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Speaker 3: Day Floria, Monday, November twelfth. The year is twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: It's episode one seventy nine of the Anakin Florian podcast

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Speaker 3: Can Flow. If you're watching on video? Is not in

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Speaker 4: I believe? Is that right?

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Speaker 5: I am?

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Speaker 6: I'm in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 5: I'm at Aha, my parents' place over here, visiting family,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, good to be back.

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Speaker 6: A little colder than La.

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Speaker 3: Over here, though, Yeah, New Hampshire's about as cold cold

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Speaker 3: as it gets. But the Doctor Florey and your father's

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Speaker 3: not afraid. His WiFi is holding up pretty well, so

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna send him a huge thank you on Twitter

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Speaker 3: if the Wi Fi holds up over the course of

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Speaker 3: the show. Thanks for the baby advice over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you know, you would think, as a

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Speaker 3: father of three who entered fatherhood in twenty eleven, that

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be leaning on my man can Flow and

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Speaker 3: his lovely life by Clark when I need, you know,

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Speaker 3: baby advice when I'm in a rut.

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Speaker 4: But who am I texting.

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Speaker 3: I'm texting you and you guys rescued me this weekend,

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that you come to us for advice and

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Speaker 5: any time man hopefully that helps.

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Speaker 3: And even if we're not giving him organic avocado, even

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Speaker 3: if it's just the regular stuff, No, I'm just kidding, Well,

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Speaker 3: we'll fire the first stuff. The first stuff will be organic,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not going to say that he's going to

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Speaker 3: be eating organic avocado for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 3: So this is our one hundred and seventy nine show,

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Speaker 3: and as many of you know, Ray Longo has been

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Speaker 3: with us since the first episode.

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Speaker 4: What a great call that was.

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Speaker 3: Whoever's call that was to pick Ray Longo as our

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Speaker 3: weekly guests to be the coach.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who that was.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately, though Longo's mom passed away on Saturday. I

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Speaker 3: just found out a couple hours ago, so he won't

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Speaker 3: be with us today. He does want you all to

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Speaker 3: know he's doing well and that she did go peacefully

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Speaker 3: with everyone by her side. But tough stuff for Ray

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Speaker 3: and of course his family over the next several days,

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Speaker 3: and we're thinking about them. But Ray will be back

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Speaker 3: next week. He won't be with us today. UFC Heavyweight

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Speaker 3: Champion Light Heavyweight Champion Daniel Cormier scheduled to join us.

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Speaker 3: We will certainly get to the Denver stuff you got

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Speaker 3: Ken Flow's picks coming up on UFC at Argentina. By

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Speaker 3: the way, Flow, do you know how to pronounce the

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Speaker 3: capital city in Argentina because if you don't know right now,

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Speaker 3: by the end of the program, we will have that

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Speaker 3: for you as well. I'm not calling the fights in Argentina,

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Speaker 3: but I felt like for our audience I should pronounce

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Speaker 3: Buenos and whatever comes next correctly. I mean, do you

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Speaker 3: want to do you want to venture a guest right now?

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Speaker 3: You're pretty cultured, worldly guy, or do you want to wait?

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Speaker 3: Fucking nailed it with the goddamn inflection, with the right pronunciation.

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Speaker 4: You know, unbelievable, this guy.

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Speaker 3: You know what, We're gonna give you two extra points

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Speaker 3: in the main event challenge for nailing that without practice today.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how you do with the five picks though

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Speaker 3: later today. But you absolutely nailed the pronunciation our lead today.

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Speaker 4: So TJ.

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Speaker 3: Dillashaw and Henry Sahudo are going to fight for the

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Speaker 3: UFC Flyway Championship in Anahan. That was going to lead

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Speaker 3: the show, as I wrote on Twitter, unless something crazy

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Speaker 4: Ya?

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Speaker 3: You're Rodriguez the no look up elbow at the gun

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Speaker 3: Sung Jung out cold, one of the greatest knockouts most of.

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Speaker 5: As far as the finish, it was absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 6: It was perfect timing.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was overall a much more mature Yeahyu Rodriguez,

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Speaker 5: much more calculated in his approach. He was mixing in elbows,

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Speaker 5: Korean Zombie did. And we know how tough and how

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Speaker 5: great of a chin Korean Zom has, and the fact

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Speaker 5: when you factor into just how great that fight was,

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Speaker 5: that will go down as an absolute classic.

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Speaker 3: And we'll attempt to put the knockout into context in

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Speaker 3: but at least for some people, that's a fun conversation.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of this fight, Kenny and there are

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if the Korean Zombie thought he was

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts on the fight as a whole, the Korean Zombie,

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Speaker 5: Well, it was certainly close, and I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: from Korean Zombie. And I agree that he was probably

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Speaker 5: but he was in that danger zone repeatedly. And we

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Speaker 5: know Korean Zombie is absolutely fearless in his approach towards fighting.

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Speaker 5: He's very aggressive, doesn't really gauge the distance so much.

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Speaker 5: He's just trying to hit the target as much as possible.

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Speaker 5: And you know what if he gets hit in the process, Okay,

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Speaker 5: And there's a reason why they call him the Korean Zombie.

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Speaker 5: And he continued to pressure Yaya Rodriguez, and he did

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Speaker 5: you're taking this fight on short notice. I thought it

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Speaker 5: And you really couldn't see much rust off of Korean Zombie,

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Speaker 5: that's why he's such a fan favorite. He was landing

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Speaker 6: He was doing some funk roles. He was, you know,

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Speaker 5: I thought that was really impressive. And man, just an

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Speaker 5: unbelievable fight.

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Speaker 3: These are two certifiable featherweight contenders. No matter who ended

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Speaker 3: like both of them, Kenny, are just gonna knock a

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Speaker 3: But Kenny, I feel like these guys are gonna finish

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Speaker 3: They just happened to find an opponent this weekend who

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Speaker 6: Had well without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: Yeahyer might be the next big thing, and there's other

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Speaker 5: In this fight, I really liked his approach. He was

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Speaker 5: the Korean Zombie. But I like the way he was

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Speaker 5: setting up the jab. I like the way he was moving.

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Speaker 5: He was switching stances. He was beating up the body

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Speaker 5: think this is a guy who really could do some

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of that is deserved at this point.

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Speaker 5: He put on an absolute classic fight against a guy

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Speaker 6: So I was just really impressed.

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Speaker 5: And obviously he's heading in the right direction, so just amazing.

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Speaker 3: And some would suggest maybe he doesn't have a style

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Speaker 3: You have to consider the setting, right and the context

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Speaker 4: Fuck you, you know, fuck you Right.

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Speaker 5: Listen, man, in this sport you have the highest highs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like man, I spent so much time in

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Speaker 6: Brilliant picture watching? Because it was it was sick.

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Thankfully I found MMA before it was too late. So

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Speaker 3: in terms of who might be next for Yaya Rodriguez,

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Speaker 5: That's the fight, man, And listen, I think for Yah year,

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Speaker 5: I don't think so after the after the Korean zombie fight, right,

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Speaker 3: So right now, Rodriguez number fifteen in the world, Mago

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Speaker 3: So some history for Donald Cowboys Seroni and say what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, listen. I thought this is a good performance

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Speaker 6: You know, you saw him.

