1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, and NEWI Scrugs. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Hey, players lunch time on Election Day on NFL Trade 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: Deadline Day into the SWBC podcast studios here at the Star, 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: Frisco World headquarters for the Dallas Cowboys. 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 4: Heck Harrison is in the house. Barry Church is in 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: the house. I am New he Scrugs and Jerry Jones 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys made a trade today. Yes, we're sending 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: a twenty twenty five fourth round draft pick to the 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Carolinas for a wide receiver named Jonathan Mingo who they 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: drafted the second round a couple of years ago. He 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 4: has twelve catches for one hundred and twenty one yards, 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: no touchdowns this year. 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: Wait, well, twelve catches, twelve for the year for the year, yeah, 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: he has five thirty nine in his career, never scored 20 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: NF Wait. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, yeah, thank me back a little bit. 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: When did this man get into the league? 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 6: Shit? 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: Twenty three, twenty three Yeah, had his second round pick. 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 7: Second round pick, twelve catches for the season, nine games deep. 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, on a bad team, on a bad team. Yeah, 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 4: not the number one receiver on the bad team. 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 7: He might have been with the third because you had 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 7: the ealand you had Yonte Johns. 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: He might have been a fourth he said, a fourth round. 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 8: With it. 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: A fourth rounder for this. 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, Jonathan Mingo from Man, Yes, for Mississippi, Yes, 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: Jonathan Mingo. He is a Dallas cowboy. Barry Church, welcome 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 5: him with open arms. 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Come on now and look I can see, I can see. 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Maybe you know this is for like we were talking yesterday. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 7: Maybe this is for twenty five, you know, seeing if 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 7: you can get a guy that can come in here 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 7: and maybe play second fiddle to Cee Lamb next year. 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: You know. 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 7: Maybe I get all that. I understand that part of it. 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 7: But the part that confuses me is the fourth round. 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 7: I mean, they let their number one guy go, Deontay Johnson. 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 7: I believe, who's their number one receiver was doing this 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 7: thing in Carolina. They let him go to Baltimore for 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 7: like a sixth I think for less, Yeah, for less, 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 7: and then but then you gonna trade for the for 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 7: the fifth fifth receiving option. 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: The plot dickens. You can keep going for a fourth round. 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: You can keep going. It was trades made. Don't stop there. 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 7: And we've seen these fourth rounders, these second day guys 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 7: can come in and they can be a big part 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 7: of your team going forward. This is not like it's 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 7: a seventh round or undrafted. This is a fourth round 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 7: pick that you can you can use in other places. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 7: And this is a guy that I could see if 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 7: the production was there. I can see if the production 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 7: twelve catches. 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Twelve catches a fourth rounder. Man, this is y'all. Tell people, 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: because I got this is behind blowing to me. 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: The more the more you say it, the matter you're 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: gonna get right, I mean, and really you, I think 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 5: when you look around the league at the other moves 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: that are being made, you see some other teams obviously 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: with some other descriptions, some other deficiencies on their roster, 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 5: and they're going out there, man, and they're getting more 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: for less, I mean, getting more for less. And if 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: you're gonna give up a fourth, you're gonna give up 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 5: a third. 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be for a commodity. 72 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 5: Commodity that already has the production to go with it. 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: It's like, I don't think that yesterday when we left here, 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 5: nobody was expecting there to be any splash trades, did 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: you not. I mean, obviously it's it's what you give 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: up that you're probably upset about, but you obviously didn't 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: expect the splash to happen today. 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: I just. 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 7: I'm looking up to see what the Stellers traded for 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 7: Mike Williams, you know, a moving, approven receiver, commodity injuries. 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 5: I don't want you to make yourself man. I think 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 5: it was a fifth over them. 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: I was traded from Dallas to Cleveland. Four five. 84 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: I just this is wow, man, wow, unless you feel like, 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 5: obviously with some other deals that you have going today, 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: that you'll be able to recoup that fourth is. 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: Just the receiver that you know. Mister Jones was saying, Man, 88 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: we liked them in the draft. You know that's the guy. 89 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 7: This is the guy Bingo Lsu cat right old miss 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 7: old miss old man ls. 91 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: You know, No, not Lsu, not somebody who is coming 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: out that tree. 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: No, not that tree, not that tree. 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: No, No, no, four fourth round pick. It's not like 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: the Cowboys having found some decent players. 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 2: In the fourth round. 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Yep their second fourth rounder that they used one time 98 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: on Dark Prescott workout. 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: Tony Polly was a fourth round pick. Shark choice was 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: a fourth round pick. Yeah, Mary Barber third fourth rounder. 101 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: Like the fourth round pick. These are guys Jones fourth 102 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: round pick. I mean, I'm just saying fourth rounders could 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: be pretty decent. Here, Dalton Schultz for a tight end 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: fourth round pick. Just going back here, looking back at 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: some other notable fourth round picks that the Cowboys have 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: had thirty years. 107 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Brother, it's uh, heck mon take over. 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 5: Well, I like, man, here we go with it. 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: Look Jonathan Mingo because he's a Cowboy. Now he's here. 110 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: He's here, He's here, all. 