with a disability and people with aids,

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<v Speaker 1>among others. All right, that's dumb all the way around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually hostile the protesters, activists in counterculture. And the

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<v Speaker 1>lovable title character's name is full name, Nathan Bedford Forrest

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<v Speaker 1>named after his grandfather, first grand wizard of the clan.

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<v Speaker 1>And you like that. Also a Confederate general um that

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<v Speaker 1>one is stupid, and that one is that the other ones. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that one's just stupid. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom,

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<v Speaker 1>the exotic villains are portrayed as primitive and bloodthirsty four runners,

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<v Speaker 1>resulting in negative and stereotypical depictions of India and of

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<v Speaker 1>Hindu customs. Or is this serious list? Or is this serious?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't telle Once upon a Time in Hollywood controversial

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<v Speaker 1>depiction of of Bruce Lee. Black people seem non existent,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexicans as they're called, their car valets and waitresses,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charles Manson's white supremacist agenda is ignored because he

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<v Speaker 1>was completely psychotic. It's also not a factual movie. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's problematic. The Searchers John Wayne plays a Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War veteran on the Confederate side who goes on a

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<v Speaker 1>five year searcher's niece who was kidnapped by the Comanches.

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne's character is an unapologetic racist who sees all Native

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<v Speaker 1>Americans as less than human, et cetera, etcetera. Right the

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<v Speaker 1>Silence of the Lambs. If we go down this road,

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<v Speaker 1>we will eliminate a great portion of books and movies

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<v Speaker 1>that are part of the greatest stuff ever made. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the Silence of the Lands Clarice is that

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<v Speaker 1>it depicts the criminals transgender identification as part of his

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness, shows him putting on women's makeup, tucking his

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<v Speaker 1>mail jet way. I wish I could tug mine away.

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<v Speaker 1>They never do me any not my problem. He plays

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<v Speaker 1>with his poodle and dances with himself. Problematic. We need

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<v Speaker 1>a disclaimer. We got more of these. There may be

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite movies. Stupid Jennifer Lawrence has broken Twitter silence.

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<v Speaker 1>We've created a new public Twitter accounts to comment on

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<v Speaker 1>racial injustice. Will be monitoring your Twitter account all day

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<v Speaker 1>long to see what the young actress, the twentysomething actress

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<v Speaker 1>has to say. There is not a microns earth powerful

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<v Speaker 1>enough to find him. Give a damn. I know it's something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something. It's something that they announce it with the

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<v Speaker 1>assumption that a lot of people care, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>news media repeats it is if there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that I find that interesting. Well, Jackie takes

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds? Does it take all kinds? I find myself

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<v Speaker 1>wondering this. It probably takes several kinds to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>world turning. It doesn't take all kinds. There are several kinds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think ought to go, oh, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tease this Albuquerque, what how do I personalities? Obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>you know how the town of Albuquerque New Mexico's largest city,

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<v Speaker 1>is UH dealing with calls to defund the police. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good idea that I could easily see becoming the model

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<v Speaker 1>UH in a lot of places around a Mary talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that coming. Alburquerque famously liberal. Everybody knows as Albuquerque goes,

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<v Speaker 1>so does the rest of the country. What's common? What?

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<v Speaker 1>A Colorado Springs man who lived in a dead woman's

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<v Speaker 1>house and used her car for months after she passed

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<v Speaker 1>away is causing more trouble for the victims family. The

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<v Speaker 1>man by the name of Jack Cole. There's a series

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<v Speaker 1>of reports looking into alleged squatting cases in Colorado. This

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<v Speaker 1>news station is doing. More than two years after Cole

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<v Speaker 1>was evicted by the courts, he's filed a lawsuit against

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<v Speaker 1>the dead woman's family for more than a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars. In a bombshell discovery, News five has

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<v Speaker 1>learned in El Paso County judge has ruled in his favor.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a twist, So don't let your head explode yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But so he heard the woman died and then went

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<v Speaker 1>into her house. Is that what happened? No, No, it