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Speaker 5: He tried to clinch with Mike Perry here and there

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Speaker 5: While I thought that he could potentially outstrike Mike Perry,

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Speaker 3: And given the Mike Winkle John situation that is becoming

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it all comes down to the mentality that

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Speaker 5: You know, I think he's probably gonna look back and

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Speaker 3: All right, So we'll see where Plattinam Mike Perry goes

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Speaker 5: like he's going to go back to one hundred and

438
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Speaker 5: fifty five pounds. He's been, you know, playing over one

439
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy pounds and doing well, kind of having

440
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 5: a mixed results, and I think he's he's best suited

441
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Speaker 5: for one hundred and fifty five pounds, But I think

442
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Speaker 5: now that he's been away for a little bit, I

443
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Speaker 5: would like to see him back in the lightweight division

444
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Speaker 5: and try to make just one more run at that film.

445
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Speaker 3: All right, that's it on Denver time permitting. We'll get

446
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: back to it later. But I want to transition here

447
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 3: to this fight between TJ. Dillashaw and Henry Shudo, and

448
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 3: I guess I hesitate to call it a super fight

449
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 3: because it's a it's a champion versus champion fight. I'm

450
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: not sure that it deserves that super fight distinction necessarily

451
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: back in the days when we were dreaming about Anderson

452
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Speaker 3: Silva versus George Saint Pierre and fights involving John Jones

453
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Speaker 3: and the rest. But in terms of this Dila Shaw

454
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Speaker 3: Shudo matchup, I always felt like it made more sense

455
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: Kenny at one hundred and twenty five pounds. I felt

456
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 3: like it made more competitive sense for TJ. Dillashaw, a

457
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: two time UFC bantamweight champion with three title defenses during

458
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Speaker 3: those two separate reigns for him to get a chance

459
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Speaker 3: and to be given a chance by the promotion to

460
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Speaker 3: become a two division champion, something he has wanted for

461
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Speaker 3: some time. Of course, he wanted the Dimitriz Johnson fight

462
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Speaker 3: and didn't get it. I think that makes more sense

463
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Speaker 3: than to have Henry Sahudo, fresh off of a championship

464
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Speaker 3: that he's never defended, move up to one hundred and

465
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Speaker 3: thirty five pounds and bypass the likes of Marlon but

466
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Speaker 3: Isen hafey Elisontalin to a lesser extent, Domina Cruz and

467
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Speaker 3: fight TJ for the undisputed title. So that's my thesis

468
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Speaker 3: statement on the whole thing. There are a million different

469
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Speaker 3: angles of it, but I want to get your thoughts

470
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Speaker 3: off the top on this fight between Dila Shaw Sahudo

471
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Speaker 3: being made and being made to the surprise of many

472
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Speaker 3: at one hundred and twenty five and not one hundred

473
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Speaker 3: and thirty five pounds.

474
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Speaker 5: Well, it was certainly to my surprise, especially given the

475
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Speaker 5: rumors that they were going to get rid of the

476
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Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five pound division. Right, So listen,

477
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, what this tells me

478
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 5: is that TJ. Dilshaw is a fighter, all right. This

479
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 5: is the guy who's not concerned with, oh, what fight

480
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 5: is going to make me the most amount of money.

481
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: This is a guy who is fighting for legacy. He's

482
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Speaker 5: fighting to truly test himself, and this fucker just wants

483
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Speaker 5: to beat people up. I'm gonna be candid with you.

484
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 5: I think this is a guy who loves to fight

485
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Speaker 5: and hurt people. You hear about the stories from him

486
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: in the training room, to him the way that he

487
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 5: performs in the octagon, this guy really deserves that Moniker

488
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 5: of kill a Shaw. And I'm just really impressed with

489
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Speaker 5: the guy. And if you look at some of his

490
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Speaker 5: past performances and what he's done, and even look back

491
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Speaker 5: ato that fight against Domina Cruz, a fight that certainly

492
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Speaker 5: could have gone his way, he might be the best

493
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Speaker 5: fighter pound for pound on the planet. Look at all

494
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Speaker 5: the skills that he brings to the table. There really

495
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 5: aren't many weaknesses and TJ.

496
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Speaker 6: Dilshaw.

497
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Speaker 5: You look at the skills that he integrates, the sophisticated footwork,

498
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Speaker 5: the fact that he's going and training with one of

499
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: the best boxers of our generation in Lomachenko. This guy

500
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 5: is in pursuit of something else besides money, and to me,

501
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 5: that is a welcome change in a time where everyone

502
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 5: wants as much money as possible and holding out. You

503
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: don't really hear these stories from TJ.

504
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 6: Dillashaw.

505
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Speaker 5: Even when he's injured. He just wants to come back

506
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 5: and kick ass. And I'm surprised that this guy doesn't

507
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: have more fans. And yes, he's a lighterweight fighter, but again,

508
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 5: this is another testament to a guy who is an

509
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 5: absolute brilliant fighter and wants to fight the best, period,

510
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Speaker 5: regardless of anything else.

511
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Speaker 6: Oh, you want to fight at one twenty five? Cool?

512
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 5: I'm sure this guy will fight at one for it

513
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 5: does not matter. He just wants to kick some mass.

514
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: So Henry Shudo is a fantastic fighter. He's an Olympic champion. Okay,

515
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 5: those are rare, doesn't matter where you're going, and the

516
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 5: fact that we have one in the UFC is extremely special.

517
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: This is a guy who of course beat Tometrius Johnson.

518
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 5: So you know, while I think there's a lot of

519
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: tremendous fights at one hundred and thirty five.

520
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 6: Pounds, I think for TJ.

521
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: Dilshaw, he realizes listen, if I can go out there

522
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 5: and beat the guy who beat Demetrius Johnson, that might

523
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 5: might just be just as good.

524
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Speaker 3: Well, and I'm glad to hear you give TJ. Dillashaw

525
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: his credit, because the masses just don't seem to want

526
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Speaker 3: to in terms of skill for skill, being one of

527
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Speaker 3: the best pound for pound fighters at least top ten

528
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Speaker 3: that I've ever seen fight live in person, and I

529
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: think history is going to look back upon what he

530
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: did a lot more fondly than maybe fans do right now,

531
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Speaker 3: just in terms of ruining hen and Barrow, it seems

532
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: like people want to denigrate that because of where Barrow

533
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: went from there, you know, like they just always got

534
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Speaker 3: to give him.

535
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Speaker 6: You can argue that TJ. Dilshaw was the.

536
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Speaker 3: Guy who did that, right well, right, of course, I

537
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 3: think most would argue that. You know, some will suggest

538
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: that TJ is ducking the bantamweight contenders, and we'll get

539
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 3: to those bantamweight contenders in a second. That is just

540
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: not the case at all. It's a guy who's chasing greatness.

541
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Speaker 3: Some will also say that going up to become a

542
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: two division champion, as Daniel Cormier and Connor McGregor did,

543
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: is different than going down. I don't see one accomplishment

544
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: Kenny as vastly superior to the other.

545
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 4: I think TJ.