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: Right, And so we got to deal with with the 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: president on what we have to deal with in that 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: wide receiver room. You already knew, Jalen Brooks, Jalen Tobert, 114 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: you have to get some help in there. You obviously 115 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 5: would have wanted to get some help at the running 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: back position because you feel like that room hadn't been 117 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: figured out yet either. I'm still on the defensive tackle train. 118 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 5: I'm still there. I'm still on the train of expiring contracts. 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: There's so many other things that I thought would have 120 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 5: happened in lieu of you know, the way that the 121 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: season is going right now. 122 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: I just know I have a. 123 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 7: Look when you look at it, next year, these cap 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 7: hits are only gonna get bigger and bigger. Would think 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 7: that you need as many draft picks, early draft picks 126 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 7: that you can can muster, because you got to hit 127 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 7: on this draft next year. You gotta be able to 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 7: hit on these draft picks next year. These draft picks 129 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 7: have got to be able to come in here. And 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 7: I don't know, I want to say they want stars, 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 7: but they got to be able to contribute. 132 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 5: Like Nick even says, off the bus, Off the bus, 133 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: bro u. 134 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: It's people are social media people that I check you 135 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 4: on with people down in Carolina. 136 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: Man, I check it when I'm like, yo, what's up. 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: They're like a great job by the Panthers. Appreciate it. 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: They're saying, the Panthers fleeced the Cowboys. That's what it 139 00:06:53,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: looks like the Panthers. David Tepper sat down, Jerry Jones 140 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: got it. 141 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: But you saw the tape though. 142 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 7: That's for those that didn't see the Clinton Louis just 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 7: showed me the man what's around. 144 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah man, Yeah, yeah, man, you've seen this as a department, 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: you've seen this. We can go, we can we can 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: make up a lot of. 147 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 5: A lot of There have been a lot of questionable 148 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 5: draft picks, questionable trade There are a lot of things 149 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: that was out there prior to this deadline that you've 150 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: seen other I mean, look, I'm if you're looking at 151 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 5: the game last night, you're watching Kansas City and you're 152 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: watching what they have in d hot you're saying, like, man, 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: it's an embarrassment, uh, for them to be able to 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 5: get that much better with the receiver. How deadly are 155 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: they in the red zone? He was sitting out there. 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously if some of those other moves didn't 157 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 5: didn't do it for you, you know, but having somebody 158 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 5: that's proving, having somebody that you know, oh, is gonna 159 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: be a threat or at least can get it done. 160 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 5: And what have we been talking about red zone? Red zone? 161 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 5: How we indeficient we've been in the red zone. Having 162 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: another threat in the red zone besides ceedee Lamb. 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: I think it bodes well for this team. The player. 164 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: Versus the pick that's great is what has so many 165 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: people upset from the standpoint, whoever takes this, okay's gonna 166 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: be Carolina in twenty twenty five. They take this pick, 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: they will draft someone who has four years of control. 168 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: You've now traded. 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: For a player who's got two years left. 170 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: And let's just say, because the possibilities here, because it 171 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: came from up top, they have a new coach next year, 172 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: because Mike McCarthy and staff are up, who's to say 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: they want this player. 174 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: Somebody could come here, God unfit my system doesn't work. 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: For me, that goes your fourth or a team that 176 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: is wanting to sign Michael Parsons, which will not be cheap. 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: You would seemingly want to take draft picks who have 178 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: longer contracts and of lesser value. 179 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: You know, just you know, make. 180 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: It work, or I dare say this, that fourth round pick, 181 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: let's say you're drafting in the top fifteen, could be 182 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: pretty valuable. You could take that fourth round, you could 183 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: trade it down, you you could do a lot with 184 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: a four. 185 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: You could do a lot. 186 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 4: With the four, especially if you're drafting in the upper 187 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: half of the round. I feel like that pick had 188 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: more value than the player they're getting back. My opinion, 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: I'm not going to tell you, I watch film of 190 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: this guy, study him, tell anything. I'm just going by 191 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: what in terms of value. And now we're looking around 192 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: the league and we're seeing what players are going for 193 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: and nobody's out here giving up a good player for 194 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: a full but the Cowboys good player. This gentleman is 195 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: not even a good player yet by NFL standards? 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: Two years what is he showing? 197 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 7: He couldn't crack the lineup in Carolina? Bright on a 198 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 7: back Carolina. You can't who the number one receiver. 199 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: In Carolina was? Adam Thieln He's he's my age out there, 200 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: all right. 201 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 7: Deontay Johnson over there as well, in and out of 202 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 7: the lineup. You telling me you couldn't crack that lineup, 203 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 7: But you're gonna give a four for this man. I 204 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 7: just don't see how it pans out unless he comes 205 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 7: into Dallas and it just lights it up, which I 206 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know if I can see that happening. 207 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: Brother bro Brohimand that's the thing right now, I don't understand. 208 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: And it's it's challenge, man. So when my boy tweeted 209 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: out here. 210 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: Jonathan Mingo was not getting many opportunities here despite a 211 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: recent youth movement. Twelve catches on twenty six targets one 212 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one yards the twenty three The twenty 213 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: twenty three second round pick never scored a touchdown for Caroline. 214 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: So here's Carolina going, hey, we're going young. We're bad team, 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna go young. This guy was not apparently in 216 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 4: the plan. So and I do you never hear any 217 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: like locker room issues. 