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<v Speaker 1>explains that in a little bit. But she passed in

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of squatters took over her house and um

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<v Speaker 1>A coal is certain currently serving time behind bars at

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<v Speaker 1>the Crowley County Correctional Facility on an unrelated sexual assault case.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though he's locked up, that hasn't stopped him from

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<v Speaker 1>filing numerous lawsuits, including one against the Clark family for

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<v Speaker 1>more than four hundred thousand dollars. In a jaw dropping decision,

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<v Speaker 1>a judge ruled in his favor. However, this news station

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<v Speaker 1>did an investigation review the court records. Um it shows

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<v Speaker 1>that Cold One is cased by falsifying records, records that

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<v Speaker 1>looked really legitimate. They fooled the court and they'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>get reversed. But those familiar with cold says is the

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<v Speaker 1>type of criminal just won't go away. He's a liar

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to live through this, said one of

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<v Speaker 1>his victims. It's just not right. Um So she lost

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter in October. The woman passed away. If the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of a loved one wasn't enough grief, she met

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<v Speaker 1>with a surprise when she went to Wendy's Colorado Springs

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<v Speaker 1>home to gather her belongings. Jerry said there were random

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<v Speaker 1>people living in sign whom she had never met for months.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this. Now it's your family's property. Your family

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<v Speaker 1>member passes away, you show up, somebody's invaded that home.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume I call the cops and they're out

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen minutes. Four months, Jerry fought with the court

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<v Speaker 1>system to get the squatters out, all while this cold

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<v Speaker 1>character and his friends taunted the family at Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 1>They even put up her decorations talking about pain. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally in tween so it took about a year, but

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<v Speaker 1>very tempting to try to find a certain crowd of

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<v Speaker 1>people then for cash would get those people out of there. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely tempting. The only thing that would stop you from

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<v Speaker 1>doing it is realizing how twisted our court system and

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<v Speaker 1>laws have been. And you'd think I can't even ask

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<v Speaker 1>them to leave, much less you know something more extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next year they finally ordered the squatters to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Posession of the home was returned to Wendy's family. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it was destroyed by the squatters. What it's pathetic, Jerry said,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely pathetic. We told the police we needed help. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>could help us because it was a civil case. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do anything. What is wrong with our system. God

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<v Speaker 1>dang it, how is occupying property a civil case? If

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like that ever happened in your life and you

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<v Speaker 1>were dealing with it all the time, obviously alongside the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life, job, kids, health, everything else, you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with this all the time, God dang it, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be maddening. This News five, By the way, good

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<v Speaker 1>for them. They did multiple stories on alleged squatting situations,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually forced lawmakers to pass legislation expert adding court proceedings

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<v Speaker 1>to get unauthorized documents out of homes. Um, that's most

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<v Speaker 1>of what I know about this is the same as

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Is that movie Pacific Heights with

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Keaton when they couldn't get him out of that

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<v Speaker 1>that house in San Francisco. Yeah, and the law kept

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<v Speaker 1>saying aneling NewBoy. Fast forward to today, Wendy's family is

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with another nightmare in the form of a lawsuit. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy's sister, the deceased woman's sister, is one of three defendants.

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<v Speaker 1>This cold guy is suing seeking more than four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in damages, And so you've got to defend

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<v Speaker 1>against a lawsuit which means you I got to hire

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer and spend all sorts of money and time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a long time convicted felon, does not have legal counsel.

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<v Speaker 1>But that didn't prevent him from winning his case. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably going to get overturned. But um, can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine I went to get my mail and had a

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<v Speaker 1>letter from the El Paso County Court that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a default judgment entered against me. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lawsuit I was involved in. I never

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<v Speaker 1>got served paperwork, so I had no knowledge this was

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<v Speaker 1>happening whatsoever. She just got hit with the judgment by

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<v Speaker 1>the county. Unfreaking believable. You know, life, liberty, and property

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<v Speaker 1>is are the sacred right that this country was founded on.