546
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 3: Dillashaw would be proving that he's undersized a little bit

547
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: at bantam weight and can still twice become the greatest

548
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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five pounder in the world. I

549
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: do think he's small to go up to featherweight, But

550
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: to me, if he wants to, you know, stare death

551
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: in the face and cut down to one hundred and

552
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Speaker 3: twenty five pounds to prove himself as a pound four

553
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: pound great, to me, I don't see that as a

554
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: lesser accomplishment going down to fight the smaller man. I

555
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: think it just boosts up his credentials at thirty five,

556
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: you know, given that he was undersized. But I think

557
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: a lot of fans see those as two very different things,

558
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: moving up to get a second belt versus moving down.

559
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Speaker 5: I could agree with you more, and listen, I think

560
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: that the fans are missing out on really just one

561
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 5: of the best fighters that I've ever seen, and I've

562
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 5: doubted him, you know myself. You know, I thought Cody

563
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 5: matched up really well against him.

564
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 6: But TJ. Delashaw proved that he was just too much.

565
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Speaker 5: That I mean doing it twice and finishing a guy

566
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: like Cody Garber who was extremely dangerous, and you fact

567
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 5: factor that into everything else this guy has accomplished. There's

568
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: no doubt in my mind this guy will go down

569
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: as one of the true greats in this sport.

570
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: And in terms of the disbanding of the flyweight division,

571
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: fans I think are proceeding as if it's a foregone conclusion.

572
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: I think the writing is on the wall. I wouldn't

573
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: take all your cues from Jared the Monkey God Brooks

574
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: and jose Shorty Torrez necessarily two guys who have been cut,

575
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: but Joseph Benavidez was rebooked quickly against Alex Perez coming

576
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: up on November thirtieth. This title fight is in late January.

577
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: If this is the last fight in the division here

578
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: between Dila Shaw and Shudo, I understand why people would

579
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: say this matchup makes less sense. I just don't see

580
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: the harm and I think it would actually be a

581
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: pretty decent way to usher out that division.

582
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Now.

583
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: The big losers in all of this, Kenny, are the

584
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 3: guys at one hundred and thirty five pounds and you

585
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: won't any argument from me that these guys deserve better.

586
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: And I don't know if the solution is a number

587
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: one contender's bout that is made official that way between

588
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: Marlon Madison, Hafelasunsa or Dominic Cruz and John Lineger, whatever

589
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: it is. But at bantamway Kenny, you have two, if

590
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: not three, worthy contenders who have been sitting on the sidelines.

591
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: Foremost among them for me, Marlon Medice been out since

592
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: June first, thirty three, second knockout that ended Jimmy Rivera's

593
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: twenty fight winning streak, Madis's sixteenth win in seventeen fights,

594
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: and I think more importantly Kenny second straight flush knockout

595
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: in the UFC after the knee against al Jamaine Sterling

596
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: and then and then that most recent result against Jimmy Rivere.

597
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: You've got hafe Lasunsao, he's won eleven of twelve. Only

598
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: lost in there was to TJ. Dillashaw that was fairly recent,

599
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: but he beat Rob fought back in July, fourth straight

600
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: win for him. And then of course you got Domina Cruz,

601
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: who is twenty two and two, but he's been out

602
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: since December of twenty sixteen. So those guys lose in

603
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: this equation. But for me, I think for Mae it's

604
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: most unfortunate for him that he is ready to go.

605
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: The TJ fight is a fresh matchup that makes a

606
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: lot of sense, and he just can't seem to get

607
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: that fight.

608
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: It is unfortunate.

609
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: And listen, when you go through all the different names

610
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: and everything those guys have accomplished, you realize that the

611
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty five pound division is one of

612
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 5: the strongest in the UFC. And for Malin Marice, he's

613
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: done amazing things. This guy has done everything, and he's

614
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 5: done it in dramatic fashion. To try to get that

615
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: title shot, He's not going to get it. I don't

616
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 5: know what they're going to do. There's been rumors. I

617
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: don't think it's official, right the Dominic Cruz and John

618
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 5: Lineker fight. I don't think that's been officially announced, but

619
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 5: I know they're talking about it as a potential fight

620
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: as well. Perhaps they're having that as a backup plan,

621
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 5: or perhaps the winner of that would get the next

622
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: title shot. Now, Dominic Cruz has certainly been in the

623
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: UFC a lot longer than Marlon Maris, so I'm curious

624
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 5: to see which direction the UFC will head as far

625
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: as the next title challenger at one hundred and thirty

626
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: five pounds. But either way, it's interesting. I yeah, I

627
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 5: want to see the best fights as soon as possible,

628
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: but guess what, that division's gonna have to marinate a

629
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: little bit. And I'm not displeased with that either way.

630
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: That there's a lot of fantastic fights in the future,

631
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: and what I think it's probably gonna have to be

632
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: a long wait for him. I assume he's going to

633
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: have to take one other fight in the meantime. Perhaps

634
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: that means it's a rematch against a guy a Huffy

635
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 5: als Sonsal who also has done a lot of great

636
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: things to deserve a title shot at TJ dilship.

637
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: And I believe for a sunsw it comes down to money, right.

638
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: He wants to get paid on a level that Marlon,

639
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: but I say is in order to accept that rematch.

640
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: All right, we got to table that for a second,

641
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: because now with us on the guest line, as promised,

642
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: the head coach of the Gilroy High School wrestling team

643
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: in California, also two time United States Olympian Team captain

644
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: UFC heavyweight light heavyweight champion, the captain of the American

645
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: Kickboxing Academy, and a man who can flow. Had he

646
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: served our country at this point, I think he would

647
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: have even pass asked Brian Stan as the greatest living American.

648
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: Daniel Cormier is with us. Good morning, DC. How are you, Bud?

649
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 7: Hey?

650
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 5: Hey?

651
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 7: Thanks Red don Ye. He was making me so good

652
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 7: about myself.

653
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 8: I love it.

654
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Well.

655
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: I know Brian Stan's not gonna like that, you know,

656
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: but I was just thinking, I mean, is Stan still

657
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: the greatest living American? I guess DC didn't serve the country.

658
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: But man, you're closing on b Stan. I'm telling you.

659
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 7: I mean, let me tell you so.

660
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 8: Man with the wave, and.

661
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 7: You know.

662
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 8: The movie.

663
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 7: One Stand is the definition of the American man is made.

664
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: Of one hundred percent.

665
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: And we'll let him still have that distinction because he

666
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: doesn't have eight UFC Gold belts sitting in his hallway

667
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: like you do. As we sit here on November twelfth,

668
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, you can lay claim to being the greatest

669
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: MMA fighter of all time, and had you lost to

670
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis nine days ago, that status would have taken

671
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: a hit. Every time you fight essentially you put that

672
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: status on the line. Yet in this spot you just

673
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: seem totally immune to the pressure of the moment, despite

674
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: the fact that there were some circumstances working against you.

675
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: What is it about your ability, your inner will or

676
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: otherwise that allows you, despite some circumstances that maybe aren't ideal,

677
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: to always or I should say never, kind of be

678
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: flat on fight night.

679
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 7: You know, I just think it comes from a lifetime

680
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 7: of competition. You know, I've been competing for so long

681
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 7: that when I do decide to go and fight or

682
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 7: to go and rustle a match, or whatever the case

683
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 7: may be, I try to just take it serious. You know.