218 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about that, Like maybe it was a 219 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: bad locker room guy. 220 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: I don't know, chemistry, none of that. I mean, and 221 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: it hadn't come out yet. Yeah, it hadn't come out yet. 222 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it goes all the way back to the 223 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 5: trade lance trade from from last year for another fourth 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: and you saw how that paid off when you when 225 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: you face San Francisco, you actually probably got burned by 226 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: the fourth rounder that you maybe would have drafted in 227 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 5: that situation. 228 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: Isaac Garrinda Garndo from Louisville. 229 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: And that's to your point about how fourth round is 230 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 5: payoff for teams. Again, he's here, you know we can 231 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 5: we could question the move while we want on to. 232 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: He's a Dallas cowboy. 233 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 8: Uh. 234 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the wide receiving room 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: had to be improved. The guys that we had, Brooks 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 5: and Toober were not getting getting it done for you. Uh, 237 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: they're not causing any separation. And we bring in a 238 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 5: guy that's coming from Carolina that hadn't scored any touchdown, 239 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: that doesn't have a whole lot of production as well 240 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: a lesser known commodity. 241 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 9: Uh. 242 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 5: And if they're gonna play it up that he was 243 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: a guy that they had identified from the draft, they 244 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: you know, one, the one. 245 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: That they missed. 246 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: Now they got a chance to spend the block and 247 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 5: go and get them. They spend a fourth to go 248 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 5: do it. If the next coach comes in here and 249 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: understands that our has the you know, the need to 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 5: nail it on, you have to try and nail it 251 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 5: on every pick. You're not gonna have a fourth. Don't worry, abody. 252 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: We already took care of that for you. He's in here, 253 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: all right. His name is Jonathan Mingo. Fourth round, he's 254 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: gotta take off. Man, he's got it right right. You 255 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 5: gotta have to be in And that's the unknown, that's 256 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: the that's he didn't do it in Carolina, But maybe 257 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 5: they got different plans for him. I don't know, it's 258 00:12:54,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 5: it's look, it's mister fine, it's fuddling clabber guy dumb 259 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 5: found it because you know, giving up that capital, that 260 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 5: was the one thing that you you at least thought 261 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 5: that the cowboys would do, give up that prime capital. 262 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: Uh unless I mean you're seeing teams move for fives 263 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 5: and six six. 264 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: Is it's it's like, man, that's a that's a tough 265 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: ass and a seven. Caroline's got also sent a seven seven. 266 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: That's Mingo. Man here now here. 267 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: Now we can't not do it, We can't stop it. Yeah, 268 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: anybody else, anybody else? No, man, maybe it's a new start, 269 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: new day for Mingo. 270 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 5: Right now, right right now. That absolutely doesn't feel like it. 271 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 5: That doesn't feel like and that definitely if you were 272 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 5: going to make a move, if you were going to 273 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 5: do something, and again, like I throw it back to 274 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: you on this, the wire receivers that were out there, 275 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: you know that they wouldn't have gone back and gotten 276 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 5: the Mark Cooper. That wouldn't have happened, right, They wouldn't. 277 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: Have gotten money Wise Coopers, you know the money he's 278 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: making a lot of money. 279 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: You wouldn't win and got Davonte. You wouldn't have done 280 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 5: it for Davante, right, that wasn't gonna happen. The one 281 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 5: that bothered me was the Mike No Williams one. 282 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: Right now, what's he making? What's he making? How did 283 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: you just I said, one year with the Jets. I 284 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: believe what's the money with all of these guys? You 285 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: gott look at what the money? Now? 286 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: A guy taking in the second round like Mingo. Obviously 287 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 4: it wasn't a high cap charge. But ultimately I'm just 288 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: trying to understand, because we spoke about this yesterday. Everything 289 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: at this point, let's start looking toward twenty twenty five, 290 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: you know, and to give up a four that's valuable 291 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: when you one through four, especially this organization which has 292 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: had you go back to six. You see a lot 293 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: of good players drafting the fourth round, a lot of 294 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: good players, and considering your franchise quarterback, the highest paid 295 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: player in the league was your second of the fourth 296 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: round picks, Tony Polo, who you let go. And Tony 297 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: probably had a good game this weekend midd of the 298 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, a fourth round pick. You know, the Dallas 299 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: Cowboys have been able to take fours and do something 300 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: with them. They gave away last year's four in Trey Lance. 301 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: It was a gamble. 302 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: Trey Lance has not worked out. Maybe he shows something 303 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: in the next couple of weeks, but right now I 304 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: think we all say hasn't panned out. That didn't pan out. 305 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: So now you're giving up a four for a jag. 306 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: He's just a guy at this point in his career. 307 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: Yes, he is. 308 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: On a team that most people say is the worst 309 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: in the National Football League. Former GM Michael Lombardi on 310 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: his show All the Time says, this is one of 311 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: the worst constructed talent rosters he's ever seen. Wow, And 312 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: this is a man who worked with Bill Belichick and 313 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl, worked for the forty nine ers 314 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: with Bill Walsh. 315 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: And worked for Al Davis. 316 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: He says, this Panther team some of the worst collection 317 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: of talent ever and his son worked for the team, 318 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: So he knows the roster. 319 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: And you say, here's a four. 320 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: For this guy and a guy that couldn't crack the 321 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 7: raw stir one of the worst talented teams in the 322 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 7: National Football League. 