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<v Speaker 1>The founding fathers change the phrase property to pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>But what they meant and read, um, read any one

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<v Speaker 1>of Tim sander F's great books, The Right to earn

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<v Speaker 1>a living for instance, Um, the pursuit of happiness was

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<v Speaker 1>a phrase that meant the pursuit of economic achievement, making money,

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<v Speaker 1>getting property, et cetera. They thought property was a little

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<v Speaker 1>narrow because you know, you have a right for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>to sell. If you have a horse, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>right to sell the horse to somebody who has money,

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<v Speaker 1>and so life, liberty, and property are the founding principles.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea that you could find scumbags occupying your

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<v Speaker 1>house and they wouldn't be dragged out of there two

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<v Speaker 1>hours later just absolutely disgusts me. You hate to be disgusted. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we need transition music, Michael, come on, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing in there? Wow? Kid, you do We gotta beg

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<v Speaker 1>you for you cork com free. They'll not keep yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at Michael. What I'm gonna cheery mood? Now, come on

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<v Speaker 1>singing with me? Just when you no not So, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people saying to fund the police doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean getting rid of the police, And then sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>ask other people and they say, that's exactly what you mean. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a funny clip I saw Geese. I should have

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<v Speaker 1>figured out where it was. Katie turn and MSNBC interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>somebody somewhere about the whole the fund the police thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is last week and she said, let's just for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, get it out there. When when people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about defund the police, you don't mean getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the police, and he said, that's exactly what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and er, um, well, that's that's a lot like Black

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<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter. People are in support of the phrase, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people think they're in part of the organization but

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea the full panoply of what the organization wants,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they knew that, they'd be gainst it, but

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<v Speaker 1>they'd still be up with the sentiment, or I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>down with the sentiment, as the kids say. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>become a take a seriously not literally thing, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funny obviously, since that's what the Trump crowd

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<v Speaker 1>says about Trump. Um uh, the people don't mean we

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to fund the police, because if you pull

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<v Speaker 1>cutting money to police departments, fient approval to fund the

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<v Speaker 1>police does better. Because there's a certain crowd that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually mean to fund the police. They just mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fix the police department, Sure, fix policing in America, that

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<v Speaker 1>say most Americans and most cops. Yeah, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing in Albuquerque. And I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to become popular a lot of places,

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<v Speaker 1>and different versions of it. Calls to to fund the

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<v Speaker 1>police are being heard in New Mexico's largest city of Albuquerque,

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<v Speaker 1>where the mayor Tim Keller announced plans to create a

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<v Speaker 1>first of its kind unarmed public safety force. The Albuquerque

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<v Speaker 1>Community Safety Department will serve alongside the Albuquerque Police Department,

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<v Speaker 1>but be made up of unarmed social workers who are

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<v Speaker 1>trained in dealing with homelessness, mental health, non violent emergencies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something the police all of our country have

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<v Speaker 1>been asking for for a long time. Yeah, let's try it.

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<v Speaker 1>The new force will give dispatchers a third option besides

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<v Speaker 1>police or fire fighters, to de escalate certain situations. You

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<v Speaker 1>send somebody is an expert in mental health and homelessness

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<v Speaker 1>to go over and deal with that situation over there,

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<v Speaker 1>Cops or firefighters who aren't trained to deal with either

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things just blasted with a hose. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a firefighter, why do you have your axe out?

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Why are you knocking down my tent? I'm a firefighter.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't what I'm always supposed to do. I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always thought it funny that they have to throw

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<v Speaker 1>on their full gear on calls, including medical calls. What

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<v Speaker 1>if in case there's a spontaneous combustion, which based on

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<v Speaker 1>our writing with various fire departments. There's way more of

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<v Speaker 1>that than there is into a fire. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>they really firemen or firefighters is I mean, they do that, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not most of what they do. Funding for

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<v Speaker 1>the new department would come from shifting resources away from

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<v Speaker 1>five other departments, including the police, Fire and Transit department.