684
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 7: I when I started to get John a little bit

685
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 7: of the DC, going to overlook this guy, or even

686
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 7: though I was talking to the guys from Dare Leviatade

687
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 7: now is making jokes here like this seems like a

688
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 7: chap fight. The scene, it seems like one of those

689
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 7: fights where you think it is lighted. I said, I

690
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 7: would never have, you know, because I respect the sport

691
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 7: and I respect what I've done much to let it

692
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 7: let it fall to the wayside. Because I overlooked some

693
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 7: guy that's so dangerous. I just I take it serious, man,

694
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 7: and everything. I mean, it doesn't even stop with just

695
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 7: the fighting. In every aspect of my life. If I

696
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 7: am committed to something, I try to do it to

697
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 7: the best of my ability.

698
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 6: Well, DC, I want to talk about that, man, because obviously.

699
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 7: I miss you.

700
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 6: I miss you too.

701
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: I've had to put up with Bisping at the desk

702
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: at Fox. I mean, how can you do that guy?

703
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 6: This guy? Yeah?

704
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 5: Anyways, listen, man, you hurt your back the day before

705
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 5: the fight you ended up fighting. Would you have been

706
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 5: How disappointed would you have been if you weren't able

707
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: to go out there and compete against Derek Lewis only

708
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 5: a day before before the fight night?

709
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 7: You know, it would have been very disappointing, you know,

710
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 7: because I look forward to fighting at Madison Square Garden,

711
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 7: and I spent the whole week in New York City

712
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 7: and that's not ideal for me. You know, I'd much

713
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 7: rather be in jill Right, California, you know, but uh,

714
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: spending a week in the city, I was like, non,

715
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 7: I'm betting here. This whole time I prepared myself, I've

716
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 7: worked so hard. I was like, it would suck so

717
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 7: bad to not be able to do this. And then

718
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 7: yet all I was like, how do we explain this?

719
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 7: How did we have explained it? I'm like, how do

720
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 7: you explain that? Uh, this dude squeeze this morning and

721
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 7: do his back out and now we can't fight like that.

722
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 7: That was another one of those starts like wow, like

723
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 7: what is going on? Like what am I gonna do?

724
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 7: And then uh, people were saying, you know, I said

725
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 7: it to Lewis, has knock got a punch of chance

726
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 7: to knock me out? Come to find out? There would

727
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 7: speak two outtions you could have won by fotie would happened?

728
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 7: I would put out of that fight. But that fight

729
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 7: with Derek up on the fight like, I don't understand.

730
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 7: I don't know what would have happened.

731
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 6: Well, dude, things.

732
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 5: As a guy who has suffered from a lot of

733
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 5: different back injuries and stuff, it's so wild that it's

734
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: always something, you know, harmless, like a sneeze. I'd hurt

735
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: my back reaching for a shirt that's on the floor

736
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: or something. It's wild that that happens. But going forward,

737
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 5: are you now going to do something different? Are you

738
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 5: going to prepare differently for your next fight so this

739
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: doesn't happen again?

740
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 6: Obviously you can only control so much.

741
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 5: But now, now the fact that this has happened, how

742
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 5: are you going to prepare for some for this potential eventuality.

743
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 7: So I think what has to happen is I think

744
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 7: what has to happen is I just have to have

745
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 7: enough time to enough time to prepare. Right. The reason

746
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 7: that's happened is because I've rested my whole life and

747
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 7: most have vacancines. Eventually, yeah, usually I will have my

748
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 7: back go out on me about three weeks in the

749
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 7: train cat The issue was three weeks in the training

750
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 7: camp because fight night and I didn't have a week

751
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 7: to take off to try to let myself recover. But

752
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 7: I tried to change a few things. But the reality

753
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 7: of the situation is I am who I am because

754
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 7: of the way I work and because of the commitment

755
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 7: and training. So if I was to take a step

756
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 7: back on the training, I don't feel like I would

757
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 7: be as confident walking to the octagon. I felt so

758
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 7: in my element on November third, and that was honestly

759
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 7: because I fought so much this year and the more

760
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 7: I complete, the better I feel. I felt great going

761
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 7: on them.

762
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: Well, I want to talk to you about your next

763
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 5: potential fight against brock Lester. There are rumors that because

764
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 5: he signed a new deal with the WWE, that that

765
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 5: could put that fight in jeopardy.

766
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 6: Have you heard anything about that?

767
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've heard. I've heard uh uh about the fight

768
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 7: and everything's still going forward as plan. It was just

769
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 7: look Roman raised the guy that that was like the

770
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 7: big time guy in the w W, and unfortunately the

771
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 7: guy just he has leukemia and he beat leukemia a

772
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 7: long time ago, but it's back and so he had

773
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 7: to leave to go and go through the recovery process again.

774
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 7: And when you lose a big star like that, the

775
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 7: ww has decided to replace him, and better than to

776
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 7: have your guy who's had to go for the last

777
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 7: few years just resigned. And and you know, it's crazy

778
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 7: that people are making such a big deal about Box signing.

779
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 7: The contract brought Russelled in wrestle Mania, and two months

780
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 7: later he fought addressed to two hundred and in Russell

781
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 7: at SummerSlam, like a month after that. You know says

782
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 7: like that, it doesn't really change anything. I think everything's

783
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 7: just the same. But Broxton to make money has brought

784
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 7: makes money and w W always play him so much well,

785
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 7: I would do it.

786
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: Hey, so you were born March twentieth, nineteen seventy nine.

787
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: March twentieth, twenty nineteen, you've said you'd like to be retired.

788
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: How willing are you to bend that self inflicted deadline,

789
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: even just a couple months to make sure that the

790
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: Lesnar fight is the one that gets done.

791
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 7: I don't really feel like I will need to bend

792
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 7: the retirement date for the Lesnar fight. If the Lesner

793
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 7: fight starts to get pushed bags, then I would start

794
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 7: to worry because I want to fight him March second

795
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 7: or March third, whatever weekend that is that gives him.

796
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 7: That gives him a night time to fight at the

797
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 7: beginning of that month. It puts me right uf, it

798
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 7: puts me at the end of the high school restaurant season,

799
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 7: so it's in mid February. And then it also gives

800
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 7: Black enough time to go fight me lose the fight,

801
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 7: and it started getting ready Russemania in April, so it

802
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 7: doesn't really It just works perfect good from both of

803
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 7: our schedules, and I think that's the date that the

804
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 7: fight's going to be.

805
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: All right, a couple more minutes here with the champs,

806
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: so in terms of all the gold at your house.

807
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna try to put this question in an

808
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: efficient manner. But like when you won the Strikeforce Heavyweight

809
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: Grand Prix, you know no one was going to say

810
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: that softened the blow for not realizing your dream of

811
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: an Olympic gold medal. When you win the UFC Light

812
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: Heavyweight title, someone might say, hey, man, doing all this

813
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: winning kind of soften the blow, And you probably say, oh, man,

814
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: I do anything to be on top of that podium.

815
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: But now here you are as a simultaneous two division champion,

816
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: one of the greatest UFC fighters, if not tops all time.

817
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: Doesn't all of this winning like begin to soften that

818
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: blow DC of not being atop the Olympic podium.