323 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: I don't I don't work here. Gotta make it. 324 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't work here. I just I'm a reporter, 325 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: I observe. I asked my friends who cover the team 326 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: North Carolina, and by all means. 327 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: What a great job. 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Who's happy though? Who's that right? 388 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 8: Now? 389 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: Say? Who's real happy right now? 390 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 7: Who told Bert Turpin all them Cats is happy right 391 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 7: now because you ain't get a guy that can come 392 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 7: in here and threaten you for your job. 393 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: So you're looking at it like I can beat this 394 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: dude out. I'm still getting my reps. 395 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 7: I'm still getting and at that point, this is the 396 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 7: point we are right now in the season, Cats is 397 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 7: thinking like, man, I gotta make sure. 398 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: You drive. I ain't a threat. I got twelve catches 399 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: on the on on his career or on a year. 400 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: Wild question for you, do you think Mingo plays Sunday? Yeah? 401 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, I do, especially if if if CD for some 402 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 7: reason can't go, then I for sure see Mingo getting 403 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 7: out there. They gonna throw him a god ball something 404 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 7: where he just gotta, you know, go straight down the line, 405 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 7: see if you can use the athleticism. 406 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: See what you got out there. But he's gonna play. 407 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe return kicks something, but he's gonna go out 408 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 7: there and play. 409 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: They ain't gonna the ain't gonna give him nothing. 410 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 7: Crazy like this play you gotta run slam on this player, 411 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 7: you gotta block just but he's gonna. 412 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: Go out there and play. I think he got to. 413 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, if not for nothing, just but the unknown. 414 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 5: You really don't know a lot about him right shot. 415 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 5: You'll see what he likes, what he likes, what can 416 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: he do best? I'm with you, simple size at the 417 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: least I get, I gotta get a look at him, 418 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: you know, into the frying pan. 419 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: Baby, what if he go out there? It looks like 420 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: that getting clamped up. 421 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 7: Man, oh man, you know that people gonna point gonna 422 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 7: look at the all twenty two mingo. 423 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: I mean, he wasn't even getting any of that kids, 424 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: I mean in Carolina. So it sounds like he had 425 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: a lot of He didn't have a lot of production anyway. 426 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, so they talk about it being a developmental guy. 427 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: Heckman, can you think of the last developmental receiver the 428 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 4: Cowboys made into something? 429 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 13: Mm hmm. 430 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: To go back, Yeah, a guy that was a raw 431 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: just a raw dude that we brought in and we 432 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: developed him in to a receiver. 433 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: No, I can't think of what man that has success. 434 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last guy I can think of developmental is 435 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: Laurent Robinson. He took off too, Off the top of 436 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: my head, like, the last guy I can think about 437 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: is Laarron Robinson, and he took off that you played 438 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: with him so so so since then. 439 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: Huh got his name, he will refreshed my memory. 440 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 5: He got paid Jacksons, Chris ban Can you think of 441 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: what I mean the guy that went to Miami? 442 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: Who was the guy he was here, Cedric Wilson from 443 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 4: Boise State. You would consider him a developmental guy. I 444 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: thought he was kind of like polished, go sixth, seventh round, 445 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 4: like you're trying to develop him and hope that he 446 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: becomes something. 447 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 5: But that la, I mean, that's nah, I seen. I mean, 448 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: he's gonna get plenty of opportunity. Let's go with that 449 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: for John John John, for Mississippi. 450 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 4: I just make if he goes out there, it just 451 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: makes one play, sixth round pick in twenty eighteen. 452 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 7: You're gonna be all right if he makes one play. 453 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: Now we go out there, you know, clamped up. You know, 454 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 7: cats are gonna be looking. 455 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: Like I mean, like you said, And I think what 456 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 5: you bring up about Jailing tober and Jaylor Brooks is 457 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 5: kind of a trip because these guys not being pushed. 458 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: It's probably the last thing you wanted. You wanted that room. 459 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: You wanted those guys to be motivated because they need 460 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: to be And that's and. 461 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 7: That's one thing that I I'd have to say I 462 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: had noticed, you know, these past couple of years. Cats, 463 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 7: It's like they're not afraid if I get burnt out here, 464 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 7: if I'm not making plays, I'm still having my gig. 465 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. But you know, the mentality 466 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 7: is a little different. Cause when I was an don 467 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 7: drafted guy, I figured if I missed one tackle, shit 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 7: you out here we go, man. But they brought guys 469 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 7: in each and every year to take my spot. I 470 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 7: mean from the time I started or the time I 471 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 7: was going. Each and every year, they was like all 472 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 7: we got replaces due with somebody. 473 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: I just wasn't having it. So I don't know, man, 474 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: I told these guys have you know they're gonna be. 475 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 5: But if you guy like Ryan floor Nor that they 476 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: they've talked about and trying to get him. 477 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: It's curtain twenty twenty four try before that, the last lawn, 478 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: the last wide receiver. They kind of used a second 479 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: you know, a third day pick on the try and develop. 480 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: Was your man, Simmy Fijoko? 481 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: What he was so special? Team's got for real though 482 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: he bought it. 483 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: Simmy's there and uh Man just going back looking at 484 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: the draft man, uh Devin Street twenty fourteen. There was 485 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: a developmental guy out of Petipate. 486 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Fifth raft was with him here, Noah Brown twenty seventeen. 