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<v Speaker 1>So you'd be in effect defunding police, fire, and transit

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<v Speaker 1>departments to have some money to spend on these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>If we can be grown ups and talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>this way. Um, So there you go. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>will catch on all across the country. And I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've said several times over the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>some people see this as conservatives getting things done that

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to get done with AOC leading the way

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>or other lefties. Right right politics is so odd because

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<v Speaker 1>the sadest psycho kneeling on poor George Floyd's neck, Um

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with police responding to mental health calls.

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>The other has anything to do with chokeholds. Right right,

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<v Speaker 1>Um doesn't not anything to do with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things, but right, it has to do with getting

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<v Speaker 1>psychos off police forces. Um. But It's led to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more. We do it all the time. We passed

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<v Speaker 1>gun laws or various rules after a school shooting that

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<v Speaker 1>would have not affected that particular shooting. Yeah, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like we're doing something. People don't want to feel powerless.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing is going to bring up. What would Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden say at this moment? That's what I'm wanting you,

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<v Speaker 1>Holy cow, somebody check on him. So send the firefighters

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Biden's house. I think he's dying. They ought

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<v Speaker 1>to call firefighters first aiders. I wonder if it just

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<v Speaker 1>um doesn't get you as much support politically. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they've always been firefighters. Their duties have grown through

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<v Speaker 1>the years. I mean back in the day, if you're sick,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd call your doctor, he'd come to your house. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you call the fire department. Would have been something, oh yeah,

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>good time. Yeah yeah, I like my doctor too, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy. The most popular article in the New

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>York Times I regularly checked that column. Most popit articles

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<v Speaker 1>usually the ones people are reading and tweeting around. The

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<v Speaker 1>most number one right now is when I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday flushing the toilet flings, Corona aerosol all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>You're shedding the virus. You're going to say a different word.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You're listening on a radio and went under a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>and things. You have a little fuzzy that was again

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<v Speaker 1>that word was, uh, what you call the softy shedding. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're shedding the virus when you do your thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and then when you flush the toilet, it

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>sends the germs up in the air. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad way. Probably just don't care. So public restrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I should throw my mask on before I

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<v Speaker 1>go in the restroom over here where there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Have been people in there, standing there, breathing,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>flushing toilets, etcetera. That's probably not probably guaranteed. That's the

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>most dangerous place in this buildings. The second I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start going in the woods like a bear. It seems

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>like a sensible bear in the woods. Seat. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that much about bear epidemiology. Thank you for asking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the question. Um Our text line is four one

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<v Speaker 1>five to nine five k FTC. What do we want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about coming up? You know, we could get

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<v Speaker 1>into the game and transgender ruling the Supreme Court just

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<v Speaker 1>on leave. There are a lot of folks who, with

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<v Speaker 1>all due love and respect for Neil Corsets, you're saying, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>he got this one totally wrong. And and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm against that. I think he's wrong, but his

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>reasoning doesn't hold on. Yeah, I've I've read, I've read

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of columns on that. People are saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>a major deal, and I guess I just don't get it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll get it more when Joe, who almost went

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<v Speaker 1>the loss, no came super close, explains it to us

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<v Speaker 1>coming up the Armstrong and Jetty Show. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>read a couple of articles, seen some people say that ruling,

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court ruling, the other day rulings, there were

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<v Speaker 1>a number of them. The guns stuff was a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal that they chose not to take up. And then this, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the the immunity, the conditional conditional immunity, qualified immunity, that's it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't take that interview on that. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>I could remember? But then the whole gay transgender stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I didn't fully appreciate what a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>this was. Yeah, essentially, I mean, really really really boiled

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<v Speaker 1>down you can't be fired because you're gay or transgender.