819
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 7: I think it starts to make you realize that and

820
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 7: my journey and look, the gold medal was not the plan,

821
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 7: because if it was, I would have accomplished it, and

822
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 7: then this UFC career would have never been a part

823
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 7: of it, because I can truly say that if I

824
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 7: was an Olympic camp I would have never fought. And

825
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 7: for me to truly realize what I was really meant

826
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 7: to be was to lose at the Olympic to know

827
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 7: for and I get to compete, so that I would

828
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 7: go and find sallus for mixed martial arts, and so

829
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 7: I think it made me put things into perspective that

830
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 7: wrestling and being the best in the world in wrestling

831
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 7: was not my ultimate plan. It wasn't in my ultimate plan,

832
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 7: and it wasn't in my journey. It wasn't to be.

833
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 7: But now I was supposed to be a usc tighter

834
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 7: and obviously it's showing now.

835
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's worked out a little bit, all right.

836
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: Gilroy High School wrestling team, so sixteen consecutive team titles,

837
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: but they finished second in the state last year without you.

838
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: Is that correct? Do I have that right?

839
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 8: Yes?

840
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 7: I'm actually at the high school right now. You hear them.

841
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 7: They just finished running. You're Roy High School wrestaurant. Sixteen

842
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 7: times CCS champion, second in the state of California right now.

843
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 7: The national rankings just came out. We're ranked camp in

844
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 7: the country, number two in the state. So we got

845
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 7: to shot. We got a shot, and that's all we need.

846
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 7: We just want to shot.

847
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 6: You know.

848
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 7: I think I think our teams a little better than tenth,

849
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 7: and I believe that we're going to prove it. So

850
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 7: my focus right now is these kids. It's making sure

851
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 7: that these kids, these young men and women have the

852
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 7: best opportunity to earn college scholarships. Ryan Rayes, our one

853
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 7: hundred and ninety five pound kids right number three in

854
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 7: the country. He just signed a full scholarship at Presno State.

855
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 7: Our one hundred and thirty pound kid is number seven

856
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 7: in the country. He just signed a scholarship to Michigan State.

857
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 7: Another kid named Daniel Vascara is a senior. He just

858
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 7: signed with Cal Paul. So we just put three kids

859
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 7: in the Division one university in the last month, and

860
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 7: we've got a few more to sign. So that's the plan.

861
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 7: That's the goal, and as of right now, it's working

862
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 7: out as we wanted it to.

863
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: And it's the only wrestling matt at a high school

864
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: in the US that I would eat off of because

865
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: they got new mats, the double Champ. Hey, thanks for

866
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: squeezing us in man. I know your minutes are precious.

867
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine when the last time you had

868
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: a day off like without either kids gymnastics or a

869
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: birthday party or training or fighting.

870
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: So I appreciate you squeezing us in as always my.

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Speaker 7: Man, Jay, thank you man, I just got I just

872
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Speaker 7: was going into practice and settle most dashingly human being

873
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Speaker 7: I've ever taught a contacted wrong with my.

874
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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 6: He is.

877
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Speaker 3: UFC Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight Champion, joining us here on

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Speaker 3: the Attic and Florian Podcast. A couple of things before

879
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: we get to the picks uh in the main event challenge,

880
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: wrapping up the Marisa Sunsole conversation. One challenging wrinkle to

881
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: the Dillashasa hudo fight Kenflow being at one hundred and

882
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: twenty five pounds and not one hundred and thirty five

883
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: pounds is that you can't do a title eliminator between

884
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: a Sunsow and but Ice that same night in Anaheim.

885
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: You can, right, But I don't think it's fair to

886
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: ask TJ where something to happen happened to Henry or

887
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: Henry were something to happen to TJ for those guys

888
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 3: to move up to thirty five in an interim championship situation.

889
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: Do you think it's fair when Dillashaw is training his

890
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: body and you know, starving himself. I mean, obviously he's

891
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: doing it the right way. But right, I don't think

892
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 3: it's fair for TJ to be training for a flyweight

893
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: championship fight and that then have to put his Bandam

894
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: weight belt on the line on short notice.

895
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: Right, that's not right.

896
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, listen.

897
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 5: I think that that takes a tremendous amount of commitment.

898
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 5: Everything is going to revolve around that weight cut. I

899
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: don't think he can't do it. He's He's shown himself

900
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: to be, you know, only a few pounds above one

901
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty five.

902
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 6: I think he showed himself on the.

903
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: Scale at like one for one, just regularly without really

904
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Speaker 5: doing any hardcore dieting. So he's still pretty close that

905
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five pound limit. Is very confident

906
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Speaker 5: that he can make it.

907
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. You're right, though.

908
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: Everything in training camp is going to revolve around the

909
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: fight before the fight for TJ.

910
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: Dillashaw.

911
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: But hey, the thirty five is in a great space

912
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: and it'll be interesting either way. I think to see

913
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: Henry Sahuto in that mix of contenders. We'll see what

914
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: they do with the flyweight division. I think all indications

915
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: are it'll be done at the end of January, but

916
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything come internally that that is going

917
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: to be the resolution, so you just never know, all right,

918
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: last thing, and I just want to shout out Kevin McDonald.

919
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: I know I did briefly rite the referee, and I'm

920
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: not doing this because he's a Massachusetts native, but i'd

921
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: imagine you think he made the right call at the

922
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Speaker 3: end of the fight between Chan Sung jung and Yai.

923
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: You're Rodriguez, And I don't want to sit here and

924
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: say he's in the minority of guys who would have

925
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: gotten that right in the moment. But in the moment, Kenny,

926
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Speaker 3: most of the referees I'm not sure would get it

927
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: exactly right. And it wasn't just him getting it right,

928
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Speaker 3: it was the conviction with which he made the decision right,

929
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Speaker 3: almost as if expectant that something crazy could happen, given

930
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Speaker 3: the combatants and given what had played out in front

931
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Speaker 3: of him. Elbow lands, Korean zombie goes face down TKO,

932
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: no indecision whatsoever, and as a result, we're talking about

933
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Speaker 3: this as the greatest capstone to a special show in

934
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Speaker 3: UFC history. Instead of a referee who got in the

935
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Speaker 3: way in a way, he wasn't supposed to.

936
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you brought it up, because you know

937
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: so many times you and I are I guess me specifically,

938
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Speaker 5: I'm sitting here criticizing, you know, the referee and the

939
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: very difficult jobs that they have, and I think it's

940
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: important that we give them the credit when it is due.

941
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Speaker 5: And I thought Kevin McDonald stayed extremely present during that moment.

942
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 5: He was obviously engaged, made the right call right there.

943
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 6: In that moment.

944
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: And yeah, was focused on fighter safety and obviously was

945
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: highly engaged in the fight and made the right call.

946
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 5: And that's not really an easy decision to make, especially

947
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 5: given the dramatic circumstances in which Korean Zombie was dropped.

948
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: I think I've seen it probably fifteen or sixteen times, right,

949
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: I can understand why the announcers in the moment maybe

950
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: thought it was ahead bup because things happened so quickly.

951
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: But oh what an elbow. And for a guy like

952
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: Ken Flower who loves the elbows, couldn't have gone a

953
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 3: whole lot better. All right, So the hits keep on coming.

954
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: We have seven UFC shows between now and the end

955
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: of the year. It's the UFC's first johnt to blame

956
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: us this weekend. To that end, let us get to

957
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: the main event challenge.

958
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge.

959
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 4: The time is most definitely.

960
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: I finished fine, how do you everything?

961
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 6: Boss?

962
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: Will to win the main event challenge? John Nnick and

963
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: Kenny Floria.