487 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: But he's seventh Brown Ohio State. 488 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: And I guess that's the only reason why I didn't 489 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 5: say nor because he's out of Ohio State. He was 490 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 5: already like the top one hundred ESPN wide receiver. He 491 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 5: wasn't a bad football, wasn't a bad football. 492 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: Was the only reason why I didn't say Noel Brown. Okay, 493 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: so over that's the development that you know. 494 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's true. That that's two guys. So 495 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 5: we're talking two guys. Chris got somebody else? Who else 496 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: you got? 497 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Chris? 498 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 6: Well, now I'm just going through. I'm doing the same 499 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 6: thing that I knew. 500 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: He's doing, just looking right here at the draft guy. 501 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: So so, I mean it is so ultimately it brings the. 502 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: Thing about Gallup because he was out of Colorado State. 503 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: But he was he was like he was a third. 504 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: He was a third. He was all he was. 505 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: He was a finalist and the Bolotnico Off Awards, and 506 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: this was a good football player. 507 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: He ran a slow forty times. That's what hurt him. Yeah, 508 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: and I talked to him about he said, man, I 509 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: ran a slow forty time that that hurt me. So yeah. 510 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: Bottom line is this is a this is a they're 511 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: they're taking a shot, and it's it's a. 512 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: Big shot and big chance. And and that's if we're 513 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: talking a sixth round pick. This is not a conversation 514 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: and just watch it, you know, but a fourth rounder, 515 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 4: knowing what this club has done with fourth rounders in 516 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: the past and hit on fourth rounders, that they've turned 517 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: fourth rounders into Pro Bowl players, I don't know right now, 518 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: we would go down and and you know, I think 519 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: that none of us expect this gentleman to make the 520 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl right now, because right now. 521 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: Can you get on the field, that's the thing. Can 522 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: you be one of the top three receivers. Would you 523 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: feel better if they're able to go out and recoup 524 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: the pick in some way? 525 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: And Michel Parson, no, no, no, no, talking a little 526 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: bit here, you can't recoup that one way. Hell, any 527 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: conversation that starts with him, you talking ones, and that's 528 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: support ones. Yeah, you go, this is gonna be a 529 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: layer way for a minute. We own, y'all, it's gonna 530 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: be one of the crazy ones like Ricky Williams. Remember 531 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 5: that Ricky Ricky with the same pay for this? Oh 532 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 5: this is that Ricky wiggims pick. You're gonna be saying 533 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 5: that for years trade from us. Hey, no way, you're not. 534 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 5: If it ain't nailed down, it's for sale. 535 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: Is that what we going tow it? Come on, let's 536 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: have the conversation. I just don't know what. I don't know, 537 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: an I don't know. I'll tell you what. 538 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: Last night, I'm sitting there watching you guys are watching 539 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 5: the Chiefs in the Tampa Bay game, and we know 540 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: shaking Bay that have any talent, no receivers whatsoever. 541 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: And then at the end of it. 542 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 5: Like obviously going up against Patrick Mahomes, everybody's, oh my god, 543 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: everything he does is so great. But Tampa Bay depleted 544 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 5: of not a lot of stars. I mean Vita by 545 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 5: on defense, but it was something about the way that 546 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: they competed, try. 547 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: To fight in the competitive portion of the game. He 548 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: saw a fight. I'm trying to figure out who these 549 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: guys are. I mean, I know who Vita A is. 550 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 5: I know who and I've never ever ever said Baker 551 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: Mayfield was better than Dak Prescott ever in my life. 552 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: I've never said that. 553 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 5: But his ability to raise everybody up in those moments 554 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: to me, especially on that last drive, like you look 555 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: at it. 556 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 7: He had in the first half, he had two completions 557 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 7: to wide receivers and I believe two of them was 558 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 7: the Sterling Sharp and not Sterling Shark. 559 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherd is somebody else. I mean he was. 560 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 7: He was out when he had to scrabble. He had 561 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 7: to scrabble dumping passes off here and there. Now, I'll 562 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 7: also say that play calling was elite. 563 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: Like what you see it was. 564 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: They put some guys in some pickles out there. And 565 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 4: that's a new new play caller because last year's play college. 566 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: The head coach at Carolina, Todd Bowles, is a good 567 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: football coach. An another guy who was down here with 568 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: Bill Parcels Off that Parcels Tree. 569 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: He's a good football coach. 570 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 4: I think Todd is going out, going out of his 571 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: way to show you the Jets don't know what they're 572 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: doing because he was there lost his job. A lot 573 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: of people you know that that the Jets are a 574 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: bad situation, which Todd Bowles's success is showing you that. 575 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: But this is the second Monday night football game they had. 576 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: They they potentially could have won that. They they got 577 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: on the plane, went home and just said, man, we 578 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: didn't do our part to finish it. But overall, I 579 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: understand what you're saying. You're losing people. 580 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: Todd Bow had them ready to go. 581 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: He's still a very good elite play play caller on defense, 582 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: understands what to do. Yeah, yeah, you would like to 583 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: see that versus what you're seeing here on Sundays right now. 584 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: Brian Flores in Minnesota. The higher that they bring in 585 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 5: the team, this is a team. I think before the season, 586 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 5: nobody predicted Minnesota to be good at all. 587 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: And when the quarterback JJ McCarthy went down, you thought, Okay, 588 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: Sam Donald, really, what are you gonna do? 589 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: Kevin o Collegs a good football coach. 