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<v Speaker 1>Trans enter and Neil Gorstch surprised a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>by writing not only agreeing with the liberals on the bench,

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<v Speaker 1>but writing the decision. I didn't know you could fire

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<v Speaker 1>somebody prior to that for being gay or transgender. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, putting aside that basic question. A lot

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of people are really critical of gorse such as uh

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<v Speaker 1>logic in the decision. And I'm gonna have to rush

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on this. Um Title seven was passed

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<v Speaker 1>a number of years ago. It's been interpreted by the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you can't discriminate against people for several reasons, race, religion,

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<v Speaker 1>and sex. And and Gorsetch is arguing that because sexual

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<v Speaker 1>orientation and identity is tied up in sex, that that

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<v Speaker 1>that counts. And this, uh, this was written by Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson Guests who is a constitutional lawyer and wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of the Court brief on this case and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I found this really compelling stuff. But um Gorstch

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<v Speaker 1>argues that whenever say is a butt four cause of

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<v Speaker 1>negative employment decisions, sex discrimination has occurred, He writes, if

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<v Speaker 1>the employer intentionally relies in part on an individual employees

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<v Speaker 1>sex when deciding to discharge the employee, or if changing it.

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<v Speaker 1>To put it differently, if changing the employee sex would

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<v Speaker 1>have yielded a different choice by the employer, a statutory

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>violation has occurred. Um. One example was, sean is allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to date Chicks's not able, but allow if you change

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<v Speaker 1>sean sex to woman, a woman is not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>date chicks, which is the same thing because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have no lesbians around here, actually do and nobody cares.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, that's that's what gorse. It's just saying to

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<v Speaker 1>change the sex and the same activity is okay. Another

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<v Speaker 1>Gorsets example taking employer of fires a transgender person who

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<v Speaker 1>has identified as male at birth but who now identifies

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<v Speaker 1>as female. If the employer your retains an otherwise identical

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<v Speaker 1>employee who has identified as female at birth, the employer

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally penalizes a person identified as male at birth for

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<v Speaker 1>traits or actions that it tolerates in an employee identified

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<v Speaker 1>as a female at birth. So somebody acting like a

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<v Speaker 1>female is fine if it's a female, but not if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a male as sex discrimination. But under the Gorsete test,

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<v Speaker 1>what is acting like a female? You know? What I

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<v Speaker 1>mean dressing moody? Oh boy, what else you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say out there on your island? Hey, hey, down in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole, here's a newer, better shovel. What Ryan guest

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to right is under the Gorsete test. If

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<v Speaker 1>changing the plane if sex would change the outcome, sex

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<v Speaker 1>discrimination is taking place. Suppose a female lifeguard is fired

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<v Speaker 1>because she wears a swimsuit bottom but not a top.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt changing the employee sex would have yielded a

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<v Speaker 1>different choice by the employer. Uh. That male and female

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<v Speaker 1>bodies differ and thus required different swimsuits to prevent exposure

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't amount to discrimination unless one embraces a simplistic theory. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, nothing hinges on whether this lifeguard currently

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<v Speaker 1>identifies as a man or a woman. Consider another example.

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<v Speaker 1>Suppose a male employee at a fitness center repeatedly goes

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<v Speaker 1>into the women's locker room and is fired. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>true that changing the employee sex would have yielded a

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<v Speaker 1>different choice is that's a quote from Gorsage, But the

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<v Speaker 1>negative treatment the employee faced was not sex discrimination. Providing

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<v Speaker 1>the employer and posed no double standard for men and

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<v Speaker 1>women because each are prevented from entering the opposite sexes

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<v Speaker 1>private space. Um And yet with Gorsages opinion, the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court has embraced the theory of sex discrimination that prevents

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<v Speaker 1>employers and schools from keeping males out of female only spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>or either that or it believes only males with transgender

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<v Speaker 1>status have the privilege of entering female only spaces, and

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<v Speaker 1>Gorsages theory does not test for sex discrimination. Essentially, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too simplistic. It doesn't it doesn't account for This is negative.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a double standard. This hurts you because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a double standard. It's just the existence of the double

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<v Speaker 1>standard alone. Is is evidence that that it's wrong. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having to cut this short because we're out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I agree. I think this is this is wacky

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna lead to some some rough stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>may may probably be overturned.