964
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: That podcast all right, So it was one twenty six

965
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: to one thirteen in favor of the good guys Team

966
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: Ana Conda. Going into UFC Denver, you went head to

967
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: head with podcast listener Chris Meyer. Chris Meyer wins the

968
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: week four to three courtesy of the pick on Yayi

969
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: Rodriguez has underdog to win by knockout sixteen. Going into

970
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: Argentina this weekend, we will have five picks today, six

971
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: fights on the main card FS one, UFC Fight Night

972
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: Magni versus Ponzinibio.

973
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Speaker 4: And joining us from the UK today is Tony. Tony,

974
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: are you there?

975
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 8: Hi? Guys, Thanks having me on.

976
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: Tony. Our pleasure to have you.

977
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 8: Man.

978
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: You're the first guest picker in the history of the

979
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: Anak and Florian podcast that would not disclose his surname.

980
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: So I just love that you're Tony and we're excited

981
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: to have you. I know you're a sharp cat from

982
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: following you on Twitter. So let's get to it. First

983
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 3: fight up for debate in the strawweight division, Poliano Botelio

984
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: minus won twenty five against the returning Cynthia Calvio, who,

985
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: to the surprise of some, entrenched as a plus one

986
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: oh five underdog here both tell you two and zero

987
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: in the UFC seven and one overall. She hasn't lost

988
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Speaker 3: since twenty fourteen. Calvio for a while there on the

989
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: fast track before she ran in to the Carla Esparza

990
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: train and the marijuana police about a year ago. At

991
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: this point, who do you like here on the main card,

992
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: Tony Calvio or botell you.

993
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 8: It's a close one. Everyone on the internet seems to

994
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 8: be on beyond Botello, which seems quite surprising to me.

995
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 8: We haven't seen a fake deal with her in a

996
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 8: two UFC fights. One she spent the majority of the

997
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 8: fight hugged against the cage. Second fight was a quick

998
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 8: TKO win. Cynthia's got a fantastic grand game. She's probably

999
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 8: top three grappler in the one fifteen division. I think

1000
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 8: one take dand the ram's gone at least, if not

1001
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 8: the fight, But we don't really know what the teller's

1002
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 8: takedown defense is like bar the fence hugging that she

1003
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 8: had with Pale for free rands. So I'm going to

1004
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 8: go out on a limb hea and I think I'm

1005
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 8: actually going to side with Cynthia being able to snatch

1006
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 8: this with a submission. I think one takedown. Her grand

1007
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 8: game is that good. She can end this fight in

1008
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 8: an instant. In all her UFC fights, whenever the fight's

1009
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 8: gone to the floor, she's just absolutely dominated everyone, including

1010
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 8: Kyla Asparsa in one rand, and we know Carla's a

1011
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 8: legitimate grappler. Amanda Cooper, she annihilated Pelshy annihilated. I just

1012
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 8: think if one takedown and she's quite good at catching kicks, Cynthia,

1013
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 8: she isn't urgent enough with the takedown, so fight IQ

1014
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 8: is questionable. But she has court kicks in the past,

1015
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 8: and Portolo does throw a lot of low kicks, and

1016
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 8: while she is very powerful and seems to hit very

1017
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 8: hard for a one fisteine a woman, I do think

1018
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 8: one court kick and this could be going over. So

1019
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 8: I'm going to go with Cynthia's submission.

1020
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: All right, can flow Tony like Cynthia Calvio by submission.

1021
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: She fought five times in twenty seventeen. Four of those

1022
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: were in the UFC, so even though it was by

1023
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: suspension flow, perhaps some time off was maybe a good

1024
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: thing for Cynthia Calvio. One of just three fighters in

1025
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: the modern era to compete on back to back pay

1026
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 3: per views. She did that UFC two on nine, UFC

1027
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: two ten. Only other fighters to do that, by the way,

1028
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: Tito Ortiz and of course Derek Lewis just a week ago.

1029
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: Ken Floy, what do you think here? Close fight on paper?

1030
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: Calvio or both tell you it is.

1031
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make it a lot quicker here. I think

1032
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 5: Botello it is tough. I think she's very good. I

1033
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: think she's very aggressive. I just I'm not sure i'm

1034
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: sold on her just yet. I think Calvio if she comes,

1035
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 5: you know, with the kind of striking and kind of

1036
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 5: grappling that we've seen in the past, I think Calvio

1037
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: wins this. I think she's gonna be hungry as well,

1038
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 5: coming off this little layoff. She's a fighter that likes

1039
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 5: to stay active. I know she's always in the gym,

1040
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: always improving. I'm gonna go with Calvio here as well.

1041
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: All right, Cynthia Calvio plus one oh five this weekend?

1042
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: All right?

1043
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: Next up at bandam Way, Guys, Marlin Cheatovera the minus

1044
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: three oh five favorite here against Guito Kennetti, who comes

1045
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: back at plus two thirty five. I can't recall Cheeto

1046
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: Vera being this big a favorite really at any point

1047
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: in his UFC career. Open He's a big favorite. His

1048
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: last time out against Wiliji Borin. That was a short

1049
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: notice win for him, but the odds closed a lot

1050
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 3: closer in that one. Here he draws the Argentine Guto Kenetti. Tony,

1051
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: who do you like in this one, Cheeto Vera or

1052
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: Guito Kennedy.

1053
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 8: I'm going to go with Vera here. I bet Vera

1054
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 8: in his last fight, funnily enough, and he made me

1055
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 8: sweat that for that money, So I don't think I'll

1056
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 8: be backing him again as such a big favorite. But Connett,

1057
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 8: he's thirty nine, I think next month. He's had two

1058
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 8: fights in I think the last four years. Vera seems

1059
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 8: to be improving a lot if you look back in

1060
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 8: his early UFC career, like the Davy David Grant fight,

1061
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 8: he seems to have come on a lot since then.

1062
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 8: He seems to have filled out a lot as well.

1063
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 8: He seems like a really big one thirty five and

1064
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 8: our So I do think he's improving. He's not improved

1065
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 8: as much as maybe I thought going from his last fight.

1066
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 8: I was expecting a more dominant victory. But Connetta, he

1067
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 8: does seem to slow do in fights. I think the

1068
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 8: first round will be pretty competitive. They both like to

1069
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 8: throw a lot of kicks. I can speaking that he

1070
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 8: maybe edge in the first round, but I think as

1071
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 8: we get into the second and third round, I definitely

1072
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 8: see Connetti's pace dropping off. I think Vera always start

1073
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 8: to take over and Hirah can finish fights. He's got

1074
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 8: good submission skills, He's got good head kicks. I do

1075
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 8: see him catching Kennetti with something at some point in

1076
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 8: the second half of the fight.

1077
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: All right, Cam Flow tenth UFC appearance for Cheeto Vera

1078
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: five and four in the UFC. A loss here would

1079
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: be three in his last four, but he's favored to

1080
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: get it done this weekend. Your thoughts on Vera and

1081
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: your boy Guido Connetti That you can't call Guido on

1082
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: live TV, that's.

1083
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: Right, listen. I think Connetti has some decent skills. He's fast,

1084
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 5: you know, can be dangerous early on. But I think

1085
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: Cheetoh Vera is going to win this fight. I think

1086
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: his length, his height is going to give Conneti a

1087
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: lot of problems, especially late in the fight. I think

1088
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: Vera overall is just a better fighter. So I'm going

1089
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 5: with Cheeto here.