590 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 5: But even with that, I mean, personnel wise, I don't 591 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 5: know anybody on that defense. I can't call the name 592 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 5: to say you know too. 593 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 7: Of the oldest the two oldest players in the league 594 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 7: I think start on their defense, Harrison Smith and Gilly 595 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: Come on. 596 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: So Florence Gilly g played a little bit too. 597 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: Come on, guys, so, and that's what I have a 598 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: problem with. That's what I have a problem with when 599 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: we say, all right, well this team is depleted. I 600 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: understand the entries, we lost all of the defensive end 601 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: room going all right, but you just don't feel like, 602 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 5: especially when you look at other teams in the league. 603 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 5: I'm just talking about the game that we were watching 604 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: last night. He doesn't have his wide receivers. The defense 605 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: is full of guys that you don't even know who 606 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 5: the hell they are. But yet there's that competitive part 607 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 5: of the fight that they displayed and we haven't seen that. 608 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 5: It's not something that's showing up on film. 609 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 8: And when you. 610 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: Culture is by culture is buy in. It's all of 611 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: that culture, discipline, culture and climate. The climate is oh, okay, 612 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: you're hurt, let's go my turn, let's do this. 613 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. I'm ready to make my country. 614 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: That climate is there that we're not going to as 615 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: Tomlin talks about, the standard is the standard. 616 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: So the climate is there, and then the culture is okay, Church, 617 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: you down, who's back? They gotta go? Heck you're not ready? 618 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: Be ready? Church. 619 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: That comes into what you saw yesterday with the Jets. 620 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: I mean the Jets with the Buccaneers, and when Todd 621 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: Bowse with the Jets, they didn't have that. He got 622 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: that there at Tampa Bay with Bruce Arians and what 623 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 4: they had going on there. And right now you're questioning 624 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 4: what's going on here because they've lost so much depth. 625 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: And I go back to the whole point about Mike Zimmer. 626 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: You brought in Mike Zimmer to run a defense, but 627 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: you didn't have the pieces that Mike Zimmer was successful 628 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: in running his defense with. 629 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 5: That's hard, that's hard, But you've been around coaches long 630 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: enough to know that Mike knew that when he took 631 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: the job. He knew that he didn't have the guys 632 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: when he walked in the door. 633 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: I'll have an off the air conversation. 634 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, but okay, we gotta have him. I mean, 635 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: I know what you're saying, but but but I'll have 636 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: all that. He's not he's not shocked right now with 637 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: the with the output. 638 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you see him standing at the podium and 639 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: he's talking there, asking him question about the guy, saying, 640 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: we're just we're just taking us a while to understand 641 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 5: the scheme. 642 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: Mike. That's why come in here. 643 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 5: And ask you, is that different, something different about cover 644 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 5: two A man that we don't know I hadn't seen before. 645 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: It's the same coverage the front end. You could play 646 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 5: it one way back in it's just coverage, my man. 647 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's true. I mean that to me, what's 648 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: happening defensively is you lost a lot of time. 649 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 7: I get all that, but when your star players that 650 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 7: are supposed to step up in those situations aren't playing 651 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 7: to the level that this defense needs them to play, 652 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 7: I mean, it's all gonna go downhill from there. 653 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 5: Is there anything about a defensive scheme, Barry, please, I'm 654 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 5: not anything about a defensive scheme, whether it's a three 655 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 5: four or four three that would make your one technique. 656 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: Like not responsible for his. 657 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: Gap, anything that would say I can't if I don't 658 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 5: secure this area to this area that I'm gonna leave 659 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 5: a gigantic hole behind me if I get pushed out 660 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: in the wash. Because that's happening over and over again. 661 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: And I can take that from Trayvon, but the guys 662 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: up front, it has to be crystal clear. If I'm 663 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 5: not asking you to be a two gap scheme guy 664 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 5: to hold up to guys or at least not get reached. 665 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: What about the scheme is so difficult that you don't 666 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: understand that I can't get pushed out this way? 667 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 7: He would think that that these guys will be prepared 668 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 7: to understand that and be able to go out there 669 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 7: and execute. But as we see time and time, week 670 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 7: and week, these guys aren't executing their responsibilities. 671 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: Is there anything about the responsibility at defensive end? If 672 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: you're in a three four defense that says, all right, 673 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 5: I have to capture the edge this way versus being 674 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 5: in a four to three I. 675 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 7: Mean, right, Okay, if your responsibility is making short people 676 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 7: don't go on on the house, you gotta be able 677 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 7: to do that, and we just haven't seen it. 678 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's take a break here. 679 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: A very interesting players line today is to trade deadline 680 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: and come and the Cowboys. If yeah, yes, Trey Lance 681 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: is still here. He may be playing, but we'll talk 682 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: about that. 683 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: They top. 684 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimy the offensive corner, was asked about Trey Lance yesterday. 685 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: I'll give you the information I got when I was 686 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 4: at the press conference. Heck Maharrison, Barry Church on New 687 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: we scrugged players. 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Don't miss out on the holiday magic. 736 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 5: All right, thank you, heck Maherson. 737 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 4: As I was driving in, I saw where they were 738 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 4: getting ready to build a Christmas tree over there with 739 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 4: the Tostedos Plaza and get ready for that experience. My 740 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: kid already said, hey, I want to go see that again. 