1090
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: All right, two plays for Marlon Cheito Vera next up

1091
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: light heavyweight feature about here. Khalil Rowntree junior, unbeaten spanning

1092
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: his last four the minus two to sixty favorite against

1093
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: the UFC newcomer Johnny Walker Johnny Walker Black, Johnny Walker Blue.

1094
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: Now it's just Johnny Walker's plus two hundred, Tony, What

1095
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: do you think about this one?

1096
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Khalil. I think that he's fast,

1097
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 8: hands actor and are going to put Johnny Walker away

1098
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 8: in the first round. But as a better I'm not

1099
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 8: betting on Khalil if this goes into the second side

1100
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 8: rounds We've seen historically He's gas tank isn't great. He's

1101
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 8: not great on the matt either. Johnny Walker looked okay

1102
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 8: against Frankenstein on the Dana White Contender Series. He's pretty

1103
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 8: dominating victory for him. He seems like he's pretty good

1104
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 8: from top position. So if Khalil does start to slow

1105
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 8: down and john gets on top, I've seen him in

1106
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 8: numerous fights get to the man position, get people's backs.

1107
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 8: He managed to tank and Stein in a couple of

1108
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 8: times as well, so Khalil's really got to put him

1109
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 8: away in the first round. I feel Johnny's very explosive,

1110
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 8: He's very tall, He's got a very long reach eight

1111
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 8: to two inch, so he's got a lot of advantages

1112
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 8: in that sense. But I do feel Khalil's faster, But

1113
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 8: as I said, he does slow down, so if he

1114
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 8: can't get rid of him in round one, I think

1115
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 8: this could be all Dan Hill ran two and free onwards.

1116
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 8: So I'm going to go Khalil round one knockout, but

1117
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 8: I don't trust him at he's current betting price, and

1118
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 8: I will be keeping an eye on how to fight

1119
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 8: unfolded in round.

1120
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 5: Two and three.

1121
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can fill the Brazilian Johnny Walker's getting

1122
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 3: some respect here from Vegas. He has fought his entire

1123
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: career in Brazil up until his last fight. I believe

1124
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: that was on Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender series filmed

1125
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: in Vegas August of twenty eighteen.

1126
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: You heard Tony reference the win over.

1127
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: Frankenstein that sixth time UFC veteran and Hiki is so

1128
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: that's certainly a feather in his cap. As for Roundtree

1129
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: Junior Flow, I mean hard to do better than his

1130
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: last time out, won a performance bonus with that stunning

1131
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 3: knockout of Go Konsaki, and now favor to get it

1132
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: done here and keep the momentum going against the UFC

1133
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: first time or Johnny Walker your thoughts.

1134
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 5: Perhaps more impressive than his performance against Go Konsaki as

1135
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: far as the actual finish was the fact that.

1136
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 6: He just seemed very calm and composed and just ready

1137
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 6: to go.

1138
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: It seems like he now feels like he's a veteran

1139
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 5: in the octagon, like he's finally comfortable in there.

1140
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 6: And to me, that's a very good sign.

1141
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 5: And why Johnny Walker can't pose some problems for a

1142
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 5: guy like Khalil Rowntree, I think Khalil just has a

1143
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 5: little bit too much firepower, a little too much speed,

1144
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 5: a little too much power.

1145
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 6: So I'm going with Browntree here.

1146
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: Gosh, if you're calling a Johnny Walker knockout. As a

1147
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: play by play guy, how do you resist the temptation

1148
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: to just say like Johnny Walker blue or something, you know,

1149
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: I mean really have to like not do that, you

1150
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: know his family way?

1151
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 4: What is this louse shit? You all right? Co Maine

1152
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 4: Event two perennial tough outs.

1153
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: Here the former featherweight title challenger Ricardo lomis minus two

1154
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: sixty against Darren the Damage Elkins. Who is the plus

1155
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: two hundred underdog Tony Who do you like?

1156
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: Here? In the comin event in Buenos Aires?

1157
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 8: This is a tough one. I'm going to go out

1158
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 8: of a limb here and I'm going to go for

1159
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 8: Darren Elkins. He's come for as an underdog so many

1160
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 8: times now it seems kind of foolish not to not

1161
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 8: to at least lay a little bit of money on him.

1162
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 8: I think these two are fairly similar statistically. They are

1163
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 8: very similar in terms of significant significant strikes landed, significant strikes, absorbed,

1164
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 8: their takedowns, defended, their takedown success. Either of them have

1165
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 8: ever been submitted. He's I seem to have a problem

1166
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 8: with Teamale for male fighters as well. He's lost to

1167
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 8: I think three of their fighters over the years. Now,

1168
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 8: Darren Elkins is a lot different to your Josh Emmetz

1169
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 8: and yeah, Chad Mendez, but they're going to have some

1170
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 8: inside info in that camp as well. I think Elkins

1171
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 8: takes down everyone he fights, and Lamas can be taken down.

1172
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 8: He's take down defense is relatively low. It's at forty

1173
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 8: seven percent, and Elkins starts getting the grind on. You're

1174
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 8: in trouble. And I remember betting Dennis Bermudez over Darren

1175
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 8: Elkins thinking it was going to be quite a comfortable

1176
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 8: win because the Mudees is takedown defense and looked impenetrable,

1177
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden round one and two,

1178
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 8: he's getting that wrestled. So I'm going to go with Riccardo. Sorry,

1179
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 8: Darren Elkins here to win a decision, all.

1180
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: Right, So ken flow.

1181
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: Darren Elkins absorbing a lot of punishment as usual his

1182
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: last fight against Alexander Volkanowski, but that ended a six

1183
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: fight winning streak for Darren Elkins. Let's not forget the

1184
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 3: momentum that he had going into that fight. Ricardo Lamas

1185
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: also needs a win. Though here thought he looked good

1186
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 3: against Mersad Bechtick. I mean he lost a split decision,

1187
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 3: but I thought he answered a lot of questions in

1188
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: coming back from that devastating knockout loss to Josh Emmett,

1189
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: and as such, Lamas entrenched. Here's a minus two to

1190
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: sixty favorite Ken Flow. Who do you like in the

1191
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 3: comin event?

1192
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I think Lomas matches up pretty well against Elkins.

1193
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 6: To be honest, I don't.

1194
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 5: Really see an area where Elkins threatens Lamas as far

1195
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: as finishing the fight. He just doesn't hit hard enough.

1196
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: I don't see him hitting a submission on a guy

1197
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 5: like Lamas. Elkins does have that propensity of coming up

1198
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: big as an underdog.

1199
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 6: But I just don't see it here.

1200
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 5: As far as the style matchup, I think Lamas goes

1201
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: out there and gets the win.

1202
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 6: I think he is most likely to be a restler.

1203
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 6: I think he's better this submission game.

1204
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 5: But more than anything else, I think where Elkins is

1205
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: going to have some trouble is on the feet.

1206
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 6: He just gets hit way too much for my liking.

1207
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: All Right, Main event in what will be the UFC's

1208
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: first jount to Argentina, Santiago ponz and Ebio minus three

1209
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: p forty Neil Magni the underdog at plus two sixty

1210
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: ponds and Ebo Flow. One of the most dangerous welterweights

1211
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: I think in the world, you know, and I think

1212
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: the record sort of speaks to that.