741 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: So they do a very good show and it's free. 742 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 4: I just tell people get here early, get here a 743 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 4: parking for it. Hey, when you y'all put you on 744 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: trees up. 745 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 7: For me, I'm after Thanksgiving guy, Christmas, you got my 746 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 7: Christmas are getting put up to day. 747 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: My man, you got up already. No I don't. But 748 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm just he's smart though. That is what I'm saying. 749 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: If you got your lights up, hey, by the time, 750 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 4: by the time Christmas is up, with New Year's over 751 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: where you gotta take them, everybody tired of them. 752 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 2: If you the earlier you start, the better, that's the better. 753 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: I put my tree up November first. 754 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 9: You and Jerry got. 755 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 4: Add it up, hey by January first that they had 756 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: to go. 757 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: Everybody was tired of the Christmas tree, the living road tree, 758 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: or a fake tree. So I have two. I got 759 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 2: the is a stand back tree. 760 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, got the stand back lost a bit, so I 761 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 5: had to put the tree up, and he got me 762 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 5: an oversized tree. 763 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: So it was stupid big. I'm a fake tree. You 764 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: a fake tree guy. I can't do the pane. I 765 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: can't do that. All that cleaning up now, I'm a 766 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: fake fake tree. You not cleaning it. I got called out. 767 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 4: I'm gona put an I'm gonna put a little sweeps pan. 768 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: Not y'all got one of those things that go around 769 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: the house. Probably, but the. 770 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 4: Person who comes in to clean the house, ye does 771 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: there's a good job. Berries not cleaning his house, Berry 772 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 4: not cutting no grass. 773 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: I definitely not cut no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly know. 774 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 4: When you signed the shod card back certain things in 775 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: life you're telling yourself, I'm. 776 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: Not doing anything, man, These are these dreams are made up. 777 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 4: I remember, I can help you out growing up. I'm like, man, 778 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 4: one day I'm gonna make enough money. I'm not gonna 779 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: buy a lawn more. I'm just gonna call out write 780 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 4: a check. 781 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: It was one of my drinks. I signed it like 782 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: my dad didn't care about that. Come in here, nobody cared. 783 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: Cared's some advil whatever. Take it clear. 784 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 4: So so Barry Church is not doing that, and it 785 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 4: ain't nothing wrong with that. Maybe those are those are 786 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 4: life goals like there you cut that check, you're sitting 787 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: that you travel say, never cut your grass again. 788 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: You better believe that trouble. 789 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, lake boatles either the boat probably somewhere right now. 790 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 2: Shot to make me. You got all send shot Christmas card. 791 00:39:54,200 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 4: Jeremy partner, Rock Rock whatever whatever Shot celebrate during the holiday. 792 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 4: You all need to send him a card. 793 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 5: Every It's from all of them, right shot celebrating Kwans 794 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 5: all the brothers. 795 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: He paid everybody in the season. Greeting is a shot 796 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: all through everybody. Thank you, thanks for thanks for that 797 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: back guy. Sorry we didn't win enough, but heyn't get 798 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: up a little bit. But you know that's all right. 799 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 2: That's all right, man. All the cats got paid a 800 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: lot of paid shot boy men. How many checks does 801 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 2: he pay for people that don't work there anymore? 802 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: Pretty dead salary cap man shot and paid out through 803 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 4: the years. Anybody done more than him? Man gems going 804 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 4: right to run a check. Some cats will won't he will. 805 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: I give him that. Man's not happening. 806 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 5: But the man is trying to shotguns to claim the 807 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 5: fame is amazing. Talk about rich man, that is right. Yeah, 808 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 5: he passed that bag out, but he got. 809 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: Took it. He got shot, went out there and took it. Man, 810 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: did you meet him much? 811 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 7: He used to do the little Christmas party on this 812 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 7: big old boat out there and it was pretty dope. 813 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 2: Man. Pretty cool dude and his son's dud. They are cool. 814 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 7: Now. 815 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 2: How would you compare him to Jerry? 816 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 7: Very similar when you talk about the relationships with their players. 817 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 7: Like to me, whenever you saw Jerry, he would come 818 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 7: down to the locker room. 819 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: Nicest guy. 820 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 7: We talked to everybody from Tony Romo all the way 821 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 7: down to me coming in. It's undrafted, and he knew 822 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 7: everybody's name. 823 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 5: He wasn't like he was like, oh yeah, you great 824 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 5: to meet your son, and I'm talking like a church 825 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 5: what's going on, the same thing with man. 826 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 7: He knew everybody from the top all the way to 827 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 7: the bottle. So those are really good play like ownership man. 828 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 7: Some good cats man, because some olders. You can go 829 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 7: out there and he'd be like, man, who's that Guymber 830 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 7: twenty five? 831 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: Come here real quick? Not here Orange Jacksonville man. So 832 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 2: ye of people. 833 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 8: Man. 834 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 4: Maybe one day they can reward that man with a 835 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 4: little something so so he might get you know, you 836 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 4: might never know. 837 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 7: The soccer team does pretty well. I believes a Crystal 838 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 7: Palace was something. I forget what the team was, but 839 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 7: I think they do pretty decent. 840 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: Somebody like that. 841 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 4: He's got one of those Premier League. That's that's that's 842 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 4: big money right there. That's what I mean that See, 843 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 4: I wonder which one's worth more? E p l T 844 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 4: and the English Premier League. 845 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, the Premier League for sure, for sure, especially because 846 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 7: Jacksonville small. 