1213
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: He's won six in a row.

1214
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 3: It's hard to say he would be without all the

1215
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: injuries of course that date to the Ultimate Fighter. But

1216
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: as far as where he is this weekend at a

1217
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: UFC main event in his native Argentina, and it comes

1218
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: against the always game Neil Magni. This is the main event,

1219
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: so Tony will need the round of the method of

1220
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: victory as well. Who wins it, Ponzanibio or Magni and

1221
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: how do they get it done.

1222
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 8: I'm going to go for Ponzanivo decision. I think Magnie

1223
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 8: is going to have to survive an early on SLALT,

1224
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 8: but we've seen him do that before. I think he

1225
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 8: will survive the early on SLALT. I think as the

1226
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 8: rams go and it could become closer, Magnie could potentially

1227
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 8: start to take over. We've seen him the Gastillon, so

1228
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 8: we know he can hang around at the higher level.

1229
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 8: He's got a massive reach advantage, but I don't really

1230
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 8: know if he's got the power to keep Ponzanivo off

1231
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 8: of him. Basically, Ponzanibo is a great pressure fighter. He's

1232
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 8: going to be in his face. I think he might

1233
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 8: slow a little as we can get into the latter rounds,

1234
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 8: but I think he's going to do enough early to

1235
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 8: get the decision here. He might put him away in

1236
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 8: round one, but I think Magnie's going to survive, show

1237
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 8: that toughness that he's showing before in flights who he's

1238
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 8: been in trouble early, and I think he's going to

1239
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 8: hang around and make it competitive. But I see pons

1240
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 8: and Ebo walking away with a forty nine and forty

1241
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 8: six decision.

1242
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 3: All right, Santiago ponz and Ebio by decision the pick

1243
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: for Tony. You can find Tony on Twitter, by the way,

1244
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: at pro Mma betting seventy two percent pick rate, and

1245
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: clearly you did your homework and I like your chances

1246
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: against the flow this weekend, Tony.

1247
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: I know it's late where you are.

1248
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate you hopping on and maybe we'll have you

1249
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: back later in the year.

1250
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 4: My man, Thanks for the.

1251
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 8: Time, Thanks guys, thanks a lot. See later.

1252
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: Right there, he is Tony at pro MMA Betting.

1253
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: God wouldn't you like to be a professional mixed martial

1254
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: arts better for a living when I retire. I mean,

1255
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: that's what I'm gonna try to do. The problem is

1256
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hit very often. You know, even when I

1257
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: have inside information, it doesn't play out all right. So

1258
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: here's your main event. Santiago Pons and Ebo prohibitive favorite

1259
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: here against Neil Magni, who makes his twentieth UFC appearance.

1260
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 3: I mean, can we congratulate Neil Magne on twenty UFC fights?

1261
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: Right if you had been on Neil Magni getting to

1262
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: twenty UFC appearances back in the day. When he made

1263
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: his UFC debut in twenty thirteen, came off the Ultimate

1264
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: Fighter without much fanfare. You know, this guy's main evented

1265
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: for the UFC as a win over Carlos Condit not

1266
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: all that long ago. He's won three or four flow

1267
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: only loss in there to ha Fayel dosn Jos. All

1268
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: of that said, most people think he is up against

1269
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: it this weekend against Santiago Ponzinibio.

1270
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: Your main event prediction for Argentina if you would.

1271
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 5: First of all, being a professional gambler sounds way too

1272
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 5: stressful for me. But yeah, you know, listen, I think

1273
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 5: it's amazing what Neil Magni has done. You know, started

1274
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 5: his career in twenty thirteen. The fact he's you know,

1275
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 5: twenty UFC appearances, that's an average of four fights a year.

1276
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 6: That is absolutely ridiculous.

1277
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 5: Very few fighters can get to twenty, and even fewer

1278
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 5: can do it in the and the short amount of

1279
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 5: time that Neil Magni has done it. Now, I agree

1280
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 5: with Tony that his reach could post problems for Pontsinibio

1281
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 5: if he's able to dance around the octagon, utilize that

1282
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 5: job and keep Ponsonibio off of them, especially in that

1283
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 5: clinch out. I think that Magnie can win this fight. However,

1284
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 5: I gotta go with Pontsinebio. I think he has a

1285
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 5: little bit too much firepower. He hits very hard. He

1286
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 5: seems to wake up and fight that actually when you

1287
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 5: hurt him with something so Potsanibio fighting in his home country,

1288
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 5: I think he'll definitely have a lot of motivation to

1289
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 5: go out there and get the win. I see him

1290
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 5: getting the win in and around the third round, landing

1291
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 5: a big shot on the feet and getting a TKO.

1292
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: All right, Santiago Ponzinibio Round three TKO the pick to

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Speaker 3: click for Ken Flow this weekend. If you do want

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Speaker 3: to make picks against Kenny. We are going to tweak

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Speaker 3: the Main Event Challenge in twenty nineteen, so I don't

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Speaker 3: know exactly what we're gonna do, but Annik florianpodcast at

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. That gets you in the queue. Annik

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Speaker 3: Florianpodcast at gmail dot com. If you want to be

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Speaker 3: a part of the Main Event Challenge. We still haven't

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Speaker 3: even determined the punishment. I mean, I think it's probably

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Speaker 3: gonna be in a power hour, but uh, I might

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Speaker 3: even do that.

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Speaker 6: We didn't talk about.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not afraid of you, so we'll see

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Speaker 4: what happens.

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Speaker 3: I know you're not afraid to throw up on live TV,

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Speaker 3: so might not have a TV home next year anyway

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Speaker 3: when you pay.

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Speaker 4: Off the bet.

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Speaker 3: So all right, hey, thanks for carving out a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: I know you're up there with your family in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 3: Last thing you probably want to be doing is talking

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Speaker 3: about you know, Poliono Botelio. With all due respect, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, but thank you for breaking away.

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Speaker 4: Send the doctor my best.

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Speaker 3: Tell them the Wi Fi was one hundred percent on point,

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Speaker 3: and I will talk to you in a week.

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Speaker 6: All right, I will man always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: All right. That's it for this week.

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Speaker 3: We will have a quick episode for you coming up

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Speaker 3: next Monday during Thanksgiving week, so it'll come out Monday night.

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Speaker 3: We'll recap the Argentina show. Also some predictions from Ken

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Speaker 3: Flow for the UFC's return to China. That's a big

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Speaker 3: heavyweight main event there coming up November twenty fourth on

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Speaker 3: UFC Fight Pass. Curtis Blades the forgotten man at heavyweight.

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Speaker 3: Everyone talking about Brock Lezard and Steepe. How about Curtis

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Speaker 3: Razor Blades. He takes on Francis and Gano. That's your

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Speaker 3: heavyweight man event. We'll see which way Ken Flow goes

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Speaker 3: with that. Thank you to our guest Daniel Cormier Tony

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Speaker 3: on the Picks for Flow on the whole Fox Sports team,

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Speaker 3: I'm John Anick. We appreciate you listening as always to

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Speaker 3: Ray Longo, to your family, we love you. We look

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Speaker 3: forward to having you back next week. May your mother

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Speaker 3: rest in peace, and we'll talk to the rest of

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Speaker 3: you in about six days.

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