847 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: How small of a market it is. I gotta gotta 848 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: have a SoC over there else he owns. 849 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 7: Full of Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's more than jack That's 850 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 7: why I write the check. I don't know enough about them. 851 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 7: I know I know man, you man, City, Man, City, Chelsea. 852 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: I went to a game what I went to a 853 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: game when I was overseas one time. 854 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 7: I was Barcelona versus I think you pronounced some because 855 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 7: that they christ and it's man, it's unreal. 856 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: Next atmosphere, un They're all saying along. 857 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 7: I didn't know what they was, but I was rocket 858 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 7: with them, back and forth, swag sir, nuts man, it was. 859 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 2: It was nuts. Man. 860 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 4: The atmosphere over there is crazy. It's just like college football, 861 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 4: but better in their own way. The way they go 862 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 4: by except was crazy, singing like Texas A and M 863 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 4: all the time. 864 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 2: Just shut there winning, man, it's lit. That's lit. Guy. 865 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 7: Get over there, man, you go and got a soccer game. 866 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 7: It's unreal. Match my bad, I can match. 867 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 4: I tried to go to Portugal, but they had played. 868 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 4: They had finished like two weeks earlier. By the time 869 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 4: I got there. The season it ended, but I was 870 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: trying to catch a game over in Portugal Spain when 871 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 4: I went. But just it just it just it was Madrid. 872 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 4: It was a Madrid. In fact, we were in Madrid 873 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 4: and the season in like two weeks before we got 874 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: over the beautiful city. Man, wish I could have just 875 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 4: don't need to beef. 876 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't need to be It'll cook it, man, it'll 877 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 2: cook it. Beautiful man. It was dad, it was over 878 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: the matter fact, that's pretty cool. 879 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 6: I think the Jaguars are worth more, by the way, 880 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 6: if anybody's questioning. 881 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 4: It, yeah, that's because because that's not one of the 882 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 4: when you talking about those EPL teams, that's not. 883 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 5: One of the We need the numbers, Chris Sportico. 884 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 6: Last year valued the number one Premier League team was 885 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 6: Manchester United at five point nine billion. Uh Fulham was 886 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 6: at two hundred and sixty million. 887 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: Really, that's what it says. I'm just reporting the fact. 888 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's not as that was January of last year, 889 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 6: so I don't know how much it would go up 890 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 6: in a year. 891 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: But was worth billy? Are they still in the Are 892 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: they still the Premier League level? Because you you can 893 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: get the motive, the motive send you down there. You 894 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: ain't good enough on that Sunbelt conference real quick over 895 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: not the whack. 896 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 6: They are still in the premiere, Okay, I believe the 897 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 6: bottom four gets relegated. 898 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: They call it. Yeah, he relegated. Hey, thank thanks for 899 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 2: being here. Guys, appreciate you. I mention that in the NFL, 900 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: no really really don't go down to the XFL. Really 901 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: don't boys. 902 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 6: Get put down, pray team up. 903 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean it's some rough times, man. It's like, yeah, 904 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: that would be it. You not on the run the 905 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 2: Cowboys have been on the past few thirty years. Relegated. Good, 906 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: that'll be good. That'll be good. 907 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 4: Okay, So Jonathan Mingo, Yeah, well know tomorrow a little 908 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 4: bit more about uh what to expect. 909 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 2: Maybe some trade lass packages. 910 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, schoon maker, I asked, I asked 911 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 4: Schottenheimer body. He said, he's got to play more. So 912 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 4: he's got to play more, and he's just got to 913 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 4: get more confidence. As far as Trey Lance just said, 914 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 4: they're looking for him to take advantage of the opportunity. 915 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 4: McCarthy's like, hey, he's just got to play, he's got 916 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 4: to play. And Jerry spoke about you know, Cooper Rush 917 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 4: and Trey Lance and I just believe that if the 918 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: season continues to go the way it is, you're going 919 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 4: to see Trey Lance. Because you need to see something 920 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 4: from Trey Lance. You have to do the due diligence 921 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 4: to try to figure out what you're gonna have going 922 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 4: forward in twenty twenty five. 923 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: What does he have? I think with Cooper Rush, we 924 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: know what Cooper Rush is. 925 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 7: What do you what if Cooper goes out there and 926 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 7: gets you next four games, gets your two victories. 927 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 2: He's not a magician series quarterback. You would take him 928 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 2: out after that. He's Okay, that's a tough sell. That's 929 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 2: a tough sell. 930 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 4: Philadelphia, Houston, Washington and the Giants right now he can. 931 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 7: Get he can get Houston, he could get they ain't 932 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 7: an no overseas. He could get Houston, Houston is he 933 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 7: could get Houston, they have no weapons offense. 934 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 5: And then after that you got what giants at the 935 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 5: commanders at the commanders, the giants on thanks. 936 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: You win win. That'd be a tough sound man. Okay, 937 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 2: so you want to wait till the December run. I'd 938 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: have to. 939 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 7: I mean for us out here, Yeah, you want to 940 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 7: see what lads guts for the future. But those guys 941 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 7: in the locker room. You go, you're gonna tell them. 942 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 2: It's trades her cast. But also it's done for we 943 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 2: just throwing it. That'd be a tough sound, all right, 944 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 2: a tough sound, all right, gentlemen, Let's do it. 945 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 4: Let's do heck Maherrison, Barry Church and New Schruss for Chrispine, 946 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 4: Jazz Josh and everybody here. 947 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: Uh, get out and vote and if you already voted, 948 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 2: way to go later. 949 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 950 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.